Last night was the end of our beloved The Newsroom, the great HBO drama which explored the lives of news writers who never have to write news. The series finale happened to come on the same day that Aaron Sorkin wrote an op-ed about the media’s collusion with criminal hackers in The Sony Hack, which Sorkin does not like because it is not newsworthy. In our final act of fearless journalism about journalism-based cable dramas, we discuss Sorkin’s ethics, his op-ed, and the failures of The Newsroom.
Natasha Vargas-Cooper: Let’s first begin with the real life journalism issue Aaron Sorkin directly addressed on Sunday after his emails — in all their snippy glory — were revealed in The Sony Hack. Sorkin said he is shocked, SHOCKED that journalists would use data unearthed by criminal hackers. Micah, do you consider yourself a hacker or a criminal or both? Which do you list on your J-date profile?
Micah Lee: I am a hacker. I try not to break laws. I don’t have a J-date profile for privacy reasons.
Peter Maass: Daniel Ellsberg was a hacker/criminal, according to the government at the time. Sources often have mixed motives, not all angels, some are disgruntled. That’s fine by me. It’s the leak not the source that’s most important. The amazing ICIJ series on banking and tax avoidance were based on leak/s of confidential corporate documents. If someone leaked Exxon’s emails, or Halliburton’s, we shouldn’t take a look?
NVC: What if those emails were just squabbling between an executive and his wife? Just playing Sorkin here, *polishes Oscar* *flips flirty blonde hair.*
PM: But the Sony emails are more than that, right? Possibly racist chatter between senior executives? Gender imbalance in pay?
ML: Weren’t something like 50% of the breaking news stories in 2011 based on the documents Chelsea Manning leaked to Wikileaks?
PM: Sony is a powerful corporation, and like other corporations, we can’t FOIA them. We live in an era when corporations seem to have more power than ever, and are less transparent than ever. The leak of Sony emails has already turned up interesting stuff, there could be more. Let’s not condemn a leak before we know what it’s revealed, okay?
ML: The Citizen’s Commission to Investigate the FBI broke into an FBI field office in 1971 and (illegally) stole a bunch of documents. It ultimately led to exposing COINTELPRO and the formation of the Church Committee.
NVC: But there’s a privacy issue, says Sorkin. If we indulge in reading the Rudin and Pascals emails then we are violating their privacy and journalists are violating their privacy.
PM: When senior corporate executives chat about the president of the United States in what many people regard as derogatory ways, I think there’s a good argument for a public interest in that. Though I also realize that might be debated and disagreed with.
Margot Williams: The hackers should have leaked it to a RESPONSIBLE journalism organization like XXXX.
PM: And they are major donors to Obama/Democrats (Pascal, right?). So they are not just studio execs–they have their financial thumbs on the political system.
ML: Breaking into Sony and stealing massive amounts of data is definitely criminal. And making threats against peoples’ families is criminal. But now that the hackers have published all of the information online (read: they’ve already published ALL of the information) then it doesn’t make any sense for journalists not to dig through it and find stories in it.
NVC: Micah, can you tell us a little bit about where the archive exists? Like, um, is it on Dropbox?
MW: It’s in Memphis. It’s a stand-in for wherever you are right now
ML: The best I can tell, it’s mostly in a scattered series of bit torrent swarms, and there’s a sort of back-and-forth between people posting to Github, Pastebin, and Reddit with links to the torrents, plus uploading torrents to file-sharing sites, and those getting taken down almost as fast. But if you can find the torrents, you can ultimately download the data.
PM: What can you tell us about the level of sleuthiness required to actually get the docs? Easy for you, hard for others, or easy for all of us? 10 minutes of effort?
ML: Oh it’s far more than 10 minutes of effort. It’s probably more like 20 minutes of Googling, and understanding how to use bit torrent, and being able to extract encrypted RAR files.
PM: I feel like Maggie on the airplane. Please lean over and tell us more!
ML: But there’s a LOT of data, and it’s spread across a LOT of bit torrent swarms, so it takes quite a bit of time and it’s quite disorganized.
NVC: I feel like the overarching theme of The Newsroom and of Sorkin’s work in general is a defense of elite institutions. That are filled with smart and noble people or, if you will, A Few Good Men.
MW: Whose religion is decency.
NVC: Right, I watched “A Few Good Men” on the plane ride over here because if I don’t consume Sorkin every two hours I get dizzy and faint. Anywhoodle: it was the same play of ideas, that there is a code or an ethic that people in institutions live by. Be they lawyers or Marines or judges or journalists. But it feels as though Sorkin has never met a Marine or even a real working journalist but he likes their ideals. And that becomes the lens through which he judges everyone’s character, by how well they live up to the code or how they bastardize it.
PM: Natasha, I didn’t know until you mentioned it–one of the more well-known lines of movie-dom in the past quarter century, “You can’t handle the truth,” was written by Sorkin. Is this what he’s trying to tell us about journalism, too–that we can’t take the truth that everything is shit except what’s produced in a cable news show by men and women in bow ties?
NVC: Here’s Sorkin’s hot take on journalism from 2011: “The upside of web-based journalism is that everybody gets a chance. The downside is that everybody gets a chance. I can’t really get on board with the demonization of credentials with phrases like ‘the media elite’ (just like doctors, airline pilots and presidents, I prefer reporters and commentators to be elite) and the glamorization of inexperience with phrases like ‘citizen journalist.”
ML: Will told three-years-ago Neal: “It’s a website, it doesn’t have integrity.” But then Neal comes back and is all like “I’m taking down our website so I can make one that has integrity!”
MW: Neal, the only person of color and he doesn’t get a girlfriend.
PM: The problem isn’t that Sorkin doesn’t like journalists. It’s that he doesn’t understand journalism.
MW: No one is ever WRITING on his show.
PM: Tables turned, I don’t think Sorkin can handle the truth of how problematic old-school journalism was (I know, I was part of it), and how strong much of digital journalism is (though yes, there are the Carnivores we have to deal with today).
NVC: Tell us more, Peter, about the Long Ago.
PM: First I need to put another log on the fire, children.
NVC: *hands out ration cards for flour*
MW: Back when we had to use a PICA POLE and the union typesetters wouldn’t allow us to touch the pages.
PM: There was a book written by a Newsweek writer in the 1980s that was called “Anybody Here Been Raped and Speaks English?” Offensive title and all, but it got at a huge problem of how the world was covered–by a lot of guys who didn’t speak the language of the country they were in, and had perhaps just landed there. That was troubling. And they all stayed at the same hotel, got together for dinner at night. Don’t get me wrong, lots of great and brave journalism was committed, but lots of shallow stuff with insufficient divergence of viewpoints presented to the reading or viewing public, too.
MW: The NYT trick of flying reporters to touch ground at an airport so they could insert a dateline.
PM: True story: when I was a twenty-something stringer for the Times in Brussels, I raced 90 minutes out of town with Judy Miller (Paris correspondent at the time) so she could get a dateline she needed. We spent about 15 minutes there, she had to catch a plane.
MW: And Bob Woodward — did he know all this time about the secret prisons & torture because his friends in the White House told him? My friend and I ex-Post were wondering last night.
ML: I don’t think Sorkin got the nerd thing down very accurately, either. Like, I find it very unlikely that Bree, the silly social media editor, sits there brainstorming and dictating about overrated movies for publishing on their integrity-less blog. And the Matrix is certainly not overrated.
NVC: More from Sorkin on what he reads and believes: “When I read the Times or the Wall Street Journal, I know those reporters had to have cleared a very high bar to get the jobs they have. When I read a blog piece from ‘BobsThoughts.com,’ Bob could be the most qualified guy in the world but I have no way of knowing that because all he had to do to get his job was set up a website–something my 10-year-old daughter has been doing for 3 years. When The Times or The Journal get it wrong they have a lot of people to answer to. When Bob gets it wrong there are no immediate consequences for Bob except his wrong information is in the water supply now so there are consequences for us.”
PM: Aaron Sorkin, I’d like to introduce you to Rolling Stone.
NVC: Was the Newsroom a success or a failure?
PM: Sorkin, when he gets it right, IS brilliant. He just needs an editor (very old school of me, but I think Sorkin would appreciate). As a TV writer, he’s like a blogger without an editor. He has so much power that noone can force him to not write a scene or character in a particular way (e.g. the rape storyline of last week).
MW: He showed what the consequences are for journalists exercising our First Amendment rights. And the strength of journalists’ and news organizations’ convictions about that.
ML: I think Sorkin gets a B- on the security stuff. I mean it was pretty far from reality, but he did give props to air gapped computers, and used terms like AES. Maybe a C+?
MW: Is he a constructionist or a constitutionalist? I always get confused, just a girl who doesn’t know how to use birth control or pregnancy tests technology.
PM: The problem with the series is that all the characters have ethics, they all have romances (except Neal), they all have speeches. They are all Sorkin. And this is where this series was similar to the West Wing–weren’t all those characters noble and brave and not sleazy? Sorkin needs to spend some quality time with Lena Dunham.
NVC: WE LOVE YOU LENAAAAAA!!!!
ML: I mean, I was thoroughly entertained for a lot of it, and got excited about the beginning of the season and the leak story, but then it all kind of went to shit
NVC: WE DIDN’T EVEN FIND OUT IF THEY PUBLISHED THE LEAKED STORY!!!!
ML: Her suicide was for nothing.
MW: Agree that it fell apart. The leak was meant to be arc of the season but they dropped it. Why?
NVC: People needed boyfriends, Margot.
PM: Yes, it fell apart about halfway through the season, which (not coincidentally?) is when Homeland started kicking ass. But I think this series can redeem itself, or Sorkin can redeem himself, by realizing his weaknesses and getting over them. The dude has a certain kind of rare writing talent but he’s got huge blind spots. I want Sorkin 2.0.
MW: I think Don is depressed and maybe suicidal.
PM: A moment of silence for the bowtie, please.
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“Gentlemen do not read each other’s mail.” Henry Stimson said. Gentlemen just drop nuclear bombs on cities full of civilians.
If there is a video or audio recording of this conversation, may be you should consider posting it. Should be an interesting watch/listen.
Hey, I am watching season 1 and Neal has a great looking girlfriend.
As labored and tedious commentary goes, this was labored and very tedious.
Let’s figure out something to say that sounds hip and informed, you know, snarkily cynical.
Write something of value, worth reading.
I just have to object to the idea of Sorkin promoting the fact that big institutions lives by a code. I think it’s actually the opposite that is explain in “A Few Good Men”, or at least that they might live by a code, but this code is not right. That is, for me, what underlines the dialogue in which “you can’t handle the truth”. Especially because afterwards Jessup goes on explaining that we need the military to defend us which apparently justifies what happened, but at the end, it’s not enough to justify it. And the two soldiers that followed the “code” of this institutions are still declared guilty. Because even though the code said it was the right thing to do, it was still ultimately wrong.
And that something you can find in a lot of Sorkin’s work.
“The upside of web-based journalism is that everybody gets a chance. The downside is that everybody gets a chance. I can’t really get on board with the demonization of credentials with phrases like ‘the media elite’ (just like doctors, airline pilots and presidents, I prefer reporters and commentators to be elite) and the glamorization of inexperience with phrases like ‘citizen journalist.”
This is not necessarily an elitist comment. It sounds to me that he is referencing the package of goodies (skills, experience, tools, language, work ethic, etc.) that a professional–as opposed to amateur–journalist or reporter or storyteller or whatever gets to carry around with them to do the “work” that they do. I put work in quotations because it seems to me that Sorkin, a professional storyteller, is ego-based, and considers himself a better storyteller than someone who is not being paid the big bucks for it. Sorkin’s focus on integrity and ideals can be considered the usual Hollywood lie about professionals having integrity, that those who get the big bucks are worth it, goddammit, look at this award, that has to mean something, doesn’t it? No: it doesn’t: money does not buy integrity: big bucks does not buy integrity: but we can think about it, and wonder, and enjoy the story anyway.
Sorkin wants you to buy butt-head journalism because its writers have been endorsed not necessarily by truth but by establishment venue approval. The standard shouldn’t be on acceptance by those, but rather, is a putative newsman’s report independently verifiable?
I like your approach on the topic. Your article is as interesting as your previous writings. Keep up the good work, thanks a lot.
The arrogance.
what is this shite?
Wait what? Are you saying The Newsroom is not a reality teevee show about a real NYC news organization? What the heck? Is Snowden a real guy or not dammit?!
Natasha’s comments are breathtaking.
You’d think this is a story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&v=bD61YFxUga4
Well, not the New York Times. Silence. Like Brezhnev era Soviet media, it doesn’t exist. One only need look up “Bundy” in the Search field on the top page of nytimes.com to discover not a trace, anywhere, in Newest, Oldest or Relevance–until Timothy Egan wrote a petulant opinion piece a full 6 days after the BLM’s climactic standown, and its release later in the afternoon of the cattle they didn’t destroy.
Most important States’ Rights story of the century. 1000 people staring down federal BLM the latter intent on stealing property of a rancher who’d (and whose family had) been paying grazing fees to Nevada for decades, and using land –and infrastructure–passed down through the family since the 1800s.
All over Drudge–top story for several days in a row. Even MSNBC, and CNN couldn’t ignore the import of the story.
The militarized BLM backs down–hours after Sen. Reid’s involvement is revealed as well as the existence of a Sept. 2012 New American article entitled _”Harry Reid Bolsters Son’s Interests in Chinese Solar Plant Deal”_.
“When senior corporate executives chat about the president of the United States…”
Oh no, not the prezident of the United States!
Love this. Gonna miss these recaps of Sorkin’s abomination. Hope you guys take another target very soon! This is real highlight of The Intercept. Most recaps are written by goobers. But it’s a whole different experience, a really great one, when smart writers like you gang up and let it rip! More please!
Totally. Frankly I’d like to see those focusing on national security and foreign policy write about Homeland.
Homeland has really lost me, esp with the propaganda and casual bigotry. Season 1 started off really well, but Season 2 onwards? Eugh. Would love to see some discussion/recaps on this. Would definitely watch Season 5 if I thought you guys would be covering it.
And yes, having smart, switched on and witty writers makes ALL the difference to these weekly recaps.
I *think* we will do a review of the series when the finale arrives!! We all watch very intently.
Please do! That would be excellent!
(Hope that means you’ll review it at end of this Season as opposed to when Homeland itself ends. Don’t know whether I can hold out that long!)
+1 for the word “goobers”
Off topic, apologies.
I just wanted to let someone know that there’s a story at CounterPunch that I do not seem able to load and maybe that is the case for others as well. The story is headlined “Snowden, Germany and the NSA” by BINOY KAMPMARK. I know I should probably tell Counterpunch, not Intercept, that but I just thought it would be easier to do that here.
It is very clear that he is “… morally treasonous and spectacularly dishonorable.”
I like the newsroom but it is so much love me, love me, love me I’m a liberal it is sickining
If neighborhood watch doesn’t know you I hope the cops take down your name, because love me love me love me I’m a liberal, phill oces and jello biafra said it before the west wing
“[after learning of the Doomsday Machine]
President Merkin Muffley: But this is absolute madness, Ambassador! Why should you *build* such a thing?
Ambassador de Sadesky: There were those of us who fought against it, but in the end we could not keep up with the expense involved in the arms race, the space race, and the peace race. At the same time our people grumbled for more nylons and washing machines. Our doomsday scheme cost us just a small fraction of what we had been spending on defense in a single year. The deciding factor was when we learned that your country was working along similar lines, and we were afraid of a doomsday gap.
President Merkin Muffley: This is preposterous. I’ve never approved of anything like that.
Ambassador de Sadesky: Our source was the New York Times.
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As Shane sez, I, too, will miss our little weekly chats. But I’m glad this POS show is over. Now regarding HOMELAND: we would certainly enjoy that discussion.
<3,
CA
Homeland was so bad then it got very good.
And then it got really bad again. Would love some discussion in recaps on that esp from Greenwald (in light of things he has said re propaganda etc re Zero Dark Thirty). Get him involved!
And Murtaza Hussein too!
And your point is what, exactly? You sound as though you’ve never read the Enquirer, the Tattler or the Daily Mail. C’mon Ethan! This is 2014! No one has ethics anymore! Look what the Congress just did with the “CRomnibus”. You gotta fight fire with fire, man! Live Free Or Die!!
Re: Captain America ~ 15 Dec 2014 at 9:09 pm
Well Captain, it would appear that someone understood my point and, rather than offer any sort of response, decided to delete my comment. It’s not that I have not ever actually read the tabloids you recommend, I just had hopes that THE//INTERCEPT might not become that which it portends to oppose. Indeed, it is 2014 Captain! But there are still many who incorporate ethics into the fabric of life, rather or not it is a road less travelled. Of course there is no doubt that “..what the Congress just did with the “CRomnibus” is a travesty; a blatant example of private advantage over public good. Thanks for sharing your slogans! Here’s one you may enjoy: If you don’t leave me alone, I’ll find someone who will!
Here is an excerpt from Aaron Sorkin’s editorial cited by hyperlink at the beginning of the topical article.
As Usual,
EA
If a major corporation — that is, one that pays lobbyists to write legislation — hires someone in Congress to insert their legislation into, say, an omnibus appropriations bill, isn’t that corporation then subject to FOIA?
Why not?
Foul should follow harm when they they undermine the common interest.
Hack them until they must encrypt birthday announcements; hack them until their hirelings squeal like lab rats; hack them until their eyeballs bleed and they dare not open an email again.
I agree 200%.
I just love you guys!!! I am going to miss our little talks.
NVC: They sent all the docs. to a very much older and female journalism prof at Columbia to do the leaking.
I loved that move as a very much older female poet.
Yes! But we never found out if she published the docs!
quote::Breaking into Sony and stealing massive amounts of data is definitely criminal.::quote
The data is still available on Sony’s computers. It was not stolen, it was copied. The Breaking in May have been illegal, but nothing was stolen. You have fallen into the same rhetorical trap as the MPAA and RIAA want us to fall into the lie that copying is theft.
No, it is not. It was wiped from the Sony computers by the same people who broke in.
“Don’t get me wrong, lots of great and brave journalism was committed, but lots of shallow stuff with insufficient divergence of viewpoints presented to the reading or viewing public, too.”
Were you one of those kids who discussed whether or not your parents knew about sex?
“Don’t get me wrong, lots of great and brave journalism was committed, but lots of shallow stuff with insufficient divergence of viewpoints presented to the reading or viewing public, too.”
Re: book, one of the hot books about the venerable Washington Press Corps was “Drunk before noon”, published in 1979 (now you can get ba used copy for a penny on Amazon.
I love The Intercept. Keep up the great work everyone. Thanks. :)
I love The Intercept. Keep up the great work everyone. Thanks. :)
“Well, I guess it’s just us now.”