Yesterday, the Egyptian regime announced it was prosecuting witnesses who say they saw a police officer murder an unarmed poet and activist during a demonstration, the latest in a long line of brutal human rights abuses that includes imprisoning journalists, prosecuting LGBT citizens, and mass executions of protesters. Last June, Human Rights Watch said that Egyptian “security forces have carried out mass arrests and torture that harken back to the darkest days of former President Hosni Mubarak’s rule.”
Today, the White House announced that during a telephone call with Egyptian despot Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, President Obama personally lifted the freeze on transferring weapons to the regime, and also affirmed that the $1.3 billion in military aid will continue unimpeded. Announced the White House:
President Obama spoke with Egyptian President Abdelfattah al-Sisi today regarding the U.S.-Egyptian military assistance relationship and regional developments, including in Libya and Yemen. President Obama informed President al-Sisi that he will lift executive holds that have been in place since October 2013 on the delivery of F-16 aircraft, Harpoon missiles, and M1A1 tank kits. The President also advised President al-Sisi that he will continue to request an annual $1.3 billion in military assistance for Egypt.
But for those who think the U.S. should not lavish vicious tyrants with arms and money, don’t worry! During the call, “President Obama also reiterated U.S. concerns about Egypt’s continued imprisonment of non-violent activists and mass trials,” and “encouraged increased respect for freedom of speech and assembly and emphasized that these issues remain a focus for the United States.” To read that is to feel the sincerity and potency of those presidential words.
The move comes as the U.S. is also heavily supporting the Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen, also involving some of the region’s worst tyrants (also known as: the U.S.’s closest allies). So the U.S., as usual, is standing shoulder to shoulder with some of the region’s most oppressive regimes, whose survival at least partially depends on the abundant U.S. largesse they receive, once again provoking that age-old mystery: Why do they hate us?
Obama’s move is as unsurprising as it is noxious, as American political elites — from Bill and Hillary Clinton to Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright — along with the Israeli Right have been heaping praise on Sisi the way they did for decades on Mubarak. (“I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family,” said Hillary Clinton in 2009. “So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States.”)
Who is more tragically propagandized: those who actually believe that U.S. foreign policy is motivated by a desire to spread freedom and democracy for women, gays, and human beings generally, or those who scoff with unbridled contempt whenever the suggestion is made with a straight face?
Photo: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images


I thought the Egyptian economy would crash and burn about 2 or three years ago. I have no idea what is holding the place together.
The 2016 elections are coming up. Might be nice to have a strategy. Is it too early to start planning protests?
Well, as frustrating as this all is – especially that first part sentence, “Yesterday, the Egyptian regime announced it was prosecuting witnesses who say they saw a police officer murder an unarmed poet and activist during a demonstration…”, which mentality never ceases to boggle my mind and make me feel like I live in The Snake Pit – it’s certainly no surprise. Some would see it the minute the Islamic Brotherhood was elected to office. Certainly no one could miss it the minute the army staged a coup. So much for the Arab Spring, voila, presto chango, now you see it, now you don’t, wasn’t it fun.
But there’s nothing new, certainly, other than that perhaps the lies have to flow more copiously given modern communication. Otherwise, it’s the same as when for the benefit of seven (I think it was) oil companies, the US caused the collapse of a democratically elected government in Iran, installed the Shah’s son as all powerful ruler, and built Savak for them, along with training in all the latest inhuman devices. I knew an Irish woman who had married an Iranian and thus lived there before, during, and after the revolution, and who had a friend who was a guest of Savak for a weekend once, before they deposited her on the front steps on a monday morning. That girl was fucked for good, you can be sure. For me, that was about as up close and personal as I’d want to get at all to such things. I’ve seen up close how a minute can change a dog’s life forever, I have no doubt of what a weekend in the hands of such people, that we train, can do.
I think the thing that even the most radical American thinker shies from thinking is that we are the bad guys and no reform on earth will mend us. We must collapse completely, like the Roman Empire turning into Italy, before the future can start. Maybe the next crowd will be better, maybe worse; maybe we’ll need to cycle through this shit another 500 times, who knows? One hopes human beings can ultimately do better, aside from the piecemeal gifts that each succeeding empire brings us. But now, right now, we ARE the Third Reich successors. The problem with the Nazis was not what they did, but that they didn’t dress it up very well (they did more than most of us realize, at the same time). The English and Californians invented their ideology, but then they went and embarrassed everyone with it. We forget that the main body of Germans fared quite well, extremely well, under the Nazi’s for ten years before war destroyed them. And somehow America has managed to expand the cushion so that people in the millions can think themselves politically educated and caring even as they support this abortion on the planet.
Well, God love middle easterners and north Africans. They’re pretty well fucked for the next couple of decades, minimally, while the west laughs all the way to the bank. I’m just sorry I won’t live long enough to see it all crumble, as horrific as that will be. It’s lose/lose all the way.
Yet again, another excellent article. Thank you, GG.
Many thanks to Glenn Greenwald and The Intercept and all others who make the daily effort to present the news for what it is, and not for what it’s pretending to be.
I was moved to tears by Obama’s stated concerns for the civil rights of the Egyptian People. What a great and benevolent man!
Here is another sad story. The US government news agency the BBG “Broadcasting Board of Governors” with its annual budget of 720 million dollars, is having difficulty countering RT “Russia Today” with its budget of 241 million US dollars.
The Americans are thinking of increasing the BBG’s “truth” budget to counter the “propaganda” coming from Russia’s RT. Things have gotten so bad, says John Kerry, that “Many think we’re the problem”.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-02/sanctions-strapped-russia-outguns-the-u-s-in-information-war
I was just looking up the BBG. I doubt if many Americans know it exists, do they? It’s stated goal includes: “deliver accurate news and information”
..American government news from BBG is ”accurate”, unlike Russia’s RT which, according to the head of the BBG, Obama appointed Andrew Lack, has “a point of view”:
“We are facing a number of challenges from entities like Russia Today which is out there pushing a point of view…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/us/broadcasting-board-of-governors-names-chief-executive.html
I’m coming to the conclusion that the American government, in creating its own propaganda, as strange as this may seem, isn’t helping the cause of real journalism:
“The Kremlin also deftly exploits the anti-American sentiment of many Western Europeans, by claiming, for example, that American mercenaries and consultants have been deployed in eastern Ukraine. Even today, there is still no evidence to back any of these allegations. But America’s credibility isn’t helped by the fact that Washington also disseminates its own anti-Russian propaganda.
Backed by the drumbeat of conservative Fox News, Republic Senator John McCain has been loudly calling on the US government to provide pro-Western forces with active aid, including weapons. Meanwhile, Forbes magazine has asked: “Is Putin a new Hitler?” In addition, Washington’s development agency, USAID, announced at the start of May it would provide $1.25 million in support to Ukrainian media organizations as they prepared for presidential elections. Washington has long provided support for a network of opposition groups who were active during the Orange Revolution and are now mobilizing against Moscow.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/russia-uses-state-television-to-sway-opinion-at-home-and-abroad-a-971971.html
Washington’s “human rights” imperialism exposed: With increasing brazenness, the United States functions as the spearhead of militarism and reaction all over the world.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/02/pers-a02.html
A distillation of every Omega Brownstain missive: ‘I like dead Muslims.’
Thus far Im blocked & locked out of everything & every single human being and social mediasite for the past years for nothing more than my comments on politics & crisis all over this World
I dont curse
I dont threaten
I dont take sides
I dont do ANYTHING ILLEGAL, just using my FREEDOM OF SPEECH &it is taken away from me EVERY SINGLE TIME
I guess I must be ‘hitting’ a nerve every time I speak-up…
They’ve crashed my first pc
They’ve locked me out of phones
They’ve hacked my pc
They’ve hacked my mail
They’ve hacked my SIM
Now they’ve locked me out of twitter
Im telling you Glenn, my truth is more dangerous to ALL selfproclaimed leaders than Snowden, Assange & Mannings combined
&No one is allowed to sea&/hear me…
So, what is it that scares USA (&UK,EU, VATICAN, ISRAEL, ETC) So much?
My abillity to END all conflicts on Earth, one by one, starting ME
But if I were to succeed, …
They will ALL HAVE FAILED for hundreds, if not thousants of years…
&THATS the FIRST&FOREMOST reason ‘they’ have been trying to shut me up & out
&They will keep on claiming to do so for ‘national security’ reasons…
But its NOT about ANY KIND OF SECURITY EXCEPT THEIR OWN PERSONAL SECURITY
And ALL OF YOU are simply just being played for a fool
As allways
Now how do we, citizens, protect ourselfs from THEM? THATS the REAL question here
Im a European citizen, being intimidated, stalked, sabotaged, hacked, bugged, shamed, named&blamed, fired, isolated &mentally&physicly tortured &finacially ruined by some american govts NSA for nothing more than my FREEDOM TO SPEAK THE TRUTH
I didnt vote for some American president!
I was born FREE
Jet Im being DICTATED & DOMINATED by some bullying dipshit American spies & some of their ally’s, because THEY FEAR being exposed as liars, cheats, thieves, murderers &failures to solve the crisis THEY HAVE CAUSED
So ‘mr Ed’ was RIGHT when he called Europe USAs vassals
Well, they may have Europes vassal politicians in their pocket, but THEY, USA&/EUK, DONT OWN ME
The sooner THAT gets through their thick, dumb, sculls, the better
So, glenn,
Maybe a politician&bussinessfree social media, where we, the citizens keep them, the moneymakingmachinepuppets out of OUR PRIVATE LIVES would be a better option
‘Bad guys wont change, as long as no one is able to simply tell them NO &/stop them
We, citizens, need to stop placing our lives in their hands &let them tell us what to think, want, feel, eat, read, say, do, dont, etc, etc
WE are not a bunch of morons &THEY are NO gods, kings, queens, herdsmen, fishermen, saviors or messiah
Not even close…
The silence from the many purporting to care about democracy and American values is just sad.
The last few real Democrats and real Republicans can’t even be heard above the roar of the neolibcons.
And there’s nobody to penalize them for piping in fake applause.
I worry about the events that will be created to justify maintaining this crap.
Nothings Shocking by Jane’s Addiction comes to mind.
The PR machine is going to go big, and we are all fair game.
‘I don’t think there are any Russians (repubs)
And there ain’t no Yanks (dems)
Just corporate criminals
Playin’ with tanks..’ -thecall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kX8lqXAONg
So…short term stability…ignoring, even encouraging massive human rights violations is one way to look at current US policy on Egypt.
Another motivating factor for Obama, is the neocon’s common enemy with general Sissi, lslamic popular mobilization. Described by General Sissi as “terrorism”. The fighter planes and tanks America is sending, are going to help the dictatorship fight poets who witness police brutality, journalists who interview elected politicians and other “terrorists” because a credible election was already tried, and the military didn’t win.
Rather than being on the side of the majority, It seems Obama’s neocons, and Sissi’s generals both find themselves sharing the goal of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, namely the destruction of Islam.
Reason Magazine:
“Reason: We have to crush the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims under our boot? In concrete terms, what does that mean, “defeat Islam”?
Hirsi Ali: I think that we are at war with Islam. And there’s no middle ground in wars. Islam can be defeated in many ways. For starters, you stop the spread of the ideology itself; at present, there are native Westerners converting to Islam, and they’re the most fanatical sometimes. There is infiltration of Islam in the schools and universities of the West. You stop that. You stop the symbol burning and the effigy burning, and you look them in the eye and flex your muscles and you say, “This is a warning. We won’t accept this anymore.” There comes a moment when you crush your enemy.
Reason: Militarily?
Hirsi Ali: In all forms, and if you don’t do that, then you have to live with the consequence of being crushed.”
I don’t think Obama’s neocons, and Sissi’s generals are going to win. I prefer to think of it this way:
“I argue that the only viable strategy to containing the threat posed by all forms of extremism is to maintain international justice, universal freedom of conscience, secular governance, and a return to our Creator in personal worship. And I hold this position because this is the example set forth by Prophet Muhammad himself.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-rashid/an-open-letter-to-ayaan-h_b_6952412.html
Why is this World so affraid of religions?
&Hirshi Ali has to stop making her personal vendetta with Islam her&all of our ‘point of view’
Why is America so obsessed with defeating religions? Because humane and gain dont mix
God cares for humans
Politics, democracy (economy) cares for money only
The later neither GOD nor I can stand, for greed is a ‘bad habit’…
Obama resumed the U.S. armament and $ billions in cash aid to Egypt because Egypt’s dictator General Sissi has promised to participate in an invading military force in Yemen against the pro-Iran Shiite Houthis, and also promised to help the U.S. mercenary in Libya, Khalifa Hiftar, with an Egyptian military invasion to help him overthrow the elected Libyan government in Tripoli. That’s 2 wars for the U.S. interests, in return for U.S. fighter jets, tanks, and $ billions in cash! The lifting of the U.S. freeze of massive armaments in both fighter aircraft and tanks, therefore, is the U.S. payment in $ billions in armaments to al-Sissi in return of Sissi’s turning the Egyptian Army into a U.S. mercenary army in Middle East to achieve U.S. goals.
Not bad for Egypt with its economy near collapse but has been kept afloat with infusions of Saudi $ billions as al-Sissi’s harsh internal suppression and bombings by Egypt’s opposition groups has nearly destroyed Egypt’s tourist industry – the Holy Egyptian Cash Cow! The U.S. president Barack Obama admitted publicly that the U.S. aid is based on U.S. interests – regardless of Egypt’s harsh and dictatorial regime and Sissi’s trashing of democracy, or Sissi’s executions and stuffing of the Egyptian prisons with his opponents.
What the U.S. military aid means to Middle East? More wars, more slaughter of innocent civilians, and more instability in the region – courtesy of a financially broke Egyptian megalomaniac dictator ready to turn his army into a U.S. mercenary army in order to sustain himself in power! Nikos Retsos, retired professor, USA
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Glenn, come on, they DO hate us for our freedoms….primarily our freedom to lie about what we stand for and why we support tyrants.
Looking for trouble that will come to haunt in future. Always supporting autocratic and brutal regimes in the name of strategic interests that will bring deaths; suffering and then jihadist that will look for revenge. These are the America countless signatures in the Middle East; endless cycle of deaths and violence. Always supplying weapons when not killing with drones.
Maybe so … but technically:
“President Obama also reiterated U.S. concerns about Egypt’s continued imprisonment of non-violent activists and mass trials,” and “encouraged increased respect for freedom of speech and assembly and emphasized that these issues remain a focus for the United States.” *story
*Greenwald adds: “To read that is to feel the sincerity and potency of those presidential words.”
Yes, if nothing else, Obama sure says pretty words.
America’s aggressive foreign policy, leads to a preference for dictators, which has a bearing on this:
“It is, said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, an occupational hazard in negotiating with a country that has such divided power centers.
“A perennial challenge in dealing with Iran is that Iran’s most powerful officials are inaccessible, while Iran’s most accessible officials aren’t powerful,” “
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/world/middleeast/as-nuclear-talks-drag-on-us-and-iran-find-it-harder-to-hear-each-other.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share
First of all, It is kind of funny, that Americans in the land where congress is trying to subvert the president on everything from medical care to nuclear negotiations, need help explaining how other countries have “divided power centers”.
But it is true that when your stated goal is world wide “full spectrum dominance”, fragile puppet regimes are simpler to deal with than nations with local legitimacy and popular support.
“First of all, It is kind of funny, that Americans in the land where congress is trying to subvert the president on everything from medical care to nuclear negotiations, need help explaining how other countries have “divided power centers”.”
Congress and the WH are not concerned about the health of the American people, or the high cost of healthcare. You’ve completely misunderstood both the ACA and Obama’s (the ruling class’) intentions toward Iran. Obama is no less determined than the GOP to attack, destabilize, and plunder Iran.
“You’ve completely misunderstood both the ACA and Obama’s (the ruling class’) intentions toward Iran. Obama is no less determined than the GOP to attack, destabilize, and plunder Iran.”
I agree that Obama is equally determined to plunder, but perhaps Iran is at a different place on his priority scale. My point is that the article I quoted, suggests that Iran is remarkable for being host to a divided structure of government. Every government on earth has its peculiarities. These are to be analysed first, before they are indicted. And Americans should be well versed by now, in the antiquated nature and democratic failings of their own system.
I could even mention the fact that Obama was no more directly elected than was the supreme leader of Iran, Khamenei. Obama was elected by the “electoral college”. Khammenei was elected by “the assembly of experts”. I only mention this because US TV routinely insinuates that Iran is evil on the grounds that Khammenei “was not elected”. And of course it is not uncommon, nor necessarily bad, to have “centers of power” as the article puts it, that are not elected (The US supreme court, like Obama for example, is not elected directly by the people)
And on Obamacare, I’ve plagued these comment threads with more posts than I can count on how laughable was Obama and his Democratic congress’ failure to bring American healthcare up to the standard of (at least, the last) century, with something like single payer or even with the weak (and undefined) “public option”.
Locke, your comments just lack that punch without the counterpoint of your Demosthenes.
“Egyptian prosecutors are bringing criminal charges against witnesses who said they saw the police kill an unarmed poet and activist during a demonstration, a lawyer who has seen the charges said on Monday.”
Is it more repugnant than the Al Jazeera journalists who interviewed members of the democratically elected government (who are now themselves sentenced to death) being convicted of “terrorism” for doing their work as journalists?
What can you say? US taxpayer money goes to subsidizing American high tech weapons given to the Egyptian dictatorship that oppresses its people. It’s not at all ambiguous.
Sometimes revolutions fail. Sometimes you don’t get freedom on the first try (France, the revolutionary icon, didn’t). But as it stands now, when Egypt wins its freedom, it will be despite of, and not with the aid of, the American government.
This article helps the terrorists win™
Was that under the bed scaredy talk?When you figure out who the real terrorists are,and who supports them,get back to us.
Flash: US foreign policy not motivated by humanitarian ideals, but by national security. The horror, the horror! Next up: Americans place own lives above lives of people outside the US.
Right. The invasion of Iraq (from which many other events follow) was for national security. It had nothing to with some neo cons attempting to follow some idiotic dream of world domination, nor with numerous folks trying to make fortunes. Make your case if you think you know what you are talking about.
And when the “US officials” and media propagandists speak of “national security”, they don’t mean the safety and security of the more than 310 million American people or “the country” or “the Constitution.”
They’re actually referring to the interests of the owning class/ the ruling class/ the super-rich and corporate power. These operatives of the 1% assume they have the prerogative to use violence and any means necessary to maintain the hierarchical, unjust, exploitative, social (dis)order.
If hundreds of millions of Americans are unable to understand this double definition, if they’re unable to decipher the code language, it’s because of the way that the ruling class has distorted the public’s beliefs about the country, society, policy, and history. Americans are kept ignorant about power and political economy — who wields power, who is marginalized, who decides and who pays. Americans are kept ignorant about how change actually happens.
As Howard Zinn said:
The ruling class has concealed from the public the REALITY of the existence of, and the relationships between, classes in the US. (I’m not referring to the empty chatter about “the middle class”–Democratic and Republican and even Green Party politicians (and media propagandists) have learned that to trick Americans into casting ballots and thus empowering our oppressors, they have to feign concern for this undefined middle class while at the same time convincing the masses that the masses belong to the middle class. )
If Americans are lacking the awareness of how artificial “the system” is, if Americans been led to believe in the “national myths” and to never question the “orthodoxies” that are repeatedly fed to us, if Americans remain vulnerable to manipulation from above (esp strategies of divide and rule), if Americans continue to participate in our own dis-empowerment through the absence of mass opposition to the bipartisan fascist warmongering agenda and by being baited into casting ballots for our oppressors, understand that this illustrates the power of the owning class and of ideology. It’s a significant part of what we’re up against.
As Zinn reminds us in his book A People’s History of the US:
Language itself, the words we use and the assumptions behind them, is deformed by the super-rich.
Michael Parenti says:
Read the first 60 pages here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=X_yzt8NRWeoC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
specifically, from page 3 (the beginning of Media Moments) through page 60 of the book.
Parenti writes elsewhere:
“Next up: Americans place own lives above lives of people outside the US.”
But that is just it. US war policy doesn’t place US lives as a priority. Many Americans have died as a result of illegal invasions and occupations and support of dictators. The self described motivations of Al Qaeda, let us know that a primary goal of theirs before 9/11 was to remove US troops from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a country of extreme brutality where wealthy citizens both support Al Qaeda abroad, and fight it at home. The bulk of the hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi members of the Saudi funded group. And now post 9/11, many thousands more Americans have died taking Afghanistan and Iraq. And tens of thousands of Americans are suffering long term disabilities. None of this, the injured veterans, the war dead, the victims in New York, none of that shows a US government’s concern for American lives.
Sort of. But also motivated by economic interests.
This is not, of course, a news flash to Greenwald or his fans. We would simply like to see some honesty on the matter; let’s dispense with all the babble about human rights every time we wish to exert our absurdly vast military might.
Mona’s got a way with words: ‘All the babble …. every time we wish to exert our absurdly vast military might’
Hmmm, I just don’t get “it”. Thousands slaughtered, infrastructure destroyed, billions spent on military-to-military strategies and Obama & Rice & Others are saying that there is NO MILITARY SOLUTION!!!
Duh, folks, then what is the problem?
“Flash: US foreign policy not motivated by humanitarian ideals, but by national security. The horror, the horror! Next up: Americans place own lives above lives of people outside the US.”
Except that Iraq, leaving out for the minute a couple of dozen others, was not a threat to national security. Nor to American lives. Even the British House of Lords, that august body of fascist humanitarians, had the common sense to pronounce that terrorism, as murderous as it is, is not a threat to national security, it is not an existential threat to British life the way Nazi Germany was.
But people like you stomp your foot and keep babbling that playground level rationalizing. Christ, the world is run by pre-adolescents!
The geopolitical agenda in Egypt goes back to the end of World War II – Britain and France wanted to re-establish their colonial empires in the Middle East, Africa, and Southeast Asia, but regional independence movements and the new Soviet-American Cold War put an end to that agenda c.1954. The central point there was the Suez Canal, which Nasser, Egypt’s independent leader, nationalized. As Nasser made deals with the Soviets, the CIA responded c.1963 by providing weapons and training to the Muslim Brotherhood, perhaps the first example of U.S. support for radical Islamic terror groups as a bulwark against the Godless Communists, a theme that continued throughout the Cold War – indeed, it this continued even after 9/11 (U.S. backing for Islamic terrorist groups targeting Iran c.2003, etc.).
As ever, the agenda in Egypt is military and involves access to and control of the Suez Canal. U.S. Naval warships are continually patrolling from the Red Sea to the Somali coast to fight piracy; so they want Egypt as a cooperative military ally to protect oil shipping in the region. This is similar to the reason that we backed the Saudis when they sent tanks into Bahrain in March 2011 to crush the pro-democracy protests and keep the dictators in charge there – the U.S. has a 5th Fleet base in Bahrain, and the dictatorships are cooperative – who knows what democracy would bring? They’re afraid of something like the mayor of Okinawa, Japan leading protests against the presence of military bases on their soil.
The establishment in Washington still views the Middle East as America’s oil tanker; they’ve been reaping the proceeds from this deal for decades: oil flows out of the Middle East to world markets, the money flows into Wall Street and London banking centers under deals with the dictators in the region, and a good chunk of that money finances arms purchases by the dictatorships (the almost unmentioned $50 billion arms deal to the Saudis overseen by Obama, who also wants to sell them nuclear reactors on behalf of GE and Westinghouse – the Salesman in Chief, acting Willy Loman). This arrangement was set up in the 1970s and continues to this day; similar shady deals (like U.S. support for Israeli nuclear weapons production) date back to that same period, when the U.S. was in bed with the savage Shah of Iran and his torturers, and feeding him nuclear weapons technology (which is how Iran got a nuclear program in the first place, actually). A continuation of this policy, but with more aggressive military action, was the heart of the neocon agenda that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Powell, Woolsey etc. represented, it is why they cooked up the lies about Iraqi WMDs and 9/11-Saddam connections to support their aggressive militaristic agenda. They should all have been tried and imprisoned as war criminals under Geneva Conventions and Nuremberg legal precedents.
But that’s just background – but today, it all still revolves around ‘military-economic imperatives’ as the neocons would put it; the PR veneer of human rights, democracy, free press – nonsense, Obama worked overtime hand-in-hand with Middle East dictators to crush the Arab spring and keep the dictatorships intact. Why do they like dictators? They’re easy to bribe and they follow orders, unlike some uppity independent democracy.
So, does anything happening today change any of that? Speigel has a a very good article out on the current geopolitics of the Saudi-Yemen conflict, U.S. cooperation with the Saudis on the bombing, U.S. cooperation with Iraq’s Al Quds Brigade to fight the Saudi-sponsored Daesh groups in Iraq – and the summation is that perhaps the the old U.S.-Saudi-Israeli alliance (the Axis of Sleaziness) is on its way out; the Middle East is of less and less importance as fossil fuels lose their economic importance to widespread renewables (note that fossil fuel use is in decline, demand is dropping, but the economy is not in collapse) – hence the whole ‘shift to the Pacific’ concept in U.S. geopolitical strategic thinking.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/nuclear-talks-with-iran-show-new-us-approach-to-middle-east-a-1026489.html
If this means we can get out of our sleazy relationships with the Saudis and the Israelis, so much the better. It’s like having a burning tire around your neck, to have those two anti-democratic countries as close friends and allies. Yes, anti-democratic – both need major democratic reforms; the Israelis can have a one-state solution only if everyone in the West Bank and Gaza is allowed to vote in elections; otherwise it’s just South African apartheid complete with ‘Arab homelands’, and Saudi Arabia needs to eliminate rule by Royal Decree in favor of a parliamentary democracy along British lines. That’s what we should be pushing for in the region, it would finally put our actions in line with our words, which would be a nice change.
Very good comment
and interesting article:
“Moderate Iranian President Hassan Rohani and his advisors, though, are concerned about something else as well. They don’t want to be the victims of what they refer to behind the scenes as the “Oslo Disaster.” In the early 1990s, Israelis and Palestinians led US-brokered talks in the Norwegian capital, during which PLO leader Yasser Arafat was widely praised for his willingness to compromise. But he never reaped the benefits.”
This is one of the idiocies that Iran has to deal with. Iran is being asked to make physical, difficult to reverse alterations to its nuclear facilities, in return for vague commitments that sanctions will be suspended…perhaps years from now.
“The source gave examples of Iranian concessions which Iran argues would be irreversible if implemented, including the redesign of the Arak heavy water reactor the elimination of its stockpile of low enriched uranium and the ratification of the Additional Protocol by the Iranian parliament. Iran is demanding that the agreement include language calling for the timely ending of sanctions in response to the actual implementation in each case.
A senior Iranian official told the International Crisis Group last June that the redesign of the Arak reactor would involve the replacement of calandria, the existing vessel that holds the reactor core, with a smaller one. The officials said it would take years for Iran to reverse that change and restore the original rector.
…The much more serious Iranian concern is the six nation group’s insistence that the IAEA must also verify the peaceful nature of the programme, as though the implementation of the agreement were not sufficient evidence. Iranian negotiators have pointed out to Western diplomats that the IAEA could take up to 15 years to arrive at a final judgment, as it did in the case of South Africa, the source said.
A senior Iranian official told the International Crisis Group last November that IAEA officials, responding to Iran’s question about the time required, had refused to rule out the possibility that it would take more than ten years to complete its assessment of Iran’s case.”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-demands-lifting-sanctions-irreversible-moves-says-insider-1231828480
please see
Obama hails Iran deal as US strategic triumph
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/04/usir-a04-2.html
Thanks for calling it like it is Glenn. Also for using the right words to describe the junta, which is so important when even so-called liberal papers are using words that lend the coup an air of legitimacy like prime-minister, president, etc. and the deposed democratic government are always called Islamists – which has a definite connotation of illegitimacy in its modern usage. There’s a clear and comprehensive media bias towards this brutal fascist dictatorship that runs through almost every article. It would be inexplicable if we didn’t know that most members of the media are either willing puppets for their corporate masters, or simply bury their heads in the sand.
I feel Mr. Greenwald is being somewhat judgmental in this article. He uses labels such as ‘vicious tyrant’ which aren’t really conducive to promoting dialogue. The President on the other hand, as indicated in a 2009 interview, avoids such pitfalls.
He went on to say that Mubarak was a force for stability and good.
So I would encourage Mr. Greenwald to reflect, practice tolerance and in future avoid using labels for folks such as Mr. Al-Sisi. He is not a ‘tyrant’ or a ‘despot’, but rather a leader who is committed to the process of working towards democracy. A wise leader understands that you should not thrust democracy on the people before they have been trained to be properly obedient.
First, Al Sisi is “committed to democracy”? Seriously? What have you been smoking? Second, calling people like Al Sisi “vicious tyrants” is adhering to Pasternak’s good advice, especially amid a sea of lies: to call a thing by its right name.
Why do you put words in my mouth? I said he was “committed to the process of working towards democracy”, which is something else entirely. Democracy is a distant goal, likely not achievable in this millennium. But the process involves small, positive steps such as opening the economy to US firms and obeying US foreign policy dictates, which are actually achievable. Not everyone can be a democracy, but everyone can choose to be allied with democracy.
I would never put words in your mouth, benitoe, but it’s no coincidence SISI is ISIS spelled backwards *h/t commenter @ The Gruan
Ah, Benito, so cleverly you dodge the issue of why Egypt is a friend and Iran an enemy: Iran is capable of running an oppressive regime without US help.
Mr. Mussolini piggy-backs so frequently in these comments sections that perhaps he should call himself Il Ducho
Hey, Wake up People!
General Odiorno has clearly said, in front of Congressional testimony, that it’s always a Military to Military MTM strategy that’s always used, so forget about objections for democracy and human right not being priorities.
As it turns out, most of the military who overthrow democratically-elected governments [cases are too numerous] have been trained inside the U.
It’s always been MTM First …. military to military strategies.
Democracy & Human Rights are not figured in the planning, and neither are civilian casualties or destruction of the infrastructure
What’s going on in Egypt is a 100-year old replay of tactics used in South America, Central America, VietNam, Libya and on and on.
Unfortunately there doesn’t appear to be a referee to stop the game.
Nice to call the plays, but by now we should have wised up to the fact of these constant replays
Hey Mac …
“A wise leader understands that you should not thrust democracy on the people before they have been trained to be properly obedient.”
Exactly, wouldn’t want to have to orchestrate another bloody military coup people because they chose the wrong guy again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
“The Leahy Law or Leahy amendment is a U.S. human rights law that prohibits the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense from providing military assistance to foreign military units that violate human rights with impunity.”
Billy B.
According to Senator Leahy, his law “makes it clear that when credible evidence of human rights violations exists, U.S.aid must stop.
BUT, it provides the necessary flexibility to allow the U.S. to advance its foreign policy objectives in these countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law#Criticisms_of_the_law_and_its_implementation
Well, the puppet need strings.
Does our support of Egypt have anything to do with our special relationship with Israel? I only ask because I saw nothing regarding an explanation of it in the article above.
Bingo, I’d bet the U.S. greased Sisi’s return/rise to power because Israel requires an Egyptian government that’s willing to sell out the Gazans, for a piece of the action, when Israel begins stealing Gaza’s recognized natural gas reserves.
I love it when the nail is hammered down in one blow!
see also:
Middle East engulfed by war
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/03/31/pers-m31.html
“So the U.S. is, as usual, standing shoulder to shoulder with some of the region’s most oppressive regimes, whose survival at least partially depends on the abundant U.S. largesse they receive, once again provoking that age-old mystery: Why do they hate us?” Glenn Greenwald
Who are “they”? The Afghan Taliban? The Pakistani Taliban? Al Qaeda? AQAP? Boko Haram? Those groups primary targets ARE NOT the United States. They carefully attack and kill primarily Muslim civilians. So, who are “they”? There are no indications that most Muslims in Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Africa, Europe… while they strongly disagree with the West foreign policy, hate the West to a point that they want to kill Western civilians.
“They carefully attack and kill primarily Muslim civilians”
This is something you feel comfortable in supporting? I’m asking sincerely, not in a rhetorical manner. Fortune or misfortune of birth has and always will decide which civilians die in the wars we support or in which we are actively engaged. History has shown that alliances change with enemies becoming friends and friends turning hostile. So yesterday’s friends are tomorrow’s cannon fodder. Looking at just recent history(30 years or so), it’s difficult to discern exactly what our foreign policy goals are. Sometimes we look buffoonish, thrashing about sending troops or drones all across the globe and the wars only grow in scope. Since this isn’t a partisan issue, then what are our reasons for perpetual war? When the two parties are in agreement about waging war, we need to ask why since this is the only issue that isn’t deadlocked. If you have a better perspective than the obvious one in which we are funneling our fortune into the insatiable war machine, then let’s hear it.
Supporting what exactly? Bombing Al Qaeda or ISIL? Or providing weapons to Egypt? People start wars for many reasons, economic, religion etc. it has always been convenient to blame the US for all the wars. That is a good strategy to maintain a powerful position or to avoid understanding complicated situations. Of course there is not an argument for a war based on false accusations, but there are strong strategic, economic, political and moral arguments in stopping any terrorist organizations.
It is very easy for those sitting in party country Brazil or safe country USA to be enraged because the US, France, Jordan, Germany, UAE, and many others decide to bomb an organization that takes pride in massacring civilians. It is so easy for them because they do not face death or ethnic cleansing and they have to convince and manipulate their followers into believing that the West is responsible for the destruction of mankind. Moreover, many of them do not really care about human rights or humanitarian laws unless the violators are the US or Israel. Are we part of this world? If we are, then the question is would we want the Kurds or the Yazidis to help us if we were in their situation? I seriously doubt the Kurds whose cities have been destroyed by ISIL actually cares about Greenwald’s views that the US is bombing Syria just because it is a predominantly country.
“Fortune or misfortune of birth has and always will decide which civilians die in the wars we support or in which we are actively engaged”
I think armed groups decide which civilians die, not misfortune of birth. Whether you are Iraqi, Syrian, American …ISIL will kill you if you even pretend that your God is different from theirs.
You. Are. A. Troll.
Whenever someone uses the “complicated situation” excuse I feel that they are talking down to their listener. I know something that you do not and I am not going to tell you what it is. When Kerry uses it in a press report he is actually saying that the listener does not have the intelligence to comprehend the problem and that we smart folks will take care of it. Trust me.
“Whenever someone uses the “complicated situation” excuse I feel that they are talking down to their listener.”
Or the individual is warning the listener/reader about the danger of simplifying situations just to entertain one particular position. For instance you can easily believe that “they hate us” (I am not sure who are “they”, so I am assuming Greenwald is referring to the Taliban, AQAP, AlQaeda, Boko Haram, ISIL…) simply because the US provides military and financial support for dictators. But those organizations primarily targets the people, the civilians under the rule of those dictators. Most of the people under the rule of those dictators showed no interest in attacking and killing us. So, in my view the reader needs to go deeper in explaining “why they hate us” because the reason Greenwald provided does not seem to explain the objective of those groups.
Troll. Still. You.
Our reasons for perpetual war are the following: we have allowed our economy to be dominated by a cabal of speculative finance, which is bankrupt, and increasing desperate as the new BRICS bloc of nations emerges as a constructive force in the world, utilizing economic policies which we developed in the US, and then later abandoned. In the Middle East, we are acting as proxies for the British (as are the Saudis). The Brits are masters of the art of manipulating religious extremists in order to spread chaos, when they want to disrupt the potential for their former colonies to become actual sovereign nations. They have done this repeatedly to Iran, Libya, Syria and others, and they would like to do it Egypt. We do look buffoonish, because we are being played for fools.
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We got into bed with Stalin to defeat Hitler. How is it different if we get into bed with Egypt to defeat ISIS?
ISIS isn’t Hitler, and Sisi offers us nothing remotely what Stalin did in WWII. We could not have won WWII without the Soviets.
“We could not have won WWII without the Soviets.”
Did you say you were a historian and a military strategist besides a lawyer? Perhaps, you should review the effects of the battles in the Eastern Front during WWII “professor”.
You are a troll.
Pure conjecture, my dear
Well-supported “conjecture.” http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2007/09/scholar-addresses-question-%E2%80%98who-won-world-war-ii-in-europe%E2%80%99/
Indeed, some historians are now arguing the Soviets could have won entirely w/o the U.S. Not a majority view, but also not a fringe and absurd one.
Of course it’s true about the SU and how they occupied 300 German divisions,while our European adventure only entailed about 40.These idiots have an agenda,and historical hatreds based on myth.
And if Hitler had taken out Britain before his catastrophic attack on the SU,he might have won the war.
I do not believe defeating ISIS is even an option for the author of this article. His priority is to convince himself and others that the US government is “in permanent state of crime against mankind” (Josef Joffe). Greenwald carefully omits information such as the fight against ISIS and other terrorist groups that require alliance with governments with poor human right records. As you mentioned, the US and Britain supported Stalin, a tyrant, in order to defeat the Nazis. Their response: “ISIS isn’t Hitler”. Of course, they are not the same besides that ISIS, like Hitler, wants to conquer the world and commits genocide in the process. I wonder what Greenwald thinks about that. You will also notice that Greenwald barely writes about human rights violations in countries that have anti American governments such as Venezuela. He was actually enraged when the US placed DIPLOMATIC sanctions on Venezuela and TARGETED sanctions on a few Venezuelan officials. So, do not expect reasonable analysis of US foreign policy from Glenn Greenwald. That is not his goal.
Blah blah blah. Go talk bullshit somewhere else.
Your passions exceeded your comprehension of the piece. The central idea of Greenwald’s piece is not difficult: the US gov’t’s claims that it stands for freedom, human rights, peace, etc is utterly false if one simply observes their record abroad. How on earth can you draw the conclusion that he doesn’t want ISIS defeated from this article? Then, you move on to another wacky accusation, asserting that Greenwald just wants people to believe that the US is in a permanent state of crime. Sorry, that’s not his point (is it that difficult?); his point is that the US official stance on its actions abroad is a lie and if the gov’t lies, they should be held to account. I’ve heard Greenwald routinely say that if the US gov’t would just admit what it actually does abroad and why and present its position transparently to the American public, then the public would have the unvarnished facts upon which to direct the country “by the people, for the people.” You should make more of an effort next time.
“Your passions exceeded your comprehension of the piece.”
Your passionate support exceeded your comprehension of Greenwald
“The central idea of Greenwald’s piece is not difficult: the US gov’t’s claims that it stands for freedom, human rights, peace, etc is utterly false if one simply observes their record abroad.”
You can pick the record that Greenwald gives you or you want to pick to prove your point while you disregard all other records so you can simplify the situations. What if you pick another record? The US (soldiers and regular civilians “volunteers”) are in serious danger because they are fighting ISIL. Are you willing to state that the human rights violations of ISIL have nothing to do with the US intervention? Another record? The US has led a coalition against Serbia in the 90’s. Are you willing to state that human rights violations against minorities in the Balkans have nothing to do with the US intervention? Another record? The US even under under Chavez has maintained multi billion dollar trades with Venezuela. Are you willing to state that the diplomatic sanctions against Venezuela and targeted sanctions against a few individuals have nothing to do with these individuals’ human rights violations?
So, if you take your time and observe all the records, specially those carefully omitted by Greenwald, then it is not as black and white as he wants to portray it. However, anybody who is anti American would completely disregard those records or would find other reasons to explain those interventions while dismissing human rights or peace.
“If the US gov’t would just admit what it actually does abroad and why and present its position transparently to the American public, then the public would have the unvarnished facts upon which to direct the country “by the people, for the people.” ”
The US government for years has stated over and over that Egypt or Saudi Arabia have serious human rights violations, but it supports them anyway because of many reasons such as oil, fight against terrorism, the conflict between Israel and Palestine etc. So, since when was it a secret that the US supports Saudi Arabia because of oil? Since when was it a secret the US supports Egypt because of the Egyptian military policy in the Palestinian conflict? Yearly reports from the State Department, US Congress have clearly reported human rights violations in those countries. Elected governments in the US for years have supported those regimes regardless of those reports. I am not sure how transparent it should be.
“How on earth can you draw the conclusion that he doesn’t want ISIS defeated from this article?”
Because his explanation of “why they hate us” is as simplistic as to the one he provided a few months ago. He carefully insinuated that ” they hate us” because the US bombs countries because they are predominantly Muslims including the bombing of ISIL in Syria and Iraq. Why would I conclude the defeat of ISIL is a priority for him while he blames the West for bombing ISIL even the bombing came at the request of those who are being massacred by ISIL?
Isil,or ISUS?AlnUSrA,or AlCIAda?How about them wacko JSILs,(Jewish State in the Levant)?
Don’t feed the trolls. It just encourages them.
Point taken.
“Then, you move on to another wacky accusation, asserting that Greenwald just wants people to believe that the US is in a permanent state of crime.”
Well, whatever Greenwald wants, is there any real doubt that the US is in a permanent state of crime?
Maybe the move by the US government was based on wanting to insure that Russia does not gain too much influence in Egypt given that Putin recently visited the country.
Which does nothing to lessen our hypocrisy. Might even add a little.
It’s too bad that the Salon website doesn’t have indexed and archived Greenwald’s many excellent pieces on the hypocrisy of US officials, and his documentation and exposure of Washington’s terrorism in the Greater Middle East. As Frank Furedi noted in his must-read book “New Ideology of Imperialism” (1994), the aggressors (the US and UK) effectively portray themselves as the victims, and portray the victims of imperialist terrorism as the perpetrators.
Below is an incomplete list (suggestions and additions welcome). It should all be included among The People’s evidence against the imperialist war criminals and warmongers. (Dammit, when’s the Greenwald Reader coming out?)
Dec 11 2014
EXCLUSIVE: “Corrupt, toxic and sociopathic”: Glenn Greenwald unloads on torture, CIA and Washington’s rotten soul
Glenn Greenwald tells Salon how the torture report exposes true evil — and a nation drowning in hypocrisy
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/11/exclusive_corrupt_toxic_and_sociopathic_glenn_greenwald_unloads_on_torture_cia_and_washingtons_rotten_soul/
August 7 2012
Unrestrained savagery | In Yemen, Al Qaeda bombs a funeral of someone it killed days earlier. How can Terrorist monsters do this?
salon.com/2012/08/07/unrestrained_savagery/
June 25 2012
Collapsing U.S. credibility | Condemning foreign governments for abusive acts while ignoring one’s own is easy. But the U.S. leads the way
salon.com/2012/06/25/collapsing_u_s_credibility/
May 29 2012
Obama the Warrior | A new NYT article sheds considerable light on the character of the Democratic Commander-in-Chief
salon.com/2012/05/29/obama_the_warrior/
April 19 2012
America’s drone sickness | The U.S. slaughters at will, then shields its actions from all forms of judicial and democratic accountability
salon.com/2012/04/19/americas_drone_sickness/
March 14 2012
Obama’s personal role in a journalist’s imprisonment | Abdulelah Haider Shaye helped expose deadly US misbehavior in Yemen — and now the president won’t let him go free
salon.com/2012/03/14/obamas_personal_role_in_a_journalists_imprisonment/
Dec 8 2011
U.S. arming Egyptian military crackdown | Amnesty International documents the vast difference between the administration’s words and actions on democracy
salon.com/2011/12/08/u_s_arming_egyptian_military_crackdown/
November 23 2011
What Endless War looks like | U.S. officials simultaneously announce that we’re defeating Al Qaeda and they’ll be a major threat “for years”
salon.com/2011/11/23/what_endless_war_looks_like/
November 13 2011
GOP and TP on Obama’s foreign policy “successes” | To wild GOP crowd cheers, Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachman vehemently defend Obama’s assassination policy
salon.com/2011/11/13/gop_and_tp_on_obamas_foreign_policy_successes/
November 12 2011
U.S. takes the lead on behalf of cluster bombs | After long refusing to join the convention banning these weapons, Obama now works to overturn it
salon.com/2011/11/12/u_s_takes_the_lead_on_behalf_of_cluster_bombs/
August 21 2011
U.S. Mideast policy in a single phrase | While publicly praising the Arab Spring, the U.S. and Israel mourn the loss of “dependably loyal” despots
salon.com/2011/08/21/mideast_7/
July 18 2011
The War on Terror, now starring Yemen and Somalia | The U.S. continues to spawn the very Terrorism problem it claims to combat, with the media helpfully in tow
salon.com/2011/07/18/terrorism_37/
July 13 2011
US more unpopular in the Arab world than under Bush | A new poll confirms prior ones: anti-American sentiment is now at dangerously – even unprecedentedly – high levels
salon.com/2011/07/13/arabs/
June 14 2011
Yet another illegal war — now in Yemen | A newly announced CIA bombing campaign is without a whiff of legal authority
salon.com/2011/06/14/yemen_illegal_war/
Apr 26 2011
Strong anti-American sentiment in Egypt | A new poll reveals the dangers of U.S. policy in that region, and the lack of change in perception
salon.com/2011/04/26/egypt_12/
February 21 2011
This week in winning hearts and minds | Four incidents from the last week alone highlight why there is intense anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world
salon.com/2011/02/21/heartsandminds/
February 8 2011
Obama’s man in Cairo | No discussion of Omar Suleiman is complete without examining his brutal and repressive history
salon.com/2011/02/08/suleiman/
October 12 2010
They hate us for our occupations | A new study by a University of Chicago professor reveals the obvious about what actually causes terrorism
salon.com/2010/10/12/terrorism_28/
August 25 2010
An exciting new Muslim country to drone attack | Administration officials anonymously boast of preparations to escalate a bombing campaign in Yemen
salon.com/2010/08/25/yemen_4/
February 17 2010
Hillary Clinton gets tough with “military dictatorships” | Who is the target audience for the pretense that the U.S. will not tolerate dictatorships?
salon.com/2010/02/17/clinton_83/
December 21 2009
Cruise missile attacks in Yemen | The widely recognized causes of the 9/11 attacks seem stronger and more alive than ever
salon.com/2009/12/21/terrorism_12/
This link leads to 104 pages of Glenn Greenwald Salon columns.
http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
Having delved into that link more, it seems that maybe it doesn’t continue on to include all of Glenn’s Salon columns. Seems there must be an access to the full archive available somehow and somewhere.
Wow. Thanks. That took al lot of effort.
Thank you.
Mr. Greenwald, I am a great admirer of your work, and I generally agree with you at least 100%, but I am somewhat puzzled by your antipathy toward al-Sisi. Al-Sisi has adopted an orientation similar to that of the BRICS nations, in that he is insisting on developing his nation’s infrastructure and spurning the demands of the imperial IMF/World Bank system. Obama until recently had been encouraging the so-called Islamicist opposition to al-Sisi, as he has also done in Libya, Syria and other countries which had secular, nationalist leaders. Apparently he has concluded that this is a losing strategy. But I hope that you can see that the Islamicists have historically been a tool of the British in particular, who have used them to destabilize any Middle Eastern nation that was charting an independent course and attempting to become economically self-sufficient.
What do you mean by “until recently?”
I see nothing in your comment that contradicts Glenn’s post.
The Muslim Brotherhood were who the Egyptian people democratically elected and the military, via al-Sisi, rejected democracy; further, they’ve imprisoned, tortured and killed untold numbers of people; I don’t think this signals a healthy society, do you? So, my question to you is how important is democracy? Do some of the neat things al-Sisi’s done render democracy irrelevant so easily?
He’s a thug dictator.Isn’t that enough to censure the sh*t?More prizes on his chest than a whole Cracker Jack factory,and about as earned.
Mike Keefe offered a cartoon** that might be appropriate…
**https://twitter.com/inToon/status/583053543621332992
Patience. It takes a minute to load.
And, Well said!, wiltmellow.
Thank you so much as always Glenn. It is sad but in many ways unsurprising. It is unbearable to hear these very US politicians say that they supported the Arab Spring. Thanks, Janet.
Imagine all the money we could send directly to NASA and researching alternative energies if we stopped supporting Germany, Egypt, Israel, and so on. Its like the US has a couple dozen kids that are all around forty yet we still pay their cell phone bill.
Why do they hate us?
“They hate us because we don’t even know why they hate us.”
? John Powers
Poor misunderstood Americans.
We give them guns and they shoot at their people.
We give them wise leaders and they complain about prisons and torture.
We make sure they have political stability and they want democracy.
We give them money and their citizens whine about poverty.
We keep them safe from terrorists and they join the terrorists.
Hmmm …
It must be their religion.
As shown here, the connection between America’s military contractors who are building armaments for Egypt’s military and the U.S. government is making it difficult for the Obama Administration to take action against Egypt:
http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2013/08/whos-benefitting-from-us-military.html
If one steps back and takes the long view of what is happening in Yemen, one cannot help but admire the brilliance of the Iranians. If a regime friendly to Tehran is installed there, then Iran will control both of the choke points between Saudi Arabia and the Indian Ocean. This will enable them to mine those straits should they be attacked by Israel or the US, providing an oil crisis that makes 1973 pale by comparison. What’s more, their allies are also effectively dealing with the ISIL and Al Qaeda threat, something the current regime has been unable to do, even with massive US assistance. Once again, the US has picked the wrong side in the Middle East.
By the way, nice lead picture. Not what was intended, I suspect (wrong president) but doesn’t Hillary look terrific, smiling so admiringly at another of her dictator buddies?
The establishment continues its kabuki theater, always pushing the idea to both Democrats and Republicans that their own leaders are at least a tolerable lesser evil. The Republicans in the populace are kept believing their representatives are hampered by the Dems from reducing the size of government, and the Democrats in the populace are kept believing that their representatives are hampered by the GOP from using the State’s power for uncorrupted good. But neither side in the establishment actually wants to diminish the corporatism and militarism of the State at all! They just want the public to be so sentimental and aroused in left/right loyalties that they (the public) can not resist identifying with the CARICATURES of these ideologies offered by the State theater, and thus protract the charade indefinitely – a charade which facilitates corruption and waste while claiming to be a debate on how best to avoid them.
And the establishment sells this by appealing to gut-level, base notions, like Republicans are more ‘macho’ war-enforcers and Democrats are ‘nanny-state’ lovers, for these are foundational caricatures which both sides (interestingly) want to believe, and which do contain a small kernel of truth – even though a less gracious perspective shows that many Fox News viewers are obviously dependent on the nanny-state and many MSNBC viewers are obviously neoliberal militarists. But the apparent ferocity of the theater leads the propagandized straight into dishonesty with themselves and lame excuses for their party, subdued in the single desire to humiliate the opponent at all costs.
And so we find the kabuki saying to the public “Obama is anti-war,” which is laughable on its face, YET BOTH DEMOCRATS *AND* REPUBLICANS WANT TO BELIEVE IT. But it is absurd. As Trevor Timm said yesterday:
“If Obama is an anti-war president, he’s the worst anti-war president in history. In the last six years, the Obama administration has bombed seven countries in the Middle East alone and armed countless more with tens of billions in dollars in weapons… Those clamoring for more war are detached from reality: the US is already escalating – not pulling back – its involvement across the Middle East. In Afghanistan, the president has quietly delayed pulling US troops out of Afghanistan by the end of the year so they can continue special forces raids and drone strikes, despite loudly celebrating the supposed “end” of combat operations during the State of the Union in January. In Iraq, US forces escalated its airstrikes in the so-called battle to re-take Tikrit, which the New York Times editorial board decried as a folly, but received scant scrutiny elsewhere. The Pentagon also confirmed last week that they expect the Isis war to last ‘3+ years.'” (Trevor Timm)
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/30/obama-anti-war-presidency-detached-from-reality
It’s nice to let the penny drop:
To see that we’ve been had.
The Democrat’s the play’s Good Cop,
The G.O.P., the Bad.
Trust them as you would a snake,
Be quite on guard, in fact.
Both the Cops are ‘on the take.’
The fight is just an act.
Well put, as always. And I like the poem very much!
Egypt’s another particularly poignant example of why a recent State Department briefing response that the U.S. has some imaginary “long-standing” foreign policy against aiding or supporting coups was actually laughed at by a member of the press, repeatedly, as it should’ve been.
http://truth-out.org/speakout/item/29598-dn-state-department-announces-new-long-standing-policy-against-backing-coups
So I’m personally in the corner that scoffers, though just as frequently and tragically propagandized by corporate controlled media, are at least the less tragic by virtue of recognizing more of the blatant falsehoods for what they are.
Right, because the regime that al-Sisi replaced was so friendly to gays.
And what did the U.S., and pro-Sisi politicos here, say about that regime?
The regime before Al Sisi was not friendly to gays, liberals, and freedom of expression, but it was strongly anti Israel and many elements in it were anti US. That was more important for Greenwald. Greenwald is willing to disregard a government human rights violations if that government is anti Israel or anti US. He has written a lot about Venezuela, which has multi billion dollar deals with the US, but not to enlighten his readers on Venezuela human rights violations. Why? Simply because Venezuela is run by anti American government.
Alpha Brown,
Stop it. I know you are impressing yourself, but its like watching someone pee down their leg and cheering that the drought had broken.
So true Alpha…..so true.
Religious people follow their religions tenets.Here in America,we have turned irreligious,as there is not one voice from our religious establishment acting Christian.
When in Rome do as the Romans do,or does your arrogance preclude that compromise?I’m sure the Egyptian people will not miss you if you never visit.
Pinkwashing,the only arrow left in the quiver of hypocrisy.
And if you think that we have heard the last from the MB in Egypt,and the peoples voice,you are delusional.
So sexual proclivity is now political?Might be the worst excuse for murder,invasion and demonization in history.Caligula would be proud.
Thank you for your post, Glen.
Business as usual, USA allways on the sides of brutal dictatorships,
allways giving a f*ck-off to freedom and democracy,
USA allways No.1 in hypocracy an corruption.