(This post is from our new blog: Unofficial Sources.)
Members of Congress appear ready to use a rare moment of leverage over the NSA to place modest limits on only one of the many mass surveillance programs exposed by Edward Snowden.
The USA Freedom Act of 2015, a long-awaited compromise bill negotiated by House and Senate Judiciary Committee members, was unveiled Tuesday. The bill calls for the bulk collection of Americans’ phone records by the National Security Agency to be replaced with a more selective approach in which the agency would collect from communications companies only records that match certain terms. The bill also requires more disclosure — and a public advocate — for the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
But nearly two years after Snowden gave the public a rare and extensive view into the U.S. surveillance state, Congress is doing nothing to limit NSA programs ostensibly targeted at foreigners that nonetheless collect vast amounts of American communications, nor to limit the agency’s mass surveillance of non-American communications. The limited reforms in the new bill affect only the one program explicitly aimed at Americans.
Congress had leverage for once because three provisions of the PATRIOT Act are set to expire on June 1. They include, most significantly, Section 215 of the act, which was intended to allow the government to obtain specific business records relevant to particular counterterror investigations, subject to review by a FISA court judge. Instead, the NSA used it to justify the wholesale seizure of American telephone records.
The USA Freedom Act would amend Section 215 so that the government, when seeking phone and other business records, would have to use a “specific selection term”.
In the past, the intelligence community has been served well by congressional inaction. But this time, the legislative branch has to affirmatively pass something or a provision the NSA cares a lot about goes away. In fact, this time, inaction would serve privacy activists. ACLU attorney Jameel Jaffer, for instance, argued Tuesday that the USA Freedom Act “would make only incremental improvements” in some areas and that Congress should let Section 215 expire and pursue “wholesale reform.”
The new bill has the political virtue of splitting the differences between Republican and Democratic elites, even as it leaves out in the cold a nascent alliance of libertarian-leading Republicans, anti-surveillance liberals and privacy activists who wanted more. It accepts — without any public evidence — the claim that the intelligentce community needs access to domestic phone records. Judiciary committee members were quoted in the Washington Post saying the bill “would ensure the NSA maintains an ability to obtain the data it needs to detect terrorist plots.”
The new bill is also expected to garner considerably more support than two outlier proposals. One, by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky, would renew the PATRIOT Act as is. Another, sponsored by Reps. Mark Pocan, D-Wisc., and Thomas Massie, R-Ky., is called the Surveillance State Repeal Act and would completely repeal both the PATRIOT Act and the FISA Amendments Act, which the NSA cites as legal authority for the “Prism” and “upstream” programs that “incidentally” collect untold amounts of domestic content. A group of whistleblowers endorsed that bill yesterday.
Senator Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, has called the bill “the most significant reform to government surveillance authorities since the USA Patriot Act was passed nearly 14 years ago.” But of course that’s a low bar.
Leahy added that the current bill “is a path forward that has the support of the administration, privacy groups, the technology industry — and most importantly, the American people.”
And indeed some anti-surveillance groups are lining up behind the bill, partly in the hope that they may be able to make it stronger.
The Center for Democracy & Technology announced that it is supporting the bill, which it called “a significant first step in broader government surveillance reform,” but added that even with passage “there would still be much more work to done to enhance privacy protections from overbroad government surveillance.”
“Introduction of the USA FREEDOM Act is a significant step toward meaningful surveillance reform,” Amie Stepanovich, U.S. Policy Manager at Access, said in a statement. “Congress has considered multiple ways to rein in the NSA for almost two years but has failed to take any real action. We are running out of time, and the people are running out of patience.”
The Open Technology Institute announced its support for the bill “as the last, best hope for surveillance reform.”
Photo of Sen. Patrick Leahy: T.J. Kirkpatrick/Getty Images
Yes, American politicians are elected for their corporate sponsorship preferences only. Once that is understood their lack of action on public good matters is understood. That concept is a joke unless it is only for the most trivial of vote pandering and feel good speeches. America itself is a persuasive argument that true democracy is not possible. Despite its forefathers best efforts their democracy goal/ideal was corrupted and perverted into their worst fear, ….. total power, control, and subservience delivered by the governing power structure. Their “Constitution” as my cop friend calls it, is irrelevant and “so 90’s”.
This headline nicely sums up the role envisioned for Congress in the Constitution. Those who criticize Congress for doing nothing are overly harsh. It is intentionally endowed with a weak leadership (no member is elected on a national basis) because it is intended to be a deliberative body not inclined to precipitous action.
The Patriotic Act was the aberration, the result of the Congress actually doing something. It can mobilize itself in the face of what it perceives to be danger, but it would be unfair to expect the same amount of energy to be expended when only human rights are at stake. But if there is political pressure to restore some privacy, members of Congress can be quite reasonable and would probably be willing to compromise if the bill also authorized increased pork for their constituents (i.e. the lobbyists).
For example, the act might be amended to mandate that the NSA would not spy on Americans on Sunday. This would please both the privacy advocates and the Christian vote. In exchange, Booz Allen Ham would be given the contract for Sunday spying.
Or they could double the salaries of the FISA Court justices so that they could take twice as long reviewing the warrants submitted, before rubber stamping them. This wouldn’t even require any pork for lobbyists, since Congress is proactive in this area and takes the initiative on its own accord to vote for increases in government salaries.
It is easy to mock such proposals as being only window dressing, but Americans should be realistic about what can be achieved, and settle for what they can get.
“In exchange, Booz Allen Ham would be given the contract for Sunday spying.”
Sigh.
I propose we avoid issues as controversial as redecorating, which can turn into a rabbit hole of color mismatching, fights, and heartbreak. Let’s stick to rearranging the furniture.
You can do it yourself in a couple of hours on a Saturday with only a little help. And then you can finally vacuum where the sofa used to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=CkOD3JPZCkY
#AskCindy #BDS
Maybe Congress will let the NSA propose a compromise in which Congress’s own communication privacy is guaranteed in return for permission to spy on everyone else.
How about…
Repeal the Patriot Act.
https://twitter.com/00AnonGhost00/status/594277817245917184
;) ;) ;)
Snowden, Assange and Manning statues unveiled in Berlin:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a9e_1430515801
I made it for you… supposed to make you smile… No other way to share it with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nqhVtq6xo
It was your production award… you don’t need to give a speech..
Take care dear Cindy
Rowan
See below comments.
Full Text of H.R. 1466 at: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr1466/text
It looks like our nation is finally beginning to move beyond the scaremongering of Ed Snowden and Glenn Greenwald about a so-called surveillance state. The NSA reform bill wont be perfect but at least it will keep key governemnt authorities in place to protect the United States in a dangerous world. The next step is to push Russia to extradict Snowden to the U.S. so he can face justice for the damage he has done to American national security.
LOL, well the reason Mr. Snowden is in Russia is because the US stuck him there. You are very funny, Fred. Mr. Snowden didn’r damage the USA, but the NSA did and keeps doing it.
I am wondering when another truly patriotic private contractor will send out some of Mr. Clapper’s phone records so we can see what transparency really is! ( or are certain numbers exempt and how do they do that, and really how could Bluifdale really hold everything anyway?
You know, Fred, It would also be nice see what Mr. Alexander was thinking about before he found that next job in private industry, don’t you think? : )
Perhaps you could refer to proof that such “authorities” are necessary, and while you are at it, the scaremongering that you mention is what you say.
Related to this topic is the one pertaining to the secrecy surrounding the TPP.
It is important to know that this impending disaster for America does have some some congressional push-back from Senators Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown.
See: “Obama’s Drone Assassinations and TPP = Tough Patooties, People”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/28/obamas-drone-assassinations-and-tpp-tough-patooties-people/
Snip: [“Senators Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown have recently sent a letter to President Obama confronting the White House bluntly on the secrecy surrounding the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) and the impact it could have on the American economy and legal system ~ but in the process this letter demonstrates to me that the American people have been completely marginalized and silenced by a growing plutocracy and that corporations are now firmly in control: Allen L Roland, Ph.D”]
The full letter is available for reading at that link as well as a petition to stand with Senators Warren and Brown in the demands of their letter to President Obama for release of the full text of the TPP.
As jgreen7801 says: Speak-up people.
I have the highest regard for Snowden and his brave acts. I also respect the intent of The Intercept and its excellent reporting on security issues and beyond.
However, lest be realistic, Snowden has made no difference of any significant degree. Nor have the Luxemburg leaks or the HSBC leaks and numerous other events. Spying on the world is ongoing and has increased sense Snowden, Jean-Claude Junker was made head of the European Commission, a high and powerful office, after the Luxleaks were disclosed. The false statements and out right lying by government officials and their corruption is out in the open now, they clearly don’t even feel the need to cover it up. Leaks or investigations prove corruption and they look the cameras in the face and essentially say – so what. When Greece elects a new government in free and fair elections the Neoliberal establishment sets out to destroy not only the Greek people and their uppity democracy but democracy throughout Europe. Lagard and the IMF don’t even pretend to be on the side of democracy or are willing to make any concession to it.
Neoliberal ideology is impervious to reason, logic, economic analysis or even evidence abundant and irrefutable of the harm to working people throughout the West. The Neoliberal power structure as a cult might behave ignores any argument or evidence which questions its near absolute authority.
The great US Neoliberal Empire is succeeding on every continent of the world. Now in Brazil – as always with substantial help from the US/CIA – the Neoliberals are gaining ground rapidly as the leftest government corruption has been exposed through NSA information gathering and the use of the Evangelical movement in Latin America. The great hope that Latin America seemed to offer is being dismantled. Once the Neoliberals get Brazil the rest of the continent will eventually fall. Obama has successfully encircled China and the next phase will be containment – it will be hard for them but they have vast power. The economic system of Neoliberalism has developed into Neo-feudalism as all Western government is subsumed in it and work for the oligarch/plutocratic global rulers. These oligarchs operate above and beyond any law domestic or international, pay no taxes and dictate government policies. They are our new feudal lords and there is no force on the horizon with anywhere the political support or strength of any kind to oppose them. And, as the great Howard Zinn said many years ago, our greatest problem is still very far from being solved.
“Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.”
I think, with Snowden’s stuff, the real benefit is going to take a bit longer to really show. Plant a seed, and watch it grow. There was never going to be a smackdown. It has always been too late to expect or even hope for a sudden shift. I tend to think of it more as a slow fuse that might pay off in the aggregate as everything else goes to hell and it becomes more and more personal. The long game. Strategy. It may wind up failing, but it is way too soon to say in that particular case.
I have posted this before but will reiterate my posting because partial correction of the problem of mass surveillance (US Freedom Act) will not correct the unconstitutional nature of the violation. It is the Patriot Act with executive order (EO 12333) that allow for the unconstitutional state actions to continue.
Therefore…let the sun go down on the three provisions of the Patriot Act (especially 215) which are expiring:
Please see: The Sun Must Go Down on the Patriot Act
https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/sun-must-go-down-patriot-act
Also…consider signing the petition at the following link.
https://action.aclu.org/secure/stopnsa?ms=web_150408_privacyandtechnology_surveilla…
EO 12333 was Reagan’s EO “banning assassinations” in 1983. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12333 : “No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination”.
That turned out well.
er 81.
(yes I know it is also the holy grail of the bs intel stuff going on too… just wanted to point out even further how far we have come in our NewSpeak, since that part is talked about a lot less… if 12333 ever gets repealed or rewritten there are a ton of ither things that are barbed as hell in that EO. We need to encourage the end of creative interpretations. I highly doubt “legal changes” are going to do anything but codify more monstrosities otherwise. Sorry fir the abbreviated previous comment.
Yes…and HR 1466 does not address EO 12333 which is explained in depth at the following link:
“New Documents Shed Light on One of the NSA’s Most Powerful Tools”
https://www.aclu.org/blog/new-documents-shed-light-one-nsas-most-powerful-tools?redirect=blog/national-security/new-documents-shed-light-one-nsas-most-powerful-tools
I think it most critical to go for the sundown on Sec 215 at this point in time.
Now it is my turn to apologize peanuts and crackerjacks.
I reading my comment, I wrote that HR “does not” address EO 12333. But it DOES. That is why I posted the full text.
It prohibits targeting of US persons without a warrant, imposes annual auditing requirements, and retroactively requires destruction of all information obtained without a warrant of probable cause on US persons.
Sorry….done for the night now.
“It prohibits targeting of US persons without a warrant, imposes annual auditing requirements, and retroactively requires destruction of all information obtained without a warrant of probable cause on US persons.”
I could drive a hole through every one of those provisions wider than a screaming chasm the size of the Grand Canyon. Ergo they will.
Sorry, that came off really short. I am a bit commented out for the day.
The truth is nothing that passes will make things better. I want those laws repealed as much or more than you but I think we need to be really conscious of who the players are, what they want, what they are capable of, and who they are accountable to. All the rhetoric and “new laws” in the world won’t make things any better when things that are already considered criminal by the international court, the peoples of most countries, and even war crime precedents are all being blithely ignored, redefined, or blatantly rejected require “laws” when laws already exist and the powers that be wrote them with the same sort of mindset it takes to pass a poly without “lying” and actual perjury isn’t used to (pardon the imagery) bludgeon the reputations and careers of those who do it (eg Clapper).
I think it’s a wonderful thing, hope, and I am most certainly not saying we shouldn’t have some… but experience has taught me you do not come to a war using the weapons your enemy is best at – you come to each battle with the weapons you are best at, the resources you can rely upon and trust, and perhaps most importantly with people who have the least to lose and the most loyalty to your outcome, while not stepping off the path into the ground they want you to fight on (eg violence).
I’ve been pondering that if something like the massive number of convicted felons who have “lost their right to vote” were to peacefully march on DC… what a massive massive demonstration that would be. I’ve also pondered what the odds are it’d turn into a massive slaughter instigated by the government being terrified of anything like Vietnam-era protests. The net is too safe and controlled/controllable yet very easy to completely ignore… it has also completely changed how people “protest”. I think that works against us. And they know it, as demonstrated by trying to turn every protest into an informant-filled sting-mania crazyfest… and most of them are just kids. Yet it is older people, with families, etc, and considerably more perceived power, who generally have considerably more to lose, that also have a greater chance at not being as easily dismissed or manipulated.
I think I also posted this link on Mr. Froomkin’s other article regarding HR 1466.
It is the full text.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr1466/text
HR 1466 has the best promise of hope and improvement overall but it has to make it through several committees which will stall it.
That is why I think it is best to push for sundown on the three expiring provisions of the Patriot Act.
Do you expect the Congress to do anything?? All of their actions are against the rights of the citizens –
From N.A.F.T.A. to the bailouts – to the WARS …..
Name Anything They Have Done “WE the PEOPLE”. spying on the people to protect themselves – Wall Street profits while they still support the – 0% interest……
but the FORECLOSURES are still there. You work – You earn your pension and Washington and the courts CUT THEM
Put it off till the people forget about it………….
Regarding the USA Freedom Act:
[Congress is Attempting to Reauthorize Key Patriot Act Provisions by Sneaking it Into “USA Freedom Act”]
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/congress-attempting-reauthorize-key-patriot-act-provisions-sneaking-usa-freedom-act.html
I will view those organizations which are supporting this with increased disdain in the future.
At the risk of suffering the slings and arrows which I endured the first time I offered my observations on the disparate readership for different authors, I will attempt to reiterate a more gogent argument. While it’s understandable the front man, Glenn Greenwald, would garner the most attention when he submits his contributions to the discussion, the sheer number of comments he receives compared to other authors suggests he is either, by far, the best equipped, most eloquent author at TI, or perhaps he is simply the most familiar face in the crowd, or maybe both. In fact, Glenn is well equipped and quite eloquent, especially when speaking extemporaneously. For me, I follow him better when he is speaking than in his writing, which brings me back to the question, why the disparity in readership of all the authors? The issues expounded upon by these authors are too important to be distracted from because of a celebrity culture. The Intercept is a wonderful resource full of talented writers, both staff and readers. This is by no means an attempt to bring one author down but rather an attempt to elevate the other great authors. I’m thankful for all the contributors, even when we disagree, because I know my thoughts and opinions are open to correction when it’s deserved. Thanks Dan for moving to TI. It’s getting late, so before I get too maudlin, good night all. Speak up people, while we can still exercise that inalienable right.
This issue and article should be of primary focus to all citizens, but especially to TI readers who are genuinely concerned regarding reclamation of constitutional rights, particularly those granted UP Amendment IV; from an obviously rogue Federal Government.
I also appreciate the due diligence and persistence of Mr. Froomkin, and additionally extend my sincere thanks.
I actually (no offense gg) find Scahill, Froomkin and Balko (and Poitras in different way, for other reasons) far more interesting… but I wanted to mention that I don’t think it is entirely a “celebrity” issue so much as it is a “skin in the game” issue. To some extent people trust him more because he (reluctantly at first, kudos to Laura, but eventually irreduceably) basically publicly declared his intent(s) in such a way that he developed a public and much-needed symbol of integrity. I don’t think he ever said he lacked foibles (noone lacks foibles) and he basically has a lot less to lose left than a lot of other journalists. I think he could be more bold but that’s just my personal opinion. In this day and age noone with half a clue knows who they can trust and I think a lot of people are so exhausted by the propaganda mill that they just automatically gravitate to people who allow them to turn their propaganda filters down a bit if they are already skeptical.
I think the greater commenting response to Greenwald is only that. More comments, not necessarily more readers. Every time a story gets opened so that a frequent commenter can check for responses to his/her recent comments, another “reader” is logged. Three people who post thirty times each are three readers, not ninety readers. And those three readers may be arguing with each other, not responding to Greenwald.
In addition, Greenwald is an “advocacy journalist”. That’s not a bad thing, but it does tend to attract comments from people whose opinions differ from the opinions of the journalist, who is making a case to the readers the way a prosecuting lawyer or defense lawyer would make a case to a jury. The lawyer presents some facts and says, in effect, now let me tell you what these facts mean. Not everyone will interpret the facts in the way the writer does. And that sparks comments. Journalists on this site who insert fewer and less obvious “now let me tell you what that means” sentences into their stories tend to generate fewer outraged objections in the comments section. They may have just as many actual readers as Greenwald does.
Of course this pithy bill assumes that the NSA will even obey the new rules–or that POTUS won’t have secret signing statements ignoring the law–citing national security reasons.
(or maybe you don’t understand how this both end-runs and cements said end run)
Way way too gentle and dangerously generous. :(
I think we are a lot safer today because of these Bills than we were in 2001. In fact, a lot safer than any Ultra-Max.
Even if true (and it’s very debatable if surveillance has actually done anything), so what? That is–it would also make “us” a lot safer if we were to execute or expel all Muslims, white police officers, returning vets with PTSD, white male high schoolers, mothers with Post-partum depression, college fraternity members, and any and all even suspected of a crime. As well as forcibly install GPS chips in every citizen, institute a 6pm to 6am curfew (shoot on sight for violating it), and so on.
If a bill violates the Constitution it doesn’t matter how safe it makes anyone, it’s illegal and should be undone. If it took violating the Constitution to stop an oncoming comet from destroying all life on Earth, doing so would still be illegal and such a bill shouldn’t pass without a Constitutional Amendment. (and/or those violating it to save all life should still afterwards be punished for violating it).
Had any bill or order violated the Constitution then the Supreme Court would have acted. But they didn’t. So the violation of the Constitution is your imagination. Surely you are not more learned or more patriotic than the H’ble Judges … which really doesn’t mean very much, but still.
quote”Had any bill or order violated the Constitution then the Supreme Court would have acted. But they didn’t. So the violation of the Constitution is your imagination.”unquote
Says one who just put a tooth under the pillow.
We have an activist Supreme Court. Earl Warren would be rolling over in his grave at some of the decisions and opinions made by a few of the current justices.
“Had any bill or order violated the Constitution then the Supreme Court would have acted.”
Right, because the Supreme Court simply strikes down, willy-nilly, any bills or orders that violate the Constitution. Do you think we’re all as stupid as you are?
Yes, I do, probably more.
““Introduction of the USA FREEDOM Act is a significant step toward meaningful surveillance reform,” Amie Stepanovich, U.S. Policy Manager at Access, said in a statement. “Congress has considered multiple ways to rein in the NSA for almost two years but has failed to take any real action. We are running out of time, and the people are running out of patience.”
So, according to Amie, doing anything whether it accomplishes much or next to nothing is better for whom? As for me, I no longer hold much hope in the legislative process, yet by similar logic, a little hope or almost no hope is better than no hope. There was a time in my youth that I know for a certainty the surveillance we have been shown to be living with would have resulted in such a clamor from the people that administrations would have either been forcibly removed or submit wholesale resignations. The younger of you ask the ones who were around for Watergate whether the kind of surveillance state to which we are forced to submit would have been possible then, or during Kennedy’s term, or even the first Bush, a CIA man. Although I hold little hope, I sign every petition I can find in regards to stopping the surveillance. I still make phone calls and write my congressmen, not because I think it will work but because we need to use whatever tools are available. The younger ones out there have no idea how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone. I don’t know how you can write about these issues Dan without wanting to scream(maybe you do), but then you’d be just another loud noise, so thanks, and keep on truckin'(dating myself a little).
The country has evolved since your time and it is now USA Inc, with its CEO, COO, Board of Directors, shareholders and employees. What you are doing places you in the last category. Surely you don’t aspire to all the perks that the other guys.enjoy?
Actually, it still is my time, seeing that I’m alive and no, I do NOT aspire to all the perks. I enjoy living in the forest that is my property and have no intention of bulldozing it to capitalize on the crops that could be grown. My small orchard along with acres of wild blueberries, blackberries, and beautyberries provide all the fruit we need, chickens for eggs and meat, only if the SHTF. otherwise they’re more like pets. Wealth is not our goal, at least not in the sense most people assign wealth. The reason I speak up about all these problems is for those who come after. Most are still asleep and living an illusion, perhaps delusion. My biggest regret is I didn’t wake sooner. I agree with your assessment of the corporate conquest of what had the potential to be a truly great country.Avarice is now the guiding principle in our society where a fair profit is not enough and whatever the market will bear is running roughshod across the planet. I just don’t see us changing course any time soon so I might as well speak my mind. At the very least our leaders can’t say there weren’t any dissenting voices warning of the coming calamity.
Yes our world has changed we have gone from National defense to National offence. Quite right my father’s Great generation would not have allowed the current security state. They had just defeated fascism and would have understood how enablers much like we see in government today open the door to evil. Call the coming evil socialist or fascist, it will probably be a totalitarian franchise of both founded on National security, “our children must be kept safe.” When I was a child millions of us ducked and covered under desks rather than the Nation accepting communism or compromising our Constitution. Our soldiers have always done their duty for a good or ill cause. It is the majority of our current citizenry that have elected bread and circus over knowledge and duty. Yes it is enough to make you move to the country and turn your back but a few of all generations must fight on to at least maintain a memory of a Constitutional Republic. When evil come and in time fails we will need this.
quote”The country has evolved since your time ..”.unquote
No, the country did not evolve. It devolved ..into the United States of Depravity. Now, back on your head, Beeno not.
Thanks!
seconding Cindy’s comment: this and the prior article are important. Thanks for your attention and effort Mr. Froomkin.
Repeal he surveillance state!
Also: where are we on the court-ordered production of the gov’t-withheld Abu ghraib photos, and the necessary war crimes tribunals for executives authorizing torture, for architects and operators of the drone programs, and for failure to investigate and prosecute alleged perpetrators of the same?
if the rule of law has been abdicated by our government, then what’s the point of even having a legislature?
Could this article be more prominently placed on The Intercept, please?
The establishment is pretending to change things while not really doing so, and while Froomkin illuminates this theater in a calmer way than I would, this must be seen. Everyone read his previous article, also:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/04/27/whistleblowers-back-surveillance-state-repeal-act/
Good!
It is easy for one reading the articles and comments on TI to discern who is genuine in intent to both promote and activate cures in defense of the Constitution and We the People.
It is also easy (for some of us), to discern ego from applied spiritual consciousness toward betterment of humanity and the planet as a whole.
This is meant to be a few words of encouragement to you (albeit in the comments of the wrong article) to continue your higher endeavors in both areas Cindy.
In that manner, you will always win regardless of density in any perceived dimension of time or space.