Last week in the Boston area, a 26-year-old black Muslim man was shot and killed by agents of the FBI and Boston Police Department (BPD). As we documented the following day, major media outlets immediately, breathlessly and uncritically repeated law enforcement claims (often anonymous ones) about what happened: that the dead man, Usaamah Rahim, was on the verge of executing an “ISIS-inspired” or “ISIS-linked” plot to behead random police officers, in a conspiracy with at least two others. When Rahim was walking to work near a CVS drugstore at roughly 7:00 a.m., the officers approached Rahim simply to question him about this plot; in response, he pulled out a “machete” or “military-style knife” that he refused to drop, forcing the officers to shoot him dead.
There were all sorts of obvious, glaring questions about these claims, yet they were largely ignored in favor of ISIS in Massachusetts! hysteria and melodramatic talk of beheadings. That is a profoundly disturbing aspect of this incident: the police can now accost someone in the street who, by all accounts, was doing nothing wrong at that moment, kill him, and then just scream “ISIS” and “Terrorist” and “beheading” enough times and no real questions will be asked.
To persuade journalists to accept their claims, the FBI and BPD insisted there was a surveillance video that would resolve doubts about what happened, claiming that “video surveillance confirmed the officers’ account.” But they didn’t publicly release the video, instead spending almost two full weeks softening and manipulating the public mind by making repeated claims about what the unseen video demonstrated.
The video was finally released on Monday. To call it a joke is to be generous. The camera is 50 yards away from the incident. The lens is obscured with rain drops. The human figures are barely decipherable. No weapons are seen, including any wielded by Rahim. While it does show that Rahim wasn’t shot in the back as his brother originally suggested (and now acknowledges he was misinformed), it shows little else. In sum, it’s virtually impossible to know what happened from this highly touted video, other than the fact that Rahim appears to have been walking peacefully when he was approached by multiple individuals, wearing no police uniforms, in a threatening, military-style formation:
Media outlets that had been touting the video as confirmation of the police version quickly noted that it did the opposite. “Releasing video of shooting spurs dispute,” declared the headline of the Boston Globe, which pointed out that the video “is grainy and shot from a distance through rain … the figures that can be seen are silhouettes, and no weapons are visible … No weapons are visible in the footage, and the initial meeting of the task force members and Rahim is obscured.” The New York Times’s headline similarly noted: “In Blurry Video of Boston Shooting, Officers’ Retreat Is Clear but Knife Is Not”; the article conceded that “it is difficult to make out whether Mr. Rahim, 26, who was under police surveillance at the time, was carrying a knife, as the officers have said.”
So obfuscating is the video that even CNN noticed, observing that while “officials told reporters the footage spoke for itself … Still, it required narration,” referring to the FBI’s press conference (pictured above) where they provided tendentious, step-by-step instructions for how journalists should interpret and describe the “speaks-for-itself” video. CNN also noted that “it’s not possible to make out details — and there is no audio on the video” and that it’s “blurry because of the distance between the camera and the subjects it’s recording.” Rahim’s family issued a statement detailing the numerous questions raised by the video.
Indeed, this video raises more questions than it answers, and the entire incident itself is plagued with all sorts of unresolved doubts about what happened here:
(1) Let’s assume for the sake of argument that the police’s version of the shooting itself is actually truthful. Is it really that surprising — or blameworthy — that someone who is accosted this abruptly and aggressively by five men not wearing uniforms would feel threatened? An unwillingness to drop his knife would just as likely be a byproduct of being provoked (deliberately or unwittingly) with threatening behavior as it would some pre-existing behead-the-police plan. If one wanted to provoke Rahim into some shooting-“justifying” defensive behavior, approaching him this way would be a great way to do it.
(2) Related to that point: let’s accept for the sake of argument the FBI’s claim that Rahim was on the verge of executing an ISIS-linked plot to behead police officers, and they knew this because they had him under 24-hour intensive surveillance, including electronic surveillance of his calls and emails.
Why didn’t they obtain an arrest warrant so they could apprehend him, or a search warrant to find his alleged co-plotters? If they had such clear evidence of his plot, why wouldn’t they have done that? Why risk a public confrontation in which bystanders could be endangered in order to “question” him? If he hadn’t wielded a knife, and had denied any intent to attack police officers, was it their intention to just let him go on his way? The FBI/BPD’s claim — we had proof he was an ISIS-inspired terrorist about to unleash a terror plot — is totally inconsistent with their behavior in how they approached him and with their claimed reasons for doing so.
(3) One of Rahim’s alleged co-conspirators, his nephew David Wright, has been arrested and charged. But he’s not charged with conspiring to kill police officers or carry out terror attacks, only with one count of “obstruction” for allegedly suggesting that Rahim destroy his cell phone. If Rahim had conspirators in his terror plot as the FBI continuously alleged, why haven’t any of them been arrested or charged?
(4) Early reports claimed that there was a third conspirator beyond Rahim and Wright. The FBI affidavit filed against Wright repeatedly references a “third person” who plotted with Rahim and Wright and met with them.
Yet there has been no further mention of this “third person,” and apparently no arrest of him. Why not? Is that third person an FBI informant? Is this yet another case where the director and prime mover of a scary “terror plot” is in fact the FBI itself, through the FBI-directed “third person”?
(5) What basis exists for the highly inflammatory claim that Rahim was “linked to” or “inspired by” ISIS? The only evidence cited was that he followed and “liked” some ISIS-related material on social media. Is that now sufficient for being publicly depicted by the U.S. media as an ISIS operative and treated as such by gun-wielding agents? Note that the Obama DOJ is currently trying to add 20 years onto a prison term of a Florida imam based on the “Islamist” books he possessed.
Speaking of social media, here is what Rahim wrote on his Facebook account, datelined November 27, 2012, in Boston:
Damn FBI calling my phone! They just want any opportunity to drag a Muslim into some DRAMA … He wanted to meet up with me and “Talk.” HA! I said about WHAT? He said “Sir, we have some allegations regarding you …” I said “REALLY?” What ALLEGATIONS? He said “Well sir, thats what I wanted to meet up with you about. I came by your house a few times, but kept missing you.” I said, “If you want to summon me, you summon that COURT ORDER if your allegations you claiming are true, otherwise, BEAT IT” and then I hung up … funny, I was just telling my brother I heard some clicking noises on my phone. Every Muslim needs to treat these government cronies the same way I did, because if you let them get close, trust me, they’ll have you making statements about things that could get you jail-time, that in fact, you were preaching AGAINST i.e. violence and terrorism. Try again, monkey-boys …
So he was not only wary of being set up by the FBI, but specifically said he was “preaching AGAINST violence and terrorism.” As AP noted, on social media Rahim “spoke out against the kind of violence Islamic State extremists are fomenting across the Middle East,” and “posted no bloody pictures and made none of the violent calls to arms many supporters of armed extremist groups espouse on social media.” Moreover: “killing people is anti-Islamic, Rahim wrote, arguing a key tenet of the faith is ‘we do not fight evil with that which causes a greater evil.’” That is the exact opposite of the social media profile of some sort of ISIS-inspired terrorist, and is the exact opposite of how Rahim was repeatedly depicted during two weeks of media sensationalism based on FBI claims.
(6) The monitored telephone calls cited by the FBI as proof of Rahim’s plot are, at best, ambiguous. They quote Rahim as telling Wright: “Yeah, I’m going to be on vacation right here in Massachusetts,” about which the FBI affidavit says: “Based upon my training, experience, and involvement in this case, I believe that ‘going on vacation,’ a phrase used repeatedly in conversations between WRIGHT and RAHIM, refers to committing violent jihad.”
Muslims actually do take vacations like everyone else, so maybe “going on vacation” means “going on vacation” rather than “I intend to commit violent jihad by beheading police officers”? Other interpretations of supposedly coded language — such as “like thinking with your head on your chest” as a signal for “I intend to behead police officers” — are similarly questionable, at the very least worthy of some skepticism before declaring that the killing of Rahim was justified on the ground that he was a beheading-plotting ISIS terrorist.
The affidavit also cited Rahim’s statement that he was going to “go after” the “boys in blue,” as proof that he intended to murder police officers. But in his social media postings, Rahim constantly complained about being harassed by the police for no reason; at one point, after they questioned his neighbor, he wrote: “They are persistent but guess what, they got nothing on me. Keep on coming, you stupid fools and I’ll sue the crap out of you for harassment.”
Arguably, “go after” the “boys in blue” could mean I intend to behead police officers, but it could at least as plausibly mean: I intend to sue them. Again, the FBI’s featured evidence is weak and ambiguous at best, and nobody should be simply assuming that it proves Rahim was a guilty terrorist who deserved to die.
What we have here is a black Muslim man killed while walking to work, followed by dubious and evidence-free inflammatory claims from the FBI and its media that are designed to make you want to simply dismiss Rahim as an Evil ISIS Operative who deserved to die, all without asking any questions. The point here isn’t that he’s innocent; there still aren’t enough facts yet to reach a valid judgment. The point is that these kinds of incidents and official claims should always be met with questions and skepticism, especially by journalists. Here, the more “evidence” that is presented, the more numerous and compelling those questions become.
Using the weakest possible statements, the same law enforcement agencies that killed him branded him an ISIS terrorist and the media dutifully followed. They essentially worked in tandem to find him guilty of his own shooting death.
Photo: Elise Amendola/AP
I’m surprised that the authorities are bothering to vilify him as a would-be terrorist – all recent evidence indicates that police forces in the United States are happy to kill people for the “crime” of Living While Black.
If they had no reason to legally detain him and he pulled a knife they should have just moved as far away from him as possible. This was murder plain and simple.
Well done Glenn. Please let us know how to protect and denounce these murerers and criminals while under the color of law surveilled anyone they wish just because they can. I am sure the murderers also do the same thing to average popuulation at every street corner of the usa via their undercover murderers even while attending family highs school graduations.
The entire USA-undercover under the colot of law is murdering people for having the freedom to run at anytime they wish in a graduation or on the street. The murderered under the color of law while undercover are perpetuating lawlessnes even against non-combative non-threatening children, teenagers and the jewish owned media propaganda defend them and misdirect and manipulaate the public with FALLACIES in order to misdirect that is nothing more than deceiving and the work of criminals because criminality does not start with murdering.
criminal provocateur while under the color of law! undercover or not.
I watched this story for the first time on democracy now. My first reaction was ,
BS not buying it. Sorry for the poor man who was set up and sad for his family and friends.
In North America the citizens are played for fools
Mr. Greenwald,
The way you take apart and analyze so called accurate reports from police departments, backed up by mainstream media sources, is absolutely beautiful.
If only there were more individuals willing to speak to power, the way you do, things in America would change.
As it is, it will be decades before the hold that our almost complete police state has on the populace is weakened, if ever.
In my daily existence, I note with alarm, the lack of concern in all strata of society, and the curious willingness to accept at face value, most of what government and its agencies report.
Mainstream media is clearly to blame for this way of thinking, and dutifully act as the voice of their masters in government.
Astonishing how quickly a nation that was once regaled as the bastion of Liberty, could so quickly become the innocuous totalitarian state it now is.
A grand jury just indicted a Virginia cop for voluntary manslaughter. He killed a mentally retarded black man who had been holding a knife in his family’s home.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/grand-jury-indicts-virginia-cop-for-fatally-shooting-mentally-ill-black-man-like-a-dog/
Sam Harris doesn’t think he lost the debate with Chomsky. “Anyone who thinks I lost a debate here just doesn’t understand what I was trying to do,” he said.
-”Officially, the Al-Shifa attack was retaliation for the bombing of several embassies in Africa, justified by accusations that the plant engineered chemical weapons for terrorists. Harris assumes an awfully charitable disposition toward Clinton, arguing that the given reasons are sufficient to establish a moral difference between the Al-Shifa bombing and 9/11. Chomsky responds that all leaders profess benign intentions before committing their crimes, and notes that the official reasons fall apart on closer examination. Indeed, Clinton never provided evidence of Al-Shifa’s weapons manufacturing and later investigations demonstrated the facility had no ties to terror.
Chomsky even goes Harris one further, suggesting that Clinton probably didn’t intend to kill thousands of people by bombing Al-Shifa – he simply didn’t bother to consider the human cost. “On moral grounds, that is arguably even worse than murder, which at least recognizes that the victim is human,” Chomsky writes.”
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/07/scoring_the_noam_chomskysam_harris_debate_how_the_professor_knocked_out_the_atheist/
A pretty good explanation of the idiotic US plan to “advise” in Iraq. “You send more troops and you lose sight of the political goals. There is a war between Sunnis and Shias, what are the Americans going to do? They are not the white knights”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzHXmRImkA
What’s the problem?, so they’ve just been raped, forced to be child soldiers, are fleeing corrupt authorities, don’t know who to trust, are sick, have only just escaped…give them an hour to compose themselves, hold the hearing, and toss them out…what’s the problem???
-”UK’s fast-track asylum system ruled unlawful
The group states: “Many asylum seekers on the detained fast track are confused and distressed. Held in conditions equivalent to a high-security prison, they struggle to understand a complex procedure in an unfamiliar and hostile environment in which clear information is not always easily available.”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/12/fast-track-asylum-system-ruled-unlawful
Ah, here we go again, We’ve gone from exploiting the holocaust, to completely turning 20th century history on its head in the cause of the Israeli government.
-”If labeling Jewish goods sounds darkly reminiscent, it does as well to Germany’s neo-Nazi groups, who have recently co-opted the country’s BDS movement.
But the neo-Nazis shouldn’t get all the attention — labeling goods from East Jerusalem is a brazen act of economic warfare from Europe, and one that violates the principles of the very peace process Europe claims to promote.”
nypost.com/2015/06/11/europes-economic-war-on-israel/
Individuals participating in BDS is “economic warfare”?, Whereas the sanctions the US government imposes? That’s not warfare, right? That’s legitimate? I can’t boycott McDonald’s? But the US government can? Seriously?
Benjamin Weinthal thinks boycotts are reminiscent of the Nazis?
News flash: The Nazi’s murdered people. It was the Jews who started the boycotts in response. The Nazi counter boycott against German Jews was in retaliation to the Jewish-American boycott. Does Weinthal think the US Jews were anti-Semites, guilty of economic warfare?
-”BOYCOTT ADVOCATED TO CURB HITLERISM; W.W. Cohen Says Any Jew Who Buys Goods Made in Germany Is a ‘Traitor.’
A strict boycott against German merchandise to serve as protest against Nazi anti-Semitism was urged last night by former Representative William W. Cohen at a meeting of the executive advisory committee of the Jewish War Veterans of the United States at the Hotel Knickerbocker. “
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9906E0DA173BEF3ABC4951DFB5668388629EDE
This is too funny, Amer Shomali’s “The Wanted 18”:
-”the cows were declared “dangerous for the security of the state of Israel” and became fugitives from the law.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlKZ8daLtOo
Who says the Israeli government doesn’t have a sense of humour!. The kids, aged 9 to 11 the Israelis killed on that Gaza beach who were playing football, were legitimate targets because they were near a “compound” (a fisherman’s hut) belonging to Hamas’ “Naval Force”.
Does anyone have a rundown on the latest Hamas order of battle??? How many aircraft carriers do they have? Are they all in that fisherman’s hut???
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/11/israel-clears-military-gaza-beach-children
Ah but the killings are in a “good cause”, Israel is the only democracy in the….oh, never mind:
-”Israeli minister bans play that ignited debate on stifling dissent
A decision by Israel’s new education minister to halt the performances for high school students of a controversial play, inspired by the life story of an Arab who murdered an Israeli soldier, has rekindled a fierce debate in the country over the limits of artistic expression.
…The controversy comes on the heels of Culture Minister Miri Regev’s threat to halt government funding for a small theater after its founder, an Arab Israeli, refused to perform in a Jewish West Bank settlement. Regev says she will also examine financial support for other institutions that attack the state.”
http://www.startribune.com/controversial-theater-play-sparks-debate-in-israel/307091571/
this Nazi cartoon is quite interesting.
Label the bench ‘Palestine’ and the man sitting on it as ‘Palestinian’.
Label the standing man ‘Israeli’ and you have the current situation of Palestinian land, all but appropriated by the newcomer.
Translated text;
Numerous other Nazi cartoons refer to Jews as “snakes”.
Modern Israeli politicians also refer to Palestinians as “snakes”.
There is an old adage that states: Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
I’ve long said, “Those that do learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”
At least US citizens are given a chance to respond to law enforcement questions before being murdered….. er… wait..
http://warincontext.org/2011/10/19/american-16-year-old-boy-latest-victim-in-obamas-global-drone-war/
News today shows that the FBI did arrest the third conspirator from Rhode Island.named Nicholas Rovinski,who will be arraigned today. The article above leaves out or at least underplays Rahim carrying the Marine assault knife which has to play into the picture. It also does not emphasize that Rahim as he walked toward the five cops did not alter his pace and that one of the cops closed in on him to shoot him.when he could have waited as the other cops were doing. .
The first part of your comment is a wish on your part that no one actually read the article, since it includes this:
The second part of your comment just doesn’t make any sense; so much so that I don’t know what to refute about it or debate about it because it’s completely meaningless.
The vid attached is tragically reminiscent of a long-ago SNL skit where the cast displaying a quite stiff dead fish and a blender called Bass-O-Matic drop the bass into the blender along with some water or other liquid, fire it up and puree the fish, pour the resulting beverage out into a big glass, take a ravishing gulp and say “Now, that’s great Bass!” … I expect that not many of us would buy the Bass-O-Matic,or the “Great Bass!” any more than most of us will actually buy that the “exonerates the cops”‘ vid is any closer to reality, save in its accurate, not-at-all-funny-ha-ha depiction of what – the irrevocably wretched – we’ve become…
All I heard was ISIS IN MASSACHUSETTS!
I’m low-information, baby, that’s what I am.
Isn’t it possible that this guy was well aware that he was being surveilled, that despite his innocence he perceived his life to be in danger,and that he carried a knife to defend himself. The police and FBI have gone rogue, any young black man or muslim would be right to fear for his life.This was state facilitated murder, either deliberate or due to a failure to properly control their agencies.
Any one from the outside looking in is agog at US hypocrisy on human rights issues and the sacrosanct rule of law.
I am awe struck at Glenn Greenwald’s intellect and writing ability.Glenn, did you study philosophy?Thank you, you are one of the few journalists I trust.It still makes me laugh when I recall our shady little crook of a PM(NZ John KEY)calling you “Dotcom’s little henchman”
worthwhile:
an actor plays George Orwell in this biography of the gadfly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuVYvkdTYWc
There’s better quality video that has been on Boston tv
-”Anderson Report: the civil rights lobby need to understand that we are a nation at war
It might not seem like it on a nice summer’s day like today, but we are a nation at war, and at times of war our security and intelligence services need all the help they can get to thwart our enemies from doing us harm. “
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11667619/Anderson-Report-the-civil-rights-lobby-need-to-understand-that-we-are-a-nation-at-war.html
You know, I was thinking, the way you used to tell we were at war was, all the evidence that we were at war. People left their regular jobs to fight. They did that because fighting a real war was important. They rationed luxury goods, because in a war, it is more important to build military goods. People even agreed to die en masse fighting wars. It not only seemed that we were at war, it was obvious.
But now, apparently, they are talking about a war that is so hard to spot, that the papers must periodically remind readers that “We are at war!!!” If it is the sort of mild, partial, sort of war, that is invisible, then perhaps expecting people to succumb to the “Don’t you realize we are at war!!” reflex is asking a bit too much.
This is confused:
Encryption means “ freedom is enjoyed only by the strong” but…
…giving government easy access to data would “threaten the integrity of our communications and of the internet itself”
-”The report says that government should have the power to break through such encryption. “Were it to be otherwise, entire channels of communication could be reduced to lawless spaces in which freedom is enjoyed only by the strong, and evil of all kinds can flourish,” the report says.
But it also acknowledges that giving government easy access to data would “threaten the integrity of our communications and of the internet itself”. “Far preferable, on any view, is a law-based system in which encryption keys are handed over (by service providers or by the users themselves) only after properly authorised requests.””
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/uk-spying-laws-should-be-scrapped-anderson-report-says-as-surveillance-powers-likely-to-receive-complete-overhaul-10312842.html
Imagine, whole areas of the world given over to lawlessness.
We’re “at war” when we TELL you we’re “at war,” bucko.
Of course, war has been like this, on and off, for a long time. I remember the last few years of Vietnam, when “the war” was all over the front page of every newspaper. But other than that, there was no sign of it. I’m pretty sure it was like that in the early years, too. And don’t forget every other dirty little action in Central America since Guatemala. But this “reminding” thing—that’s new. I guess our eyes have glazed over.
Let me know next time we’re NOT at war.
Top Marks Baldie (glad I can’t remember that far back!!!)
H/T Sillyputty “The good in the world you can fit inside a thimble and still have room left for you and me” ~ Tom Waits
Misery’s the river of the world (playlist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq-84Y1EviE&list=RDOq-84Y1EviE&index=1
Quetiapine XL
from Nafeez Ahmed
Ex-intel officials: Pentagon report proves US complicity in ISIS | Renowned government whistleblowers weigh in on debate over controversial declassified document
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/ex-intel-officials-pentagon-report-proves-us-complicity-in-isis-fabef96e20da
Salafists “R” Us!
What led to the radicalization of this sailor? Surely he wasn’t raised to become a member of a terrorist organization, the US Navy.
http://www.kirotv.com/videos/online/video-sailor-pleads-guilty-to-hate-crime/vDTcjb/
MAJOR QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED IN BOSTON KILLING OF ALLEGED ISIS BEHEADING PLOTTER
Nonsense! no major questions remain. A young angry — can’t imagine why — black man, converted to Islam, online and on the telephone made threatening comments directed at the police, so they set him up, provoked him, and then they blew him away. That was the plan, perfectly executed. Move right along, nothing to see here.
I have to admit the whole “Isis-inspired terrorist plot” backstory with which they dressed up their police murder was artful and magnificent in its execution. Forget about Al Qaeda, it’s so passé, Isis is the new and improved terrorism. Coming soon to an African-American community near you. Be afraid be very afraid, and don’t forget to support your local police.
Ok, I’m reading the WSJ, I’m trying to make sense of the China/US conflict in the Spratly Islands. Several countries are making new artificial islands there, but the US is concerned about China doing it. OK, I’m reading along, at first I thought, according to the “United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea” that what the US is saying makes sense….until I got to this part….
-”The U.S., alone among major nations, hasn’t ratified the U.N. convention”
and the WSJ ends with the understatement:
-”which to some extent weakens its position in taking Beijing to task”
Yeah, Obama demanding that China submit to America’s reading, of a treaty that the US doesn’t respect…Hashtag face-plant!
http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2015/05/27/chinas-claims-in-the-south-china-sea-the-short-answer/
I’m going to make a list of all the artificial islands off Florida, and send it to the Chinese air force so they can take pictures of them the next time they are patrolling America!!!
– “The Venetian Islands are a chain of artificial islands in Biscayne Bay in the cities of Miami and Miami Beach, Florida. “
– “That begs the question: what is the US going to do about it? The short answer may be not much. The US continues to fly military planes near the new islands. It and other nations are stepping up military co-operation in an effort to show a united front. Yet China’s island reclamation programme has proceeded apace. Mr Carter’s words sound like President Barack Obama’s “red line” in Syria. If Beijing continues to call Washington’s bluff, the truth will be out: the US speaks loudly but carries a small stick.”
http://www.afr.com/news/world/beijing-holds-the-upper-hand-in-south-china-sea-20150610-ghl8tn
South China Sea? Too bad Gen MacArthur didn’t name it the “American Sea”. Is it too late???
HERE is the kind of case you ought to be covering: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/northern-virginia-teen-admits-guilt-on-terror-related-charge/2015/06/11/721d8750-1042-11e5-a0fe-dccfea4653ee_story.html
According to the Post, “Amin also admitted to using Twitter to provide advice and encouragement to the Islamic State and its supporters, according to a statement of facts filed with the plea agreement. Through his Twitter handle Amreekiwitness — Amreeki translates to “American” — Amin provided instruction on how to use Bitcoin, a virtual currency, to mask funds going to the group and helped supporters seeking to travel to Syria to fight with the group, court documents said.”
Now I may not have a great deal of sympathy for people who hatch even a hare-brained scheme to get knives and kill cops in the name of ISIS, but when the ‘conspiracy’ amounts to delivering a goodbye letter and making some informative ‘Tweets’, that does worry me. Some might say that The Intercept‘s articles on how to encrypt a hard drive and such aren’t much different in substance, and they might say even in intent. The fact that the accused is a whiz kid whose first love seems to have been digital currency doesn’t help the case. Nor that in this case the conspiracy is not to kill people, but to help people fly to Syria where they might decide to kill people. I mean after all, the law ought to leave open the vanishingly small possibility that the bozo on the plane gets over there and sees a couple of dozen people with their hands being hacked off or pushed off a tower and decides no, he wants a different utopia.
I hope The Intercept will try to get the information on that case. As I understand it, the guilty plea means the kid will never have his case heard by any court, no matter what; but maybe at some time the court will neglect to prohibit him from telling the press what happened.
Point of law, here — telling someone how to do something like obtain weapons and telling them how to do something like obtain weapons in order to assassinate the president of a country (making this example up) are two different things — even if they may seem functionally similar, and even if someone uses that information for something totally different than how it’s suggested to be used. It has not only to do with ‘do what with what’ but especially ‘do what with to whom’.
My knowledge of the case is probably too sketchy to get into this point, as is my knowledge of law in general … but what bothers me is the apparent compounding of intent here. I may disagree with it, but I understand it’s illegal to travel to Syria with the intent to join ISIS. And it’s illegal to know that a terrorist conspiracy is going on and to take any concrete step, however small, to help it. But can you know that someone plans to do a legitimate activity (getting on a plane) with the wrong intent, when the intent is the only thing that makes it a wrong thing to be helping? I think the doctrines here have proliferated too far, when someone is charged with conspiring to explain how someone can pay to travel to a place where he can get training to commit an unspecified act of terror. It’s time for somebody to say “Jenga”, I think.
Oh, I agree it’s blatant overreach when what essentially would have been dubbed ‘teenage peer pressure’ has become a terrorist act. If anything, what I’ve been seeing, watching these ’emigrations’ to other countries to ‘fight’ (and it’s to go to BOTH sides) just makes me think people want the world to be one big frigging video game. I’ve long said that most people would probably turn right back around within a few days if they even made it there. War is hell. But kids, by their nature, soak up the culture they’re living in and magnify it. That shouldn’t end in death (or ‘life’). That said, there’s precious little wisdom available for them either. I may be wrong but we may be really just watching what the current Western generation considers ‘edgy’, combined with feeling powerless and pumped up with messages of violence and fear. No, I’m not saying ‘videogames did this’ — I’m saying the culture basically informs the video games and vice-versa, and the whole gameplay-transfer thing is a very real phenomenon.
Which is a very long-winded way of saying I believe this prosecution was another example of ridiculous prosecutorial overreach made possible by the ‘legal distinctions’ I mentioned, with no regard for the spirit of the law or the state of society. Nobody even really knows what the lines even are anymore.
(and I don’t necessarily think ‘kids’ stops at 18 or 21 or 26-28 or whatever. I think we’re firmly in an era where in certain places a lot of people never really have to grow up. So maybe I mean maturity and responsibility; I don’t mean just ‘age’).
NYT – “It is possible to discern, however, that the law enforcement officers — five F.B.I. agents and one Boston police officer — backed away from Mr. Rahim at one point, a retreat that the authorities said indicated the officers felt threatened. Shortly after backing away, the officers closed in on Mr. Rahim, coming within three or four feet, before he fell to the ground. One of the officers then reached down to the ground and picked up an object that the authorities said was a large, military-style knife.”
Watching the video, I see several people, surrounding the one who I presume is Rahim. I can imagine a scenario where they are all barking orders, “get down, get back, don’t move, hands up, turn around” etc.
I refer again to the McKinney video, the officer there is simultaneously telling kids, “get out of here, sit down” The ones that “get out of here” are chased by officers, the ones that sit down are handcuffed, and in one case, picked up and slammed down again.
So Rahim may have been experiencing several aggressive barking officers telling him contradictory things. For example, I don’t think it unreasonable to expect that Rahim is told by the officers to “back off”, and since they, the officers, encircle him, backing away from one, only brings him closer to another.
…And again to compare it to another video, if you remember the one where the police car speeds onto a playground, a few feet from a child with a toy gun, and the officers burst out and shoot the kid, …in this Rahim instance we see a similar reckless dynamic, the officers rush him from all directions, one appears to be right up in his face. All the time, if other incidents are anything to go by, they are shouting at him.
Since this encounter was at the time and place of the FBI’s choosing, what are we to make of that? That they have a suspect under what must be the highest level of constant surveillance, someone who is supposedly under that scrutiny because he is considered highly dangerous, yet the police create a situation, and are unable to deal with, a simple knife? And to reiterate, this is the FBI, not a local Texas sheriff’s office.
I think there is some truth in what someone said below that Americans can’t seem to discern that what may be entertaining on the silver screen “go ahead punk, make my day” is perhaps not the way we need real police to operate.
Actually, American society has kind of taken off, where Dirty Harry left off, at a time when American government violence was hidden, secret Latin Americans death squads, anti-Castro plots, prisoners being thrown out of helicopters, long Before American violence was made respectable with Bush proudly torturing people, and Obama taking credit for assassinations, Americans dreamt of it:
-”I’m not sure I would describe Dirty Harry as “fascist”, but it certainly is right wing. The film is clearly a response to the 1960s, when the rights of the accused and civil liberties were a cause taken up by the left. The film thinks this has gone too far – placing the rights of criminals over that of society and the victims. Harry does in fact torture a confession out of the villain, Scorpio (clearly based on the Zodiac killer, making headlines in Northern California at the time) – by standing on the killers wounded leg – that Callahan had previously both stabbed and shot – even after he’s asked for a lawyer. “
http://davesmoviesite.blogspot.ca/2012/07/the-dirty-harry-movies-and-vigilantes.html
After the initial trumpeting of this killing and all the insistence that he and others were planning beheading police officers, things went terribly silent. I knew then that there was a cover up being planned and that there was no validity to the assertions first made.
Glenn,
Why is The Intercept not covering Bilderberg? Scared? Or are you all a fake? Better get your heads outta your asses…
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/diannaruggles/media/glennsquirrel.jpg.html
A classic.
The Intercept is not Alex Jones’ website. That’s Infowars; down the hall to the right…. along with “Being Hit On The Head Lessons”
What if there are readers here who do not subscribe to Alex Jones’ world of weird,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLCKwLF91Q
– but, get this, at the same time think that ten dozen of the world’s most powerful people from all corners of society meeting in one place, is……newsworthy? …..worthy of a mention?
“– but, get this, at the same time think that ten dozen of the world’s most powerful people from all corners of society meeting in one place, is……newsworthy? …..worthy of a mention?”
Well Myers, that would make you a human being capable of thinking for one’s self. Congrats, at least there is one person here that still has a pair and a brain.
Although I must admit Jones was in fact the reason I became aware of the NWO many years ago, now I just view him as comedy. Excellent video clip lol.
I prefer James Corbett, have you ever heard of him?
My point in posting the link above to PI’s squirrel was not to suggest that Bilderberg is a verboten topic, or even one that should be relegated to the extremes outside of consideration.
It was, rather, to note that Greenwald is only one person, he doesn’t direct the interests of TI’s reporters and, perhaps, there may be other more pedestrian reasons for lack of coverage of your own topic of interest than fear or being fake.
When you come into someone else’s space and accusatorially beat your breast over your personal topic-to-end-all-topics, without offering something else of value, you should expect to receive a little poke. If, however, you come here and offer links to information that others find informative on that topic, well, that’s a very different flavor of contribution.
For instance, Myers has often linked to various information, here and on other sites, that invokes thoughtfulness on a variety of topics I might not have considered otherwise. That’s a lot more productive in terms of educational value than trying to bully someone on a site that has produced tremendous articles on a number of topics pretty much since its inception.
@Pedinska
You’re right. I will provide links. I just figured that since Glenn and other Intercept writers are more in tune with the real world than MSM media, they would be on top of something as important as Bilderberg. After all the writers on this site correctly and effectively expose corruption; i.e. NSA, police state, dirty politicians, etc.
Well Bilderberg is where these nefarious corruption plans are hatched. Remember this conference was said to not exist a few years ago by MSM, but because of exposure, it is now admitted. It was created in the 1950’s.
MSM take:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-33107662
Alternative media take, this is from 2009:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-true-story-of-the-bilderberg-group-and-what-they-may-be-planning-now/13808
Note that these conferences are closed to the press. Also note, because of secrecy, if a US citizen attends the conference, makes a deal with foreign governments, it is consider a violation of Logan Act, we will never know if this is occurring.
Logan Act of 1799, “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
Thank you, Mr. Liberty. That is very interesting reading.
I can think of some other videos that require repeated narration and compliance to explain the impossible.
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If the police were indeed, trying to have a polite word with him, I would suggest his ending up dead is a sign that they need to review their procedures. If their real intent was to domestically implement Obama’s “kill, don’t capture” strategy for eliminating suspected terrorists, then bravo! Without a 15 year old white boy and his video phone to properly record the police stop (technology apparently only available to the McKinney police dept.), we are unable to see whether they planted the knife or not (as we see happening in another shooting video, a policeman planting a taser next to a body), we can’t hear what was said, and it is generally difficult to tell what happened.
I propose that all police be assigned a permanent tag-along civilian with a cellphone.
Someone who pulls a knife on a cop, if this was the case here, and has escalated the threat to deadly force has put one foot in the grave. Just carrying a weapon puts one at more risk. A knife well wielded is both swift and lethal. Most law enforcement never face a deadly force situation and very few are able to respond with calm professional consideration when their lives are on the line. Hard to be logical when a large combat styled knife, it looks bigger coming toward you, is displayed. Such weapons are illegal to carry especially concealed in most states. The knife in question unless the man was going to the wilderness on vacation was a killing blade not a utility knife. The threat of deadly force allows an officer or even a civilian to respond in kind. This case demands further investigation and fair determination, justice, for both the lawmen and suspect. My bias is that polite company does not carry such a knife in an urban area concealed. The flipside of the coin having such a weapon on his person could allow his execution even if he made no move toward the weapon or police. Caring a concealed deadly weapon could seal someone’s fate in an encounter with the law and they would not be there to tell their side of the story.
I would think that an urban area is exactly where one would want to carry such a knife. Perhaps he had been mugged in the past? Also, it’s not like he was pulled over in a traffic stop. This was several plain-clothes men descending upon him in a hurry.
Still, this case is about more than the police killing a person of color. It’s even about more than domestic spying. The big picture is that American imperialism hurts a free society.
Chris a knife is not much help most homeboys and hooligan are dressed to the 9s, carry hand guns. If they just want your property not your ass, best to give it up. Home invasion or physical threat aside material things are replaceable and not worth harm or risk. Stand your ground if you have a way out is dumb, cause no harm is the best policy. You pull a weapon for right or wrong the eights and aces are in the deck. America has again gone down a wrong road since 9/11 dangerous, stupid and unlawful. Both domestic authoritarianism and foreign imperialism war at the top of the toolbox of state has become the new normal. America can never be a perfect Nation, all people and Nations make mistakes; however, I believe we can be a much better Nation if we reestablished as a Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is the wellspring from which law and rights (black, gay, woman’s’ and human) flow, it is our best tool to right some wrongs.
You kidding? I’ve been repeatedly assured that once everyone is carrying a six-gun walking down the street, crime will disappear. I won’t have to draw my gun to defend myself, all the passersby will draw theirs if I am accosted and fill Mr. Mugger full of lead on my behalf. Heck we won’t even need courts or jails anymore, all the perps will be dead as soon as they make a move. It’ll be paradise.
The right to bear arms is a controversial subject often either ridiculed or demanded. Moderation on Gun Control is of course an extreme to both polarities of the issue. I am a defender of rights stated in the Constitution. To remove one right opens the door to remove others. This right of self-defense and defense against tyranny demands a grave personal responsibility. You can exercise your First Amendment freedom speech with some abandon. However Second Amendment rights if misused or just careless can causes terrible harm. I border two worlds of Pennsylvania PA and Maryland MD. PA has very liberal gun laws and freely issue canceled carry permits were MD as is most conservative on guns and a concealed carry permits is very rarely issued The presence or absence of guns or carry permits among mostly the law-abiding and responsible seems to neither cause nor reduce crime or violence much in PA or MD. The question do you take guns from millions of lawful responsible citizens because of criminals who care not for the rule of law and a small minority of the mentally unstable or careless? Since guns are part of our law and culture not going away any time soon and I already live among many under skilled and trained persons packing I would like to see as an option a federal conceal carry much like a pilot’s license that requires and rewards safety and continued training with different classes of concealed carry dependant on training and skill. I can teach someone gun safety and how to shoot in a day. The ability of knowing when and how to shoot in a life threatening situation demands continuous training, even the professional can get it wrong.
Well said Fred.
You realize this happened in a country where it is perfectly legal to carry not just knives, but guns? It’s amazing that people try to demonize a person who carries a knife in a land of guns.
You play with fire you can get burnt. A person with some skill with a combat knife could kill several in seconds. Packing a lethal weapon either legal or illegal is a very serious chose that can potential protect you from or expose you to violence, SAVE OR TAKE YOUR LIFE OR THAT OF OTHERS. Using a weapon for protection requires knowledge wisdom and skill in the extreme. Most citizens lawful or criminal and even many police lack such operational skill. Best keep this and the following in mind. The first important skill is avoid a dangerous situation the second is if possible removing yourself from it. Laws vary greatly on open and conceal carry of lethal weapons guns and knives in America state to state even within cities and distracts. If I were so stupid and foolish to carry an illegally weapon I could at the minimum get hard time in some gladiator academy were the big bad boys like to fight and make love.
“dutifully worked in tandem”
Well, okay then…
This video is the evidence that the killing was lawful ? I can’t even tell what the police officers are carrying/wearing ? I have to assume that they were not in uniform if they had to identify themselves so … why weren’t they in uniform ? The police force had an alleged terrorist – someone allegedly threatening to behead cops – under surveillance yet approached him during normal daylight hours at a public place and without full SWAT gear ? People suspected of growing/selling marijuana get their doors kicked in during the wee small hours by a dozen cops in full paramilitary gear with explosive devices thrown about willy-nilly, yet an alleged potential terrorist gets approached in public by people claiming to be officers of the law – and they’re asking to have a word ? Aye, we all button up the back (!)
“The point here isn’t that he’s innocent”. Oh yeah it very is! Everyone is innocent unless proved otherwise. The police doesn’t seem to have provided enough evidence to prove the charges, so he is innocent. And if they accosted him without an arrest warrant, they have killed an innocent while committing a crime themselves.
Middle Eastern lives matter. Working class lives matter. Black women’s lives matter. Latino lives matter. Black lives matter. Add here:
It’s starting to look like another Newberg Sting. Pftttt!
I am reminded of a story in which swedish police dressed in civilian approached a long time suspect (iirc) of swindel/fraud iirc on some country road, the man (Bach) having moved around the world escaping big money debts for years, the man probably thought thugs/torpedoes were out to get him, and he is said to have shot himself because of that.
Given how terrible imo the police force in USA is as a whole (still recall that african american woman with a child in the back seat of a car in DC, that was assasinated by secret service/police for no good reason), I can imagine how the police intentionally provoked a predictable outcome, or perhaps gambling on there being a predictable outcome, particularily if they either knew or assumed that this person was armed with a knife, or some other weapon. Depending on the facts and true contexts in this case, I can imagine how this killing by police, is another example of the police assasinating someone.
What better way as to try and ‘justify’ national surveillance? “Hey, look. ISIS is right here on our doorstep. It’s for your own good that we keep tabs on each and everyone.” Government is made up by a bunch of spineless boogeymen.
Great questions to put this in perspective.
Hello all –
Sorry to be off-topic, but this story really got me concerned. And as commenters on this and other new sites, we all should be concerned. I hope The Intercept might follow up and do a piece about this and other related cases…
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/10/413462238/reason-the-libertarian-mag-target-of-federal-subpoena
If you make idiotic statements like that on the internet it surely will be followed up on. If they said something like: “She’s an idiotic bitch.” and was then questioned by police, I would get concerned, but here they are talking about killing her on the steps of the courtroom. Never mind if it’s only big talk and letting off steam, one must think before making such statements. Especially in cases like Silk Road. In the drug world and any place where dodgy money is involved a person can get killed for being a witness in a case, so making threats like that on a public forum about a judge is just asking for shit.
That’s not true. It depends who the target is. Death threats against someone like Assange or Glenn Greenwald are completely disregarded.
I didn’t say the law doesn’t have double standards.
Did you ask your lawyer to vet that statement to ensure it couldn’t be interpreted as an implied threat? Please see U.S. Code § 1512.
Surely a witness is allowed to tamper with him/herself. Do self-death threats count as tampering, or therapy?
It’s still tampering, but if you do kill yourself, they will probably commute the 20 year sentence.
You’d probably be surprised: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation
I have seen a twitter exchange between Greenwald and Radley Balko on this. Not sure if that means that Glenn will write a piece on it. He’s noted in the past that sometimes he doesn’t if he thinks it’s been adequately covered elsewhere.
@feline 16-Holy shit!
I believe a major part of the problem is that these cops, including the FBI, besides being “kill-happy” (more accurately, “murder-happy”), may really believe the false-propaganda that the public is constantly bombarded with by the government and the MSM, that we’re surrounded by jihadis everywhere, all across the U.S.; so, they believe they’ve got to eliminate, as in exterminate, these “threats” when there is the slightest so-called “indication” that someone is such a “threat”. Increasingly, law enforcement personnel are dumb as doornails, and evidently believe almost everything they’re told, no matter how obviously conflated it would be to them if they exercised some intelligence; but they’ve been so intentionally dumbed-down and “washed-of-brains” that they only put the “two and twos” together that they’re instructed to put together, and not the “two and twos” that would get them to realize that they’re being manipulated, played for stupid, and indoctrinated and conditioned with a lot of falsehood(s) and fraud so they won’t question going out and murdering suspects who are supposed to be presumed innocent and given the due process opportunity to prove themselves innocent. But, no, law enforcement authorities now swallow all of the “hooey”, “hook, line and s(uc)ker”, little or no questions asked, glad to “take down” the slightest “threat”, especially since they know they’re going to get away with murder, literally, over and over and over again, because they are increasingly being sent the clear-cut message that, in most cases, they’re immune from prosecution if they exterminate all so-called “threats”.
Why do people think cops are crossing the line more and more and “overdoing it” to the point of shooting unarmed—again, supposed-to-be-presumed-innocent—people in the back? It is because they believe they will get away with whatever they’re doing, with impunity. They have little or no fear of consequences; and, because of how many of their fellow-officers they’ve seen literally get away with murder, both symbolically and literally, they even more believe that nothing adverse will happen to them, almost no matter what they do. And, even if some consequences, like being charged with a crime, or series of crimes, do come back to haunt them, they believe, like in most similar cases, they will be exonerated because of the fear that most jurors have of going against the cops. This is why the situation with police and other law enforcement personnel going increasingly “crazy” these days, is escalating out of all proportion; and, as long as they are more and more sent the message that they can get away with murder, a message which they will be sent to a larger and larger extent, their murder(s) of innocent people, and people who are supposed to be PROVEN guilty IN A COURT OF LAW beyond a reasonable doubt, will only increase. Thus, we have literally entered a period of worsening “hell on earth” in the West, and it’s only going to escalate and get more and more out of control as it already is. They’re not going to police themselves and put a stop to this, so it can only grow worse and worse, and increase to the point, which we are already at, that none of us is safe at the hands of the cops.
As soon as I got to ” forcing the officers to shoot him dead” in the first paragraph, I automatically assumed that that was the case.
When you train people to use shiny dangerous things and call people the enemy, then they want to practice using those shiny dangerous things and create those enemies.
« Media outlets that had been touting the video as confirmation of the police version quickly noted that it did the opposite. “Releasing video of shooting spurs dispute,” declared the headline of the Boston Globe, which pointed out that the video “is grainy and shot from a distance through rain … the figures that can be seen are silhouettes, and no weapons are visible … No weapons are visible in the footage, and the initial meeting of the task force members and Rahim is obscured.” »
Funny that it is the video that “spurs dispute” and not uttering the baseless BPD/FBI claims. A dispute involves at least two sides, and all other things being equal, each side “spurs” it as much as the other. It would be logical for audiences who consider ideas like hearing both sides of the story or the truth is somewhere between the two extremes wise principles for understanding journalism to be aware of this. However, in Rahim’s case, all other things are not equal, particularly with respect to the power to influence opinion about his case. Therefore, the BPD/FBI and their media cronies won’t be properly acknowledged for “spur[ring] dispute,” let alone will audiences take the next step and realize that powerful actors can spur dispute by complete fabrications, and that therefore faithfully hearing both sides of the story is not a good general principle for understanding the world through journalism.
Even The Intercept admits “it does show that Rahim wasn’t shot in the back as his brother originally suggested (and now acknowledges he was misinformed)” It sounds to me like the “misinformer” was the one making a fabrication this time.
There are a lot of reforms we can suggest: body cameras for the police are a hot one, for example. A different way of confronting suspects might be another – though we should be wary. When people say “get an arrest warrant and take him at home” I think of … http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/greenwood-village/owner-of-greenwood-village-house-blown-apart-by-swat-says-this-is-an-abomination-this-is-an-atrocity . Obviously police don’t have to do that, but the fear of running into who-knows-what on entry apparently does strange things to their minds, and/or the opportunity to duplicate Israeli bulldozer tactics is just irresistible. I know that if in the name of law enforcement I had to legally kidnap somebody I think is dangerous, I’d rather do it when they were outside and unaware than go knock on their door first. Maybe there is a way with high tech to tell somebody is sleeping through walls and to silently send in little crawling robots to handcuff them in their sleep, but I don’t think we like that idea either.
Right.
Speaking of ‘fabrications’..
[snip]
‘An F.B.I. agent and a police officer approached Mr. Rahim around 7 a.m. on Tuesday outside a CVS Pharmacy in Roslindale, a middle-class Boston neighborhood. Officials said that after the law enforcement officials identified themselves, Mr. Rahim confronted them with a large military-style knife. When they told Mr. Rahim to drop his weapon, he responded, “No, you drop yours,” according to the affidavit, and the agent and the officer opened fire. The Boston police commissioner, William Evans, said that in a video recorded at the scene, it was clear that the agent and the officer were backing away from Mr. Rahim just before the shooting. They “would never be retreating unless there was an imminent threat,” Mr. Evans said. The officer and the agent approached Mr. Rahim seeking to question him, without their weapons drawn, Mr. Evans said. “He was someone we were watching for quite a time — constant dialogue between us and the F.B.I.,” Mr. Evans said..’
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/usaama-rahim-boston-terrorism-suspect-planned-beheading-authorities-say.html?_r=0
A Disinformation Production
cont’d..
[snip]
‘But at a news conference held by the Boston police on Wednesday afternoon after they showed a surveillance video of the shooting to a group of clergy members and community leaders, at least one of the people who saw the video, Darnell Williams, said he could “150 percent collaborate” the police account that Mr. Rahim had menaced the agent and the officer with a knife before he was shot..’
http://www.colormagazineusa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=512
A Darnell Williams Is A Lying Sack Of Fuk` Production
cont’d..
[snip]
‘A law enforcement official said that Mr. Rahim had become radicalized by militant Islam social media sites and that he posed an “imminent threat” on the morning that he was confronted..’
&
‘They “would never be retreating unless there was an imminent threat,” Mr. Evans said..’
A More Imminent Threat Production
FBI interdicts Rahim’s physical mail, says the queen’s aussie: that’s not a knife...
Later, outside CVS. Now that’s a knife.
knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxcZBmUzplk
American Jews are an amazing sub-set of the US population
4% of US population
97% of US bomb Iran/boots on the ground faction (aka send your kid, not mine faction)
88% of history channel stories.
60% of US TV/Movie comedians/actors/producers
50% of US White Collar Crimes
45% of US bankers
33% of US Supreme Court Justices
25% of US homosexuals
18% of Israel Defense Forces – Remember USS Liberty
.0003% of US military forces, haven’t been many Jews in US military since 1949
While Jews are heavily over represented in American government, business, banking and entertainment, they remain shockingly underrepresented in the US military. The reason for this stems from the small number of Jews who volunteer for military service. According to Department of Defense statistics, Jews, who make up about 4 percent of the overall population of this country, make up less than a third of a percent of the total number of those serving in the US armed forces. This not a recent phenomenon either. The Department of Defense lists precise religious preferences for the 58,152 Vietnam casualties. Protestants were 64.4 percent (37,483), Catholics were 28.9 percent (16,806). Less than 1 percent (0.003) was Jewish.
Jews expect, demand and insist that America stand ready to defend Israel against all threats, even when doing so may be at cross purposes with United States national interest or result in divisive American public opinion. Yet those who must stand ready to be in the forefront of this defense are overwhelmingly not Jewish. It should not be so. American Jews are much more likely to serve in Israel’s military. Why is this?
“Today, the Jewish state has a greater number of Jewish Americans serving than in any other military including their own (USA) military; with roughly 3,000 Americans who did not grow up in Israel serving”, said Israeli Defense Force (IDF) spokeswoman Lt. Libby Weiss.
The U.S. government doesn’t discourage those wanting to join, but some may question why those willing to put themselves in harm’s way would choose the IDF as opposed to the American military.
“As much I’m a proud American,” said David Meyers of Belmont, California, “there’s an incredibly deep and long connection that I have to Israel.”
Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Greenglass Rosenberg were American Jews executed for conspiracy to commit espionage relating to passing information about the atomic bomb to the USSR. Other atomic spies who were caught by the FBI offered confessions and were not executed, including Ethel’s brother, David Greenglass and Harry Gold, who identified Greenglass.. Remember Jonathan Pollard, an “American” Jew was a spy for Israel.
Their loyalty is to Israel not USA. Remember USS Liberty
Thank you for your K3 presentation. Now go iron your white bedsheet and pointy hat.
How many Amish are in the military? 7th Day Adventists?
[In Dan Akroyd voice] “Martha you ignorant lsut. Perhaps you didn’t notice you are commenting under a piece co-authered by a man named Greenwald? He’s not an Episcopalian.”
this video makeup, reminded me of that video showing those “dangerous terrorists” the Tsarnaev brothers killing the policeman Sean Collier at MIT. They show everything but no show nothing.
I suspect there are a lot of ex-soldiers and mercs (e.g. Blackwater) who, unfortunately, never unwound from the ultra violence. These guys are too high strung for tity-bar bouncer jobs, so they get into law enforcement where the real “juice” is. These guys are well trained and, undoubtedly, are training the newbies. When equipped with military gear, they are formidable… and they don’t give a fuck.
Now that Christianity’s dead as a guide for ethics and behavior, what’s to replace it? Blind obedience to the power of an untethered state violence it seems. Want to know how to behave? Wherever you see authority and domination, immediately submit in the most deferential and helpless way possible and you may be allowed to live. At least your chances for survival might be better. Under no circumstances question authority. Its purpose is to question YOU.
Mr Greenwald,
There is an underlying presumption in all your long-winding articles that we are a lot more civilized than ISIS and Saudis and so we are to be subjected to higher standards of ethics and human rights. This is indeed a refreshing perspective considering the kind of vitriol you reserve for our policemen and journalists. Could you please enumerate the basis of your assumptions? Otherwise, I don’t see any issue with our folks outdoing the rest of the world in all respects as we indeed are superior to all others, and we have sufficient nukes to back our claim to purity and greatness.
0/10
Must try harder.
No, I think it’s just the opposite. Americans often cite their “values”–freedom, liberty, and democracy–but in a crisis will throw them out: black sites, total national security surveillance contravening the US Constitution, torture, etc.
Mind you some of these activities are used against American citizens without due process. That you cite US nuclear capabilties only confirms that some Americans tend not to truly believe in American values having intrinsic worth but only backed by intrinsic power–and the use of powr has worked wonderfully in Iraq.
“as we indeed are superior to all others, and we have sufficient nukes to back our claim to purity and greatness.”
Then why have “we” lost every war for the past 55 years?
And shouldn’t “superior” people not be terrified, pants-wetting cowards when it comes to a threat as extraordinarily MINOR as terrorism?
“We” are so petrified of the super-human strength of “Islamofacists” we can’t even have trials here for fear of their super-awesomeness destroying us all.
Well, that and the fact that since we tortured…ahem…”enhanced interrogated” them it’s entirely possible that their cases would be thrown out, countersuits levied, and horror of horrors our nation’s leaders might find themselves on trial. Can’t have that.
@liberalrob, nah, it’s okay to say ‘we tortured some folks’ now — one needn’t use the archaic term ‘enhanced interrogation’ as long as one makes sure to use words like ‘folks’ to emphasise comraderie and ‘shit, son, we all in this together’ — they’re folks just like you (not ‘us’, hence ‘we did it’).
Without intending any commentary, at all, about what happened (or didn’t) in the Usaamah Rahim killing, I know that sheriffs in my Michigan county are trained that if a suspect pulls a knife and brandishes it at the officer in anything like close distance, the officer may respond with deadly force. I know this because my adult son took this training.
Just recently one of the sheriffs chased a felon over the state border into Indiana and they ended up in a parking lot where both got out of their vehicles. The suspect pulled a knife on the cop, who shot him dead. There was virtually no question that this was a righteous shooting. But my son was a bit freaked out, saying that he was sure the dead guy didn’t realize the permission he was giving the cop when he pulled out that knife.
It appears to be the law that this is a permissible response. At least in Indiana, and is how the sheriff was trained in Michigan. At least it wasn’t my son who doesn’t need anything like that on his plate. He’s not the type who would just get over it.
The instances you cite would be uniformed LEOs, correct?
I wonder how that is interpreted when the officers in question are not identifiable by their clothing and/or have not offered suitable identification.
He was certainly in a sheriff’s vehicle. Not sure about the uniform, but he had his gun on him, obviously. As I think about it, the way my son told me about this it sounded as if the sheriff had been alone. Since they are always supposed to be partnered when on duty I’m not sure what to think.
I’m just glad my son is only in the auxiliary; this isn’t his day job. He’s a True Believer in that “protect and serve” stuff and is entirely aware of my jaundiced view of cops. He’s been hearing me rant since adolescence about how they “testily.”
What’s “LEOs”?
*here in Cantuckee, of course, the high (figuratively and, often, literally.) Sheriff is elected. As far as I know, there is very little ‘training’. Most likely because, in my county at least, in the past many of them could not read or write to train. Salt of the earth.
The county Sheriff is therefore very responsive to the electorate … ie. his kin folk. I’ve known them all since they was knee high to a jack rabbit.
Otoh, some of the State troopers are highly trained dick wads (Some, but not all). Soon as shoot you as look at you.
*But what really sticks in my crawl is the outsider Fed people w/ their fucked-up ‘stings’ pitting neighbor against neighbor w/ payola and bribes in the ‘war on drugs’ insanity. The Feds have a couple of sting ’roundups’ per year to stir the pot, so to speak, and for a while all you hear are the dark whispers about who’s ‘the rat(s)’ ratting on cousin rat. Disgusting.
What’s “LEOs”?
Law enforcement officers.
The Feds have a couple of sting ’roundups’ per year to stir the pot, so to speak, and for a while all you hear are the dark whispers about who’s ‘the rat(s)’ ratting on cousin rat. Disgusting.
You know how I feel about CIs (confidential informants) and why. That’s a tactic that needs to be banned. Their whispers are only ever about two things:
1. Getting someone else in trouble – anyone will do – in order to get themselves out of trouble, or…
2. Money
Someone in my family died because of some lyin’-ass motherfucker CIs who’d been busted for theivin’ baby clothes. Helluva thing to die because someone else is trying to keep their lowslung ass out of prison on your back.
Them, or family and friends — offer not to charge them or reduce charges and sentence.
If you or I, or a defense attorney, offered someone a thing of value or a benefit in exchange for their testimony we’d be committing a felony.
But prosecutors can and do offer benefits all the fucking time. For them — and them alone — doing so is legal.
@bahhummingbug
Some (many?) departments won’t train you if your IQ score is too high. Challenged and upheld in court 15 years ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
If the British police (who are sometimes thuggish – but generally unarmed – louts, according to people I met there) can call for backup and handle a maniac with a machete, then why can’t American cops?
*30 UK Police vs man armed with machete in the street*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5CPx4RKWw
The reason, I believe, is simply because current American culture, promoted sadly by the worldwide elite as a ‘leader,’ does not really frown on lethal violence, or consider it solely as an unpleasant last resort (as most other first world nations do presently) – and although other countries and cultures enjoy similarly brutal, faux-violent entertainment in movies, TV and video-games, THEY DO NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AS A CODE FOR SOLUTION-ORIENTED BEHAVIOR to control the frustrations of the disadvantaged.
I have fam as well. “I am reasonably afraid” is the permissible response. That’s all it takes.
And they’re scared to death of black people. And brown people. And poor people. People without property. But especially black people without property. Even the black officers. Especially the black officers.
What are they all scared of? We don’t talk about roots, do we? Fear of the unknown?
At some point the oppressed minority will strike back, violently, against their oppressor. If you’re identified as being an agent of the oppressors, that makes you a target. So in that sense it’s a rational decision to shoot first and ask questions later, if you don’t want to be the first guy killed when the revolution finally breaks out. Not excusing or condoning such thinking, I simply can understand it.
And who would be better able to understand the black person’s perception of police than a black officer?
Yah. That perception is translated through class. Chris Rock’s “n****** v. black people” bit comes to mind. Kenneth and Mamie Clark’s doll experiment, writ large.
Law enforcement is the concrete end of politics. Political economy in its most material form. Sinews on a trigger.
“Like thinking with your head on your chest”. Is this really a reference to an ISIS beheading? Forgive me for being graphic, but didn’t ISIS in the majority of cases (supposedly, in the rather fake beheading videos in which no actual beheading was shown) place the victims head on their BACK?
who is Rita Katz and what is SITE? how is it that SITE has access to videos from IS?
Yeah, SITE and Rita Katz are rather fishy entities too.
The phone call is misleadingly excerpted. People should read the David Wright complaint (the WaPo article has it). If the statements are real, they aren’t that ambiguous. “Go after those boys in blue” doesn’t mean sue them if you are also preparing your will and destroying your cell phone b/c CSI will be looking for it. Come on.
I agree more information should be released, but if the complaint is backed up he’s almost certainly not innocent.
From the 5AM conversation two hours before it happened:
WRIGHT: Oh, oh wait a minute, oh ah, you are going to be, ah, you’re attempting to go on vacation I see.
RAHIM: Yeah, I’m going to be on vacation right here in Massachusetts … I’m just going to ah go after them, those boys in blue. Cause, ah, it’s the easiest target and, ah, the most common is the easiest for me …
WRIGHT advised him to prepare his will and leave “his possessions” to a named individual.
WRIGHT: [m]ake sure also, very important, make sure that, ah, at the moment that you decide to that you ah, delete, you delete ah, from your phone or you break it apart. Throw it down to the ground.
RAHIM: Yup.
WRIGHT: Get rid of it, before anybody gets it; make sure it’s completely destroyed.
RAHIM: I will.
WRIGHT: Because, at the scene, at the scene, CSI will be looking for that particular thing and so dump it, get rid of that. At the time you are going to do it, before you reach your destination you get rid of it.
Exactly. Now there may be legitimate issues here – in general in the U.S. it does seem like “obstruction” charges are handed out like candy – but the extreme partisanship of the article obliterates any more reasonable objection. It seems like The Intercept has gone over from revealing spying programs to making disingenuous defenses of terrorists. An occasional article asking (onot telling) if the NSA uses readily available consumer tech to transcribe phone calls doesn’t cut it. Intercept, do you really even have the Snowden archive anymore, or did somebody make you give your hard drive the Guardian treatment? I’m still waiting to hear anything about anti-virus programs, home ‘security’ companies, terahertz photography from drones or satellites, countless things that a reasonably perceptive person would expect must be going on.
“Yeah, after you behead that cop, make sure you destroy your cell phone.”
Your argument makes no sense. And it doesn’t explain the discrepancies in the video.
Actually it says “the moment you decide to”, which is different. This might refer to an act of preparation like writing up a will.
The part about the will is not quotes directly… I’d like to see it. Not that it would be sufficient evidence. As I’ve stated in other threads, discussing general violencd against the police is protected speech.
Also, Wright was supposedly concerned about covering his tracks, yet he immediately confessed to everything? It doesn’t make sense except in the context of a frame job.
I just read the Wright complaint on WaPo. Not surprisingly, anything that Wright or Rahim specifically said about terrorism is only referred to second-hand; none of it is quoted.
It also makes no sense for Wright to want Rahim to destroy his phone and then fully confess to the FBI.
Also, who is this mysterious third party? As this TI article mentions, could it possibly be an FBI informant with financial motivation to entrap Wright and Rahim?
I would assume the main purpose of smashing the phone would be to (very unreliably) protect people he had contacted, whether innocent or guilty, from investigation.
To be clear, I’m not actually comfortable with sending someone to jail for recommending smashing a phone. But the underlying issue here is a murder plot and however haphazardly the law might move toward the goal and how foully the prison system fails at implementing it, there’s something to be said for not having people involved in planning acts of terror roaming around among us.
“If the statements..”
“if the complaint..”
“almost certainly not..”
“It seems like..”
“there may be..”
“This might refer..”
“I would assume..”
A Kill Them First Speculate Later production
To arrest someone for “planning” acts of terror is not constitutional when the evidence is this flimsy, secretive and ambiguous. If Rahim had had his day in court, he could make a good argument that he was joking. They were laughing, after all. PLUS Rahim KNEW they were interecepting his phone calls.
They need to release the full audio of the conversation. Where a dot-dot-dot appears in a transcript like this, does it mean there was a pause, or does it mean they left something out that might be key to understanding context? What was discussed before and after?
Law enforcement is now completely out of control. I NEVER thought that I would say or even think this, but it appears that the beginnings of a Police State is in the cards: Check this out: https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/police-shut-down-girls-lemonade-stand-for-121207241667.html
I like the part at the end: “Instead of pursuing the permit, the girls will set up a new stand this Saturday, according to KLTV: Free lemonade, donations welcome.”
Go Girls !!!
I’ve written things in the past that “support” ISIS, and by support I mean that I’ve questioned the endless demonization of them by the media. I’ve also examined their roots in the context of American-backed oppression of Iraqi Sunnis.
So I wonder, am I now on a list? And if so, should I never discuss vacation plans with my family?
I wonder too. I have run IS-related searches on Twitter and done a lot of scrolling… just to see for myself what is being said, what the propaganda is that they are spreading. I am the type to check things out for myself instead of just believing what’s said on the news. Apparently, that can be construed as criminal. I wonder if I am on a list. I get a lot of weird friend requests on Facebook from people I don’t know with very fake looking accounts that consist of one profile picture and nothing else. And I mean it happens almost every day. I also have family in Turkey and travel there a lot…on, um, vacation. Makes me wonder the next time I get on a plane are they going to say I was trying to go to Syria?
Who was in that school bus that appears at 1:20, BTW?
Here is a link to one of the Comments by “Peter” who claimed to have viewed this video — and some other as yet unknown video. He in fact linked to a useless CNN video, which said nothing about this video, but he claimed that millions had now seen the video we are seeing today. “Are they all lying,” Peter asked.
Here is Peter’s comment:
“How was he threatened by 2 clearly identified law enforcement officers saying “We’d like to talk to you?” Would that make any reasonable person pull out a commando knife and try to attack them? What was he defending himself against, being asked a question on a public street? Don’t be ridiculous.”
But as can be seen in the video, they weren’t “identified” and they didn’t calmly approach him saying “We’d like to talk to you.” They’re were at least four of them, and they ran towards him from various directions; and there was a police vehicle with lights flashing a few yards away, which was probably related to the ambush on this guy. I don’t know if “millions” were lying, but it sure looks like “Peter” was lying.
I wouldn’t rule out the existence of other videos that contradict the official narrative.
I’m not sure what you mean. This “Peter” commenter claimed last week in another comment thread to have seen what he described in the comment that I quoted. His comment is not supposed to be about “the official narrative,” it’s supposed to be what “Peter” claimed to have seen in the video that he supposedly viewed long before the public release of this video posted today.
Yes he did. He claimed to have seen the video Glenn and Maz post above. The claims “Peter” made about what it depicts and “proves” were largely false.
Where is “Peter” now?
Where is “Peter” now?
Picking a peck of pickled peppers. ;-}
Ha! Clever girl.
Pusillanimously, of course. :-)
Reading this makes me recall an incident involving an acquaintance of mine. He had been accused repeatedly of stealing from a store because police claimed his image was captured on video (in fact, while there were some similarities, the man in said video was much heavier and clearly not him). He refused to cooperate with the police because he felt he didn’t have to beyond denying it on the phone with them and ranted much the same way on Facebook. Nonetheless, the cops leaked that he was under investigation to the local newspapers. In the end, the police failed to follow through because he was clearly innocent. My point being is that my friend ranted much the same way as Rahim did. It’s believable to me.
All we have to do is look at history. Governments all the way back to the Romans have murdered, assisinated, or imprisoned on trumped up charges innocent civilians. Jesus was crucified on trumped up charges. If we cannot see this as a “non phenominan” , then we are blind. It’s usual and customary. Always has been!
Glenn, I mentioned to you and some of your followers many times long ago that the State was our enemy and that the police state had already arrived. Most thought I was being “over the top” or was just simply wrong. And yet, time after time after time you chronicle that we have, indeed, become a police state.
A short time ago my wife told me of a story about a mother getting into legal trouble for letting her kids go to the park across the street from her house all by themselves. Yes all the way across the street by themselves. I realize this is small potatoes compared to your story of the police murdering a man and then pinning the blame on some made up “plot” to “behead” police officers; but the real story is the state intends to control the populous; and any means are fine as long as the objective is reached.
In 1984 one of the inner party leaders explains to Winston Smith what is going on:
https://markstoval.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/the-state-answers-winston-smith/
The state has been compromised by corporatism, militarism and pro-Zionism, and is being used in a corrupt way to protect those interests.
Cindy,
Are the end goals of corporatism, militarism, and Zionism ultimately not power? If not, what are their goals?
Sure, you could say the goals are money and geopolitical influence, but I would say those boil down to survival and power.
R
The goals are indeed about power, and I wasn’t correcting Mark Stoval, just adding my 2 cents. One could read his post and come away with the bromide that the solution is simply “less government” or state (though I’ve no idea if that’s what he implied), and I wanted to flesh out the causes of the corruption to give nuance that I felt was necessary.
In detail, though, the purpose of intimidating the populace and militaristically overreaching is not always about power for power’s sake (as it is for The Party in Orwell’s brilliant novel) – although this is precisely what now checks uprisings before they can build, and is an integral part of the mental aberration of authoritarianism – often it is the greed for resources that power facilitates which is the primary end motive for establishmentarians, and while this is in a sense ‘power’ it is not the dominance or oppression of others (or breaking their spirit) that is paramount in some operators but a gambling-addiction type of victory that establishes them as a ‘winner’ in their warped minds.
The state is not innately a problem, in my opinion, and its dominance by itself being overblown is not exactly what is going down. Yes, the state overreaches, but it is in the service of a corporate and ultimately multinational elite that uses it like a puppet so it can loot freely and not have to worry about backlash or protest – this is quite different than “big government is bad” as a blunt sentiment.
It’s like with the ACA (Obamacare) being criticized by some for being too invasive on the part of the state, when its real problem is that it’s a corporate giveaway to insurance companies and Big Pharma – and actually *entrenches* corporatism rather than being a step toward Single Payer Health Care, which although quite “big government” would not be a corporatist looting embedded into the system.
So yes, it does really come down to power in quite a broad sense, but I thought some nuance wouldn’t hurt.
Cindy-
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think your assessment of the state being used as a tool by corporations and multinational interests is spot on. I also agree with your statements on the ACA.
Thank you. This article asks the right questions. We shouldn’t passively let this go. They shoot him dead in the street. Then they claim that he is an ISIS fighter who attacked them with a knife. He can’t defend himself or have his day in court because he is dead. Well we need evidence.
Glenn and Murtaza,
You all are carrying on the tradition of Ida Wells, the anti-lynching campaigner, who brilliantly and systemarically refuted the false stereotypes, pseudotheories, and “justifications” used by the ruling class to murder Blacks.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/08/the_grave_threat_of_homegrown_terrorism/
A great champion of humanity and a Black Muslim who has been smeared and attacked long enough:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X2jKv4rtYsE
Meanwhile, a racist idiot cop in Richmond, VA promotes Islamophobia. Will other police denounce this pig? See: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=758244410960495&set=o.237712702942989&type=1
“The point here isn’t that he’s innocent…”, actually it should be. He is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Which he will now never see. It seems people are conditioned today to believe that one must prove their innocence and not that the burden of proof rests on the law to produce. The video evidence is quite revealing. It would suggest that even if a person could prove their innocence there is a video that would purportedly prove their guilt. That is the spin at least we are presented with and supposed to accept. Next time it could be you.
the media love to throw scare words out there, so i see no problem in calling this what it is:
a lynching.
you could easily replace “said totes ISIS stuff on the facebook” with “he whistled at a white woman”.
cnn: “potential rapist stopped by FBI’s tenacity”
fox: “suspect planned on beheading KKK grand wizard”
washington post: “police release crayon drawing on napkin that proves their side of story so TAKE THAT YOU F%&&ING DARKIE”
“because, seriously, who could possibly defend the right of a black muslim who typed stuff to run away from a group of aggressive white guys wearing old navy instead of badges? malcolm x got shot for that kind of thing…i guess this guy thinks he’s better than malcolm x!” – probably david brooks or charles krauthammer.
what wonderful progress we’ve made in the last 50 years.
I think you’re right to call it a lynching. What else can you call hounding and harassing someone of a disfavored minority, punctuated by killing him?
I also think it’s astounding that the FBI is permitted to set up operations where they induce vulnerable people to take the last step into attempting a terrorist action, even supplying them with information and weapons (inoperable as they may be) to carry it out, and then arrest them and triumphantly present it as a blow against terrorism; but no price is paid and no one holds them to account. Not satisfied by pursuing actual active terror suspects (or maybe unable to find any to pursue?), they manufacture and apprehend their own. Gotta justify that budget request somehow, I guess!
It really is sad how cowardly this nation’s police have become. And it really is sad how disconnected the populace has become from its Constitutional, and human “right”, to not be gunned down in the street for being “suspicious,” or “black,” or worse “big and black,” or Muslim or because you “make a motion toward your waistband,” or because you purportedly “lunged” at a policeman, or because you don’t immediately prostrate yourself before any policeman who orders you to, but more importantly because you say or read “scary” materials on the internet or are anything less than 100% civil to a policeman. If police are so frightened of the populace they are sworn to protect and regulate, and so afraid for their personal safety from perceived “threats” from same, then one of two things needs to happen–either those individuals have no business whatsoever being police officers, or we as a people, in our own self-interest should pass laws and expend the funds to provide the police with body armor and equipment sufficient to make their dying in the line of duty negligible. Not that it isn’t the case now as the police aren’t even in the “top 10″ of most dangerous “jobs” in the nation. Not even statistically close in fact.
It turns the entire “rule of law” on its head. It establishes the principle(s) that the police can do anything they want to a citizen, the press and populace will assume “where there’s smoke there’s fire” and you “must have done something to deserve” being gunned down in the street with no due process of law, and that the police are by and large infallible in their exercise of discretion and judgment. It also establishes the de facto principle that you are guilty of some suspected offense unless and until you can prove your innocence. And that’s a very scary reality for anyone who is paying attention.
As far as the “American people” goes, I think it speaks to a very dangerous authoritarian worldview. It speaks to too many unresolved issues about race and religion in this country. It speaks to a tolerance of state sanctioned violence against a nation’s citizens that is arguably unheard of in any other “first world” industrialized nation, and more like despotic third world police state hellholes all over the globe.
But more importantly it speaks to how fundamentally disconnected are the American people from one another, their lack of simple human empathy, and their inability to conceive or understand the importance to all human beings, not just citizens, of a “rule of law” that stands for the propositions that: 1) all people are innocent until proven guilty (not just those in your tribe or who think, pray, act, talk and read as you and yours do), 2) that the job of the police should be to put themselves in harms way to effectuate difficult arrests, and 3) it is only the courts, lawyers and juries (not the police) who determine factually and legally whether or not there is a basis for state sanctioned violence or incarceration upon sufficient proof of guilt after affording the accused full due process of law.
I hope I’m right, but I simply don’t see how the status quo can hold in America with regard to policing practices. There are simply far and away too many police killings for people not notice or care any more. Although, I’d probably never lose money betting on the indifference of the American people to the suffering and death of other human beings in the name of their “perceived sense of security”. Which I guess makes American policing a perfect reflection of the fundamental cowardice of large segments of the American people.
Great comment, as usual. The sentiments about disconnection and empathy, authoritarian worldviews and the ignoring of the rule of law (one of the prerequisites for being a “first world nation”), along with sheer might, makes the US the most dangerous country on the planet. I fear for the world if we can’t get our house in order….
American’s are conditioned to support Israel’s violence against the Palestinians so it’s little different when the police use extreme violence against Americans. Obviously we have the right to defend ourselves!!! never mind if we provoke violence because the snakes would do it to us anyway!
let’s not forget all the police agencies which have received training from the Israelis.
“I simply don’t see how the status quo can hold in America with regard to policing practices.” (rrheard)
The media keeps people pacified. Distracted, too. Most Americans are on one side or the other of the police abuse of ‘authoritah’ simply because their favorite propaganda sources tell them to be, and their sense of belonging is much more important to them than any kind of activism. Making the right or the left wing unhappy is their media-induced agenda, not actually changing anything, and the establishment will continue to manipulate both ‘sides’ into merely believing more of their own kind is all the system needs – thus nipping any united and/or truly humanist approach in the bud.
As an aside, I love the quality of your writing, and appreciate your ethical and critical thinking.
@ Cindy
Um thank you [blushing a bit]. And right back at you.
“I hope I’m right, but I simply don’t see how the status quo can hold in America with regard to policing practices. There are simply far and away too many police killings for people not notice or care any more.”
I think you are right, and I think the status quo will be changing. It’s unfortunate that it takes people dying in the streets for change to occur, but I guess that’s how it has always been. You can go back to Kent State and Grant Park and probably even further…the Haymarket Riot of 1886…finding examples of where it took police or troops trying to “keep the peace” by actually killing people to get the nation’s attention and force change.
I don’t think we can underestimate the rapid development and deployment of video recording technology in facilitating this process. In the Rodney King days you had to own a bulky piece of equipment that cost $1000 in order to bear witness to excessive force being used, and few people likely to experience brutality were likely to possess it; now everyone has such capability built in to cell phones that you can pick up at the corner store for less than $100. And let’s not forget to give the cops themselves their due: they are in the forefront of the recent push to have “body cameras” assigned to all officers, and just as dash cams provided an immediate increase in the chances of improper acts being recorded, these body cams will be right there documenting even the conversations at every point where officers interact with the public. Of course there will be teething troubles and we’ll have to deal with issues of how to make sure the recordings are made available to the public and not tampered with, but such things will be resolved over time and the result will be a much better police force and hopefully a more trusting relationship with those we expect to protect us.
The only question is how many more people will have to die to make sure we follow through.
Post 9/11 Muslim telephone etiquette: Don’t ever mention that you’re planning a “vacation”…especially if it’s a “stay-cation”. A “family reunion” would likely be an even bigger no-no.
Wedding receptions are way out, too.
Why are guns always the first line of defence for the police in the US? I can understand the use of guns if the police are either out numbered or are in life threatening situations, but why are tasers not used more often? This needless killing is an example of a situation where a taser would be a more humane option; I counted four officers in the video, three armed officers and an officer with a taser would surely have been enough to subdue this poor guy.
As usual, responsible reporting from The Intercept. It is absolutely ludicrous that we need to get out of America’s borders to obtain decent reporting on what is happening inside America. With any police story reported within the borders of America, most of us know to take “officials” and their puppet media talking heads with a grain of salt. The questions raised by The Intercept in this story are extremely pertinent yet none of the media within USA borders are asking them. It is also odd (sarcastically) that for a suspect being on 7/24 surveillance, none of this surveillance video/audio was released except for that poor, grainy and water blurred camera — weeks later after the incident! I have no doubt that there is much more to this story and a cover up in progress… we just don’t know what it is yet.
What I find totally incredible, as a non-American, is that in the case of the killings of civilians by police in the US that you read about every week (at least), there is no requirement – in each and every case – that the killing has to be justified in an impartial court of law, where the police have to provide all the evidence, and where friends / relatives or legal representatives of the killed person have an opportunity to provide their evidence, as well.
I was going to say that the media should also be present – but I get the impression that the US media is pretty much controlled by the authorities – and are totally unquestioning of whatever they’re told by the police or government, anyway.
It seems as though every time I read about the police killing yet another person, I mostly read that the police often merely have an ‘internal enquiry’ – as if police are going to arrest someone they work with every day! Just… incredible…. If I were a Moslem or black person in America, I’d really think about going to live in some other country, for my own safety.
Not only Muslims or blacks (or latinos). When one group is being targeted, nobody is truly safe. And when one of my friends from abroad talks about coming here on vacation, my response is to ask if they have a death wish.
Typical police nonsense. They killed this guy under color of law, and as usual, all they have to say is”he lunged at me”, or the standard “I felt threatened”get out of jail free card. Its becoming clear that you cant trust the police at face value
“The purpose state secrecy serves, from SEAL Team 6 down to Boston Police”
https://privacysos.org/node/1752
“Just last week, the Boston Police Department and FBI killed a man in a confrontation in Roslindale, Massachusetts. The cops have said that Usaama Rahim was plotting to kill police officers, although they never prepared an arrest warrant for him. Instead of preparing to arrest him by obtaining a warrant and sending a tactical team to do it safely, a few plainclothes JTTF officers shot him dead after approaching him to have what they describe as a 7am chat in a CVS parking lot. The Feds say the FBI and BPD were following him 24 hours a day during the week preceding his killing. But asked how Rahim initially came to the attention of investigators, Boston police commissioner William Evans said he cannot say. That information, he says, is “classified.”
When we hear claims like this, it’s crucial to recall what purpose secrecy usually serves in the security context. The truth of the matter was spelled out in unusually frank terms by the former NATO commander quoted in the NYT story about special operators cited above. “If you want these forces to do things that occassionally bend the rules of…law, you certainly don’t want that out in the public.”
That’s an unacceptable approach to foreign war fighting. It borders on the authoritarian here at home. And we cannot lose sight of the connection between the two.
Assuming general tolerance for official secrecy regarding forever wars abroad won’t trickle down to the domestic policing space is a fool’s errand. We now see clearly what that trickle down means in Boston. Police and FBI killed a man, and now they’re saying National Security prevents them from talking about why. That should send a chill down your spine.”
Glenn, you continue to be a goddamn treasure. Thank you. Any one of these cases you discuss could be brought up any time anyone utters those vacuous words “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to be afraid of”. Look at how they are twisting plain fukking English to make their case. This can and will happen to anyone. Anyone. With NSA collection and retention, they will have any number of ways to go after anyone they want to taint. Forever. I know I sound hyperbolic now, but I’m so frikkin angry!
The basic established facts don’t make any sense.
So if you are too poor to go on a vacation and spend a “staycation” at home then you are actually plotting a terrorist plan for violent jihad?!? That is some flimsy evidence. Glenn Greenwald makes an important point that the guy may have been planning A LAWSUIT based on his comments about going after the boys in blue. I commented in the initial story that if the guy was approached by men not in uniform, then an attorney for the family in a wrongful death lawsuit could argue that he pulled the knife out because he thought he was being robbed. This may well be another example of a black guy gunned down by out-of-control police.
I believe I have identified the terrorist mastermind in charge of this ISIS plot: Clark Howard!!! In this shocking expose from 2013 he is caught publicly advocating violent jihad, a.k.a. “staycations”
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/06/21/clark-howard-financy-hotel-vacation-summer
What gets me the most is the sheer cowardice that the police have universally shown in these murders. Here, there were, what, four or five police and one subject? Suppose he had a knife as suggested; did they have to kill him? Time after time we see that no attempt was made to defuse a situation without force, that despite outnumbering the subject the armed response was to shoot to kill. All of this exemplifies the utter disregard for human life outside their own that is so characteristic of the police in the US. It is a product of the Us Versus Them mentality that such closed societies adopt, that enables them to see all outsiders as enemies. As more light is shed on unwarranted violence by the police, this mentality is likely to sharpen. Perhaps when some white republican soccer mom is shot for a parking meter violation, the powers that be will decide to do something about it. But in the mean time, the cops will go on murdering, the prosecutors not prosecuting, and the judges dismissing.
What gets me are the people who are ignorant enough to assume, that the police wont kill you for pulling a knife on them.
So, if a group of homicidal thugs approach you & threaten your life. and you have a knife on you, you won’t use it because maybe (just maybe) they’re undercover cops?!
And when the police murder an unarmed adult or child, reflexively claiming “he lunged for my gun” (even when filmed evidence like the murder of Walter Scott by low-life piece of shit Patrolman Michael Slager), the police were correct to kill him? Clearly, the victim wouldn’t have been murdered by the piece of shit patrolman if only he hadn’t done the terrible thing the cop said he did?
“On any given day, in any police department in the nation, 15 percent of officers will do the right thing no matter what is happening. Fifteen percent of officers will abuse their authority at every opportunity. The remaining 70 percent could go either way depending on whom they are working with.” http://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8661977/race-police-officer
And of the 15% who are doing the right thing, how many uphold the wall of silence to protect their fellow officers they know to have broken the law on everything from physical abuse to theft to falsifying records to murder?
I’m not exactly seeing an endless procession of the “good apples” denouncing the egregious lawlessness of their fellow officers.
A couple of years ago, here in Loudoun County, VA, a mentally unstable woman threatened three sheriffs deputies with a pair of scissors, and they shot her dead. The local prosecutor declared the killing justified, and of course the local rednecks said nothing, but it illustrated my point perfectly: three cops have no choice but to kill a woman with a pair of scissors? Really? Can you possibly visualize a scenario in which that is the choice of a trio of well trained, physically fit men?
Not to belabor the point but several years ago a pair of New York’s finest shot an unarmed Ethiopian immigrant 47 times (meaning they had to reload, or used two guns each). The had ordered him to show some ID, and shot him when he reached for his wallet. So you don’t have to pull a knife to get shot.
BTW, as expected, the NY cops got off.
I know. They bother me too. Don’t they know there’s a war on?
Everything in this article would be true, if there were a presumption of innocence. In terrorist cases, however, that is no longer the case. The Constitution nowhere explicitly references a presumption of innocence, although some people have claimed that it is implied in the 5th and 6th amendments. But people also claim to have seen ghosts.
So it should be borne in mind that anyone being investigated for terrorism is a terrorist. When dealing with a terrorist, it is best to shoot first and ask questions later. So the police were following proper protocol. If it’s acceptable for police to choke an unarmed man to death, as happened recently, it should be acceptable for them to shoot a terrorist armed with a knife.
It’s even worse than that, Benito. They can decide to declare you a terrorist even without an investigation. Once, I was threatened with arrest for terrorism by a VA cop because of a snide remark I made during a traffic stop. Because of my driving habits I’ve been accused of being a highway t****ist but up to that point only in jest. And others have related similar encounters to me. Since 9/11, many police have adopted the attitude that since anyone is a potential terrorist (per their mentality) they can charge anyone with terrorism. Evidence is not necessary. Never has been.
Benito: Are you for real? The Supreme Court has been interpreting the U.S.Constitution, including its amendments, since its its inception. That is one of the Supreme Court’s duties. And, the “presumption of innocence” is a hallmark of our criminal justice system. However, the presumption of innocence only really comes into play when a person is being charge and/or tried for a particular crime. Here, the question is whether or not the police had a right to use deadline force under the circumstances. The video is really blurry, so it is unclear what the guy was actually doing to provoke the police, if anything. Even if he had a gun, I believe it would be good police practice to try and persuade him to drop it, so long as no other citizens were close by. I know he could have thrown the knife at them, but that’s why they have protective gear and training. I thought they were supposed to try to save lives.
That’s an alternative way of looking at it. If presumption of innocence only applies at the trial, it becomes a moot point if the case never goes to trial.
Now everyone who fits certain parameters must be presumed a terrorist. Any terrorist, by definition, is too dangerous to be apprehended alive. You take it from there.
The Obama administration has been applying this logic overseas for some time. So what we are witnessing is just the same policy being applied domestically. The implementation differs slightly (drones vs municipal police) because collateral damage is less acceptable domestically.
Many people believe that “terrorism” means committing or planning to commit an act of terror, e.g., mass violence. In fact, terrorism is properly defined as “being a terrorist.”
Terrorists cause terror. It follows then that if five, ten, twenty armed policemen are terrified enough to shoot you multiple times, then you are a terrorist.
Er, were.
Absolutely for real — the moniker is the tell. And I — and I’m not alone in this view — believe The Intercept should give him a regular column. Him and coram nobis.
He/she does seem to have one of the finest high-brow historically informed culturally astute senses of political satire I have ever encountered. Makes you wonder who he/she is and what he/she does for a living. My guess would be writer of some type (screenplays, television shows, books etc.), professional academic maybe, or possibly a disgruntled government operative who shows up here to vent and maintain his/her sanity after doing the government’s dirty work all day long. If not he/she should be one of those things because he/she could be making a killing at any of them.
Coram’s already got my vote for a regular column.
Signor Mussolini is real, or at least consistent as a presenter of contrarian views — certainly, it’s what the current powers-that-be believe. It’s similar to the kind of dark irony Machiavelli provided — and still does — on the art of governance, and it somewhat resembles Emmanuel Goldstein’s writing as well. It’s what our rulers would say if they had any honesty, instead of telling us via Fox and others simply to shut up and believe, obey, fight (credere, obbedire, combattiere).
there’s always a presumption of innocence…on the part of the officers.
“sure he pepper sprayed that 5 year old in a wheelchair, but he was afraid for his safety!”
“sure he unloaded a clip into a woman’s face, reloaded and did it again but he thought it was his tazer!”
i’d also list the whole “ethnicity” thing as a factor in addition to the Green Scare tactics.
Extra – legal America. The FBI and everyone else (witness Obama drone murders) is taking the law into their own hands. What happened to due process?
How the US government/US media trained the general public to so eagerly believe whatever outlandish, transparent bullshit they spin is truly sickening.
Last Friday night Bill Maher made a joke about how the police killed an ISIS operative and everyone laughed approvingly. The understanding being that, of course, ISIS now walks amongst us (cue: scary music). Who could have imagined? The media routinely scares the public with the threat of ISIS becoming a domestic threat and – voilà – their “predictions” come true!
With the increased acts of police terrorism against US citizens, including children, now being a routine, daily event, and the ease with which innocent victims of police brutality are immediately demonized as “deserving it”, it’s hard to imagine anything other than extreme violence (devoid of any foreign influence) getting worse & worse in this country.
I don’t know which is worst: the spins that police/security agencies feed us to maintain control over society or the mainstream media for aiding the “officials” with their propaganda? Both sickens me!
seems like every “joke” maher tells ends up being an islamophobic version of “the aristocrats”.
These were cowards that killed a man for no reason. SMDH!!!!
Excellent, as per usual.
“There will come a time when holding on to your Iman (Islamic belief) will be like holding on to hot coals” – Prophet Mohammed (PBUH)
I question whether the deceased had a knife at all. Can police prove the knife was not planted by police? The knife looks just like the ones the police TAC team carries. Someone should FOIP the police to confirm.
Nope not a police knife, it’s a military clone made by Ontario knives. The police confirm that they have the knife with intact fingerprints and have made public the internet conversations revolving around stabbing Law Enforcement. What else do you want?
I’ll bite. Let’s see these conversation transcripts. A quick search does not produce them.
Peter, I assume?
Also, is it stabbing now, and not beheading?
The police confirm that they have the knife with intact fingerprints…
Florida Deputy: “Planting Evidence and Lying is Part of the Game!”
If you plant a weapon, it would be foolish not to ensure that it has the appropriate fingerprints on it, no? Why do you assume that everything the police says is the truth?
I agree. Especially after the video from South Carolina showing police planting a taser on the body of Walter Scott. They are definitely not above doing it.
Imagine if the McKinney pool party video had been of the same poor quality as this Boston one of the death of Rahim, he was important enough for 24 hour surveillance, but not important enough for the FBI to properly video the event.
McKinney police -”There! you see that tiny black speck? That’s one of the thugs lunging at the officer! ”.
Seattle’s ABC affiliate referred to Rahim as “a Lone Wolf terrorist”. Check.
The BPD chief was quick to point out that they had no way of knowing Rahim would come at them with a weapon yet it was announced that an Amazon package delivered to Rahim was X-rayed by the police. The package was found to contain the ‘military style knife’.
BPD knew he had a knife and BPD confronted him anyway.
This is the core of it:
The explanation for their behavior is so implausible it is almost certainly a pile of lies.
But Mona! They have ‘video’ which was shown to community leaders. Video which is sooo clear and definitive that they had to wait 2 weeks to release it to the general public. (Boston is still recovering and further trauma was not warranted.)
We’ve had people like Peter in comments tell us he saw the video and it backed up the official mime.
What more could be done to prove this killing was above board?
Whatever happened to the guy commenting in the original TI story on this, who swore he was able to see 2 videos of the incident before anyone else, and claimed the videos showed exactly what the police claimed?
He mentioned that Al Sharpton is a friend of his. I don’t know if that was a hint at his ‘clerical’ position. The guy seemed to be acknowledging our misgivings over the shooting in a fatherly tone while definitively asserting the righteousness of the shooting. I’ll wager he’s a local preacher-type called in to ‘work with the police’ in bringing calm to the city.
Oh yes, that guy. He wouldn’t say how it was that he had access to it; he would only “clarify” that he wasn’t law enforcement.
Yes, I hope he shows up here again.
The truth must be especially ugly for them to try and frame the story this way. They had special surveillance on him, and there was some emergency that they didn’t foresee that necessitated this fatal confrontation in the street?
And to shoot to kill rather than taser or another non-lethal method when you have a 5-1 advantage and the person only supposedly had a knife, AND to claim that he simply didn’t drop the knife as opposed to actually attacking with it? Even if everything they say is true it sounds like a dubious use of lethal force at best. Dead men tell no tales I suppose.
‘Police officers approached…’, when they are in civvies, is a lie. Should read, ‘intimidating figures approached…’.
And, ‘identified themselves as police officers’? Any asshole can do that AND show an official-looking badge.
Media has moved from reporting the news to promoting news stories. Scare headlines gain them an advantage in the contest for clicks.
That’s too generous and cautious. We’re clearly looking at the case of an innocent man, who did mistrust the police (for good reason in my opinion), be was wrongly killed, and then falsely accused of something he was never planning to do.
Outrages like this by the Feds are just going to increase the chances that actual violent blowback events will eventually occur when a tipping point is inevitably reached.
The government is executing Salem Witch Trial-style “justice” these days; I have no doubt that they will soon find witches around every corner.
Anybody ever “like” or “favorite” a post by mistake. Slip of the mouse or fat finger on phone? FBI comments would often be funny if they didn’t have the potential to destroy lives.
He could even have ‘liked’ a page he disagreed with in order to argue on it.