Iranians: are they normal human beings like us, or are they weirdos whose foreign, mysterious thought processes can only be understood by highly trained experts?
Michael Rubin, a mideast expert at the American Enterprise Institute, says it’s the latter. (Rubin previously worked from 2003-4 for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, which is benefitting to this day from his applied expertise.)
The reason this matters right now, obviously, is that the U.S. and Iran are trying to come to an agreement on limiting Iran’s enrichment of uranium. So Rubin wants us to know that we can’t allow “political correctness to trump accuracy” by assuming “that everyone shares our values.” No, he explains, “different peoples can think in very different ways.” And certainly Rubin isn’t alone in this: varieties of his perspective suffuse the Wall Street Journal, Time, and pretty much every prestigious U.S. news outlet.
So what are these “very different ways” in which Iranians think?
• First, says Rubin, “most Iranians are nationalists,” and neighboring countries sometimes find them “condescending.”
Obviously Americans, with our devoutly humble, internationalist culture could never comprehend people like this.
• Second, “Iranians do have a concept of ‘near abroad’ not unlike that which Russian President Vladimir Putin and many Russians embrace with regard to the states of the former Soviet Union.”
Again, this is totally different from the United States. I mean, as long as you ignore the Monroe Doctrine. I think we should ignore it, given that it’s the most famous diplomatic policy in all American history.
• Finally, “there is a reason why Americans and Europeans going to purchase goods in the Istanbul Grand Bazaar, in Isfahan’s Naqsh-e Jahan Square, or Kabul’s Chicken Street get fleeced if they are not accustomed to haggling.”
Yes, how can simple, honest souls such as ourselves ever contend with the devious mentality of the Iranian rug merchants? We should stick with what we know best, like issuing trillions of dollars of bogus mortgage-backed securities.
It’s fun to point and laugh at Michael Rubin and his numberless ilk. But as we point and laugh, it’s important to understand not just that America’s foreign policy elite is hilariously wrong, but why they’re hilariously wrong.
What Rubin is attacking here, although he doesn’t say it explicitly, is the intelligence analysis technique of “mirror-imaging.” Mirror-imaging is described like this in a book called Psychology of Intelligence Analysis that was commissioned by the CIA:
One kind of assumption an analyst should always recognize and question is mirror-imaging — filling gaps in the analyst’s own knowledge by assuming that the other side is likely to act in a certain way because that is how the US would act under similar circumstances … mirror-imaging leads to dangerous assumptions, because people in other cultures do not think the way we do.
Like this CIA book, Rubin’s article (and numberless articles by his numberless ilk) sets out to prove that mirror-imaging doesn’t work because our enemies don’t think like us. But what they actually demonstrate is that mirror-imaging generally doesn’t work because we don’t understand how we think. Mirror-imaging will obviously never work if you’re using a funhouse mirror that makes you look much more attractive than you actually are.
So in the case of Iranians, it’s not that we can’t understand them because they’re unusually nationalistic, or imperialistic, or devious. It’s that we can only understand them if we understand how nationalistic, imperialistic and devious we can be. But if you’re part of America’s foreign policy elite, you’ll never ever look in a functioning mirror — because what you’ll see is much too ugly.
(This post is from our blog: Unofficial Sources.)
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IMHO these people from self proclaimed “institutes” like AEI, WINEP etc. are not only looking like, they are suffering schizophrenic disorder.
They blame everything, they defend for their ill fated ideologies on others as something bad.
Who is wasting his money by financing these crazy guys?
well dimwit, when your country is cut off from the rest of the world, exactly what are you supposed to do? enlighten us o enlightened toady of the Cock Brothers.
Tonight on The News Hour James Woolsey stated that the Iranians can’t be trusted because they have a word that means roughly always lie to the infidels. Now there’s gravitas for you.
At what point do these vamps cross the line? When does paid advocacy become involvement in a project to initiate aggression, the supreme crime under international law? Were the generals who secretly got their talking points from the Pentagon while serving as compensated board members for defense contractors, and then appeared on FOX etal to support aggression – what’s their legal exposure?
Not to mention in Beijing, Mexico City, New Delhi or Singapore.
Actually there’s a reason they still get fleeced even if they’re accustomed to haggling. It’s known in China as the “foreigner’s tax.” Until you know what the going local prices are for the items you’re trying to buy, you will spend more on them than others, no matter how good your haggling.
Of all the lousy reasons not to sign an arms treaty with Iran, having a bazaari economy takes the (paid way too much for half a) cake.
This idiot would really love the Chor Bazaar in Kolkata. Maybe he could set up a Chor Provisional Authority there.
Thank you for very good insight on personal and national flaws and falsehoods. Truth and consequences reality checks are not much part of the any national conscience or consciousness. In this we certainly mirror each other. What, me make a mistake seems a core arrogance. It is wrong to tell lies. It is a dangerous delusion when nations start believing such falsehoods and take action on them. When the think tank, best and brightest divine to be oracles preemptive wars are upon us and the light at the end of the tunnel might be a nuclear flash. Conceits and falsehood are part of human nature and national character and policy. This is especial dangerous when nuclear weapons are in play. Reality check, an aspiring nuclear power must navigate the maelstrom of nuclear super powers. Something nuclear goes wrong our fault your fault anybody’s fault, obtaining a few weapons could yield a few hundred within one hour. Play with nuclear fire super power or startup places the Damocles sword above their head. This is bad enough, that the sword hangs by a string with some strand of falsehoods much worse.
Hypernationalist Jewish Zionists calling others nationalists as a slur,sheesh.
AND, here is the state of mind of THE EXPERT on Iranians’ thinking after the deal…..
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.665856
Nice piece, Jon. Were this a serious debate, involving well informed and open minded people, the casting of ridicule would be inappropriate. But Mr. Rubin, like so many of his fellow think-tankers, left or right, are not in the business of participating in informed discussions, but rather in the dressing up of the lies that their patrons want sold. Thus the best way of countering them is not by reasoned argument, but rather by ridicule. If we laugh at them, the public at large may come to laugh at them also.
I guess this guy doesn’t recognize those crying for their Confederate Battle Flags as a part of our national character. He’s an imperialdickhead hocking anchors for boat disaster victims. He implies we don’t have an Imperial problem that contributed to our clear and present danger, pass the muster rolls. Folks want revenge if they lack leadership. Who can control that crazy devil, Lindsay Graham? If he had his way, we’d all be dressed for dinner.
Tens of millions or more being spent on getting rid of images of Confederate flags instead of, I dunno, housing, feeding, and educating people — or paying unemployed people to actually do the removals. Grind, machine, grind.
“Yes, how can simple, honest souls such as ourselves ever contend with the devious mentality of the Iranian rug merchants? We should stick with what we know best, like issuing trillions of dollars of bogus mortgage-backed securities.”
Ha! I suggest Willie-boy had it wrong. Kill all the criminal bankers and the lawyers might just fall in line…
“First, says Rubin, ‘most Iranians are nationalists,’ and neighboring countries sometimes find them ‘condescending.’ ”
I thought they were irrational Muslim extremists?
Oh what is this, make up your mind already, AEI!!
They say that intelligent animals like humans and elephants can recognize themselves in a mirror. Curiously, pigs can look into a mirror and use that information to find things in the room with the mirror, but they don’t recognize themselves. I never know how to bring this up in polite conversation, but I think it’s a funny way of looking at how little we use our brains and how literally inhuman it makes us.
My expertise and decades of training allow me to state with certainty that Rubin and his numberless ilk should have their “expert” status revoked.
And being laughably wrong isn’t the problem.
Being wrong, even consistently, is not grounds for termination nor does it justify being dismissed or ignored in the “think-tank” world..
But being wrong, and unable to conjure up a convincing lie to support your fallacies is inexcusable.
Thought tanking is about making the sale, and not even his own team is buying this cribbed cow cud.
Bibi hasn’t used it once, and he has tried just about everything to try the scuttle the deal.
And admitting you’re a bad businessman who can’t negotiate a good deal with undereducated merchants is a downright sin if you’re trying to ridicule a deal negotiation.
He is practically begging people to view him as unqualified.
I have no choice but to recommend that the Bureau of Experts revoke his license.
Were it only true! But alas, there is no Bureau of Experts, on the contrary, one becomes an expert by one of two ways: decades of study and contemplation, or self proclamation. We rarely hear from experts of the first kind, for they tend to be introverted and busy broadening their knowledge. Of the second kind, on the other hand, there is plenty to hear, because what time is not spent in the bright lights and TV cameras is passed gazing upon their own lovely countenances in the mirrors.
If in Mr. Rubin’s statements the word “Iranian” were replaced with “Israeli” or “black”, he would immediately be denounced for the racist pig that he is. And I apologize to my black brothers any mistaken implication of equivalency between black people and Israelis.
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As for Mr. Rubin, after a consultation with the experts, a consensus emerged that racist pig shall indeed replace his former label as an expert.
Thank you for your expertise in this matter.
You can laugh at this author for an inept post, but still …. http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/17/13908002-iran-increases-price-on-satanic-verses-author-salman-rushdies-head-by-500k?lite
“Like this CIA book, Rubin’s article (and numberless articles by his numberless ilk) sets out to prove that mirror-imaging doesn’t work because our enemies don’t think like us. But what they actually demonstrate is that mirror-imaging generally doesn’t work because we don’t understand how we think. Mirror-imaging will obviously never work if you’re using a funhouse mirror that makes you look much more attractive than you actually are.”
Actually, it’s both and then some. People don’t know how they think themselves or how they process. People project how they believe they think or process onto others believing the same holds true for everyone, and people have no concept of the variations inherent not just from person to person but also culture-to-culture. Mirroring most assuredly doesn’t work when it’s done by people who can and do use terms like ‘the enemy’ without irony. It not only doesn’t work because ‘they don’t think like we do’ — it also doesn’t work because ‘we don’t think like they do’ — and in fact aren’t capable of doing so.
And (my saddened brain urges me to impart) I read that book. It’s informative about something but not what they hold it out to be informative about.
Which reminds me, another book for peoples’ summer reading list: “A Sense of the Enemy” by Zachary Shore — talks about some of this quite well.
Reading Rubin’s ramblings, Donald Trump seems like a typical Iranian.
Trump: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best …They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
Trump: “Instead [of Iraq] we should have invaded Mexico.”
Trump: “I don’t do it for the money. I’ve got enough, much more than I’ll ever need. I do it to do it. Deals are my art form.”
Brilliant article. Thanks, Jon.
AEI and Michael Rubin are low-hanging fruit, but that was a lot of fun to read.
Good article, Jon, and spot on.
Is this as opposed to Ukrainian nationalists, whom we will be training?
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/07/13/general-us-considering-training-for-ukrainian-army/30096063/
BTW, unless we fly these people to Ft. Benning, GA, “training” means we have more US Army in the theater of war as “trainers”. Or targets. Which means if we have a war in that theater then we won’t have time to deal with Iran. But with global warming, we won’t have to put up with as much snow as Napoleon’s soldiers did. (Napoleon Bonaparte in 1812, I mean, not Napoleon III in the Crimea in 1854).
You don’t understand. THEIR nationalists are evil.
OUR nationalists are good.
You know, because of us being so exceptional.
Oh. Okay. Exceptionalism is our ethos. Forgot for a moment there.
I think part of the problem is that the Eastern Ukrainians, who are fighting to get a pre-American-proxy-takeover Ukraine back or just be left alone to govern themselves, lack logos and symbols such as the ones used by those lovely specimens who came out of L’vov who helped the whole ‘overthrow’ thing along starting about a decade and a half or so ago (though since most of that wasn’t public, it obviously didn’t happen). Maybe if the Eastern Ukrainians had something to counter the image of the Swastika with in the minds and hearts of the people,… Clearly just trying to protect their families from being bombed and shot up to fuck isn’t enough to generate sympathy with Americans who are being fed a load of horseshit about what’s going on. Can we get a graphic artist to help them out? Apparently they somehow got their flag coopted.
Well, the Ukrainian nationalists are looking a bit less sympathetic today.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/tensions-rising-in-ukraine-as-far-right-militias-boobytraps-injure-two-police
Coram:
” highlights Kiev’s struggles with both endemic corruption and armed nationalist groups who have helped it fight pro-Russia separatists in eastern Ukraine. ”
Anyone still using language like that isn’t an article I want to read.
*Marking the last day of my commenting here in protest of the awful site changes and scripting requirements.
“First, says Rubin, “most Iranians are nationalists,” and neighboring countries sometimes find them “condescending.””
Unlike the cosmopolitan sophisticates who changed French Fries to freedom fries.
Would those be the same people whose (opinions on) foreign policy is grounded in the idea of American Exceptionalism?
GREAT!
Wonder what he has to say about the people who chanted “USA’,”USA” outside the White House after assassination of Bin Laden! I guess, Americans can only be “PATRIOTS” in his mind!!
Doesn’t look like they paid much attention to the book they commissioned: Chapter 5, Do you really need more information?
“Mirror imaging” is known in psychology circles as “psychological projection”, wherein “humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Yup. Just what I was going to say.
Mirroring and projection are two different things.
Mirroring is generally something done unconsciously — and often has a lot to do with perceived (generally not even noticed) social power cues. Mimicking physical actions based on power differentials, for instance, is a case of mirroring. One can also mirror deliberately (and a lot of ‘classes’ and books on persuasion teach this as a strong technique to use to create bonds in order to manipulate the other party). I could go into mirror neurons, etc, here but I won’t bother (that’s more like empathy).
Projection, though, is definitely what he’s doing. So I guess they’ve reappropriated some psychological terminology to mean something entirely different than its intended use. We should find out what he thinks ‘projection’ is. :)
Someone took an excessively long trip on the fantastical extrapolation train.
Are Iranians human?? Of course not: they’re Lizard People. Why do you think Greenwald likes them? Just find Dogwald on twitter to get the full scoop.
I love whole piece, but the haggling business… that really got me laughing. And not just because the Econ in me enjoys the spectacle of a Westerner like Rubin recoiling at the idea that those dusky types force you to bargain over the surplus (arguably, the essence of capitalism)… but because he can’t think of any place except Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan where this happens.
If he were remotely well travelled, he’d know it happens in most parts of the world. And it’s nothing to do with local custom, it’s all to do with a weird concept of a sucker with money, something about which we in the West have NO IDEA.
Yes, they are so unlike ‘us’ (Israelis & Jews), that they may just be inhuman…