A new report disclosed by James Risen of the New York Times on Friday tells in greater detail than ever before the story of how members of the American Psychological Association colluded with the CIA when it came to the application of brutal interrogation techniques.
The report describes how repeated expressions of concern from within the CIA itself that psychologists had no place in the abusive treatment of detainees were brushed asided by leaders of what was supposed to be a highly ethical professional association. Psychologists with close ties to the CIA, in some cases even involving financial relationships, cited national security as the reason to ignore their fundamental oaths to do no harm.
As one example, when the CIA asked Melvin Gravitz, a long-time APA governance member and former CIA contractor, to weigh in on whether or not it was ethical for psychologists to participate in torturous interrogations in early 2003, he concluded that it was fine because ethics need to be “flexible” in the face of national security.
The report details Gravitz’s response, in a February 13, 2003 e-mail titled “Ethical Considerations in the Utilization of Psychologists in the Interrogation Process.”
Recently, some questions have been raised regarding the ethical implications of psychologists applying their skills by assisting in the interrogation process of certain persons who have been detained in the currently ongoing world-wide war against terrorism. . . .
The following comments are based upon a review of the principles of the Ethical Code as they may be relevant to certain psychological services rendered by Agency staff psychologists and contractors, all of whom are required by regulation to be licensed.622 In the interrogation of detainees, such services may include (1) acting as a consultant to officers who design and conduct interrogations, (2) acting as observers but not actually participating in the interrogations, and (3) participating in the interrogation process themselves.
The authors of the report write that “Gravitz identified a number of ethical standards that might be relevant to psychologists’ involvement in interrogations, including conflicts between ethics and law (Standard 1.02), conflicts between ethics and organizational demands (Standard 1.03), management of alleged or possible ethical violations, boundaries of competence, providing services in emergencies (Standard 2.02), bases for professional judgments (Standard 2.04),624 and cooperation with other professionals.”
Nevertheless, Gravitz concluded:
While the APA Ethics Code focuses primarily on concern for the individual (i.e., client or patient), it also recognizes that the psychologist has an obligation to the group of individuals, such as the Nation. The Ethics Code is in its essence a set of aspirations and guidelines, and these must be flexibly applied to the circumstances at hand.
The complaint Gravitz was asked to address was raised by the head of the CIA’s Office of Medical Services, Terrence DeMay, in late 2002, very early in the “enhanced interrogation program.”
DeMay was not the only naysayer. Multiple CIA officers questioned the morality of involving psychologists in the interrogations over the course of several years.
CIA psychologist Kirk Hubbard sent an inquiry in March 2004 to the APA Ethics Office, writing in an e-mail to the office’s director that his staff had “been discussing a problem that is experienced by both psychiatrists and psychologists alike…both specialties are being asked to provided consultation to law enforcement, the military, and other organizations that have a role in national security,” he wrote. “Unfortunately, some of what they are asked to do runs counter to [their] code of ethics.”
Andy Morgan, the CIA psychiatrist who first raised the issue with Hubbard, told the authors of the report that he was worried mental health professionals were being misled about their roles in interrogations. He said psychologists he knew working in Guantanamo Bay were “placed in roles that were different from what they had been told before deployment,” according to the report. He told the report’s authors he was worried psychologists might start becoming interrogators themselves.
Morgan’s concerns were dismissed by APA members who insisted that “the code” of ethics does not extend to matters of national security.
When CIA psychologist Kirk Kennedy also raised concerns that psychologists were involved in abusive tactics without scientific evidence of their effectiveness, his complaint was “received poorly,” according to a footnote in the report, and he decided to transfer out of the operational assessment division.
The new report was commissioned by the APA’s board, and was the result of an investigation led by David Hoffman, a lawyer with the firm Sidley Austin.
CIA torture techniques, which it called “enhanced interrogation,” included waterboarding, sleep deprivation, and other egregious practices, most extensively detailed in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s December 2014 “torture report.” The APA shielded the program, and enjoyed a “harmonious working relationship” that brought them money and media attention, according to the new report.
“The military and CIA’s insensitivity to professional medical and psychological ethics continues to this day,” says Katherine Hawkins, national security fellow at OpenTheGovernment.org told The Intercept. “If the medical and psychological community wants to make real amends for clinicians’ role in the torture program, they should put serious pressure on the U.S. government to change this.”
(This post is from our blog: Unofficial Sources.)
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Judge Haywood declared for civilization….
quote”Simple murders and atrocities do not constitute the gravamen of the charges in this indictment. Rather, the charge is that of conscious participation in a nationwide, government-organized system…
of cruelty and injustice…in violation of every moral and legal principle…
known to all civilized nations.”unquote
CRUELTY AND INJUSTICE. Let that sink in. These so called “doctors” not only consciously participated in brutal torture, they lent thier credentials to bolster the “legal” underpinnings in order to undermine any future attempt to indict anyone for war crimes, notwithstanding
Bottom line. These animals committed crimes against humanity, to which any civilized nation would convict them under international laws and treaties. In that light..what does it say about America?
I can say confidently that if I knew my doctor viewed ethics in the manner stated above I would be changing doctors immediately.
This is a gross failure of duty on behalf of every psychologist involved – from those working at Guantanamo to those at the APA who said “yep, that’s fine – our ethics are actually just guidelines”. People need to stand down from their positions in the APA, and the organisation needs to get a clue.
My dad used to say to me: “there is only one kind of people” …
This documentary:
// __ The age of fear – psychiatry’s reign of terror …
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hj49xDEXow
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was made by Church of Scientology’s CCHR, who aren’t exactly in friendly terms with psychiatrists and psychologists, but I would recommend it. As it has been repeated already here Psychology has nothing to do with moral superlatives. You will see what it means in that documentary. Psychologists were the Naziest of the all! Even Nazier than the very Adolf Hitler who personally signed decrees outlawing their practices, which, like with APA, were totally disregarded, in fact they were continued and “enhanced” all the way to the holocaust …
Here are my fav lines:
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28:35: … September 1st 1949 … mit Ideen villeicht in Hintergrund dass der Krieg nicht nur nach aussen sondern auch innerhalb des Deutschem Volk …
33:40: what is not well known is that spite of Hitler’s order psychiatrists continued their murder spree …
34:30: … as psychiatrists before, during and after the Nazi era routinely starved their patients
38:20: … not just a few bad apples …
50:52: … Ich habe at nichts mehr geglaubt…
58:05: … and the worst part is that the psychologists will always twist things around … They are the boss regardless of what they do or say …
58:55: … had Prof. Scheneider been truly honest …
1:44:05: 2012 Germany’s Supreme Court rulled: involuntary treatment of patients illegal
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RCL
As soon as you start quoting Scientology you show how badly you have lost the plot. Nothing that cult says can be believed.
Their ‘great and mighty leader’, Lafayette R Hubbard, got annoyed when psychiatrists laughed at his (well actually, others’ recycled) ideas for ‘auditing’, then pointed out they were dangerous. He and his worshippers have worked hard since then to destroy psychiatry and psychology. The Scientology nutcases “will always twist things around” – to quote from their own propaganda.
You are quoting an organisation that has terrorised individuals for speaking out about its abominable practices; that gives its ‘customers’ long-standing psychiatric problems, that mistreats its own members. Sorry, but anything from that bunch is pretty much guaranteed to be rubbish.
Of course, you could always as Tom Cruise what he has to say about psychiatry and psychology…
Girlfriend almost dumped me for the same reasons. She stopped watching it after 5 minutes even if I gave her some prep talk and started yelling at me and growling about me paying attention to anything coming from the Church of Scientology! but, have you watched that video?, even considering that it was made by a group associated with them? Many people did:
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=3hj49xDEXow
It has plenty of historical perspectives about psychiatry and how to psychiatrists and psychologists Nazism was the greatest thing ever, even before and after it came to power in Germany. It also shows how some honest doctors said no even during the darkest times of Nazi euthanasia programs and how, contrary to what is happening in the U.S., that was going on openly, being society aware of all of their actions. Nazis would put up huge billboards with actual pictures of “defective/deficient” people with messages like “should we deal with that?” including the cost to society in German marks. In the U.S. they would not do such things (in open, explicit and explaine ways I meant) because “‘we’ are ‘responsible'” …
In Germany they made the unwillful “treatment” of patients illegal, something still common in the U.S. and many other countries. The APA (for both psychiatrists and psychologists) is in bed big time with the FBI and CIA offering their “expertise” and scientific know-how. Once I heard that USG has become the largest employer of psychology graduates:
http://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/psychologists.htm
“Most research psychologists work in colleges and universities, government agencies, or private research organizations.”
and you will be able to figure out what that means in English
RCL
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(24:10) … six months after the Nazi took power they turned to (Ernst) Rüdin to lead the draft for the 1933 Law for the prevention of the Genetically Diseased Offspring” which allowed for the compulsory sterilization of any citizen who in the opinion of the “Genetic Health Court” suffered from a list of alleged “genetic disorders”. Not that victims ever had a chance. Courts mandated sterilizations 88.8% of the time
: What was the % of approved cases by FISA courts again?
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(46:10) it is more than just punishing the person. It is about breaking their will. People, with “mental disorders” who are taken to the prison hospital do not even have the rights of criminals …
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(1:23:20) Da war Ich Jana besuchend …
: So, like in a soccer match, yellow and red cards may put you out of business of motherhood, because some psychologist (whose name is protected!!!, Frau Friedrich?) decides so …
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(1:31:15) … even dogs seem to have feelings some human psychologist and psychiatrist seem to lack
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(1:40:35) My children mean income to these people, nothing else …
: I can clearly see the same happening with APA
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RCL
Of course, they know very well what they are doing, as did the thousands of the medical professional, researchers and support personnel working as part of MKUltra
RCL
that TI habit of not prominently showing source documents …
From that (Sidley’s) report:
and this is how internal memos became rules of engagement and silently and secretly the rule of law … and BTW they are talking here about the Geneva Conventions explicitly and specifically outlawing torture
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
Grave breaches of the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions include the following acts if committed against a person protected by the convention:
* willful killing, torture or inhumane treatment, including biological experiments
* willfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health
* compelling a protected person to serve in the armed forces of a hostile power
* willfully depriving a protected person of the right to a fair trial if accused of a war crime.
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Of course, when gringos torture it is different just because they call it “enhanced interrogation techniques” and with just a mere touch with their magic wand of word play they solve those issues. Torture is what the Stasi and KGB did, those freedom-hating, cruel idiots! We are freedom lovers making sure there is justice in the Universe, as God asks us to do, you should actually be thankful to us …
“… intentionally causing pain to individuals” and it is all about intent …, so if you “cause pain” (their euphemism for -torture-) “unwittingly” a la James Clapper you are fine, heck! You are a patriotic hero for the rest of your life! … and hey, as Dr. Robert Cleghorn said while talking about MKUltra: “it was harder on the staff than it was on the patients” …
// __ Mission Mind Control (1979)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMH5WgGFxlc&t=2350
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and “HUNGER STRIKE” we will just call “long term non-religious fast” which we consider even culturally respectful …
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// __ On The Line: Jason Leopold Discusses Uncovering Government Secrets
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcE0kOJwclQ&t=400
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“most individuals were quite cooperative and willing to meet with us” … Whom I want to know about are those individuals, like nigga me, who have declined be “cooperative”, to snitch, suck it up the chain of command, …
… “high-level concepts and did not prohibit techniques such as stress positions and sleep deprivation”
you see they have some “high-level” thinking there as well
“the gray areas” … those are their erotic spots and let’s not forget their visual perception is blurred by their lack of morality. To them everything is “gray” like in “the thousand shades of gray” …
You got that right Matarazzo, technically sleep deprivation may not be considered torture. All you need to do is wrap a bare conductor to your subject’s dick and push another one up his @ss then close the circuit with a 600 Volts AC. In that case, you are not torturing your subjects, very obviously his subcutaneous conductance is at fault.
We need a comparative anthropology of such abusive institutions and their mindsets. The Catholic Church during Inquisition times had a very similar mentality when they put people on strappado and they also believed to be their right to know what all their subjects were thinking “in order to protect them from sinful, ‘UnAmerican’ … er, UnChristian I meant, drives”, that is why they instituted the sacrament of penance as a forceful practice in all parishes
Even the Salem witch trials:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials
were open yet “the World’s only superpower, guarantors of freedom and justice in the Universe” (gringos love those Stars Warry lines) would not even thoroughly wipe their @ss with their supposedly sacrosanct constitution:
// __ Former NSA Head Exposes Agency’s Real Crimes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgbJqFrwhbw&t=490
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or even read the letter and spirit of their so-called Patriot Act (its author even publicly admitted he never intended for it to be used as a 1984-like government manual)
At the very least The Catholic Church’s clergy had the brains, spine and integrity to thoroughly mind their Index Librorum Prohibitorum and The Inquisition didn’t call “human pyrotechnics” the burning at the stake of “heretic” Giordano Bruno.
… “‘these techniques’ in and of themselves may not be cruel, unusual, inhuman, degrading treatment or torture depending upon factors such as the situational context, length of time used, and intensity” …
I can explain to you exactly what these emming effing morally deafferented morons are talking about because I have been put under Zersetzung for a long time:
https://ipsoscustodes.wordpress.com/2015/05/27/zersetzung-made-in-u-s-a/
About the “situational context, length of time used, and intensity” I can tell you this: they have kept me without being able to dream (going into REM) by inducing noises and sounds in my apartment (from the outside and inside) every 90 minutes or so. They know that the human brain goes through a sequenced process before reaching REM sleep which approximately takes that long. Now (using their thinking) they are not unremittingly, constantly and with intensity sleep depriving you (they would say in their defense), but if you are not able to have some REM sleep for weeks, believe me, that will turn you into some sort of zombie and/or even induce you to become violent …
// __ “My Experience as a Targeted Individual”, Part 1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ZQurVAV3M
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So, when “the individual is in custody and is outside the protections of the criminal justice system”?!?
I always thought it is the other way around!
When are we going to stop talking about “the Bush Administration”? Why don’t we talk more about that constitutional lawyer in the white house who would consider secret even the interpretation of what is considered to be “rapport” in those “interrogation techniques that went well beyond rapport-building” and who was cited only 9 times in that report when Bush was cited 35 times?
Satyagraha,
RCL
The Catholic Church’s clergy had the brains, spine and integrity to thoroughly mind their Index Librorum Prohibitorum and make it very public by book, chapter, paragraph and line. In fact, when the press was invented publishers were in good business selling copies of the Index (which made it even easier for people to know and read what they didn’t want to ;-) )
I have always wondered how many congress representative actually read or have even seen the cover of their “Patriot Act” is this why they can’t exist without secrecy? Because their stupidity will be too obvious?
RCL
traitors always have excuses
This also speaks to the practice of embedding anthropologists with combat units. While an argument can be made to the fact that more cultural knowledge might save American lives, it also might put the lives of local peoples with whom anthropologists conduct research at risk – which goes against our code of ethics. While APA and AAA members ultimately must take responsibility for ethical choices, I also place blame at the feet of the governmental defunding of higher education, which has created a backlash on campuses where departments and faculty feel forced to make increasingly problematic choices to survive as intact disciplines. Its not right but there is a larger context here that must include some understanding of the crisis in higher education if we are to answer the question of why people make the choices they make.
I’m scratching my head once again. There was a concern on the part of some in the CIA that the EITs might conflict with moral and ethical standards of the APA. There was no mention of the concerns of anyone in the CIA about the moral or ethical standards of anyone else, like military personnel, or CIA agents. How about simply being human?
Can’t teach ‘being human’ — at best you can only teach ‘acting like you’re human’ and even then, the student has to want to learn (and not just learn so they can work around the topic better).
A more accurate headline:
FOR AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION, CLOSE TIES & FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIPS TRUMPED TORTURE CONCERNS
As a former APA member, I have attended various ethics seminars. A client’s rights were always sacrosanct…except when they threatened harm to self or others. The argument of protecting security is nothing short of ludicrous. Prisoners could be picked up after payment to a person identifying them as “terrorists”. Does no one question why we have military all over the world? Or question why drone operators are committing suicide at unprecedented rates due to the stress of knowing about “collateral damage”, otherwise known as the killing of children and other non-combatants? Who is the terrorist here? To third world countries, it is the US.
Regardless of excuses, the APA is not in the security business nor should it be. The enhancement of torture and mind-breaking techniques are nothing short of fascist methods for control. Veterans are being turned away from clinics, they are sleeping in the streets and wander homeless. If our country “cares” about the safety of our country, they would not allow this to be happening. If psychologists wish to participate in this medieval type of torture, they should resign as members of APA and APA should give up their desire for power. It is sickening and, in the past, I have communicated this to the APA. The sad issue is that APA members have not protested this and gotten rid of leadership that allowed this betrayal of what psychologists have represented.
You tell it!!!
Patricia: Outstanding! It is not enough that just those psychologists who actually participated should be disciplined, but those in a leadership position must be held accountable. Maybe the APA should now be known as The American Pathological Association.
That exception is what opens, very wide indeed, the door for our “interpretations” …
USG
The security of the various spook gangs which spy on Americans, which organize most of the terrorist attacks against American, and which are major league international drug traffickers – NSA, FBI, and CIA – is the *opposite* of national security.
What do you suppose is the percentage of Jews in the American Psychological Association?
If you have someting you want to say, please say it clearly after thinking about whether you should say it at all.
Let’s recall that Lou doesn’t think African-Americans deserve protection from police, and when a black woman is murdered by some freak, Lou calls it “karma.”
I believe I’ve said it. Too subtle for you?
Lou, you’re thinking that greater representation of minorities might make the APA more attuned to the needs of those who are persecuted?
That’s a great point – and of course Jews were as we know tortured for the purposes of ‘science’ in Nazi Germany, so they are likely to have some sensitivity about such matters that the average WASP may lack. In any event, a plurality of perspectives is always valuable to any organisation.
Impressive thinking, Lou.
There should be real accountability. Psychologists that participated in torture should lose their licenses and never be allowed to work again.
I’m not aware that the psychologists’ ethics code include the medical “first do no harm” — not that the U.S. medical profession was flawless on that, either. Eugenics, the Tuskeegee experiment, the Guatemala syphilis experiment, as well as psychiatric atrocities like lobotomy and electroshock therapy. (You can google all that).
Believe me, Psychology has nothing to do with moral superlatives.
http://www.apa.org/ethics/code/:
Why not take 10 seconds to look something up before commenting? And another matter: whether or not the U.S. medical profession is flawless is irrelevant. Members of both organizations should be held to the codes, but when their leaders trash the ethics for reasons of ‘security’, it is a far more serious matter.
Where would I find out some context, that is, whether these are simply a model code like the American Bar Association, or as the man in the article says, “The Ethics Code is in its essence a set of aspirations and guidelines” and nothing more. Do psychologists have professional rules that are a condition of some professional license? Or is it looser?
Not that this matters, of course. It appears that some American psychologists have either participated in, abetted, or were accessories to war crimes and crimes against humanity, under U.S. and international criminal law. What homilies their profession may, er, profess, seem not to have prevented this mischief.
Please don’t try to equate ECT with torture, as that’s a false equivalency. I was shown a video in my Psychopathology class years ago of ECT being administered in the 1940’s and one would swear the patient was being electrocuted. ECT today is very humane and is often the proper course of treatment for intractable depression. One of my cousins submitted to it after every anti-depression med failed to help. Other than some now resolved short term memory loss, there were no adverse side affects. I would not hesitate to submit to it if I was in a similar situation.
Geezus, I had an ethics class early on in my PsyD program. I was a member of two MI6-type Army Intelligence units in Germany and Vietnam. We knew as far back as the Vietnam debacle that torture rendered information that was unreliable. The fact that it was, and is, illegal, immoral and unethical is a gross understatement. The APA is a sick joke.
There’s a joke by uk comedian Harry Hill, they say fight fire with fire, and that’s why my grandad lost his job with the fire brigade, maybe Jenna you can get a few quotes from other countires associations of psychology to add more detail to the story, and the Stanford prison experiment is worth thinking about in regards to this and most other stories.
That is an excellent idea. I keep trying to open up TI to other languages and peoples. Jeez! Not everyone on planet Earth speaks English, and to me the:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
was a downright stupid exercise, which is just a corollary of the Stanley Milgram Obedience Experiments on diffusion of responsibility
// __ Stanley Milgram Obedience Experiment (May, 1962)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-F6Waua3Y
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which have been repeated under many circumstances with the same result: there is something very wrong about “humanity”, we are just pretentious hominid who wear ties, watch TV, … in fact we are (the only?) social animals who have such things as politicians
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// __ Milgram’s Obedience to Authority Experiment 2009
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvSNg0HZwk (1/3)
(1:40) Philip worries about his actions …
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzTuz0mNlwU (2/3)
(2:45) seemingly harmless girl with angelical face and actually, quite feral reactions …
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmFCoo-cU3Y (3/3)
(1:40) Philip one who refused to go on with the abuse …
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RCL
The best known psychological association in the United States puts asides ethics and finds a rationale for torture. This is an frightening situation and is reminiscent of repressive countries. Needed; another Church Committee that is transparent. However the profit motive seems to be paramount to the abuse of human rights.
Hi realrand
“However the profit motive seems to be paramount to the abuse of human rights.” yeah, in psychology circles I understand the term is called a secondary gain and there is much discussion and research about it, generally a person will fail to get better from a problem if the benefits of that problem outweigh the negatives, in this way money rules morality.
Was the APA itself actually compensated for services rendered, or just individual members who participated in the interrogations? Are there some who are actually still participating in inappropriate interrogation sessions?
I don’t think this necessarily damages the professional reputation of psychologists. Just make sure, if you are consulting one, that you have a certificate of clearance stating you are not an Enemy of the State, and you probably won’t be tortured.
I’ve only known a few psychologist personally, and and few more licensed ‘MSW’s (who can hang out the shingle here in the hinterlands). I wouldn’t let any of them counsel my cat.
*my cat prefers the ‘artistic licenses’ ~