MICHAEL SCOTT WAS AT HOME last Tuesday in Rogers County, Oklahoma, just northeast of Tulsa, when his phone rang. On the line was a local law enforcement officer, who was standing outside. The officer ordered Scott out of his house, suggesting he use the back door lest he be humiliated in front of the neighbors. Scott did as he was told. He was then surrounded by a swarm of police, who arrested him at gunpoint.
Scott, who is white, 5 feet 7 inches tall, and 27 years old, had previously been arrested in March on minor charges including driving under the influence of alcohol and possession of a residual amount of marijuana. In lieu of jail time, he was ordered to pay fines and perform community service, but had kept up with neither. (Scott says he was injured in a car accident and cannot work. When police showed up at his house last week, he owed less than $200.)
But Scott says his arrest was not really about unpaid fines or community service. “We have to take you to talk to some people,” the police told him, according to a filing with the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals last week. Scott says he was brought, in handcuffs, to an interrogation room at the Claremore police station, where he saw a folder with the following words written on it: “Richard Glossip” and “Stay.”
Richard Glossip is the death-row prisoner Oklahoma has been trying to kill all year, a man who insists he is innocent. A January execution date was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court in order to consider Glossip’s challenge of the state’s lethal injection protocol. (He lost.) Earlier this month, Glossip came within hours of the gurney, only to receive a two-week stay from the Court of Criminal Appeals so that it could consider new evidence.
A critical piece of that evidence was provided by Michael Scott.
Scott does not know Richard Glossip. But he once knew the man most responsible for sending him to death row: Justin Sneed, who is currently serving a life without parole sentence at a medium security prison. For 18 years Glossip has said he was framed by Sneed, who admitted to killing their boss, motel owner Barry Van Treese, but claimed Glossip paid him to do it. (Read The Intercept’s in-depth look at the case here.)
Although there was practically nothing to support his story, Sneed cut a deal with the state, testifying against Glossip in exchange for a life sentence. He did so twice: After Glossip’s conviction was overturned due to woefully ineffective lawyering at his first trial, he was tried and sentenced to death a second time, in 2004. Scott met Sneed not long after, in 2006, at Joseph Harp Correctional Facility. They had cells across from each other, and Scott remembered Sneed openly boasting about having escaped the death penalty by pinning his crime on Glossip.
Scott, who left prison in 2010, had never really considered that his experience behind bars could save a man’s life. But in August he saw an episode of Dr. Phil featuring Susan Sarandon and Sister Helen Prejean, who have waged a campaign to stop Glossip’s execution. “I realized just how important this information was,” Scott later explained. He contacted Glossip’s attorneys, who interviewed him, put what he said in an affidavit, and requested a stay of execution based in part on his recollections. At the last minute, on September 16, the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals complied.
Many celebrated the temporary stay — more than 240,000 people have signed a petition to block Glossip’s execution. But for Scott it became a nightmare. Newspapers questioned his credibility and probed his criminal record, publishing his mug shot and details of his drug use. Oklahoma County District Attorney David Prater demanded to speak to Scott, even contacting his mother, while dismissing the new evidence as part of a “bullshit PR campaign” by anti-death penalty activists.
Scott repeatedly refused to speak to Prater. He was not a state’s witness or on trial himself. Nor did Scott owe Prater anything in his failure to abide by the terms of his suspended sentence; Scott’s arrest took place in Rogers County, two hours from Oklahoma City. Yet as Scott sat at the police station last Tuesday, it was Prater who entered the interrogation room. As Scott later described it, Prater made it clear that he had orchestrated his arrest. Now he would be forced to talk to him.
Scott’s account is contained in a filing by Glossip’s attorneys, who accused Prater of blatant witness intimidation. Scott told them that he was interrogated about his affidavit and that the questions “seemed designed to confuse or trick” him into contradicting himself. Scott said he did not wish to speak to Prater and the investigator who accompanied him — a man by the name of Eastbrook — without a lawyer, but he also did not feel free to refuse their questions. In fact, having heard reports about people dying in police custody, Scott said, he feared he even might be harmed. According to Scott, Prater and the investigator “even asked him questions about prescription medication that his mother is taking,” which Scott says they could only know about had they conducted a search of their house.
It wasn’t just Scott who was apparently targeted: A second man who came forward with similar information on the eve of Glossip’s last scheduled execution, Joseph Tapley, also found himself vulnerable to arrest when the Oklahoma County district attorney’s office moved to revoke his suspended sentence for a DUI, the same day his affidavit was filed, according to FOX 25 in Oklahoma City. Although it is unclear whether Tapley met with Prater, that deal has since been restored.
Prater has refused to say anything about Scott’s arrest. “The time will come when it will be clear to everyone that everything that the defense lawyers and their witnesses are saying are lies,” he said last week.
But Claremore Deputy Police Chief Charles Downum confirmed Scott’s arrest to FOX 25 reporter Phil Cross, later telling The Intercept that, as Scott claimed, investigators had first gone to the Walmart where Scott’s mother works to inquire about his whereabouts. Scott was arrested by multiple officers — “two in the front of the house and two in the back” — which is standard procedure in a warrant arrest, he said, especially as Scott had done time in prison for armed robbery. (Asked if the home was searched, Downum said, “I’m not sure.”) Claremore officers were not involved in Scott’s interrogation, Downum said, nor did he recognize the name of the investigator who Scott said accompanied Prater. He said he did not know whether Prater was involved, but he did tell The Intercept that Scott’s arrest was unusual in one sense. “There’s no interrogation on a warrant arrest most of the time,” he said. “There’s no reason to interrogate them.” In this case, “there may be things on the back end that are beyond our officers.”
Last week, the Rogers County District Attorney also confirmed to FOX 25’s Cross that Prater called its office prior to Scott’s arrest, but would not elaborate. In an email to The Intercept on Monday, a DA spokesperson denied that Scott’s arrest had anything to do with the Glossip case, saying that Prater had called simply asking to be notified if the office “had contact with Scott.” The spokesperson refused to confirm whether Prater himself had traveled to Rogers County to interrogate Scott. “You would need to ask DA Prater whether he did.” Prater did not reply to multiple emails from The Intercept.
IT WAS ONLY RECENTLY that David Prater enjoyed a reputation as a principled prosecutor. In 2009, he dropped charges against two men who had been sent to death row on the word of an unreliable witness, calling it his ethical duty. In 2012 Prater took the rare step of firing two of his own attorneys for withholding evidence in a first-degree murder trial, saying it was an “easy decision” due to the “gravity of their alleged ethical violation.” The next year he successfully prosecuted a veteran white police officer for shooting an unarmed black 18-year-old man in the back.
Such ethical conduct makes Prater’s approach to the Glossip case disturbing to many observers. While one local defense attorney defended Prater’s alleged pursuit of Scott as being “due diligence” in tracking down witnesses, others say the actions, if true, were clearly out of line. A practicing defense attorney with decades of experience in Oklahoma — who once attended fundraisers for Prater, and who asked not to be identified because he still tries cases against him — said that at the very least Prater’s rhetoric in the case has been “improper.” While the attorney did not know enough about Scott’s arrest last week to comment on it, he said that the description harkened back to the kind of vindictive tactics of Prater’s legendary predecessor and former boss, “Cowboy Bob” Macy.
Indeed, Prater’s favorable reputation in Oklahoma can be attributed at least partly to his contrast with Macy, who made the initial decision to seek the death penalty for Glossip and who famously sent 54 people to death row. Known for his fire-and-brimstone closing arguments, Macy was popular among voters — he was reelected five times — but notorious among defense attorneys. He was often criticized by the courts. A 1999 profile in the Chicago Tribune was scathing: “Macy has cheated. He has lied. He has bullied. Even when a man’s life is at stake, Macy has spurned the rules of a fair trial, concealing evidence, misrepresenting evidence, or launching into abusive, improper arguments that had nothing to do with the evidence, according to appellate rulings condemning his tactics.”
Prater, a former police officer, worked for Macy from 1993 until 2001. When Macy retired that year amid a scandal that made national news, Prater became the public face of the Oklahoma City DA’s office as it weathered the revelation that a police chemist had grossly mishandled forensic evidence over the course of more than 20 years. The FBI launched an investigation, recommending a review of any cases in which the chemist’s work was “significant to the outcome of the trial.” When it was revealed that at least 10 of these cases had led to executions, Prater told the media that he had personally examined the convictions and was confident they were sound. “The evidence is overwhelming, absent any involvement of any police chemist,” Prater said in April 2001. “No reasonable jury wouldn’t have convicted these prisoners and sentenced them to death.”
“All of these people have been scrutinized over and over in the state and federal appellate courts,” Prater added. “There are safeguards.”
TODAY, PRATER USES SIMILAR rhetoric to defend Glossip’s conviction, even as additional questions have emerged — about evidence destroyed by police, about faulty testimony from the state’s medical examiner. In August, Prater was quoted saying that he had personally examined the evidence in the case two years ago and “after reviewing the evidence myself, I do not have any concerns as to the guilt of Mr. Glossip.” Prater’s response to new witnesses like Tapley and Scott has been to dismiss them as “inherently suspect.”
“Surely the affidavit of an admitted liar, drug abuser, and thief, containing inadmissible hearsay, prepared nearly a decade after the events alleged, does not rise to the level of … clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence,” the state wrote in its response to Glossip’s motion for an evidentiary hearing last week. To Don Knight, one of Glossip’s attorneys, that logic undercuts the state’s own case, particularly as Sneed was an admitted meth user who reportedly stole to support his habit. “They take aim at Tapley and Scott, saying these are drug users and they’re simply not to be believed,” he told The Intercept. “Yet they want to kill a man based on that very same history.”
Prater’s aggressive pursuit of Tapley and Scott also belies his claims that their words are meaningless. If it is true that Prater simply wants to know the truth behind their claims, as he has said, Knight told The Intercept, “then the place to sort it all out is the courtroom, not an interrogation room with a handcuffed witness.”
On Monday, with his client’s execution two days away, Knight released a response to an exclusive interview recently given by Justin Sneed to The Frontier, an Oklahoma-based website. In the roughly 25-minute conversation, Sneed contradicts previous versions of his story and introduces new details that were never before mentioned to police or on the stand at either trial. For example, Sneed denies knowing what would motivate Glossip to want Van Treese dead; yet he has previously given numerous motives over the years, among them Glossip’s supposed fear that he would be fired from his job, and his ostensible desire to take over the Best Budget Inn.
Pointing out the numerous inconsistencies between Sneed’s new account and his previous statements, Knight used the state’s own words to argue that its star witness against Glossip was himself inherently suspect. “Sneed continues to lie and demonstrate his inability to keep his many lying stories straight,” Knight wrote. “Oklahoma must not execute Mr. Glossip based solely upon the words of this admitted liar, drug abuser, and thief.”
Moments later, the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals released a ruling denying a new hearing for Glossip. His “new” evidence, the justices wrote, “merely expands on theories” raised in previous appeals. “Glossip merely wants more time so he can develop evidence similar” to what he has raised before. The court was sharply divided, 3-2, with two judges, in separate dissents, noting that Glossip’s trial was “deeply flawed,” and that “the state no has no interest in executing an actually innocent man.”
Glossip’s execution is now set to proceed as scheduled on Wednesday, September 30, at 3 p.m.
Reporter Jordan Smith contributed to this report.
Caption: Best Budget Inn on South Council Road in Oklahoma City, the location of the murder of Barry Van Treese.
OKLA isultra right wing and worships both their God and fbi/police.
The Age of Madness is forced upon the USA by madmen in high culture, by fbi/cia/police, and by their supporters, advocates & apologists.
http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story/age-madness-critical-review-fbicia-operations/9375
https://www.academia.edu/13447621/Corruption_of_Law_and_Society_By_fbi
It if funny how people are so a posed to this yet them same people would not want him to live next to them? So you hate everyone so much you would want him to live next to them? That is kind of a crap thing to wish. I say do not send them to prison why wast tax money just let them do what they want. It is ok you do not care about the people that they killed. It is easy to see way to go hope one day you can feel the pain of the family that went through that your self. And then I will be the one to say to bad.
hi TheIntercept
good article! Signed petition!! Thanks that you help saveing Glossip from a wron state-murder. There are so many doubts open in this case and Sneed admitted that he murdered Treese.
Read the book by John Grisham—– an innocent man
learn from this tragedy
Wise words indeed!
There are NONE so blind as those who will not see.
Not just in the USA, but around the world there is often TOO MUCH unquestioned power invested in a few, like the dubious juries involved in the 2 farcical Glossip ‘trials,’ Prater and Fallin. Then we have the divided Appeals.
Why do you set the bar of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ so low in the USA andparticularly Oklahoma?
In many parts of the ‘civilised’ world, testimony from plea-bargaining would be inadmissable to invoke a death sentence. Not so the ‘mighty’ but morally fallen USA.
Irreversible pronouncements or beliefs can be foolish, harmful and destructive. Is there REALLY the evidential certainty necessary to navigate the sea of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ in the ‘alleged indisputable fact/certainty’ of Glossip’s ‘guilt?’
Some hoodwinked jurors have already voiced their displeasure that THE FULL FACTS of the case were deliberately and criminally withheld from them. They are going to lifelong suffer the consequences of being a cog (influenced by the vagaries of group psychology/power figures) in the wrongful execution of an innocent man. Go figure.
This brings us to the concept of defeasability. An inference (in this case the guilt of Glossip) is defeasible if it can be ‘defeated’ in the light of additional information.
In this case, additional information was ‘requested’ but then denied under the ruse that ‘ Oklahoman Courts only deal with certainty NOT claims!! Yet they themselves act on the claims of the actual, ‘evidence changing,’ violent and probably psychiatrically disturbed (information denied from the sheeple involved in jury duty), of the ACTUAL drug-addicted murderer Sneed. How terribly convenient! Are there so many wrong convictions of murder in Oklahoma (see stats – it is more than 6x what it should be) due to poor cerebration consequent upon inbreeding depression? Just asking?
Incidentally, is this the same reason why the ‘geniuses’ at your new, $100000 supa-dupa Oklahoman execution chamber (with months of notice) cannot even get the correct killing drugs? “Isn’t acetate the same as chloride?!” You must be SO proud of yourselves??
Morally you are no better than ISIL.
Shame, poor Prater and Fallin have to wait another 37 odd days to FINALLY get that extra notch on their bedposts! And Trump is their best candidate for the future?! It figures.
Why not get 20 of the top law professors in the world to analyse the ‘set up’ job against Glossip?? Oops, the REAL truth would then come out and guilty police and legal ‘beagles’ (all suffering from the Dunning – Kruger effect) would be found wanting, wrong. Some ‘in the protected system’ would be found criminally negligent/guilty in this obvious farcical/false sentence of ‘a guilty Glossip.’
Apologies would have to be made and guilt of being’ complicit in defeating the ends of justice’ professed. Just admit it, your phony/farcical systems are broken/wrong/biased/power based.
The world remains disgusted and appalled at this continuing breach of not just true JUSTICE and morality but the blind stupidity, arbitrariness and even criminality with which this case (and many others like it) has/have been driven. Like the story of ‘The Emperor’s Clothes’ your naked wickedness, anger, stupid myopia, falsity and State sponsored criminality is exposed.
I am with Richard Branson and millions of other thinking and reasoning people around the world on this one.
The perpetuation of the initial wrong verdict in Oklahoma, is in essence an example of the Veeck Effect (ex Gregory Cochran, Univ. of Utah). This occurs whenever someone/or a ‘herd’ adjusts the standards of ‘evidence’ in order to favour (English)/favor (USA) a preferred outcome. It would appear that Oklahoman AG’s are masterful at this as well as the guiding of group/individual confabulation?
Homo naledi had a brain the size of an orange. What is excuse of the Oklahomans?
Julius Caesar (1st century BC) was correct when he said that “All bad precedents began as justifiable measures,” as quoted in Sallust’s Conspiracy of Cataline. Now is the time for the State of Oklahoma to admit its guilt and complicity in its series of bad/false and farcical decisions apropos this sad case. Make wrongs right. We expect no less.
hi anonymous
you are so definitly right! John Gishams books are so hard and he’s also so right. And I would also suggest all us-citizens to read the books by Ken Follet. There they would read the truth about all what’s going on here and that these downings of TWA800, MH17, MH370, Air Asia, these Drone-murderings, the WW3 are longly being planned to wipe out human beings in Europe, Germany and other countries to establish a new human race that will be more easy to govern!!
That’s everything behind this. We need to fight harder to get all these corrupted politicians in USA, GB, F, Israel, Jordania, Saudi-Arabia, Iran, Irak, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Thailand, North- and South-Korea, Japan, China, Russia, New Zealand, Autralia and Indonesia jailed with lifelong sentences.
Because in these downed planes, they killed nearly one thousand innocent passengers, which had no chance. And these downings were another kind of death-penalty without fair trail! Then these drone-murderers are a second kind of death-penalty without fair trail.
And these death-penalties with lethal injection, poisoness gas, shooting and other things are a third death-penalty without fair trial. Because Glossip is not the only case. This woman Georgia is a second case and there exist so many more!
That’s a definite case for pressureing the USA to abolish death-penalty and to pressure the USA helping abolishing death-penalty worldwide on this planet!
Death-penalty does not serve any purpose!
Its simple…how can a plea bargain be struck with the actual murderer and give him life in prison and then execute the supposed instigator of the murderer based on the testimony of the actual murderer since hey…..the real murderer could have refused to commit the murder….correct…..
and since there are witnesses who state that the true and actual murderer lied and set up Richard Glossip how can anyone stand by and execute Richard Glossip.
Time for them to accept responsibility for their mistake before they make an even bigger mistake…executing an innocent man…..
Smarten up governor of Oklahoma and all in the justice department…..admit your wrong before its too late…..when the two witnesses are harassed I believe that every american knows that the witnesses are telling the truth and if you execute Richard Glossip you are guilty of his murder and should be executed…
There ARE Universal Laws and Truths that are above those of very fallible man. We don’t see things as they are; we see them as we are. The tragedy in the heinous murder of Barry Van Treese turned into criminal State sanctioned farce, with many mock trials and repeated execution dates has only deepened. Those involved in this continued travesty of JUSTICE, HAVE been weighed ‘in the eternal scales of truth and justice’ and again found severely wanting. Describing yourselves as the ‘Land of the Free’ is a tad presumptuous and misleading ‘advertising.’ The apparently rather dubious Macy and Prater have forced a certain false agenda. To many, it is the criminality of the Oklahoman ‘police/legal’ systems that should be on trial here. Again, what is the physical evidence of the involvement of Glossip? Oops, the ‘fascist system’ conveniently destroyed the ‘evidence.’ How can the system deliberately and systematically withhold vital evidence from the simple folk involved in jury duty? Please explain how this is a) legal and b) permitted? This same degenerate ‘system’ will not consider the evidence of Sneed’s own daughter nor that of Scott nor Tapley. Yet via a cerebral shortcut, it considers the 8+ versions of the ACTUAL murderer. The world has noted your continued myopic, ‘fascist’, degenerate and truth averting ‘legalized’ games. We are not impressed. The Oklahoman Republican ‘Gestapo’ may be rejoicing and probably think that they have ‘won’ yet another round. But they are again wrong. For, the USA version of your twisted, ‘fascist’, truth denying ‘quasi-legal’ games merely erodes your OWN liberties. This is only a ‘Pyrrhic victory.’ It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the physical eye. Oklahoma has certainly proved that the ‘truth’ is invisible to their jaundiced and truth averting eyes Dudley is not going to like this, but I repeat it. In 2014, a study by THE USA NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES (for Barry, that means it is a distinguished body of HIS OWN PEOPLE – I typed that slowly so that he could get it) found that AT LEAST 4% of people sentenced to death IN THE USA ARE INNOCENT. You all must be SO PROUD OF THIS! Congratulations Oklahoma on keeping the statistic ‘alive! You can now all go back to cleaning your sub-machine guns, for which you have your ‘appropriate’ 1776 Right.
Why have dishonest ‘claims’ not corroborated by evidence again ‘won’ the day in your rather dubious courts??
Great comments, I concur and enjoy reading them.
Thanks for the E-mails.
I wish i could say more.
Pray.
A thought—suspect —is a word.
Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin halted the execution of Richard Glossip at the last minute on Wednesday after prison officials tried to go forward with the wrong drugs, officials said.
The stunning announcement came about an hour after the U.S. Supreme Court refused to stop the execution of Glossip, whose case drew a call for mercy from Pope Francis earlier in the day. The execution was rescheduled for Nov. 6.
“Last minute questions were raised today about Oklahoma’s execution protocol and the chemicals used for lethal injection,” Fallin said in a statement.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/lethal-injection/pope-francis-tries-stop-richard-glossips-oklahoma-execution-n436166
So it’s not about his guilt or innocence, just the execution method. How nice.
Even so, maybe his defense team can find something with which to attack the verdict and sentence itself.
@coram nobis
“Even so, maybe his defense team can find something with which to attack the verdict and sentence itself.”
Yes, one can only hope against hope at this point…
hi coram nobis
I hope the same. I also hope, that his defence-team will find more evidence to attack this verdict and to stop death-penalty not only in USA but worldwide once and for good!
We here in Germany and Europe do not have death-penalty as this violates not only german but european and international law. And this death-penalty in USA also violates the us-Constitution!
USA: abolish death-penalty! USA: help abolishing death-penalty worldwide!
I encourage everyone to look up the recent, public claims by Wayne Fournerat, Mr. Glossip’s attorney in the 1990s.
His claims bring up elements of the case that I haven’t seen mentioned on any other website.
However surprising and uncommon Mr. Fournerat’s claims might be, their public and forceful nature makes them quite arresting and food-for-thought.
Consider that source. He’s the disbarred attorney that did such a thoroughly awful job defending Glossip that an appellate court ruled Glossip basically didn’t have a first trial at all.
Then consider how ridiculous the story is. Drug dealers had a man killed? Or killed him themselves? And yet never bothered to get their money out of his trunk, the supposed reason for killing him.
Now think about how deeply offensive it is for a descredited incompetent attorney to be blaming the VICTIM of the brutal murder his client was convicted of.
Shameless doesn’t begin to describe him or what he’s saying.
I find it odd that Mr. Prater would simply dismiss Scott and Tapley as “inherently suspicious”, and call into question their character, when it was the testimony of someone exactly like them that put Glossip on Death Row in the first place.
My thoughts exactly
Signed! great work Intercept!
The governor of Oklahoma has stepped in at the last minute to issue a thirty-seven day stay of execution for Richard Glossip.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/lethal-injection/pope-francis-tries-stop-richard-glossips-oklahoma-execution-n436166
That’s another month to prove his innocence. Justin Sneed murder Barry Van Treese. He admitted it. He also appears to have lied in implicating hid former supervisor in an effort to avoid the death penalty himself. Oklahoma’s been trying to aid and abet a second murder by Sneed, who’s undoubtedly laughing his ass off at having successfully hoodwinked prosecutors for nearly two decades.
18 years. A 2 week stay. A 37 day stay. No rush.
Wow, you seem like you’re actually disappointed that Glossip didn’t die today. Who’s the one with murder in the heart?
You obviously haven’t bothered to read what I’ve posted here, so I don’t see any point in repeating myself yet again. BTW..there’s no DP in my state. That didn’t happen magically or overnight. You’re welcome .
After all my arguents, I highly appreciate the intervention of pope Francis:
http://ktul.com/news/local/governors-office-receives-letter-on-behalf-of-pope-francis-on-glossip-execution
I deeply pray that pope Francis will manage to get Glossip off execution!
With all due respect, Sister Jean, NO the whole world does not ” know Richard Glossip is innocent,” and again, with all due respect, I find it troubling your prayers today don’t extend to the family of the only completely innocent victim in this case- the brutally murdered Mr. Barry Van Neese.
@ Julie
I want you to read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michele-somerville/richard-glossip-execution_b_8216582.html
and now think twice!
@ Julie
And I also want you to read this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/29/1425940/-The-extremely-shady-push-behind-Oklahoma-s-scheduled-Wednesday-execution-of-Richard-Glossip
And now make up your mind and look into this, that this case has so many open doubts, that there is no other way than changing this sentence to lifelong and granting Glossip a new fair trial!
Because Glossip shall dy only for political reasons of Sneeds family and Sneed has been prooven as lier!
@ Julie:
If you will read the public Web testimony of Wayne Fournerat, Richard Glossip’s first attorney, you will learn that Mr. Van Treese ( not Neese) might not have been a ‘completely innocent victim’.
Seems like Van Treese might have played rough too but lost.
See above on whacky ex-attorney, , and you’re right about spelling. Auto correct sucks and not being able to edit after posting sucks too as does typing on a smartphone.
@ Julie
happy update: you lost your bet!! Execution is halted!! Look here:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/30/richard-glossip-oklahoma-execution
“Oklahoma governor stays execution of Richard Glossip amid drug concerns”
“Order comes an hour after US supreme court denies last-minute appeal over new evidence Glossip’s attorneys allege show he was framed for murder of boss”
“Oklahoma governor Mary Fallin has issued a stay of execution for Richard Glossip amid concerns over one of the drugs to be used to put him to death.”
“The order came an hour after the US supreme court denied a last-minute appeal alleging that new evidence showed Glossip was framed by the actual killer. ”
“Outside the prison in McAlester, Glossip’s family were visibly upset at hearing of the supreme court’s refusal to issue a reprieve, local media reported. Attorney Don Knight told the crowd: “There’s nothing more we can do … Everyone knows. The world knows that Richard Glossip is innocent.” ”
“About 30 people also gathered in front of the Oklahoma governor’s mansion to protest the execution.”
“The protesters held signs that read “Don’t Kill For Me, Stop Executions” and “Save Richard Glossip”.”
“Glossip, who has maintained his innocence, was convicted twice of orchestrating the beating death of Barry Van Treese, the owner of the Oklahoma City motel where Glossip worked. But Glossip claims he was framed by Justin Sneed, who is serving a life sentence and was the state’s key witness against Glossip in two separate trials.”
“Just hours before Glossip was originally to be put to death on 16 September the Oklahoma court of criminal appeals granted a two-week reprieve to review his claims of new evidence in the case, including another inmate’s assertion that he overheard Sneed admit to framing Glossip.”
Andrea…what bet?
I don’t rely on others’ reporting to form my opinion about anything, much less something as involved and complex as this case’s legal history. I have read literally ALL the original sources available online. All of them.
I don’t seem to fit in the slots folks keep wanting to push me into. I think Richard Glossip is guilty. I think the jury had enough information to reach the correct verdict of guilt. I think Sneed told the truth about Glossip asking him to murder Van Treese, and that little else he testified to about details was truthful at all.
I ALSO think Glossip did not receive a fair trial. I agree with the concerns of the appellate judge who thought the State’s posters remaining up through the testimony of multiple witnesses was highly prejudicial, and that the trial judge’s refusal to allow defense counsel to preserve the posters for the appellate record was completely outrageous and smacked of bias.
I think that the penalty phase of his trial #2 was fundamentally tainted by Choi’s false testimony, and I disagree with the appellate court that her testimony didn’t influence the jury’s penalty decision deliberations.
I think the DP should be abolished because it is impossible to administer it fairly for reasons too numerous to list here. In Glossip’s case I think the DP should be taken off the table NOT because he is innocent- I don’t think he is- but because I think that the State has forfeited the “right” to execute Glossip because the State has direct involvement in denying Glossip his constitional right to a fair trial.
You forget that this is a Death penalty. If a state/country want to exercise the death penalty they should exercise great responsibility to ensure that the correct execution is carried out. Do you really think only people in your country is watching this tragedy unfold? I am from another country and so a few friends from others. Everyone’s eyes are on this case.
In a videotaped interview with detectives on January 8, 1997, Mr. Glossip denied knowing anything about Sneed’s involvement in the killing of Van Treese. Soon after, Richard Glossip began selling his possessions and told people he was leaving town. Searches of Glossip’s place an person revealed he possessed approximately $1,200.00 in cash, which he claimed was money from vending machines proceeds. Richard’s girlfriend, D-Anna Wood, testified that the money was for breast implants for her birthday. She had earlier told the desk clerk Billye Hooper that “Rich” had promised her an engagement ring, a Camaro, a boob job and a baby by the time she was 25.
Richard said the money was to hire an attorney, even though he hadn’t been arrested yet. Justin Sneed also possessed approximately $1,700.00 in cash.
In his second interview, Glossip told police that Sneed did in fact tell him that he killed Van Treese. Richard Glossip then denies ever going into Room 102, but does say he assisted with repairing the window. He said he never saw Van Treese’s body in the room.
Richard Glossip’s finger prints weren’t found anywhere in the room or the window he said he helped repair.
On January 6, 1997, Mr. Van Treese, the motel owner, audited the books for the Oklahoma City motel managed by Richard Glossip and discovered $6,101.92 in shortages. Mrs. Van Treese testified that her husband intended to confront Richard Glossip about these shortages.
William Bender, the manager of the Tulsa motel, also owned by Mr. Van Treese, testified that Mr. Van Treese told Glossip he had until the next day to come up with the missing receipts and a week to get the missing registration cards in order. Mr. Van Treese was on his way to the Oklahoma City motel to look into the rooms being remodeled by Richard Glossip.
On the evening of January 6, 1997 Glossip came to the room of Justin Sneed and asked Sneed to kill Mr. Van Treese. Glossip said that if Van Treese inspected the rooms in the morning he would find that none of the remodeling work had been done and both of them would be out of jobs. Glossip promised Sneed money to murder Van Treese. Richard also said he wanted Mr. Van Treese out of the way so he could persuade Mrs. Van Treese to let him manage both motels and to hide the fact that repairs on the motel hadn’t been done.
This is why he is 100% responsible for the murder of Mr. Van Treese.
This is why he is being executed today.
hiThe Truth
you deliver arguments yourself, that this execution will not take place:
1. “Richard Glossip’s finger prints weren’t found anywhere in the room or the window he said he helped repair.”
2. “Richard Glossip then denies ever going into Room 102, but does say he assisted with repairing the window. He said he never saw Van Treese’s body in the room.”
3. “On January 6, 1997, Mr. Van Treese, the motel owner, audited the books for the Oklahoma City motel managed by Richard Glossip and discovered $6,101.92 in shortages. Mrs. Van Treese testified that her husband intended to confront Richard Glossip about these shortages.”
And for this point:
“On the evening of January 6, 1997 Glossip came to the room of Justin Sneed and asked Sneed to kill Mr. Van Treese.”
there is exactly no proove, because prooves have been destroyed in this case as shown further down…
So there is way too much doubt open in this case and Oklahoma is to be pressured to halt this execution and change sentence into lifelong and give Glossip a new fair trial. Also these destroyed prooves have to be re-created:
http://www.okcfox.com/story/30038221/fox-25-investigation-state-destroyed-evidence-in-glossip-case-before-any-appeal-was-decided
What is done here by Oklahoma, the jury and the Oklahoma-courts, is completely illegal!!
Why is there no public outcry and hysteria about the impending execution in VA of a convicted child-rapist and serial killer?
If you believe the DP is wrong, shouldn’t you be appalled by all executions, even if you believe in their guilt and even despite their crimes?
Why? Because advocacy is a political process and Glossip’s optics are an easier and more effective anti-DP sell than the sordid story of a child-rapist-killer.
hi Julie
to your question:
“Why is there no public outcry and hysteria about the impending execution in VA of a convicted child-rapist and serial killer?”
There is… And there is also outcry on the cases of Raif Badawi and others in Saudi-Arabia! Our european government is doeing hardship, to get him out. But the saudi-arabian government doesn’t play with us. That’s the problem!
And let me say one thing more to make you think:
Do you remember the last three highly illegal Irak-Wars?? And did you know, that your own us-government and the shadow-government consisting of Blackrock, Blackstone, Goldman-Sachs and Lehmanbrothers did genozide on many innocent populations only because trying to get cruedoil without paying for it from Irak??
And did you hear the story about the cases of MH17, MH370 and Air Asia, where your us-government togehter with the russian government, the australian government as wells as with the maledive governemnt killed down more than one thousand innocent passengers??
So one question: who did the bigger crime: the us-government and this highly criminal us-shadowgovernment or Glossip??
@ Julie
So I honestly have to say: if somebody needs to be executed (I stricktly oppose on death-penalty at all!!), then this is these highly criminal people from your us-secret services, from your us-government, from this shadow-government, which also puts a highly dangerous threat here on us germans with stationing newly constructed nuclear weapons agains the clear will of the german population!!
This could easily end up in a WW3 and this would mean a nucelar world War!! And who would benefit??
The answer is this: the us-administration, the us-military, the us-secret services, Blackrock, Blackstone, Goldman-Sachs, Lehmanbrothers!
And this has caused a big threat agains us germans from the russians!! So: who is the bigger threat?? Glossip?? Or your own highly criminal us-government??
@ Julie
and to say soemthing more: such things can luckily not happen here in Europe or Germany, because death-penalty has longly been abolished here in Europe and Germany. Europe and Germany see death-penalty as illegal, violating european and international law (article 3 UN Human rights Charta and article 6 UN civil packt).
So I urge the US to also abolish death-penalty and help to ban death-penalty from this planet forever! Death-penalty is deep middleage, cruel, barbaric, insane, inhumane, unchristian!
And this is the next point, why I urge Oklahoma to stop this execution and to step back from this highly illegal state-murder as well as granting Glossip a fair trial where ALL evidences are acknowledged!!
Because as you can read here:
http://www.okcfox.com/story/30038221/fox-25-investigation-state-destroyed-evidence-in-glossip-case-before-any-appeal-was-decided
evidences in this case have been destroyed for personel and political reasons!
And as last point: Death-penalty is NEVER a solution! This does not stop crime at all as the USA should already have learned.
Yes, the death penalty is always wrong. Murdering people to show that murder is wrong just doesn’t make sense.
The distinction with Glossip is that his death strengthens the argument against capital punishment AS A WHOLE. Because it shows that the death penalty doesn’t just kill the guilty (which we knew) — it doesn’t just kill people with bad lawyers who aren’t well represented (which we also knew) — it kills even people who have zero real evidence against them — and in order to kill those people with minimal fuss, the government is willing to arrest those who speak any inconvenient fact that detracts from their sick little ritual, just in order to intimidate someone somewhere who might speak out.
That’s significant.
What isn’t significant, but is also true, is that when we really find someone’s actions despicable (as all those who oppose the death penalty will tend to think of a child rapist/killer) sometimes we neglect to do what is right. We’re not getting paid, we don’t always feel like saying something makes a difference, and if our only duty here is moral, well, we’re not necessarily saints. (well, Sister Prejean, sometime not so far off from now I would wager, but she’s special)
Though I live outside of the USA, I just called Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin’s office at
+1-405-521-2342.
I was able to leave a message requesting a 60 day-stay in favor of Mr. Glossip.
That took only one minute of my time.
@ christiann:
‘That took only one minute of my time.’
Will anybody else give calling Fallin’s office a try, please?
I don’t know if this man is guilty or innocent. It seems that only two people know for sure. Him and the man who implicated him in the killing of an innocent man
Would a man who murdered another man lie to stay out of Death Row?
Highly likely.
Should someone be convicted based on the evidence of such a man?
No. Not unless there is other compelling evidence. Apparently, there wasn’t.
This man has been found guilty, but the thing that really bothers me is the fact that two experienced judges thought that there were serious flaws in his trial. They were in a minority. A slim minority of 3 to 2.
That alone would, I feel, move anyone to think that, at the very least, this execution should be commuted. Whether or not there should be a new trial or not I have no idea.
I used to support the death penalty. I guess I still might if one of my friends or family was murdered. I don’t know. God willing I’ll never know.
As I have aged I have mellowed in many ways. I now believe it would be better to lock murderers up FOR LIFE. No release ever. I couldn’t and wouldn’t put anyone to death. I feel it is so wrong. I don’t think I should ask someone to do what I myself could not do even if I agreed with Capital Punishment.
God help this man if he is innocent. God forgive everyone involved if an innocent man is killed.
Two appellate judges in 2007 dissented, both primarily convinced that the posters left up by prosecutors during trial constituted actionable error, for a variety of reasons. They were overruled.
One of those judges just dissented again , her belief of an unfair trial still resting on her original objection. The second dissent wasn’t about whether or not Glossip had received a fair trial, but rather, that finality was less important than allowing Gossip an evidentiary hearing to assess whether or not Sneed had ever or would recant.
All that would have happened in such a hearing, had it been allowed, is that Sneed would have denied recanting. Same end result, though I think the Court should have allowed it.
I think the Oklahoma judiciary, police department involved and others in the system are afraid of looking “weak” on crime, or “weak” from failing to execute someone they set out to do it to. What is weak is executing someone with reasonable doubt. Too many innocent lives have been lost already, proven innocent after they have been executed. It is not weak to admit this is not an open and shut case and commute the sentence to life. You are giving Oklahoma a bad reputation, not burnishing it as “tough on crime.” Your state instead will be known for “Oklahoma, where we kill innocent people (not to lose face). If you want blood so bad, why don’t you actually kill the murderer. You know, Sneed, the guy who ADMITTED that he picked up a bat and beat someone to death. If someone had killed someone I love I still wouldn’t want them to be killed. They would suffer their whole lives in jail. Death would be too easy. And I would never want someone who didn’t kill my loved one to be killed. It would be terrible to know that my loved one died, and an innocent person died because of it. If there is an afterlife and a hell, these people who have killed an innocent man will be punished there. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Is this what you would want if you were wrongly convicted? It’s not like he will go free. Life is punishment enough. It is unconscionable what you are doing.
And by “people who have killed an innocent man”, I mainly meant the judges, prosecutors, police department involved. But certainly that can apply to Glossip as well. If you think he did it, can’t we punish him for life by keeping him in jail, unable to commit any other crimes, and then let God exact any punishment they see fit when they die? If you believe in God, then you should understand that we shouldn’t play God, because we aren’t infallible like God.
I think that is what I said, for the most part, Grace. I now think that all convicted murderers should be given whole of life sentences not executions.
Only someone who has lost a loved one can tell how it really feels. So, as I say, I don’t know how I’d feel about things if , God forbid, it ever happened.
I have just learned that his man has been granted a stay. What happens afterward remains to be seen. Whether or not there is a reasonable doubt about his guilt I have no idea. There seems to be reason enough though to commute the sentence to life imprisonment.
I hope the family of a brutally murdered man can at last find peace today, and may none of them feel troubled or pained by the outpouring of sympathy for the man who shares responsibility for their father’s death, their husband’s death, their brother’s death, their uncle’s death.
May the family of the man to be executed in a few hours be able to find peace eventually as well, at least from the pain of thinking or believing there was ever anything more they could have done to save their father’s life, their brother’s life. Nothing that happened to Richard Glossip was ever their responsibility or fault.
I really hope that the majority of the posters here live outside the US, and therefore have some excuse for their ignorance of the US legal system.
1. The president of the US cannot and does not stop state-ordered and adjudicated executions.
2. Popular opinion about the DP or a condemned’s claims of innocence do not (thankfully) trump jury verdicts and rulings by multiple appellate courts.
3. Appellate courts are bound by law. They do not rule based on emotion or popular opinion.. They are limited by law in what they are allowed to review, especially at this last minute stage.
4. Juries are not infallible, judges are not infallible, and lawyers are not infallible. The ONLY certain way to prevent the possibility of an innocent person ever being executed is to abolish the DP. Period.
5. The only way those without means (the vast majority of criminal defendants) can receive a fair trial is if they have access to adequate counsel. There isn’t a single state in the United States willing and able to provide the funding required to adequately represent clients in complex litigation that stretches out for years in multiple courts.
6. The US has an adversial
There is a simple fix to this foolishness. If our courts are infallible then no one should have a problem passing nationwide law stating, “if after executing a person, that person is found to be innocent, then the supreme court, the DA’s involved and any witnesses that lied during the trial are all charged with first degree murder and then executed”. I’m sure this law would quickly correct flaws in the current system.
@ Mark:
‘I’m sure this law would quickly correct flaws in the current system.’
Innocent people have probably been executed already.
I suggest that we dig out those cases and prosecute the people responsible for such miscarriages of ‘justice’.
I rule out the death penalty as punishment for the guilty parties, though.
hi christiann
Death-penalty has to be banned from this planet forever! Death-penalty is never a solution to any crime!
And to be honest: your own shadow-Government, consisting of us-administration, Blackrock, Blackstone, Goldman-Sachs and Lehmanbrothers has done genozide to many populations of this planet. What are these three highly illegal Irak-Wars?? What are these cases of MH17, MH370, Air Asia with nearly one thousand innocent passengers killed down by us-army??
Yes, we here on Germany found your traces on this case and we also know, that this us-Government, this shadow-Government, the australian government, the russian government and as well as the maledive government know, where MH370 is. And we also know, that these governments als know what happened to MH17 and Air Asia!!
So: who has done the bigger crime: your us-government oder Glossip??
The Strory’s Major Problem: Claims are Not Verified Evidence
Liliana:
It seems like Oklahoma has been very patient and deliberate.
The case has been through 17 years of appeals, which included two separate trials, during that period and countless appeals though both state and federal courts.
You are trying to establish statements, suggestion and misdirection as actual evidence, which are all common tactics in public debate by defense counsel and others, inclusive of reporters/editorial writers, but do not establish verifiable evidence.
That explains why Glossip has lost his appeals.
Dudley, a conviction in a court of does not equate to guilt! What has happened is that there are just 2 wrong convictions. As Howard K. Philips has pointed out, your ‘legal system is broken.’ Why is there at least a 4% rate of innocence of people actually sentenced to death in the USA (2014 study from your own National Academy of Sciences)? I have read extensively about the case – including the trial proceedings. The ‘evidence against Glossip’ is tenuous at best. Two out of three judges said so at the recent appeals hearing. The OK AG at the time of the first mistrial (‘Cowboy Bob’ Macy was described by the Chicago Tribune in 1999 thus: ” Macy has cheated. He has lied. He has bullied. Even when a man’s life is at stake, Macy has spurned the rule of fair trial, concealing evidence, misrepresenting evidence, or launching into abusive, improper arguments that had nothing to do with the evidence,” according to appellate rulings condemning his tactics). Are you happy with that? Have you ever heard that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely?? I don’t think that the present OK AG, David Prater is much better. Calling attempts to correct a gross miscarriage of justice as a “Bulls#*t PR campaign.” Dudley, it is rather a ‘Bulls#*t PR campaign’ from Oklahoman State officials that is on trial here! Sky News (beamed to 127 countries around the world) has merely highlighted (almost as a ‘mockumentory’) the pathetic, devious and truth avoiding tactics of your deplorable ‘legal’ systems. The thinking person with insight is disgusted by the MANY cases of denial of justice in the USA – particularly if you are black, impecunious or a minority. Why do you set the bar of ‘beyond reasonable doubt so low?’ Why was so much evidence withheld from the juries in your sick games of legal hyperbole competitions?? Why the illegal rounding up of people who have heard Sneed brag about setting Glossip up – to save his own skin?? Why has Sneed’s OWN DAUGHTER admitted (from many conversations with her dad) that Sneed lied to save his own skin?? Glossip was stupid in what happened AFTER the murder, but many do not believe that he was the ‘mastermind.’ The following quote comes from 163 B.C. (Terence). It is as true now (particularly in Oklahoma) as it was then. “Rigorous law is often rigorous injustice.” Many believe this is exactly what happened to the innocent OF MURDER, Glossip.
Based upon your claims, you do not know the difference between claims and proof.
As to the 4% innocent nonsense.
The (now) 155 “exonerated” or “innocent” from death row, as its offshoot, the 4.1% “innocent” on death row, are both deception, very easily discovered by fact checking, wherein the anti death penalty folks have just redefined “exonerated” and “innocent” and stuffed a bunch of cases into those fraudulent definitions (1,3).
1) The Death Penalty: Do Innocents Matter? A Review of All Innocence Issues
http(COLON)//prodpinnc.blogspot(DOT)com/2013/10/the-death-penalty-do-innocents-matter.html
2) OF COURSE THE DEATH PENALTY DETERS: A review of the debate
and
MURDERERS MUCH PREFER LIFE OVER EXECUTION
99.7% of murderers tell us “Give me life, not execution”
http(COLON)//prodpinnc.blogspot(DOT)com/2013/03/of-course-death-penalty-deters.html
3) The “Innocence” Frauds
a) 70-83% of the anti death penalty folks claims of death row “exonerations” are false.
Start with Sections 3&4
The Innocent Frauds: Standard Anti Death Penalty Strategy
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-innocent-frauds-standard-anti-death.html
b) The 4.1% “Innocent” on Death Row: More Nonsense
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-41-innocent-on-death-row.html
c) Innocence Project Invents False Confessions
250% error rate in “confessions”
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-innocence-project-invents-false.html
d) Journalism professor accused of framing innocent man for murder as part of his campaign to abolish death penalty in Illinois, Daily Mail, November 10, 2014,
www(DOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829019/Journalism-professor-accused-framing-innocent-man-murder-campaign-abolish-death-penalty-Illinois.html
I made a mistake in lines 5 and 6 of my reply. It should read: ‘In a 2:3 split, two out of five judges said so at the recent appeals hearing.’ The point is, this is a tiny majority where decisions are subject to so many variable issues. There is a Danish Proverb which says that “lawyers and painters can soon change white to black.’ The Oklahoman State lawyers appear most adept at just that.
Our judicial system is broken. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth when an individual is given a special deal to turn evidence on another individual. People might think a district attorney is interested in justice, but I don’t believe that. It is about closing a case – not the truth and not justice.
If twelve of your fellow citizens want you dead – then the state will execute you. This seems democratic – a twelve to one ratio is a pretty substantial majority. But can the US justice system be improved? This may seem unlikely, but why not examine how other states have killed their citizens? In ancient Athens, Socrates was condemned to death by a jury of 500 citizens for corrupting their youth. The vote was 280-220, so it wasn’t unanimous, but 60 is still a pretty substantial majority.
But why stop there? How about if Oklahoma went full democracy and opened the death penalty in the Glossip case to a general vote? Under the justice system, why should only the prosecutor and the jurors get the opportunity to satisfy their blood lust? Everyone else can only participate vicariously.
So the Governor should call for a referendum and put the decision of executing Richard Glossip to a direct popular vote. Many believe that democracy does not work because the general public has no notable power of discernment. This is true, but democracy also creates a sense of enfranchisement. The US justice system has taken a few knocks to its reputation in recent years. So restoring its popular appeal by giving it democratic legitimacy would be a step in the right direction.
What this case has taught me is no matter what the reason never ever talk to the police without a competent attorney present. Richard Glossip is in prison because he had an incompetent lawyer. A good attorney would have ripped the case apart and would have created enough reasonable doubt to get him acquitted.
That’s a really good lesson to learn. The right to remain silent is absolute. ” I want to speak to an attorney” ends the conversation. And the immediate threat.
Surviving cops if you’re black requires mastering a whole host of skills, but that’s another topic altogether.
A 2014 study by the USA National Academy of Sciences found that AT LEAST 4% of people sentenced to death in the USA are innocent! So well done to David Prater and Mary Fallin for keeping this proud statistic so wonderfully ‘alive.’ But David, you are WAY behind your predecessor in ‘sending them to the death chamber.’ So, try more of the ‘Red Bovine.’ Martin Luther King Jr., could have been prescient about the State of Oklahoma and the Glossip case, when he said,”Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.” Will Prater and Fallin have yet another notch on their bedposts tonight?
Dr. Ball:
Your post is complete, utter nonsense.
Fact check, next time.
THE DEATH PENALTY: SAVING MORE INNOCENT LIVES
The death penalty saves more innocent lives, in three ways, than does life without parole (LWOP) (1,2).
The (now) 155 “exonerated” or “innocent” from death row, as its offshoot, the 4.1% “innocent” on death row, are both deception, very easily discovered by fact checking, wherein the anti death penalty folks have just redefined “exonerated” and “innocent” and stuffed a bunch of cases into those fraudulent definitions (1,3).
There is no verifiable case of an innocent executed, in the US, at least since the 1930’s (1,2).
Since 1973:
(a) there have been 14,000 – 28,000 actual innocents murdered by those known murderers that we allowed to murder, again – recidivist murderers (two different recidivism studies from different years) (1).
(b) up to 200,000 innocents have been murdered by those criminals we have released or not incarcerated (1).
DETERRENCE
The evidence that the death penalty deters some is overwhelming (1,2).
The evidence that the death penalty deters none does not exist (1,2).
Death is feared more than life. Life is preferred over death. What is feared more deters more. What is preferred more deters less.
Media and Fact Checking
The anti death penalty “innocent” and “exoneration” frauds are, very easily, confirmed, yet, most often, are simply passed onto the public by the media, aiding in that fraud, even though the anti death penalty folks have admitted the deceptions (1,2, 3).
1) The Death Penalty: Do Innocents Matter? A Review of All Innocence Issues
http(COLON)//prodpinnc.blogspot(DOT)com/2013/10/the-death-penalty-do-innocents-matter.html
2) OF COURSE THE DEATH PENALTY DETERS: A review of the debate
and
MURDERERS MUCH PREFER LIFE OVER EXECUTION
99.7% of murderers tell us “Give me life, not execution”
http(COLON)//prodpinnc.blogspot(DOT)com/2013/03/of-course-death-penalty-deters.html
3) The “Innocence” Frauds
a) 70-83% of the anti death penalty folks claims of death row “exonerations” are false.
Start with Sections 3&4
The Innocent Frauds: Standard Anti Death Penalty Strategy
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-innocent-frauds-standard-anti-death.html
b) The 4.1% “Innocent” on Death Row: More Nonsense
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-41-innocent-on-death-row.html
c) Innocence Project Invents False Confessions
250% error rate in “confessions”
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-innocence-project-invents-false.html
d) Journalism professor accused of framing innocent man for murder as part of his campaign to abolish death penalty in Illinois, Daily Mail, November 10, 2014,
www(DOT)dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829019/Journalism-professor-accused-framing-innocent-man-murder-campaign-abolish-death-penalty-Illinois.html
Dear Dudley, thank you for your posting.
I likewise find no thread of validity, proof or credence in your posting.
I certainly do know the difference between claims and proof. Don’t think the State of Oklahoma does however. Have yet to see the PROOF of the guilt of murder by Glossip as have many others around the globe. I discussed this issue very recently with a Law Professor who believes that this is an excellent example of how justice can be perverted by the State.
You purport that this is a case of ABSOLUTE certainty as to the guilt of murder of Glossip. Many, including 2 out of 5 dissenting judges in the recent Oklahoman Appeals Court disagree. Their words not mine described the case against Glossip as ‘flawed or tenuous.’ Your judges not mine!
Simple question: Do you believe in ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ when sentencing Capital Crime? Yes or No?
Do you believe that it is possible/ has happened , for a wrongly convicted innocent person to be executed in the USA? How does that sit with yourself?
Do you not see huge problems in the way the series of farcical trials took place in the Glossip case?
Why was crucial evidence withheld from the juries?? You are obviously happy with that? As usual, the criminality of State officials will be overlooked? This is naturally the USA way?
Why is the Murder Rate HIGHER in the USA States (since 1991) that have the death penalty than those which do not?
See: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
You appear not to be able to discern between acceptable and unacceptable methods used in the dispensation of Justice? There are a multitude holes, misconceptions and frankly illegal tactics used in the OK State trials against Glossip.
The case hinges on whether the violent, drug addicted, 8 versions of the events Sneed lied or not. Then you have the You have the temerity to debate the difference between ‘claims’ and ‘proof!
Is might, right?
‘Why is there the huge geographical arbitrariness in the rate of executions in the USA? 82% of executions are in the South, and less than 1% in the Northeast? Why?
Oklahoma has 1.215% of the population of the USA. Yet the false death sentencing of Oklahoma since 1973 was 6.5% of the total for the USA? Why? Certainly ‘Cowboy Bob’ Macy helped! You obviously approve of his methods?
Like David Prater, you ASSUME that an objection to the veracity of the FACTS (not Macy inspired claims) in this case equates to an abhorrence of the Death Penalty. You (like Prater) conflate the two issues. What MANY around the world (including your own judges) object to, is the sentencing to death of Glossip without ANY material evidence. Oops, you lot destroyed the evidence!
I ask again, should you not have a reasonable standard of ‘beyond reasonable proof?’ If not, you are morally no better than the thugs in Syria.
The truth will come out eventually. There will be books and films on this case. I really do sympathize with the Van Treese family. However, a State sponsored execution of an innocent man to assuage Van Treese’s violent death, based on a litany of legal abuses/mistakes/deliberate misleading – is not JUSTICE.
We expect more from you in the USA.
We do not get good laws to restrain bad people. We get good people to restrain bad laws. Law is not truth, nor is it reason nor justice.
The impending State sponsored execution of the obviously innocent Glossip is a farce, a gross violation of justice and is a blight on the entire USA. Certain truths ….’are self evident.’
This case is the apotheosis of everything that is wrong or broken with the ‘game of legalized power abuse’ in the USA. Why is the bar of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ not lifted off the toilet floor? Is a 3:2 (or 5:4) split on a patently wrong conviction cause for the celebration of ‘beyond reasonable doubt?’ Viewed from the southern tip of Africa, over 7500 miles away, this case is a farce, a ‘sick joke’ and an abomination. You don’t see it, but it is actually your pathological power systems that are on trial! But hey, you have a new $100000 execution chamber to test drive. So go ahead, have yet another State execution of an innocent. You will then feel better in the morning I’m sure.
The courts are more than happy to overturn death sentences. Happens all the time, with any excuse.
Not enough evidence to do so, here, obviously.
You need verifiable evidence, not unconfirmed claims.
OK, Dudley, we get it–you really want this man to die, but repeating yourself hoarse won’t help matters.
“You need verifiable evidence, not unconfirmed claims.”
As goes to this case, Dudley! What verifiable evidence has been presented to warrant this man’s execution? There isn’t enough evidence to overturn, but there isn’t enough evidence to reach this outcome in the first place! Clearly something in the legal system is messed up here.
@ Dudley Sharp:
‘The courts are more than happy to overturn death sentences. Happens all the time, with any excuse.’
To illustrate your point:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/montez-spradley-innocent-man-once-death-row-free
Alabama judge Gloria Bahakel OVERRODE THE JURY’S DECISION OF ‘LIFE IN PRISON’ to condemn Spradley to death in 2006!
Spradley was recognised innocent and freed a few weeks ago.
Judge Gloria Bahakel is presently running for reelection, BOASTING OF HER EXEMPLARY JUDICIAL RECORD!
http://www.gloriabahakel.com/
Why are they so eager? They don’t want the world to know they messed up. That’s it in a nutshell.
Arrogance + Unlimited Power = Evil.
Why don’t Glossip’s attorneys give the court what they want/?- The court has written:
“Glossip has presented no credible evidence that the witnesses gave falsified testimony at trial,” Judge David Lewis wrote in his opinion. “Glossip’s conviction is not based solely on the testimony of a co-defendant and the execution of the sentence will not violate the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution.”
But there IS very credible evidence in fact it it the States own evidence that states witness was not credible – criminal CLIFF EVERHART. posing as a relaible OIDS detective and Security officer.
They have his arrest record for falsifying documents and other issues that speak directly to credibility. – they are:
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300225
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300224
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CF++0300046
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&cmid=247436
That Everhart had been arrested on two misdemeanor charges and one felony charge prior to Glossip’s second trial would not have necessarily admissible, Real Truth. There are mulitiple factors for a judge to consider prior to admitting evidence, including whether the evidence would unfairly prejudice the jury.
In this particular case, Glossip’s defense attorneys could have discovered this evidence and used it to impeach Everhart if his testimony in 2004 was substantially different from his prior testimony in 1999, prior to the arrests. The fact that these are arrests, rather than convictions might also have rendered them inadmissible as unadjudicated offenses of a witness.
Contrary to your mistaken belief, this is not evidence that proves Glossip is innocent. Glossip’s attorneys could have discovered it with the exercise of due diligence. The court could have ruled that it was not admissible based on the lack of a conviction at the time of the trial, or the chance that the admission would prejudice the jury. Finally, if Everhart’s testimony at the 2004 trial was not substantially different from his testimony in 1999, the defense would have had information that it could not use.
You mean an officer who has been arrested for planting evidence should be be able to hide these arrests from a jury – what third world mentality is this?
Donuts…the full trial transcript is not available online. Google “Richard Glossip appeals” and you’ll find links to all the appellate rulings.
Readfrontier.com has links to transcripts of Glossip’s interrogations and partial trial transcripts of testimony by Everhart , D-anna and Billye the hotel clerk. For starters.
Thank you, Julie. The way Truth was saying “just read all the evidence and look at the videos” I thought it must’ve been all online.
Saw a SkyUK vid which showed part of Glossip’s interrogation (about a couple of minutes) and they said it was the first time it had been shown.
Correction: Now the media is saying the Pope actually did send a letter asking for Glossip not to be executed ( http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/29/us/georgia-execution-kelly-gissendaner/ ). But I don’t see a link to the text … I wonder what his take on this is.
Richard Glossip is going to die tomorrow. Then what, those of you who think he is innocent? Or just want to see the DP abolished?
Do you look for the next prisoner scheduled for execution and rally against the DP? Look for someone on death row who you think may conceivable be innocent and flock to that person?
I challenge you to get genuinely involved in reforms that can actually make a difference.
The DP will be abolished sooner rather than later , not least because conservatives are increasingly convinced LWOP is a better option. That should keep you up at night. Without real reforms what comes after the DP are much speedier trials that result in more LWOP sentences , with far less post-conviction judicial review of any kind.
What will be the rallying call then? That murderers and violent felons don’t deserve to die of old age in prison? Good luck with that.
@ Julie:
‘Richard Glossip is going to die tomorrow.’
Maybe you’ll die before Glossip, who knows?
There already *is* some pushback on this, like https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2015/apr/9/california-supreme-court-restricts-life-without-parole-sentences-juveniles/ . It is practically self-reforming in the end, because any idiot can see that having swarthy young men with military training standing guard in high towers over a bunch of doddering old folks with walkers and adult diapers is not an effective use of government money. It is, you might say, just a matter of time.
Of course, I’d like to see people reconsider the entire religious ritual sacrifice that is the prison system, since it is often a waste of time to have those men standing guard over hackers and stoners and morons who light an M-80 and throw it in the neighbor’s mailbox. Even the most serious offenders like child molesters might be more cheaply and productively dealt with in a system of internal exile and sharashkas rather than warehousing them. But at least there are some baby steps here.
I challenge you to come up with some credible evidence that warrants the death penalty for Glossip.
This isn’t a case of abolishing the death penalty for me, In my country it doesn’t exist. It’s about taking the life of an innocent man for the sake of a claim made by an untrustworthy, drug abusing, liar who wanted to save his own life.
Im completely heartbroken over this I am praying so hard for this man. This is a total travesty, a miscarriage of justice. Prosecutor know that there’s lot of inconsistencies, but rather send a man to die than admit they are wrong. Crying in California.
If Glossip dies tomorrow then those who executed him will be guilty of murder in the first degree for putting to death a man they know to be innocent. But no one sends to prison prosecutors who abuse their offices to put innocent people in jail or to their graves. That needs to change.
Because we are a people of hate. More interested in vengeance than justice. More interested in acting pious than acting. The blood of the innocents stains all our souls.
> The blood of the innocents stains all our souls.
Life goes on for those of us who believe in “Thou Shall Not Kill”.
What a strange statement coming from someone who has so far posted around a dozen comments, which are all about pushing for the state to kill Richard Glossip as soon as possible.
@ Kitt ? The Truth:
‘Life goes on for those of us who believe in “Thou Shall Not Kill”.
What a strange statement coming from someone…pushing for the state to kill Richard Glossip as soon as possible.’
That statement appears outright schizophrenic, actually.
Execution is justice for those who murder.
Your self delusion prompted me to recall a less than perfect add campaign which fits fairly well to describe your blatant contradiction coupled by your blatant denial of that contradiction: ‘A mind is a terrible thing to waste’
‘The Truth’ (sigh…) ? Kitt:
‘Execution is justice for those who murder.’
Has your “Thou Shall Not Kill” from September 29 2015, 6:01 p.m. suddenly become inconvenient?
It looks like in your comment you are asking the wrong person. “The Truth” is who you should be asking. Maybe I’m misreading why you put my name where you put it in that comment?
I mistyped, Kitt, sorry.
My comment should have looked like this:
@The Truth ? Kitt:
‘Execution is justice for those who murder.’
Has your “Thou Shall Not Kill” from September 29 2015, 6:01 p.m. suddenly become inconvenient, ‘The Truth’?
Sorry, Kitt, it seems that either my computer or this website is malfunctioning.
When I copy, for the purpose of quoting, the small arrow that indicates someone’s reply to somebody else, my computer or the website transforms that arrow into a question-mark.
I am almost done commenting anyway but just want to add:
the time has come to find out who has been wrongly executed and prosecute the people responsible.
The time has come to enforce accountability for people who have abused their power or have been criminally negligent, causing death.
Agree with you 100%. Nobody is above the law.
@ The Truth (sigh…):
‘Life goes on for those of us who believe in “Thou Shall Not Kill”.’
WHY ARE YOU SO EAGER TO KILL RICHARD GLOSSIP TOMORROW, ‘THE TRUTH’?
Hate is not intrinsically a bad thing. It is the quintessentially human part of us, what distinguishes us from the animals (though elephants have been known to show a touch of it now and then). It is part of the divine design of the human soul. No, it’s not that hate is wrong, but its misuse is wrong, because to misdirect our hate is to misdirect our spirit.
By all means, let us hate – let us hate to see good people murdered, let us hate injustice, let us hate the death penalty, let us hate all the unfair, rigged, inegalitarian institutions that fail to protect us in favor of “justice theater”. We are only wrong when we turn our hate against our fellow human beings.
““the state no has no interest in executing an actually innocent man.””
Well, OF COURSE THEY DO! Their interest is in not letting the people know just how unjust they are! How they WILLINGLY and even EAGERLY will send a person they know to be innocent to death, so long as it advances their careers.
The DA should go to prison!
Unjust? Really? After 2 trials which both ended in a conviction and numerous appeals over almost 20 years… unjust?
Ok. Right. It’s always the D.A’s problem. Even if the D.A. wasn’t present at trial. It was Assistant District Attorneys Oklahoma County Connie Smothermon & Gary Ackley
And that the appeal it was Drew Edmondson Attorney General Of Oklahoma and Seth B. Branham Assistant Attorney General.
Are you saying that they should ALL go to prison for convicting a murderer?
The truth : So your saying that our justice system is 100% perfect and that everybody in a position of power over the public always does the right thing? So you don’t thing any evidence was covered up or kept from the jury? Glossip may or may not be guilty but the fact is he is not guilty of killing anyone. We are all human and by nature not perfect. You can say without a doubt that you have never told a small white lie? All this “he said she said” court room BS is out of control. When is America going to reprimanded the individuals who actually commit crime beyond a reasonable doubt and stop dragging the rest of us down with them. It is so easy for anyone to throw someone else under the bus and why, because we are all capable of telling a small white lie.
No, they should go to prison for knowingly railroading an innocent man into jail and the death penalty. The evidence against Glossip was always nonexistent, based solely on the dubious testimony of a drug addict and liar who apparently boasted that he’d lied in order to save his own worthless carcass from the needle. Prosecutors withheld evidence, defense attorneys originally assigned to the case failed to do their jobs properly, and police apparently destroyed evidence exonerating Glossip. Prater simply has no interest in the truth and is perfectly willing to execute a man he knows is innocent in order to soothe his own wounded ego. That is downright criminal.
FGS, read up on the case and get your facts straight. Sneed was NOT solely responsible for Glossip’s arrest, conviction, or sentence. Glossip was NOT railroaded. Prosecutors did NOT withold evidence, police destroyed evidence that was never examined by defense attys so there is no way of evaluating how it may have helped or harmed Glossip’s case, and the same conspiring system mindlessly intent on killing Glossip is responsible for his getting a second trial at all, however profoundly flawed it was (and it sure was).
Be angry, but make a difference by being better informed first and angry for the right reasons..
Let’s remove Sneed’s false testimony from the equation. On the remaining “evidence”, can it truly be said that the case against Glossip was so solid that no jury wouldn’t have voted to convict him, especially given that we know evidence was not only withheld from two juries but also destroyed before it could be presented in open court? You can’t possibly answer that question knowing evidence was destroyed that may or may not have exonerated the defendant. Not can you sufficiently prove Glossip was guilty based on false testimony. The case therefore falls apart, and bear in mind that more than one judge agreed that the evidence against Glossip is tenuous at best.
There is a list of what evidence was destroyed. Only 2 items seem remotely relevant: the shower curtain and the registers, and perhaps whatever was written in that note (least likely). The curtain may or may not have had Glossip’s fingerprints on it, which would have potentially relevant to impeach Sneed on his testimony that Glossip helped to repair the window, though….umm…Glossip said he did help. The registers at best could have refuted the allegation of a shortage, but even if so, would have been open to subject to allegations of fudged books because others testified that Van Neese believed there was a shortage. The note? Who knows.
I do not believe Sneed testified falsely as to the basic fact that Glossip was involved. Glossip’s attorneys DID attempt to impeach Sneed by pointing out inconsistencies during his interrogation. The jury may or not have believed every last word of Sneed’s. I doubt they did. But they were given the opportunity to doubt Sneed and concluded that he was telling the truth that Glossip asked him to murder Van Needs.
Sneed’s testimony WAS key to Glossip’s conviction, and without it the evidence IS tenuous…as in circumstantial, not direct. But there was enough of that circumstantial evidence to convince a reasonable person that Glossip was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and yes, the unexplained money found on Glossip is pretty damning all by itself.
Sneed’s story keeps changing with every telling. Glossip’s doesn’t. That should tell you how reliable Sneed’s testimony is, especially given his drug habit, his thievery, his murder of a human being in a most violent and gruesome manner, and of course, his obvious incentive to lie in order to save his own skin. There are just too many inconsistencies in Sneed’s tale to believe a word he says regarding Glossip. Without Sneed’s false testimony, the state has no case against Glossip. Even Sneed’s own family including his daughter and mother don’t believe him and have expressed support for Glossip.
Factually untrue about Sneed’s daughter and mother, that directed at anyone who actually bothers to read comments here, which transparently doesn’t often include those commenting.
When some (not all) police and prosecutors falsify or embellish police reports or withheld exculpatory evidence – they don’t want anyone digging up that corruption.
Americans would be shocked at how inaccurate this process really is. They keep building a house of cards on a false foundation and it can easily be toppled by honest watchdogs reviewing their work.
The U.S. Supreme Court along with each and every government official from Oklahoma swore a supreme “oath of office” to uphold the constitutional rights of every citizen and every non-citizen on U.S. soil or U.S. controlled territory. Officials from the Oklahoma justice system appear to be denying that constitutional due process in this case and violating their own loyalty oath.
It seems proper for the U.S. Supreme Court and DOJ’s Civil Rights Division to take control here and mandate that due process when state officials violate the U.S. Constitution. Similar to the abuses against African-Americans during the Civil Rights era – abusing constitutional due process (under color of law) was how some of the worst atrocities happened.
In a rush? It’s been 18 YEARS. The new evidence of note is NOT 2 unreliable witnesses and their hearsay stories that do not in fact make sense. Prison doesn’t reward folks who brag about snitching an innocent guy onto death row.
Why in hell aren’t his attys focusing on appealing on the basis of a flawed penalty phase? During which an ME lied, possibly influencing the jury to vote DP rather than life.
He isn’t innocent , and even if the SC acts and he gets an evidentiary hearing , if innocence is all that’s on the table, he is a dead man.
Agreed. If everyone just read the trial and appeal transcripts, police interview notes and video testimony.
Richard Glossip isn’t innocent.
It’s easier to just sound off on the wickedness of the DP, or to get caught up in the uninformed hysteria that an innocent man is about to be “murdered.”
For those paying any closer attention…even Barry Scheck does NOT run about claiming Glossip is innocent. His arguments are more persuasive because they are honest, not based on emotion, take into account larger legal issues and context, and because he needs his credibility intact for all the battles that come next.
so what you are saying is hearsay from an unreliable liar/drug addict/thief used to sentence a man to death is perfectly acceptable? And prison doesn’t reward snitches? I see. But then again, he doesn’t have a date scheduled with death for 3pm Wednesday, now does he? Julie, honey, i am sorry, but you don’t got much going to between the ears dear.
Suggestion: educate yourself on the definition of ” hearsay.”
Then,try to see the difference between cooperating
with cops and prosecutors before trial to save your own life, as opposed to bragging to cellies that you lied to save your own ass and sent an innocent friend to death row.
Last, personal attacks are an unpersuasive way to make a point.
Years ago a friend of mine was murdered. When I found out a year later that one of her attackers had been killed in prison, there was no sense of vindication or closure, just the sick, empty feeling that two young people had died senselessly.
End the death penalty. It doesn’t fix anything. It’s not a deterrent. It is unbecoming of a modern nation.
Bigots. Human bigotry. I don’t get it. Never will.
Execute Prater instead
Oklahoma has experienced a dramatic increase in the number of persons in prison over the last two decades. Since 1989, the total number of persons in prison in Oklahoma has more than doubled, increasing by 127% (see Figure 1) from 11,608 to 26,397 in 2009.
Oklahoma also incarcerates its citizens at a higher rate than other states. The state’s rate of incarceration of 661 per 100,000 population is third in the nation. The state imprisons people at a rate 48% higher than the national average.
In spite of the extremely high rate of incarceration, Oklahoma is the 10th most violent state in the nation. Oklahoma City has the fifth highest rate of crime in Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is the 28th most populated state in the union.
When 1994 began, five of the eight Oklahomans in Congress were Democrats. When it ended, Republicans had taken all but one of the seats. Since that year, there has never been more than one Democrat in the delegation. In some years, like this one {2014}, there are none.
The current Governor, Mary Fallon, Is a republican.
Of the five judges who sit on the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals, three were appointed by a democratic governor and two were appointed by a republican governor. These judicial appointments are subject to voter approval in the general state-wide elections.
Mitt Romney won two thirds of the popular vote in Oklahoma in the 2012 presidential election.
Oklahoma had the third lowest voter turnout of all states in 2012 presidential elections; it was reported to be the worst voter turnout in 72 Years.
Oklahoma is 72% white, 8.6% Native American, and 7.4% African American
During the presidential campaign in 1968, Oklahoma was targeted by the Republican Party to be included in what was called the Southern Strategy. Beginning with the second Presidential campaign of Richard Nixon (who appealed to Oklahoma voters on the issue of law and order), Oklahoma gradually changed in its voting pattern in national elections to become an increasingly reliable Republican state for presidential tickets. President George W. Bush carried Oklahoma twice (by a wide margin), in 2000 and 2004, for example. In 2004, every Oklahoma county voted for President George W. Bush over Senator John Kerry. In 2008, Oklahoma was the only state in which every county was carried by John McCain. (Wikipedia: Politics of Oklahoma)
In 2015, republican state representative Kevin Calvey Representative Calvey introduced House Bill 2206, which would prohibit Oklahoma’s district attorneys from prosecuting state officials, granting that power exclusively to the state’s Attorney General. This would exempt lawmakers from prosecution of nearly any crimes that are normally handled at the local level. Apparently, this is the republican solution for overcrowded prisons.
Of the 112 inmates who have been executed since 1976, 70 occurred while a republican was governor. 17 executions have taken place during Governor Mary Fallon’s reign. Two death row inmates have been exonerated since 1987.
This isn’t about Democrat vs. Republican, corruption and inhumanity isn’t partisan. Look up what happened to Abdulelah Haider Shaye and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Both ruling parties are corrupt, making the whole partisan football game you like to play pointless and distracting. Can we just focus on protesting injustice whenever it occurs, regardless of whatever partisan label those responsible hide behind?
@Joshua H
“This isn’t about Democrat vs. Republican, corruption and inhumanity isn’t partisan.”
Really? The only person who can prevent the execution of Glossip is the Governor. It is all about politics. In keeping with the longstanding perception that republicans are the “Law and Order” party, Governor Fallin has made it crystal clear that she is a “law and order” republican who would not shy away from using the death penalty:
Immediately upon assuming office in 2011, Governor Fallin signed a bill that enhanced the state sentencing guidelines for hash manufacturing to a minimum of two years in jail and a maximum penalty of life in prison; state law already allowed judges to hand out life sentences for those convicted of cannabis cultivation or for the sale of a single dime-bag.
One month later, in her first state of the State address (Feb. 2011), Governor said,”As Oklahomans, we must always place a priority on protecting our citizens and keeping our streets safe. But we can be tough on crime and smart on crime.”
After serving two years in office, the Oklahoman reported that ” the number of paroles granted to the state’s inmates has dropped sharply.” (Fewer Oklahoma inmates get parole since Fallin took office, records show, by Andrew Knittle; March 25, 2013).
“Under {republican governor} Fallin, Oklahoma has pushed for increased use of lethal injection as a means of ending life in capital punishment, while refusing to release details of the new chemical concoctions used in these executions following chemical company Hospira’s decision to stop producing sodium thiopental, which had previously been widely used. Fallin pushed strongly for the execution of convicted murderer Clayton Lockett to proceed in spite of the lack of tested drugs to use for lethal injection. When the Oklahoma State Supreme Court granted a stay of execution, Fallin immediately overruled it, leading some political commentators to raise the possibility of a constitutional crisis surrounding the separation of powers. At the same time, a member of the Oklahoma legislature moved to impeach the seven justices on the Supreme Court who had granted the stay. Lockett’s execution was attempted on April 29, 2014, and was abandoned when he could not be sedated and was left writhing in pain. After Lockett died 43 minutes later of a heart attack, Governor Mary Fallin appointed a member of her own staff to lead the investigation into the botched execution.” (Wikipedia: Governor Fallin – Lethal injection controversy).
When Governor Fallon actually began pushing for early release programs in 2014 that would alleviate some of the overcrowding in Oklahoma prisons, she came under attack by key democrats within the state who alleged that she was being soft on criminals:
“I think what you’re going to see within a year, maybe less, is a spike in crime by the offenders released to the street,” District Attorney David Prater told Oklahoma Watch News after the expansion of the Oklahoma program was announced in December 2014.” (Crime and No Punishment; by Jon Conradi)
There is absolutely no doubt that Governor Fallin nurtures the perception that she is a republican’s republican:
Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin boasts far-right record
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/meet-oklahoma-governor-mary-fallin
Not about politics? ROFL!!!
Of all the things I’d hoped to hear from Pope Francis, “Give us Barrabas!” was not one of them.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/lethal-injection/pope-urges-halt-execution-georgia-woman-kelly-gissendaner-n435566
On January 6, 1997, Mr. Van Treese, the motel owner, audited the books for the Oklahoma City motel managed by Richard Glossip and discovered $6,101.92 in shortages. Mrs. Van Treese testified that her husband intended to confront Richard Glossip about these shortages.
William Bender, the manager of the Tulsa motel, also owned by Mr. Van Treese, testified that Mr. Van Treese told Glossip he had until the next day to come up with the missing receipts and a week to get the missing registration cards in order. Mr. Van Treese was on his way to the Oklahoma City motel to look into the rooms being remodeled by Richard Glossip.
Justin Sneed testified that on the evening of January 6, 1997 Glossip came to his room and asked Sneed to kill Mr. Van Treese. Glossip said that if Van Treese inspected the rooms in the morning he would find that none of the remodeling work had been done and both of them would be out of jobs. Glossip promised Sneed money to murder Van Treese. Richard also said he wanted Mr. Van Treese out of the way so he could persuade Mrs. Van Treese to let him manage both motels and to hide the fact that repairs on the motel hadn’t been done.
D-Anna Wood, Richard Glossip’s girlfriend, testified that she and Glossip were awakened at 4:00 a.m. by Sneed. She testified that Glossip got out of bed and went out to talk to Sneed. When he returned, Glossip told her that two drunks got into a fight and broke a window. She testified that Glossip then returned back to bed.
The next morning, Billye Hooper, a clerk at the motel, arrived for work and asked Glossip about Mr. Van Treese. Glossip lied and told her that Mr. Van Treese had left to get supplies for the room remodels. A housekeeper testified that Glossip told her to not to clean Room 102 and that he and Sneed would take care of it.
Later that day, Glossip and D-Anna Wood were shopping at at Wal–Mart when Richard received a page to return to the motel. When questioned by the Oklahoma City Police, Richard Glossip failed to mention the broken window, drunks in a fight, Sneed’s 4 AM wake up and several witnesses said he was inconsistent as to when he last saw Mr. Van Treese. In fact, Richard Glossip lied to the police and told them he had seen Mr. Treese after the time of death determined by the medical examiner. Glossip also said that maybe the people in the upstairs room were involved. The police began discussing Glossip’s conflicting statements with him and decided to perform a room by room check. It is then that they discovered the body of Van Trees in Room 102.
The truth… is in It’s in the trial and appeal transcripts, police interview notes and video testimony. It’s been almost 20 years since the murders. There’s been 2 trials and numerous appeals. There’s nothing that will exonerate Richard Glossip of hiring Justin Sneed to kill Mr. Van Trees.
Glossip will be executed tomorrow Wednesday, September 30th, 2015 at 3 p.m. in McAlester.
What about new witnesses? That’s the main point of this article, and the authorities seem hellbent on witness tampering or intimidation to stifle it.
Trials can be miscarried, juries misled, police notes falsified and video edited. And the length of time in prison is not proof of guilt either by any rules of evidence I’ve read. Tom Mooney was in prison for 22 years for that 1916 parade bombing, and it took that length of time to show that the DA had framed the whole case and suborned or destroyed so much evidence that to this day we don’t know who did it. Meantime, the conventional wisdom was that “well, he’s been in jail so long he must be guilty.” Old song.
And the authorities seem very eager to get Glossip underground before anything embarrassing comes out, it seems.
New witnesses? Right. Ok. Everything you need to know are in video testimony of Richard Glossip himself.
In one videotaped interview with detectives on January 8, 1997, Mr. Glossip denied knowing anything about Sneed’s involvement in the killing of Van Treese. Soon after, Richard Glossip began selling his possessions and told people he was leaving town. Searches of Glossip’s place an person revealed he possessed approximately $1,200.00 in cash, which he claimed was money from vending machines proceeds. Richard’s girlfriend, D-Anna Wood, testified that the money was for breast implants for her birthday. She had earlier told the desk clerk Billye Hooper that “Rich” had promised her an engagement ring, a Camaro, a boob job and a baby by the time she was 25.
Richard said the money was to hire an attorney, even though he hadn’t been arrested yet. Justin Sneed also possessed approximately $1,700.00 in cash.
In his second interview, Glossip told police that Sneed did in fact tell him that he killed Van Treese. Richard Glossip then denies ever going into Room 102, but does say he assisted with repairing the window. He said he never saw Van Treese’s body in the room.
Richard Glossip’s finger prints weren’t found anywhere in the room or the window he said he helped repair. Even though the management the entire motel, Room 102 was cleaned of all his finger prints.
It’s all there if one takes the time to read it.
It’s there, sure. However, inconsistencies are not proof of guilt by themselves, and other witnesses (e.g., Anna Wood) still should face tests of impeachability or hearsay, something Glossip’s trial attorney may not have done or done competently. Any evidence needs authentication, and this often comes up pre-trial and may not have been in the transcript.
Sometimes it’s a matter of defective counsel and a credulous jury, and it’s worth remembering that evidence isn’t always true on its face, or simply incomplete. Certainly the dissenting judges were unimpressed. And all of this only ties together if you believe Sneed’s testimony.
> something Glossip’s trial attorney may not have done or done competently.
In which of the two trials was this? Or which appeal over the almost 20 years? Did Glossip’s defense team get it wrong…over…and over.. again?
> a matter of defective counsel and a credulous jury
Wow…so now it’s the jury’s fault. Gotcha. Richard Glossip is the mastermind behind this murder. He paid Sneed to kill Mr. Van Treese. Had Richard Glossip not stolen money from Mr. Van Treese and then offered Sneed money to murder him…Mr. Van Treese would be alive today. Sneed didn’t act on his own.
To kill a snake, you cut off the head. In this case, that is Richard Glossip.
Why don’t Glossip’s attorneys give the court what they want/?- The court has written:
“Glossip has presented no credible evidence that the witnesses gave falsified testimony at trial,” Judge David Lewis wrote in his opinion. “Glossip’s conviction is not based solely on the testimony of a co-defendant and the execution of the sentence will not violate the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution.”
But there IS very credible evidence in fact it it the States own evidence that states witness was not credible – criminal CLIFF EVERHART. posing as a relaible OIDS detective and Security officer.
They have his arrest record for falsifying documents and other issues that speak directly to credibility. – they are:
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300225
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300224
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CF++0300046
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&cmid=247436
Truth, I would like to read the trial and appeal transcripts, police interview notes and see the video testimony as you say it’s all there. Where can I find it?
Thanks.
Quick question, don’t you have a problem with this?
“That box of evidence was destroyed in 1999. According to a police report the order for destruction came on October 25, 1999, just five days after the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals ordered Glossip’s initial trial verdict back to Oklahoma County District Court for a ‘fact finding’ hearing on his claims of prosecutorial misconduct and ineffective assistance of counsel.
The police report indicates the box of evidence came from the Oklahoma County District Attorney’s office and in the report a police officer wrote that the evidence was from the case of Justin Sneed and Richard Glossip. The officer writes the property is marked for destruction because all of the appeals had been exhausted.”
The DA knew it was going to appeal so why order that box of evidence destroyed? Why not all of it if it were a mistake instead of just the one box? That right there was incompetent wouldn’t you agree?
Why don’t Glossip’s attorneys give the court what they want/?- The court has written:
“Glossip has presented no credible evidence that the witnesses gave falsified testimony at trial,” Judge David Lewis wrote in his opinion. “Glossip’s conviction is not based solely on the testimony of a co-defendant and the execution of the sentence will not violate the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution.”
But there IS very credible evidence in fact it it the States own evidence that states witness was not credible – criminal CLIFF EVERHART. posing as a relaible OIDS detective and Security officer.
They have his arrest record for falsifying documents and other issues that speak directly to credibility. – they are:
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300225
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CM++0300224
http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=006-&casekey=006-CF++0300046
http://www.oscn.net/dockets/GetCaseInformation.aspx?db=cleveland&cmid=247436
Maybe it’s time to “BDS” the government of Oklahoma. This isn’t something I know, but I’m thinking bankers are chronic bullies; they know how to circle when blood is in the water… what if a lot of people urged them, commended them, for putting the screws to the state and demanding higher interest before buying municipal bonds? Apparently they’re running a pretty high state deficit now, not to mention the loss of oil revenue, and an infestation of supply-side economics followed by per capita fees to make up for the lost income tax on the wealthy ( http://okobserver.net/2015/04/how-much-bigger-can-oklahomas-budget-deficit-grow/ ) If we got up a head of steam, could we pump up a vicious cycle where rising interest rates cause an escalating loss of lender confidence, until the whole state goes the way of Detroit?
This miscarriage of justice, in my opinion, would not bring resolution and closure if it was my family. Although my family is dealing with the same situation of innocence with my brother, the fact that if Glossip is executed tomorrow the actual killer of Barry Van Trees will still be alive way after Richard Glossip is gone. I am very sorry and feel very sad for the Van Treese family’s lose but this is not closure in my eyes.
Richard Glossip paid to have Mr. Van Treese killed. He is the actual killer. Justin Sneed wouldn’t have committed the murder if Glossip hadn’t promised him money. It was Glossip’s idea to commit the crime. Sneed was just his patsy.
So in simple term, If I tell you to go jump off a bridge and your dumb enough to do it then it’s my fault that you can’t make the right choices? Smart, really smart, you make a great argument!
@ The Truth (sigh…):
‘Justin Sneed wouldn’t have committed the murder if Glossip hadn’t promised him money.’
THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU DON’T KNOW THAT!
Sneed could’ve said “No” or “Do it yourself” if that were the case. Is there anything to corroborate that Glossip either gave him money or promised him money apart from what Sneed said?
I’m not anti DP, I just wouldn’t do it from what I’ve read so far. BTW, you still haven’t got back to me about everything that is supposed to be available. You mentioned videos. Where are they?
This kind of prosecutorial conduct, in theory, could contravene professional rules on a number of counts, both in the ABA model rules and most states’.
(For Oklahoma, see Appendix 3-A,
http://www.okbar.org/members/EthicsCounsel/RulesProfessionalConduct.aspx
see esp. Rules 3.1-3.8 & 4.1-4.4)
In most states, it seems that a lawyer won’t get disbarred unless they’ve been fooling with clients’ trust accounts or are themselves convicted of a felony, usually fraud or some such.
The DA here may be in a hurry to get the execution over with because once the prisoner is dead, people may lose interest, sad to say, and go on to try and save the next wrongfully-convicted one.
Depends on what you mean by wrongfully convicted. There was sufficient evidence to find Glossip guilty, and I think he’s guilty as hell.
The insistence on his innocence is maddening, actually, not just because the assertion keeps being made with misleading and incomplete information, but because there is no legal recourse to be had at this stage on that basis unless Sneed magically rises up to declare he lied and acted alone.
Sneed isn’t going to do that. Sneed isn’t going to do that because it isn’t true, and even if it were, he wouldn’t out of fear of prison justice doing him in for snitching an innocent man onto DR, which by the way, is a very credible reason to disbelieve the 2 witnesses who have stepped forward.
As one of the appeals justices stated, the reason why Glossip shouldn’t be executed is because he didn’t receive a fair trial. The ury who found him guilty
The procedural issues are important enough, the substantive question of guilt or innocence aside. Appellate courts will often toss back sentences or verdicts because of breaches in due process simply as a warning to lower courts and prosecutors. It’s something we might see in the Pvt. Manning case in military appellate courts: the defendant may indeed be guilty, but their jailhouse treatment and trial irregularities may not justify the sentence, or even the verdict.
We also need to weigh whether testimony of jailhouse snitches should be the decisive evidence of guilt. Even if individual juries buy it, I’d like to see more case law and new rules of evidence to address this.
The key word in your message was you” think” he is guilty. That is the huge reason why this should be stopped. The state should not be executing anyone that they think is most likely guilty. If there is any sliver of doubt, then the state is saying that killing a few people who could possibly be innocent is okay. You cannot undo dead. If he is put to death and later on it is found that he was innocent, his death should be on the conscious of everyone that wanted this execution to happen from the government on down to people who are just reading these news reports and wanting him executed.
Richard Glossip paid to have Mr. Van Treese killed. He is the actual killer. Justin Sneed wouldn’t have committed the murder if Glossip hadn’t promised him money. It was Glossip’s idea to commit the crime. Sneed was just his patsy.
Richard Glossip IS guilty of murder. He did in order to cover up the theft of over $6,000.00 from the motel he managed. Money he was going to use to get his girlfriend a boob job. Just read the transcripts if you want to know the truth.
Be consistent. If Richard Glossip was condemned to die on the dubious testimony of a drug-addicted liar, thief, and murderer, then surely his life may be spared on the testimony of those who swear that the actual murderer, Justin Sneed, bragged about having lied to the cops and to prosecutors in order to save himself from the needle.
You have no real evidence to say beyond a reasonable doubt that Glossip was in any way involved in murder.
Prater’s harassment of witnesses went far over the line of what is ethical or acceptable, and I hope that folks in OK try to hold him accountable for his abuse of authority.
That said, those 2 witnesses’ stories are NOT evidence of Glossip’s innocence, and focusing on them distracts from more compelling objections to Glossip’s execution, especially the destruction of evidence and Choi’s false testimony.
And to be honest:
also our german media draw hands full of doubts in this case:
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/todesstrafe-in-den-usa-der-umstrittene-fall-richard-glossip-a-1052943.html
or even here:
http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/todesstrafe-giftspritze/richard-glossip-soll-hingerichtet-werden-42760846.bild.html
But also other german media report about this case.
President Obama has no legal authority to intervene. The Supreme Court does, theoretically, but it won’t.
not true. If he wanted to he could issue a Presidential Pardon.
And the biggest thing is: it seems, that Prater intimidats witnesses who can proove this innocence of Glossip:
http://kfor.com/2015/09/23/glossip-attorneys-david-prater-intimidating-innocence-witnesses/
“OKLAHOMA COUNTY, Okla. – With only 7 days left until Richard Glossip’s rescheduled execution, his attorneys are scrambling daily to find new information to prove his innocence.”
“Late Wednesday afternoon, attorney Mark Henricksen filed a notice, letting the courts know they think the state is intimidating their witnesses that could prove Glossip’s innocence.”
“Glossip is sentenced to death for the 1997 murder of motel owner, Barry Van Treese.”
“Tuesday, Glossip’s attorneys questioned the validity of the two-week stay saying, by law, an execution date cannot be scheduled until the stay is dissolved.”
“That date should have been either 30 or 60 days after the stay is dissolved, not the 14 days that was ordered.”
“They continue to fight for their client’s innocence, calling into the question the credibility of Justin Sneed.”
“Sneed is serving a life sentence after admitting to the actual killing of Van Treese but testified Glossip ordered him to carry out the crime.”
“Glossip’s attorneys are now alleging Oklahoma county district attorney David Prater is bullying witnesses.”
“Glossips attorney said he’s been in the business for 30 years, has never had to file paperwork like he did today and it’s unusual.”
“Our cameras were rolling as Henricksen walked into the court of criminal appeals.”
“This is a very difficult case, a very stressful time,” Henricksen said. “We’re working on a short fuse, based on the court’s current deadline. We’re filling something it feels like a couple of times a day.”
“Wednesday’s filling was an action to help stop Prater from allegedly intimidating witnesses.”
“”This is very damaging to that outreach, if people are concerned they are going to be hassled by the prosecution,” Henricksen said.”
“Glossip’s attorneys said Michael Scott, a former cellmate of Sneed, who “overheard Justin Sneed laughing about framing Mr. Glossip … felt intimidated and coerced.”
“Scott was issued an arrest warrant on Tuesday for an unpaid $200 fine and not completing community service.”
“Scott was arrested in Roger’s County by “police officers with their service weapons drawn and pointed at him.”
“Documents show, while still in handcuffs, Scott “was placed in a chair in the interrogation room” and, moments later, “David Prater and an investigator with the last name of Eastbrook, then, entered the room and began interrogating Mr. Scott.”
“Documents show they allegedly asked Scott about an affidavit he signed regarding Glossip’s case.”
“To use the warrant process to conduct an interview seems intimidating, coercive and inappropriate, and so we’ve come to the court to complain about it,” Henricksen said.”
“According to documents, Prater specifically told Scott he ordered the arrest warrant “so that Scott would be forced to talk with Prater and his investigator.”
“We hope it stops,” Henricksen said. “We hope people will still come forward with any information about the credibility or the lack of credibility of Justin Sneed.”
In this cage, I urge President Obama to stop this execution, because there are so many doubts open in this case and this trial has not been fair at all. Also Prater should be investigated on and all prooved need to be brought to court and witnessed there!
And I also say: death-penalty is never a solution! Death-penalty is cruel, barbaric, inhumane, insane and uncivilized und not christian! And I also urge President Obama to see this internet-petition to save Glossips live:
https://www.change.org/p/mary-fallin-save-richard-glossip-s-life
And to be honest: because of all these doubts which are open in this case and because of being a hard oponent to death-penalty, I also signed this petition!
Mr. President Obama: I urge you, to stop this execution of Glossip and give hin a fair retrial which he deserves!!
Glossip has had 2 trials and numerous appeals… you still want more trials? The evidence is the same. He paid to have Mr. Van Treese killed.
@ The Truth (sigh…):
‘you still want more trials? ‘
YES.
‘The evidence is the same.’
NO.
‘He paid to have Mr. Van Treese killed.’
WE DON’T KNOW.
Everything you need to know are in video testimony of Richard Glossip himself.
In one videotaped interview with detectives on January 8, 1997, Mr. Glossip denied knowing anything about Sneed’s involvement in the killing of Van Treese. Soon after, Richard Glossip began selling his possessions and told people he was leaving town. Searches of Glossip’s place an person revealed he possessed approximately $1,200.00 in cash, which he claimed was money from vending machines proceeds. Richard’s girlfriend, D-Anna Wood, testified that the money was for breast implants for her birthday. She had earlier told the desk clerk Billye Hooper that “Rich” had promised her an engagement ring, a Camaro, a boob job and a baby by the time she was 25.
Richard said the money was to hire an attorney, even though he hadn’t been arrested yet. Justin Sneed also possessed approximately $1,700.00 in cash.
In his second interview, Glossip told police that Sneed did in fact tell him that he killed Van Treese. Richard Glossip then denies ever going into Room 102, but does say he assisted with repairing the window. He said he never saw Van Treese’s body in the room.
Richard Glossip’s finger prints weren’t found anywhere in the room or the window he said he helped repair. Even though the management the entire motel, Room 102 was cleaned of all his finger prints.
It’s all there if one takes the time to read it.
hi christina,
exactly this is the case! We need a clean new trial and the destroyed prooves need to be recreated. And that evidences have been destroyed in this case, can be read here:
http://www.okcfox.com/story/30038221/fox-25-investigation-state-destroyed-evidence-in-glossip-case-before-any-appeal-was-decided
And the third point is, that death-penalty is never a solution! So I want the governor of Oklahoma to change the sentence to lifelong prison and to set for a clean new trial!!
@ The Truth
I have read the court-transcripts on the homepage of this case. And I am honest to say, that I do not trust Sneeze in one point! And: in other media, Sneeze hase been found a lier.
Just look here:
http://www.okcfox.com/story/30038221/fox-25-investigation-state-destroyed-evidence-in-glossip-case-before-any-appeal-was-decided
or even here:
https://www.readfrontier.com/investigation/two-truths-and-a-lie-what-records-interviews-reveal-about-richard-glossips-murder-conviction/
“Sneed’s family members have told The Frontier that a letter that Glossip’s supporters have claimed was written by Sneed’s daughter was authored on her behalf by a group of supporters taking advantage of his then-teenage daughter’s lack of knowledge about the case.”
“The letter alleges that Sneed has regrets about his testimony, and wants to recant.”
And read on…
So we see: evidence has been destroyed in this case, because Sneeds family want to see Glossip dead for personal and political reasons!
@ The Truth,
yes, because evidences have been destroyed in this case for personal and political reasons by Sneeds family! And also Sneed wants to change story it seems. Look here:
https://www.readfrontier.com/investigation/two-truths-and-a-lie-what-records-interviews-reveal-about-richard-glossips-murder-conviction/
So nobody knows, if Glossip is really guilty. And allow me one question:
what if you execute Glossip and find out afterwards, that he was innocent??
Oklahomans, please!
Don’t execute probably 100% innocent Richard Glossip!
Don’t do that to him and to yourselves!
Christiann
hi christiann
I see it the same way and I am happy that so many users are already fioghting on change.org for him:
https://www.change.org/p/mary-fallin-save-richard-glossip-s-life
This should be pushed over to President Obama! Only Obama can stop this state Oklahoma from wrongdoeing… What if Glossip is really innocent?? Glossip did not get a fair trial in my opinion. Glossip should get a new fair retrial!!
And so I think, everything must be done to get Glossip stay off execution!! Death penalty is never a solution!! Death penalty is cruel, barbaric, uncivilized and not christian.
He’s not innocent. Not even 1% let alone 100%.
Read the trial transcripts.
I think Prater should have some more investigation done on him
THIS GOES TO SHOW HOW CRITICAL IT IS TO STOP OKLAHOMA FROM EXECUTING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. DAVID PRATER IS A LIAR AND A DECEIVER AND SHOULD BE BARRED FOR HIS UNLAWFUL ROLL IN BEING UNJUST IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. I’VE SEEN HIS WORK FIRST HAND AND THE WAY HE TWISTS THE TRUTH FOR HIS OWN PERSONAL GAIN .. THIS MAN IS A CRIMINAL OF THE WORST KIND. HE USES HIS POWER IN A UNJUSTLY MANNER THAT MAY HAVE RESULTED IN MANY UNFAIR COURT CASES AND THE SENTENCES GIVEN. NOT TO MENTION THE POSSIBLY OF EXECUTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. THIS IS A TRAGIC SITUATION THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED THE LIVES OF MANY PEOPLE BEING TORN APART BY THE SELFISH CRIMINAL ACT OF A APPOINTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY. I HOPE HE IS TAKEN OUT OF OFFICE AND ALL HIS CASES REVIEWED. BECAUSE OF HIS ACTIONS HE’S CAUSED A GIANT MESS WITH THE WHOLE JUDISICIAL SYSTEM
Tomorrow will truly be a horrible day in what is left of our humanity! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE JUDGES, PROSECUTORS, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS AND LAW INFORCMENT! They are truly very very sick people because even after the evidence (or lack of) shows reasonable doubt they are still adamant that they can do no wrong. To live in a society, government, system or what ever you want to call it where you can receive a slap on the hand for murder and a death sentence for innocence is right down barbaric. Richard Glossip will be paying the biggest price for someone else’s actions.
Thank you for being the voice of reason in this farcical/tragical miscarriage of justice. Another stunning and hard hitting article by you. Well done. The conduct of Oklahoman State officials (Police and AG) are actually criminal. The ‘bullshit PR stunt’ is actually that of the despicable AG. I have sent a few e-mails to you – no response, but know you’re busy. For evil to succeed, good people must remain silent. Cape Town, South Africa
Oklahoma has a long history of high level corruption at city, state and county levels. The corruption is especially concentrated in courts, cops and corrections–that’s where the biggest chunk of revenues is concentrated .