During Saturday’s debate, Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton said the U.S. should commission a “Manhattan-like project,” a reference to the secret World War II-era atomic bomb endeavor, to address the alleged threat encryption poses to law enforcement. She also admitted she doesn’t actually understand the technology.
Clinton was largely parroting a popular FBI talking point that’s been highly publicized following the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino — that encryption is law enforcement’s Achilles heel in preventing crime — though there’s no evidence encryption enabled the plots to go undetected.
Encryption is basically math — in some cases installed by default — that protects online communications and sensitive information from being intercepted and exploited, both in transit and at rest on devices. End-to-end encryption garbles messages into random characters and makes it so that the message is only decipherable by the receiver — who has the key to decrypt it. In this case, even companies can’t hand over plain text of their customers’ messages.
And because of that, law enforcement argues, the government needs some sort of a way in — a “backdoor,” “front door,” or “golden key” — to stop the bad guys in their tracks. For months, FBI Director James Comey has been proclaiming his wish for some sort of magical solution to allow law enforcement access to encrypted communications. Comey has repeatedly insisted that smart people working on technology simply need to try harder, or be incentivized properly.
But technologists and cryptographers have been saying for years that it’s impossible — without severely handicapping the protection encryption affords its users. Clinton gave no details on what an encryption Manhattan Project would involve, except uniting the techies in Silicon Valley with government spooks.
Clinton’s statements about encryption echoed Comey’s earlier statements. “I would hope that, given the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has and the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement, that there could be a Manhattan-like project, something that would bring the government and the tech communities together to see they’re not adversaries, they’ve got to be partners,” Clinton said during Saturday’s Democratic debate.
“It doesn’t do anybody any good if terrorists can move toward encrypted communication that no law enforcement agency can break into before or after. There must be some way,” she insisted.
Clinton acknowledged the concern that installing “backdoors” would create a hole in encryption that could be exploited for malicious purposes. But she added, “I don’t know enough about the technology … to be able to say what [the solution] is.”
Clinton continued to say that “law enforcement is blind — blind before, blind during, and unfortunately, in many instances, blind after” a crime because of encryption.
Yet the government has never presented a clear case where encryption has crippled a critical terrorism investigation, and law enforcement has other investigative tools in its arsenal — like traditional informants and tips, for example. Even when encryption is present, there is evidence that the FBI and other government agencies can hack into suspects’ computers and phones — bypassing encryption entirely.
Clinton, while clinging to the fantasyland technical solution, did not call for a legislative solution. “I would not want to go to that point,” she said when moderator Martha Raddatz asked if she would “force” Apple CEO Tim Cook into giving law enforcement a key into encrypted communications “by making it law.”
The White House, facing pressure from the civil liberties and digital rights communities, has also decided not to seek legislation — for now.
FBI Director Comey, in the meantime, has switched tactics from wishing for a magical technical solution to calling on companies to simply change their business model and stop using end-to-end encryption altogether — a scarier proposition in many ways.
“It’s not a technical issue,” he said during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing earlier this month. “It’s a business model question. The question we have to ask is: Should they change their business model?”
Raddatz, ABC News’ chief global affairs correspondent, framed her questions in the debate as being about encryption as a “new terrorist tool used in Paris.” But criminals and terrorists have been using encryption for years, and encryption is also used legitimately by people around the world to protect sensitive information.
Clinton’s comments drew swift criticism from technologists and civil liberties advocates. Apple CEO Tim Cook, whose products provide strong encryption by default, including via iMessage, went on 60 Minutes over the weekend to reaffirm his view that a backdoor could cause more potential harm than good. “If there’s a way to get in, then somebody will find the way in,” Cook said. “I don’t believe that the trade-off here is privacy versus national security,” Cook told Charlie Rose. “I think that’s an overly simplistic view. We’re America. We should have both.”
Edward Snowden, who told The Intercept in an emailed statement in July that Apple should continue fighting the government to preserve encryption, also criticized Clinton’s debate remarks. “Hillary just terrified everyone with an Internet connection,” he tweeted.
“No matter how good the reason, if the U.S. sets the precedent that Apple has to compromise the security of a customer in response to a piece of government paper, what can they do when the government is China and the customer is the Dalai Lama?” he wrote to The Intercept in July.
“Clinton backs off on backdoors but still insists we need a Manhattan Project-level effort to find magical ‘solution’ to encryption. #sigh,” tweeted Kevin Bankston, director of the Open Technology Institute.
In an email to The Intercept, Amie Stepanovich, U.S. policy manager for digital rights group Access Now, argued that devoting resources to cracking encryption would only serve to harm secure online communications.
“The first Manhattan Project was born out of war and resulted in the ultimate weapon of mass destruction, creating a world where we are ever on the brink of destruction,” she wrote. “A second Project, aimed at undermining our digital security, is, quite simply, a horrible notion.”
Top photo: Hillary Clinton during the December 19 Democratic presidential debate in New Hampshire.
What I think is happening is that any marketable encryption that is a business or generating revenue will be purchased discreetly by the US gov or by one of the remaining 5 eyes. They won’t have to worry about court orders because they own the key………
I don’t think you understand how encryption works, or really what a “key” is. This comment is just inanity… even if the gov or some other Eve purchases all encryption technologies, key creation and exchange is still a secure process.
We should clearly publish a bill that would enable NSA to search and follow anyone they choose and be able to read or listen to content. HOWEVER, we should make it totally illegal for anyone to use any information found for any reason other than fighting terrorism. If you choose to spy on your ex or blackmail someone, off to jail you go. So, don’t do it. A public board should be set up and funded to respond to any accusations of misconduct.
You are forgetting that therein lies a loophole that can be exploited. If anyone, even the government, is given the upper hand, privacy is eroded.
Here is how much none of these people know about encryption. Total control over cryptography is impossible to implement without outlawing mathematics.
I have to wonder if whoever wrote that comment for her knew anything about the Manhattan Project. Is she really drawing an analogy between nuclear weapons and breaking encryption? What kind of fallout can we expect from this project? Something dangerous for thousands of years possibly?
Hillary so far has expressed a desire to chip away at the 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, and 4th Amendment rights we all hold. Do you think she can find a way to go after the remaining six before her coronation next year?
This woman is a civil rights menace. She was even happy as first lady while her husband presided over the creation of Incarceration Nation. Haven’t we learned enough yet?
The reason encryption is effective unbreakable is because of mathematical discoveries made in the past 45 years. (“Effectively unbreakable” simply means that decrypting an encrypted message actually *is* possible but is so difficult a task that it would take all of the computers in the world working together for millions or billions of years to complete the decryption process.)
The math used in today’s encryption is published. You can go to the library and read it. How can the government legislate against what is already known? Burn all the libraries?
The math is out and known. The proverbial cat is out of the bag. You can’t un-ring a bell. …You can’t make people forget about the math that makes encryption work!
Millions of people have software development Integrated Development Environments (IDEs) on their computer. If the government tries to make popular encryption programs illegal, many people will simply write their own.
RE: “She also admitted she doesn’t actually understand the technology.”
Wow. One of the first true things she’s said about herself in a long, long time.
RE: “Clinton was largely parroting a popular FBI talking point that’s been highly publicized following the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino — that encryption is law enforcement’s Achilles heel in preventing crime.”
Law enforcement’s Achilles heel is their total incompetence. The lack of effort put into Malik’s K-1 visa is gross negligence. Similarly, the FBI’s lack of effort in looking into the Boston Marathon bombers is ludicrous. And when it is clear teams of trained, experienced fighters will be attempting to enter the country illegally, you can’t help but notice that the US government is still keeping border security a low priority. When obvious red flags appear and Federal law enforcement does such a sloppy job, it’s no wonder people are angry.
I don’t think that most people are scared of terrorism; I think that they are angry.
Instead of encryption, wouldn’t a law making all dwellings have locks that the authorities could open using a master key be more effective? These locks could be tested from outside of the dwellings, and non-compliant locks would be evidence of illegal activity necessitating an immediate search of the premises.
After a few visits in the night by the authorities on the basis of finding unauthorized locks, I sure most Americans would find the compliant locks to be less intrusive than broken doors.
This way conversations could be monitored by planting bugging devices obliviating the need for computer access except for targeted cases, where the computers could be removed if authorities believed they might be used for purposes that subvert authority.
How did police states ever function before computers? To think computer access is the only path to the security of a police state is naive in the extreme.
You think you’re engaging in hyperbole… here’s what happens:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/tsa_master_key_blueprints_leaked/
Thanks,
End-of-satire, meet End-of-hyperbole.
These fools talk about thing they have no knowledge of….WHY can’t you stop hackers? or why not try to stop viruses…Microsoft leaves the back door open for their up-dates…….HOW STUPID ARE YOU??
This reaction to Clinton’s remarks seems a bit over the top. As I see it, she’s just advocating that effort be placed, and money spent, on applying technology to the problem. She admits she doesn’t have a solution or know enough to guide such an effort. I applaud efforts, like this article, to explain how encryption really works and the tradeoffs between security and privacy, but it doesn’t make sense to attack this basically good idea to get our smartest people on the problem. We shouldn’t allow backdoors to encryption but there’s a lot of other avenues to explore.
Mrs. Clinton’s approach to addressing a privacy-security concern is the typical feel-good, and disingenuous plan that one would expect from a politician. That is why the reaction is not over the top.
If one bothers for a moment to think, the demagoguery becomes evident.
The Manhattan project was addressing an engineering task the physics of which was known and established. The security-privacy-encryption issue is, first and foremost, an issue of personal freedoms for which our government cannot define through an engineering “Manhattan-like” project. Defense and security contractors, the supporters of the Clinton campaign, would like you to believe that this is a purely technological issue. It is not! There are technological issues, but the social, political, and legal issues are far more important.
” We shouldn’t allow backdoors to encryption but there’s a lot of other avenues to explore.”
Like what avenues? Just destroying the very concept of privacy or freedom of thought? How about the Constitution?
Look Paul, if I whisper in someone’s ear because I don’t want anyone else to hear what I’m saying, it’s because I want my conversation to be private! The same goes for my conversation via the internet with email.
How does the obvious escape you, Hillary Clinton, and James Comey?
Because it’s a complete technical non-starter. We have about as much control over what encryption the terrorists and criminals use as we did over the Germans developing enigma in WWII. Even if you force Facebook to have compromised encryption, then criminals just wouldn’t use Facebook (or they would simply encrypt their communications themselves with a pure algorithm before pasting encrypted text into Facebook). See comments by “Neil Donovan” or “cholliet” who are right on. Hilary and others are basically suggesting that we can stop people from sending encrypted communications altogether by developing a crappier encryption algorithm than those that are already widely and freely available. It is basically nonsense.
exactly!
whats to stop you or i from creating one-time-pad encryptions to use in our text messages to each other?
Juniper’s VPN backdoor: buggy code with a dose of shady NSA crypto
Or, how one backdoor was actually two
Juniper has issued patches for what it says is unauthorized code found in its firewalls running its ScreenOS. Credit: Juniper
Lucian Constantin
IDG News Service Dec 22, 2015 9:54 AM
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3017803/security/the-juniper-vpn-backdoor-buggy-code-with-a-dose-of-shady-nsa-crypto.html
In the past I had a web site documenting how apple has spied on me. Screen shots and logs posted for all to see. I just put it in lock-down. Apple is part of the problem, wifi is part of the problem and politicians as well. Everyone is spying on everyone else; to what end? From here I’m going to NetBSD for a new OS. Get hardwired, use encryption and dream of Freedom or remember what it was like.
gilbertwsatchell.com
I think Ferguson and Baltimore police folks can teach federal law enforcement a trick or two. Instead of trying to identify terrorists by decrypting their terror calls, it would be much smarter to first identify the terrorist by some voodoo techniques and then create the decrypted messages to nail him. Even if he wasn’t sending terror messages he sure would be doing so soon.
notice, not a threat to the people, just to law enforcement.
Get lost Clinton. You’re a lying satan loving degenerate, who is a complete disgrace. Do you really think you’re going to be president?
You misoverestimate your tribe.
When was the last time The Great American People™ opted for something better than the usual venality?
Hillary is so frightened of having her e-mails public she choose a private server for official use during her entire time as Sec. of State. The NSA and affiliated agencies have the means to intercept almost all phone and internet traffic with or without warrant. This tempest in a tea pot about encryption is little more than political posturing in an election year.
Anyone want to let Hillary know that she’s not going to be President? Her time would be better spent working on her resume instead of trying to blow smoke up people’s ***es.
So Hillary Clinton thinks there is a magic pony -just like James Comey?
Why doesn’t she go to work for Yahoo where she can be with her fellow jackass Kaye Foley?
Hillary I’m glad you set aside this time to humiliate yourself in public!
But she added, “I don’t know enough about the technology … to be able to say what [the solution] is.”
…Clinton continued to say that “law enforcement is blind — blind before, blind during, and unfortunately, in many instances, blind after” a crime because of encryption…
And Hillary not only are YOU blind, but you are stupid, a liar, and one can only hope -become mute!
…But she added, “I don’t know enough about the technology … to be able to say what [the solution] is.”
The solution is: Stay out of subjects that you know nothing about Hillary!
So to recap about the 2016 election…
This is the ‘best’ jackass the democrats can come up with?
So the U.S. gets either a jackass that (admittedly) knows nothing about encryption (but tries to speak like she does), or they get an unenlightened billionaire bigot from New York that seems to think it’s an honor to be praised by Vladimir Putin.
Don’t buy either of these New Yorkers!
VOTE INDEPENDENT! Spread the word NOW! There might not be any country to go back to if either of these fools win -because of your vote.
The Irony. Always lost on Yankee Doodles.
America hijacks the IT industry, copyrights it to death, halts real competition in its tracks, makes billions if not trillions, owns an unassailable controlling stake in its present and future profitability and development, monopolises digital communications and traffic, breaks its own laws to spy on its own citizens and everyone else YET it is powerless to stop the use of sophisticated encryption even when it now has new super-super-super computers to descramble just about anything.
This is NOT the US government being frustrated by criminals using encryption technology, it is just the US government being frustrated by the sheer amount of time it will take to not get non-criminals’ digital communications all nicely presented in quickly searchable and sortable formats without de-encryption errors so it can spy on and steal the rest of the world’s business and technological ideas.
Awwwwwwww diddums.
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I wonder what Hillary would say if we used that back door to break open her personal email server and show all the things she’s been hiding.
The Manhattan Project, ironically, was a “Top Secret” project that employed 120,000 Americans. Naturally, all but the elite few were even aware that they were working on development of a WMD. Even Truman didn’t know about it until he became POTUS. Even more ironically, The Manhattan Project was/is the ultimate act of terrorism. Violence, or the threat of violence in order to achieve a political purpose. The U.S. government and military industrial complex are the #1 Terrorists in the world….by a long shot.
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Hillary Clinton is a stereotypical corporate Democrat. In order to keep the masses beholden to the almighty corporations, she’d love to create more of a police state. This proposal will sit very well with her corporate masters, if they didn’t propose it to begin with.
You don’t have corporate masters if you stop building tax-engorged Big Governments big enough to allocate crony capital to those corporations.
Corporations can’t legally pick the pockets of the middle class at the muzzle of official enforcement. That’s what progressive-leftist Big Government does for them.
We’re the progressive left, and we’re just mystified and beside ourselves as to how Big Government can fund a police- and surveillance-state with our Big Government resources that are paid for by the tribute that we demand from the public to build it up. Gosh, it must be somebody else.
Never mind that corporations not only had the resources and brain trusts to put together the keyboard you type on at a price point that allowed you to buy one, but they also demand strong encryption for they customers they court.
But I’m a progressive leftist, and I just like saying the word “corporations.”
Jeff, you advocated for the build-up of the biggest corporation by far–one with its own out-sized pay and benefits scale, its own board, its own officers, that you squeal is increasingly unaccountable to you. It’s a public corporation, when that can extract revenue from you whether it sells you something you want or not. It’s so big that it can turn and give money to whoever it wants.
You are idiotically pretending that
“the left” created the current fake government
as if the right wing privatization and militarization
which is devouring the majority of taxes
is merely coincidental.
You may believe that you are “underscore”-ing,
but what you are really doing is displaying the key
components of
willful ignorance and hubris upon which this
neo-fascist assault depends.
You are truly “exceptional” in your dimness.
A man after my own heart!
Zeus is proud of your use of the word Hubris.
What libertarian Randians envision for the future is what the ultimate goal of Marxism was…total freedom of the proletariat. What a howl!
Comparing the drive for a golden encryption-breaking key to the Manhattan Project is ludicrous and betrays a complete misunderstanding of what encryption is and does.
Encryption is simply way to create a space of privacy online; the same kind of privacy you get in your bedroom, doctor’s office, lawyer’s office, your car, a hotel room, a restaurant booth, a bathroom, confessional, or boardroom.
If you are against strong encryption, you may as well be against these places. After all, they are where people discuss private business ideas, their health, finances, their private emotions, legal matters, their trade secrets, and yes, sometimes their crimes.
If you are against encryption out of fear for terrible things might be said or done in private, then you are really saying you don’t want people to have private conversations anywhere–unless a government-accessible recording device is already in place. (OMG, What are those two people saying to each other in that restaurant booth over there? Maybe they were discussing terror! Ack!!)
Do you want it to be illegal for two people to walk in the woods and talk to each other? It’s the same thing as banning encrypted chat.
People against encryption essentially want a recording device in every bedroom, boardroom, hotel room, and bathroom–which we will just trust it will never abuse. (Or we simply don’t care because nothing ever happens in some of our bedrooms, right?)
It is not a slippery slope, people; it’s a cliff. (#CliffsofInsanity.) The encryption question is no smaller than this: Should private places exist, or should they not?
This golden government-only-backdoor-Manhattan-Project key is a secondary issue. That’s about making sure the recording device in your bedroom is accessible by the government ONLY and no one else. Security people say that’s not possible right now, but let’s say maybe it could be–with certain air-gapped security protocols. Is that what we are going to move heaven and earth to strive for? That the government gets to record our private conversations everywhere at all times so long as it can guarantee us that the government, and only the government, will have access?
That sounds like such a great compromise.
Great summary Jim!
Comey should click his ruby slippers together three times, hit himself in the head three times with a baseball bat, and fall into the wishing well, and a “solution” is bound to appear.
From what I’ve read of him, he’s done that already.
What a joke. Quantum computers are ALREADY massively speeding up solution of an NP-complete problem ( http://www.pcworld.com/article/3013214/hardware/nasa-google-reveal-quantum-computing-leap.html ) and factorizing encryption keys is just another NP-hard problem. Don’t tell me such a Manhattan Project is impossible when it’s already most of the way finished.
No. You’re technically incorrect, but you’re also missing the point of the discussion. (The D-Wave Quantum Computer isn’t designed to solve NP-complete problems, and while factoring isn’t NP-complete, it doesn’t solve that either, and even if somebody made a quantum computer that could solve crypto-related problems, we’d just change everything to much less convenient algorithms to continue to provide privacy.)
The problem that Comey and Clinton want to solve, using The Magic Of Political Bullying, is to let people have enough security that businesses can make money selling stuff to consumers, and the US government can have enough security that nobody can eavesdrop on them, but not let people or other governments have enough security to have privacy if the US government wants to eavesdrop on them, and it’s been revealed, either officially or by insiders like Edward Snowden or journalists like Duncan Campbell, that they really want to hoover up all international communication and as much domestic communication as they can legally or illegally get away with.
They like to pretend that it’s about terrorism, or sometimes that it’s about child pornography, but in practice almost all of the US government’s legal wiretaps have been about The War On Drugs, and the next most common target has been illegal gambling (you’re shocked?) The real question is how much illegal wiretapping is going on, because that’s what the ability to break encryption is really good for. (You don’t need to break the encryption at a bank if you’ve bothered getting a warrant – you just take it to the bank and tell them to provide the data you want.)
There are so many inconsistencies in the candidates’ and Government’s position it will positively make your head swim. They talk about cyber security and yet the database containing the personal information of everybody who has had a clearance or background check in the last 20 years was stolen – no mention of securing their own machines, much less what a less than adequate means of encryption will mean for future cracking attempts.
Then there is the fable about their hands being tied because the bad guys use codes they cannot crack. Pure bullshit. Example 1: The Boston Marathon bombers communicated in the clear, and the FSA told the FBI that they were terrorists. But hey, who is going to trust the Russians? Example 2: San Bernardino. Woman posting on various social media for what, two years about her desire to kill people, and nobody picks up on it?
The only thing Hillary said that was true is that she does not understand. But like every US politician I know of, she does not allow that lack of understanding prevent her from proposing some pie in the sky program that will achieve nothing. Oh well, Reagan had Star Wars, why shouldn’t Hillary have her massive waste of money, too?
The article I linked specifically mentioned the “travelling salesman problem”, which is as canonical an NP-complete problem as there is, AFAIK. True, I’m not a mathematician, but I went back to the paper it reffed ( http://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.02206v2.pdf ) and found “NPP has many practical applications including multiprocessor scheduling and the minimization of VLSI circuit size and delay, public key cryptography and others…” NPP is a “number partitioning problem”, and they call it “a practical problem that fulfills these criteria” – the criteria they’re referring to include “2) the problem is representable on hardware that can
be built in the near future. 3) Quantum annealing offers a runtime advantage”. Therefore, I don’t accept your assertion that I’m wrong on the technical aspect.
I also think your bland reassurance that people can just switch encryption methods comes up short. Think about it … right now NO ONE is using whatever magical harder-than-NP method you’re thinking of. And the quantum computers are already being developed practically for breaking them. Given five years, do you think they won’t have a way to crack the crypto? But it’s not five years, because a) there’s probably a secret program running in parallel to the public effort that was reported in my link, which is years ahead of it, and b) there will be considerable delay even after the compromise is known before people really make the switch. And whatever they’re sending now is on the record, in the archive just waiting its turn to get decoded. So I don’t see a whole hell of a lot of protection there.
“Quantum cryptography is considered a fully secure encryption method, but researchers have discovered that this is not always the case.”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151218161225.htm
The Manhattan Project? The best thing to come out of that was when the atomic spies gave the secrets to the USSR…ensuring an uneasy balance of power that kept the United States from willy-nilly using atomic weapons whenever it suited them. They got away with the two in Japan.
There are stories about hackers infiltrating government systems all the time. If there’s some sort of “golden key” I bet it would take days for it to fall into the hands of criminals.
Do you believe the
“government systems”
are not already in
“the hands of criminals?”
Maybe having different criminals running things would
be an improvement.
When Clinton says,
“I would not want to go to that point”
it means
“I would not want to go to that point” if I was a person
who I am not.
Like all of the corporate owned candidates,
“It depends what the meaning of the word ‘Is’ is.”
Also,
If any of these fakers were serious about reducing
the numbers of “terrorists”
they would be reining in the Pentagon,
the Saudis and their allies,
Israel,
and the amounts of carbon spewing resources consumed
under the arrogant “american way of life.”
You will not hear any of them dare to really challenge
the global corporate capitalist agenda which is
a major component of increasing terrorism.
I think, at last count, that is now reason #398 why I would never vote for former Sec. of State/Sen. Clinton.
She’s a Republican neoliberal warmongering hack who likes gay folks, women, children and old folks. But the latter issues are about the depth and breadth of her “liberalism”. Like Pres. Obama, instead of strengthening all citizens’ earned benefits programs (like Medicare and SS), she’d jump at the first chance she got to gut all of those programs in the name of a “grand bargain on entitlement” reform. And that would spell disaster for what remains of the American middle and working classes economic prospects.
About the only other difference between her and the modern GOP (other than rhetoric and the fact she isn’t a hard core bigot deep in her soul) is that she’d likely nominate some Supreme Court justices who are ever so slightly left of the ConservoCranks (Alito, Thomas and Scalia) currently holding down the ultra-conservative end of the bench. But they’d be only slightly left on “cultural issues” not economic ones. Maybe a little left on environmental/AGCC issues. And its the latter ones that can/do fundamentally change the American experience for the vast majority of Americans. The other ones are absolutely important but in a different way.
But since I don’t scare easy and have lived through Reagan, two Bushes and a Clinton already, I’m not actually dumb enough to cast a vote for a DINO like Clinton who will simply continue the ever rightward arc of this nation. It’s going to take a couple of more generations before the majority of Americans start asking the right questions and start demanding a different type of government for their tax dollars. A bought and paid for oligarchy isn’t really something you change by continuing to vote for it or hang your hat on the pipe dream of incremental change carrying the day. FDR sure as shit didn’t engage in incrementalism and he saved America from itself. Short of someone like that, and a Congress willing to back him (and the solid majority of Americans) you might as well seatbelt yourself in for a continuation of the rocky ride we’ve “enjoyed” for the last 40 + years.
Mrs. Clinton is part of the problem not the solution. Not by any political or economic metric I’m aware of and she won’t get my vote. I’ll never engage in strategic voting on behalf of someone like Clinton just to keep out the lesser neoliberal evil like a card carrying GOP member–because it’s the exact same evil.
I heard all that. Clinton’s not even a Democrat in my book. But I am starting to think that she might not even win the primary here in Oregon. She’s got some really high negatives here.
A Manhattan project sounds expensive. Why not let people use encryption, but then automatically declare them guilty if charged with a crime? It would allow civil libertarians to keep their privacy, while pleasing the tough-on-crime crowd.
You’re slipping. You got a rise out of no one? I do like the way you get down to basics.
The Paris attackers didn’t even use encryption–they used unencrypted SMS and word-of-mouth. I’d say that’s the most egregious aspect of Hillary’s lie. The media parrot again and again that the Paris attackers used encryption even though their own reports showed it to be untrue.
Hillary talks really well about many subjects she obviously knows nothing about from Syria to RomneyCare to Encryption to working Americans.
Maybe Fox News would consider hiring her to read from a teleprompter.
Sometimes I wonder if Hillary is smoking to much weed or if she is just lame.
Neither. She is a smart, willfully obstinate fearmonger in ruthless pursuit of the ultimate elite power structure.
Mixed bag…
She’s smart about self-serving financial scams, dumb at geo-strategy, smart about the health care domain, dumb about the diplomatic domain.
Smart about what’s in her self-interest. A total loser from when it comes to what’s good for the fools who are going to vote for her — at least the ones who are not buying future favors.
Elderly Hillary is a Manchurian candidate for young Hillary. This babbled nonesense is an example of where elderly Hillary can’t keep up with young Hillary’s aspirations.