A FORMER NAVY SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden and wrote a bestselling book about the raid is now the subject of a widening federal criminal investigation into whether he used his position as an elite commando for personal profit while on active duty, according to two people familiar with the case.
Matthew Bissonnette, the former SEAL and author of No Easy Day, a firsthand account of the 2011 bin Laden operation, had already been under investigation by both the Justice Department and the Navy for revealing classified information. The two people familiar with the probe said the current investigation, led by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, expanded after Bissonnette agreed to hand over a hard drive containing an unauthorized photo of the al Qaeda leader’s corpse. The government has fought to keep pictures of bin Laden’s body from being made public for what it claims are national security reasons.
The retired SEAL voluntarily provided investigators with a copy of his hard drive as part of an agreement not to prosecute him for unlawfully possessing classified material, according to the two people familiar with the deal.
The two people who spoke about the case, and other former SEALs The Intercept interviewed about Bissonnette, asked that their names not be used because they were describing an ongoing investigation and classified matters.
“I can confirm that the criminal investigation of Mr. Bissonnette for alleged wrongful handling or disclosure of classified information was closed through declination by the DOJ in August 2015,” said Robert Luskin, an attorney who represents Bissonnette.
Luskin said that he had negotiated a deal in 2014 with the Pentagon and the Justice Department to hand over to the government some of the millions of dollars in book profits Bissonnette had received.
He would not confirm Bissonnette’s possession of the bin Laden photo or whether any investigation still remains open.
Ed Buice, spokesperson for the NCIS, confirmed the ongoing investigation into Bissonnette, but declined to elaborate. “NCIS does not discuss the details of ongoing investigations,” Buice said.
During their search of his hard drive, investigators subsequently found emails and records dealing with Bissonnette’s work as a consultant while he was on active duty at SEAL Team 6. Those records, which were not part of the non-prosecution agreement, led to the widening probe. Federal investigators then became interested in whether Bissonnette’s business ventures with companies that supply military equipment — including companies whose products were used by SEAL Team 6 — were helped by his role in the elite unit’s procurement process, according to one of the people familiar with the case.
Element Group, a company Bissonnette helped set up in Virginia Beach about five years ago, is among the companies NCIS is said to be investigating. According to a former SEAL Team 6 operator familiar with Element Group’s business arrangements, the firm, which has since been shut down, designed prototypes for, and advised, private companies that make sporting and tactical equipment.
According to several former SEAL Team operators familiar with the company, Element Group also did business with at least one Defense Department contractor that sold equipment to SEAL Team 6. The defense contractor, Atlantic Diving Supply, or ADS, has military supply and equipment contracts with SEAL Team 6, according to several former SEAL Team 6 operators, as well as other parts of the departments of Defense and Homeland Security. Federal investigators have been looking into the business relationship between Element Group and ADS.
ADS did not respond to a request for comment.
According to one of the people briefed on the case, investigators have uncovered payments of at least several hundred thousand dollars from ADS to Element Group, and are trying to determine what services Bissonnette and Element Group provided to ADS. The relationship with ADS raised ethical concerns among leaders at SEAL Team 6 when they first learned about it in 2011, because ADS was a significant supplier to the unit, according to two former senior SEAL leaders.
Investigators have sought to understand if Bissonnette’s role at SEAL Team 6 as a liaison for the command to suppliers of technology and equipment might have been influenced by his business contracts, according to the two people familiar with the probe. Bissonnette’s position often put him in direct contact with manufacturers and suppliers outside the military in order to assess and evaluate what equipment was needed for classified training exercises and missions.
“Biss was part of the procurement process,” said a former SEAL Team 6 operator who has been interviewed by federal investigators about his relationship with Bissonnette. “It was natural for him to deal with companies making our gear.”
Bissonnette enlisted four teammates to join Element Group as consultants, according to several former members of SEAL Team 6. One SEAL who joined the company will soon retire from the military as a result of his involvement with Bissonnette and Element Group. That SEAL — who was also on the bin Laden raid — was given a non-judicial punishment by the Navy that ended his military career but allows for an honorable discharge, according to one of the two people familiar with the case.
“The goal [of Element Group] was to work with the sporting industry,” said the former SEAL Team 6 operator who has been interviewed by investigators. Element Group, for example, “designed prototypes for sleeping bags and a tent system” that would be sold commercially.
“The goal was to become a commercial enterprise,” the former operator said, “not be involved with anything in the military or the command’s procurement process.”
Bissonnette was seen as a rising star within the SEAL Team 6 command. According to several former SEAL Team 6 operators, he was once described by his commanding officer as the model for naval commandos: smart, discriminating, and lethal. Bissonnette has said in public interviews that the same officer now refuses to speak to him.
According to two retired SEAL Team 6 operators, Bissonnette’s name has been added to a rock kept at the Virginia Beach SEAL Team 6 base. The rock is used to mark former members who are no longer welcome at the command, including former SEALs who have violated a series of unwritten codes of conduct among the unit.
The publication of No Easy Day in September 2012, just a few months after Bissonnette was honorably discharged from the Navy, broke the unwritten code of silence among members of the special operations community. SEALs sign nondisclosure agreements about their work, and even beyond the legal ramifications of violating those agreements, former SEAL Team 6 members who speak publicly about their battlefield exploits are often ostracized by their peers.
The book also led to a string of internal Navy investigations, according to several former SEAL Team 6 operators.
The publication of the book, which hit the New York Times bestseller list, took Bissonnette’s unit and the Pentagon by surprise. Bissonnette later acknowledged in interviews that he violated military rules that required him to allow the Defense Department to review his manuscript prior to publication. He has since sued an attorney he consulted, claiming the lawyer advised him the manuscript did not have to be reviewed by the Pentagon. The lawyer, Kevin Podlaski, did not respond to a message requesting comment.
Shortly after the publication of No Easy Day, Bissonnette’s unit began looking into the business dealings he had conducted while he was on active duty, according to several former SEAL Team 6 operators.
“During his exit [from the Navy] we found out he had other companies and side deals going on,” said the former SEAL Team 6 operator who has been interviewed for the investigation. “That’s when Element Group shut down.”
The Navy discovered Bissonnette organized a group of fellow SEAL Team 6 operators to consult for the video game Medal of Honor: Warfighter, and participated in the filming of promotional videos for the game in 2012, according to multiple former SEALs. In 2012, in a non-judicial process called a captain’s mast, the command punished seven active duty SEALs for revealing sensitive information and using Defense Department equipment. At least two SEALs were removed from the unit, and another two were forced to retire as a result, according to several former members of SEAL Team 6.
Bissonnette’s former SEAL Team 6 colleague who was interviewed by federal investigators said he hasn’t spoken to him since the publication of No Easy Day.
“He’s brought a lot of trouble to people who trusted him,” the colleague said.
Top photo: Torpedoman Mate 3rd Class Matthew Bissonnette, member from Navy SEAL Team 5, scans the area practicing a beach incursion during Northern Edge, San Diego, Calif., March 24, 2001.
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I think a picture of the body was necessary to be known that it existed. No body, doubts if he even died, as I myself have wondered in the past, and it wasn’t all staged, being his family such good friends with royal Saudi friends of political families in this country.
An interesting trick, given that bin Laden was already dead for many years. I hadn’t looked through all the comments, but I haven’t seen anyone say this yet. The whole thing was staged.
These SEAL’s are the House Wifes of Atantla…..Did any of these girls keep their mouths shut…..OMG.
Many are making millions as contractors in all the ongoing wars.
What is wrong with a little guy peddling an image or two of dead Osama around the street corner, and in the process, making a buck it two to pay for his hamburger?
Not fair. Methinks.
You would think that a government , after scaring every last wit out of its citizens about Osama bin Laden’s wickedness, would be happy to show its citizens PROOF, in the form of images, of Osama’s death.
What is wrong with this picture?
Looks like you have some crow to eat.
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Yes one of your famous freedom fries with “that” please! How did that go for you all war criminals? I can’t remember the last time the Bayern soccer team fan Kissinger was able to take a seat in the Allianz Arena!
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Yup there’s a really good reason the U.S. Govt has fought to keep the photos of fresh dead Bin Laden secret -war crimes trials!
If photos of Bin Laden’s face show powder burns from shots at point blank range, that would be enough evidence of an execution of an unarmed ‘suspect’. The whole lie of the raid being a “kill or capture” operation would be nakedly exposeW.
The CIA and NSA wanted to make sure he never never talked or was given a ‘fair trial’.
You better believe they are going to put the highest security rating (national security) on those photos!
I’m not sure I really believe that, simply because even if this was the case I can’t imagine anyone kicking up much of a fuss about it being the execution of an unarmed suspect. Nazi war criminals might have been given trials, but “terrorist” suspects are fair game now, no? I don’t recall a single news organization so much as blinking an eye when not only the suspects from the Paris attacks were killed by police in Belgium.
All I can say is that if he had been a general Petraeus type, he wouldn’t be in any trouble at all. His problem is that he was just doing what the big boys do, but he didn’t realize they will crush little guys for doing it. They should leave this guy alone because in the bigger picture, the mighty and the powerful do the same crap with impunity to the tune of billions. And very few of them have ever pulled a trigger in combat.
The revolving door and protection from legal persecution is only for those at the top of the military-industrial food chain, not their cannon fodder.
Cut to the bone truth. well said.
Cashin in on ur trident = crime
Well,.. That’s what you get for being a navy seal or a navy narwhal for that matter. Now, if your the U.S. Prez or a Clinton it’s a hole new ball game .., oh and if ur a high rank offixer
Why is it such an offense to possess a photo of the dead bin Laden?
Or is it that they wanted to charge him with something and this was the only charge they thought they could bring against him?
The only difference between this guy and a Mafia hit man is who he works for. Between this guy and a suicide bomber; the bomber has more guts.
Haven’t seen the Mafia or a suicide bomber working for broad societal goals, have you? Seals do awful jobs that in most cases have to be done. Whether you like it or not, there are people out there who will gut your smug ass on sight in a flash. Yes, Seals are killers, but they’re my killers and I’d rather side with them than a suicide bomber or a Mafia hit man. Who do you side with?
I do not understand why the world hates America and their patriotic heroes, they have been slaving away spreading peace and democracy abroad for over 70 years.. All hail Hydra! *cough* i mean america.
I understand totally why:because most of the time we are doing the wrong thing in places we would never be if we had a foreign policy that respected the rights of other nations. But we are in this boat and my selfish ass does not feel like getting killed in order to be morally right. I’ll take the SEAL over Isis or Mafia any day, unlike the original poster.
I have a lot more respect for the Taliban and even Daesh than I have for American or other mercenaries who go around the world murdering people in their own lands or doing it by remote control from trailers in Texas. There isn’t enough soap to wash the blood off American hands from POTUS to Seal team 6.
If I pay your airfare to Syria will you go right up to Daesh and convey your respect for them in person? Why not? If you had a choice of 1 million dollars to go sit with Daesh or no dollars to go sit with a Seal member, which would you take? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Lot of talk there, buddy.
Bob is crazy but no Daesh and no Walruses for me please! They are the same. Hate war. Saw too many dead in my lifetime. And the refugee camps stink. By the way thanks America for all those wonderful years I spent as a refugee. And no I don’t hate America,on the contrary. It’s just that it’s not the same America I used to know. The day you walk in my shoes DcentDude, you’ll understand. But as a “warrior” you will never understand what war is. I’m sure both the walruses and Daesh claim moral high grounds over each other. “Putain de guerre”!
Is the Navy trying to make an example of this man? Who cares if he made a decent living from his participation in the raid that killed Bin Laden! In my opinion, he’s a hero. Leave him the hell alone! We have bigger issues in this country than a Navy SEAL. Why investigate him when Zero Dark Thirty told basically the same story!
Who cares? It’s a bunch of silly military rules and codes. He didn’t violate anyone’s rights with his business deals.
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Gee, I downloaded a pic (3 actually) of his bullet riddled corpse from the internet. Are the Feds coming after me too?
Is this something to write about?
The US Navy brass uses the SEALs as a recruiting tool, as a tool to get budget dollars, and as a image-promoting team for enhancement of the Navy and for individual officers. They are the most publicity-hungry of the armed services. Then they wonder why the individual SEALs are trying to get attention and riches when they retire? The entire force has gone from a black ops force to a PR team. None of them keep quiet anymore. Hopefully we can still count on secrecy from our Delta Force, Marine Raiders, PJs, and the like. The SEALs are a lost cause. Too many egos and bad examples.
He is under investigation for revealing secrets, like Grandma, for example. Let’s take bets to see which one gets indicted, first, or better yet, which one doesn’t get indicted, at all.
“The government has fought to keep pictures of bin Laden’s body from being made public for what it claims are national security reasons.”
Again, this makes no sense at all. Just sounds like more brouhaha for Obama and the DNC (“Look, who we got! NO, you can’t see any proof of it!! You don’t believe us??!)
Good thing you do not run things. There is a reason for not showing the picture, but it takes people with intelligence to know this. Showing the picture creates anger which leads to more radicals and threats. Hearing someone is dead is one thing. Seeing it is another. How many times have parents etc.. heard their child has died. Then see the reaction when the body is shown. They completely break seeing the body. This is the reason no picture should be shown. You want to make comments and cry conspiracy yet the picture not being public also may have saved your very own butt from an attack..
But he didn’t make it public. And, if the government had never said anything about it, we would all be none the wiser about it.
Heros like this SEAL get harassed by this administration, while deserters like Berghdal enjoy both a promotion in rank and freedom.
That’s wrong :(
Bergdahl is being court-martialed and is facing charges that could result in a long prison term.
But SURELY you knew this.
This SEAL signed a non-disclosure agreement, which despite your hero worship, still mean something.
So did Petraeus. And Hoss Cartright.
Thanks for pointing out this unrelated information.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
And there’s nothing to see with the Clinton email scandal. Come on Sheople, move along! Nothing to see here at all.
Politicians have been doing this for decades, and the government is coming down on this guy, shame on the American government for this action.
This whole “killing Bin Ladin” story smells like total BS. No body. No pictures. Secret burial at sea. Bunch of Navy Seals involved “conveniently” die afterwards. All stinks to high heaven.
Agreed. The more lipstick they put on this pig, the uglier it looks.
We pay for every drop of what the government has or does, and yet when we want to know how our investment is doing, it’s ‘classified’. Whats wrong with this picture?
So basically he would be a great congressman?
Let’s not get too Grass Knoll here but does anyone see a pattern, speak out or have information that might harm the Administration and you are harassed and or prosecuted. Look at the media types who have been threatened with jail and complain about the least transparent administration every only to turn around a praise it on high. One could go on and on with cases of flagrant violations of the law that go unpunished when done by the “right people” while others are muzzled and some even sent to jail. I’m old enough to remember a President who was impeached and forced to resign for attempting to use the IRS for political purposes and attempting to cover up an attempt to get information on a political rival. The outrage lasted months but for this group it would be called a Tuesday, no make that Friday the day they like to leak unpleasant information so it gets missed in the weekend news cycle.
PS: If you see knowing wrong here put down the Kool-Aid you’ve had enough already and its blocking your thinking
Bin Laden died in 2001 of kidney failure. The alleged killing of him was a publicity prank to give Obama the edge going into an election. Eventually everyone will catch on to the lie. The son-in-law of a former friend was on the ship that the body (who ever is was) was dumped from and everyone had to stay below deck and no pictures were ever shown of the body. It was all a fabrication and was as truthful as Obama’s birth certificate. I suspect that is why the helicopter carrying so many SEALs from that mission was shot down and they died. Dead men tell no tales.
Good to see I’m not the only one who thinks the way you do.
OK – let’s prosecute this Navy HERO Seal because he released ONE photo that was considered classified.
NOW – WHAT ABOUT HILLARY? She’s done this same thing TIMES 500. When the heck are we going to hog tie her and put her sorry as*s in jail?
Here The FERAL GUBmint wants to prosecute a Brave Navy Seal for snapping a picture of a Dead Sub Human but they still have not ARRESTED or even INDICTED that PIG Hillary for 1000x’s more damaging Anti American activities!!!!
What pictures? What body? It’s refreshing to see so many people mocking the goobmit’s account of this propaganda piece.
The won’t release pictures due to nation security reasons? BS. They won’t release the pictures because Bin Laden died of natural causes no later than 2003, and the photos would prove that they didn’t kill him.
I am so disappointed that members of Seal Team 6 seem to be such crybabies. Looks to me like these whiners should be dismissed and the team built from scratch.
Well, you wouldn’t make it. They are all far superior to you in character, spirit and skill.
What is worse about this guy, he apparently is NOT the one who took down bin laden . So be broke the code, and placed himself falsely at the trigger. Less than honorable traits to say the least.
Yes, the SEALs should probably receive better compensation for what they do, but these guys also have a military career unmatched by the rest of us enlisted. Do they have regular 0600 PT, followed by crappy chow at the defac then company formation and accountability at 0800? Nope. Do they have time in the pit, if they forgot to shave in the morning, or failed to meet regs with their uniform and hair? Do they get issued their weapon from the armory, with no control over the weapon, accessories and even the number of magazines? Nope. Do they wear a specific vest, helmet, LCB or are they stuck with crappy TA-50 gear, where some civilian at the center tells them to reclean their entrenching tool, or replace the suspension in their helmet with a crap “I have power over you” grin on his face? I doubt that very much.
They do the toughest jobs, but they are rewarded with much better treatment and conditions that the rest of us “joes” only dream of. They are entrusted with our greatest secrets, given the best weapons and gear, which they can dictate to begin with. Companies fight over the opportunity to gear out these guys, they are treated like superstars. That should be enough to keep their honor in check. Apparently some aren’t satisfied and have to blaze their own trail, at the expense of the rest of their teams. I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent. He is supposed to be the best and brightest, and he certainly knew better, apparently he thought he was the smartest of them all, and could outwit all of NCIS. Think again bright guy, looks like Leavenworth will be your new home. Disowned, abandoned, all for a few bucks. Dumb move.
Hillary Client exposed High level Top Secret emails to the world and the are focused American Hero. Priorities America
Wait, didn’t he die in that helicopter “accident”?
Osama bin Laden died years ago! duped by Bush & Obama. All bull—–s
More left wing political correctness destroying one of our most effective military units.
Ignorant savages like this guy are what we get stuck with when we have an all-volunteer military. I don’t agree with the military draft, but it does have a major upside of forcing good people into the military instead of relying on the bottom of the barrel people who choose to sign up these days.
Kanzanian – wow, you just basically called all of the US military a bunch of dicks! My company is a DoD contractor and I’ve worked with and for various branches of the military, with everyone from Newbies to seasoned, enlisted officers… the vast majority of them are great, hard-working people! There will be some “bad apples” in every group, but for you to make that generalization about the current US military really shows your ignorance.
War profiteer!
If his last name was “Clinton”, not only would he not be prosecuted, he would be running for President and partying with some of the biggest celebrities! So what if he did influence the procurement process to benefit certain parties, and possibly himself? It happens every day! This is so common in the House and Senate that their are laws protecting them from prosecution for doing the exact same thing! Did anything that Bissonnette purchased (or recommended) fail, causing death or serious bodily injury or loss of equipment? If not, leave the guy alone!
Usama aka CIA BAGMAN “Tim OSMAN” died of kidney failure in 2001. He was a patsy., Matthew , & you are too!
You fell for the ruse…aka “obama” had just rolled out his PDF-manufactured phoney birth certificate, which was headlines at the top of the fold.
It s obama Brennan & clapper who should be charged, not gullible Matthew.
Obama is a fraud & called that, “White House privilege”
Arrest the crimninal sociopath coward!
Total bullshit. The man put his life on the line. But it’s ok to attack him. Bullshit!!,! Attack Hillary for letting Amercians die and lie the the WORLD! And she still free!
And we are supposed to believe that a faceless body is OBL? Suckers!
Have you heard anything from him since?
I just finished his book and he very clearly states that he was behind the shooter… that he did not shoot OBL. I think this is an editorial error or he has changed his story from what is written in the book.
Leaking information is disallowed unless the current regime needs it for political gains or smears.
Funny he is one of two claiming to have shot UBL, I think I believe the other guy, due t this guys lack of integrity.
Regardless of anyone’s politics on this, I hope we can all agree that being a SEAL is about more than the individual. He’s there to serve. I was under the impression that SEALS are expected to have a ton of integrity (and I bet most do). This guy is lame
Typical move for anyone connected to the Obama administration. Point Instant Guilt fingers at someone else. Everyone knows…OBAMA SHOT Bin Laden, and that’s part of his LYING LEGACY. Think about it. They want to Punish Petraius, but look the other way for Hillary. So they destroy the military, or anyone that makes them look bad…for being such perpetual LIARS.
This guy is a hero. So, he is not perfect. Who is? The government will be shooting itself in the foot for prosecuting him. Likewise, General Petraeus should not have been prosecuted. Great men often have flaws and often make mistakes. Maybe, the Seal Code of Conduct and American law is too restrictive when it leads to the fall of America’s best. What we have here is a case of lesser men with OCPD judging men who are greater than themselves.
Undoubtedly, the same standards will be used to prosecute Hillary Clinton et al in the State Department guilty of the same sort of crimes. Yeah. No. Fucking fascist government that we have. Eh?
This article confirms the fears that Omidyar’s company would carry the propaganda water for the established status quo. Does the Seal have photos of OBL’s dialysis machine? This article is another layer of bullshit to reinforce the original lies about the raid. OBL was not there.
Obama will make a fortune on his memoir regarding Bin Laden and his time as Commander and Chief.
Apparently all people are created equal, but some are more equal than others. If you’re a mere Navy Seal, you are held responsible for sharing classified intel. If you’re the former first lady and Secretary of State, you get a free pass to email all the classified intel your little heart desires. And if you profit from the sharing of that intel, you get to set up a nice little laundering operation to process all the “contributions” to your “foundation”. Sounds like someone I’d love to put in the Oval Office (said no rational American ever).
Sooo! What applies to him will also apply to Hillary for profiting from her time as Secretary of State. Right!
Bin Laden died nearly 16 years ago.
But let’s look the other way with Hillary’s classified snafu.
I do not know why he can not profit as a result of his position, our elected office holders and bureaucrats ( Corruptocrats) certainly profit from theirs.
“Luskin said that he had negotiated a deal in 2014 with the Pentagon and the Justice Department to hand over to the government some of the millions of dollars in book profits Bissonnette had received.”
You could have ended the article right here. This is what it all boiled down to.
Let the witch hunt continue. Let’s distract everyone from BO’s gloating and claiming responsibility for the kill.
To revise history we must eliminate those who conflict with govt truth. Remember JFK?
OBL was not killed in the raid. He died many years before the raid. The Seals that know this died in a “surprise” attack. Their helicopter was shot down, they were set up.
The Taliban should file a lawsuit ? Claiming a Hate Crime and Workplace Violence !
Purely set up to reconfirm their propaganda BS about him even being killed. Sheeply nothing to see here.
While this Seal violated the silence that Seal teams commit themselves to on most of their mission activities, how is this any different than the Command-in-Chief/President from profiting wildly after his term in office by doing speeches, writing memoirs and the like. Clinton made millions and still is doing this and Obama is likely to follow in his footsteps. What hypocrisy!
This is nothing more than, the government doing its best to use various means to shut someone up threw Threat & Intimidation and then the governments doing its best to Destroy that person(s) life.
This is how they handle everyone, Whistle Blowers or other wise, who try to let the American USA people know what is really going on in government cover ups.
You can bury your head in the sand and pretend it does not exist, OR demand our Constitution w/ Bill of Right is enforced.
Dave Jones
USMC – Peace Officer Retired
This is pretty comical since the Obama admin gave classified info to Hollywood to make Obama look good. Is Obama going to be prosecuted for enriching himself with classified info?
This is how the Taqiyya in Chief treats a true American hero.
What a shame, well at least we have more eveidence of Obama’s allegiance.
Wow! I sure am glad these NCIS investigators don’t work for the FBI. Nothing to see here move along people, we have an election to win!
This seems like one of those situations where all members are guilty but he is being singled out. Why do I bet every one of the members had ideas about or contributed products they deemed helpful during their missions.
This is all about making an example of him for taking a photo during a mission, the most important mission of his generation, and releasing it. He broke free from the leash. Makes total sense. But until all members are looked at for working with product development I can’t imagine that he should be condemned for working on products that could help him do his job better, and save his life.
So he profited from his position. How s he different than Hillary Rodham-Clinton?
Welcome to Stalinist Amerika.
Yes, because when we kill people in our fake war on fake terrorism with our fake heroes, it is our God-damned right as fake Americans to profit off those murders. It’s the fake American way.
You have nailed the Military Industrial Complex to the wall and slapped it. Well said.
He appears to be brilliant and enterprising. It’s too bad we couldn’t utilize his full capabilities on the job. If anything they should try to get him back with a promotion, then keep him very busy and away from procurement.
The suppression of post-mortem photos of bin Laden is stupid. Publication of a grisly image of his vacant-eyed corpse would not have galvanized Islamist recruitment. To the contrary, it would have served to de-glamorize jihadist martyrdom. I have long believed that the publication of the post-mortem photos of Mussolini and his mistress hanging upside down dispelled any lingering Fascist mystique more effectively than rational argument could have.
So to be clear. An expert in warfare products was designing warfare products that would protect and enhance warriors to conduct warfare.
If Biss was in the process of choosing, that’s a conflict he shouldn’t be. However, if he was involved in creating and warriors receiving the best equipment? Good. You want them alive with a few dollars or dead and poor?
Just like Petraeus, this administration’s punishment is never ending for those who buck the administration or put it in a bad light.
If his name were “Clinton”, they wouldn’t even be looking at him.
Would have been a better article if it included the alleged photo of a tits up bin Laden. If you don’t have the photos then it didn’t happen.
The colleague who was quoted at the end of the article, “he brought a lot of trouble to people who trusted him”, makes me wonder how naïve individual SEAL commandos really are.
If this is true and not just spin of some sort from an untrustworthy administration, this guy sounds like he doesn’t appreciate the depth of honor that seems to be part of the Seal experience. My general inclination is to trust and respect what Seals express. That being said, the opposite applies to the administration so being out of favor with our President and his administrators does make me wonder about spin.
Guess he didn’t get the message that the Pentagon sent to the SEAL 6 members who were killed in that Afghan helicopter crash.
Investigations into mishandling of classified government information gets everyone except the Hildabeast.
No body no pictures. Burial at Sea! Yea sure! Biden telling everyone it was SEAL Team 6. Why the specific mention of this special warfare group and not a generic term which is usually used. Why not a drone? Would’ve given Pakistani’s cover instead of having to admit their airspace was compromised. It’s not like we hadn’t been droning the piss out of them anyway. I smell a rat!
If he broke the law, he should not get away with it. But it is disturbing how willing the authorities are to harass him over what is really little more than souvenir-taking during a historic occasion, while Hillary flouts the laws, sending Top Secret emails through a bathroom server — open to the prying eyes of every two-bit hacker out there — and Obama discloses secrets of the mission so he can do an election year victory lap, and only one of them is anywhere near paying a price for their stupidity.
The only reason they are going after this guy is because he told the actual story that happened versus the story Odumbo and Killery tried to sell which was nothing more than lies.
Every POS politician does exactly that – uses their office for profit So sick of the government’s BS and total lack of accountability while making the rest of us follow rules they exempt themselves from. It is time for this to stop!
Just another attack on one of the Bamster’s “enemies”. The president has accumulated millions of dollars for books and speaking engagements, while President: (net worth before president 1.5M, current net worth 36M). And this military guy gets “investigated”?
Oh, and some of you butt nuggets are moaning and whining citing occasions where OTHER people released Classified information .. STOW IT. Whether or not they did, whether or not they were punished. If you release classified information you should face the consequences. I sure as hell faced them If I had done it irrespective if a shipmate did or didn’t do the same thing. Apples to Oranges.
Bissonnette was 100% wrong and needs to face the music. OH, I left out the part that he is a PARIAH with A LOT of Team Guys. Most wont give him the time of day.. ONeil the same.
You, of course, are referring to the president releasing derogatory information on his “enemies”. He he he
I would agree with you, but there’s this concept called “Equal protection under the law.”
Weren’t we the people permitted to see our tax money at work? As I recall, the whole story about the killing of Osama was a mystery in that the body was dumped at sea so that the muslims wouldn’t get all jihai over the visuals of the dead body. So, can we the people have the truth for once? Let’s get the shadow gubmint and all of it’s insanity out of our lives. That would be an excellent choice concerning the way our extorted dollars are spent.
I can’t believe we are still going with the bullshit story that we killed Bin Laden hahahahahahah this is a fucking joke. I still find it funny how the government works for the people yet you classified things so the people can’t know the truth.
Only Killary and Shill are allowed to make millions off classified deals.
Mark is a shipmate, I respect him greatly for that. However, having had a TS/SCI myself I know the stringent and often draconian threats that were made on a debrief of various types of Intel. Idon’t have a problem with Marcus Luttrell’s book because it was cleared by the US Navy.. nor do I have a problem with Chris Kyle’s either.
“No Easy Day” is a dog of a different color. Mark stepped over the line in the hopes of PROFIT for the story of the take down of Bin Laden. I think it was a race between him and ONeil over who would publish one first? Bissonette published his first.
The BIGGEST thing I cannot get past is the fact that he revealed TTP’s and other things that should not have been revealed. The fact that he had personal photo’s of the biggest rectum in the world is beside the point.
A SEAL Master Chief posted this before the release of ONeil’s book – “a critical tenant [sic] of our ethos is “I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions.””
Your’s is the best comment I’ve read and I agree with it. Personally, I think Seal’s should be paid a lot more money than the average enlisted person. Hell, anyone who is involved in direct combat should get more. Obama should personally write a check to every member of the teams since killing Osama helped Obama get re-elected and he friggin brags about it all the time!
Lets compare that to what Hillary and Bill Clinton have done and to what Obama has done.
This pales in comparison
How many books have been written by high brass talking about what they’ve done, and made profit from it? The fact it suddenly and exclusively matters is suspicious.
What about michael chertoff, head of homeland security making mega millions off the sale of airport body scanners, that of course, his agency ordered.
As somebody else posted its only the low on totem pole that get busted. Mistake, Didnt partner with the people that could bust him
Obama revealed the name of the squad that nailed bin Laden as SEAL Team 6, which was supposed to be classified. Obama revealed the name of the doctor that specified the exact location of bin Laden. The doctor now rots in prison and Obama is free as the proverbial bird.
He doesn’t just reveal OUR secrets in order to self-aggrandize…
According to: Britain’s Guardian,: CIA professionals are furious at Obama administration officials for leaking the information for obvious political gain.
The newspaper reported: “Mike Scheur, the former head of the CIA’s Bin Laden unit, said the leaking about the nuts and bolts of British involvement was despicable and would make a repeat of the operation difficult. ‘MI6 should be as angry as hell. This is something that the prime minister should raise with the president.’”
Shashank Joshi,: a British researcher,: wrote in the Telegraph: “These unthinking leaks are reckless and irresponsible acts of posturing that could have far-reaching implications for counterterrorism operations in the future.”
Let’s not leave out Hillary’s emailed info that could have served as useful intel – for the other side that is.
keep f? the wrong people and see were it gets you
Yet Hillary had top secret and classified information on a server in someone’s bathroom closet and we all know she will face no consequences.
Always peasant men get investigated, WHY ISN’T HITLARY IN PRISON ?!!!!
If he had been a Commissioned Officerscum he could have not only received FREE Legal Help from the Military but been allowed to keep all the money PLUS get a Job as a commentator on Several News Networks. And he could have just sat back in the rear with the gear during the operation and bragged about how it was all BECAUSE OF HIM and wright himself up for several commendationa and Medals forarmchair Valor. But unfortunately this guy was Enlisted so he has to be made an example of.
Armchair valor….
You’re right, of course.
He’s guilty of stealing Obama’s colostomy-bag valor.
If they applied the same criteria to Hillary she would be charged and jailed by now.
Everyone knows it was Obama that got OBL. This guy was going to get heat from the government sooner or later.
I wonder if Hilary is being prosecuted so zealously for her illegal handling of above-top-secret intelligence and “moonlighting”.
Shut up and leave your stupid politics and you’re horrible understanding of politics at the door. Stay on task if you can.
How much does kankles pay you to cover her water retaining a55?
Double standards are ALWAYS “on task”, except for the sycophants of the parasite political class. Get back on your knees, toady.
I’ve ready his book and there is nothing I would consider as classified in it. Osama’s compound doesn’t exist so any mission details there are irrelevant. The techniques the SEALS use for their aerial insertions are pretty much common knowledge and their tactics are no different than any elite force might use. A lot of this information can be found on line.
What is the big deal? It’s a picture. Is the media gonna come up with another scandal off a picture when Hillary Cliterus blamed Benghazi on a YouTube video? If anything, the picture should be motivation towards the fight against terrorism.
They’re pissed cause the picture is from 2003 XD
Just like they did to Marcinko. Phoque Six
If this guys gets in trouble, then Hillary should be toast. A photo of Osama dead is not a big deal.
So he can’t release a photo of a bum but hillary can send thousands of classified emails and still be the Democrats favorite.
Another testament to luberals
You bet. And Clinton still walks without leg chains. Curse this president, and curse his rogue Demo-Marxist party.
If they can’t shut him up, the next best thing is to destroy him. Gotta love this administration. Not!
This is a great case study of the potentially unhealthy relationships that can develop between those defining requirements (the SEAL in this case) and those fulfilling them (the contractors). The real crimes are occurring at the 4-star level in the Pentagon (JROC, etc.), whereby flag officers, approaching retirement, are promised six and seven figure jobs upon their retirement. Matt Bissonnette’s potential crimes pale in comparison with that villainy!
Yet Killary Clinton still walks free.
And this would be different than virtually every politition, how?
Just too many ignorant people to reply to. He puts everyone on that raid in jeopardy. There’s a reason special operations don’t stand and thump their chest after a mission. I can ignore the ignorant comments of most of these people but the ones that have serve in the armed forces should know better
Team Obama got in front of the media with his narrative, including Hollywood producers, within minutes after the raid. Where is the FBI investigation in leaking Intel of an ongoing operation? Nobody in Intel had a chance to follow all the leads into bin Laden organization and dismantle it completely. No. Obama had to expose special forces.
Agree
Investigate the government investigators…
Let’s see the photo, we paid for it. More dead Moo deathcultists are a GOOD thing.
Mrs. Bhutto said OBL died in a cave due to kidney failure about 12 years ago.
What a joke, every signal politician in office has profit from their position in office. This Navy seal in my eye, is a hero. If this administration is going after him. The first one on the list sure be Hillary, for her email server scandal. General Petraueus has done less harm, than Hillary has done. But yet they are trying to strip in of his rank. If Hillary is not charged for what she has done. Let the rest go also.
When Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama own up to their lawlessness, maybe THEN I will be concerned with Mr. Bissonnett answering these allegations. Until then, the DOJ has no support or credibility in my eyes.
Did the Clintons ever use their government positions for personal profit?
If the Government would be honest and transparent then the American people wouldn’t be so hungry for the truth and there would be no profit in disclosure of the truth.
The Clintons have both done it, especially Hillary as Secretary of State with foreign governments she dealt with giving large donations to Bill Clinton’s foundation. And now she’s running for president with those relationships still going on.
You mean how did Hillary come to have a net worth of over 13 million when she and Bill declared they only had a net worth of about half a million combined before his first term in office? I suppose she was so poor when they left the White House those four mansions she has purchased are difficult to maintain and pay for. America has been screwed by the Clinton’s and it wasn’t Bill’s dalliances as a womanizer that I am talking about.
Screw the government. Thank God for individuals like this Seal. God bless the USA.
Does anyone believe anything the government says anymore? We are no longer a country ruled by law for everyone. The elites have set aside the law with the blessing of the First Amendment darlings – the mainstream press – at the expense of the rest of us.
Wow. Someone used their “position for personal profit”. I’m shocked. But now that we know that is something worthy of penalty and prosecution; how many prisons will it take to hold the politicians in the United States who have done even worse?
So…….how much is going to be returned to the public of the hundreds of millions Hillary has “profited” using her position? Asking for a friend.
Sounds like a patriotic American and successful capitalist. Arrest him.
If I was the seal who killed Osama, I would keep my mouth shut to protect my friends and family. AL Qedia, and the arab world will make this young man a target now because he took a stand and defended his nation from itself. We created AL Qedia to fight the Russian bear, and it backfired.
Do the pictures of the body show any signs of freezer-burn?
So he does what nearly every elected official in Washington D.C. does and he’s in trouble legally. Hmm…interesting.
The politicians don’t like the competition.
Why that is absolutely horrible, profiting off of your position…..oh wait…everyone in the current regime from Emperor Puppethead down to your lowly union thug is making a dime off the taxpayers.
Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, billing $1000 hr, IRS deletes drive after being told not to…..and you’re going after a guy who risks his life? Kill yourself
http://www.atr.org/irs-erases-hard-drive-despite-court-order
I wonder how many people know that OBL died in 2001 or 200 from kidney failure. GWB started the “Weekend at Bernie’s” charade to help justify overseas invasions and BHO capitalized on it by shooting some old raghead with a beard (they all look alike) to make himself look Presidential 2 days after he posted a phony birth certificate on the internet.
thank you
There are 3 people who need to be hung:Obola,Shillery,and HorseFace.
The three war criminals are GW Bush, VP Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. See, I don’t need to use moronic names in an effort to look clever.
I suppose if redirecting the current, incompetent administration who has been sucking on the blame game teet for so long they think they are untouchable in every bit of lawlessness they partake in is what you call clever, then um….ok?
Hard to go after this guy if Hillary skates.
Bill always chose someone other than Hillary.
Shouldn’t you?
Dude…Make that a bumper sticker…
I wanna see it! Give the guy a beer! Wonder if it’s Osama’s surprised “Oh Shit, who are you?” before getting shot expression, or the laying on the ground “Oh Shit, I’ve just been killed!” expression.
I wonder if they buried Bin Laden with a pig?
No, she is still running for president.
If just having a linkage or contact with a company is enough reason to indict this guy then how the heck can Clinton continue to walk around free with all of her “linkages” to foreign countries, businesses, as well as wall street? Justice does not apply to the 1% I guess.
Yes, let’s nail this guy to a cross…and let Hillary walk
2008, Dianne Feinstein told the world (CNN) the Predator Drone missions were being flown form Pakistan. She endangered the lives of hundreds of Americans working there as visas became harder to acquire, the threat level was raised, and ground defenses were ‘adjusted’. No Republican said $hit against her self serving treachery. America has been sold out by people we elected to serve….not rule!
It’s all a big LIE.
Starting with the ‘terrorist’ attacks on 9/11. But so many enjoy the patriotic lies, and actually pondering and accepting the real truth of recent history and what their dear country is really about is just too painful to acknowledge…
So the guy that put his life on the line to kill terrorist is being tormented by the government yet Hilary’s incompetence which led to the death of a US Ambassador and the associated cover-up is being rewarded with a presidential bid. Yep, that sounds fair
It is about time. Shooting a defenseless old man, regardless of who he is, has always been a no no in the military. To brag about it is sickening. This same scrutiny should be applied to Chris Kyle and any other Seal that thinks that it is O K to profit from their exploits.
Are you kidding me? A defenseless old man? You liberals prove every day that you’re completely insane!
This old man would cut your f’in haid off in a second and use it for a spitoon since it’s hollow and empty.
The urge to kick you in the nuts till they bounce off your upper palate is overwhelming. GTF back to your Obot cave.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Who cares .. It’s not like Service members are barred from making money outside the Military, and the Military is famous for making deals with one supplier over another, like SOG, which sells blades and multi tools at bases all over the US and overseas .. The Government is just pissy they wheren’t cut in on the deal …
“The government has fought to keep pictures of bin Laden’s body from being made public for what it claims are national security reasons.”
What National security risks are involved in showing proof that he was actually killed in that raid? Taliban fighters faces have been shown, dead, many many times in the media, not like Osama is any different …
how can they prosecute him and not Hillary who had higher than top secret classified info on her server? He should be yelling that from the mountain tops
Hmm! Sounds like he would make a good politician!! Isn’t conducting business any different than the good ole boys in Washington!!
The man who shot Osama told the story, made millions, and the government wanted it. In 2014, they got a settlement for his disclosures. They also got a “copy” of his hard drive which contained a picture of the dead terrorist. The real story is that the government wanted to profit from the man’s career, put pressure on him, and got millions. End of story.
this sing fool DID NOT shoot u b l
U.S. troops would enforce peace under Army study
The Washington Times
SEPTEMBER 10, 2001
Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS [US ARMY School of Advanced Military Studies] officers say: “Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.”
“Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.”
— US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
“There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear weapons — no question whatsoever. And there is no question that once he acquires it, history shifts immediately.
…If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have
enormous positive reverberations on the region.”
-Benjamin Netanyahu testifying before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on September 12, 2002 as broadcast on CSPAN.
“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,” Ma’ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”
– Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ha’aretz, “Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel”, April 16, 2008
The government showed you pictures of Saddam dead. The government showed you pictures of Saddam’s sons dead. The government showed you pictures of Ghaddafi dead. The government showed you pictures of Iraqi soldiers burned alive from the First Gulf War. They showed you pictures virtually nonstop for months of AMERICAN CITIZENS JUMPING TO THEIR DEATHS IN THE HUNDREDS ON 9/11! Why won’t they show you a death picture of Osama bin Laden? Might the American public and world finally figure out that 9/11 was a false flag attack once they realize Osama wasn’t at that compound and was already dead nearly a decade earlier? Why does Osama seem to get younger and his hair turn from gray to black as alleged Osama propaganda videos were released over the years? Do you all remember on the day of 9/11 that Osama denied being responsible for 9/11, said elements within our government were responsible and media outlets such as CNN even broadcast these statements? Why would he not claim responsible for such an attack on his alleged mortal enemy? Think people, think. 22 Seal Team 6 Navy Seals shot down on the same chinook in Afghanistan a few months after the Osama was allegedly killed in Abbottabod……some of the family members claim the government is lying to them about how they died. Were these Seal Team 6 members asking eachother who was on the Osama raid and realizing none of them were? Hmmmmm…..2+2=?
Those were not all SEALS on that Chinook. You may still have a point though. I thought the same thing.
This “former SEAL team 6 operator” sure seems eager to share every detail for this story. Reminds me of a headline I once saw… “They don’t call them SEAL team 6-year olds for nothing.”
I just love the last sentence in the article: “He’s brought a lot of trouble to people who trusted him,” the colleague said.”
Can’t hep but chuckle. I teach my children that they’re responsible for their own actions and choices in life. Apparently these gentlemen don’t adhere to that belief… THAT, or the colleague that is “sharing” these details with the reporter is adding a little dramatic embellishment of his own. ;-)
Last I checked, being “investigated” doesn’t automatically make one guilty. In fact, hasn’t the government been “investigating” this soldier for over 3 years now? And they still can’t find anything to charge the guy with! So instead, they’ll just leak possible infractions that won’t pan out into anything legit. Reread the article. There are no facts here about what Mark/Matt has done. Obvious smear campaign. This guy beat the government to the punch in telling the OBL story and they’re pissed.
There is NO story here…. only Matthew Cole sensationalizing to get his name in bright lights and some stupid government official with a vendetta who can’t find any other way to “get” this guy than to leak non-facts to the media.
A story about a
picture, with NO
picture, is NO story!
Where’s the pictures?
So why is it not also a prosecutable offense for Obama and members of his staff to have broken the same law for having ‘used his position … for personal profit while on active duty’ when Obama and his staff (1) disclosed that SEAL Team Six was the group that attacked the bin Laden compound, and (2) provided numerous operational details of that attack for “Zero Dark Thirty” production – all disclosing sensitive secret information for the purpose of personal profit – in that case for propaganda used to re-elect the President to a PAID position (and in which those staffers would continue salary and benefits of it suceeded – which it did)???
If Bisonette can be prosecuted for writing his book, then Obama and several of his staffers should be equally prosecuted for the leaks that ultimately led to those same SEAL Team Six members being targeted (and killed) by the Taliban and Al Qaeda in a pre-planned ambush in an attack on their Chinook helicopter? Seems that there is much more basis to prosecute Obama than Bisonette.
Just another Obama-hater, using the flimsiest of logic to try & link Bissonette’s activities with what Obama may or may not have done; for one thing, Obama’s the president and is commander-in-chief; what are they gonna do, court martial him? Don’t think so. Plus, he didn’t violate any part of the UCMJ anyway, which would get a militaryman a court martial. Obama also did not leak classified material -or, rather, whomever it was in the Obama admin. that consulted on Zero Dark Thirty, did not reveal classified information. Anyone who’s seen the movie knows nothing more than anyone else who could have found the same information in newspapers, magazines, etc. and the odd interviews, here & there, w/SEAL team 6 members, etc.- but those who did talk didn’t leak classified information; at least not any that was printed in any publication and if anyone did, it was on strict deep background & any existence that is in the public now, of then-classified info (it ain’t classified anymore, once it’s leaked, obviously) and could never be proven to any court beyond a reasonable doubt, anyway, so that’s a dead end. But, as I said, the commenter, “DaFoley” is nothing but a rabid Obama-hater and has used his imagination to use this story to wrongly liken it to any action Obama’s administration, hence Obama, did in regard to the assistance in consulting for Zero Dark Thirty. Also -Obama never made any extra money by sidelining as a paid consultant via secret companies he started up with the intention of making a business out of lessons/details learned from the situation. So, in the end, “DaFoley”, you lose! ZERO CREDIBILITY and obvious right-wing Obama-hater, that’s all that is there. Nice try, maybe you should’ve thought of such things when real criminals, such as Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Scooter Libby and other liars, killers and war criminals.
Haters don’t understand logic like that. They’d just rather stew in their misguided hate and support someone who disobeyed orders.
Arthur, nasty old commies like you, with your reflexive hatred of the dominant Anglo-Saxon Protestant culture and ethos, are why it is impossible to make common cause. Millions of us share your leftist disgust with government abuse, the emergent police state, the evil perpetrated in the name of our ancestors i.e., America and more.
Yet you simply cannot help but revert, atavistically, to the peasant-like bigotry stemming from your Ellis Island grandparents. They were the lowest of the low and it galls you! They were grateful to the Americans that succored them whereas you only feel the sting of undeserved “privilege”, acquired for the cost of two tickets in steerage.
Sad, really, the seething hatred and inferiority you and your kind indulge is all that keeps you alive. It didn’t need to be that way, but frankly the fault is ours: we never should have allowed your kind here in the first place. It was predictable and inevitable that you would destroy everything in your oafish pretense.
Pity.
That ‘greed’ is a powerful thing.
Back in the day.. going out on a limb was just part of the job. We all new what it was that made us sign on the dotted line and raise our right hand to swear the oath.
As long as nobody said anything to you.. and you went pretty much ignored.. THAT could be taken as a the highest compliment. One could be internally proud of a job well done; and, it need never be mentioned again. Keeping quiet earned the highest admiration of ones peers.
I’m certain that there are still men of this type out there. Men with ‘knightly’ attitudes. Honorable men. Loyal.
Pics of Bin Laden’s rotting corpse that had been buried in the garden of that compound for years? Those Seals were on a mission to retrieve the boogeyman’s body and make up a tale of heroics.
The goal [of Element Group] was to work with the sporting industry in developing fragmentation devices, battlefield nukes, and nerve gas delivery systems in great demand by avid sportsmen the world over…
It so disheartening that the Intercept is peddling this Bin Laden fantasy. It’s beyond belief that any real journalist could take the government account of this “assassination” fairy tale seriously. The story is so full of holes that it should be a Michael Bay movie.
I guess 9/11 and this are the new third rail for “respectable” journalist. No wonder the profession is dying; it’s practitioners killed it.
I’m so disappointed. I had high hopes for the Intercept. Alas, it has proven to be another supine corporate venture. I should have known better than to hope for more.
Amen.
Most are find inspiration from the images of dead men.
Many admire Reagan, Gandhi, Mandela, Mossadegh, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, Morales, JFK etc, etc…yet none of them hang pictures of these dead men on their office walls.
What is the REAL reason for suppressing images of dead OBL?
two words, Che Guevara.
Because they do not exist.
he’s only in trouble because binladen is not dead . send their resources investigateing hillary and Bill ,and obama and then Ill read the story
LolaS:
I hope you are a different person and not the demented ‘ Lola’ that shows up here on occasion, gets smoked bad by just about everyone, then flees like a bandito.
In case you have any illusions:
Clinton or Trump is going to be the next Prez, Benghazi or not; Iraqi oil fields on fire and border wall paid for by Mexico or not, respectively.
Matthew, this is quite the article and provides a wealth of, I believe, valuable new information. As it happens, I have excellent insider SPEC OPS contacts myself and wrote a series of exclusive posts on what really happened in the Bin Laden Raid. Per my sources, they were very well received by the direct participants!
http://www.johnkettler.com/bin-laden-vs-seal-team-six/
http://www.johnkettler.com/seal-team-six-bin-laden-movie-censorship-1/
http://www.johnkettler.com/seal-team-six-movie-censorship-part-2/
After I reported the above, a whole new plot twist and angle came my way in a truly remarkable set of accounts which stand the Standard Model of the Hunt for bin Laden on its head.
http://www.johnkettler.com/bin-laden-man-with-two-deaths/
Jamie Gorelick, Clinton and GW Bush executive appointee as Schlumberger cut side deals with Iran while Iran waged war against American troops (treason)
DO fined Schlumberger, no criminal prosecutions and Jamie hired the US Attorney that crafted the deal to her lawfirm WilmerHale.
Proof from the US DOJ http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/schlumberger-oilfield-holdings-ltd-agrees-plead-guilty-and-pay-over-2327-million-violating-us
Those are the scum that run America.
You mean THIS Jamie Gorelick?:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/about/bio_gorelick.htm
Cashing in is one our great American traditions.
So let me get this straight, we’re going to punish the person who killed the most wanted man in the world, who by his own admission was involved with the attacks on 911. Now we have a woman who let our people get killed in Bengazi, who lied about using personal computer for top secret e-mails and is allowing her to run for President of our country, WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
Considering that you cannot understand the concept that a US Marine disobeyed an order, I’m not surprised you have such a distorted view of the world. It doesn’t matter if he killed Bin Laden – he was ordered to keep his mouth shut. There was a time when our soldiers did their job and did not leak classified information.
When we first learned that pictures of Bin Laden’s body would not be released to the public, I commented that one of those soldiers involved would find a way to release the pictures. But, that was met with insults and replies that SEALS observed the highest level code of conduct and would never break that code. HA. I was right. There’s always one in the pack that craves being publicly lauded a hero. Yes, we all have the highest respect for the risk these men take and the job they do. They deserve to have the highest honors bestowed on them without singling themselves out as being THE hero.
Stop with the “Hilary and her emails” bs. It’s not relevent and she is not going to be voted in as president so you can all quit pointing fingers at her to deflect the fact that Bissonnette broke the code of conduct he swore to, plain and simple. He was looking for his moment in the spotlight just like Marcus Luttrell and Chris Kyle.
LolaS, I’m confused. Where in the very short article above does it say that this soldier “found a way to release the pictures for his personal gain?” Your argument is not an argument at all. It’s filled with emotional judgement and projection. Find a different place to defend Hillary.
The official story of the Osama bin Laden raid is almost certainly a fabrication.
How can people be so trusting of the US government? US officials are proven liars with a well known history of using deceptive propaganda, media manipulation, and outright lies. Anything they say should be doubted unless proof is provided.
I never read so much BULL CRAP iny life Bin Laden body my yeah right.Didn’t the lying Rambo say they dropped him in the ocean.So how can they still have his body.Ole lying sack of American rambos.
No one is saying his body is still around. It said he had taken a photo of the body after he was killed.
There is evidence that bin Laden died in 2006, yet no one investigates such. The evidence of this Seal having killed bin Laden would never stand up in court. For those who think it would, lay out your proof, habeas corpus-wise.
This man is a hero and risked his life to kill the most hated and dangerous man alive. He deserves to reap some prosperity despite some asinine military rules.
That’s BS. He was a soldier with a job to do and orders to follow. He deserves everything that’s coming to him for going against his orders to maintain a level of secrecy surrounding his mission. He’s a disgrace to the uniform.
I agree 100 % , though it is true military pay sucks as well as hours and deployment – we do this because we chose to defend our country and what we believe . you don’t join the military to get rich. ha ha – I started at $288.00 a month , I fought because i believe. had this guy had a pic – that’s different , obviously he was setting his way up well before. by the way every soldier out there is risking their lives – a bullet don’t play favorites.
“Luskin said that he had negotiated a deal in 2014 with the Pentagon and the Justice Department to hand over to the government some of the millions of dollars in book profits Bissonnette had received.”
I’m certainly not defending this guy’s actions, but if a citizen were to demand money from a possible defendant to drop a potential criminal complaint they would themselves be prosecuted for extortion, yet the US government drops a case after negotiating a deal for receiving millions of dollars.
Thomas Jefferson — ‘Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.’
Extortion involves the verbal or written instillation of fear that something will happen to the victim if they do not comply with the extortionist’s will.
– Give us a million dollars or we’ll prosecute you. –
The US government and it’s military and intelligence agencies are so damn corrupt.
They will investigate and likely prosecute this hero as Hillary runs for office and faces far more serious allegations for mishandling hundreds of emails, disregarding requests for her emails, destroying her server after a Dept. of State request for her emails and server, and now campaign allegations of pay-for-play? Despite my conservative views, the differential treatment in our country should concern all of us. Obamacare seems to try and offer similar health coverage for all Americans and borders on socialism while the elite and government generally do not participate in the program and opt for better coverage, OJ and the affluenza teen faired better than most any other American facing similar charges in criminal court. As America claims to be revel in the idea of equality for, especially the day after MLK Day, how about handling justice and equality for all, regardless of position, color, religion, sex, race, sexual orientation, or any other group? The judicial system is creating rifts in America across all boundaries. As the black lives matter movement stops cities with their agenda, the rest of America should consider how the elite are treated differently as well.
Who is/was Osama bin Laden really? If he ever lived, did he ever really die?
He was the bearded guy in all those videos…dead now…
He was the scion of one of the American power elite’s best-loved Saudi families, the same families who’s members were secretly and graciously ushered out of the US after the US-created, Saudi-supported al Qaeda obliterated the WTC, graciously flown out in secret, to prevent an explosive American backlash against the vicious Saudi government and its lackeys, with whom the regime was so in love, and remains so, today. The Clintons, Obamas, Bushes and Cheneys virtually pledge allegiance to the Saudi dictators so ably represented by the Bin Ladin family and its coeval colluders (perhaps coevil is more accurate) in the dictatorship. He was a maximal beneficiary of US regime weaponry and financial largesse, whose operations would never have gotten off the ground without the support of US/Saudi regimes throughout the years.
So Obama can use it to win a 2nd term, but a soldier who risked his life doing the job can’t profit from it. Seems legit.
He took an oath not to reveal anything that he did as part of the Seal team. He turned his back on his fellow seals. He should be in jail.
who cares if classified information was revealed nothing has been done to Hillary Clinton. She had thousands of classified emails and Obama has\n’t done anything
Col. Ted Westhusing wrote his doctoral dissertation at Emory University on the Code of Honor in the profession of arms, and the American tradition of honoring that Code. He went on to teach at West Point. And later volunteered for service in Iraq, in order to be part of that tradition, that Code. He died there, but not before discovering how little of that Code remained. How little honor.
Bissonette would have sickened him, but would not have surprised him. He had seen much similar self-aggrandizement and profiteering. That so many commenters here find nothing wrong with this man demonstrates with singular clarity that we don’t even expect honor any more.
There is nothing inherently honorable about blindly following orders, whether as a mafia enforcer or a soldier in the military. Serving in a military is only honorable when such service entails defense of one’s country and people against an assault.
The Iraq invasion was based on obvious Zionist lies that many of us pointed out in advance, only to be ignored or shouted down. Anyone who thought the US had any business attacking Iraq was either (a) deceived by the lies, and therefore stupid or naive, or (b) aware of the lies but unconcerned about them, therefore revealing a lack of honor.
That you take for face value what a media article tells you demonstrates with singular clarity how ignorant you are.
Ha ha, just another lie to embellish the fairy tale of the Abbottabad raid.
Thank you Matt for pulling the trigger and sending Osama to the blackness and nothingness of death. I hope you blew his head into pieces. There will be no welcoming after death for anyone.
No hell.
No God.
Just death.
The truth.
Religion is for the weak, and is completely fabricated by humans. Prove God exists and I’ll change my story.
Fear is for the stupid, and sold to you by your government, religion, parents and friends.
Matt was OBL’s God. Thanks for being such a bad ass and finishing that punk off.
Funny Darryl, you don’t bellieve in God but you sure do have a childlike faith in the BS your government feeds you. If it really happened like they said it did, if OBL was killed by Navy Seals, then you’d have heard about it from Santa Claus before you heard about it from the man who pulled the trigger. Books, movies, I mean come on, are you for real?
Who cares? The terrorist leader is dead. That’s all that matters. He made billions doing this, so what? At least he’s not terrorizing people.
Osama bin Laden may have had blood on his hands, but he never could have dreamed of killing and terrorizing as many innocent people as the US government has killed and terrorized over the past couple of decades.
2 words: Insider Trading.
What a POS. His actions are a slap in the face to the REAL heroes that silently serve their country and blend in when that service is done. I have nothing but the greatest respect for all people in the Armed Services, but egomaniacs like this yahoo that jump up and down and yell “look at me” are just little men that had the opportunity to serve and thought it was all about them and not about those whom they were serving. Rot in jail tough guy.
With the exception of those who are on charge of our nuclear deterrent, people in the US armed forces are NOT “serving their country.” They’re serving the corrupt politicians and the special interests who have bought those politicians (“defense” manufacturers, Zionists, etc.). They serve them by participating in perpetual wars of choice overseas. Ordinary Americans foot the bill but get nothing in return other than an increased risk of terrorist attack and a stain on our national conscience.
The “War on Terror” does NOTHING to improve US national security. Quite the contrary. America’s repeated interventions and invasions only enrage foreigners at the injustice and senseless killings, thereby multiplying the number of people who want revenge on the US.
Bissonnette is a greedy jacka$$. He wont get a 20 year Navy pension…he broke SEAL culture rules and military rules and left the Navy early hoping to cash in. Hes a businessman who would be comfortable running Ponzi schemes on Wall Street. He deserves a life of ridicule, poverty etc. He will end up hawking gold on right wing radio or vacuum cleaners on midnight infomercials. Loser with a gun.
I was the most impressed with the Belgian Malinois on the mission
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I find the whole thing delightfully entertaining because Osama Bin Ladin died several years ago.
But then again you have insider informants and sources in which you reply with the empty tinfoil hat black helicopter jokes-right?
Thanks somebody speaking some sense
Honestly who gives a flying shit if this guy is profiting from the actions of his and his commandos actions that day. IMO these men should have reaped the reward ($25 million) for killing that goat fucking murderer. His body should have been brought back to the US and put on display and made example of, but you have Obama, the radical muslim he is, the biggest ball-less fuck who has ever run this country.
Obama did what Bush couldn’t (or wouldn’t) do; killed OBL. It must suck having hatred for a man who has done so much to fix failed Republican terms that he inherited in the first place. Democrats are the only ones who get the job done no matter what it is while Republicans stand around giving their rich friends tax breaks and bonuses. Bush and Cheney and their whole administration are war criminals and you’re upset with Obama for being ball-less? Grow up and smell what you’re shoveling.
Presidents, Congress personnel, and high ranking generals do this all the time, and just get a scolding and it’s forgiven. The nature of the beast is to always butcher the lowest ranks, and disown them to set an example. What a joke!
Did General P., Hillary, Bill, and many others have to turn over their profits? Do they no longer welcome them and talk to them? Just saying. What fine examples we have from the highest in command and their lack of punishments. I’ll say it again, “What a joke they and our system are”.
It’s funny how Hillary had information about special access programs on her Gmail and the government is doing exactly squat. Yet a member of the military who killed Obamas idol is being absolutely persecuted for such bs. This country is a joke
The dude should get whatever he wants for taking out that SCUMBAG! And if the government wants to investigate someone, start with POTUS, for TREASON!
So it’s OK for someone like Dick Chaney and many many many other politicians (Black Water ring a bell?) to have a “conflict of interest business” that profited in the millions if not billions from his position in the WH but when the little guy who is really laying his life on the line for penny’s on the dollar I might add does it…. oh boy it’s a national security issue?!?!?! Such double standards in our country….
I’m so disgusted in our country these days…. God help our children and our grandchildren.
spot on!
What about Obama using OBL’s death as a political tool to further his reelection. He placed the entire Seal Team Six in great danger by naming them on national TV as the ones that killed OBL. He should be put in prison. Leave the Navy Seals alone.
I’m still not convinced bin Laden was killed.. 1) no body or pics… 2) Obama said h was killed and we know what liars the Democrats are…. 3) the Seal member who claims to have shot bin Laden has been in the public eye since the “shooting” – he and his family are still alive… you know the retaliation against him would have already happened numerous times over, until he was killed…
Someone should investigate the President this to this extent –just saying.
Make sure to wipe your e-mail and hard drive from time to time: Gov’t doesn’t want you to have any secret files or private correspondence. Just ask Hillary! What’s safe and private data storage nowadays? Maybe a flash drive buried under a rock somewhere.
well if a criminal can have a Book written or movie made about him why not him—he did his job and now wants to make some money—-politicians do it all the time — it is the USA and money is #1 its sad but true
It is illegal for criminals to profit from books or movies about their crimes or lives.
What a BS cover-up story. Laden died years ago. 17 Seals who were part of this raid were killed in a helicopter crash to keep them quiet. Who this guy is is anyone’s guess. Probably some CIA Op.
For the conspiracy minded: Some doubt our raid killed Bin Laden. After all, no picture, no body. But here, suddenly, we’ve got a picture, plus details “top secret” enough to get investigated over. So there IS a picture… we just don’t get to see it.
Many years ago the U. S. Army asked a group of the Apache Scouts to help them capture Geronimo, the Apache Medicine Man, which they did. The U. S. put all the Apache Scouts in Prison for their actions.
The U. S Government asked the S.E.A.L.S. to capture or kill bin Laden (Code named ‘Geronimo’), which they did, to the world’s betterment. NOW, that same U.S. Government wants to put this HERO in prison for killing bin Laden (‘Geronimo’). Hasn’t the Government learned anything in all this time??? Then U S voters MUST Not let this happen!!
BIN LADEN DIED IN DECEMBER OF 2001 OF COMPLICATIONS OF FAILING KIDNEYS AND MARFAN DISEASE.
JUST CHECK OUT THE EUROPEAN SUPPLY COMPANY WHICH FURNISHED THE FILTERS AND OTHER ITEMS FOR HIS PORTABLE DIALYSIS MACHINES. DELIVERY SUDDENLY STOPPED SHORTLY AFTER HIS DEATH.
HIS DNA WAS IN THE POSSESSION OF THE CIA FOR A LONG TIME ALREADY ALONG WITH SAMPLES OF MANY OTHER HIGH RANKING INDIVIDUALS.
HIS COMPOUND IN WHICH HE NEVER LIVED IN ABBOTTABAD WAS DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF EUROPEAN PRESSURE TO SEARCH FOR HIS DNA IN IT UNDER STRICT SUPERVISION. OBVIOUSLY NONE COULD HAVE BEEN FOUND.
SO, WHY KEEP THE LIE ALIVE?
NATIONAL SECURITY????? IF THE GOVERNMENT WOULD ADMIT TO HIS ACTUAL DEATH DATE SOME HIGH RANKING POLITICIANS, MILITARY/PENTAGON COMMANDERS WOULD HAVE TO LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDERS FOR THE REST OF THEIR TIME HERE ON THIS GLOBE.
TEACH THE KIDS IN SCHOOL ANOTHER LIE ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY THEY ARE NOT DUMB ENOUGH YET.
THE REAL SEAL TEAM 6 WHICH SUPPOSEDLY “KILLED” BIN LADEN WAS EXECUTED IN A HELICOPTER CRASH JUST TO SILENCE THEM.
PEOPLE WAKE UP THIS COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN AT A RAPID RATE.
And the nut bags have arrived, right on schedule.
He couldn’t have died in December of 01. I myself seen him driving a taxi in March of 05 outside of Disney World. Or was it Epcot? Either way, I would have taken him out then but I had my kids with me, it was late and we were trying to get a good spot for the parade.
Exactly right.
Let’s see it.
I was at Caesars in Atlantic City on that great day when we killed him. Since Atlantic City casinos cater to a diverse clientele, they have foreign TV stations not typically available in the U.S. On one such foreign channel (Chinese or Japanese, I’d assume) despite not being able to understand what was being said, there was a head shot of the slain scumbag. He appeared to have been shot at least two times in the head/face. I seem to remember that his beard was close cropped on the sides and long on the bottom. Also, his mouth was open and his teeth were clenched. One of his eyes (not sure which) was gone as one of the shots appeared to hit him in the eye. I don’t understand why these photos are unavailable for us to see in the U.S. Not sure why not. Wonder if anyone who had access to foreign news channels might collaborate what I saw that night.
It was widely reported in the Arab world that Bin Laden died in a Dubai hospital, surrounded by friends and family, soon after 911. Certainly it seems the U.S. was not interested when they supposedly had him trapped in a cave and stood down. Bin Laden had Marfan’s syndrome- a serious and disabling disease that makes fairly grotesque skeletal changes. All of the Bin Ladens that appeared in video and pic after 911 seemed to have been cured of this disease LOL.
Dumped in the ocean? No pictures allowed? Was there even DNA evidenced released to the public? Yeah…..right.
Funny how you are skeptical of the lack of evidence of his death as explained by the USG (although there is circumstantial evidence from those involved) but are willing to believe a conspiracy theory that is based on no evidence – testimonial or direct.
I love these small minded folk who call people who do their research CT’s. Their little brains like to talk like parrots spitting out nothing constructive.
First of all, being skeptical of what the USG says is nothing short of a wise thing to do. They have lied to the country on an almost non stop basis regarding this so called war on terror, as well as a wide array of other things.
Secondly, Bin Ladens death in December of 2001 was widely reported all over the world. Many of the articles can be found within the following article here: http://littlecountrylost.blogspot.com/2008/01/benazir-bhutto-omar-shiekh-murdered.html
And lastly, Bin Laden NEVER claimed to be responsible for 9/11 as can be seen in the following video from CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulWWKK3MLJA
And while many will question the truthfulness of his statement, as it is a convenient thing to do if you want to blame him, it is worth noting that Bin Laden has never been one to shy away from taking credit for his “work”.
But I suspect this will have no sway upon you as your mind is obviously made up on this matter. After all, if he didn’t do it, who did? The potential answers would shatter the pillars of many peoples beliefs and therefore the questioning of such things must be avoided at all cost. In the same way we convince children that Santa Claus is real, we convince ourselves that our government is good and would never launch a Gladio type event in our own back yards. But just as the child grows to learn Santa is fiction, so too shall adults one day awake from their slumber and face the reality that stands before us. But that would take a level of courage that many do not posses. It’s in the hands of the next generation. This one is done.
There’s a huge difference between being skeptical versus being a fact averse cynic. It has been nearly 15 years since 9/11 happened and the conspiracy theorists still haven’t devised a narrative that makes a lick of sense or that has any credibility. You send me a link to some blog filled to the brim with conjecture. It is you that lacks skepticism. Your bullshit blog hinges on a single Youtube video from Benazir Bhutto rambling on about somebody murdering OBL. But if you spent some time looking into the matter, you’d see this is wildly inconsistent with other comments she made around the same time.
Case in Point, her article in Der Spiegel also in late 2007: http://www.spiegel.de/international/dictatorship-in-pakistan-musharraf-s-martial-plan-a-515853.html
How can you capture someone who was already dead? Let me guess, her Youtube video was a slip-up right? Of course it was…/s/
I guess I’ll just leave this right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Osama_bin_Laden_video
You’re projecting.
heaven forbid a sitting member of congress or president or one of his appointies did something like this
he did well , but like most people today, started thinking about himself rather than the good of others-willing to publish classified info etc, willing to be interviewed about his life in the SEALS
there are still some SEALS to whom honor is more important than personal gain, but there are less and less of them
This is nothing more than insider trading which congress is exempt from, why not our special forces?
Generals and civilians alike have written books about their lives and military experiences. They leave out the classified material. but since they all have done this then why pick on this lowly soldier for his efforts. We have various histories about most all operations and events and they make movies out of many of them. So why get worried now when there is nothing to worry about?
Sounds like a politician, but this fella actually got his hands dirty, did the work. Does he get $450 K for life or $200 K like those in elected office? Likely not. He needs to do what he needs to do.
Hmm… this sounds familiar. A federal employee exploiting (her) position for financial gain… wait a second… it’ll come to me in a minute…
Hmmm…Condoleeza?
No photos can be seen? Rolled the body into the ocean? No proof other than word of mouth? Yeah I’m sure this actually happened and it was actually Bin Laden.
Yup
Maybe possibly stuffed and a prop in someones man cave.
Shit. The hell you say? If this warrior is done with the SEALS why shouldn’t he be allowed to profit? Do presidents not write books? I mean what the hell? This soldier got Bin Laden!!This is a historical event! Where is the booty for these guys they risked their lives and they get this bullshit treatment. While Ahmad Rashad runs up and down the court and makes millions but the soldiers get shit. This empire is crumbling ladies and gentleman! This is what destroys empires
Ahmad Rashad? Are you going 1970s on us?
It was a historic event, not a historical one. A historic event is one that makes history. The signing of the Declaration of Independence was a historic event. A historical event is one that is about history. The U.S. Bicentennial celebration was a historical event.
Thank you,
The English Language
The reason he’s under investigation is because he’s been critical of Nobama
The Justice System moves too slowly for those either on the government payroll or were on the government payroll in whatever capacity-civilian or military. This shows favoritism making a mockery of justice- justice delayed is justice denied. We have a system which constantly delays and denies justice. A classic example is the death penalty. If it takes the average death penalty about 20 years to be implemented that is not a death penalty because it is not a reasonable time. A reasonable time is one year from conviction- also it would more likely have a deterrent effect.
Hillery needs to cough up millions from all her Guid Pro Guo dealings
What?
Quid pro quo
Why would the government of the USA want to hide proof of the killing is there more to this and why is that the USA government is a big fat lie as always to hind what the people are paying them to done SHOW PROOF America do’t hide behide the thruth you hide from us most of us know the government lies about and steals from us all the time but we can’t or we pay fines and go to jail AMERICA WE DIE TO BE LIED TO….
They don’t want the pictures released because Bin Laden had a NYC Sheriff’s badge on and the room was cluttered with FBI and CIA logo cups, napkins, bedspreads, curtains, etc.
so true
If they are going after him, then they HAD BETTER do the same to HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the reasons I left at 22 years of service. Military has become too political and continuing to serve will eventually put you at odds with too many Officers that are looking out for #1. Could not have served honorably under Obama.
but you could serve honorably under either Bush?
Damn right I could serve honorably under Bush 1 and/or Bush 2 (which I did). Right, wrong or indifferent, Bush 2 took care of the troops . I got out at 21.5 yrs as well because I would never serve under Obama as well, and there is a loooong list of others who did as well. Perfect example is the fact that the Govt is still going after Bissonnette for his alleged classified disclosures in the book which Obama did in his initial press release (and which Obama green lighted and authorized the release of more in the movie Zero Dark Thirty), and his private business dealings. Hillary has violated classified procedures more with her private server and e-mail issues, as well as her private donors than Bissonnette ever dreamed of! Who do you think will get crushed by the Govt?
Oh sure, prosecute this guy, but Hillary can keep and transmit CLASSIFIED emails on a private server as Secretary of State and she’ll get off scot-free.
Amen, brother!
Using his position for personal gain? Sounds like a future Secretary of State
Cant make money while on duty. I guess every member of the House Senate and the President does not have to follow the same rule. How may of them come out of Public Service Rich ?? Many I think. They make deals that make them money.
ALL of them do.
I never had a mission of this importance.that bein said,just me,my duty&honor to the military is 1st.
The fact that he killed bin laden gets him a get out of jail free card.he shoulda kept his mouth shut just the same.the american public should not be privy to top secret information and for good reason.the average shmuck cannot handle or process this information in his head in a military manner
so you are saying the average non military citizen is not brain-washed
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
? Henry Kissinger
Know your place.
Why would someone who brought down a terrorist want to gain fame and money from that!!! He has not served his country!! He does not know what a hero is!!!
Wake me up once Shrillary is indicted.
This (Bissonnette) doesn’t concern me on any level.
Bein a seal takes gruntass hard work.i was a
scout for the 1st air cav and was part of a recon plt for the 7th division in korea.i made alot less money then then these boys do now.i never had a mission to assasinate a high profile guy like bin laden.
Duty/honor is first.american people are not privy to classified information a d for good reason.the press should be liable for all it prints regarding security of our nation.
Should be be prosecuted?he killed bin laden.that in itself warrants a get out of jail free card.
Seal make movies,……
Delta, and Army SF make history..
jab…
Grunt troopers&marine grunts make history is true.some men forget honor and let money take control.you ever met an honorable rich man?
A little confused here. The article claims he had broken a unwritten rule of silence. Did he break his oath after being discharged ? I understand code of conduct rules and the nondisclosure rules, but after discharge, does that “code”and “nondisclosure rules” still apply ? I get it that some of this may have been done while still enlisted, but after the Honorable Discharge he received, shouldn’t those rules be reinforced upon departure ? Is there a statute of limitations on an unwritten rule ?
Code of honor goes to the grave with you
Thumb up Scoutman . Code of Honor goes to the grave with you.
Statute of limitation : eternity.
Not only the code, but that non disclosure form that we sign goes even past the pit. I had to sign over 2000 pages of small print of things that can NEVER be mentioned under penalty of treason above and beyond my non disclosure form. Thing is, I didn’t need all of that legal BS. I learned from day one, that NOTHING that I heard, said, or did was for ANYONE’S ears no matter the reason. The average Joe has no need or want to know what we that serve have to do to protect every thing that they hold dear. Oh, they may think that they want to know, but if they were to learn the truth, it would scorch what ever is in them that they think is human and keeps them sane to a point that they just couldn’t deal with.
doesn’t he know that only Obama and Hillary are permitted to prophet from Bin Laden’s death?
And yet, Hillary Clinton still enjoys protection and freedom. How is this justice?
I’d much rather see DOJ investigate some of the crooked Senators and Congressmen who have become, or at least expanded their wealth through their office. This is low level stuff that hasn’t hurt anyone. The congresscritters, on the other hand, have screwed lots of people.
Yeah, let’s hang this former Navy Seal who has probably done more for this country in one night than the current frontrunner in the Democratic party has done in her entire miserable, cheating, lying, phony foundation money laundering life. SHe has broken the same laws they’re chasing this guy for but she’ll never suffer because the “insiders” will cover her butt, however a man who should be considered a hero get’s hung out to dry.
“. . . has probably done more for this country in one night . . .”
For his country? Like what, for instance?
Like being part of the Seal team that KILLED Osama Bin Laden. Did you read the article?
Targeted killing of an, old, sick and unarmed suspect, as opposed to capture, arrest and trial for his alleged crimes, does nothing for our country but increase the hatred much of the world has for us and show the entire world that we don’t really live by the standards we pretend to and which we preach and promote in our public statements.
It’s certainly nothing of which to be proud.
Did you read our Constitution? Take a civics class in high school? Is there any system of ethics or morality upon which your actions and judgments are based? Or are you just one of the vengeance and blood lust gang?
where is the picture? I want to see the picture…
Bin Laden died years before he was “shot and killed” because he was on kidney dialysis and already a dying man. Fake and gay.
National Security my @$$ this is strictly about power and control and fear that the picture will cause the same kind of upset that pictures of the prophet. BS bureaucrats. Whatever this guy needs for his defense he should get against these nazis. This is why I had to leave the military…Too many politicians and not enough soldiers in the lead ranks.
I can’t understand why so many thoughtless Americans believe that so many people are above the law simply because they’ve done some service for the nation. I am also sick of hearing loudmouths say that the former Secretary of State gave away classified information. There was an investigation and the end result was that she did nothing of the sort. If serving your country means that you are above the laws, rules and regulations of the military that you serve, and the nation that fields that military, just how damned American are you?
Yea…. Hillary Clinton can possess a private server, send classified information over the aforementioned civilian server as Sec of State, hell, Ash Carter, The SECDEF, who has been in the Pentagon for years was recently caught using a Private server… and of course both he and Hillary know better… But Barack Hussein Soretoro Obama, and his “I will have the most transparent Administration in history” was all a fraud… Obama is a fraud. Clinton is a fraud. Kerry is a fraud. Pelosi is a fraud. Reid is a fraud. These aforementioned clowns make the dither George W. Bush look like all our founding father’s combined.
This investigation will be closed, with no charges, once “The Donald” takes the Oval Office. THANK GOD !!
You mean like the private servers Condi Rice and Dick Cheney and George Bush used? The ones that deleted FIVE MILLION EMAILS about the run up to the Iraq War before they were turned over to the NSA?
Gimme a break, moron. This became an issue because the GOP needed another little blue dress. The freaking NSA *cleared* her server, but then again, you probably believe Obama was born in Kenya, right?
The NSA “cleared” her SERVER? LOL
Uhhhh no. They DID NOT.
Condi Rice used a PRIVATE SERVER? Really?
No, she certainly did no such thing.
Sorry bro. Both Condi and Colin Powell used private email accounts. Fact!
Well said I’m so glad to see there is always one guy who actually remembers the news that really happened.
That’s it, let’s prosecute one of our best warriors who (aside from defending us every day) also helped in killing OBL for allegedly exposing classified information, but we’ll go ahead and let a Democrat front runner (who we KNOW exposed classified information) run for president. It’s a wonder why our military men and women even want to serve this country anymore, and I don’t blame them!!!
“. . . one of our best warriors who (aside from defending us every day) . . . ”
Best at what? And defending whom from what, exactly?
This mindless worship of the military is one of the dumbest and ugliest features of U.S. culture. Our barbarians are, mostly, inside the gates.
Yea we’ll see how much s**t talking u do when those jihads come over here n start blowing themselves up while ur pretty lil democratic a** is at the mall buying ur tight gap jeans n worrying about ur old navy flip flops remember something the reason u can have dumb s**t come out ur mouth is BC of those men and women who are in our military so when the s**t hits the fan have fun throwing rocks n sticks at people who r trying to kill u and neone u care about then we’ll see how appreciative u are for our military sure ur up Hilary’s a** like her pants suit hahaha
You write just the way I expect people of your views to write: like a semi-literate ignoramus.
It is credulous fools like you who have kept the Perpetual War Machine in business and enriching themselves 93% of the time since we declared independence.
If you are a rage filled, hateful person with a lust for the blood of innocent men, women and children on your hands and a general desire to commit mass murder, put on a uniform with a flag on the sleeve a go kill all those unlike yourself. Call yourself a patriot – all will be forgiven.
Patriotism – the virtue of the vicious, the disease of the mindless.
Umm . . . you aren’t really directing that remark at me, are you? ;^)
Because I could hardly agree more.
He laid his life on the line for us… Well, certainly now we must prosecute him for trying to better his life. It is a damn shame is all I can say.
“He laid his life on the line for us…”
Well, I’m sure he thoughy that was what he was doing, but it was nothing of the kind.
If it’s OK for Hillary Clinton to reveal classified information the it should be OK for him to do the same.
The difference is that Bissonette traded the information for personal profit.
I don’t have an axe to grind with any of them, him or Hillary, but the statement you just wrote was so ludicrous i had to laugh.
Dude – everything Hillary has ever done in her life, including running for president, was for personal profit.
It has been always very clear that part of the Navy Seal’s Code states that whatever happens on missions stays classified. The problem is that people join now the Navy Seals to become famous and profit from it. That is new. Navy Seals are supposed to think always like a team and be loyal to each other even after retiring from the military.
But he’s not even the one who shot him. At least not first. That was Rob O’Neill.
Or at least, that is what Rob O’Neill wants us to know.
No, it was this guy I overheard at a bar last night. He was also ready to take the kill shot on Saddam Hussein in 1991 but the UN had him stand down.
I think I understand why the Gov did not want the body of bin Laden to be seen. This could/probably would have given daiquiri their martyr. BUT we have shown pix of every other
terrorist Leader in his death. Mr. Bissonnette was also a member of Navy Seal 6. I am stiII waiting for our government/this admin. to discuss and CARE about
the death of 30 … YES 30…Navy Seal 6 Members in ONE helicopter crash. This is the team that kiIIed Bin Laden. Our Gov/Admin swept this under the rug – the press made IittIe of this incident — I believe it is an execution for their actions re – kiIIing Bin Laden.
There is something very wrong here. So when Uncle Sam brings this issue to the forefront … I may think it is wrong for Navy Seal 6 Mr. Bissonnette to provide this information. And it has been a Long time since bin Laden’s death. It is time to see his death pix. Heck, you can go on-Line and see the death pictures of President Kennedy’s autopsy…
Had the body been released he would have gotten a martyrs funeral.he,the family,&islam were dissed by feeding him to the fishes
and yet, Hillary Rodham Criminal is still uncharged in her mishandling classified information that went through the personal server she set up to avoid DOJ scrutiny. Every little bit of faith I have in the US justice system gets eroded more and more on a daily basis
No one is to profit from an operation unless said person is above the rank of Lt Col, for oblivious reasons
I guess someone forgot to tell him that only Haliburton, Boeing, GE, Lockheed, etc. are allowed to profit off war, not him.
We all know that this was a staged event . Osama Bin Laden had died years earlier . He had severe kidney problems and was also a CIA asset at one time.
Also there is a mysterious crash of a helicopter with a Seal Team unit aboard in Afghanistan shortly after. This guy in my humble opinion is a smokescreen.
Something really stinks about this guy . In my opinion he is not a truth teller but a dis-informer He deserves what he is getting
There’s nothing mysterious about it. The SEAL unit killed on the helicopter wasn’t the same guys who was on the Bin Laden raid.
Huh? Profiting off of war is a crime? When did that become law? ROTFLMAO.
Bissonnette traded his fellow Seals trust, oath and his loyalty to the Navy and America for money. He does his fellow Seals, country and military a disservice by putting his ego and self righteous in place of them and country. He should be charged for his betrayal. Clearly he cannot be trusted.
What a bunch of PROPAGANDA !!!!!
That photo has been proven fake and they even found the original photo that it was based/photoshopped from.
Just Obama pacifying our enemies by harassing the guy who killed that animal. Most of them died in a helicopter crash. This poor guy gets made an example of
If private entrepreneurship it not allowed while in the service then he knew better.
There’s a very big difference between fighting for your country and fighting for your government. He’s being punished for having that knowledge.
And Hilliary Clinton slides by….
THIS GUY IS A TOTAL DISGRACE. IF HE WERE A TRUE SEAL HE NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEKED OUT GLORY FOR HIS ACTIONS. JUST ANOTHER SCUM LOOKING FOR FAME.
“Seeked out??”
@Disapointed
Better than dying in a helicopter crash, or a bullet in the back of the head on a cold nasty february night out with the boys, after gulping down a denny’s big banger breakfast at 5 am.
Maybe the book is the only thing keeping him alive..hmm.
He can’t be as smart as they say. When they offered me a form to sign on disclosure; I threw it in the garbage. There is no such form on my record. This also proves; that describing the military in any way; without permission is foreboden. You are nothing but trash to the service; and will be discarded when you do something they don’t like. Imagine; the govt took money from his book deals. The govt sucks ass. But most people are gagged from telling the true story; because of the big bad wolf.
Larry, you are correct,the Only people that are allowed to profit from anything is these Crooked,Corrupt ,Politicians.Every one of the service members should quit and come home and tell this Corrupt Government to go to Hell.
90% of the DOJ, DOD and Congress need to be put on notice that they are next in line for prosecution.
Cruel and unusual punishment. He shares a cell with Hillary.
How many times has Obama done a victory lap and profited from OBL death?
absolutely…truth is it is unauthorized because it may show they only shot a guy who looked like bin laden….the whole thing is a joke…buried at sea…my adz…National security reasons?….I thought we don’t have to worry about them anymore hussein obama….ridiculous…
This is government overreach.
When you begin to brag about your exploits, you immediately lose all credibility. There is a reason ST6 members stay quiet. They do the job they have to do, and move on. They are not looking for accolades, unlike a fame whore like Bissonette.
Funny how all of you are all about this conspiracy theory, but will have nothing to do with the mother-of-them-all…
Which one would that be? September 11th?
I find it impossible to buy those stories when they can’t even get the mechanics of the building collapse right.
Tell me about building 7.
So how is this case different than Haliburton and VP Dick Cheney in terms of coi or national security?
Or, the government sharing classified information for their propaganda movie.
According to this article, Osama bin Laden died in December of 2001, had a funeral and was buried in the Tora Bora mountains:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html
As incredible as it may seem to be that the United States government would lie to the world about Osama bin Laden’s demise in Pakistan, with the entire “Situation Room” drama, if I was a betting person and the TRUTH were to be revealed, I would bet that Osama bin Laden was “kept alive” to be some future president’s (Obama’s) trophy when the “right time” came (Obama’s re-election).
Perhaps “someone” was killed at Tora Bora and unceremoniously “buried at sea”, but I will never believe it was “Osama bin Laden”.
You’re really using FOX as a source? Try again.
He wouldn’t have to use any other source, or link, article, etc…..if we were able to have seen Our Country’s Most Hated & Wanted Enemy actually Dead, Killed, Captured, “Stood Down” as they said in a cave…..etc….As we were able to see under Bush, of Sadam Hussein found in his Rat Hole underground, captured, incarcerated and later Dead…….There would be none of this here that is rambling on down the page…..or the issues with the Seal himself….as they say…..Don’t believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see….
I must agree to some extent. The burial at sea was suspicious no doubt. Second, the helicopter did not fail when it landed. They blew it up and left it there as evidence that Americans went to a compound. That is why in the aftermath, a few different seals claimed to have been there and shot Osama, because the story is made up and they all can claim what they want. In addition, there is zero evidence provided to the public that he was in the compound and killed. The only evidence they might be able to muster would be a photo and of course they refuse.
How is it different. Seriously? This news link was a report from a taliban claim not the White House. What an idiot.
I never believed the Bin Laden assassination. I doesn’t make any sense: why would you kill Bin Laden after spending billions of dollars over 10+ years searching for him? Why would they “dump his body into the ocean” immediately after killing him? Look at how they paraded Saddam Hussein around like a trophy after catching him; surely they would have done the same with Bin Laden. No independently verified autopsy done by an independent (not USA puppet state) medical team? Just like the bullshit narrative of 9-11, this is another bullshit narrative compliments of your Zionist-American police state. Who knows what actually happened. Never trust them.
I agree with you on all counts. None of it makes sense. None of it.
Two potential reasons: You don’t give ISIS anything to recruit with, and the Bin Laden family is Saudi royalty, they don’t want their “black sheep” (who they were funding all along) shown in that way. Sadly I think the real reason is more the latter.
The photos of ol’ Bin Laden’s body should never get out as the crazies would come out to get back at us. Now, in the world of secrets some are going to get out and some are not. The trouble is determining which are to be viewed as real, so we’re left with a problem to see an accurate account of the process. What I don’t understand is the double standard. A general can spill his guts to some bimbo and quietly retire with no jail time but an operator sells a story and has lot’s of trouble. I just guess the boss can play and frolic and step down, but the help gets disgraced for his dealings. The military has now turned into an enterprise by it’s leaders with the profits a huge incentive to…guess…make more war. It’s better than the ol’ Peyton Place so to speak.
This whole idea that if we publish his photo, they will suddenly ‘come after us’ is ridiculous. Last time I checked, they were anyway. We’re to believe that a photo is going to drag them away from the soccer game they were at with their kids ? preposterous.
Never thought I’d see the day that this liberal lefty website would defend a group of murderous war-mongering bastards like the ‘venerable’ ST6.
This website is owned by a billionaire and employs a number of sellout and even full on rightwing(Greenwald, hello) supposed “journalists”, not sure why you thought it was “lefty”. They speak for power while pretending to be “adversarial”. It’s an obvious con just like this ridiculous story about a fake killing of Bin Laden.
This website is owned by a billionaire and employs a number of sellout and even full on rightwing(Greenwald, hello) supposed “journalists”, not sure why you thought it was “lefty”. They speak for power while pretending to be “adversarial”. It’s an obvious con just like this ridiculous story about a fake killing of Bin Laden..
I thank God everyday that we have people like Matt Bissonnette who have dedicated their lives to hunt and kill terrorists before they harm me and my family. And I certainly thank Mr. Bissonnette for the extraordinary work he’s done hunting those spawns of satan while putting himself in harms way constantly for years.
And of course, I shake my head and think how pathetic we are to persecute Mr Bissonnette for simply telling his story. A story that sheds only the tiniest raw of light on one of the most well known mysterious military successes of our time. The separation of OBL from his flesh.
I read the book. I’m not a military strategist, just an ordinary Joe. And I didn’t learn any “military secrets” (except that the military guys peed in bottles at night & the night vision goggles used by DEVGRU had 4 tubes — big deal!) from Matts words. I have no idea what part of the book would have created this asinine uproar. Perhaps someone could explain.
In the meantime, as long as there are Imams shouting.. “I am a man of God. God tells me to send you women and children to blow yourselves up and take as many infidels along for the ride as possible”.. I will support people like Matt. And I will curse those who believe silencing those dedicated few is justice.
Remind me again how many innocent women, children and men were killed in the illegal invasion of Iraq. Then tally up the number of “Muslims” killed by western forces worldwide vs. the number of supposed ‘terrorist’ victims worldwide. Then shove your hand up your assh*le until you can reach out and pull your head down your own throat, and don’t stop pulling until you see daylight…
Wow, exactly what I’d expect from a coward couch potato. Typical arm chair quarterback who has zero clue what combat is. 90% of all innocents killed in the Iraq and Afghan wars were from muslim radicals not the US Military. You don’t have to worry about shoving your hand up there because your head is already buried there. Can anyone say IDIOT?
TomBaby: you my friend need to rush down to your local ER and have them perform a plexiology ASAP!!!! Oh in case you dont know what that is let me explain. A Plexiology is when Drs insert a piece of plexiglass where your stomach was so that you can see where you are going since you have your head so far up your ASS.
Do you realize how stupid you sound? Very stupid. You have been brainwashed by the American corporate media and the US government into thinking all Muslims are evil and are intent on killing you blah blah blah. Acting like any Arab country in the world is an actual threat to Americans in the USA only shows how well the propaganda has worked. Idiots like you actually are afraid of Muslims and think they are going to “harm you and your family”. How about this: go read a book about the history of the Middle East for once, instead of watching Fox ‘news’, or any news website for that matter which continually regurgitate this ‘war on terror’ shit to further justify rolling back civil liberties at home and of course to Balkanize more Arab countries for Israel’s gain.
You said it well.
You do realize your family is much more at risk while in traffic in a car. Even perhaps more vulnerable to being shot by a right wing xenophobe mistaking the headband for some Muslim garb. *(They are not too bright you know)
Obviously, the national security reasoning behind the refusal to release the Osama bin Laden photos is that the bloody corpse will further infuriate his supporters. Then, in addition to hating us for our freedoms, they’ll REALLY have something to hate us about.
When you say ‘they’, are you referring to covert CIA operatives who recruited Bin Laden as an asset?
How the CIA created Osama bin Laden
Wednesday, September 19, 2001
BY NORM DIXON
“Throughout the world … its agents, client states and satellites are on the defensive — on the moral defensive, the intellectual defensive, and the political and economic defensive. Freedom movements arise and assert themselves. They’re doing so on almost every continent populated by man — in the hills of Afghanistan, in Angola, in Kampuchea, in Central America … [They are] freedom fighters.”
Is this a call to jihad (holy war) taken from one of Islamic fundamentalist Osama bin Laden’s notorious fatwas? Or perhaps a communique issued by the repressive Taliban regime in Kabul?
In fact, this glowing praise of the murderous exploits of today’s supporters of arch-terrorist bin Laden and his Taliban collaborators, and their holy war against the “evil empire”, was issued by US President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985. The “evil empire” was the Soviet Union, as well as Third World movements fighting US-backed colonialism, apartheid and dictatorship.
How things change. In the aftermath of a series of terrorist atrocities — the most despicable being the mass murder of more than 6000 working people in New York and Washington on September 11 — bin Laden the “freedom fighter” is now lambasted by US leaders and the Western mass media as a “terrorist mastermind” and an “evil-doer”.
Yet the US government refuses to admit its central role in creating the vicious movement that spawned bin Laden, the Taliban and Islamic fundamentalist terrorists that plague Algeria and Egypt — and perhaps the disaster that befell New York.
The mass media has also downplayed the origins of bin Laden and his toxic brand of Islamic fundamentalism.
Mujaheddin
In April 1978, the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) seized power in Afghanistan in reaction to a crackdown against the party by that country’s repressive government.
The PDPA was committed to a radical land reform that favoured the peasants, trade union rights, an expansion of education and social services, equality for women and the separation of church and state. The PDPA also supported strengthening Afghanistan’s relationship with the Soviet Union.
Such policies enraged the wealthy semi-feudal landlords, the Muslim religious establishment (many mullahs were also big landlords) and the tribal chiefs. They immediately began organising resistance to the government’s progressive policies, under the guise of defending Islam.
Washington, fearing the spread of Soviet influence (and worse the new government’s radical example) to its allies in Pakistan, Iran and the Gulf states, immediately offered support to the Afghan mujaheddin, as the “contra” force was known.
Following an internal PDPA power struggle in December 1979 which toppled Afghanistan’s leader, thousands of Soviet troops entered the country to prevent the new government’s fall. This only galvanised the disparate fundamentalist factions. Their reactionary jihad now gained legitimacy as a “national liberation” struggle in the eyes of many Afghans.
The Soviet Union was eventually to withdraw from Afghanistan in 1989 and the mujaheddin captured the capital, Kabul, in 1992.
Between 1978 and 1992, the US government poured at least US$6 billion (some estimates range as high as $20 billion) worth of arms, training and funds to prop up the mujaheddin factions. Other Western governments, as well as oil-rich Saudi Arabia, kicked in as much again. Wealthy Arab fanatics, like Osama bin Laden, provided millions more.
Washington’s policy in Afghanistan was shaped by US President Jimmy Carter’s national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and was continued by his successors. His plan went far beyond simply forcing Soviet troops to withdraw; rather it aimed to foster an international movement to spread Islamic fanaticism into the Muslim Central Asian Soviet republics to destabilise the Soviet Union.
Brzezinski’s grand plan coincided with Pakistan military dictator General Zia ul-Haq’s own ambitions to dominate the region. US-run Radio Liberty and Radio Free Europe beamed Islamic fundamentalist tirades across Central Asia (while paradoxically denouncing the “Islamic revolution” that toppled the pro-US Shah of Iran in 1979).
Typical half truths. They recruited many for the war against the russians. We gave them training and weapons. It was the lesser of two evils at the time. Sometimes you have to do what’s needed at the moment and don’t have the luxury of hindsight. But of course you are so much more educated in military affairs than anyone in the DoD or military circles. How would you have ensured the defeat of the russians einstein?
Which Usama did they shoot? Real one or the impostor?
Funny how all the other seals on that mission are dead
This guy is holding something on them ..like maybe a photo of a dead guy who is not Osama
Exactly..
Link to your assertion that “all the other seals on that mission are dead”
that is not true ^&(^ass
Investigators have sought to understand if Bissonnette’s role at SEAL Team 6 as a liaison for the command to suppliers of technology and equipment might have been influenced by his business contracts, according to the two people familiar with the probe. Bissonnette’s position often put him in direct contact with manufacturers and suppliers outside the military in order to assess and evaluate what equipment was needed for classified training exercises and missions.
The above highlighted bit is interesting in light of the fact that any number of poobahs such as David Petraeus, Keith Alexander and a strong of other military/IC leaders are able to retire and use their equally classified careers to their personal advantage with little to no scrutiny. Well, unless they have the poor judgement to bone their biographers while sharing diaries filled with top secret information, and even then….
IIRC, there were top level NSA people who had set up a side business while still employed by the NSA who were permitted to quietly retire then continue their side businesses….all without the kind of scrutiny Mr. Bissonette faces. I wonder why…
Shortly after the publication of No Easy Day, Bissonnette’s unit began looking into the business dealings he had conducted while he was on active duty,…
Speaking of poobahs …the Seals may be smart, discriminating and lethal, but they are just the hired help, merely the ‘tip of the spear’, and I don’t see any political will/cover here, whatsoever, for uppity Seal forays into the hallowed halls of U.S. government procurements by the hired help!?
*They should have consulted w/ established companies like dyncorps, Boeing, Lock-Mar or even the ever-reconstituted Black Water on these matters imo. .. or, better still, just ‘coordinated’ with the Office of the Vice President. (*gads, i think benitoe is rubbing off on me.)
Yes. It just made it worse that he was hired help that couldn’t refrain from gossiping about the doings of his betters.
I love the smell of the truth any time of day. Benitoe’s as well.
I find it difficult to accept there could be a national security ground to prevent releasing a picture of a man whom is dead, and who’s death was wildly trumpeted by the organisation both responsible for his death, and responsible for trying to suppress the photo.
Once all logical explanations have been removed, I am left only with the irrational ones left from my brains conspiracy centre – that the photograph mud reveal something they don’t want us to see, that would be the only reasonable ground for trying to suppress it right?
So is it really him, or is there some anomaly in the way he was killed?
You clearly are clueless. As clueless are GW Bush when he inquired, surprised, if there was a difference between Sunni and Shia muslims. Evidently you have no idea what a stupid and needlessly provocative act it would be to display his body — to many muslims who would gladly blow themselves up taking as many Americans with them as possible in revenge. It’s just not a prudent thing to do. Innocent people would die, for nothing.
Have you ever been outside the US? Writing about your brain’s conspiracy centre suggests you haven’t left your parent’s home yet.
So if what you are saying is true them we should not have even killed him for fear of repercussions
It’s obvious the person killed was not Bin Laden
Not at all. Read what I wrote: “needlessly provocative act it would be to display his body”
The repercussions of killing him are unavoidable. Pay attention to the first word quoted above.
Indeed, and the moon landings were also faked because that’s how America rolls.
If you’re going to get your panties in a bunch when this Navy SEAL makes some jack then at least show the same indignation when Mrs. Pelosi et al have all benefited from legally using material non-public info to enrich themselves. Call everyone out or call no one out. Then at least we can call ourselves intellectually and morally honest.
So what? The uber political class has been profiting from their info for years despite their oaths to the opposite. No one ever calls them out for it.
Does any one else find it odd that Bin Laden was ‘found’ holed-up in the midst of the Pakistani army? No? Just me then? Okay, I’ll run a long now…
I find it odd that all of the pictures of Bin Laden’s body are considered “classified for national security” and also that they dumped “his” body in the ocean with nothing external to verify who it was. Very fishy.
Oh boy, the tin can heads are out today in force. Conspiracy’s everywhere. Get a life and actually venture past US borders to learn about whats really happening around the world. I happened to be in Thailand when radical muslims set off some bombs in Songkhla. I was in Somalia when extremists did it there as well. It’s a real and present threat whether you want to believe it or not. Oh yeah Psst “that tin can on your head won’t protect you from the gov’t.”
The existence of divergent accounts, ambiguities and the implausible do little to confirm or deny. These sorts of confusions are present to confound the routine of all our lives and are exceedingly amplified in the confusion of battle. Even in a training exercise where the enemy is firing blank ammunition and the debriefing occurs immediately after the exercise, individual soldiers may give truthful yet quiet different accounts of what they believed transpired. Compound this with the stress of combat and fear of death. All this plays tricks on memory and accuracy will certainly suffer.
We have repeatedly relearned the pitfalls of unearthing and reporting surreal clandestine “black” operations, where in a forest of rumors, innuendo and enigma, certainty smiles from the trees like a large Cheshire cat, only to vanish when too closely approached. If truth is the first causality of war, then reality becomes a close second and they both decay with the passage of time. Neither can the courage, sacrifices and burdens nor even the extent of physical or psychological wounds received by those who served on that mission ever fully be measured or known.
During this meticulously planned “assassination” our highly trained SEALS could not Even manage to bring back a Blood Sample from this “Osama “, to see if DNA matched famous well- connected-to-bush Bin Laden Family before the super strategic “anti-martyr” Burial at Sea OOPS ! DARN IT ! “assassination” of Bin Laden < is one of Barack Obama's more obvious staged deceptions
and of course bushes cover up. Well said !
The new book, Osama’s Angel by Michael McWilliams speculates on the Abbottabad raid and is a font on information about new weaponry and how it is sometimes sourced in an offhand way.It also explains why no pictures of the attack have been forthcoming and what eventually happened to bin Laden. The behind the scenes detail is astounding and every time new information leaks out, the books sensational story becomes more real.
LOL. The book’s full title is: “Osama’s Angel, a novel by Michael McWilliams.”
A NOVEL!!!
That means FICTION.
Some of you commenters are just clueless
Standards, double standards, and standard bearers. I guess soldiers don’t get to participate in the revolving door programs.
I figure that Wikileaks already has enough published to likely indict Brennan’s “The Analysis Corporation”. I’d love to see this prosecutorial zeal applied to senior officials.
Well Said.
@ kbaegis
My thoughts exactly. Only generals (and some lower but relatively very high ranked officers) and politicians get to engage in the legalized corruption that is the arms procurement and trade scam.
Mr. Bissonnette’s problem appears to be that, instead of taking legal advice from Mr. Podlaski, Bissonnette didn’t hire Mr. Podlaski to be Element Group’s registered paid lobbyist with Congress and the Pentagon. Well that and maybe he needed to be a little better at creating an impenetrable series of offshore shell business entities from which to engage in his lobbying and profit-washing and arms procurement.
That’s why when you want to do arms business with the US government, and cream off your “insider’s vig” as a former general or politician, you need to make sure and sign a good fee retainer agreement with one of the big DC lobbying firms that former members of the government and military work for–then you’re as safe as a kitten to fleece the American taxpayer out of money for arms.
Jeez I could have provided Mr. Bissonnette with better legal advice than Podlaski and I probably would have charged him hundreds of dollars less an hour.
As far as the “unauthorized” book Bissonnette released, again, he needs to remember that only high ranking military and government officials are allowed to purposely disclose or “leak” the US government’s “classified” information for personal gain. I mean that’s just a no-brainer.
Now if I was advising him, and I’d created enough off-shore shell entities, I’d have advised him that all contracts for publication of his manuscript would have had to be in one of the entity’s names and that he publish under a pseudonym. And then let the government and Pentagon see if it could figure out which one of their Seal Team 6 members leaked info. Seems to me it would be difficult to prove which one of the actual Seal team members on the Bid Laden raid leaked given they were all there. Bissonnette just needed to be careful to not include details that only one member (himself) could verify so that that the others couldn’t pinpoint him as leaker–and then deny, deny, deny.
(thats funny shit!) I SECOND THAT!
I knew I should have read the thread before leaving my comment above. You, Fred Cowan and kbaegis covered my exact sentiments much better and sooner. I’ll just add some links:
Keith Alexander: http://www.scmagazineuk.com/at-a-million-a-month-keith-alexanders-post-nsa-career-looks-promising/article/363446/
David Petraeus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus#Activities_in_retirement
The two Michaels, Hayden and Chertoff (the latter, beneficiary of the infamous x-ray machines that were deemed wholely ineffectual and have been subsequently been replaced in airports across the country): http://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/people/1909191-michael-vincent-hayden
quote” I’d love to see this prosecutorial zeal applied to senior officials.”unquote
Hahahaha! Ya mean like the prosecutorial zeal applied to Gen. Double Standard Petraeus? Of course, now that he might be demoted to a THREE star General with a pension of ONLY $170k per year..I’m betting the prosecutors are happy with the verdict. Of course, I bet the good General feels like he’s been persecuted.
In the meantime I’ll file your wish under “When pigs fly”.
Here we have a guy who is a self-promoting capitalist
capitalizing upon romanticizing slaughter which
regularly violates other countries jurisdictions with the
cheering support
of a very large number of “government officials” of
the fake USA who
have no problem with trading their “government service”
for lucrative positions in areas which undermine the voices
of the people in the fake USA.
I had a big laugh when I read the line in this article where
we were told that the SEAL investigators had
“ethical concerns”
about Bissonette’s business dealings while
Illegal murderous behavior by someone who was
proudly described as being “lethal”
is supposed to be seen as honorable.
One may wonder how this predatory behavior is
so different from so many members of the so many
White House Cabinets?
The main difference which appears to me is that Bissonette
may have used his predatory insider information
for the benefit of those who like to go camping.
Are they going to track down everyone who promoted and
bought the book because they are clearly guilty of
wanting to know “classified” state secrets?
Perhaps therein is the real reason for this “investigation” –
we are being told it is patriotic to keep people from
knowing or benefiting from what the fake government
depends upon.
Forget about the phony “In god we trust” and start adhering to
the real motto of the fake USA, which is something like,
“Shut up and kill for capitalism and shut up and kill some more”
Oops.
My last sentence should have begun with –
“We are being told to – forget…..”
I hope all these lawsuits won’t negatively affect the share price of SEAL Team 6. They’re bidding for a NBA franchise, will soon be releasing a new single and opening a new theme park. So I don’t understand why they spend so much time in court, fighting over book royalties. It doesn’t make sense to be so greedy that it costs you money.
I once talked over a beer to a “outlaw” biker well up in the leadership. I told him “You guys once had something until the money got in it.” He reflected for a moment, and responded with a note of regret “Yea, Yea.”
– glamorizing the military and wars
– financial gain from war
– militarization of sports
– using military background to enhance business connections and business opportunities
Doesn’t the government want all the above?
The answer is most definitely an astounding “Yes! and we need more!”
Why didn’t this guy get some rewards instead, like the Medal of Freedom (the one W Bush bestowed on war criminals like t blair and j howard), for example?
So why does the government admonish and even punish this guy who shot Bin Laden for doing what the system is precisely designed to achieve?
Mmmm .. well the answer could be is that the government (here Dept of Defence) owns the war and all war related materials. They are supposed to be the beneficiaries (the recipients) of the proceeds of all war. Meaning, the profit is only for the big guys. Not the little people.
Not unlike the way patent and copyright laws work.
“Not the little people.”
Well said.
“The retired SEAL voluntarily provided investigators with a copy of his hard drive as part of an agreement not to prosecute him for unlawfully possessing classified material”
Hilary should have his lawyer!
Matthew Bissonnette may escape the law but never the shunning by his peers. A far worse disgrace.
A big OOORAH!!!
Why exactly is the photo classified? I mean, the death of Osama bin Laden, if it happened, is formally not secret.
OVER CLASSIFICATION is a major defect that is helping to kill our Constitutional Democracy and the disease is very far progressed. Further the preponderance of classified information dilutes and endangers the real secrets, “family jewels” such as real time operation intelligence that are “justified” secrets.
Second thoughts on photo. Our leaders are not only poor leaders but poor explainers an important quality of leadership.
Achilles & King Priam “a better King” that ours got it right in Troy concerning Hectors body.
Achilles: You’re still my enemy in the morning.
Priam: You’re still my enemy tonight. But even enemies can show respect.
Best comment of the thread, Fred.
…..even enemies can show respect.
Sounds like your speaking from experience, no reply required.
Actually, classification or over classification is a process used to circumvent the Freedom of Information Act.
You are right about over classification, but the fact is that the info was classified, and he took an oath not to reveal it. On the other hand, civilian leaders routinely ignore and violate their oaths to protect and defend the constitution, and to faithfully execute the laws of the United States. By the way, we have a constitutional republic, not a constitutional democracy. There’s a difference, and we pledge allegiance to the flag, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.
I was off a little on language but we seem to be on the same page. Yes, over-classification is a Top down policy and should be corrected from that end.
Alternatively, when the situation gets too extreme a whistleblower may be motivated to leak from the bottom or middle ranks. Not my way, but I understand way someone might break ranks to expose illegal actions.
Thanks, Matthew, for shedding some more light onto the lives and morals of our wonderful war heroes.
bin Laden, the assassination that keeps on giving. A perfect example of the transparency of the Obama administration, and of the sense of justice that prevails in our Government. Instead of bringing the guy back where he could face the wrath of the US citizenship and be the centerpiece of a public trial, like the Nazi leaders were only a generation earlier, he is murdered in his bedroom, unarmed, and in secret. Just what the conspiracy theorists were hoping for. I for one did not cheer when I learned of the raid and his death; my immediate thought was, Justice denied.
a big WOW to your last statement. your absolutely correct!
You were lucky enough to go into work that sunny morning on September 11th and not see your loved ones and friends die that day! I only hope BinLaden saw that bullet coming between his eyes. God Bless Matt Bissonette and the other seals for not putting the american people through any more suffering with some stupid trial that would cost the american people more money.
Yes, that is a great idea. Let’s just disband the judiciary, we don’t need judges, or trials or any of that expensive stuff. Let’s just let the cops and the military kill whoever they want. No need for those expenses. And we can save even more by not printing any more copies of the Constitution.
I’m not sure what Norman Rockwell scene you are confusing with the realities of the world we all actually live in… bin laden relished being seen as the evil and cunning leader of the instrument of terror known as al queda. We didn’t sacrifice years of blood and money to give him a bully pulpit, we made those efforts to remove him from the equation. The bastard was most appropriately made dead, and even more, he was made gone. Never to say another word or purposefully influence one more evil. I’d like also to add that bin laden had no connection with the Constitution of the United States, nor did the Constitution have any connection with him. And those men and women who “kill whoever they want”… you get to express your distorted thoughts, to vilify those men and women, to do and say pretty much whatever you please, only because those very men and women are willing to fight and die for that document that affords you the right to make such self-righteous and ignorant comments.
Your attempt to cite your own personal version of history won’t fly. The Nazi leaders you reference were not ‘brought back’, nor did they face the ever wrath of the US citizenship. They were tried in Europe, by Allied forces, in military tribunals. No civilian courts, no US courts, no jury of their peers, no US Constitutional rights, no US Supreme Court review… it was an international venue, and the input and influence of the American citizenry was, I believe, zero.
And – “Justice denied”? It wasn’t about justice. It was about closing the book on bin laden. You may not have cheered the way it all ended for him, but I feel that while it might have happened much sooner, it couldn’t have happened much better.
He’s an American entrepreneur after the blood money. What could be more patriotic and what’s the fuckin’ problem here? I smell Marxists.
Someone should have told him “side deals” with defense contractors are the purview of generals and other Pentagon officials.
“The government has fought to keep pictures of bin Laden’s body from being made public for what it claims are national security reasons.”
Can’t be any reason for that except it wasn’t bin Laden. “National security” is the shield used by the corrupt and incompetent.
Where’s. The. Friggin. Picture.
#WasntBornYesterday
This is the same “Seal Sailor” that helped his self to the money front the ST Maersk Alabama? Google that one and find how these sailors may be master thieves?
Do not expect Truth – their lips are sealed and so is the investigation
Is there any evidence that any of this is real? My first thought is that the SEALs are in it with him; that the whole controversy is meant to establish an official story as an outsider perspective so people will believe it. Because I can’t believe they’re that insistent on keeping proof of bin Laden’s death out of public view… I bet bin Laden is in some very deep, very dark, very horrible place, where they are very good at enhanced interrogation techniques, even now.
my first thought as well….
Well, when it comes to proof of Bin Laden’s death you can interview his wife(s) as they shot him (and killed him) in front of them.
As to why the govt doesn’t want his picture out, my guess would be to prevent it being used for propaganda purposes by groups like the one Bin Laden came from.
I was told by my brother, who was deployed in Afghanistan, that they immediately flew his body to an unknown (by most) location and dumped it so that his place of burial would not be turned into a shrine or further propaganda. I’m assuming it is the same idea with the picture.
We now have drones to assassinate “criminals”.
No longer do we have the POW camps of WW2 and other wars: there is no Geneva convention being adhered to. We no longer even call them enemy combatants or think of ourselves as axis and ally. We immediately label those fighting against our occupation as terrorists.
In Iraq, they think of US as terrorists.
Pardon me if I don’t trust Osama bin Laden’s wife to tell us the truth any more than I’d trust her to shave me with a straight razor. Even before I consider what ISI might have told her she had to say. Hell, for all I know it was some guy from Special Forces trying to wrap a burqa around himself while a giggling reporter took down dictation… I suppose I ought to look into those accounts, but I mean, what am I expecting to find? I could use a link to something primary looking.
Let’s see. There are the pictures from Abbottabad , whom Reuters obtained from a Pakistani guard who entered the compound. (But you’d probably dismiss that as part of the conspiracy theory).
When Hersh trotted out his conspiratorial article, Carnegie Endowment Syria researcher Aron Lund rebutted it, saying “that Ayman al-Zawahiri said the intelligence materials were real, and had quoted from them himself.”
For the USG narrative to be false, there would have to be a nearly endless number of liars and co-conspirators. We’re talking about a cabal so sophisticated that they’ve maintained narrative consistency across different branches of Government, different countries, and different stakeholders (after all, you didn’t exactly hear AQI denying this). Yet this is also the same Government that inexplicably could not get a healthcare website up without making a fool of itself.
On the other hand, you have Seymour Hersh who provides the alternative narrative that is based on basically one anonymous source. You’d think that in the age of leaks, if Hersh or others had a compelling alternative story, somebody would leak “the truth.” Don’t hold your breath waiting, you might pass out.