At a rally in New Hampshire on Monday night, Donald Trump was criticizing Ted Cruz for having insufficiently endorsed torture — Cruz had said two nights earlier that he would bring back waterboarding, but not “in any sort of widespread use” — when someone in the audience yelled out that Cruz was a “pussy.” Trump, in faux outrage, reprimanded the supporter, repeating the allegation for the assembled crowd: “She said he’s a pussy. That’s terrible. Terrible.”
The spectacle of one Republican presidential candidate being identified by another as a “pussy” for failing to sufficiently endorse an archetypal form of torture exemplifies the moral state of the current race for the GOP nomination.
The Republican candidates have seemingly been competing with one another over who would commit the gravest war crimes if elected. In recent months, one candidate or another has promised to waterboard, do a “helluva lot worse than waterboarding,” repopulate Guantánamo, engage in wars of aggression, kill families of suspected terrorists, and “carpet bomb” Middle Eastern countries until we find out if “sand can glow in the dark.”
The over-the-top bombast plays well in front of self-selected Republican audiences — the crowd responded to the description of Cruz Monday night with full-throated chants of “Trump! Trump! Trump!” But such promises of future criminality from potential presidential nominees have outraged many legal experts.
“Torture, indiscriminate killing of civilians, and indefinite detention are clear violations of international and domestic law,” says Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU’s National Security Project.
Cruz not only called for the reinstitution of waterboarding during Saturday’s presidential debate, but actually justified the practice using language reminiscent of the infamous 2002 “Bybee Memo,” authored by disgraced former Justice Department lawyer John Yoo. The Texas senator, who had previously said that “torture is wrong, unambiguously, period, the end,” was asked if waterboarding qualified as torture, and responded: “Well, under the definition of torture, no, it’s not. Under the law, torture is excruciating pain that is equivalent to losing organs and systems, so under the definition of torture, it is not. It is enhanced interrogation, it is vigorous interrogation, but it does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture.”
But Yoo’s definition is absolutely not “the law.” His torture memos, written for Vice President Dick Cheney to provide legal cover for clearly illegal acts, were later rescinded and repudiated by the Bush administration itself, for being barbaric, legally unsupported, and unreasonable. “This question regarding whether waterboarding is torture? It’s not arguable,” says Pardiss Kebriaei, a staff attorney at the Center for Constitutional Rights.
Trump, at the same debate, said, “I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a helluva lot worse than waterboarding.”
Trump has vociferously argued in favor of the utility of torture, despite the fact that interrogation experts are nearly unanimous that, moral considerations aside, it’s no good for extracting truthful information; it’s best for revenge, false confessions, and propaganda. “Don’t kid yourself, folks. It works, OK? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn’t work,” Trump said in November. But, he added, “If it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway, for what they’re doing.”
Says Kebriaei: “Ted Cruz and Donald Trump can choose to opt in or out of both international and American understandings of what constitutes torture, but that doesn’t change the legal status of waterboarding as torture.”
Another frequent Republican presidential talking point, embraced most vocally by Cruz, is the need to “carpet bomb” territories under the control of ISIS. These territories happen to be home to millions of civilians with no connection to ISIS, other than having the misfortune to live under the group’s control. Nonetheless, Cruz has pledged to “carpet-bomb them into oblivion,” stating that “I don’t know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out!”
Cruz has further claimed that his carpet-bombing would actually be restrained. “When I say saturation carpet bombing, that is not indiscriminate,” Cruz said during the most recent debate. “It’s targeted at infrastructure. It’s targeted at communications. It’s targeted at bombing all of the roads and bridges going in and out of Raqqa. It’s using overwhelming air power.”
But when asked if he would like to expand the rules of engagement that currently serve as a restraint to bombing civilians, Cruz responded: “Absolutely, yes.”
Experts say that carpet-bombing is by definition a war crime because it lacks individual targets. “One must always distinguish civilians and civilian objects from combatants and military objects and never target that which is civilian,” says Widney Brown of Physicians for Human Rights. “Depriving civilians of energy, attacking communications infrastructure, roads and bridges … such a bombing plan is a form of collective punishment against civilians and it is unlawful.”
Under Rule 7 of the International Committee for the Red Cross guidelines for the laws of war, “parties [to] conflict must at all times distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives. Attacks may only be directed against military objectives. Attacks must not be directed against civilian objects.”
Meanwhile, Marco Rubio has promised voters that he would start sending new prisoners to the facility at Guantánamo Bay at a time when the Obama administration is trying to close it. In the January 14 debate, Rubio said of members of ISIS, “If we capture any of them alive, they are getting a one-way ticket to Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and we are going to find out everything they know.”
At Saturday’s debate, Rubio left the clear impression that the only reason he was not specifying what kind of torture he supported was that “we should not be discussing in a widespread way the exact tactics that we’re going to use because that allows terrorists to know to practice how to evade us.”
Hope Metcalfe, an international law expert at Yale Law School, warns that any of these policies would be a “disaster, on both legal and policy fronts.”
“The United States is bound by international treaties prohibiting practices that result in physical and psychological harm to detainees, which is why the Bush administration had no choice but to reverse course when the Yoo memo became public,” Metcalfe says. “Prior attempts to evade settled law on torture were met with universal disdain, because arguments in its favor are morally corrupt and legally indefensible. ”
But the ACLU’s Shamsi argues that the current positions of the candidates are a reflection of the U.S.’s unsettled moral climate related to national security. “Policies like these would be harder for politicians to embrace today if the Obama administration had provided meaningful torture accountability, and if it weren’t carrying out unlawful drone strikes or holding Guantánamo prisoners indefinitely,” she says.
The debate is also alarming American allies, particularly in Europe, says Scott Horton, an international human rights lawyer. “How could somebody who talks like this be the leader of the Atlantic alliance? It’s not possible. It’s disqualifying. And nobody in the United States seems to get that,” he says.
Horton says that mainstream U.S. media are barely covering the outrageous comments being made by the candidates. “They are so obsessed with the horserace,” he laments. To write about issues like torture — and put outrageous comments in their proper context — “you actually have to know facts, which is so hard,” Horton says. “Just talking about the latest opinion polls, that’s so easy.”
Additional reporting: Alex Emmon, Zaid Jilani, and Jenna McLaughlin
Best headline of the month.
“You actually have to know the facts”…I guess the millions of deaths, destruction, nation wars, child rape, female abuse, now chemical warfare is better to have than revelation from torture?
Great write…do the facts as repoted everyday make sense enough now?
read:
Torture, murder and Donald Trump
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/02/11/trum-f11.html
Well when I read this epistle, I am trying to figure out if our “shitty” country ever came to anyone’s aid?? I wonder why all the refugees want to come here? If they think they feel they are better off among the folks that cut your head off because you believe there’s a higher power, they surly wouldn’t want o be among a bunch of “God lovers”, would they??
It is best if you think this is such a “shitty”lace, go try it somewhere else!
Mar 25, 2015 Ted Cruz: First President of the North American Union?
Monday marked the start of the Next News Network’s Selection 2016 coverage as Senator Ted Cruz made it official with these colorful words captured by ABC News while speaking at Liberty University. Ted Cruz says he believes in you… that is why he’s running… but should we believe in him? Just who is Ted Cruz?
https://youtu.be/lNhp9H3yCsI
Timeline of the Progress Toward a North American Union
Canadian, U.S., and Mexican elites, including CEOS and politicians, have a plan to create common North American policies and further integrate our economies.
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article/163939368-timeline-of-the-progress-toward-a-north-american-union
http://www.vivelecanada.ca/search.php?q=North+American+Union?
February 8th, 2016 Mass Exodus — More Americans than Ever Before in History are Renouncing their Citizenship
Since 2008, the number of Americans renouncing their citizenship has increased 18 fold, making 2015 the third record-breaking year in a row.. U.S. taxes its citizens on all income, no matter where it’s earned or where they live. For Americans living abroad, that results in a mountain of paperwork so complex that they are often forced to seek professional help, forking out high fees for accountants and lawyers.
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/02/mass-exodus-more-americans-than-ever-before-in-history-are-renouncing-their-citizenship.html
Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered In US War And Occupation Of Iraq “1,455,590”
Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In U.S. War And Occupation Of Iraq 4,801
Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 3,487
Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan $1,669,150,229,917
I’m confused, because I thought the real pussy just dropped out of the Republican primary race. Besides Chris Christie, Carla Fiorina also dropped out.
These GOP candidates are disgusting pieces of shit. They are exploiting the legitimate anger of working-class people to strengthen the very source of their anger: the US empire and its exorbitant defense spending. It’s very easy to scapegoat the victims of the empire, but until the pitchforks come for the culprits, things will only get worse for everyone.
I reg.Republican, but have not decided at all who to vote for, no matter what party. I do like Gov.John Kasich as he has good economic background, and is more moderate with his
Human Social Policies. BUT not yet real familiar with Foreign Policy. I ONLY like Trump on “keeping Social Security for Seniors”! I AM 100% Against Torture!! It definately brings the opposite effect ! I am against such RANDOM ATTACKS, WAR, against other Sovereign countries, killing mostly civilians, accomplishing nothing
that has Improved IrAq, Libya, SYRIA, etc. WE say “we want to bring “Democracy to those people –like the USA HAS????
PERHAPS I being Naieve with my knowledge, as I Still think of Hitler and the Nazi’s & horrid thing they did, long before
We stepped in, which I glad we did. NO ON Hillary.
At least Bernie says what he “wants to do” which financially he could never accomplish it all. He seems weak on his Foreign Policy, which he doesnt talk about. I am Not for total Socialism, Communism, Nazism, or ONE WORLD GOVT. SO , no clue yet who I vote for! Certain things I really support, and some major that I dont. I want much smaller Fed. Govt, States & Peoples Rights, AGAINST TORTURE.
If need to kill an enemy, just shoot to kill…no torture!! ;’)
Stop the massive Jobs, Companies moving out country!!
Change Tax laws!!! Stop Illegal Immigration, but Path to citizenship if lived here 8 years or longer, worked, NO criminal Felony background. Stop 5 years of foreign workers brought in on Temp.Work Visas, all for reason of US getting
cheaper labor & professionals too. I HAVE alot of Wants, know noone specific person can fill. This is a tough election.
Bottom line Russia/Iran/Assad government is likely to defeat ISIS long before these clowns get their chance. Only problem is that most of them want to start a war with Russia instead of sharing intelligence and wiping out a common enemy.
‘We know that there is little empathy extended by Trump supporters…Empathy is on the wane in the U.S. We can observe the absence in many places, from immigration and Trump’s easy demonization of “aliens,” as well as in the Neoliberal defining the poor as “Moochers.”…Lack of empathy is a byproduct of an economic system that creates plutocratic rule.
…Putting oneself into another’s shoes is, in our new techno-consciousness, not just difficult; it is unnecessary and unnecessary because “the other” has no place in an increasing solipsistic universe.
…We are attending a mediation of us and world and not attending to the world directly…technology’s replacement of the human interaction that grounds politics will eventually create an endless number of domains personally chosen, each of which is conducting an intraterritorial politics, which is not a politics at all.
… If personal ruling passions were not lauded as a final arbiter in all matters but responsive and corrigible within a broader social consensus, we would not now be subjected to more than one Monster of the Id polling well in the 2016 Republican Presidential campaign.
…when the notion of “society” is replaced by a personal will to power, which is underwritten by a resident, unchallengeable economics, politics falls into what we now observe in the 2016 Presidential campaign as carried on by the Republican candidates. Trump represents no more than a triumph of the personal over the political. His “society of self” is a “society” his constituents recognize.
…More immediately, Sanders’ campaign to achieve some degree of economic equality may not matter if the angry disposition of Trump followers does not recognize at the start the connect between their problems and the existence of a plutocracy.
…Even what we amusingly call “social” media would have become too impersonal, too “social” in its engagement of political and social concerns, as well as too representative of people and issues beyond one’s empathizing frame.
We will have entered a personal space in which what is deemed “personal” would possess no personal qualities at all within the criteria of an outdated consciousness of human history thus far recorded. We will have entered a social space that confines the social and the otherness of society to the dimensions prescribed by the algorithms of a techno-consciousness.’
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/09/politics-and-techno-consciousness/
I think much of the above analysis elucidative, however, I also think it essential to introduce the factor and concept of the social “precariat” into the discussion and analysis of the Trump-Cruz phenomenon. When the precariat, when politically determinative numbers of Americans who are feeling existentially or even intangibly insecure are presented with the model of a sort of ethico-psychological Übermensch (seemingly inviolable to the “weaknesses” of the empathetic-sympathetic crux of sociability) who is both reflect of and model for their own psyches, the effect may very be well be incantatory (as we are in the process of experimentally finding out). The key, I think, is that the indifference, indeed antipathy, to social empathy/sympathy, has become an overt political symbol and instrument (a knight in menacing armor with drawbridge and high wall emblazoned on his shield), heralding perhaps the eventual end of the formerly social mind and its attendant action in certain significant American partisan realms. However, more immediately speaking, will the nearer effect this campaign season be another quixotic failure a la Romney’s or the overt advent of an ‘ethics’ of hedonistic solipsism in an officially Sadean plutocracy (“bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding”)? Cruz remains a more dynamic enigma, his surreptitious shifts in form and cant promise greater political viability in the presidential campaign’s long run I think.
They must all be removed from power, the Republicans and Democrats, on every level of government!
Revolution now!
robertsrevolution.net
I’m glad I didn’t leave any children to die in this quagmire of a planet destroyed by capitalism and its pursuit of total destruction. That no one in power wants to do anything about the destruction of the only planet we live on in a giant “game” of global domination is beyond me. I’ve screamed and shouted my whole life, lived modestly and watched, with utter abandon, the power hungry wreak havoc on the people that just want to live lives of peace. In the end though we, who didn’t do more harm just because we could, can die in peace knowing we didn’t destroy mankind. QED
Have the WAR MONGERS won….The military industrial complex must be rejoycing
Yes, but Hillary Clinton would not be any different, and Obama violated his oath of office by refusing to prosecute the war crimes of the Bush-Cheney administration, then committing war crimes of his own, including his continuation of the illegal war of aggression on Iraq, his illegal drone wars, and his illegal wars on Libya and Syria, plus his deployment of “Special Operations” teams to more than 140 nations.
Would Bernie Sanders be allowed to be any different, even if he wanted to be?
Or would the Deep State “take him out” as they did JFK?
Operative quote from attorney Horton, ” To write about issues like torture — and put outrageous comments in their proper context — “you actually have to know facts, which is so hard.”
In that context, we have to acknowledge that the political and bureaucratic careerists running the US thrive on secrecy, under the mantra “national security.” Said phrase allows them to lie by omission (withhold embarrassing facts–which if known would make their careers uncomfortable, if not short, discredit their reputations and expose their lack of a basic human decency), to spin a narrative based on the facts these careerists choose to disclose. Ergo, they control the political narrative, which is the basis for most conventional political opinions. (Hence, the real danger to their careers that wikileaks, Snowden, Assange, Kiriakou, et al, demonstrated).
Once these careerists and politicians control the narrative, they control opinion. Facts, to these ladies and gentlemen, are downright seditious!
Be well.
I’m one of 320 million Americans of which 206 million are eligible to vote in America’s presidential election on November 8. I am only one person but I can personally stop these monsters in Washington, DC. cold. I can do it very easily without violence, without armed conflict, without performing Herculean feats of political hoopla or through the use of previously unknown secrets of spiritual incantation to command at my will.
At first blush my one action will be criticized as insignificant, impractical to achieve any meaningful results and even condemned as laughable. But I am undeterred for I know the real power my act can accomplish if only others would do as I will do on that fateful day, that is those of us who know the congress, the presidency and the federal judiciary are completely and utterly corrupt and cannot be changed by conventional means.
Gravity is said to be a weak force in nature and that is true. However in relation to a large massive body it keeps man grounded and spaceships from ascending into the heavens without the use of powerful chemical rockets to break free of earth’s gravitational pull. How easy is it though, for man to pick up his foot and put it down ahead of himself foot by foot, yard by yard, mile by mile until he walks across a great distance. He turns and looks back and says, “Look how far I’ve traveled, for I started with one small step.”
One simple act is all I need to do to stop these evil men, to do my part to end the murder of innocent people who have never threatened me, my family, friends, neighbors and most likely have not harmed you as well for they do not know you as you do not know them, face to face. On that Tuesday when the polls open across our great country I will act. It will be swift yet appear not to be anything at all. Like gravity its real power can only be realized when it is part of a large mass. In this case a mass of people is needed to have the desired effect. Will you join me and become part of the mass to multiply the power to stop the killing wars? It won’t be hard to do, require any special skill, equipment, the expenditure of monies or even time. All you have to do is this one simple act:
Don’t vote on November 8.
That’s it, that’s all we have to do. I said it was simple and I was true to my word. No matter how powerful the government becomes they need our consent to legitimize their authority. Don’t give it to them. Let the system die an ignominious death. We will save the lives of countless Arabs, Persians, Russians as well as America’s youth if we shut off the elitist’s power. We accomplish this by not participating in the electoral system they abuse to continue their reign of terror around the planet. Like gravity weak to begin but grows exponentially in strength as more mass is added, so must we act by not acting, to save the world from Washington’s tyranny and despotism.
Our motto must be, “Dissolve it, start over!”
This makes zero sense. If you have a chance to say no to someone who expresses an intent to torture, and vote for someone who at least doesn’t claim to want to do it instead, then it is criminal not to do it. I mean, how many Germans had to live their lives knowing they didn’t show up on election day to vote against Hitler? People have complained about not having a difference between the parties — well, it doesn’t get much more apocalyptic than Sanders vs. Trump, does it?
It is your argument that makes no sense, not mine.
Voting for any one person will not end the corruption in Washington because the entire federal system has been poisoned by avarice and self- interest. Think about this: does it make sense to continue to shore up a house that is so badly rotted from the inside it can no longer provide safe shelter for its occupants? Of course not, that would be a waste of money. The only proper step is to tear it down and rebuild it. So must we do with Washington, DC.
As far as your example about Hitler, he rose to power in January, 1933 because the country supported his plan to revitalize the economy that was eviscerated after Germany’s defeat in World War I after the allies placed a crushing financial burden of war reparations mandated through the Treaty of Versailles. Hitler’s social programs put the German people back to work and unemployment was reduced to well under 10 percent before World War II. You can’t blame the Germans for wanting to live and prosper again even though Hitler’s antisemitism and race theory was an abhorrent evil that did not formally persecute them until September of that year (see: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/timeline.html ).
Never happen.. never.. That means 20 people who didn’t agree NOT to vote could win an election.. Sorry, sounds like a good writer.. kinda like “sky writing” , won’t stay around!
Agreed! Our “vote” only encourages the crime syndicate in Washington to continue on its destructive path. Quiet, peaceful, civil disobedience should accompany this decision not to vote. We are under a one-party tyranny and it is time for many of us to realize this fact. We need to realize that the “smoke and mirrors” of the political electoral process is just that.
Agree partly based on a quote by Mark Twain, “Don’t vote …it only encourages the bastards”. You have also received replies saying basically “that you have to vote to ellicit change.” That’s a nice sentiment, and one that is used at election time to legitimize a fraud. One pundit suggested it should also be called the Presidential Auction although in Bernie Saunder’s case that may not be true. Just the same, the President is merely a figurehead and Obama may have been lying, or he may have had good intentions, no one will ever know the playbook and results were the same.
As far as Washington goes for a complete understanding read 13 Bankers. Yes, Americans need to say collectively “We’re not buying it anymore.” Aside from that, when a buffoon like Donald Trump, and previously George Bush gets into the position as President, or close to it ..is that not an indication something might be wrong?
When those Republican Presidential candidates smell the defeat coming from the Bernie Sanders movement, they will address the lowest of the lowest instincts in ‘human’ beings. That was Hitler’s recipe, too. Cater to those who willfully torture, carpet bomb, drone and have a keg with it.
It should not come as a surprise though, that the Republican party resembles more and more the NSDAP – financed by the oligarchs and supported by those who will follow any despicable order with glee.
The only good thing in this is that the U.S. has 300 million people and the majority is not as rabidly deranged as these wannabe Hitlers.
No, they’re not rabid. They’re rational, brave, wholesome, sweet, and innocent.
Millions butchered and millions more to go. Those 300 million people are such decent folk. They’d never let that happen, again, would they?
U.S. refuses to pay social security old-age benefits
The U.S. Government blatantly violated my human, legal and constitutional rights by conducting a terror campaign that forced me to leave my country and obtain political exile abroad. (See our book “Silent Terror: One family’s history of political persecution in the United States – http://arnoldlockshin.wordpress.com)
For over 12 years, this same Government has further violated my rights by stealing my Social Security old-age benefits.
All this proves once again that the only law that counts in the United States of America is the Law of the Jungle.
Arnold Lockshin
Note: The CIA-NSA block responses to my comments.
Sure, but if international law were a standard applicable to US presidents, they all would’ve been convicted of war crimes already.
They did? As recently as 2014 a snarling Dick Cheney told Chucky ‘cheese’ Todd, and the whole wide world, he would “do it again … in a heartbeat.”
*>“ … Prior attempts to evade settled law on torture were met with universal disdain, because arguments in its favor are morally corrupt and legally indefensible. ”
What prior attempts?
The only War crime I See . Is That the GOP Republican want History to repeat itself . And if we look at their policies , What happen to the Economy and their War Hawk with the wars they started . I can only ask this question..
To the evangelical Repugnants
The Vision of Christ that thou dost see
Is my Vision’s Greatest Enemy
William Blake.
ps they (TI) expelled tom brown for doing his homework
Hey jimmy legs! Trump wins in a Landslide … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXonGAEPQp8
Back to the future: “But my general belief is that when it comes to national security, what we have to focus on is getting things right in the future as opposed to looking at what we got wrong in the past.” President-elect Obama 2009
*It’s not too late Obama/Loretta!
when the sand glows in the dark , there will be no possibility of anything being done wrong in the future ,
nobody alive to do anything anymore
amen
test
Some are born to sweet delight
Others born to endless night
blake
Keep it up, America! Hell is a place on Earth…
I find it quite a bit alarming when I see that what is, de facto, asserted as hard & fast fact in the headline (“Most GOP Candidates Compete Over Who Will Commit War Crimes …”) gets reduced in the third paragraph (“The Republican candidates have seemingly been competing with one another over …”) to being merely the two journalists’ exegetical take on things. To my mind, the journalists [btw, who’s Dan’s Froomk {sic)?) have got things right on in their text; but whoever wrote that headline ought properly to have shown rather more due diligence, I fear.
This article is not titled correctly. Candidates of both parties (except Sanders) are in the competition to out testosterone each other. CNN is their cheerleader with a report that James “don’t believe a word” Clapper thinks we WILL have an IS attack this year and CNN concludes that Clinton is the answer to our prayers. Their view is that experience trumps (no pun intended) honesty.
Quite right. I actually believe Clinton is the POTUS candidate that is most likely to get WW3 underway.
Stephen Jay Gould – “United States of America – a nation of morons”
And ALL of these Republican war mongers will lift their eyes toward heaven and sanctimoniously SWEAR they are DEVOUT “Christians” who follow, to the letter, the teachings of Jesus Christ….The Prince of PEACE! These Republican wannabees along with their multi-millionaire, megachurch “pastors” and the rest of the lunatic fringe of the “Christian” evangelical movement represent humanity at its most arrogant, ignorant, morally deranged, politically corrupt, greedy and evil! They are NOT followers of Christianity, they are the DESTROYERS of Christianity.
“You have heard that it was said, `An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’
But I say to you, Do not resist one who is evil. But if any one strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also; and if any one would sue you and take your coat, let him have your cloak as well; and if any one forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you.”
When it comes to torture, all the Republican candidates are poseurs as far as I’m concerned.
Instead of another boring debate, Fox should televise the candidates as they torture volunteers from the audience – a sort of modified town hall format. Let’s judge the candidates based on their actions, not their words. It’s kind of silly to pick your leader based on who talks the best game.
Beni: They may take your advice, but will probably limit the torture to protestors, as I don’t envision many volunteers. Brilliant, sir!
And they are already likely to get plenty rough treatment at a Trump rally.
Yup, I can see ole’ Donnie hooking the battery cables to their testes as we speak.
Good idea, but why not use Major Clapper? His certification will be authentic.
Wow that was fast. Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager already conceded defeat to Bernie in NH. Margin of victory in terms of delegates is what’s still up in air.
Like I said, Bernie Sanders is far from perfect, but by comparison to anyone else seeking the top job, he’s head and shoulders above the rest on both sides.
Hillary Clinton may still win the whole enchilada, but Bernie is showing it is possible to fundraise and be competitive for electoral office in this country without the backing of the hyperwealthy, big finance, big business or the MIC.
I’ll consider it a victory of sorts if Bernie maintains competitiveness throughout the primary, even if he doesn’t win assuming he can keep younger voters engaged and agitating for a fundamental reorientation of American politics. That’s how you lay the foundation of a movement that can last and bring meaningful change.
The incrementalist neoliberals like the majority of the national Democratic Party, and Hillary Clinton in particular, simply have no answer to what ails America and aren’t willing to fight tooth and nail for a fundamentally and meaningfully better future for America and its citizens. And that’s because they have absolute ZERO idea what it is not to be rich like they are and unlike the vast majority of the citizens of this nation. Totally and fundamentally unlike and out of touch with the majority of your citizens is not leadership nor is it a path to meaningful change.
You want meaningful change in America, stop voting for anybody with a net worth of over $2 million dollars. Hell better yet don’t vote for anybody with a net worth over $1 million or a candidate who takes a single dollar from a for-profit corporate entity or its appendages.
I don’t mind losing a few battles along the way so long as the fight is fought the right way, for the right reasons, and with the right ends in mind. Losing is often part of an ongoing struggle. It can be disheartening to lose a battle but it is no reason to settle for something lesser in terms of end goals or just so you can claim you “got something done”. If it isn’t the “right” thing being done in the first instance, but rather the “wrong” thing, it isn’t worth doing or achieving by any means. It amounts to crumb sandwiches creating the façade of real political choice and/or economic policy legitimacy.
IMHO.
Go Bernie!
Amen. I see that the MSNBC folks are following their marching orders from the owners at Comcast and continue to lambast Bernie and promote HRC at every turn. No sooner had Bernie stopped speaking, than that paragon of virtue, Brian Williams, criticized him twice for speaking too long. I don’t care that they don’t support Bernie, but just ask that they show some semblance of neutrality in their coverage.
I fully support the use of nukes to kill the nasty ISIS folks even if they are hiding right here. Then we go and nuke Iraq and Syria. Only nukes will exterminate them for ever is what I feel.
@ General Hercules
You think Jesus would approve of nuking any group of human beings on the planet for any possible reason whatsoever?
I don’t think so unless I missed those parts in the New Testament.
Need to catch up on your “nucular” scripture…
LeMay 8:6 and 8:15
“and thou shalt hurl thy holy hand-grenade of Antioch…”
In this epistle, the beatific LeMay intends “hand grenade” as an allusion to nucular fire, in the name of the Lord, employing the oft-used scriptural device of synecdoche.
There is also an implicit reference in this epistle, to Zachariah, 12:9
“And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.”
as well as Deuteronomy 2:34
“And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.”
and Deuteronomy 12:2-3
“Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.”
And there are the words of his Lieutenant, Power, who sayeth
“Putting aside all the fancy words and academic doubletalk, the basic reason for having a military is to do two jobs-to kill people and to destroy the works of man.”
and
“At the end of the war, if there are two Americans and one Russian, we win.”
Surely, as bishop Eusebius has said, “In hoc signo vinces”,
referring to the crucifix.
If such learned men have said thus, can we interpret the scripture otherwise?
It was Allah who told his followers about the Great Apocalypse that will befall them on Judgement Day, and I am pretty sure Jesus would have no reason to contradict that dope.
Great idea. A nuclear winter is exactly what we need to cool down the climate warming.
Thanks for your appreciation. We need free thinkers like you. Just don’t stay anywhere near the local ISIS folks lest you too get nuked.
No problem there. I just wear my “I hate ISIS” sign when I go out, so they tend to avoid me.
Wear your trousers long enough to cover your ankles. That’s a dead giveaway. Additionally, shave your beard and wear proper shoes, not the open sandals.
Naw, I like to wear my jungle fatigues and carry my Thompson SMG from Vietnam. They don’t like to see scary figures like me.
The fine print. These people are sick. They need to be referred to professional heath-care providers. This is an overt displace of dis-ease. What they say is not rational speech, it is irrational. I know a little about such things having suffered PTSD since age 9, I’m now going to turn 65 next month. I speak from experience, I knew when I was having trouble and sought help. These people need help and compassion. They are diseased, sick, delusional and dangerous. The side of the exposure we get from the media needs to be examined in public, in the press, in real time. Not after it’s too late.
I’m hoping things get really bad and they start assassinating one another. Too bad they are all pussies.
Ixnay on the ussiepay otherbray. The vehjayjay is owerfulpay not eakway ikelay GOP.
“Another frequent Republican presidential talking point, embraced most vocally by Cruz, is the need to “carpet bomb” territories under the control of ISIS. ”
Should the same be done to areas under the control of The Party?
Cruz, placing full faith in God, as he says, and the current state of the art, envisions pinpoint carpet bombing…
One can expect the servants and representatives of the ruling class — the politicians of the Democratic and Republican parties — to brazenly call for violence against the 99%. Nothing they say should surprise anyone.
The capitalist configuration of the economy is based on the dehumanization and bestialization of the 99%, the deprivation of the 99%, the super-exploitation of the 99%.
More important for us in the 99%, is not what these ruling class operatives are saying, but rather what WE are saying and affirming — and how we back up what we say.
So for instance, on the torture and murder of our Sisters and Brothers.
Why aren’t more civilians in the US outraged at the more than 2 million deaths of people in Iraq in the past quarter century, deaths due to Washington’s policies?
What will it take for Americans to say, “ENOUGH! Not. One. More. These wars are bullshit. We don’t want to kill our Sisters and Brothers, those beautiful children and their families. We don’t believe the lies that the American President and the Serious People On TV tell us. We no longer believe them when they lie to us about ‘national security’. We are ashamed at having been so inert, so irresponsible, so gullible. We want an end to the $100 billion of weapons sales to Saudi Arabia. We want to immediately end Washington’s economic, military, and political support to the Zionist colonizers. We’re coming to arrest the US warmongers and propagandists. We’ll prosecute these war criminals, and when they are found guilty, we’ll hang them. The covert operations have to stop, and we have to stop them. The aggression has to stop, and we have to be the ones to end it. No more seeing ourselves as the victims, or ourselves as helpless, or powerless.”
“…so inert, so irresponsible, so gullible…”
Yes, exactly, only leaving out insane and evil.
“Disgraced” in what sense? And in the eyes of whom? You should ask the regents of the University of California system if they believe he’s “disgraced” because I don’t think they usually put “disgraced” people on the state payroll at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country earning an average salary of about $255,000.00.
http://ucpay.globl.org/index.php?name=YOO+_+JOHN+CHOON&campus=BERKELEY
[snip]
He hasn’t been disbarred by any state’s bar organization of which he is a member, so I guess he’s also not disgraced in they eyes of the official American legal community.
I guess “disgraced” only means in the eyes of lots of us little people. I don’t think he’s “disgraced” in any meaningful sense except outside of America where both Spanish and German courts have attempted to indict him.
Hell Yoo’s unindicted co-conspirator, Jay Bybee, is now a sitting judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals arguably the most liberal in the country. That his fellow 9th Circuit judges don’t shun him tells every American all they need to know about the state of the legal profession in the United States. At least when it comes to the rich and powerful and those who represent them as legal counsel.
Sad. Different set of rules for us little people.
After the September 11th attacks, the U.S. government mooted torturing four people, considering various means from water boarding to “truth serum” to extraordinary rendition for the first time. As described in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Ayub_Ali_Khan_and_Mohammed_Jaweed_Azmath , three of those people were innocent. The fourth, Mossaoui (sp?), may have been guilty, though I still doubt some of the 9/11 grunts even knew for sure they were on a suicide mission at all (rather than a mere hijacking). I think the results of torture would be very underwhelming in exchange for the brutal and prolonged abuse of three men who were totally innocent, simply the most suspicious entries in a database.
I believe even by Yoo’s standard, the treatment of detainees has been torture. Hypoxia can cause a specific kind of damage to the brain, called Olney’s lesions, and I believe that examination of detainees should reveal that this damage to a major organ did in fact take place. Treatment of detainees with loud music, intended to destroy hearing, likewise is damage to a major organ. So even by their own crooked standard, the Bush administration was going beyond the pale.
To be fair to Cruz, ISIS is visibly mapped along transportation corridors, and so there is a plausible case to be made that attacking those modes of transport might be a valid means of disrupting their state. However, no candidate for president should get away with making thinly-veiled threats of first use of nuclear weapons.
The problem is that American politics is a tightrope stretched over an abyss, and these men walk onto it without the slightest awareness that it is their fate to fall off. For decades God has looked down on a democracy that props up dictators, at a land of the free that leads the world in prisons, and a plan was drawn up where what is willed must be. As the Scourge of God draws near, we will have to look to faith for purpose, when there is none to be found elsewhere. No one who dies in the barrel will fail to see the kingdom of heaven.
Empires don’t restrain themselves when attacking weaker countries. Cruz’ assertion about “targeted” bombing is a lie, and he knows it. He can only get away with such lies because his audience, and the general American public, has been brainwashed to believe lies about the US and the US military.
See Abby Martin’s interview with Ramsey Clark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PROI_yWCHXA
if you’re talking about electoral politics, the shameless advocacy for more and more torture and state murder, you gotta mention…
The State and Local Bases of Zionist Power in America
dissidentvoice.org/2010/09/21433
from Nafeez Ahmed:
America Is Committing Brutal Acts of Torture Right Now
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/america-committing-brutal-acts-torture-right-now
read
Imperialism and the Politics of Torture
petras.lahaine.org/?p=2018
and
Obama administration continues suppression of torture photos
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/02/08/tort-f08.html
Most all the GOP candidates for president are truly whack and I was no less horrified hearing Jeb double down on Bush Doctrine preemptive insanity, regarding North Korea. That seems sort of war crimey, too. Every time he says something similar somebody should be right there to yell in his face, “IRAQ!” Of course, he’d probably just flash that dumb grin and say, “Yeah.”
Hillary’s no less gung-ho in the past though, concerning Iran on behalf of another country, and I’m sure even Bernie doesn’t use the word “peace” frequently enough (at all?) for my taste.
Maybe someone could start asking the candidates about committing possible “peace crimes.” You know, like killing war and climate refugees with kindness – instead of more of that war stuff.
Oh the horror, the horror… (on most their faces.)
“The United States is bound by international treaties” … bullshit – since when??
… please remind me when the U$A has obeyed international laws / treaties in any war … in fact, i think i can safely say that the U$A only obeys the occasional international laws / treaties when it suits (apparently, the privilege of empire).
… for the U$A, international laws / treaties are just another tool for marginalising those in the world who are not falling into line with the agenda of the Empire.
… ironically, most of these international laws / treaties has been authored by the U$A (seemingly, to be applied to everyone but the U$A … and sometimes favoured lap dogs of the empire – eg. the UK, Canada, New Zealand and Australia).
next we’ll have to listen to a debate on the “pussy” attitudes in Europe – followed by ever escalating competition on who can come up with the most derisive terms to describe those in the world who insist that there should be some form of consistent moral code (God-damn … just gotta love those Christian values y’all purport to have – just as well Jesus was resurrected – or he’d be turning in his grave !!).
having a view from outside the U$A, i thought the encore was pertinent – to say the least …
“And nobody in the United States seems to get that”
“Legal Imperialism” and International Law: Legal Foundations for War Crimes, Debt Collection and Colonization
http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=1923
The conscience of a people is their power.
– John Dryden
U.S. media is barely covering the outrageous comments being made by the candidates. “They are so obsessed with the horserace,” (I’m afraid our Mr. Horton is out of touch or bubbled-in).
The U.S. establishment (corporate) media is no longer practicing journalism rather they are cowardly and supine stenographers that regurgitate only what they are told. Those whom are the best at doing so advance the furthest. Those which choose to hold to account and ask too difficult of questions (and follow ups), pointing out the duplicitous hypocrisy and fraud are readily quarantined from access.
For the gullible American public the spectacle of impression and emotion has replaced focus and reason…as well as accurate history’s teachable echoes.
Everyone!
Read:
Follow the Money: From Islamophobia to Israel Right or Wrong | The people bankrolling illegal Israeli expansionism in the occupied West Bank are the same people fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment in the U.S.
http://www.alternet.org/world/follow-money-islamophobia-israel-right-or-wrong?page=0%2C2
and who would be subjected to torture (waterboarding and other methods), bombing, murder, kidnapping and indefinite detention, and other forms of Western terrorism?
See:
Afghanistan: Why Civilians are Killed
petras.lahaine.org/?p=1863
what are the victims of Western terrorism “doing” that makes them “deserve it”? And if the victims are innocent, if indeed billions of people who are Muslim have been falsely charged — and they have — then what do those who inflict this terrorism and who lie about who is the victim and who is the perpetrator, what do they deserve?
read more
http://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2007/05/-versch-auml-rfte-vernehmung/228158/
What makes it possible for Republican politicians to casually call for the extermination and bombing and murder of millions of people?
What are the ideas that have been circulated in American society, about who is Good and who is Bad, and whose violence (or in the sanitized form, whose actions) are justified and whose violence is illegitimate?
What are war crimes when you have decades and decades of evidence demonstrating that the Empire doesn’t give a *&$# about laws or any restraints, when the imperial policymakers and propagandists aren’t scared of anyone? Isn’t the very assertion of “superpower status” a declaration that the laws don’t apply to you?
What recourse do civilians, who make up the 99% of humanity, have to deal with the psychopaths in offices of power?
The imperial policymakers have already claimed the exclusive power to define who is a terrorist. The imperial policymakers themselves seek world domination, but in order to obscure this agenda, they portray themselves as the guardians of civilization, and justify all their totalitarian measures by claiming these measures are necessary to preserve order, justice, democracy, public safety, national security. They have no shortage of false pretexts to cover up their crimes.
Murtaza and Dan must know that the GOP is only able to get away with such Islamophobia because of the liberal support for it, and the bipartisan consensus on the Big Lie (that the US is fighting terrorism).
What is the role of Zionism and the Israel Lobby in the promotion of cruel, illegal policies toward our Muslim Brothers and Sisters?
see:
Seymour Hersh and the Missing Zionist-Israeli Connection
rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=2691
and
Imperialism and the Politics of Torture
petras.lahaine.org/?p=2018
*Do* you have to “know facts” to know that torture is wrong? Clearly the spineless Democrats, the silly media, etc. etc. have a lot to answer for but that these kinds of statements about killing and torture really excite a lot of Americans is horrible.
“These kinds of statements about killing and torture really excite a lot of Americans” — and make them want to vote and prove to the world and themselves they really do live in a democracy.
Is John Yoo really “disgraced?” He is not in prison and was named to an endowed chair at Berkeley just a couple years ago. Until that changes and a whole host of others are arrested, why would someone jockeying for votes play weak?
Exactly.
as long as Yoo and others who are primarily responsible for these policies continue to draw breath, they won’t be disgraced. Civilians are obligated to apprehend, prosecute, and punish these war criminals. Justice isn’t the purview of the court system.
Say whatever you want about Rubio, but you should give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows that “widespread” is one word.
I read the headline for this article and I had to say to myself: “I’m reading The Intercept, not The Onion”.
The main difference between the Republican and Democratic Party Establishments in this case is that the Republicans proclaim to the world their disregard for human decency, while the Democrats cloak theirs with lies and cons. Not only has Obama refused to have the Bush Admin torturers prosecuted, he and his administration have likely violated a couple of international laws themselves, especially over the course of the use of armed drones. Hillary Clinton would be the same if not worse, and even Sanders probably wouldn’t bother to put a stop to it given his iffy record on foreign policy.
This is why it is imperative for anyone possessing human decency and respect for international and Constitutional law to reject BOTH current ruling parties. If you’re fiscally conservative, the Libertarian Party would make a good alternative, and if you’re in the left side of the economic spectrum, the Green Party would be a good alternative. Both have been able to their candidates on the ballot in at least a majority of states.
“fiscally conservative”?
Yup!
I wonder if Jesus, who some of these leaders profess to follow, would say some of the things they have said.
“Torture, indiscriminate killing of civilians, and indefinite detention are clear violations of international and domestic law,” says Hina Shamsi, ”
Had Obama prosecuted the torturers and those who ordered the torturers to torture, we’d have a different discussion today… perhaps Trump promising to pardon torturers already in prison rather than bring back waterboarding and “a helluva lot worse”. But he didn’t and we just keep sliding down the slippery slope of barbarism and savagery.
Pretty soon, we’ll be doing like our best friends and allies, ‘the Israeelis’ do, bulldozing the houses of actual or suspected terrorists.
Also, Obama said “We tortured some folks,” but he never said “We’re still torturing folks.” For instance, holding people in Guantanamo that have been cleared for release and force-feeding them when they go on hunger strike, I would argue, is torture. He also kills U.S. citizens (you know, the “folks” that matter) without charge or trial. Ms. Shamsi in the third-to-last paragraph gets it right. And I would just add that I would take the current liberal aversion to bloodthirsty Republicans more seriously if they got their own house in some semblance of order. If you hated Bush and support Obama, you’re necessarily a hypocrite. Any ethical person despises them both.
” If you hated Bush and support Obama, you’re necessarily a hypocrite.”
And a supporter of routine, lethal torture. The Obama regime tortures, in the present tense. People who voted him voted to continue the practice. They have as much to answer for as did those who voted for Bush.
Fucking animals.
Obama country livin':
Ayup, We shot us a coupla ducks, tortured some folks, an’ then I accidentally spilled my Pabst in the barbecue…
Re: “Tortured some folks” > Thanks for reminding me! Obama has been pretty “folksy”. He almost had me convinced! Like saying “Aw shucks! Maybe we got some things wrong. And maybe we killed a few of the wrong folks. But gosh darnit. You can’t always tell where a bomb will fall.” To that I say “folk off!”
>>The debate is also alarming American allies, particularly in Europe…
And, they thought we were crazy (demented, brain dead, or worse) for electing GW Bush…. twice.
They really have no idea…
He clearly said it was terrible that someone called Cruz a pussy. He was stating how bad it was that someone said that, he wasn’t calling him a pussy. Twisted journalism at its finest.
I respect a lot of your work, but articles like these detriment The Intercept’s integrity.