LAST FEBRUARY, attorney Anisha Gupta represented a Latino man charged with two misdemeanors: trespassing and resisting arrest. At her client’s arraignment, the first appearance before a judge where a bail determination is made, Gupta thought her client would be quickly let out on his own recognizance — meaning a release without posting bail; the prosecution was not even asking for bail to be set.
The judge interrupted proceedings, however, and in open court announced that Gupta’s client, who spoke no English, had a terrorist watchlist notation on the last page of his record of arrest and prosecution, better known as a rap sheet.
In New York, the first part of an individual’s rap sheet lists his or her in-state criminal history, obtained from the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, or DCJS. The last part shows any criminal history that occurred out of state or at the federal level. Gupta typically considered the last pages to be of little relevance for court hearings in the Bronx, because they are frequently rife with errors. Judges and prosecutors don’t tend to focus on them, according to Gupta.
“I said to her, ‘Judge, I don’t think he’s on the terrorist watchlist. There are so many errors on the last pages of people’s rap sheets,’” recalled Gupta, who works in the criminal defense practice of the Bronx Defenders. “And the judge said, ‘Well, counsel, I’ve never seen this terrorist watchlist thing. We’re going to have to check on it. I’m not going to release him.’”
“Counsel, he could be a sleeper,” the judge continued, according to Gupta.
Gupta’s client is one of an unknown number of criminal defendants who have found out their name is on the terrorism watchlist because a judge, prosecutor, or public defender noticed a notation on their rap sheet while they were in court on an unrelated matter. The notations are provided by the National Crime Information Center, or NCIC, an FBI-run database of criminal records that is used by virtually every law enforcement agency in the U.S. to investigate suspects the agencies encounter.
That database includes information culled from the Terrorist Screening Database, or TSDB, which is known as the “watchlist” and overseen by the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center. The watchlist includes hundreds of thousands of names. Getting arrested and going through airport security are currently the only ways for individuals to find out if they are on the terrorism watchlist, since the list is only seen by law enforcement and is not available to the public, even to those included on the list. There are no available numbers for how many criminal defendants are on the terrorist watchlist.
The placement of terror watchlist notations on rap sheets highlights the broad dissemination of the list, which has ballooned in size since the September 11 attacks. Every police force in the country has access to the NCIC, which includes files of information on people collected from lists like the sex offender and terrorism databases. When a police officer enters a name into this database, any watchlist information associated with that person comes up. This is how a routine traffic stop can turn into a terrorism investigation.
Civil liberties advocates believe that being included on the watchlist — which happens with little oversight and sometimes with no concrete proof of terrorist activity — could have an unfair impact on the treatment of those who interact with the police and the criminal court system. And attorneys from the Creating Law Enforcement Accountability and Responsibility project at CUNY School of Law, known as CLEAR, say including the watchlist notations on rap sheets is a violation of DCJS regulations because the notations do nothing to establish a criminal record and can be inaccurate. CLEAR attorneys also say the dissemination of watchlist information to judges and prosecutors runs counter to federal policy stating that the watchlist should be used for investigative purposes — not for criminal justice purposes like setting bail.
“The federal watchlists that the compilers of rap sheets draw on for these notations are notoriously arbitrary and inaccurate. People are placed on these lists without ever being told why or given an opportunity to contest their listing. And the lists appear to focus disproportionately on individuals with Muslim-sounding names,” said Ramzi Kassem, an associate professor at CUNY School of Law and the founder and director of CLEAR, in an email.
New York’s Division of Criminal Justice Services “provides criminal justice agencies with criminal history records on file with New York state, the FBI, and other states, in addition to information contained in the FBI’s NCIC database, which includes terrorism watchlist information,” said Janine Kava, a spokesperson for DCJS. She added that the criminal justice agencies that receive the information “are in the best position to determine whether or how the information they are permitted to receive should be used in a particular case, consistent with federal and state laws and regulations.”
Gupta found her client’s watchlist notation strange, however. The first and last names did not match her client’s at all. They were common Muslim names, whereas her client was a Spanish speaker with a very common Latino name. The only detail on the watchlist notation that matched her client was the birthdate.
Despite the different names, Gupta’s client was forced to sit in jail for a few more hours after his arraignment because of the watchlist notation. Eventually, for reasons not disclosed to Gupta, court officers told the judge that her client was not a threat, and he was released. After he got out, he called Gupta and asked, “Do people think I’m a terrorist?”
Rap sheet errors are extremely common: One study by the Legal Action Center estimated that at least 2.1 million rap sheets in New York contain mistakes. Adding information from the error-riddled terror watchlist — a 2009 Justice Department audit found that over a third of the names on the watchlist were based on outdated information — onto already error-prone rap sheets is bound to compound this problem.
The watchlist has drawn increasing criticism in recent years as its numbers have exploded. More than 40 percent of the people on the watchlist — who number over 680,000 — are not linked to any specific terrorist group, according to an Intercept investigation published in 2014. In 2011, the FBI revealed that people could remain on the list even if they were acquitted on terrorism-related charges in criminal court.
“You have the word ‘terrorist’ printed on a rap sheet that a judge is looking at to determine whether to release someone or to set bail and, in effect, ensure that they remain behind bars. That notation is very loaded. I think judges, just like anybody else, are subject to the same biases and prejudices that exist in the rest of the community,” said Gupta. “The fact that your freedom could be taken away based on a mysterious designation you didn’t even know about, and that is probably wrong, is a very scary thing indeed.”
The inclusion of the information on rap sheets shows how the war on terror’s dragnet is ensnaring criminal defendants faced with charges that have nothing to do with terrorism.
“The notations can distort how the criminal justice system interacts with a defendant — it can make it more likely that the prosecutor will dig in his heels, that the judge will set a higher bail or deny it outright, that a harsher sentence is meted out, or that parole is denied,” said CLEAR’s Kassem. “Outside of the criminal justice system, these rap sheet notations can cost someone their taxi driver’s license or lead a police officer to treat them more harshly during a routine traffic stop.”
In another case handled by the Bronx Defenders, a defendant with a common Muslim name was arrested in the Bronx in February 2014 for driving while intoxicated. Molly Schindler, the attorney who represented the man, said he had no prior criminal record. But he did have a terrorist watchlist notation on his rap sheet.
The notation listed a first name starkly different from her client’s, but an identical last name and birthdate.
After the arrest, the police held the defendant’s car as evidence for the upcoming case, even though it could not be brought into a courtroom. In April of that year, Schindler called an assistant district attorney to ask for the release of the car. He refused, however, because of the watchlist notation. “He saw the rap sheet notation, and he said, ‘I want to check with the feds in case they need to make sure there’s no bomb in the car or something,’” Schindler recalled in an interview.
About a week later, the state agreed to release the car, which Schindler’s client needed to get to work. The client eventually pleaded guilty to a noncriminal traffic infraction for driving while intoxicated.
The Intercept reviewed three instances of watchlist notation on rap sheets in New York. These notations can also show up on criminal records in other states. Washington State Patrol and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, for instance, both told The Intercept that watchlist notations appear on criminal record histories in their states.
The notations assert that the individuals have “possible ties” to terrorism and instruct law enforcement to contact the Terrorist Screening Center. They also say, “Do not advise this individual that they are on a terrorist watch list.”
The watchlist notations on rap sheets can also have severe consequences for people’s lives outside of the criminal justice system.
In February 2015, a Yemeni immigrant who asked that his name not be used was being arraigned on second-degree assault charges in New York County Criminal Court when his lawyer told him he was on the terrorism watchlist. Though the charges he faced (which have since been dropped) had nothing to do with terrorism, there was a notation on his rap sheet stating he was on the watchlist.
“I went crazy, and I was screaming,” he said through a translator in a phone interview. “I told [my lawyer] I am not a terrorist, and I don’t know any terrorists. Me and my family members, or even people from my town, we have nothing to do with this. I don’t know what this means.”
His life took a turn for the worse after he got out of jail 24 hours later. He told friends and his employer at a grocery store about his watchlist ordeal, but instead of offering support, they shunned him. He lost his job and said nobody talks to him or picks up his phone calls anymore.
“Everybody’s saying, ‘If I hire you, there might be problems for me,’” he said. A green card holder, he worries that being labeled a terrorist might impact his citizenship prospects.
Civil liberties advocates have long criticized the criteria used to put a person in the database as shoddy and based on an elastic standard of “reasonable suspicion.” The FBI-run Terrorist Screening Center says an individual is included on the list when he or she “is reasonably suspected to be, or have been, engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism and terrorist activities.” In its briefing on the watchlist, the American Civil Liberties Union states that this standard is “baffling and circular” in that “it essentially defines a suspected terrorist as a suspected terrorist” and “lacks any requirement that an individual knowingly engage in wrongful conduct.”
Even celebrated political leaders like former Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy and South African leader Nelson Mandela have been mistakenly placed on the watchlist.
In a November 2012 letter to DCJS, attorneys from CLEAR and the Fordham University School of Law protested the placement of watchlist information on rap sheets, because it does not establish a criminal record.
“We are concerned about the prejudicial effect the inclusion of this opaque, yet toxic, information has on our clients’ cases and lives,” the attorneys’ letter said. “Such contaminated information has no place on a document that plays a critical role in the adjudication of important matters pending in criminal courts.”
The division responded in February 2013, saying that it is authorized to share information beyond a criminal record — like watchlist notations — with relevant agencies. While the letter said DCJS would further review the issue, the law schools have not heard back from the agency since that time.
“Kendell Geers > T:error (2003) sans T” by Florent Darrault used under CC BY-SA 2.0/ cropped from the original.
Why is there no risk of criminal penalty for officials that falsely place citizens on these blacklists? There must be a paper-trail to trace this defamation back to it’s original source.
There is definitely harm or “legal standing” to sue these government officials’ personal assets for violating the constitutional rights of citizens – which is a federal crime.
That thar attorney sounds like she has one of them thar brown people’s names…better detain her too just to be sure…she could know that 20th hijacker don’t you know
Illegal Cointelpro and Gangstalking programs are real and have a trail of death associated with these sinister programs. Blacklisting and framing individuals, for loss of job and isolation is part of these modern day Zersetzung programs, which we know absolutely everything about. It’s easy to jail, murder or institutionalize an individual you have stalked and harassed to death telling a grand story of a government covertly using powerful weapons brought back from warzones and deployed against them within every neighborhood in America. The rogue government, it’s various rogue agencies and your local police are involved in the criminal and illegal racket. They will do any and everything to hide these crimes because they have all been complicate it on of the greatest crimes in America’s history, which involves treason. We watch the watchers and expose their crimes. Strange, so many people are coming down with this mental disease, all with the same story of covert and illegal surveillance programs which involve stalking, harassment, framing and murder. Coincidence?? Snowden was the tip of the iceberg, we were the canaries in the coal mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0U-Y9wKmHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg1-vao5Ta8
How is this level of logic still allowed to affect people’s lives?
For the guy from Yemeni it sounds early stage of Gang Stalking, he became isolated. Once placed on the STASI’s watch list it’s almost impossible to find out or get off. Be sure the local STASI Fusion Center will add to it so x agency contractors who do the will illegal acts will profit dearly.As always FBI Gang Stalking STASI are scum.
Watch Listed Individual, acronym: WLI
A few days ago:
“March 15, 2016
Another flyer, another small leak in the pig trough
A news report yesterday by MassLive (one of the largest news websites in Massachusetts) informed readers that flyers which warn about “gang stalking” have been appearing recently in Amherst, “tacked up on store windows, parking kiosks and other places around town…”
Stalking victims across the country who are fed up with illegal spying and harassment by America’s version of communist East Germany’s Stasi are calling attention to what is happening, and they’re doing so in a legal – but disruptive – way that is difficult for the news media to ignore.” -fightgangstalking dot com
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/03/flyers_detailing_concerns_abou.html
And a few days before that — though in general there has been almost no help from the media. It’s easier to write victims off as “delusional” and/or “conspiracy theorists. ”
“March 10, 2016
Signs of resistance
CU-Boulder Campus – Feb. 2016
I received the above photograph last week from someone who identified herself as a student at the University of Colorado – Boulder. She reported that she saw the sign – which refers to this website – while walking through the CU-Boulder campus. Although I have no information about the person who posted the sign, he or she is presumably a victim of the form of extreme harassment and spying documented by the news reports on this website.
I advocate posting and distributing such flyers (the more, the better) to call attention to the crimes being perpetrated by U.S. counterintelligence agents, security contractors, local law enforcement intelligence units, and other goons who feed at the giant national security pig trough by stalking and terrorizing Americans. Already, several published reports in newspapers and television broadcasts from across the country (linked in this website) have featured such efforts to expose COINTELPRO-type secret-police crimes.
Victims of organized stalking should exploit the fact that mainstream institutions are beginning to take seriously the creeping expansion of secret spying programs. Journalists and civil rights activists are now more receptive to reports of abuses of power by federal and local law enforcement agencies, and private security thugs. An example of this was featured in an article this week at Salon:
“More than 60 legal, civil rights and activist groups sent a letter to the chairs of the Senate and House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, asking them to launch an investigation into the FBI’s and Department of Homeland Security’s surveillance and repression of political protests and social movements…”
“The groups released their letter on [the] 45th anniversary of the break-in that exposed COINTELPRO, the secret program in which the FBI was spying on and infiltrating dissident groups, and even assassinating activist leaders like Chicago Black Panther Party Chairman Fred Hampton. COINTELPRO infamously blackmailed civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr., and tried to pressure to him to kill himself.”
The time is ripe for more victims of state-sanctioned stalking to speak out in ways that are disruptive. Follow the example of patriots like the anonymous individual at CU-Boulder.”
The arrogance and recklessness by which govvies act is why TRUMP & BERNIE are so promoted. Americans are angry about lots of govvie stuff and this is in that bag of defects of bureaucratic f’ups. And the govvies really don’t give a flyin..
The way i see it, maybe the gov is trying in some insane twisted way trying to provoke a fight, or revolution. Bernie says it best.
Rest easy; it’s only a WATCH list. If your name––or a close approximation of your name––was entered in error, and if you have nothing to hide other than the occasional felony, which any humdrum lawyer can get reduced, you will merely be subject to more attention as you move through life.
Why object? Enjoy celebrity. You will exceed your fifteen minutes of fame in no time, far beyond the nobodies around you. You’ll have inexhaustible bragging rights at home and at work because names once up are never taken down. Your wife will be delighted to see you closely shaven and dressing sharp 24/7. Surveillance cameras on the lampposts will turn as you stroll down the avenue. Think of the watch list as a big, government-sponsored production of “Candid Camera.” If you’re given to stage fright, your doctor can always prescribe propranolol. It’s cheap. So smile, you’re on the watch list.
It’s only a matter of time before the CIA approaches you (off camera) to turn you into an informer. Agree with reluctance and tell them you expect money. Study Arabic and read the Koran in public. Dial random numbers on a second mobile phone, always on the same date every month. At appropriate intervals you will feed your handlers the names of your stupid brother-in-law, that neighbor with the barking dog, and the tall guy who crossed you at work.
Now I can’t get that song out of my head–Smiiile! You are on the watch list! LMAO.
“Think of the watch list as a big, government-sponsored production of “Candid Camera.” ”
Highly intrusive surveillance with cameras in the home, including the bathroom; interference with employment; mail-tampering; home, car, and possessions vandalized; thefts; stalking; harassment. Be happy if it’s not you. And just ignore it, as most people, including the media, are happy to do.
Until it’s you, it really won’t matter much.
Mr. Kane
“…….That database includes information culled from the Terrorist Screening Database, or TSDB, which is known as the “watchlist” and overseen by the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center. The watchlist includes hundreds of thousands of names…..”
While hundreds of thousands of names may be on the list, according to Scahill and Devereaux in the linked Intercept article from 2013:
“……As of August 2013, 5,000 Americans were on the watchlist while another 15,800 were targeted in TIDE……”
That amounts to about .0016% of Americans on the watchlist. In fact, the list needs to be not only maintained but updated (Independent):
“…….Details of more than a dozen British Isis members are among 22,000 recruits reportedly revealed in a cache of leaked documents from the terrorist group’s stringent “entrance interviews”……But a total of 22,000 names, addresses, telephone number and family contacts feature in a similar cache of documents, seen by Sky News, described by a former counter terror boss as a “goldmine”…….”
Thousands of European Muslims have traveled to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS which is never reported by the Intercept.
“……“And the lists appear to focus disproportionately on individuals with Muslim-sounding names,”….”
Muslims (especially Sunnis) commit more acts of terrorism than any other group so that is where the main focus should be. That’s not meant to deny terrorism committed by others like Brevik, but is simply statistically true that the focus should be more on Islamic terrorists.
There’s another word for the ‘terrorist watch list': useless.
https://epic.org/foia/fbi_watchlist.html
“EPIC has obtained documents that reveal new details about standards for adding and removing names from the FBI watch list. The documents were obtained as the result of an EPIC Freedom of Information Act request to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The FBI’s standard for inclusion on the list is “particularized derogatory information,” which has never been recognized by a court of law. Also, individuals may remain on the FBI watch list even if charges are dropped or a case is dismissed.”
Looks more like the ol’ J. Edgar Hoover tactic of keeping files on ‘potential subversives’ than any realistic anti-terrorism effort.
Consider that this was all based on 9/11, and in that case, multiple warnings were generated from traditional police, FBI and international intelligence agencies (all without any Patriot Act), warnings that were clearly delivered to the Bush Administration on July 10th (CIA meeting with Condi Rice) and August 6th (Presidential Daily Briefing warning of impending hijackings) – and yet Bush took no action.
Think about that – no action. Didn’t have the FBI warn the airlines to be on the lookout, didn’t request that hundreds of agents be sent to search for the hijackers, didn’t have a joint conference with CIA and FBI and NSA about it, didn’t do ANYTHING. Coleen Rowley of the FBI says she sought FISA authorization to search the 20th hijacker, Moussaoui’s, laptop – and FBI headquarters wouldn’t submit the request the court, a court that rubber stamps EVERY submitted FISA request.
What kind of response is that? Total gross incompetence, at the very least. Some people even believe that Bush thought a few terrorist hijackings would maybe give him a political boost, distract from his other political problems, like Enron collapsing and the charge that the 2000 election was rigged, and that’s why he did nothing.
So no, you don’t need some extrajudicial process that puts hundreds of thousands of people on a watch list, what you need is competent targeted investigations into terrorist groups – and who finances them – by the FBI, CIA, NSA etc.
And, in reality, designating the Saudis and Qataris and Turkey as “state sponsors of terrorism” would be more than justified, given all their covert support to ISIS and Al Qaeda over the past decades, including recently. We still haven’t seen those 28 classified pages of the Congressional 9/11 report on Saudi money being used to finance the operation, have we?
“……What kind of response is that? Total gross incompetence, at the very least. Some people even believe that Bush thought a few terrorist hijackings would maybe give him a political boost, distract from his other political problems, like Enron collapsing and the charge that the 2000 election was rigged, and that’s why he did nothing……..We still haven’t seen those 28 classified pages of the Congressional 9/11 report on Saudi money being used to finance the operation, have we?……”
I agree that the signs were there like the hijackers taking flying lessons. I think that incompetence is a little strong, but not far off the mark. The rest are just conspiracy theories that are ridiculous.
Is it possible Saudi money helped finance the operation? I doubt that the government of Saudi Arabia was involved. However, Bin Laden was very rich, so in that respect, “Saudi money” definitely helped sponsor the attacks of 911. We will just have to wait for the 28 pages to be declassified.
>”I agree that the signs were there …”
Signs!? Everywhere a sign. It was a 2001 Space Odyssey Craig … starring G.W. Grub’s hat, no cattle and one Pet Goat. Out. To. Lunch.
Now, here we is, post circa 9/11 la la land. Hbillary on one side, Gordon Gekko on the other … and I’m stuck in the middle w/ you. bah.
On the one side is Gordon Gekko, and on the same side is Hbillery with her wallet open….
You seem to miss the point – putting hundred of thousands of people on ‘terrorist watch list’ when you won’t even investigate the sources of terrorist financing is a stupid and/or dishonest policy. It has nothing to do with stopping terrorism.
Think about how much it cost to finance 9/11 – first class airline tickets, travel to the United States, flight school tuition, food, housing, travel? And bin Laden didn’t have that much money by 2001, he was holed up in Afghanistan. Rumor is that the funds came out of Saudi ‘religious charities’ whose primary source of funds was the Saudi Government, including donations from Saudi Royals.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/september-11-attacks/11653706/US-report-claiming-Saudi-Arabia-financed-911-attack-redacted-by-Bush.html
“According to Bob Graham, the former Florida senator who was chair of the Senate Intelligence committee at the time of the report, they [the 28 pages] show that Saudi Arabia was the “principle financier” of the attack.”
Terrorists with no funds or support networks are pretty harmless, and although one might want to consider the source of their suicidal-homicidal rage, without those funds and a support network, it’s much harder for some angry rage-filled person to become a deadly suicide bomber. But we can’t have those networks publicly exposed, because it would “embarrass our allies”? Or it might show that CIA funds and money in Syria (estimated at $1 billion in covert operations) played a huge role in the rise of ISIS? Big oops, what? More idiotic regime change games, more gross incompetence, more rank stupidity?
Consider also that the illegal use of American-supplied cluster munitions by Saudi Arabia against civilians in Yemen (they just killed another 100 people by bombing a market, for example) might be generating a lot of hatred in Yemen against the United States, breeding a whole new generation of raw recruits for terrorist groups.
And yet the federal government says it wants to fight terrorism. . . by running mass surveillance targeting American citizens and putting political dissidents on watch lists. What BS.
Photosybiosis
“……You seem to miss the point – putting hundred of thousands of people on ‘terrorist watch list’ when you won’t even investigate the sources of terrorist financing is a stupid and/or dishonest policy. It has nothing to do with stopping terrorism……”
Because you believe the Saudis were behind 911 doesn’t mean that there are not terrorists (Saudi funded or not) that need to be identified, right? The list of terrorists that could potentially carry out operations should be maintained regardless of their funding. This is a cooperative effort with our allies – especially in Europe, but in the Middle east as well.
As I have mentioned, I am not a big supporter of Saudi Arabia and their war in Yemen. The Saudis funded the Taliban in Afghanistan; ISIS in Syria; and probably the insurgency in Iraq which became ISIS. I am no fan of the Saudis at all, but they have their geopolitical interests just like Iran, Hezbollah and Russia – all of which have propped up the murderer Assad.
I am certainly not against making public the 28 pages redacted by the Bush and Obama administrations. I doubt very much it implicates the Saudis in directly and/or purposely funding the 911 attacks. There certainly could be some embarrassing Saudi connections to terrorism revealed by the redacted documents, however. In that case, so what? Pakistan has been funding the Taliban and other terrorists for decades – yet we still maintain diplomatic and cooperative relations with the government.
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And the good old USA was funding Pakistan to fund Al-Qaeda and Afghans to fight the Soviets. Perhaps those 28 pages talk about those links.
The US was not funding al-Qaeda. The US principally funded and trained the Afghan resistance to fight the Soviet occupation. Islamic extremist came from various parts of the Middle East to fight the Soviets which the US helped fund and train, but they amounted to a very small fraction of the fighters. Al-Qaeda developed from these fighters. In the end, the US liberated Afghanistan from the Soviet dogs.
By Afghan resistance, I mean the Mujahideen.
The constitution is going and the US is dying. Unless something is done they will be nothing left of the Mighty United State Of America may be within 20 years or less. What can we do?
The other day, when I went to pick up my boarding pass, the agent looked at it and frowned. “You’re the first person on the flight who isn’t on the watch list”, she said. “I’m afraid we’re going to have to give you a special security screening”.
I protested, but she was adamant. “The watch list is based on first and last name only – virtually everyone has a name which matches someone on the list. The only exceptions are generally people who’ve hacked the list to remove their names. So I’m afraid you fall under suspicion”.
So please don’t imagine life is all smooth sailing for those of us who aren’t on the list.
There is a workaround for that. I change my name frequently. Today it is Middafil Feejersomma.
Not to worry, President Obama’s latest move will make this even worse!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNX2x9pEt7w&feature=player_embedded
This past summer I found out I was on this list. I was flying back from Europe and when I made it to customs in the U.S. I was told that my name was on this terrorist watchlist and had to wait just over an hour for them to clear me. Also, before boarding my plane in Europe security checked my bags and padded me down and after leaving customs security padded me down and searched my bags before my connection flight.
Another nail in the coffin of “land of the free & home of the brave.”
Now you don’t have the right to confront your accuser -the F.B.I. & the secret police state.
Ok, denethor
Since Benito isn’t here yet, let me have a try at this explanation:
The terror watch list is sort of like the military draft. People have a random chance, heavily weighted by race, educational, and socioeconomic factors, to be called upon to “take personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic”, as Heinlein would say. The rest of us can blather and yammer and go to the polls today, but just ask Yitzhak Rabin: terrorism is the new democracy, and the rule is one terrorist, one vote. Of course, like the military draft, if everyone put on the terror watch list would simply refuse to have any part of terrorism, then people would drop the whole idea as mad — but provided a sufficient number comply and commit the acts of which they are suspected, then people can see that the system works. Provided we give the system a fair chance to get up and running, we should begin to see the resumption of popular control over many aspects of policy by this means, with a cost no greater than that of Vietnam or Afghanistan. This would make the terrorism watchlist one of the U.S. government’s most successful programs.
I like the draft analogy. We could make it exactly like the draft: upon reaching a certain age, everyone would be added to the terrorist watchlist. Who knows? Anyone has it in them, and just as someone who is born into a family of republicans could become a democrat, so must it be true that just because someone is not a terrorist at this very moment does not guarantee that they will not become one later.
Anyway, back to the automatic classification. Just as with the draft, individuals could petition for a temporary deferment from the watch list, citing appropriate reasons, and the government would then adjudicate. Once deferred, one could of course apply for extensions, which then could be granted if doing so warranted it. On the other hand, violation of the terms of the deferment would place the guilty individual back on the watch list.
The beauty of this proposal is that it removes uncertainty from the minds of the citizens as to whether or not they are on the watch list.
If you will think back to that Underwear Bomber, who happened to be on the watch list, smelled ungodly, was yammering on about “jihad. . . jihad” and had no luggage and a one-way ticket, was barred from passage by French airport security, but then ushered onto the commercial jet by a CIA stooge from the American embassy in France, you will understand that you are mistaken!
Actually, that fits in with my point: putting people on terror watch lists, harassing them, denying them passports out of the country… it seems calculated as a way to *raise* terrorists.
And still it’s just the tip of the iceberg…, but thanks, Alex, for this excellent article.