A PEW POLL released this week finds that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders voters share a more skeptical view of U.S. military adventurism than Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton supporters.
On most other issues, Democratic and Republican voters find themselves diametrically opposed, but this issue splits each party.
Only 25 percent of Cruz voters and 28 percent of Clinton voters say “U.S. global involvement makes things worse,” while 38 percent of Trump supporters and 45 percent of Sanders supporters take the same view.
Another atypical issue is Social Security, where overwhelming majorities of voters for all five remaining presidential candidates think payments should not be reduced — despite the fact that both Cruz and John Kasich advocate gradually raising the retirement age or other benefit reductions.
Source: Survey conducted March 17-27, 2016. Based on registered voters.
Graphic: Pew Research Center
The poll found wide gulfs on some issues. For instance, only 27 percent of Trump voters say “free trade is good” for the country, compared to 48 percent among Cruz voters, 55 percent of Sanders supporters, and 58 percent among Clinton voters.
Anger at the government is far higher among Trump supporters (50 percent) than among Clinton (6 percent) and Sanders (13 percent) backers. Also unsurprisingly, Trump supporters are far and away the most likely to say immigrants are a burden, at 69 percent.
Almost twice as many Clinton supporters (22 percent) as Sanders supporters (12 percent) want to see U.S. Muslims given more scrutiny — with a whopping 64 percent of Trump supporters wanting to do the same. An overwhelming 91 percent of Sanders supporters think the “economic system favors powerful interests”; on the other end of the scale, just 45 percent of Cruz supporters believe the same.
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Top photo: Trump speaking to supporters onboard the USS Iowa on September 15, 2015.
One major item has been obvious from the first. Many decent democrats, when seeing Hillary coming, auto-reach for a wooden stake, just like I do. Especially the young, who know the financial system (their future) is rigged, and who also just happen to be anti-war. Hillary and Charlie Rangel want to draft you. So listen up girls! The neo-draft will include you too.
You know, getting what you wish for, and all that jazz..
The wooden stake approach is totally insufficient since it is very likely that you will be overcome by the stench and nausea of graft before she gets close enough.You really should consider purchasing a silver cross and some garlic and ensure that you take these with your stake to every Democrat convention and Hillary rally.
You can see the demise of not only the nation, but the people themselves by reading the comment section. The mere sadness that there are people who still support and defend any of the establishment candidates who could give a rat’s behind about them or their families proves the success of the globalists to fool the populace of the opposite.
I, on the other hand believe exclusively in military adventurism. If any action, in any context whatsoever, is claimed to have taken place, and it doesn’t involve military adventurism, it really hasn’t occurred.
THEY CAN BUY WASHINGTON, SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE PEOPLE; EXCEPT FOR TRUMP.
Trump supporters and voters are not interested in any excuses from the GOP establishment, that if Donald Trump is within striking distance of the required 1272 delegates then he should be the nominee for president. It isn’t going to make any difference to them whether the whole stupid, pitiful convention power play goes against Trumps campaign; millions are not going to vote for anybody then Trump. It will be a ‘self-inflicted wound’ caused by there own committees. Know this for a fact that thousands of free thinking people, who have subscribed to my Twitter account and good proportion of the American population from all areas of society will walk off. Personally, as an old soldier who came home after the war, I will just give up of any type of change and the country will go deeper into debt.
BECAUSE I HAVE SOME RESONANCE WITH THE INCREASING NUMBER OF INDEPENDENTS AND SILENT MAJORITY VOTERS THE WEBMASTERS AT FACEBOOK AND DISQUS IN THE MEDIA KILLED MY ACCESS FOR AUTHORING POSITIVE COMMENTARY FOR DONALD TRUMP AND DISQUALIFIED ME FROM USING THESE APPLICATIONS FOR CONTACTING PEOPLE, GROUPS, MEDIA, AND TV STATIONS.
PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE STATUS QUO
I have a exemplarily selection of Trump followers, that includes celebrities, public figure from Washington and Congress, high military brass from each branch of service, sports stars, soccer mums, senior citizens and a magnitude of business people, pastors from different religious congregations and a whole showcase of individual groups from Hispanic and minority people within the United States. If you can think of a group of people or individuals, they have made a stand against the lies of gangster Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz. John Kasick has already been bought, so as Ted Cruz and a whole list of GOP elitists who think they are going to take the place of Trump. Do they really think they can divert their abject attention of intelligent Americans for the first time in decades and change the course of our nation?
JOHN KASICH VOTED FOR THE TRANS PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP (TPP), TED CRUZ VOTED THEN CHANGED;THIS UNFAIR FREE TRADE AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL ONCE AGAIN CONVEY JOBS AND COMPANIES AWAY FROM THE U.S. TO ALL OVER ASIA. TRUMP SAYS IT EVEN WORSE THAN THE NAFTA MEXICAN TRADE TREATY.
Washington has been a sewer for decades, and not just under the appalling philosophy of this extreme Liberal who sits in the Oval office now and who I actually voted for, in his first 4 years in office. Obama has all but Balkanized the American people, turning one skin color against another. Same has crime boss Madam Clinton, who is simply the ‘Sword of Damocles’ for the people, although not quite as bad as Bernie Sanders, a Marxist Socialist who is offering his faction whatever you can imagine for free. Other than Donald Trump there is an aim to control Congress and a government that will be ineffective under the Billionaire politician. Be watching vigilantly of any illegal moves by the Republicans, as time is getting short. My Twitter people are already aware that the Rino’s are stashing Cruz delegates among Donald Trumps people explicitly in the Second Delegate conference. These establishment insiders that play by their own set of rules (40B) can lie, twist the truth to favor the big wealthy corporate interests, but this time they have dragged something out of Pandora’s box and it isn’t going back in– and that’s the millions of American voters?
When the GOP elites try to stop Donald Trumps presidential race, they are cutting out the American peoples votes; Vets, senior citizens; black citizens, white citizens, Hispanic and every ethnic minority who is a US citizen. A very putrid ‘Gotcha’ question about abortion caught Trump off guard, which said ‘Women’ should be punished’ when he actually meant illegal doctoring with unlicensed premises should be punished, but of course the Leftist media as CNN has rode it for the good of National Security risk Hillary Clinton?
TED CRUZ, KASICH, BUSH, AND GEORGE SOROS ARE PARTNERS IN GLOBALISM. Soros Fund Management was listed as the sixth highest individual donor to Governor John Kasich campaign with $202.000 dollars so far. Marxist Socialist George Soros also donated $250.000 to Ted Cruz
2000: Domestic Policy advisor to George W. Bush.
2001 to 2003: Director of the Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission for George W. Bush.
January 2013: Takes office as a Senator in Texas after hiding his Canadian citizenship from voters.
July 2013: Proposes Amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens, 2x lawful immigration and 500 % increase in H1-B visas.
October 2013: Joins Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) and begins giving money from his leadership PAC to operatives.
January 2014: Announces he will not support challengers in 14 midterms.
March/April 2014: Supports Mitch McConnell for reelection.
August 2014: Says he no longer supports Mitch McConnell, but stays in NRCS.
December 2014: In post election, announces he is leaving the NRCS.
2015: Secures the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal for the Establishment (CARTEL). This resembles the NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE TREATY (NAFTA) taking millions of auto jobs and manufacturing that have vanished to Mexico, costing US taxpayers $58 Billion dollars annually. China deficit is $365 Billion in 2015.
3/23/2016: Jeb Bush GOP RINO) endorses Ted Cruz for President.
So let’s face the real issues that affect every American, but for key risks is the Southern Border States. In the last 7 years since Obama came into power there has been one massive vacuum of enforcement from Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California as this administration has refused to stop the hordes of illegal aliens. Using his executive power to over extend his Constitutional right, the US Border Patrol is only allowed to check for criminals. Anybody else is not to be detained and is released into our nation adding to ever growing tax burden to citizens and permanent residents. Just as reckless we have little restrictions on visiting visa holders; we have a 40 % majority that legally enters then disappears.
Just remember all but a few honest politicians have their price and that is why Washington is so corrupt and that includes all liars and propaganda politicians Senator Cruz, Governor of Ohio Kasick, and Madam Clinton, except for Sanders whose money comes from his gullible followers. Donald Trump has taken nothing in campaign contributions, so therefore no lobbyist or direct funding from a wealthy donor can influence his vote if he becomes President. He has paid for everything himself, including ads for the airwaves. I don’t trust government; this old soldier never did, but I am voting for the first time for Trump. Any dirty games including insider convention tricks and I and about 20 others will walk away.
http://www.fairus.com
Annual Costs of the illegal alien invasion (2009 FAIR est.) $113 Billion dollars.
Has any citizen thought about this, that it’s possible the Republican Professional class don’t care if Villain Hillary Clinton wins the Presidency? That further not much will change as jobs will keep going overseas to Foreign nations and Mexico, were the multinationals and profiteers will still be collecting huge corporate and industrial bank accounts. That the daily plague of illegal aliens will never stop coming, as Donald Trumps wall will never see the light of Day. The corrupt visa system will just continue and with no cap on H1-B working visas will keep raising and millions of more jobs will be stolen by cheap foreign immigrants. Our military will stay decimated and all of the gray line executive orders will remain in place for Democrats and the RINO Republicans. Only the popular vote for Donald J. Trump will stop this madness, and our (19 Trillion now, but with the approval of the 2.2 deficit of the Omnibus budget) 21 Trillion dollar deficit, will continue to rise.
Donald Trump is already recruiting some of the more famous names who are in their own right affluent, and will be there as separate professional advisors to the President. They all have unique qualifications far superior to the political hacks that run the country now.
You are idiotic.
Your Trump-gasm is full of baloney. He is just like Hillary,
only she has a bigger dick.
This is accurate ;)
What are you guys,bathroom stall peekers?Sheesh,you clowns got nothing else but sleaze.
No the hell bitches support is vaginal,not penis related.
Yes,you are correct.The people who hate Trump the most rabidly are the Zionists and their little lackeys throughout the MSM and even web sites,where yes,Trump supporters are silenced by Discus(or whatever the f*ck you call it).
Even “truthy” sites!What a joke.
Look at their promotion of Crazy Ted,the ineligible anchor baby,as fall guy for their first choice,the hell bitch.
The vote now heads to the educated(sorry Wisconsin) states,where Trump will hopefully win,and big.
It must be anti NYer votes,the heartland.Idiots.
It was very disappointing that the Pew Poll did not include any polling of the electorates opinion on the following important issues :
1. How do voters feel about not having a single candidate opposing the militarization of US foreign policy, and do they find it surprising that no candidate is presenting alternatives, and asking why in nearly fifteen years the most advanced army in the World has been unable to win the war against terrorism?
How do voters feel about the fact that not a single candidate asking why there is no end in sight to the War on Terror and why the battlegrounds are seemingly expanding ?
2. How do voters feel about the level of understanding candidates have shown about the threat of technological unemployment, and how much do they understand about any of the candidates proposals to lessen the impact of disruptive technologies on American jobs? How do voters believe candidates should address both pervasive surveillance technologies and disruptive technologies to ensure they are deployed morally, and in a way that benefits everyone protecting privacy, and employment ?
Mister, these are real good central, thoughful questions that require planning for the future. Such questioning would make for a series of great IT articles on “The Shape of Things to Come”.
Presently there is no Stewardship for the Nation’s future. Other than some references to abstract concepts such as Globalism, the future concerns only the next political cycle or annual report to the stockholders, money and power NOW. Even science and innovation can create problems as technology empowers terrorists and diminish the worth of human labor and thought.
Question One, the current plan defaults to the mayhem of terror, militarism, profiteering, promoted by neocon and fundamentalist philosophy. Both parties are part of an inflexible and almost unbreakable cycle. I do not expect much to change the peacemakers where probably dropped off a roof or collateral damage in a drone strike.
Question Two concerning “the threat of technological unemployment” we have entered a science “fact” future were human capital is diminished by innovation. Like the industrial revolution replaced human and animal raw power the computer and robot machines will soon outperform our dexterity and even thought processes. Many or most current occupations will disappear or be vastly altered. Way too many people and way too few “earners”. For starters think 25% unemployed and an additional 25% underemployed. “Get a Job” and time off will have a new meaning.
The future will belong to Nations and people who skillfully plan for it, buy and save for it and conserve and employ both natural and human resources wisely. Population and resource control are key but run counter to Global expansion and worship of a more consumption, greater markets and bigger profits.
The current “Master’s of the Universe” are immutable in their greed and devoid of any imagining or seemly care for a future they will not live to see. The average man/woman would be wise to have fewer children so they can devote more to each. We are entering a “Brave New World” both promising and dangerous, choose wisely.
Fred, thank you for a thought provoking and interesting response to my post. The question of how Nations, companies and individuals should best plan for an age of technological unemployment is a very interesting and complex question.
For companies there are going to be many challenges of having a workforce made up of virtual employees and humans presenting a minefield of HR policy issues.
Companies will have to consider carefully which job roles can be automated and which new technology would be the most cost effective, for them. They will need to consider carefully which technology which will be best suited to their business processes, and which will be accepted with least resistance by their customers and their human employees? Which technology which would yield the highest increase efficiency and productivity? Which technology would require the lowest level of support costs nod maintenance ? Calculations and assessments would have to made based on the total cost of ownership, impact on productivity and efficiency, and then compared to the salary of the person the technology will replace. Also risk assessments would have to be carried out for health and safety, corporate Governance, compliance etc.
For nations, particularly those with emerging economies – I believe that they will need to be very cautious in following the Digital revolution, and modernizing to quickly. many countries in South East Asia for instance, currently have millions of people employed in retail, and their shops are thriving with very healthy competition. In Western countries where online shopping took hold, many retailers including large chains were forced out of business, with large numbers of retail employees losing there jobs. High street shops and shopping malls have closed because they could not compete with online retailers who did not have to pay for shop premises, and retail shop assistants, displays and other overheads. The online retailers could offer a wider range of products, cheaper pricing, and convenient quick deliveries and a 24/7 always open ,shop from home experience.
So if we consider the impact of encouraging more widespread adoption of online shopping in South East Asia you can see that whilst a few well known, established online retailers would gain immensely, there are huge considerations for the resulting mass unemployment and widespread shop closures in retail.
Boarded up shops in streets is a very sad sight , and not attractive for tourists, who enjoy streets that offer a lively and varied shopping experience. For emerging economies even the first stage of digital transformation could prove even more devastating ,with greater social consequences, than it has in the West, this is because more people in SE Asia and emerging economies are dependent upon low skilled jobs, and there are less jobs available outside of retail and the customer services sector. A far higher percentage of people in these countries also lack the skills necessary to be able to transfer to any of the new jobs that maybe created by the Digital economy. When you then consider the next stage of Digital transformation – the next wave. Just imagine the impact for these nations when self service through smart machines becomes widespread in shops and banks, and robots are serving nearly every customer in restaurants and in hotels,.When driverless trucks , vans and taxis, and online software bots are serving customers online, where once call centre and customer service, sales people were employed. Is this going to represent progress for emerging market countries, and is it a necessary transformation for them, or should they be looking at self sufficiency, with less focus on modernization, digital transformation and Global trade dependencies ? Are they ready for such a dramatic transformation, and if so will it benefit the majority of their population and deliver greater prosperity, promote suffering ?
Even Western Developed nations need to consider carefully the impact of this age of disruptive technologies. Governments and politicians should be debating this, and planning for this, and should already be making assessments of the jobs at most threat, and mapping job losses to retraining programs, and looking into how best the private and public sectors can work together for alternative job creation,mapped to typical existing replaced job role skill sets. Governments should also be assessing the risks of increased crime and the potential social consequences arising from increased unemployment.
Companies and Governments also need to consider the mid term and long term implications of decreased demand for goods and services as much higher percentage of people will become long term or permanently unemployed and will lack income to buy goods and services. The y will have to consider the very real eventuality of decreasing demand and having to increase export sales to leverage markets and countries which have higher employment levels.
For individuals I agree that saving and conserving is going to be very important. as is making assessment of the jobs which are likely to last the longest will also be key.I would predict jobs that involve a combination of thought and manual skills/ dexterity like house cleaners, plumbers, electricians may last the longest. Many individuals may need to retrain to learn we skills, and others may have to accept that they may have to rely on self sufficiency, and mobility to other countries to be able to maintain gainful employment.
This is a major issue and one that I think is gaining momentum already – this will be in our currentMasters of theUniverses’ lifetimes and it is something that they need to be considering much more actively right now.
When I was young, we looked forward to automation doing more of the work and a shorter work week to spend with our families while having more machine produced wealth. It could have worked but a number of things happened to stop it and the number one was and is free trade and globalization and the financialization of our economies. Yes, that’s 3 but they go together. Capital does not need you any more and your alternative; Communism collapsed in an orgy of greed for their elites who are now Oligarchs in the “peoples” republics. Mother nature will have her revenge though. The last to suffer will be the elites grandchildren who will grow up in what is left of the world living in dystopia.
This year and in all future years I will not buy anything online, and I will also refuse to use smart machines, or any website offering self service or artificial intelligence software bots. I will not accept service from a robot in a hotel or restaurant. I will boycott any business that goes cashless, and that offers no human service . I will not pay for anything online or buy a driverless car when they become available, and I will not use companies who deliver by drones, or driverless vans and trucks.I will insist that I am served by humans at my bank. I will not use any form of social media, or applications which collect my data, and I will not buy anything for my home that has Internet of Things connectivity. I will also refuse to use Central Government and Local Government online services, and payment portals, using Post offices, and counter services instead.
I accept that I will, no doubt, pay more for some goods and services, and that I may have to suffer some inconvenience spending more of my time getting things done, and purchased. This will be my resistance to the machine age, and my personal contribution to protecting jobs now and in the future. If enough people also become more selfless, and change how they consume, then this will bring about positive change and help to ensure that our children can have jobs. We can ensure that they also do not have to suffer that dystopian society, void of human communication and interaction.
Pure? Communism collapsed because it is and was an anti human nature construct of non production of widgets for its people.
Some have made adjustments,like China,where they now lead in widget construction,but America is left with no jobs and trade deficits in a bargain from neolibcon capital hell.
We are having part of the conversation our leaders show have to steward the Nation’s future.
Our leaders appear very keen to avoid public debate on this, and reluctant to pass laws governing the ethical use of technology. There is an alarming lack of planning socially for this rapidly advancing threat of mass unemployment. Governments seem to have a misguided belief that the Digital Economy will create as many new jobs as disruptive technologies will take away. They seem to believe, or maybe just want the public to believe that through career and job skills retraining employment levels can be maintained. Our leaders either have their heads buried in the sand, or they deliberately do not want this to be seen for what it is, which is the most important and pressing challenge facing society today. OurGovernments and leaders continue to have their secretive Billdeberg meetings with many of the heads, and executives, of the big five technology companies in attendance, and the planning and discussions go on in secrecy, behind closed doors,with seemingly no transparency or accountability to the public.
There does also seem to be a drive to promote and inflict disruptive digital technologies in developing and emerging countries. It can be argued that this represents technological imperialism as the strategy essentially transforms a country into digital consumerism, creating a platform which favors the more experienced, highly developed US and Western online retailers to conquer new markets, and grab wealth and assets/resources. Transforming the infrastructure, and the way businesses and people communicate, engage and interact, is a huge business opportunity for the big five US tech companies.. The first wave is always about adoption of online shopping by the masses, and getting people used to self service, and increasing dependency on applications, and the internet – ensuring that masses of data is collected also for marketing purposes.Once the first wave of digital transformation has invaded an economy, and enough data has been collected, it is then easy to increase corporate profits by reducing labour with AI software bots, and other disruptive technologies including applications, smart machines, robotics, drones.
Meanwhile back in Western countries where digital transformation has been well established for longer, we are much more advanced along the path way to the more aggressive labour saving, next generation of disruptive technologies, which will result in mass technological unemployment. The corporate adopters of AI, robotics, smart machines, drone technologies, and self service cashless processes, IOT services will all be able to massively reduce their labour costs, whilst increasing their efficiencies, productivity and profitability. The corporations and their owners will be the winners in this so called progress/modernisation, and the race towards this corporate bounty is going to rapidly increase in the next 12-36 months. Very soon many more companies will be made up of humans and virtual software employees and robots will be more in demand than human labour.
Maybe our corporate governments are having discussions on the threat of technological unemployment, and maybe even carrying out some impact studies, and planning for the social consequences of the machine age ? Let’s hope so, and let’s hope that more people can keep raising their concerns, so that this can be given much wider, and open debate. Meanwhile I will continue with my personal strategy of non adoption of disruptive technologies, planning for self reliance and self sufficiency, mobility, and of course saving and conserving my resources, whilst assessing which jobs might last the longest.
Trump is the only guy to say enough is enough.But some peoples weird prejudices prevent their seeing reality.
Is he a peace candidate?I wouldn’t venture that,but of all,he is the only one to say America First.Only traitors and furriners could argue with that.
I can understand most of these percentages, but I
have no way of understanding the meaning(s) of
“free trade.”
There is no such thing as “free” trade or “free” markets.
The creation of these false notions has been and continues
to be part of a predatory delusion which encourages people
to ignore social and environmental costs in an effort
to promote economic domination over each other.
Every transaction has costs and bogus terms like
“free trade” and “free markets”
are designed to promote a willful ignorance of those costs
for self-serving monetary domination.
By the brilliant Paul Street (yes, the very same Paul Street who systematically and comprehensively exposed Obama again and again…)
Second Thoughts on Bernie’s Viability
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/31/second-thoughts-on-bernies-viability/
First, the presence of a Democrat in the nominal top U.S. job is always usefully instructive for young workers and citizens. It helps demonstrate the richly bipartisan nature of the American plutocracy and Empire. The people need to see and experience how the intolerable misery and oppression imposed by capitalism and its evil twin imperialism live on when Democrats hold the White House. – Paul Street
2009 … ?
4.0 out of 5 stars Socialism vs. Social Democracy, June 29, 2015
By doug k
This review is from: They Rule: The 1% vs. Democracy (Paperback) by Paul Street (Author)
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5.0 out of 5 stars Well presented saga of four big egos and their skills and weaknesses, June 27, 2014
By Susanna Hutcheson
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I was struck by the last line: “just 45 percent of Cruz supporters” believe “the ‘economic system favors powerful interests.” I’m thinking that if that was the low end on this question, the clothes of Emperor Capitalism must be dropping away. And indeed, overall, 66% of the people interviewed believe that it favors powerful interests, while only 31 percent believe “the economic system in this country is fair to most people.” http://www.people-press.org/files/2016/03/03-31-2016-Political-topline-for-release.pdf, p. 17. Wow!
read:
Why American Working People Hate The State
petras.lahaine.org/?p=1811
major points!
What Zaid does not mention is that Pew will not ask the questions that need to be asked.
The questions that Pew poses respondents, and the “options” that are offered, do not challenge the orthodoxies of the ruling class.
Take for instance, this supposed skepticism about war…
Click on the link below to see how questions are framed in such a way as to omit colonialism and imperialism.
Deceptive language e.g. “US efforts to solve problems” and “US involvement” misrepresents who is doing what to whom and why.
So what should we understand the function such polls to be? Is it a way for the ruling class to gauge (confirm) the effectiveness of its propaganda strategies? Are these polls useful in the scripting of talking points in the future? Shouldn’t we see them less as a reflection of what the public thinks, and more as an indicator of what the ruling class wants us to think?
http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/3-views-on-economy-government-services-trade/
What you describe is a push poll. They are used to deceptively convince people of something. As opposed to a push poll, the purpose of a legitimate poll is to determine people’s opinion(s) on certain issues. The difference, as you alluded to, is how the questions are framed and stated. I used to participate in polls until the pollsters started refusing to tell me who funded them.
Both Bob Cesca & Michael Cohen, alleged liberals and authentic hacks, have posted preposterously timed “Democrats-need-to-come-together-NOW” articles this week. One tries the good old “privilege” smear. The other finds new meanings for the word “dark.”
My favorite thing these two guys share: they both have unwisely attacked and had their asses rhetorically whooped by Greenwald several times.
This is the truth. Everybody needs to eat, own a habitat, clothe, and heal when injured. If you are FREE AND CLEAR for habitate, all that remains is maintainence costs. The truth is, there are not enuf jobs for every person – nor should there be if the inheritance of comfort was managed better.
To prevent the FREE AND CLEAR of Americans everywhere, wallstreet raises the price of life support items to keep everyone chasing the rabbit and promote unemployment.
The “collateral damage” is to the souls of persons like Cesca and Cohen who abandon their conscience in favor of anything-for-money. This is the achilles heel of America. And wallstreet knows it and exploits it.
I remember Bob Cesca vehemently attacked Snowden for months and branded him anti-American, in multiple articles carried by HuffPost, following Ed’s 2013 exposure of Big Brother. Many establishment hacks parroted the state’s fury at the time and were instantly proclaiming Ed’s motives dark and traitorous, but Cesca was the only one pissed me off enough I specifically asked him in a HuffPost comment if he’d actually visited one of those IC recruiting booths on his college campus. That’s also when I first recognized the true possible value of recruited journalist to that community, let’s not even mention their frequent foreign travel or access, and exactly how state talking point might become so instantly pervasive.
I like telling myself that question helped slow his incessant whining and state sponsored stenography about Ed, but that’s just a bit of Walter Mitty syndrome – I’m sure.
“An overwhelming 91 percent of Sanders supporters think the “economic system favors powerful interests”; on the other end of the scale, just 45 percent of Cruz supporters believe the same.”
It would be unbelievable if the media was not completely owned and controlled by a corporatocracy that with the current US and International state of inequality 45% of any group could deny the “economic system favors powerful interests”, (I will not bother to list the inequality numbers as I do not want to insult the intelligence of my fellow commentators and readers of The Intercept)
Both the ignorance to the reality of amoral inequality and the lack of compassion related to it show what a low state much of our society has been brought down to as a result of corporate serving propaganda and the resulting realm of selfish consumerism.
I’d prefer to view it that more or less half of the most right wing voters think that society is too unequal in the US. A large majority of both democrats and republicans agree with the statement. That kind of large scale potential support for anti-inequality legislation means the future looks bright.
We would love for you to be right about the future is bright.
However, when we consider gerrymandered state and federal legislatures, Citizen’s United on steroids, the absurdity of corporate personhood, TPP around the corner, a bought and paid for corporate media, banksters with enhanced confidence in the extortion game, foreign powers out and out buying our government through their lobby and campaign contributions and also being able to buy our media, an anti-trust set up that allows corporate mergers at the expense of all but a greedy few, a labor department that works more like an anti-labor Pinkerton force, and the fact that our youth due to student loan debt at $1.5 trillion are in a state of indentured servitude not seen since before the American Revolution forcing them to live at home with their parents until the banks and healthcare vampires take the parent’s home when they die, tend to make many of us skeptical.
Future “looks bright” ! Really ? Maybe for the lucky few who can afford to escape the USA, and emigrate to a better, and cheaper cost of living in an emerging country maybe? Perhaps it’s those people you are referring to ?
If you consider alone the massive threat of technological unemployment, which will wipe out over 20 percent of jobs in the next five years, is that a bright future ? Disruptive technologies including smart machines, self service website portals, artificial intelligence, driverless vehicles, robotics are already wiping out retail and service sector jobs. Robots are appearing in restaurants and hotels, and soon as processing power increases software bot virtual employee service agents will replace many back office and service sector jobs.
Whilst the corporations and company owners will hugely benefit from labour cost savings and improvements in productivity, efficiency and profitability. Many millions of employees will be out of a job, and facing an employment market with fewer jobs offering lower salaries as demand outstrips supply.
Have you taken this into consideration when you have looked at the future and pronounced it as bright, through your rose tinted glasses ? Or is it that Nojokes is really joking ?
As president, i would nationalize all life support industries that have 50%+ of the market. You build it, you profit, we inherit it. That’s how you build a good society. The greedsters who enter corporations to enrich themselves by feeding on the people will go to prison after they are stripped of their assets.
A good democracy has no room for the selfish and greedy. Persons who hold elected or appointed positions and who introduce laws to favor one group of any individual, or who propose laws contrary to the DOI or USC, will be stripped of their office and forbidden to hold any elected position or appointed position (govt) for life.
It can be real simple if you like and appreciate simple.
Oh, you mean like redistribution. They hate that word and their corporate owned media toadies know how to make it sound like an utterance from ignorant barbarians, just like they put in the minds of generation after generation that socialism is a contagious disease.
Our 95% of the market share banal rightwing talk radio hosts that have a captive car audience follow their script related to redistribution with the soundbite response “class warfare” rather than recognizing what it really is; taking back what has been stolen by the unjust that have purchased all three branches of our state and federal governments so they can write unjust laws that rob the masses of money, dignity and hope.
Thank GOD there’s still a journalist left who actually cares what we think. My guess is 95% of the candidates and 99.999% of the talking heads think that everything about our beliefs can be calculated from our race, our sex, our age, our home address and our income. To see someone come along and actually ask about issues – it’s like you’re violating some kind of law.
The candidates and talking heads use identity politics as a weapon to mislead, distract, manipulate, and divide the masses.
Misinformation is useful to those who seek to prevent challenges to the current (dis)order.
The establishment knows a lot about the public mind and is aided by the massive, vast, invasive surveillance apparatus. Our oppressors are able to effectively hoodwink us because the public lacks an understanding of propaganda and how it is used.
100 % agree with your comment.
Free trade ,like with Cambodia ? I like protectionism it’s way better for now I think.
spot on. The foreign policy people need to be fired so we can stop the bleeding and rebuild America. They will be out of a job like those whose jobs they killed. These foreign policy useless people need to realize how useless they really are. The day is here that America is not worth defending because there is nothing to defend but defense itself. And that is a real conjob and a fraud upon America.
I look forward to Donald saying to them “You’re Fired!”.
Me too.
The monsters won’t go down wo a fight among Americans.
Divide and conquer!
I’d guess a large percentage of Americans are very confused by the phrase ‘free trade agreement’, and would have a hard time explaining the details of the free trade agreements if asked. For example, if you asked the average American citizen if the free flow of capital across borders without any taxes or tariffs should be part of ‘free trade’ agreements, what would they say? What if you asked them why that provision is included in the agreements?
What it does allow, is for a corporation to move its factories from the United States to sweatshop nations without having to pay any tariff taxes when the goods produced in that factory are sold and imported into the U.S. This greatly facilitates the outsourcing of industry to other countries, since the corporate owners can pocket the huge difference in production costs with no penalty. It also creates vast unemployment across industrial zones of the United States, and massive wealth disparity, as the rich get richer off slave labor in other countries while middle-class Americans lose their jobs, homes, and future hopes.
Many economists have noted this, but they aren’t the ones consulted by the U.S. government, for example:
From:The Trans-Pacific Partnership Could Be Much Worse than the Over-Hyped Korea Deal, By Robert E. Scott, July 18, 2013
“For more than two decades, presidents of both parties have claimed that new trade deals would result in rising U.S. exports and new job creation. Bill Clinton (1993) and his supporters claimed in the early 1990s that the North American Free Trade Agreement would create 200,000 new jobs through increased exports to Mexico.7 In fact, by 2010, growing trade deficits with Mexico had eliminated 682,900 U.S. jobs, with job losses in every U.S. state and congressional district.”
NAFTA supporters (corporate Democrats and Republicans) claimed the deal would create jobs; instead they lost close to 700,000 jobs. Look at Detroit. Now the same groups pushing TPP are saying the same thing, and ignoring their past failures – all for Wall Street.
But, is there a way to structure trade deals such that they benefit the middle-class economic interests of both the United States and its trading partners? Yes, there is:
“At a minimum, all new FTAs should include labor and environmental standards that are enforceable in the core of the agreements. . .”
That would mean that companies that want to offshore their factories would have to maintain the same pollution controls and labor safety and fair compensation rules that they have here in the U.S.
Also, consider this: “Meanwhile, we should insist that the USITC develop trade and investment models that more accurately estimate the effects of FTAs on trade, FDI, employment, wages, and the distribution of income, and that they fairly consider the effects of FTAs on both exports and imports, and on the economy.”
To translate: the economists hired by the U.S. government to evaluate the effects of the trade deals on the economy use deliberately dishonest methods to get answers that the government wants.
http://www.epi.org/publication/trade-pacts-korus-trans-pacific-partnership/
Trade across large areas is very bad for the environment no matter how you structure agreements. This stuff is being moved by fossil fuels, whose engines also create massive amounts of unnatural noise.
Things should be made and sold locally, period. There could be some rare exceptions moved by sailing ships, but generally people need to learn to live what’s in their own areas and quit being such greedy destructive consumers.
Joseph Stiglitz on why the TPP is the worst trade deal ever:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/joseph-stiglitz-tpp-1.3515452
“55 percent of Sanders supporters” say that “free trade is good”? How clueless are these people? Do they know that Sanders strongly opposes crap like NAFTA, GATT, and the TPP? One can childishly think about how great trading with everyone else is, but in reality it means massive environmental and social harms. Massive oil consumption and burning, massive noise in the oceans to the point where whales can’t hear each other anymore, invasive species killing native species, loss of good jobs to the lowest-paying companies, the list is almost endless.
I support Sanders to a limited extent — he’s the only major party candidate I’d even consider voting for — but these supporters are dead wrong on this issue and might be totally ignorant about where their candidate stands on it.
The question is do civilians in the US understand that there is a ruling class, and that the ruling class has fueled terrorist groups, collaborated with and supported dictatorships, and has inflicted terrorism on humanity — all the while pretending to “fight terrorism”? Do civilians understand how the “War on Terror” is a Big Lie? Do they understand that the pseudo-scientific assertions about radicalization are lies meant to legitimize the US government’s violence and terrorism? Do they understand why the ruling class wants world war–and why it is the duty of all civilians and enlisted people to do whatever it takes to stop this violence by the US government?
The Sanders campaign knows that it has created an effective brand which will be useful in curtailing opposition to war. Just as Obama loyalists have been duped into believing that “their guy” couldn’t possibly be more extreme than Bush, and just as Obama loyalists repeatedly rationalize the murderous policies of the US government under Obama, so too will Sandernistas be easily manipulated.
You have a knack for painting lots of people with broad strokes.
Obama ran against Clinton. A guy with very little track record was still preferred over a carpetbagger with connections to some of the worst sellouts to the middle class and poor.
Sanders has a decades-long record of fighting for the people with no power. Unlike Obama who relied solely on his statements of opposition to the Iraq invasion, Sanders was actually in office and voted against it.
If you are so jaded that you don’t see the difference between the two, you are in pretty sad shape.
Sanders voted for the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.
He voted for the AUMF of 2001.
He’s on-record as calling for the dictatorships which collude with Empire to get their hands dirty — ie intensify their involvement in the US government’s quest to dominate the Middle East.
Do you not understand that politics is about the contesting of power?
The working class builds no power supporting the fake-Leftist Sanders.
Maybe it’s your mind that is in a pretty bad shape if you believe that you have anything other than an illusion /sham of democracy in the US. The reality that you need to get your head around is that your presidential candidates, and both of your political parties are controlled by the elite ruling classes, and they are all bought by the powerful corporations, and financial institutions -owned and controlled by the elite. The facts are that your Governments have continued to serve only the interests of the elite. They have continually and relentlessly followed an imperialist path and the powerful lobbying of the elites corporations set the policies and agenda. Ordinary people no longer count in the US, which has become entirely focused on corporatism, and poisoned with materialism, and greed.
The people of the US wanted change when they voted for Obama, and what did they get, more of the same – an extension of the Bush administrations war mongering policies. Many people also voted for Obama believing that he would deliver more equality, and improvements in their living standards, greater prosperity for working class, and middle class America – a fairer system for all. It soon became apparent that only the wealth of the super rich elite would massively increase under Obama’ s policies, and that this would be paid for by the erosion of the income of middle class America. Americans now face living in a country which has even less job security, higher costs of living, less disposable income, and the only job growth is in the low paid retail and services sector. Many American jobs have grone abroad, and most companies are now investing in South East Asia and emerging, countries with much more rapid growth than the US. The secretive trade pacts pushed through without public debate or scrutiny will only serve to cost more Americans their jobs. Americans live in what has become a militarized police state, with mass surveillance, and have seen a massive erosion of their privacy. Is voting really going to change any of this ?
If you believe that you do have democracy, and that voting can deliver the necessary changes then tell me why is not a single candidate opposing the militarization of America, and proposing an alternative ?
Why is American politics still dominated by just two political parties which are both controlled and heavily polluted and controlled by the elites money ? and as the two parties offer the only electable candidates how can voting for any of their candidates ring change?
You seem to present Bernie, as some sort of savior for the people, with his “long record of fighting for the people with no power” . However, Bernie is still a democrat, and how do the people know that Bernie will not just turn out to be another Obama, and that they can trust him?
How would Bernie return power to the people when the political system of America would remain the same, corrupted, and rotten to the core ?
Is it not a sad and shocking reflection of the state of American politics when so many Americans are so sick of the establishment’s candidates and the elite’s ownership of the Government that they are prepared to force change by voting for Trump, despite his extreme points of view ?
Trump has positioned himself as the only alternative for people demanding change, but will America change for the better under Trump or is he really just another candidate that will pander to, and serve solely the agenda of the elite if he is elected ?
The undeniable truth, is that the powerful, wealthy, greedy and selfish elite controls all the political parties and they will ensure that their money remains in politics to buy the policies which further best their own selfish aims. Their greed and selfishness will ensure that they continue to grow their already phenomenal wealth,no matter who you vote for.
It is the system that needs to change, and this is the reality. Americans no longer have any democracy – it’s an illusion, a sham. Wake up and smell the coffee !
America has now the best Government that money can buy, and it will remain that way no matter who you vote for.
The people are voting now and I have listened to Sanders speak over the years with Robert Scheer and others and he is a revolutionary person. He is obviously not calling for the “incremental” fascist changes led by Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The people are in the midst of an awakening in the United States. If Sanders wins Wisconsin and then New York and Clinton becomes more strident by reneging on her agreements made with the DNC to debate (and NOT on a night where there is a March Madness basketball playoff game!) Sanders will have the momentum to acquire the delegates he needs to surmount her lead MINUS THE SUPER DELEGATES.
If Clinton goes to the convention and can only win the nomination with the Super Delegates she and Debbie made rotten deals with over a year ago, especially if those Super Delegates are supporting Clinton in spite of the fact that their constituents supported Sanders then there SHOULD be hell to pay:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/
Under these circumstances if Sanders loses due to a rigged Democrat Party and he still endorses Clinton that will be a knife into the heart of the revolution he is, at the moment, leading.
In my opinion, even if Sanders continues to lose states to Clinton and she wins the nomination WITHOUT the Super Delegates, Sanders should STILL not endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton. He knows she is a pathological lying war criminal. He knows she scoffs at his “revolution”.
I believe that if Sanders is not the Democrat nominee by either measure he should NOT endorse Clinton and he should file papers to run in all 50 states as an Independent to keep the revolution alive. He has enough money and supporters to gather the necessary signatures in all the states.
Trump is already making noises about running as an Independent if he is not “treated fairly” by the RNC.
We could well end up with a four way race in November with Sanders/Trump/Clinton and Cruz (or Kasich or Ryan?).
In a four way race where all the candidates would easily poll above the necessary 15% polling threshold demanded by the presidential debate commission all four candidates would be in the four or five presidential debates in the fall.
If this were to happen Bernie Sanders would easily win because his message of “change” is the real deal. Clinton hopefully will either be indicted for being the criminal she is OR she will have that ugly shroud of dishonesty and untrustworthiness and elitist entitlement hanging over her every word. She is roundly hated by a majority of the American people.
Trump will be rejected for being an elitist bonehead. Which will leave the poor Republican schlub who got nominated in a convention where total chaotic war broke out between the “establishment stop Trump movement” and all the new delegates who were elected to represent their maverick brand of wingnuttery. God only knows who the Republican “standard bearer” will end up being. Cruz has his D.C. Madam black book problem pending and Kasich will not be in the running because of rule 40-B (the Ron Paul rule that returned to bite them all in the ass). It could be Romney or Ryan? Whoever becomes the Republican nominee will lose in a general election to Sanders according to all the national polling that has been done.
So, the bottom line for this voter is that I agree we live in a plutocracy now but I believe that Bernie Sanders might be the American people’s last, best hope to give a giant middle finger salute to the police state, to corporate America, to the corporate rip-off known as “Obamacare”, to all our imperialistic wars of aggression, to the corporate TPP which was negotiated in SECRET (duh) and to the general two-tier system of justice we are all now living under.
Under a President Sanders the “too big to fail” banks would be broken up and the Glass-Steagal Act would be resurrected and more.
The way all of this can and will happen is that after Sanders is elected his supporters will have to continue to pressure their representatives on a DAILY basis with phone calls, faxes, emails and VISITS to their offices both in D.C. and locally.
We will need Citizen Lobbyists in D.C. in ALL the Congress members offices on a DAILY basis pushing for the reforms Sanders supports. And if they refuse to vote the way we tell them to they will be primaried out the next election.
The time is now for the American people to get very serious about what we have lost through decades of blind trust. Now is the time to fight to get what we feel we deserve and need as citizens.
Sanders and his campaign have a big decision coming up around the time of the convention. If he wins the nomination we are golden. If he loses and endorses Clinton and refuses to run as an Independent the “revolution” will die.
Pretty gnarly times here, eh?
Sanders just reiterated to the NYDN that Hamas and Hezbollah are terror orgs.What a homer.
He is still captured by Zionist BS.
Candidates lie to get elected. Polls like this only reflect the degree to which political ideologues a prone to gullibility. Presidents do what they are told (advised to do is the phrase most often used) to do. Compare that which Obama promised to that which he adopted from the Bush administration. The continuity of America’s post WWII foreign policy has resulted in it being the sole super-power in the world. Success only breeds more of the same. Why build a better mousetrap when the mice are already eating poisoned fruit from your hand?
recommended:
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/obama-and-the-left-such-as-it-is-by-paul-street/
Absolutely brilliant!!! Thanks for the recommendation, Vivek Jain:
Obama and the Left, Such As it Is*
By Paul Street
Remarks at “The Left and Obama” Panel
February 28, 2009
UNITE-HERE Headquarters
Chicago, IL
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/obama-and-the-left-such-as-it-is-by-paul-street/
Speaking of “mice” did you ever see “The Story of Mouseland”?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqgOvzUeiAA
I was disappointed with this article so I’m glad it wasn’t very long.
The main question in the poll about foreign policy doesn’t have anything to do with American’s skepticism about war.
“U.S. global involvement makes things worse,”
This has nothing to do with war. US global involvement can mean a wide range of things. The question is so broad I question whether or not the answers can allow anyone to draw any good conclusions.
What is the definition of global involvement? What is the definition of worse? And for whom does it make things worse? Some people may have felt that US global involvement as of late has made things worse, yet believe that the US must be involved in some way in order to keep the world at peace.
Does participating in the UN constitute global involvement?
That question was probably the least informative question in the poll and to be honest this might be one of the most misleading titles on an Intercept article that I’ve read so far.
Makes you feel like you’re on Salon.com…
Ditto.
“That question was probably the least informative question in the poll and to be honest this might be one of the most misleading titles on an Intercept article that I’ve read so far.”
I agree.
Very important info. Thanks much.
SANDERS, Trump & clinton support social security which is a real time life support recirculation system which is like the circulatory system in the body.
SANDERS objects to the fraud of sellings ones future for an education which renders persons into indentured servitude. It’s wrong for human beings.
TRUMP proposes getting paid for what we do, tariffs on imported goods to bring back jobs, and preventing 250,000,000 people in poverty south of our border from crashing the border and bringing chaos and crime to the u.s.
cruz is a genocidal leaning terrorist.
hillary is married to wallstreet which runs the print-to-loan screw america and keep mainstreet chasing the price rabbit for the loan con.
kasich is bart simpson’s dad saying “gee, i could be president?”.
When America FIRES WALLSTREET then America can install a new economy that recognizes that the real right to life is THE RIGHT TO LIVE.
Economic system favors powerful interests:
Clinton: 73
Sanders: 91 (High)
Trump: 61
Cruz: 45 (Low)
Kasich: 51
Abortion should be legal in all/most cases:
Clinton: 72
Sanders: 78 (High)
Trump: 45
Cruz: 23 (Low)
Kasich: 49
Govt’s responsibility to ensure all have health care:
Clinton: 82 (High)
Sanders: 77
Trump: 14
Cruz: 11 (Low)
Kasich: 22
Republican and Republican-leaning voters (35%) continue to be more likely than Democrats and Democratic leaners (10%) to express anger at government. Within the GOP, anger at government is heavily concentrated among Trump supporters – 50% say they are angry at government, compared with 30% of Cruz backers and just 18% of those who support Kasich.
Overall, 57% of all registered voters say that immigrants in the United States today strengthen the country because of their hard work and talents, while 35% say they are a burden because they take jobs, housing and health care. Republican and Republican-leaning voters are more than three times more likely than Democrats and Democratic leaners to view immigrants as a burden (56% vs. 17%).
Among those who support Trump for the GOP nomination, 69% say immigrants are a burden, compared with 51% of Cruz supporters and 40% of Kasich supporters. Fewer than one-in-five Clinton (17%) and Sanders supporters (14%) consider immigrants a burden on the country.
http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/campaign-exposes-fissures-over-issues-values-and-how-life-has-changed-in-the-u-s/
Thus far, the 2016 presidential campaign has attracted very high levels of interest – fully 85% of registered voters say they have given “quite a lot” of thought to the election. That is higher than the shares of voters who said they had given a great deal of thought to the election at this point in 2012 (66%) and 2008 (78%).
Yet the primary process gets relatively low marks from voters in both parties, with the notable exception of Trump supporters. Just 35% of registered voters – including 42% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats – view the primary system as a good way of determining the best-qualified nominees. Among Trump supporters, however, 60% have a positive view of the primary process, compared with no more than about 40% of the supporters of any other candidate.
There also is general agreement among the supporters of the remaining candidates – again, with the exception of Trump backers – that the billionaire has received too much press coverage. Overall, 75% of voters say news organizations have given too much coverage to Trump. No more than about four-in-ten say that about any of the other candidates (41% say Clinton has gotten too much coverage).
… About twice as many view the Democratic Party as tolerant and open than describe the GOP this way (65% vs. 32%). More also say the Democratic Party cares about the middle class (61%) and has good policy ideas (53%) than say this about the Republican Party (43% and 45%, respectively).
http://www.people-press.org/2016/03/31/campaign-exposes-fissures-over-issues-values-and-how-life-has-changed-in-the-u-s/
Illegal immigrants is the issue,not immigrants.
Typical misinfo,or a mistake?
Illegal immigrants add nothing but a burden to the taxpayer,and working America.Now lawyers,journalists and college professors might disagree,but they don’t have skin in the game,like we American workers do.
A 50 billion dollar trade deficit with freakin Mexico?The decline of America into a consumer hellhole,as the consumers are broke.But hey,you can get anything with debt,at 30 % interest.What a colossal cluster f*ck from neolibcon Zionists,and their traitors in govt.
Go Trump!
“An overwhelming 91 percent of Sanders supporters think the “economic system favors powerful interests”; on the other end of the scale, just 45 percent of Cruz supporters believe the same.”
It would be unbelievable if the media was not completely owned and controlled by a corporatocracy that with the current US and International state of inequality 45% of any group could deny “economic system favors powerful interests”, (I will not bother to list the inequality numbers as I do not want to insult the intelligence of my fellow commentators and readers of The Intercept)
Both the ignorance to the reality of amoral inequality and the lack of compassion related to it show what a low state much of our society has been brought down to as a result of corporate serving propaganda and the resulting realm of selfish consumerism.
The 73 % of Clinton voters re elite economic power is a sign of self delusion.What else is the hell bitch but about powerful economic interests?
Was that put to southern black voters only?
absolutely. Hillary wins the southern states in the primary and would lose them in the main. SANDERS loses the southern states in the main and wins the northern states in main. Same with Trump.
The main should be Sanders and Trump. But the party pimps – aka the establishment which includes wallstreet and the hoe media – will sabotage the will of americans (and promote war) and offer up a bowl of party nuts to force-feed Americans. Where are we, Guantanamo?
Yes,totally agree.They think we are powerless.Hopefully in November,we will be able to say f*ck you you scum.
It’s ALL about Zion uber alles.
They just fined Le Pen(father)thousands of Euros for not genuflecting to their total BS.What a world,where .001% of humanity calls the shots on death and war.
The hero medic executioner!What a joke.
Given her support from the Democrat establishment and the collapse of establishment support for Republican party candidates, it is highly likely that Hillary Clinton will be elected President.
The question I have is:
How long will it be before she entangles the US in military conflicts with Russia, North Korea, Syria, Iran, or some other state or organization in other regions of the world?
She has already done it, even before actually ascending to the throne. She and her acolytes in State gave us NATO and Nazis in Ukraine, and ISIS in Libya and Syria, both of which actively involve Russia. I’m sure one can find her machinations regarding war with China, if one looks a bit.
This is one of the most overlooked things about Trump, and its his own fault: he is, arguably, to the left of Hillary on imperialist wars and military adventures.
His fault is he is a nationalist in a nation of international global trade scum who control the MSM which feed all the knuckleheads divide and conquer propaganda that kills their brain cells,as they flail at windmills of irrelevant BS put out by said media.
If one can’t see the hatred for Trump for trying to put America back in charge of its affairs instead of Zion,they are losers beyond measure,aka Zionists.
lol. Every time America starts a war we lose lives, money, and everything else. If being to the left of Hillary in that respect is a fault, bring on the quake.
“Only 25 percent of Cruz voters and 28 percent of Clinton voters say “U.S. global involvement makes things worse,” while 38 percent of Trump supporters and 45 percent of Sanders supporters take the same view.”
Was there something else you meant to quote for your title?
Because U.S global involvement does not automatically and only mean war.
“U.S global involvement does not automatically and only mean war.”
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
but it always leads to war.
Your extended spelling of right and opinion of what US global involvement leads to does not change the fact that the poll does not ask or conclude what Zaid’s title said it did.
The meaning of U.S global involvement is open to interpretation, war is not.
oh yes and also dictatorship, exploitation, misery, torture, starvation, plagues of locusts and frogs, offal falling from the skies, etc. etc.
what?
Show US any improvement anywhere America has gone to war since 1950?
Show US an improvement diplomatically anywhere lasting since 1950?
Every thing we touch turns to sh*t.
Trump supporters tend to be good businessmen and understand instinctively that running a global empire should be a tremendously profitable enterprise. Instead, they are being taxed to pay for the empire, making their own situation much worse.
It’s fine to offer a free service to capture market share, but once you have a monopoly, squeeze it for all it’s worth. The US is now the world’s only hyperpower, and yet it’s not fully leveraging that advantage. Congress should pass a law that all the world’s natural resources are US property. Some argue this would create a united opposition and the US should first claim the Middle East’s natural resources. But bolder is better. The US could at first charge a very modest royalty to countries extracting natural resources. Weighing the options, this countries would most likely choose cooperation.
I am pleased to see that Mr. Sanders’ supporters agree. Once he drops out of the race, I think Trump would do well to offer free university tuition to all Americans – and make the rest of the world pay for it. A large proportion of Mr. Sanders supporters are university age – and they would quickly back Mr. Trump’s plan.
Splendid analysis of a potential reality.
The illsionary upside to economic bliss is of course 100% employment which allows everyone on the planet to pay there bills provided by the wallstreet Owner’s Club. The working people will feel all good about this for a while until they realize they have been conned into a billet system which really rips into the opportunities for getting ahead of others by pushing them behind. Then they will realize that the chaos of made-in-wallstreet wars and unemployment was the real engine of opportunity.
How humans inherited this version of opportunity was a mystery to me until one day a scholarly scholar told me about “crabs in a barrel”.