IF YOU’RE RELYING on the public health care system, you’re living your life under surveillance, says Khiara Bridges, a law professor and anthropology researcher at the Boston University School of Law.
All sorts of incredibly invasive details about your life, including sexual experience, eating habits, and job history, are stored in databases that are accessible not only to your caregivers, but potentially to law enforcement, too, she says.
Bridges will be discussing her research on the routine and invasive monitoring of women who require certain public health care assistance on Friday at a Georgetown Law School conference titled “The Color of Surveillance: Government Monitoring of the Black Community.”
Her first book, Reproducing Race, featured four women at a New York City public hospital whom she followed from May 2006 to September 2007. These women were enrolled in the Prenatal Care Assistance Program, which serves uninsured and underinsured women, including undocumented immigrant women.
The women start by going through what she calls “information canvassing” in order to enroll — answering questions on topics “from sexual abuse, to intimate partner violence, to how often they ate, what they ate, how they make their money, how their partner makes their money.”
They are then required by law to speak with nurses, health educators, HIV counselors, social workers, financial officers, and others.
“Their lives are just so open to observation and regulation,” Bridges says in a phone interview.
These “case management services” are officially there to provide help in “gaining access to needed medical, social, educational, and other services.”
But Bridges argues that the questions sometimes stray into the unnecessary, invasive, and non-medical territory. She calls it “a gross and substantial intrusion by the government into poor, pregnant women’s private lives.”
Bridges says she is publishing a new book next spring called The Poverty of Privacy Rights — zooming in on just how little privacy the underprivileged have under systems like Medicaid. She’s explored the topic in several law review articles, including one at Harvard titled “Privacy Rights and Public Families.”
Those who can afford private health care get to pick what they say to whom, Bridges says. “They don’t have to talk about the past if they don’t want,” she explains. They can protect their privacy through their wealth.
Bridges is particularly concerned about exceptions in the law that allow for incredibly personal information to be shared with law enforcement. As she writes in a section of her forthcoming book:
Crucially, the Privacy Act contains exceptions that allow for the nonconsensual disclosure of collected information. Intriguingly, one of those exceptions “allows disclosure to other jurisdictions for law enforcement.” The result of this exception is that when a population is imagined to be inclined toward criminality, then that population exists in a state of exception under the Privacy Act: Its information can be disclosed as long as it is for law enforcement purposes. …
… Undeniably, welfare beneficiaries are one of those populations that are thought to be comprised of criminal elements. The irony should be apparent: The act that provides protection from the disclosure of information, and thereby saves the constitutionality of information-collecting regimes, itself provides for disclosure.
Other researchers and groups, such as the Stop LAPD Spying Coalition, are concerned about the surveillance of people who enroll in Electronic Benefit Transfer programs to buy groceries, or take advantage of other public benefits.
The monitoring of people who need public assistance has long been an issue with feminist thinkers and other legal scholars.
Maria Cristina Rangel, a feminist activist and mother who relied on the public benefits system, wrote in a 2001 book:
The whole system is based on the assumption that you are trying to screw [welfare officials] over. There are constant check-ins and impossibly long lists of “verifications” to submit to the state in order to back your story; inquisitions involving a battery of questions asked by countless supervisors behind closed doors when it appears that your story does not add up … [and] if you don’t comply … your benefits can be cut.
Bridges remains focused on everyday public health care monitoring. And, she says, “The least scrutinized program is Medicaid.”
“Can you imagine trying to take care of a family on $7.25 an hour? ”
*Thousands of millions* of people all over the world earn less thant that. And yet ‘poor’ fat, greedy americans are whining. They are just as greedy and despicable as their corporate masters. Not to mention, the “liberals” who pretend to care about the “poor” are themsleves rich and corrupt and bastards.
“They are just as greedy and despicable as their corporate masters.”
Weren’t you just posting here a minute ago as X? Never mind, maybe there really are 2 idiots peddling this utter sewage on this site.
Yahoo News Comments beckons, you’ll make friends there you shithead
“feminist thinkers ”
Hahaha. That makes as much sense as “honest politician” or “innocent cop”
nothing is free – wait, I meant to say – free is nothing
The USA has been doing this time immemorial. In the 7 the FBI checked library loans to establish intent. Where is the social contract headed? https://jackblueblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/the-new-social-contract/
Wow, great piece! The entire Welfare Reform Act of 1996 is bullshit. I believe it is the authority allowing that of which this piece is shining light on. Everybody in government and the Clintons claimed the legislation was going to end welfare fraud and make people earn their own way after a maximum of 5 years on welfare. Pre 1996 welfare gave out cash under the AFDC program and others with no restrictions on time to be receiving the cash. There was no incentive for welfare recipients to work, according to congress and the White House. Welfare fraud and welfare dependency was running rampant. Stories of multiple generations on welfare.
Well guess what? The number of welfare recipients by percentage relative to total population hasn’t changed since the 1960’s. What happened to all of those people who were free loading? What happened to the multigenerational welfare families when their welfare was cutoff? The numbers didnt reflect that reality. Actually the numbers didn’t reflect any part of the reality the government claimed to pass that legislation.
The reality is and was prior to Welfare Reform most if not all welfare recipients stopped receiving welfare as a result of income. People worked to support themselves and their families when the opportunity was available.
Another lie to the American people is the numbers of families on welfare as a result of fatherless households was going to reach epidemic numbers if not addressed. Complete horseshit! Fathers were and are taking care of their part. Close to 80% of child support cases are cases that the family never received public assistance. What’s the purpose of the government harassing fathers for child support? If they were making more money child support wouldn’t be an issue. Dept. of Child support does nothing more than make life miserable on the poor.
It is, of course, unfair to single out particular groups for surveillance. But the US government is working hard to institute a comprehensive mass surveillance system. This article didn’t given them enough credit.
The Internet of Things will be the culmination of this effort. Your devices will spy on you. twenty four hours a day, so intrusive questions will be eliminated. You might be asked how many beers you drank last week, but it’s not intrusive because your fridge has already told them. They just need to add ‘liar’ to your file. But they’re not going to conduct an inquisition that lasts for hours at time, since the fields in their database have already been filled in by the automated surveillance systems.
In the past, mistakes were made. But the future is going to be so much better.
You do know that the Xbox One already does this. Monitors 24/7, video, heart rate, pupil dilation and more. And we know the NSA has MS encryption keys
It’s interesting – and chillinging – to read this article after reading “War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America’s Campaign to Create a Master Race” by investigative journalist Edwin Black. One does not necessarily share his views on the Middle East, but his research on the forgotten chapter of American eugenics – like tens of thousands of forced sterilizations legalized by the US supreme court that greatly inspired Hitler – is excellent. Black diagnoses “collective amnesia” in regard to that ugly chapter of American history which slightly contradicts the official tale of the great generation. It’s noteworthy that eugenicists considered – and continue to consider – poverty as genetic trait. Not the wealth gap, according to this theory, is the problem but the genetic inferiority of “the poor” is the problem. Another chilling aspect is that information technology played a key role in carrying out Nazi eugenics, namely the Holocaust (as Jews were neither the first nor the only group targeted for elimination). In other words, of “IBM and the Holocaust.” another important book by Black. Unfortunately, like War against the Weak it’s written in a rather sensationalist style, but the research itself is painstakingly reliable.
If that chills you, look into the very recent history of forced sterilization in Canada and Australia. Canada only banned it in 1972 and Australia STILL does it. Make no mistake, those in power want to kill “defectives” like me. Poverty or a mental illness is still seen as a crime to a large and powerful global elite. Remember, the people who orchestrated these crimes against humanity are still among us, and they’re unlikely to be charged with any sort of crime. They’re protected in ways that we can only dream of.
“sterilizations in some American states did not stop. Some states continued to sterilize residents into the 1970s.”
https://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/
Thanks for your replies. I didn’t know that about Australia.
I knew, however, that US aid is into forced sterilizations, i.e. in India. It’s unbelievable: “Across the country, there have been numerous reports of deaths and of pregnant women suffering miscarriages after being selected for sterilisation without being warned that they would lose their unborn babies. Yet a working paper published by the UK’s Department for International Development in 2010 cited the need to fight climate change as one of the key reasons for pressing ahead with such programmes.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/15/uk-aid-forced-sterilisation-india
I haven’t heard of Americans or Europeans being forcibly sterilized “to fight climate change” though.
This article made me shiver. Our state’s home visiting program was finessing the implementation of a data base of information that was saved and then cross connected to other state data bases. The information was similar to this but not as detailed. Even then, as a home visitor, I used to leave meetings scratching my head as to the necessity of some of the information they were gathering. They claimed it was for research purposes, in order to improve services. Right.
There is not anywhere near the fraud people would expect related to welfare. If you take some time and look at the numbers and compare them to the amoral corporate welfare system you will be astonished.
For the most part people on welfare just are having a hard time for a while. What is different now is that people are finding themselves on public assistance that never imagined they would ever be in that position. As hard as that is on many, it has actually created far more awareness and empathy in our society. What does not kill you makes you stronger and wiser.
Can you imagine trying to take care of a family on $7.25 an hour? The right wing talk radio lunatics will try and say these are just entry level positions, but they lie, because they are not as the real people behind the real statistics relating to who collects that paltry of a wage is heartbreaking.
All the suffering that has come from decades of taking from the masses to put all the power and wealth in the hands of those most selfish and greedy maybe coming to the end as the barbarians will gather at the gates again, but now we know the true barbarians are the ones on the inside starving the masses
@Fellow Citizen –
What an excellent, excellent comment. You have it right; we don’t really look at WHO’S really causing the problems. We forget to have any empathy for those who really need some sort of break, a way to get back to accessing their right to rise.
You or someone may find this of interest:
http://observergal.blogspot.com/2016/04/is-unity-really-so-scary.html
It is so hard and scary to unify because as Americans we are fruit begotten from a propaganda tree.
We are taught not to cry, stand alone and strong, ride alone in your expensive car that measures your worth and character, and delivers you as a captive to right wing lunatic talk radio hosts and their banal utterings. We are conditioned to look under our covers for a Muslim, and to fight Army strong, John Wayne strong, and “Scorch the Earth” Sherman strong. We are taught to look down upon our peers and deliver through the ploy of meritocracy everything to our masters, and to worship sports figures of today as were the gladiators of yester year, and to worship at the altar of consumerism so we can deliver the little of what we have into the hands of our oppressors.
And we are further pushed apart and polarized by what should be the most significant influence towards bringing us together that being religion. Religious leaders spend the majority of their time focusing on our differences breeding resentment, misunderstanding and ignorance. The beauty of what is in the spiritual books is merely skimmed over. Religious leaders fail to point out the obvious in that each sacred book is written by men of that religion for those of their religion and ultimately placing their religion and beliefs above all others, even though they all somewhere in their pages admit to not possessing all the answers.
@Fellow Citizen –
You really have said some VERY cogent things there. I don’t think I can address them all, but I’ll just “amplify” a few points.
1) “We are taught not to cry, stand alone and strong…” Yes, we do seem to be soooo much into that rugged individualism. And while there is a place for being individualistic, by NOT connecting to others, we lose so much in community and cohesiveness. Further, we’ve starved or attempted to starve all the “commons” that might being people together – parks are often now being privatized; malls, which are the new “town square” are increasingly asserting private rights. You mentioned cars — well there definitely was a movement to get folks into cars and out of public transport… it was even mentioned on “Mysteries at the Museum.”
2) You mentioned fear and hate mongering. Yup, the old “divide and conquer.” And we STILL fall for it.
3) You mentioned celebrity worship – including sports stars. You got it right. Nothing like a good celebrity scandal to take the sheeple’s minds off real issues. As far as sports, I’m not anti-sports, but one problem I see is that so many kids get sucked into sports(particularly, but it can happen with trying to be an entertainer, too…) as a way to get to the pros and get it made. But the chances of a pro career or making a good living, let alone making it big in entertainment are really pretty slim. Meanwhile, where are some mentors to offer some alternatives?
4) You also mentioned consumerism. Oh yes, over-materialism is a real problem. And what really gets me is WHY anyone would want to buy the latest intrusive gadget that collects data on him or her and does tracking?
5) As far a religion, what more can I say than what we ALL should be doing is following the Golden Rule. Which is a tradition in many, many faiths.
Well, I hope you do get to see this. I also appreciated you getting out some of the real data re: social safety net.
Thank you for your insights and I’m not anti-sports either as one of my most cherished memories is rising in applause with my grandfather to a grand slam at Connie Mack Stadium.
Years ago I was at a convention where Ben Carson was speaking and he made the same point you did about the chances of a pro career and making a good living. Not too long ago they canceled seven news shows in one season and replaced them with seven sports talk venues. Perhaps they felt that there was a chance that those watered down corporate media news shows might mistakenly slip and cover something that would stimulate meaningful thought.
The concept of a nuclear family was pushed after WW2 to create a very portable unit of human beings. The father worked in a factory and the mother and children stayed home. The extended family was destroyed and the nuclear family was left on its own. Grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins are important to the development of all of us. It is the strongest support network we have.
People were purposely isolated. Our “transit” system re-enforces this. You sit in your car alone. With a mass transit system you are with other people. You might even talk to them. With the one car – one person system you are supporting the oligarchy with the purchase of a car and the needed fuel. And supporting the political system by not being involved with other humans. We have limited contact with people not like us and believe the propaganda handed to us on a corruption filled platter. And every mile of road laid down on the surface of the earth is an act of violence. And, yes, I am part of this horrid, thoughtless way of life.
Now that the factories have all been moved to countries were the human beings don’t need to be paid as much, the nuclear family is being buried in poverty. And the powerful are after the fuel of the land called the United States of America.
Yes, and beautifully written. There was another way to systematically have us collectively better serve our corporate masters that used their corporate purchased media to pull a major con on the masses, which drastically cut wages and decimated family life.
It was called “Women’s Lib” and it put almost twice as many people in the work force plummeting wages due to competition for jobs. There is a big difference between a women wanting both a career and a family, and her having to have a career to support her family either because the one paycheck won’t cut it anymore, or because her husband is enslaved in a prison for profit system.
Families suffer while corporate profits soar.
@Mary N Mac and @Fellow Citizen
Hi Mary – you are reinforcing a lot of the points we’ve been talking about, especially the isolation via transport. Haven’t much thought about nuclear vs. extended family. It seems as though there are lots of things, lots of economics, especially tearing apart extended families. We’re more mobile now, people move here and there for jobs and often that breaks up that tight contact. Other things, too. I know that I have LOTS of cousins on my Mom’s side. Once we were really close knit, lots of letters and calls (pre-Internet). Then as we cousins aged, went to college, got jobs, things got looser. Then when one of my cousins unexpectedly passed away things really unraveled a bit. She was really a lnchpin keeping the family together with gatherings and what not. Now we’re trying to keep things tied together somewhat; one of her daughters is trying to organize some things.
Now Fellow Citizen, let’s not start blaming Women’s Lib. I’m a real feminist and want to see equality.
But I DO totally agree with your last line: “Families suffer while corporate profits soar.” Less than living wages, outsourcing of jobs, cutbacks on humans doing jobs (try to get a human through one of those automated phone systems) are coming into play.
My answer for that is HIRE PEOPLE! Does it make sense anyone else that if more people had jobs, living wage jobs particularly, that they could actually sustain themselves better, even start buying more goods and services and the economy might actually benefit in the long run?
I wrote “There is a big difference between a woman wanting both a career and a family, and her having to have a career to support her family either because the one paycheck won’t cut it anymore…”. And that is not meant to put down women that want to work or whatever.
My intent was to show how corporations via their corporate controlled media helping to promote it does benefit them the company as the more women they get working for them at usually than lower than male counterpart wages, plus due to basic supply and demand factors of an increased job pool drives down wages. It is just basic economics; add to that outsourcing, Right to Work Laws that mean right to work on the employer’s terms only, the systematic destruction of our unions, and whatever else they are working on to screw the masses and labor that I am missing is not due to happenstance they are systematically making it happen. If you have not had a chance you may enjoy reading the Powell Memo as I know you will be able to see through the BS part of it.
@Fellow Citizen –
Thanks for the clarification. Unfortunately you’re right that women don’t have pay equity. As far as “right to work” – I’m with you on that. There has been so much to decimate unions and studies have shown that where unions are strong, all wages seem to be better (disclaimer: I come from a ‘union’ background) . My late Mom and I, both educators, were members of NEA/NJEA/locals. BTW, my Mom’s college friend was one-time Pres. of NJEA. She gave one of THE best speeches on education, EVER. I was young then, but I remember vaguely. The title was “The Decisive Teacher.” Her theme was that as a classroom teacher, he or she is THE expert and should be the on taking the educational lead.
entry level means no previous employment or training or experience required.
However given that the business is national or global with a large market share and are a significant part of the economy or lifestyle, it would be good if the employees participated in profit sharing. Profit sharing is a real motivator. And it protects the employer from artificially inflated wages. A guaranteed minimum + profit share is the best formula for success IMO. So why is it that most businesses don’t do this? What are they afraid of? Because if the object of owning a business, barring greed, is to serve the community, how is paying people as little as possible a service? A good business person should want to employees as much as possible.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics found that of workers making a minimum wage 20 percent are in their late 20s or early 30s, and about 30 percent of people making the minimum wage are 35 and older.
This is a far cry from the kid stopping by after high school for a couple of hours of work to earn comic book money. These are people that have bills and kids that are often forced to work two and three no benefit jobs.
Another problem is these greedy selfish employers largely do not want employees to be working for anyone else so they release their weekly hour’s last minute making it nearly impossible to coordinate with a second job.
The irony of all this is the employers cry to each other when they meet at their cozy Lewis Powell Chamber of Commerce meetings about how hard it is to find good help.
whoa! 20% + 30% = 50%.
yup. That style of economy does not qualify for entry level pay.
When the DOI and USC were written and signed, there was little concern for a guaranteed right to live because there was sufficient means to make that happen in America.
Unions provide the balance of power for LIFE SUPPORT.
thanks for your post, very informative!
“i do not want to be wealthy. i do not want to be forced to wishing or wanting to be wealthy. i do not worship wealth. Worshipping being middle class is humble and modest.” barabbas
Excellent. I can only speak with authority about the fraud associated with the SS disability program. Unfortunately, SSA has allowed the corrupt Administrative Law Judges and attorney representatives to hijack the program. Seeing as attorneys can rack in over $5000 for a favorable decision in a Social Security claim, they have found they can afford to pay off judges while retaining a hefty profit. Citizens want to blame the claimants, but the real blame lies with those I pointed out. In spite of senate hearings about this fraud, I haven’t seen any remedy.
With all due respect focus on what greedy lawyers do relating to the cases you mentioned are small in scope and obfuscates the greater amoral reality.
The average American taxpayer making $50,000 per year paid just $36 towards the food stamps program.
And when it comes to funding the rest of America’s social safety net programs, the average American taxpayer making $50,000 a year pays just over six dollars a year.
The average American family pays a staggering $6,000 a year in subsidies to Republican-friendly big business.
Finally, of the $6,000 in corporate subsidies that the average American family pays each year, $1,231 of it goes to making up for revenue losses from corporate tax havens.
I sadly believe even the horrid numbers I have present here are understated relating to corporate welfare.
See; 5 November 2013 15:07
By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann Program | Op-Ed
I’m not sure what you think we disagree about. I consider the judges and attorneys to be part of corporate welfare.
You’re dealing with fraud at the macro level, but I’m only referring to it at the micro level, i.e., the disability program.
I wrote “With all due respect” and I was sincere. My mention of obfuscation was due to the fact that I am sensitive to when the attorneys involved in cases and their related fees become the focus it has been used in the past to blur if not destroy the worth of fighting for a valid cause.
What I had in mind was when as the result of trying to accomplish one of the Powell Memos top goals that being to destroy Ralph Nader things were done such as sending a prostitute to entice him where he shopped for groceries, and they tried to lay a smear on him as him being nothing more than a trial attorney’s servant, rather than what he was and continues to be a true servant of the people.
In one of the most egregious examples to date, a Kentucky disability attorney collaborated with a Huntington, West Virginia Administrative Law Judge, doctors and psychologists. The attorney was paid several million dollars by SSA over a short time span, somehow escaping the scrutiny of the SSA IG office. If it was not for the brave testimony of two female SSA employees, the fraud may still be happening. At least one of the whistleblowers was followed by a private eye hired by her boss in an attempt to silence her. I dealt with these slimeballs on a daily basis for 27 years, by phone while I was an adjudicator and face to face while I was a Hearings Officer. The ones that have been exposed are only the tip of the iceberg, IMO.
Well after 27 years of that I hope you are happily retired.
I don’t miss the paperwork, but do miss getting out from behind my desk for one week per month to meet the claimants for face to face hearings in SS offices around the state. In contrast to the sleazy attorneys I had to endure, I do miss the two that I met that represented SSI claimants for free, as they worked for Land of Lincoln Legal Assistance Foundation. Both of them gave up very lucrative careers and salaries to work for LAF for $24,000 a year. I have represented a few folks since I retired, but never took a dime, as I have a conscience.
I call BS. If your salary is $50,000, you will see that reduced by $3,825 just because of Medicare and Social Security taxes AND your employer is forced to pay an equivalent amount of tax. Thus, your $50,000 per year salary means $7,650 going into social programs.
The income tax on $50k per year with no other income and using the standard deduction is $5,700. The federal government spends $381 billion (10% of the budget) on Medicaid, so there’s another $570 that the average American gets taxed to fund “social safety net” programs.
How do you figure that the average family is paying $6,000 per year to evil Republican “big business” when their total federal taxes(excluding Medicare/SS) are less than $6,000?
First of all, Social Security deductions are not taxes as it is a program funded out of the individual’s money set aside for retirement. Social Security funds only became part of the budget when Republican leadership was able to pull off the ploy to put it in the budget to fund tax cuts for the rich, and all kinds of other give it to the rich and stick it to the people spending.
You are assuming that the $50,000 is all income that an employer has to contribute toward medical benefits, but I do not assume that as I live in the real world where employers have moved to part time jobs with no benefits, or 1099 arrangements to get around all benefits and even Social Security contributions.
You asked how do you figure that the average family is paying $6,000 per year. I figure it simply because if our government is sticking $6,000 of the US treasuries money “the peoples money” in the pockets of those politically connected corporate extortionists, that money could have been the peoples to spend on things like education, roads, bridges, tax rebates on real estate taxes, etc.
The amount of money we are haggling over here is really insignificant and would make the real thieves thrilled that this is our only focus as the budget has so many black holes open to far greater extortion.
Here is an example:
On September 10, 2001 Rumsfeld stated: “According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.” According to a report by the Inspector General, the Pentagon cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends. Such a disclosure normally might have sparked a huge scandal. However, the commencement of the attack on New York City and Washington would assure that the story remained buried.
One last point as I do not want to make this a total evil Republican thing as the whole political process with all three branches of our state and local governments being corrupted beyond any sense of reason has as much to do with the Democrats being just the other side of one big corporate coin.
The wealthy, in order to keep from being targeted for the thieves they can be, especially the wallstreet banksters, have to identify “the problem”. Obviously they – like louis and antoinette – would prefer to keep the spotlight on the people they rob. In this case, not only do louis and antoinette get to put the blame on their victims, they can also watch out for the guillotine makers before the people get too riled up.
@Fellow Citizen –
Serendipity maybe, but while was doing a search I came across this most excellent quote from Dr. King. Very on-point for this discussion:
“An Individual has not started living fully until they can rise above the narrow confines of individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of humanity.” – Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Bingo!
…..let us not forget those who receive rent subsidy under the Housing Choice Voucher Program(HCV), commonly known as Section 8….renamed to HCV by HUD because of the bias notably shown to those on the Program….
…..articles have been published about the mismanagement and negative treatment to those within the Program by local housing authorities who manage the federally funded program in conjunction with both county and city supervision…..if one is on the Program it is assumed that you are a stupid, lazy, ignorant, rude ass who is taking from the responsible, hard working community……that one should be grateful for receiving rental benefits and not ask any questions about the Program and the Program management….
….as for me, I have a Bachelor’s degree, graduate school and have worked in both medicine and law with success…..now I cannot work because of medical limitations….but, still I am treated as if I am an ignorant bitch who is treated with disdain by those within the local housing authority……
……why am I not surprised by this article about intrusive Medicaid when treating women who are in need, women who should be protected and respected during their most needy times….Medicaid has made this a “moral” issue not a health issue….
…….Wow!…shocking!
@dollyme –
WOW – BUT Good on you for being a troublemaker!
I get some really funny looks and reactions from some of the staff at my eye doctors when I raise concerns about the privacy implications of some of their “check you id” things. I told them that info linked to a driver’s license might actually end up being sold (aren’t there really some states, including my NJ that DO sell some sort of DL data?)
And even those of us who have private insurance shouldn’t be too smug and complacent. With all the digitalization of records, the fact that insurance companies and employers may be sharing data, we ALL should be concerned about the privacy of our medical data.
@dollyme, @t –
Oooops. I think my reply was really addressing t’s post, and props for her troublemaking.
and dollyme, your post was very enlightening as well. I’m sorry you’re getting such treatment. Hang in there!
INPORTANT: People do not realize that when you sign up for certain Cost Clubs when they take your picture ID they are eye scanning you and follow you all over the store to gather marketing information. They are not just gathering information off of your purchases. And how hard do you think it would be for big Brother to access that information.
This would be a good way to gather information the government has not been able to gather on people that do not have a driver’s license. They claim having a driver’s license is a privilege thus they can fingerprint and eye cans you. It is not a privilege in America as our oil controlled government has made public transportation a crippled entity verses the rest of the world. If you do not have a driver’s license your access to work is extremely limited and so is your ability to work and earn the right to “Life Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
@Fellow Citizen –
Eye-scanning? Creepy. I’ve heard of following folks, but usually that’s by tracking a smartphone.
I have a couple of “loyalty cards” – now these don’t have pictures, but are supposed to save you money at that store. Ever since all the Snowden disclosures, I’ve stopped signing up for them. Some of them even want some intrusive info just to sign up.
Yeah, Big Brother’s quest for our info is scary and dangerous indeed.
Good points, all. There is currently a major scandal brewing here in southern Illinois. The local newspaper recently ran a series of articles about the mismanagement and corruption involving government housing in Cairo, Illinois. Cairo is in Alexander County, the poorest county in Illinois, and both the town and the housing is about 75 percent Black. While the residents’ requests for correction of roach-infested, dilapidated and unsafe living conditions went unheeded, the director and staff were living high on the hog, with bonuses, extravagant trips, etc. HUD in Chicago has temporarily taken over day to day control, so hopefully conditions will improve soon.
SWF. 67. Disabled since 1999. I walk into our local Senior & Disabled office and there’s a line. Each person, before any kind greeting or otherwise, the staff person asks: Social Security please. They repeat it.
I am up next. I ask her for a piece of paper and write down my SS#. I tell her that it’s a real invasion of privacy to ask people their SS#’s in such a public forum. She got nasty w/me. Every time I went I did the same thing and repeating the verbal caution.
The last time I was asked for my number, I handed her a piece of paper that had all of the names and numbers of those who’d been in front of me in the line.
They got my point. It made me feel good to walk thru their collective reaction to me: a trouble maker…… In the end it’s worth it. Thank you for this article. It is a subject that has shamed, wounded and made me afraid that I lost my right to ‘normal privacy’ simply because I am disabled.
*Don’t even get me started on how they tract the SNAP benefits ..what we eat, how much. Shameful.
Before I retired, I was a Social Security Disability Hearings Officer where I would conduct face-to-face hearings with folks who appealed the cessation of their disability benefits. Over the years, I saw Social Security Administration personnel treat claimants with disdain. I reported one worker , who later received a written reprimand, for writing a racist report of contact on a lady who had been receiving SSI. The treatment of those in dire need and desperate circumstances is truly despicable.
Honestly, I think the government needs to come out and announce a date, not more than a few years from now, on which it will publish the Social Security numbers of every citizen. I can’t think of any other way that they can finally get the point through the stupid lazy bankers’ heads that these numbers are NOT private and they are NOT a security measure. Nobody should have to be afraid that some number used in a hundred different places is their “responsibility” to keep secret. The bankers should be held responsible if they accept fraudulent loan applications.
Good going! You got me thinking – they were supposed to have done away with such requests but i suppose Dumya brought it back with the partriot fraud.
TRY THIS. When one makes a purchase with a debit card, one punches in their PIN. The same thing can be done with the SSN. There is no reason for anyone, not even the clerk, to hear or even see anyone’s SSN and it is perfectly doable to have a pad to enter your SSN that nobody in the office anywhere can see. VERY DOABLE. Anyone who says differently is a liar or has their head up their ass.
Make it happen!
Thanks for this article. The treatment of pregnant women in America is outrageous, and getting worse. More please!
Anything to keep the slave state intact, controlled, mitigated. The elite/ government will do anything to keep the class structure and monitor the pulse of their system through tracking, bolstering of the drug trade, unfair wage, and poisoned environments. We are being controlled like cattle more and more, and the ruling class are going to get their’s soon if we keep our heads up, communicate, and eventually take down through violence, if necessary, this slave system.
For sure. We are but slaughterable cattle in the coralle of the owners club.
Free and Clear is Wallstreet’s Fear
When you take money from others you should expect it to come with conditions. Since it is largely “government” policies keeping people poor (inflation, regulation, etc.) it is really expected that these programs, ostensibly to help, are really about control. That’s the natural outcome of organizing your “charitable” programs around involuntary exchanges.
If your neighbors, or social group, or church wants to be intrusive before they help you then you have the right to find new neighbors, social groups, or churches. But if you go to the people who help you by extracting from your neighbors you’ve lost the right to complain about what strings come attached.
And yes, life isn’t fair. And I wish we were all rich and free and happy. Until then there is no escape from the reality of nature and scarcity. Choose your social institutions wisely; they can always bite back, so don’t create the ones with the sharpest teeth.
I’m afraid it’s the Delusion of nature and scarcity, unless you know absolutely nothing about corporatism and the string of consequences related to the unwilling confiscation of wealth
I wish your comment was coherent enough to reply to. It’s possible even you understand and agree with my comment (when you speak of the “string of consequences related to the unwilling confiscation of wealth,” but I can’t tell.
I believe S was referring to the idea that if not for the extreme inefficiencies of our current economic and governmental systems, we could all be “rich and free and happy”. We don’t simply steal from the powerless, we throw a lot away. And with a little economic destruction now comes massive economic destruction down the road, because econ.
“And I wish we were all rich and free and happy.” You are lying. What would you do with your smug superiority?
What a pathetic attempt to troll.
Your comment was heartless and stupid on numerous levels. You are a comfortable coward. Using your brilliant “Tough Shit!” talking point, you condemn people who need help so badly that they have to put up with the indignity that come with it — and then tell the rest of us that there is nothing to be done.
Shall I continue?
“people who need help so badly that they” are willing to take stolen money, and support the thieves. In principle that is no different than saying that theft is okay if you feel you need something you can’t afford.
It’s sad that family units have been broken down, and local support networks are co-opted and superseded by the corporation known colloquially as Government. And it’s sad that real humans suffer the consequences. In fact there is much to be done. I put most of my efforts into reversing this trend.
But please don’t continue to cover up your ignorance and lack of imagination with foul language and ad hominem; if you must, then there really is no need for you to continue. I’ll leave you to “win” this comment thread with your next vulgar outburst.
Excuse me, but plenty of people who can’t afford medical care come from perfectly functioning families.
What X said makes sense. One person’s invasion of privacy is another person’s oversight and accountability mechanisms. There should always be strings attached, not just to entitlement programs, but any programs funded by taxpayers. Otherwise you get fraud, waste and abuse.
As for the law enforcement exemption, that clause has existed since the privacy act was passed in 1974. This isn’t some new expansion of the surveillance state as the article suggests.
Lastly, your response to X was embarrassing. X leaves an innocuous comment and you respond by calling him or her heartless, stupid, and a coward in a mere two sentences. You didn’t even try to have a civil discussion. Maybe you should assess whether groupthink has clouded your judgment and ability to engage in an adult conversation?
I’ll break that down to how many times in a mere two sentences your “judgement and ability to engage in an adult conversation” were questionable:
1)Lastly, your response to X was embarrassing.
2) You didn’t even try to have a civil discussion.
3)Maybe you should assess whether groupthink
4) has clouded your judgment
5) and ability to engage in an adult conversation?
That’s more than two sentences. Nice try Kitt.
A quote from the original comment by X: “But if you go to the people who help you by extracting from your neighbors you’ve lost the right to complain about what strings come attached.”
I think this is vile nonsense & I disagree strongly, Nate, that this excerpt from the first comment by X is “innocuous.” I disagree as well that it “makes sense” despite your endorsement.
This quote by X instead represents utterly typical & smug libertarian/right wing “I-owe-nothing-to-society” jibber jabber.
For example, the hysteria of the phrase “extracting from your neighbors” is a genuine embarrassment unlike the one you would foist upon me — oh dear, would X be making a reference to the terrible, terrible burden of paying TAXES to live in a society that is not just a dog-eat-dog society? To supporting a society that doesn’t necessarily cotton to letting the poor starve?? Heaven forbid, what an incursion on our liberties.
As Anatole France pointed out, “the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.” Likewise, various moron libertarians act as if there is some parity between a poor person who receives pittances of charity from the state and a corporation that benefits from millions of dollars in tax breaks. It’s all the same thing. If you are a heartless asshole.
If THAT is vile, how would you characterize your response which is not even a counter argument but just an insult? I agree that X’s comment is libertarian and I disagree with the notion that entitlements be characterized as extraction (i.e. Theft). What I do agree with X is that strings be attached when granting public money that without oversight is prone to be abused.
You incompetent. What is:
“I think this is. Ike nonsense….”
doing in the supposed excerpt from my post? Because I didn’t type that. Because I am not an idiot.
I take it you feel the world is so desperate to receive your wisdom that it can’t wait a few more seconds for your post to be coherent and accurate.
The postal service is funded by tax papers – what strings do you propose and what hoops one must jump through in order to get their pizza coupons?!? Roads and sidewalks are bankrolled by tax payers – what strings and hoops do you have in mind?!?
The USPS does not operate on tax payer dollars. It merely BORROWS money to fund healthcare expenses but has to repay those loans.
http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2013/jul/24/american-postal-workers-union/postal-service-claim-not-fully-target/
Regardless of that fact, they are subject to oversight by an Inspector General.
https://www.uspsoig.gov
Any more easily answered questions?
Uh. You will discover complete freedom from all the needy if you really want to. But you have to want to be free. NASA will be launching their mission to mars soon and you are free to go.
Jesus and Muhammed rule the good living soles of planet earth. How much did you get from uncle Lucifer for yours?
The question here is —– is medical care a charity, to be given and withheld at the whim of the donors, or is it a right, which all should have without conditions?
If it is a charity, then we have the odd situation that if you go out and stab someone to death, you then have a right to medical care in prison earned by this deed. Unless, that is, we follow the common course of denying medical care to prisoners, which is supposed to be a violation of fundamental principles of decency, even when they are enemy soldiers with no citizenship right in your country at all. (Or do enemy soldiers have rights your citizens don’t?) If you follow that logic through, eventually you’re out there with misericord in hand and no Geneva Convention at all.
Which makes sense, because a right to health care is a sort of Geneva Convention in the economic realm, a line beyond which the economic battle for resources is not supposed to trespass.
But if health care is a right, then why is it a right? Well, fundamentally, because all people are endowed with their Creator with certain inalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We want people to have the liberty to keep their earned wealth, sure; but if people don’t have the right to live, then there can be no stable law, because there will always be someone going out to kill for the cartel or commit a suicide bombing in exchange that his son gets treatment and lives.
But where does this wealth come from? Well, as per the text, it comes from the Creator; or more specifically, from Creation, including the land and the sea and the minerals and the oil. We know full well no man created these things — even though, to this day, the rich go in a back room and hatch some scheme that says that anyone who says they own an asteroid and has the right kind of investment to back up that absurd claim is forever after its controller. People have the right to create and hold wealth, to have private landholdings that they keep others from messing with, to take the resources of the Earth and use them — but the caveat is that the raw materials are not theirs, and they owe a debt to the others who don’t take these resources and don’t hold that land. This debt can be calculated relatively precisely by essentially market mechanisms, if we are willing to recognize the invalidity of those who claim that their class owns everything and everyone else is a trespasser on the world.
Most well said. As “good” as your perspective is on this, and it is most good, i have adopted my observation that people who live outside the 10 commandments or the DOI, are thieving souls who simply dismiss enlightenment in favor of maintaining the vanity of their misgiving ways for the pleasure of their unearthly master who is in best position to guide them along their path.
…..there is this thing in our country called the U.S. Constitution and this other thing called the Bill of Rights that mandates certain rights to protect individual dignity…..
….personally, I am willing to be in compliance with rules and regulations when they do not impede or destroy my guaranteed rights……
……as for your comments, you should live elsewhere where you can twirl your parasol while discussing “those OTHERS who do not appreciate what WE give them”……
…..and, frankly, what the hell do you mean?????
Jesus would not agree with you.
With the abandonment of respect for people (human beings) by default, and the belief that humans are imperfect and replaceable given the way humans are treated on jobs as if jobs were the center of life, it is very predictable that the government would take any and every opportunity to know everything about you and your daily life so that the gov can plant a target on your forehead in any circumstance where you might object or protest policies of the ruling class.
We have been branded as expendable. Relatively useless. Too expensive. The ruling class really does prefer slavery and that is the problem.
The relationship is flipped. Instead of the people owning their government, the government is owned by the wealthy and owns the people.
Medicaid is a really mixed bag. There are some states where AFAIK it is basically private insurance subsidized by the government like Obamacare, only 100%. Then there are others… I think it would be very useful if someone could compile an index of how these things vary.