SKINCENTIAL SCIENCES, a company with an innovative line of cosmetic products marketed as a way to erase blemishes and soften skin, has caught the attention of beauty bloggers on YouTube, Oprah’s lifestyle magazine, and celebrity skin care professionals. Documents obtained by The Intercept reveal that the firm has also attracted interest and funding from In-Q-Tel, the venture capital arm of the Central Intelligence Agency.
The previously undisclosed relationship with the CIA might come as some surprise to a visitor to the website of Clearista, the main product line of Skincential Sciences, which boasts of a “formula so you can feel confident and beautiful in your skin’s most natural state.”
Though the public-facing side of the company touts a range of skin care products, Skincential Sciences developed a patented technology that removes a thin outer layer of the skin, revealing unique biomarkers that can be used for a variety of diagnostic tests, including DNA collection.
Skincential Science’s noninvasive procedure, described on the Clearista website as “painless,” is said to require only water, a special detergent, and a few brushes against the skin, making it a convenient option for restoring the glow of a youthful complexion — and a novel technique for gathering information about a person’s biochemistry.
A screen grab from the Clearista website.
Image: Clearista.com
In-Q-Tel, founded in 1999 by then-CIA Director George Tenet, identifies cutting-edge technology to support the mission of the CIA and other intelligence agencies, and provides venture funding to help grow tech firms to develop those solutions.
“Our company is an outlier for In-Q-Tel,” Russ Lebovitz, the chief executive of Skincential Sciences, said during an interview with The Intercept. He conceded that the relationship might make for “an unusual and interesting story,” but said, “If there’s something beneath the surface, that’s not part of our relationship and I’m not directly aware. They’re interested here in something that can get easy access to biomarkers.”
Still, Lebovitz claimed he has limited knowledge of why In-Q-Tel selected his firm.
“I can’t tell you how everyone works with In-Q-Tel, but they are very interested in doing things that are pure science,” Lebovitz said. The CIA fund approached his company, telling him the fund shares an interest in looking at DNA extraction using the method pioneered by Skincential Sciences, according to Lebovitz.
The CIA fund has described human skin as a “unique, underutilized source for sample collection.”
Beyond that, Lebovitz said he was unsure of the intent of the CIA’s use of the technology, but the fund was “specifically interested in the diagnostics, detecting DNA from normal skin.” He added, “There’s no better identifier than DNA, and we know we can pull out DNA.”
Perhaps law enforcement could use the biomarker extraction technique for crime scene identification or could conduct drug tests, Lebovitz suggested.
Carrie A. Sessine, the vice president for external affairs at In-Q-Tel, declined a media interview because “IQT does not participate in media interviews or opportunities.”
(Officials at the venture capital firm have, in fact, given interviews in the past.)
Though In-Q-Tel operates in the open, it has often kept key details of its activities out of public view, beyond required annual reports. After a SecureDrop source told The Intercept about a gathering in San Jose for In-Q-Tel executives and start-up companies backed by the fund, The Intercept attempted to attend, but was denied access.
Skincential Sciences was among several presenting companies.
The shroud of secrecy around In-Q-Tel belies a 17-year effort to build ties between the CIA and the biggest names in Silicon Valley. Gilman Louie, a video game executive known for publishing best-sellers such as Tetris, Falcon, and Civilization II, was brought on as the first chief executive of In-Q-Tel. The popular mapping tool Google Earth was created around technology developed by Keyhole Corp., an In-Q-Tel-backed company that was later acquired by Google.
A graphic from the “IQT Quarterly” summer 2010 issue on the new modalities in sampling and sensing collection.
Graphic: IQT Quarterly
Still, little is publicly revealed about the use of In-Q-Tel-backed ventures and their relevance to the goals of intelligence agencies. Many of the fund’s investments are not publicly revealed. The fund is reviewed by the CIA’s inspector general and reports directly to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, which frequently conducts business through classified briefings.
David Petraeus, while serving as the director of the CIA in 2012, remarked, “Our partnership with In-Q-Tel is essential to helping identify and deliver groundbreaking technologies with mission-critical applications to the CIA and to our partner agencies.”
Despite the association with computer and satellite technology, In-Q-Tel also maintains a long-running interest in developing advanced genetic analysis, biological technologies for detection and diagnostics, as well as research into what is known as physiological intelligence, which, in a 2010 article, the fund described as “actionable information about human identity and experience that have always been of interest to the Intelligence Community.”
The article, which is no longer available on the fund’s website but is preserved by a cache hosted by the Internet Archive, argues that advances in medical research into biomarkers can be leveraged by intelligence agencies for a variety of uses, from airport security to next-generation identification tools.
A diagram in the article calls human skin the body’s largest organ and a “unique, underutilized source for sample collection.” The author, Dr. Kevin O’Connell, then a “senior solutions architect” with In-Q-Tel, notes, “The DNA contained in microorganisms in a person’s gut or on a person’s skin may contain sequences that indicate a particular geographical origin.”
A screen grab from the Clearista website describing the resurfacing process of its product.
Image: Clearista.com
In-Q-Tel has invested in several companies working in this realm, in addition to Skincential Sciences. In 2013, In-Q-Tel publicly announced a strategic partnership with Bio-NEMS, a firm that developed a semiconductor device used to analyze DNA for a variety of diagnostic and human identification applications. Claremont BioSolutions, a diagnostics firm, and Biomatrica, a firm that specializes in preparing biological samples for DNA testing, are also backed by In-Q-Tel.
Skincential Sciences did not start out as a beauty company. The firm was founded in 2010 as DX Biosciences, which was developed around a patent by a team of scientists including Dr. Samir Mitragotri of the University of California, Santa Barbara. Mitragotri has published research into the use of biomarkers as a “window to body’s health.”
The company gained early backing from Frontier, a venture capital company, among other investors.
While the technology has potential for a variety of medical diagnostics, including early melanoma detection, Lebovitz said the company quickly realized it had immediate value as a cosmetic. The application of the detergent developed by the firm could be used easily to diminish blemishes and dark patches on the skin. And unlike similar treatments at aesthetic spas, the technology developed by Dr. Mitragotri and his colleagues did not require acid or any discomfort.
In 2013, the firm relaunched and recapitalized as Skincential Sciences, with Clearista as its primary brand of beauty products.
Lebovitz says he intends to continue developing the technology so that it may be medically relevant, but he is also focusing on breaking into the multibillion-dollar skin care market. While Skincential has won measured success for its Clearista brand products by landing coverage on television and through social media, the company has not yet been able to compete with mainstream skin care companies.
Jamie Walsh, a blogger who runs Glam Latte, a beauty website, endorsed a Clearista product on her YouTube channel, noting that with only one application of the cream, her skin improved and was “glowing.” Walsh said Skincential Sciences sent her the product for a testimonial, and noted that like many independent brands, she did not know about the company’s funding.
Skincential hopes to license its product with a major distributor, or even one day become acquired by a larger beauty company. “We’ll take any of those,” said Lebovitz.
The chief executive noted that he is proud of the In-Q-Tel support, calling the fund “great partners.”
At the gathering in February for In-Q-Tel portfolio companies, Lebovitz joined a crowd that included a number of In-Q-Tel executives, along with senior members of the intelligence community. Presenting speakers included Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey, Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Work, and John Maeda, design partner of Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, a leading Silicon Valley investment firm.
“Not only was I the odd man out,” Lebovitz said, “but almost every woman at the conference wanted to come up to me to talk about skin care.”
Great now crime scene investigation gets a little weird n morbid. When they find a unidentified body in dumpster they can now apply makeup before they take photo of corpse, Might as well add lipstick and do hair for their last photo too. Ok, ok I am just being bad. but why? as a hair sample would do? or any scraping of skin from body?
I came to your article from the Business of Fashion! Great work!
http://www.businessoffashion.com/daily-digest April 11th.
1)…Can this technology be used to identify components or possible causation of toxic exposures in relation to illness and disease for prevention; or identify a record of cultural toxic exposures in a chronological history for current illnesses and diseases? aka #stopmonsatan
2)…does anyone else worry about taking off the surface of their skin when god and evolution has pretty much given it to us with a specific purpose for our existence? What could go wrong right?
3)…whats with the glow? thats a heart thing not a skin thing…
Her skin was “glowing” …. Has anyone tried using a UV-sensitive camera on this “glowing” skin? Might be interesting.
ok. I have decided to make a lot of women rich and the plan is simple and the task is easy. For each and every county fair across the U S of A, i am going to have a kissing booth. And for just $1 any and every man can kiss the attactive woman of their choice for 2 seconds but only after dousing his mouth with the special spray disinfectant+refreshener swish and spit which proceeds will be distributed as follows:
$1 to the woman. (at 2 sec/kiss that’s $100+/minute = $6,000 / hour less my 20% and rental fees
$x for sales of said rinse and spit to the NSA labs with foto for their face recognition. If the nsa wants a produced id., that is available at extra cost.
*This business concept is patent pending and all interested parties are encouraged to inquire about licensing. Protected by TPP. TPP is a registered trademark of the TPP.
From the outside, at it’s best, it appears (some) CIA officials are selfless public servants that take great risks but receive no public recognition while operating within the U.S. Constitution.
This good-guy wing of CIA officials, if it exists, also follow their “supreme” oath of office to uphold the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights in relation to all U.S. citizens (home and abroad) and all persons on U.S. soil. Such a group would also be an excellent “check” on FBI style CoinTelPro tactics (the bad-guy wing of the FBI).
If this is how the CIA operated it would be a great asset to the American people but anything else is genuinely scary with such unchecked secrecy. Due to the excessive secrecy, we will never know what they really do or if they are a force for good or bad.
There are some who no doubt join the CIA with good intentions. I can’t imagine, however, that it takes too long before they learn what kind of group they have joined. I am so grateful that they had a hiring freeze when I applied after college. I have met some ex-employees that became disenchanted and quit. Obviously, they frown on whistleblowers.
good guy or bad guy – – – that is the question….
But really, the answer is quite obvious and determinable. The C…I…A… is big into rendition and torture, right? Right. Quite simple, The newcomers to the CIA will rendition and torture the oldcomers of the CIA to get the info as to whether they are G or B. Torture works, right? Right. They will attest to that so we will take them at their word.
To accomplish this, POTUS need only (he is the boss, right? Right.) issue a command as follows: “Some of you folks here at the CIA are good folks and some not so, you know. Starting today, y’all are going to be flown to a free vacation place in the newly re-defined Cuba. Most of you will return.”
This should not be a problem seeing as how the C…I…A… has so much experience in this matter.
FYI i forbid my children to apply for a job with the C…I…A…
If my kids want a treasonous job, at least they should get top dollar for that in which case they can apply to an overseas money-laundering tax-dodging lawfirm.
The intrusions into privacy have gone way beyond hyper and are now just basically all-encompassing. It’s time to put these 3 letter monsters out of business. People need to be left alone to live their lives ins quiet obscurity.
There are far easier ways to collect DNA than with a makeup kit. I’m not happy about it, but it’s the truth. Merely touching an object can sometimes leave DNA on it that can be replicated and used for analysis. And just about anyone who has ever licked a stamp or envelope has put DNA on it.
If you don’t want your DNA recovered from an object, don’t touch it with your bare skin. I wouldn’t even allow the object to come into contact with any clothes or other items that had touched my bare skin.
If I may inject some general comments on the police state:
Americans are waking up, but not quickly enough. More people need to be educated that government does not keep us safe. In the long run, nothing is more dangerous than concentrated government power. And whatever powers we entrust to the government today, we are also entrusting to ALL future governments, including the next Stalin, Hitler, or Mao.
Ultimately, the answer is to embrace libertarianism or even minarchism. If a large enough subset of Americans were to unite and organize to promote the secession of one or more states, it could put an end to this totalitarian nightmare. Going forward, government should never be allowed to have more power than what is absolutely necessary to have a functioning society. It should be as decentralized as possible and kept on a VERY short leash by a well-armed population. (Mao was a barbaric monster, but he was right on the money when he said, “all political power comes from the barrel of a gun.”)
Think that sounds dangerous? It is. Freedom will always be abused by some. But what’s far more dangerous is big government. Of all the people murdered in the 20th Century, a solid majority were killed by their own governments. Even warfare didn’t kill as many people. Check out the work of R.J. Rummel on “democide.”
“There are far easier ways to collect dna than with a makeup kit”
libertarian “freedom” = unfettered oligarchy
The real problem is the evil economic currency print-loan-hock system in place today which was forced on America in 1913 with the federal reserve act which reversed the 1775 revolution and turned the u.s. into a subordinate (slave) colony for the investors who wanted their money back after losing it in 1776 and 1865. The z-club offered those investors a way to get their money back.
Why just the other day the bankster thieves threatened the german banks if they protested.
https://www.rt.com/news/339080-israel-bds-terrorism-german-banks
Didn’t we see that before on March 24 1933?
Since men are probably not efficient targets for this collection method, one must wonder what the CIA has planned for them. Do they have sperm banks in Pakistan?
If NSA’s motto is “Collect It all,” CIA’s is “Control It All.”
how about Network Spying (or Scavenging) Aho’s?
CIA-owned companies nothing new; airlines for War On Drugs, rendition; private security co’s for home security, cars patrol private streets; mercenaries; etc. etc.
We the people need to face the facts. The CIA used to depend on us. Then we used to depend on them. They are all growed up now and they don’t need us and we don’t seem to need them. In fact they are now completely independent and can do as the DWPlease.
Speaking of privitisation, when will the CIA do their IPO? They already got their ticker symbol in place.
Keep electing obamanauts…..
Even if this cream does remove DNA carrying skin cells, how would the gestapo, er, CIA acquire it if the user washes it away without submitting a sample?
I’m a guy and don’t use stuff like this however, whatever I do use is washed away down the drain or flushed away.
So~~how would they get it?
My read is that the user won’t be submitted to a police check by using the product. In-Q-Tel’s interest is is developing the technology so that they can have access to a cream (which may or may not be the same that is being sold commerically to the civilian sector) that the police can use on someone in their custody, or surreptiously.
That article Lee linked to (preserved in a cache) mentions that due to how biomarkers are advancing medicine the collection they’re looking for would probably be taken at the doctors office. You would either consent or if they had reason to be concerned about your political views (or if paid enough no doubt ) they could get the sample they want without you knowing. (kind of like if they or a person with clearance decides they want your online or phone info for however many years.) You could probably add requirements for entry into any gov institution or id badge.
They also said that biomarkers could help identify if you’ve been around certain chemicals/ explosives and that scanners could discover that and an ability to tell where you are actually from.
The methods and means of collecting will be effective because would you rather have invasive and less effective techniques for a medical diagnosis, would you rather be examined by law enforcement/TSA – or a quick swab, scrape and rinse like on your finger or something. They will be helping you and protecting America.
Why should you fear skin cream?
Actually the possible methods for getting genetic information from this skin cream sound similar to the swab many companies are using for drug tests now.
Dissembling Never Heard From Before Troll Avoids The Recurring Question Asked “How Do They Collect The Samps”
:-(
Then just give it a try!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S94Bh3Qez9o
Candace,
Give WHAT A Try Praytell? Everyone knows an ANT CANT move a rubber tree plant Candace (you wacky kid). Our question is how does the CIA collect the samples of their skin cream for analysis in DARPA labs?
I suppose they could be putting something in the cream that overstimulates the amygdala (flight or fight response) creating a state of fear in the user but I’m sure if the user were intellectually sound and physically and psychologically healthy they’d eventually realize they were frightened without cause and just chalk it up to more possible unsanctioned wacky human experimentation by our duly elected fourth reich.
IIN RESPONSE TO OUR INQUIRY “How do the collect the samples?” Our Candace Troll leaves us a youtube link to Frank Sinatra singing “High Hopes”
the same melody the Chairman of the Board used campaigning John (Jack)
F Kennedy in 1960. Another Deep State Miracle!
You and HAL are the same person?
How do they collect the samples?
MACHINING PHYSIOLOGICAL INTELLIGENCE…
With all that madness in mind, when we consider the Smartphone, we see a device that utilizes RF and tracks your every move, desire and taste, with all of that data being transferred to mysterious third parties which are sold and stored in vast data centers around the globe. In line with JC Collins’ thought, as well as NSA whistleblower William Binney, I have opined that this is all being stored with the intent of a global SmartGrid control system. While it is true that one level competition between Silicon Valley tech companies may be permitted, the reality was elucidated years ago in former CIA operative Melissa Mahle’s 2004 autobiography, Denial and Deception: An Insider’s View of the CIA, where she explained the origins of In-Q-Tel:
How do they collect the genetic data (acgt sequencing) their cream reveals? How small an area could be covered by the cream to achieve the one stated goal in the story collecting your dna. If such epidural collection works why would the cia want you to cover the whole face more than once. Or for the duration of your use of this cia dna revealing product or any other as yet unknown cia dna revealing product serving the same purpose?
Perhaps the cream has properties which allow the dna and/or dna sequencing it marks and reveals acgt strings to be identified collected and transmitted remotely from electronic devices or networks a few inches, feet away from our faces. Devices we’d tend to use every day.
Once they achieve that initial end though (collecting your unique acgt sequence) any future use of the product voluntarily (because we now know about this version of it ) or involuntarily (because we havent discovered the AllBrands shaving cream version of it yet) must have some ongoing utility to them. Perhaps an epigenetic component tracking how your acgt sequence changes over time (information transmitted out for collection) or perhaps something shortening your telomeres (information transmitted in for a specific effect)
http://www.public.asu.edu/%7Ewtyler/lab/Curriculum%20Vitae_files/Tyler_IQT_Quarterly_2010.pdf
The brains of animals (including humans) possess
the ability to differentially process, synthesize, and integrate information based on past experience (memory), levels of physiological arousal (stress or anxiety), and the contexts of sensory cues (associations), combined with the previous outcome of an action (reward or punishment). These abilities rely on complex brain circuits serving different functions. Just as we know the hippocampus is a brain region vital to learning and memory, we know other neural circuits are involved in regulating complex behaviors and emotions such as motor control, planning and execution, pleasure and pain, fear, aggression, eating, sleeping, and addiction. Collectively, these circuits work in unison to form the basis of physiological intelligence. ..
Besides fMRI, which suffers from poor spatial resolution, numerous functional brain mapping methods are beginning to ourish due to recent gains in computational power. For example, the emerging eld of connectomics employs optical microscopy, electron microscopy, and computer-assisted reconstructions to map all the synaptic connections of a brain. Similar molecular brain mapping studies, such as those being conducted by the Allen Brain Institute, will also provide useful information for continuing to unravel brain function and the physiological basis of human intelligence. It is important to recognize how deep the rabbit hole goes requires some teliable means for measuring its quanta or depth. Ha ha.
>”…or involuntarily (because we havent discovered the AllBrands shaving cream version of it yet)”
Ah, I was wondering about that. They’re missing half the ‘market’ … *I no longer use the beauty potions and lotions (I’m too pretty as it is.), but I have to shave twice a day!
How bizarre, how bizarre.
You need to get some fresh air, man. Seriously.
Only the Very Best Nanoscale Cardiac Arrhythmia Sleep Apnea and Amygdala Flight or Fight Response Enhancers
Genuine American Tools.
Possible side effects include…
And You Need to Spend More Time in the Private Sector…
“*I no longer use the beauty potions and lotions (I’m too pretty as it is.)”
i kan testesfie too teh trooth uv tihs statemunt.
bah iz teh purteeyest menz i no.
i haev too beet teh wimminz off him liek tehm wuz skeeturz don u no.
One could imagine that the razor, the holder or the electric shaver, etc., could contain a transmitting device. Does this ‘skin-care’ product come with an applicator? This possibility opens up a lot of cans of worms. I am now thinking about the other products that come in close contact with the body and have an applicator that is normally not retained.
I don’t really get the CIA involvement and what they think they can gain from this product as it currently exists.
An Amazon Warehouse of Worms in Cans…
The Nazi Party’s Schutzstaffel (SS, “Protective Squadron”) under Heinrich Himmler had its own commercial business endeavors. There is nothing new under the Sun.
Makeup is sad. It’s fake, it’s phony. Don’t let culture tell you what to look like.
The BIG story is one Intercept won’t print; their refusal to do a story on the Panama papers that they had access to over a year ago.
Ah yes, our Government in bed with business. Isn’t that illegal? Well, we can’t have anything like the rule of law stand in the way, huh?
Not surprising since facebook and google are CIA
Just the words ” venture-capital arm of the CIA are chilling.”
Unless the venture-capital was developed by the CIA itself through other means like trafficking drugs, which would automatically make every firm thus funded – money launderers, those are U.S. tax dollars they’re using. You’re correct to be concerned things are not what they seem, because treasury budgeted monies being used in risky business ventures just for the CIA to better catalog everyone – demands a broader public discussion of their annual funding and ultimate goals.
>”– demands a broader public discussion of their annual funding and ultimate goals.”
Ha. Good one, nfjtakfa. *we could call the SSIC … but DiFi and Burrrr are busy busting encryption (i.e. outlawing privacy).
Don’t I know it. It’s like asking a totally corrupt Congress to pass strict campaign finance reform. But perhaps there’ll always be some version of the Intercept out there and whether-they-like-it-or-not.
>”But perhaps there’ll always be some version of the Intercept out there and whether-they-like-it-or-not.”
That’s a very good point … and one that gets far too little attention imo.
*I don’t think these ‘cloak and dagger’ people (Hayden, Brennon and the boys) have really thought that threw ~
Snowden revealed the extent of spying and offensive disruption of electronic communications, and associated potential for abuse.
But, who will come forward to expose the extent of DNA and biometric snooping, and associated abuses?
While most of the population is oblivious or does not care to wake up, a small percentage is fighting at the perceived frontiers of Internet and electronic communications privacy.
However, this might all be a convenient distraction on behalf of the spy agencies if the real game is being played out at the level of DNA and remote bio signals surveillance and disruption–of which any public knowledge is essentially non-existent.
“…the real game is being played out at the level of DNA and remote bio signals surveillance and disruption…”
In 1997, the aggregate figure for all US government intelligence and intelligence-related activities—of which the CIA is but one part—was made public for the first time. The aggregate intelligence budget was $26.6 billion in fiscal year 1997 and $26.7 billion for fiscal year 1998. The intelligence budgets for all other years remain classified.
Now why doesn’t the CIA want their budget revealed since we are the ones expected to pick up their CORRUPT TAG? Is this what the USA calls TRANSPARENCY? The USA is such a SAD SACK country, with such a high level of political corruption and greed. It SUCKS to have a government that FORCES its CITIZENS to SUPPORT TERRORIST GOVERNMENT ENTITIES such as the CIA!
The only way for fairness in the USA is to BANISH the IRS and make this government have to put out to the public projects they want funded. If the people don’t want to fund it, then you are SOOL. I don’t like being classified as a terrorist, I don’t go into foreign countries and kidnap and murder, so why should the government be allowed to FORCE US to PARTICIPATE IN THEIR TERRORISM and ILLEGAL ACTIONS?
Time to put the CIA on TRIAL in the International courts for all their CORRUPTION and MURDERS!
quote”Now why doesn’t the CIA want their budget revealed since we are the ones expected to pick up their CORRUPT TAG? Is this what the USA calls TRANSPARENCY? “unquote
If you really wanted the answer you would have already found it in the Pike Committee Hearings transcripts, and the history of what happened to the report . Btw, if you don’t like paying for CIA corruption.. you can always quit working for someone else.
Could not agree with you more Miss V
CIA=Clowns in America!
Mess with the bull, you get the Fang!
Keep up the amazing work!!
Why are they doing this? It is part of the DNA global database. Your DNA is a unique way of identify you unless you are identical twins and even then it often is. In order to control everyone they need to track everyone 24/7. Plus having your bio-resonant signature allows them to remotely torture or kill you.
Amen, brother.
I’m not real fond of the way many government agencies are taking advantage of laws passed with anti-terrorism in mind and turning them against American citizens. I guess we should have realized that the nature of government is to expand and grow more powerful at all costs, as history has taught us, and not allowed them any extra authority even in the wake of an event such as 9-11. We should also had learned our lesson with the widespread abuse 1970 RICO statutes. These statutes were passed with an eye towards prosecuting organized crime and have now been turned loose on everyday American citizens who are in no way, shape or form analogous to organized crime.
Ironically enough these statutes would have a particular applicability in prosecuting corrupt government officials but as one might imagine have never been considered for such a use because of their effectiveness and the fact that those corrupt government officials do not allow themselves to be governed by the same set of laws as are we, the people.
This technology seems to be more than we should allow with respect for use against American citizens and its use should be confined only to those involved with terrorism related crimes. The type of officials in government today do not give one confidence in their ability to abide by and enforce the laws fairly and uniformly and should not be entrusted with any benefit of the doubt where our Constitutional protections are concerned. We have gone down that road before and have been burned at every turn and with this current, lawless President and his corrupted DOJ, IRS and now State Department we can take no chances. This technology needs to be put on the shelf at least for the time being as it presents a far greater danger than that which it may aid in preventing.
Rich in New Mexico.
Notwithstanding President Truman who created the CIA, Senators Church , Rockefeller and Pike knew..the CIA was out of control by 1964, and tried to put the Genie back in the bottle in the late 70’s, via the creation of “oversight” of the IC via the FISA, which actually became a useless, rubberstamping crock o shit. By 1967, even Jim Garrison came to the conclusion the CIA …IS..the government, leaving the Congress as a debating society that has no power over the CIA. Pike found out the hard way. The fact is..incoming Congress dipshits don’t have a clue to what they are dealing with here. Even Diane Fienstein, by virtue of the “Torture” report debacle whereby the CIA infiltrated Congressional staff computers at CIA during their tenure of compiling data from CIA computers, that the CIA is capable and willing to do anything in their power to destroy any and all documentation of their incomprehensibly evil past and present trajectory of world wide drug and weapons running, political and social mass murder, money laundering, and a host of other highly documented activities that border on the largest organized crime element in the history of this planet. The In-Q-Tel branch of the CIA tree is only one teeny weeny bit of their front company portfolio, even given their If the citizens of this nation were ever to discover the real truth of the CIA…there would be a revolution of biblical proportions. This article only scratches the surface of the map of the Octopus’s tentacles. In reality, the CIA is .. an unaccountable, rogue power on this planet that works at the behest of the .01% via a group known by many names, but best described by one of CIA’s own, Col. Fletcher Prouty, as the Secret Team. If you are truly interested in discovering what this organized crime cartel is really about..one can start with Prouty’s documentation..here:
http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/ST/ST.html
JFK discovered even he had no power over them. Follow Proutys letters to Jim Garrison. Moreover, read everything on the Ratville site. Once you’ve entered the rabbit hole though, you will never be the same.
Always wondered about that. Presidents come and go but the gov ops are forever. Perhaps these gov ops have become mad dogs off the leash who make demands of every “just-passing-thru” president who can better serve the people by taking a 4 year hiatus and do reviews on restaurants, golf courses, vacation spots, sign autographs, and maybe conduct a few white house tours.
The CIA has been out of control since its inception, not 1964. Google Camp King, my first post after intelligence school. With the aid of Nazi doctors and scientists, they were conducting experiments with LSD and all other kinds of shit. They have never been under control and never will be.
Well said. And this is why things like action on climate change will never take place until it inconveniences the powerful. They are the dirty tricks /propaganda department for the world’s polluters. By buying into the hero worship bullshit we see on 24, etc., we are literally killing ourselves.
For sure. I met a someone one day who told me about cambodia, air fights and drugs. Not because he heard about it, but because he was involved in it.
I guess when the CIA needs money, they just step into their ORGANIZED CRIME suits and go to work until their budget objective is filled. Meanwhile Americans suffer and die for their abuse but never get a medal of honor for serving as collateral damage.
I flew several times with Air CIA, oops I mean Air America several times while in Vietnam, but just to one of our field offices. Can’t really comment on the Cambodian stuff other than what I have read over the years. They did have a strange fleet of aircraft, for sure.
DM
Can’t wait for Christ’s return, the final judgement, and sentencing of evil to the lake of fire for eternity.
Actually, you are correct. They just inherited a corrupt OSS. Edward Landsdale was living proof. I only tried to infer that by 1964, the death of JFK and the subsequent investigation/Commission, gave the world it’s first exposure to some of the hidden escapades of CIA. And yes..they will never be held accountable..until such time as a POTUS/Congress gets the balls to do so. Unfortunately..NSA will see to it that never happens.
Point taken. By their inherent nature, any intelligence organization can only be controlled IF and to the extent they want to be controlled. And none of them would agree to that, obviously. The train left the station with the first formal organization of the first intelligence group. And that train is never returning, unfortunately.
Landsdale and the CIA and let’s not forget another involved party.
http://www.ctrl.org/essay1/ESB7.html
this TEXAS THING also involves the goods on LBJ and his maribe hitman Mac Wallace. I don’t have a pic of this guy but i would look for a matchup there. If you want a sharpshooter, you call the usmc. could be a matchup.
If Lee Fang had been alive and around during the CIA’s MK ULTRA program, I’d bet there never would have been one!
If Lee Fang had been alive and around during the CIA’s MK ULTRA program and tried to report it THEN…he wouldn’t be here now.
But really, who is surprised by this?
(joke)
I am sorry but my brain is wondering why they are not studying dead people’s skin, or the many volunteers they can get, and all this about getting everything about DNA somehow makes us very nervous, the government has made itself clear many times in the last 25 years, the citizen is the enemy, we must find ways to control them, to make them do as we will have them do..
I, for one, welcome our eye shadow slinging overlords.
Yeah, well I, for one, think people who welcome an Orwellian Surveillance and Police state, should have a fucking lobotomy.
generalwarrant should take an over-the-counter irony supplement once a day with meals
Vic Perry should get a fucking grip on the seriousness of things that wasting words via jokes and adolescent humor only proves how dumb this country really is. Now..fuck off dolt.
generalwarrant: Every joke is a tiny revolution. -George Orwell
Irony as a move is universal and timeless, not something that belongs to this “dumb” country — or “adolescents” or this time period in particular. Your inability to read is your problem.
You completely misread the opening post and posted a stupid insult as a result. Now you try to cover up your inability to read with a bunch of invective.
Being able to discern obvious irony is not some optional skill, if you want to participate in discourse. Even if you don’t want to use irony yourself, you should get better at discerning extremely obvious uses of it for your own good.
hahahahhahahahhahah comment of the day, i was thinking something similar.El General necsista relajarse, however it’s spelled…
It’s a borrowed, altered quote meant to denote irony and the fact that resistance is {apparently, lacking a MHCHAOS/COINTELPRO/MKULTRA whistleblower} futile.
lets give CHRISK the 2-FLAGS test.
Yet another piece of reporting demonstrating that Lee Fang is an enormous asset to The Intercept; the sunlight disinfecting the rotted secret state.
So. How do they collect the samples?
Guinea pigs for a new remote-controlled nanotech ?
Not really necessary, is it? Seem like multinational-loving psychos are in danger of losing control of the narrative in any meaningful way? Any glimmer that the Permawar cashcow is coming to a halt?
They’re into everything, every form of media and consumerism. Budget is 150% NSA’s for a reason {thanks, Edward for that info} and that doesn’t count the funding from wealthy individuals, off-the-books ops, and phony front institutions that take contributions.
Good point, but then again, why increase a military budget (as several GOP candidates are suggesting) that already represents one third of all military spendings worldwide ? The thirst for dominion is totalitarian by nature. Therefore, contrary to your argument, it is not rational. Or, if it is, it can only be explained by the need to spend the piles of cash you’re referring to…
@ Ness a siree 4 wut ?
Depends on the level we’re talking about, but repeat of Congressmen owning boats during ‘Nam and being paid to ship ammo potentially forever plus plain ol’ kickbacks seems like a big portion.
Another part, when one adds Honduras to the equation is US fronting muscle for Chinese, Japanese, UK and EU investors. In the case of Syria and Libya, think we can thank Saudi Arabia.
There does seem to be an effort to put the world on a single banking system with NK, China, Russia, Brazil, and Iran being the main holdouts. Where that is concerned, one can look back at the LIBOR scandal and see it for what it is: Skimming off the top of every finanical transaction on the planet. Even a very, very small percentage over what the interest rate “should” be is a fortune bigger than most billionaires will ever see. Seems inevitable that one day multinational banks will be bombed. Or at least have sticks and stones thrown at their offices. We may reach some kind of neuroscience singularity and all just not care anymore that we’re sitting in squalor.
But that’s why it’s hard to predict and pin down. Many ways it could go. I’m afraid our whistleblowing is about as far behind what’s happening behind the scenes as our legislation is to deal with any of it.
…nanotech.
…new remote control
Guinea pigs for
Interesting article, Lee Fang. Haven’t seen stories outside of books.
Thank you.
so this mean’s it is an USA tax payer owned company!
right. Says a moron of biblical proportions
CIA Headquarters Discussion Room transcript:
“So did we screw up with the bin Laden polio vaccination campaign? Gosh, I guess so. Of course we didn’t mean to paint all polio vaccine efforts in Pakistan as a CIA front campaign aimed at collecting DNA samples so they can be screened for the presence of bin Laden relatives. How many polio vaccine campaign workers have been killed far? Some dozens, isn’t it? The suicide bomber that hit a polio clinic in Quetta, Pakistan, in Jan 2016, killing 14 people? And another dozen killed in Nigeria by Islamic State affiliate Boko Haram?”
news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/02/150225-polio-pakistan-vaccination-virus-health/
“So, no more of that! Never mind the damage has already been done. . . but how can we move on from this debacle, while still collecting DNA samples from anyone we please? Hey, how about this idea: we distribute beauty care products to women all across Pakistan and encourage them to send in their samples for ‘beauty treatment analysis’? Gosh, brilliant idea – and isn’t that our friend Tenet’s company? He’s a pal, let’s throw him a few hundred million. He can guarantee us some cushy board positions after we retire from this gig, can’t he? Is it a deal? We have a deal!”
“Now, there are some interesting options here. For example, we could collect DNA from politicians and bankers and journalists and then use the DNA to frame them in murder or rape cases; that’s a nice addition to our bag of dirty tricks. Public urinals or toilets might be one possible collection point. It shouldn’t be hard to get a DNA library on everyone in the US Congress, either. . . oh, right. No domestic activity allowed. . . but that doesn’t apply to private contractors, does it? They’re independent. I think. Whatever . . . where’s John Yoo when you need a good legal cover for unConstitutional activities, right? Alright, let’s do a line of blow and take a few more slugs of whiskey. What’s good for the country is good for us! chuckle, chuckle, chuckle. . . ”
And so it goes on, around and around, a futile parade of corruption, incompetence, and the reality of unintended consequences.
hey photosymbiosis … why do your CIA characters have British accents?
… right up until they used the term “blow” instead of “charlie” it sounded like either MI5 or MI6.
Yes. Every scenario you described and likely tons of others neither you nor I could possibly imagine.
The CIA vaccination charade – and subsequent fallout in terms of non-vaccinated children and the deaths of the administrators themselves – should have been enough to get them shut down in perpetuity. Unfortunately, in the cold calculus of whatever functions as a “world” for them, dead children are just collateral rubbish.
Hard to imagine what might actually have to happen to yield this result, but I hope that one day they get as totally fucked over as fate and the scales of justice can provide. Times a thousand.
Washington shrugged.
While there may be beneficial uses of this technology, you can be sure that, if things are allowed to proceed on their present course, it will be just another tool used to further the tyranny we’re living under!
Revolution is the only recourse!
robertsrevolution.net
How do they collect one or more samples of this epidural nano cream?
So the CIA just continues to secretly collect data from us in such quantities that once everything is properly analysed, thousands of years from now, they will conclude that there were 7 billion people living on earth in the year 2016, of which every individual was a tiny bit different than another, and yet the same.
But this type of data collection surely produces a lot of money for those who are “interested” in our safety which is, of course, the only thing the CIA is really interested in as almost every government/corporate power nowadays is (viz. money).
In the meantime 6 million children are dying from hunger in Ethiopia. Who cares?
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/04/drought-leaves-6-million-ethiopian-children-hungry-160408134745829.html
My DNA shows I came from apes. Theirs? Maybe crocks or rocks or aliens or maybe they don’t have any? Truth is so much stranger than fiction and this is byzzzzzaireeee truth. We do this while kids go hungry?
Those interested in pursuing some History of the C.I.A. and it’s connection with – umm, ADVERTISING! should check out any of the work of Edward Bernays – such as “FATHER OF SPIN”
http://www.dealoz.com/prod?isbn=0805067892&browse_id=10&rewrite=1
Holy shit batman people will believe anything they read online.
holy frick batman! people will believe the new york ho-media who perp wmd and get americans killed for zionista ambitions like yinon! what suckers.
Wow. Really creepy.
“CIA’s Venture Capital Arm…” woah, woah, woah, HOLD UP!! WHAT?!
In-Q-Tel is a “hybrid” governmental and private section entity similar to Fannie Mae, the National Park Foundation and in my belief – UNICOR (Federal Prison Industries). In-Q-Tel’s announced purpose is to “permit the CIA to invest in, and thereby encourage, corporations producing technology the agency believes it will need to perform its mission in thhe future.” It is “capitalized by $150 million in government funds” and is expected to be self sufficient.
The former CEO of In-Q-Tel sums up their goals: “The CIA and the rest of the government need to catch the entrepreneurial, risk-taking spirit that’s driving the Silicon Vally technology revolution.” They clearly want to push tech companies to make goods or services the CIA can use. Other agencies have created “non-profit venture capital corporations” including the Army and NASA.
Source for the above: Congressional Research Service, “The Quasi Government…” Dated June 2011
Northwestern did a more recent report called “In-Q-Tel: The CIA Agency as a Venture Capitalist” that contains lots of great information.
PURPOSE
* Envisioned as a platform to expand the R&D efforts of the CIA in the private sector, In-Q-Tel uses CIA-supplied funds to make strategic investments in startup companies developing commercially focused technologies that are of interest to the CIA and greater intelligence community.
HISTORY
* While the concept of a CIA-sponsored venture capital firm may seem odd, such an initiative derives from the exceptionally broad discretion granted to the U.S. intelligence community regarding the use of funds since 1775
* During the Cold War, the U-2 reconnaissance plane, the SR-71 reconnaissance plane, and the Corona spy satellite program emerged from this new focus on funding cutting-edge R&D programs….[Years Later George Tenet said that] “the CIA had once been a
“giant” in the area of science and technology, but “the dot-com revolution was passing us by. Private-sector technology was far outstripping our ability to keep pace with our targets.
* A novel approach suggested by Dr. Ruth David, the head of the Directorate of Science and Technology, caught Tenet’s eye. David proposed that the CIA outsource a portion of its R&D efforts to the private sector.
* The CIA approached Norman Augustine, the former chief executive officer (CEO) of the aerospace and defense company Lockheed Martin, to serve as the firm’s founder
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CIA & IN-Q-TEL
* Unlike [the Technology Innovation Program], which is a public-private partnership that functions more as a pool of government grant money than a venture capital fund, In-Q-Tel is arguably a true, independent venture capital firm….* However, characterizing In-Q-Tel solely as a venture capital firm is somewhat inaccurate. Indeed, In-Q-Tel have variously (and correctly) been called a “technology accelerator,” a “private nonprofit venture capital company,” as well as “the venture capital arm of the CIA.”…In-Q-Tel refers to itself as a “strategic investment firm.
* Business Executives for National Security (BENS)…[says] In-Q-Tel is most analogous to a corporate strategic venture capital entity – like those maintained by major technology firms.
* Regardless of the label, the important point is that In-Q-Tel, legally independent of the CIA, makes equity investments in private sector firms using government-supplied funds.
HOW IN-Q-TEL WORKS
* Critics of hybrid organizations such as In-Q-Tel “tend to consider the governmental and private sectors as being legally distinct, with relatively little overlap in behavioral norms.” Yet, this is the point of In-Q-Tel: the CIA recognizes the public and private sectors function very differently, particularly with respect to procurement.
* An office within the CIA, called the In-Q-Tel Interface Center (QIC), serves as the link between the CIA and In-Q-Tel.
* Like other venture capital firms, In-Q-Tel typically assumes an advisory position on a portfolio company’s board of directors. From this vantage point, In-Q-Tel acts as a general advisor to the company. The perceived benefit of being an investor in the company rather than simply a customer is that, if any changes are made to the company or its product(s), In-Q-Tel will promptly find out. As one of In-Q-Tel’s senior directors put it in 2004, “When you are [only] a customer, you are often the last to know.
So Ed asks the question then Nate conveniently answers. Do you both work for the CIA? I hope you both have a sense of humor.
It all sounds like Fascism. The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist philosophy.
1.”Everything in the state”. The Government is supreme and the country is all-encompasing, and all within it must conform to the ruling body, often a dictator.
2.”Nothing outside the state”. The country must grow and the implied goal of any fascist nation is to rule the world, and have every human submit to the government.
3.”Nothing against the state”. Any type of questioning the government is not to be tolerated. If you do not see things our way, you are wrong. If you do not agree with the government, you cannot be allowed to live and taint the minds of the rest of the good citizens.
It seems pretty close to fascism only in that our current state actually is what Sheldon Wolin termed Inverted totalitarianism that is different from classical forms of totalitarianism. It does not find its expression in a dictator, demagogue or charismatic leader, but in the faceless anonymity of the corporate state.
The whole picture is so spooked out it is hard to imagine that any student in college could even apply for jobs that are so secret they’re not even published. It’s probably very high pay and who you know which adds up to a large and growing secret economy. I would even venture that most congress persons are not aware of this. The massive operation prbly shows up in the budget as…. $300M new projects support.
So when Americans start saying “wait a minute” the congress persons who let this go thru with the “you can trust us we’re looking out for you and we know best” rationale, they get all twisted and start calling protesters all manner of bad things as if we the people have no business questioning their ______________.
Naturally Feinwolfenstein doesnt mind beating up on Americans about BDS because she knows what’s good for America better than the voters do.
Instead of America being saddled with one terroristic dictatorial looniebird like bashar al-assad we have 500+ of them and it seems to get worse every year.
Get married, have a child, live a quiet uninvolved regular life and 20 years later your child will come home one day and say s/he has a job as a tracking specialist and can tell you anything about every hour of your past dozen years. S/he will be happy and thrilled and you’ll be going WTF.
When we have nothing to defend but defense itself…
Somebody has spent time on Wikipedia today
Nope going there takes the fun out of research.
The same “principles” applied under Soviet communism. Tyranny comes with different labels.
Gross! Why would you want to work with a known enslavement tool of the US government, unless you believe in enslavement! In which case, why the hell are you slaves buying this sh!t? In the end, you both deserve each other and all that ends with it.
@j –
Yes, WHY would anyone want to work with such a nefarious outfit? And SHAME on anyone who would hawk this stuff. Now as to the slaves or sheeple who would buy this stuff: they MIGHT indeed believe in enslavement, but also they might be in denial that this could be a danger, or even totally clueless about what its real capabilities (and of course, potential scary uses) are. That’s why this is really important to get out!
jesus h….
just when you think you’ve heard it all. Does our gov get any creepier than this? 2 + 2 is 4. And crazy and crazy is crazier so yes, let’s imagine a moment.. how about commercial door handles that register fingerprints? Secreted breathalyzers built into your car aircon? Or sewer checkpoints that sample “the stuff” for drug testing. Or ammunition tally analyses to determine if you are hunting or shooting at people?(just to get the rednecks jumping).
Uncle Sam is going to have to change his slogan from Uncle Sam Wants You to Uncle Sam Wants to Know You then to Uncle Sam Wants to Know You Better.
crazy is as crazy does.
@barrabas –
Shhhhh – you might actually give them an idea they haven’t thought of already.
And this DOES creep me out.
oh i have ideas. but NOTHING compared to what Eric the Prince has come up with. I can picture him at a high level meeting now…
“Gentlemen, you are familiar with me and my team of talented troopers who can keep you in power. But let’s face it- human personnel and combat and casualties are very very expensive and as scary as they are, inefficient. Gentlemen, i can do two things for you right now today! I can give you more power and i can save you big money! Gentlemen, you would like F-30’s, migs, chinese J-20’s and russian T-50’s…. all very very expensive and more horsepower than you need….. Gentlemen, ……. Let me show you what i can do with a crop duster!!”
I suggest they get a better contract than the poor schmuck who collected DNA at the Bin Laden compound.
So when a suicide bomber blows himself up, the CIA can figure out what part of the world he’s from? Am I assuming this right?
More of the spooks figuring out about terrorism after the fact? Or figuring out if they had melanoma and would have died anyway?
Maybe it was for Petraeus to get help for the nasty ball itch he got from Paula Broadwell.
This article is extremely important and some of the comments below underscore how little people understand about genetics and their applications. On reading it I immediately got in touch with my SIL who sells skincare products as a side business. Fortunately, her company does no biological sample collection. I will share what I wrote with her. It’s pretty oversimplified but touches on the concerns everyone should examine each and every time they are asked to provide a biological sample. My background is in HIV research, which included collection for DNA.
Certain DNA may eventually be correlated with a predisposition towards socialism. If those at risk can be identified, treatment using intensive re-education may be possible. The alternative is to allow people’s natural tendencies to manifest themselves over time and end up with overflowing prisons. The CIA is offering its hand in friendship.
Jonah will be happy to hear this:
It’s been scientifically determined that committing violence is genetic.
The scientists have discovered in mice that when they convert to Islam or are born to a Muslim parent, they have this gene that compels them to commit violence.
The scientists further discovered that when the Muslim mice renounce their religion, that gene disappears.
Human study to follow soon.
After that, a vaccine will be easily developed to cure the Muslims, since they may renounce their religion only verbally and not in their hearts and minds, unlike the mice.
Yes, a “cure” with just a few minor side effects…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqsNR4_Bw0
Beni: I instantly scrolled down on this thread to see your comment, and you didn’t disappoint. Priceless!
In all probability, any incipient socialism can be eliminated cheaply and effectively by appropriate application of this corporation’s “detergent”, with which it can be washed right out. Education, re- or otherwise, is expensive.
Tacoma, WA police have just released composite images of two possible suspects in two separate 30-year old cold cases of murdered teenage girls. The sketches were made based on recent analysis of DNA evidence collected at the time of the murders.
The sketches are probability based but near photographic in detail.
THAT’S INSANE!
for many reasons.
1- dna is not going to give you age or weight or a whole lot of other muscular-facial shapes.
2- putting out such random images for various crimes can turn a reasonable society into a semi-paranoid state of apprehension
3- vigilantism gone wrong
4- introduction and enforcement of a policy that now suspects (very many look-alikes) are guilty until proven innocent with a dna test
5- screwed up dna testing that hurts innocent persons
that human collateral damage is unacceptable is a principle that America was founded on. The DOI and USC were the basis of law to protect the individual. Since then, dumb stupid ingnoramus lawmakers have engaged in the same barbaric practices of prescribing pain and punishment that has f’d up the planet since day one. And that DNA FACE BODY whatever is the con of the decade.
Oh but wait! just occurred to me, “Say, this dna is a close match to all these families. Let’s go round them up”.
Just wait until they tie facial recognition and DNA. Oh wait, that’s what they are doing …
As far as I can tell, currently the only thing stopping the police from doing this with all cases is the expense: $7000 per image.
This appears to be a true act of desperation, because 30 years have passed and, as barrabas notes (and as the article quotes police experts saying) there is no aging information. Both images are pegged to an arbitrary 25 years and they have made no attempt to age them a further 30 years.
As long as this is done with appropriate warrants and other authorization, the danger seems small. I don’t expect a witch hunt for middle-aged northwestern US white guys who had 80s hair in the 80s.
But the stakes are high. Automate this process and put it on a handheld device, and they’ll use it for every murder and rape case.
thank heavens for lucrative overpriced gov contracts.
i hear texas just created the “junk science law” which may stop the F…B…I… from using bitemarks. ouiji boards and tossed bones.
did i forget to include Mandatory blood sample from babies at birth for the DNA register?
control freak is as control freak does.
Thank you, Pedinska. One of the great benefits of the commentariat here is all the wicked smart people knowledgeable in diverse areas.
This is creepy as fuck.
That’s bad. In the UK we have lots of problems too, like landlords threatening, harassing and intimidating tenants. https://jackblueblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/how-landlords-are-using-threats-and-intimidation-to-get-around-eviction-legislation-in-the-uk/
I was under the impression that the CIA charter forbade any clandestine activity in the United States. Imagine “Homeland Security” with the current crew the Republicans have ginned up, very scary shit.
Will Donald Trump finally name Ted Nugent as his Vice President?
Yeah, but that’s sort of the problem:
1) Show me the secret law that governs this;
2) Show me how this law is actually interpreted;
3) Show me how people violating this law are meaningfully disciplined.
At the end of the day, conventions like “CIA doesn’t operate domestically” are bullshit with how things are run currently.
building 7
Stop the nonsense. Even mentioning this silliness marks you as a scientific illiterate — and it marks the “scientists” in the Troofer movement in the same way.
Questions and Answers about the NIST WTC 7 Investigation
Your link contains abundant fraudulent statements and it amounts to pure scientific fraud. It is what you would expect after a coup dEtat.
Utter fabrication. Had one column failed, say by demolition or act of god, the building would have tipped in the direction of the failure. Any first year engineering student knows this because of Engineering Statics (essentially 3D trigonometry with balanced forces). The Murrah building in OK City withstood a massive, 5000 lb blast right in front and it just lost the facade. That is why we build with structural steel; it’s amazingly strong and flexible stuff. Steel can be flexed within its design parameters an infinite number of times without fatigue. That means a steel frame building essentially may stand until it’s knocked down by design, as they were on 911.
I appreciate your concern but you should understand that there is a mammoth amount of propaganda put out by power players who do not want people to realize that the same people who orchestrated the demolition of building 7 accidentally notified the media about it’s collapse 20 minutes before it actually hapened.
I urge you to get the facts about the building and it’s tenants like the cia and their reason for being there.
One of the major problems in our democracy is that people like you and nuf are permitted to vote. Consequently, I have little hope for us.
Dunning-Kruger strikes again.
Undertaker as Attorney General?
Um… it’s the Democrats doing these 4A violations NOW.
Why do Dems hate the Constitution so much? This is an act of treason.
The Bill of Rights is non-negotiable.
“Current crew of Republicans”…. Wake up my friend, it’s both sides – This isn’t a football game. Your ‘Colors’ are childish and foolish in light of the threats that are present within our world at this time. Do a little homework and you’ll find that both ‘teams’ eat out of the same hand.
Can someone explain how (or if) the DNA would get back to the CIA (or anyone)? Or are they just looking to license a technology to swab DNA from skin more effectively?
The DNA itself is not what is shared. It’s the sequencing database that’s critical and sharing databases is not hard at all.
Maybe I missed something … but why would a cosmetic company have a sequencing database? They’re selling some kind of gel, some kind of pen, they have a patented formula, they don’t claim to make one for your particular genome. DNA being what it is, I can picture there could be some trick to get it, but if the trick becomes known sometimes it gets stopped.
@Pedinska –
That doesn’t really answer the question. I don’t believe that the article answered it either. Actual DNA or data as sequencing, do you have any idea how this would indeed somehow get to CIA or other LE agencies.
Also, I really loved your comment above, and it seemed you had a quote? is that your own or do you have a source. It really laid out the dangers and should be widely disseminated. Any help on that? Thanks!
Just Spitballing
Perhaps the cream has properties which allow the dna and/or dna sequencing it marks and reveals acgt strings to be identified collected and transmitted remotely from electronic devices or networks a few inches, feet away from our faces. Devices we’d tend to use every day.
Once they achieve that initial end though (collecting your unique acgt sequence) any future use of the product voluntarily (because we now know about this version of it ) or involuntarily (because we havent discovered the AllBrands shaving cream version of it yet) must have some ongoing utility to them. Perhaps an epigenetic component tracking how your acgt sequence changes over time (information transmitted out for collection) or perhaps something shortening your telomeres (information transmitted in for a specific effect)
@Christian C. Holmer –
…remotely, eh…ya know, that makes me wonder if this has some very microscopic rfid chips or something like that in it.
It’s scary to think anyone would use this voluntarily, but EXTREMELY scary to think we may run across this INVOLUNTARLY. And we wouldn’t know about this except for articles such as this, which a don’t reach everyone. We know now about this; what is there we DON’T know about is a great point. I shudder to think of the uses this could be put to.
…or something.
Quantum Mechanics. The Stuff Dreams Are Made Of.
“Still, little is publicly revealed about the use of In-Q-Tel-backed ventures and their relevance to the goals of intelligence agencies.”
So everything should be transparent in your ideology? Life must be extremely frustrating to you with that lofty and unrealistic expectation.
Benito’s comment made this story worth reading though so there’s that…
Where does the author say or even vaguely imply that he wants everything to be transparent?
Authoritarian toadies to the establishment/state , like you, would think that’s what Fang is saying. That’s all they’d see. Authoritarians lickspittles are like that.
www becomes operative under Clinton.
in-q-tel formed under Clinton
Just a little reminder on the chronology of all this: the first email accounts were available during the Clinton administration. In-Q-Tel was formed during the Clinton administration.
i have always suspected them as a one world order type. one big happy world. one currency. one ruling governing body. HELLO TPP.
Yet more evidence on top of the already great body of evidence that we NOW live in the dystonian future of si-si novels.
The control now exercised by the Imperial powers is becoming evver more complete.
The really devastating, yet unavoidable, conclusion is that is too late now to do anything about it the Imperial power is so great and their access to technology far more advanced than pathetic iPhones is an advantage unlikely to be defeated.
After the LuxLeaks Jean-Claud Junker was appointed head of the EC and nothing what-so-ever happened, Luxembourg is still in the business of providing the means for the world’s most wealth and the corporations they own to evade tax.
Now there are the Panama Papers where all the political leaders “have nothing to hide” and nothing again will change.
Snowden, LuxLeaks, Panama Papers, Wikileaks diplomatic cables, and this kind of exposure are little more than minor irritants for Imperial power.
That’s where the gov-gone-wilders get their ideas. They see a movie and say “Hey, we can do that!”. Idiots running the planet. Very Scary.
Resurface and glow for under a few dollars, lather up some decent bar soap as dove, and wash face or any body skin, rinse with hot warm as you can, then lather again some bar soap, adding a spoon of baking soda, and gently clean skin with this paste, rinse warm/hot again. Can even be used carefully around eyes! Skin is the largest body organ, it is an Excretion organ.
This could work. I believe the locals in Abbottabad are now somewhat suspicious of DNA testing masquerading as hepatitis B vaccinations. But they might go for a free facial cleaning treatment.
What girl wouldn’t? Heck, I’ll take a free facial too. Free shit for everybody!
It’s the same business model as the internet – give away services in exchange for information. There’s a new faCIAl treatment center coming to a convenient location near you – and the first session is free!
What private company wouldn’t want a USG contract; they’ve been known buy hammers @ $150/ea?
As shown in this article, it has become increasingly apparent that a private-public partnership is controlling the American federal government and its agenda:
http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2016/03/americas-unseen-government.html
Partisan politicking is completely irrelevant and is just a distraction for Main Street America.
There’s no such thing as private – public partnership , big corporations run shit . You sound like an Illuminati Truther.
Then what do you call the Federal Reserve and its relationship to the Federal government? If you aren’t sure look it up before you comment
It’s America’s Central bank, sure it’s probably corrupt and shitty however it supposed to be controlled by none corrupt people (public) . It’s supposed to be publicly controlled , that’s all I’m trying to say and it shouldn’t be called the federal reserve it should be called Central Bank Of America. And don’t forget it’s your fault that your central bank is corrupt, because your lazy isn’t look shit up.
How can you say no to partnership. Its such a beautiful idea.
P3’s as they call them, in every state – every Governor sanctions this it seems – part of Regionalism. :(