STRIP MALLS, MOVIE theaters, schools, grocery stores — the images in Speaking Is Difficult, the new film by Field of Vision co-creator AJ Schnack, are ordinary but serene. Wherever we live, these are the places where we routinely expose ourselves to the wider world. The film punctures this calm familiarity with grainy audio documenting past traumas. The details we can ascertain from these 911 recordings are sparse — a white male shooter, an unknown number wounded — but we all know how to fill in the blanks. In one sense, we’ve seen this movie before.
As the title suggests, these public massacres are hard to talk about. This is not just because they are frightening, horrific, and unpredictable, but also because in empirical terms we just don’t know that much about them. “There is a dearth of comprehensive, authoritative data on multiple-victim homicide incidents, either committed wholly or partially with firearms,” the Congressional Research Service lamented in its July 2015 report on what have recently become known as “mass shootings.” Given all that we don’t know, how can we hope to answer Gabrielle Giffords’s call to action at the end of Speaking Is Difficult, to prevent the kind of killing that very nearly took her life?
“Speaking Is Difficult,” a new film by AJ Schnack.
As the CRS was preparing its report, amateur researchers, frustrated by the lack of information about these seemingly regular massacres, began to take matters into their own hands. In the first major real-time effort to compile a record of every mass shooting in the United States, a group of anti-gun Reddit users found that these events occurred once per day, on average, in 2015. The Washington Post picked up their findings in August, and for the rest of last year major news outlets ran headlines declaring that mass shootings were happening every day in the United States.
But was it true? That depends on how you define “mass shooting.” Because these researchers counted any event in which four or more people were shot, the vast majority of their database entries appear conceptually distinct from the largely random public killings documented in Speaking Is Difficult. They include armed robberies, gang shootouts, and familicides. As of the end of last year, shootings in private residences accounted for more than two-thirds of the entries, and the majority of cases involved the murder of a family member or intimate partner. Very few of the shootings made the national news.
For the past three years, researchers at Mother Jones have been maintaining a more precise database of mass shootings in the United States, one that uses a number of criteria to exclude the huge majority of cases involving domestic violence, gang activity, and other interpersonal conflicts. As of March 2016, they have identified 75 mass shootings since 1982. That 34-year total is less than a quarter of the number news outlets regularly claimed were occurring in 2015 alone.
While this lower figure might seem to deflate claims that mass shootings in the United States are on the rise, a statistical study of the Mother Jones database by a team of researchers from Harvard’s School of Public Health found otherwise. Their analysis determined that although the frequency of public mass shootings remained relatively steady for almost 30 years beginning in 1983, the frequency tripled in 2011, from an average of once every 200 days to once every 64 days. Given this finding, recent media pronouncements that we live in an “age of mass shootings” do not seem so far fetched.
Although the Mother Jones dataset provides some evidence for the previously inchoate sense that these public shootings constitute a kind of epidemic, it does not bring us much closer to understanding how we might prevent such massacres. The statistical method used by the Harvard researchers assumes that some underlying process is responsible for the frequency of shootings, and the point is to correlate the moments when the frequency changes — in this case, late 2011 — with real-world events that may have caused the change. For example, a point in time at which a certain surgical error becomes less frequent can be correlated with the introduction of a new sterilization method.
But is it possible to identify an underlying process responsible for America’s mass shootings? The Harvard researchers themselves acknowledge that the number of potential variables in play makes answering this question nearly impossible, at least for now. However their findings do allow them to cast aspersions on some popular explanations for the rise of mass shootings, given that there were no widespread changes to mental health or access to guns in late 2011, when the frequency of shootings tripled. For these and other reasons, the researchers are skeptical that universal background checks would be a decisive deterrent. And research shows that a renewed assault weapons ban would have almost no discernible impact. Psychological profiling does not get us much further. While mass shooters tend to be white, male, and alienated, those traits in combination produce so many false positives that they have no predictive value.
Emergency personnel move former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords after she was shot outside a shopping center in Tucson, Ariz., on Jan. 8, 2011.
Photo: James Palka/AP
But before we despair that we cannot answer Gabrielle Giffords’s plea, we would do well to situate mass shootings within the larger context of gun violence in the United States. Even among gun homicides that leave four or more dead, public shootings were outnumbered by both familicide and felony-related shootings by a 2-to-1 margin in the years 1999 through 2013. Altogether, more than 30,000 Americans die annually from gun violence. While about 30 of those victims (0.1 percent) typically die in the high-profile public massacres covered by major news outlets, over 20,000 take their own lives. Of the remaining roughly 10,000 annual gun homicide victims, the majority probably knew their killer. In short, there is plenty of other gun violence for us to worry about.
Gun control opponents will point out that aggregate gun violence has declined precipitously (along with all violent crime) since a peak in the early 1990s, but that doesn’t change the fact that levels of gun violence are higher in the U.S. than in any other developed democracy. To make sense of this fact, it helps to consider the possibility that the U.S. doesn’t have a single “gun violence problem” but instead has a constellation of interrelated but distinct gun violence problems. When we disaggregate the sobering figures above, the patterns that emerge suggest policy solutions that could save thousands of lives.
It’s often noted that black men, who account for 6 percent of the U.S. population, account for half of U.S. gun homicide victims. But this figure itself obscures much more specific phenomena. Sociological research indicates that the murders in black communities are largely concentrated not simply in particular urban neighborhoods, but even on particular blocks and within a small number of generally identifiable social networks. (In other words, this is hardly the conservative moralist’s fantasy of a monolithic “black-on-black crime.”) As a consequence, our ability to predict the perpetrators, victims, and locations of everyday urban gun violence is miles ahead of our ability to predict the public massacres that make national headlines. Cities like Boston, Indianapolis, and Lowell, Massachusetts, saw precipitous drops in gun homicide when they embraced a strategy known as “focused deterrence,” which harnesses this predictive power to stage community interventions targeted at those most likely to be involved in gun violence.
Another type of gun violence that we understand well enough to stage specific interventions against is violence against women. In the U.S., women are 11 times more likely to be shot and killed than their counterparts in other high-income countries. These murders typically occur at the hands of a family member or intimate partner. A robust body of research demonstrates that guns are a significant risk factor for homicide in domestic violence incidents, where the presence of a gun is 500 percent more likely to result in a homicide than one without. Legislative measures that take guns out of the hands of known abusers and stalkers could end America’s shameful rate of femicide.
State officials from both political parties are beginning to recognize that limiting firearm access in high-risk situations can save lives. Over the past few years, more than a dozen states have passed measures tightening gun prohibitions on known stalkers and abusers — and the normally intransigent National Rifle Association has often cooperated. The recent success in this arena shows that policies targeted at very specific types of gun violence, rather than gun violence generally, can sidestep the insurmountable opposition that reliably defeats more universal gun control efforts in Congress. The success of the earliest “focused deterrence” efforts targeted at urban gun homicide in specific cities likewise demonstrates the political and practical benefits of local, targeted interventions. Speaking about the trauma of gun violence is difficult. Ending gun violence, in its many forms, doesn’t have to be.
Top photo: Law enforcement officials display crime scene photographs during a press briefing at the Inland Regional Center on Dec. 2, 2015, near the scene of a mass shooting that left 14 people dead.
“But is it possible to identify an underlying process responsible for America’s mass shootings? The Harvard researchers themselves acknowledge that the number of potential variables in play makes answering this question nearly impossible, at least for now”
Not quite. There those, few though they may be, who know the real underlying cause of all manner of violence plaguing humanity. Of those I believe knows better, Dr. Steven James Bartlett is one of them and it’s quite frustrating that his many decades of research has not been given the attention it deserves. I believe everyone at the Intercept ought to read his book. I’ve lost count how many passages I’ve highlighted. The following is one of them:
“The fortitude and obduracy of systems of belief are their strength but also their downfall. Conservative thinking-adherence to and defense of conventions that are dominant at any particular time-therefore automatically brings with it a limited field of vision and a self-chosen myopia. If any blame can he laid for periods of slowed, nonexistent, or retrograde intellectual and scientific development, for periods of un-creative, sluggish, and at times imperceptible growth, that blame can he placed both on the natural human unwillingness to call into question beliefs that apparently have served well enough in the past and on the deeply entrenched disinclination nation to step outside of the preferred category set. Individuals who are willing to do these things tend to be few, and they should expect to meet correspondingly deeply rooted resistance, which of course indeed they have throughout the past”
Steven James Bartlett. Normality Does Not Equal Mental Health: The Need to Look Elsewhere for Standards of Good Psychological Health (Kindle Locations 132-137). Kindle Edition.
The issue is not so much guns, racism, inequality, injustice and all the rest. It’s
our inability to realized that what we regard as normal is not normal-it’s a pathology. It is not until we put into serious question our limited perception of reality that we will see just how much we have yet to discover regarding truths we believe were privy only to enlightened masters. As Dr. Erich Fromm said, the freedom FROM our normality is the freedom TO see ourselves and our place in the world in ways that can be so trans-formative, it would be tantamount to a spiritual awakening. Despite all the progress we made in medicine and technology, no amount of it will free us from our self-chosen myopia i.e. our normality. So if anyone at The Intercept is reading this, PLEASE find out if you could interview -at length- Dr. Bartlett. I have a copy of his book I’d be happy to send you -free.
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I was prepared to hate this article and the video, which I encourage you to watch. They are both well done.
I do not agree, however, “that we must do something.” I am not in the habit of being hapless or helpless, and I do not expect police or any other white knights to save me. So I come to a different conclusion: if you are not armed, then you are prey.
More guns, guns in the hands of trained and licensed owners, owners who defend themselves at the point of attack, are the only solution that I see.
When firearm ownership and licensed concealed carry so saturates American society that shooters know that they will be gunned down immediately, we may see a decline in gun violence. May. I do not think that any other deterrent will work.
I do not think that there is any way to prevent criminals or the mentally ill from acquiring weapons if they want them. In any case, it makes no sense to criminalize gun owners who obey the law. We are not the problem. We are the solution.
Gun control is, as this article points out, too blunt a measure, and it will never be tolerated by the American people. The day that Americans accept gun control will be the day that we need to call ourselves something else. For we will no longer be Americans.
Indeed, Americans and our guns are inseparable. The political chastisement that befell gun control advocates in Colorado underscored the point that voters will hold accountable any politician who attempts to take our guns. Hence our Congressional gridlock.
We will not be disarmed. You may not like the 2d Amendment, but you should read it again, and now. Focus on the key words: “Shall not be infringed.”
I advise you not to waste your time trying, unless you own shares of firearms and ammunition manufacturers, because every time that gun control advocates float a proposal, America responds by buying more guns and stockpiling more ammo.
New York is illustrative: magazine bans and gun registration are widely ignored. Good luck trying to arrest everybody. Do not be surprised when otherwise law abiding citizens defend themselves against a tyrannical state.
I understand that not all people are capable of defending themselves. Some Americans know only how to be victims. Many Americans believe in nanny state solutions. Many others crave idealistic Utopias that bear no resemblance to reality. Not me.
Those of us who refuse to be victimized must arm ourselves, and we must be prepared to gun down active shooters.
It is imperative that local governments administer standardized national gun laws and regulations for those of us who choose to protect ourselves, so that we can kill active shooters legally. No need to get fancy: self defense statutes can be adapted. There should be no doubt about when it is legal to shoot, and when we should hold our fire.
We may, in fact, wish to offer tax rebates or other incentives to facilitate firing ranges and shooting instruction courses for civilians. Such courses should incorporate “shoot / no-shoot” drills.
I do think that firearms instructors should be regulated and certified. NRA standards are a good start. The wannabes and fakes must be regulated out of existence. They endanger everyone. Professional instructors should meet standards. Concealed carriers should likewise meet standardized measures of competence.
Above all, laws should be passed which immunize gun owners defending themselves from legal sanction. And surviving perpetrators, meaning active shooters that we shoot but fail to kill, or their surviving families, should not be permitted to sue gun owners legitimately defending themselves from gun violence.
Gun owners should be held strictly accountable for accidental discharges. A six month license suspension and obligatory recertification, assuming that no one was harmed, should work. But licensed gun owners killing active shooters should not fear prosecution or lawsuits. They should be celebrated.
More guns. National concealed carry. Standardized laws and regulations. Very few locations should be gun-free zones. Because those are the locations where active shooters will go.
I endorse concealed carry on college campuses and in all commercial enterprises. And in church. Because as Obama observed, we are in love with our guns and our religion.
Firearms safety and familiarization were once taught in junior high and high schools. We should resume that. Shooting clubs should be as common as chess clubs.
Kids pass a significant rite of passage when they get their driver’s licenses at age 16. We should implement another, passing a standardized course for concealed carry at age 18.
America needs to toughen up. Now pardon me. I need to clean my guns. With liberal tears.
I’m waiting for the day before Christmas when the alarm goes off at some Mall exit door,
potentially announcing that a store tag is leaving the premises without being de-activated – and
as the alarm alerting against shoplifted merchandise screams the bullets start flying. Everyone and their brother in the store is, like good American patriots, armed, locked and loaded. Ready for bear.
Customer Joe Rangerguy hears the alarm, sees someone near the exit door where the alarm is
sounding off, so he pulls his pistol and starts shooting because he perceives a ‘shoplifter’
fleeing with stolen goods, the $9.99 value of which will probably put some Mall store owner out of
business and cause Rangerguy to pay higher taxes.
Behind Joe Rangerguy, Customer Missy Prissy grabs her tiny chrome plated Cluck .25 caliber semi-
auto out of her purse, reads the directions she rubber-banded to the gun, scrapes off a chunk of
hardened chewing gum so she can work the slide, then starts shooting at Rangerguy, who she has
identified as Another Crazed Mall Shooter.
Nearby at The Ammo Store checkout, Customer Theodore Nuggert looks out and sees the lady wearing the head scarf (Missy Prissy) who is pulling a huge handgun out of her huge handbag, so he determines she must be a Muslim Suicide Terrorist – therefore the bag must be an Improvised Explosive Device, so he immediately shittes his pants and duckwalks as fast as he can away from the scene, forgetting to
pay for the thousand rounds of ammo he was about to buy.
Meanwhile, another store customer, hearing the alarm and the shots and seeing the duckwalking
smelly person with a large quantity of ammunition under his arm, pulls his licensed Concealed
Carry firearm and proceeds to shoot a full magazine of sixteen rounds, drops that mag and reloads
and shoots another sixteen rounds. The sound of his own firearm scares the bejeezus out of him,
and his bullets go everywhere. Luckily he misses every one of the thirty-two first-graders on a
school field trip to see the ASPCA Adoption Day Baby Kittens display just inside that Mall exit.
Only nine of the kittens were seriously injured and six killed outright. Property damage was
limited to two holes in the seat of a duckwalking customer’s baggy pants, which dripped a thick
yellow liquid of unknown but pungent origin.
When the police arrived, it was determined the alarm went off due to the red Salvation Army iron
donation kettle being placed too close to the Mall exit door. The Red Kettle attendant, a black
teen high school honor student recently awarded a full academic scholarship to MIT for his
success in creating a cure for cancer, was detained for aiding and abetting shoplifting and
attempted murder and assaulting a policeman by waving a small ringing brass bell. He was quickly
subdued by eighteen cops and two dogs, then beaten unconscious for the officers’ safety.
Unfortunately he was shot in the head several times while trying to escape, unconscious and
handcuffed, from the back of a locked paddy wagon with no inside door handles.
The day after Christmas Day, the survivors and their families and their new kittens got together
(well, most of them, anyway) and sang Christmas carols and thanked Jesus, who did not think he
did all that much, being just the janitor who had to clean up the bloody dead kittens and Ted
Nuggert’s smelly yellow pants residue.
Later, Jesus himself was arrested, for suspected identity theft, and suspicion of taking a
minimum wage janitor job away from some real American. His Father refused to post Jesus bail,
saying his Son needed to learn a lesson.
I was prepared to hate this article and the video, which I encourage you to watch. They are both well done.
I do not agree, however, “that we must do something.” I am not in the habit of being hapless or helpless, and I do not expect police or any other white knights to save me. So I come to a different conclusion: if you are not armed, then you are prey.
More guns, guns in the hands of trained and licensed owners, owners who defend themselves at the point of attack, are the only solution that I see.
When firearm ownership and licensed concealed carry so saturates American society that shooters know that they will be gunned down immediately, we may see a decline in gun violence. May.
I do not think that there is any way to prevent criminals or the mentally ill from acquiring weapons if they want them. In any case, it makes no sense to criminalize gun owners who obey the law. We are not the problem. We are the solution.
Gun control is, as this article points out, too blunt a measure, and it will never be tolerated by the American people. The day that Americans accept gun control will be the day that we need to call ourselves something else. For we will no longer be Americans.
The political chastisement that befell gun control advocates in Colorado underscored the point that voters will hold accountable any politician who attempts to take our guns.
We will not be disarmed. You may not like the 2d Amendment, but you should read it again, and now. Focus on the key words: “Shall not be infringed.” I advise you not to waste your time trying, unless you own shares of firearms and ammunition manufacturers, because every time that gun control advocates float a proposal, America responds by buying more guns and stockpiling more ammo.
New York is illustrative: magazine bans and gun registration are widely ignored. Good luck trying to arrest everybody. Do not be surprised when otherwise law abiding citizens defend themselves against a tyrannical state.
I understand that not all people are capable of defending themselves. Some Americans know only how to be victims. Many Americans believe in nanny state solutions. Many others crave idealistic Utopias that bear no resemblance to reality. Not me.
Those of us who refuse to be victimized must arm ourselves, and we must be prepared to gun down active shooters. It is imperative that local governments administer standardized national gun laws and regulations for those of us who choose to protect ourselves, so that we can kill active shooters legally. No need to get fancy: self defense statutes can be adapted. There should be no doubt about when it is legal to shoot, and when we should hold our fire.
We may, in fact, wish to offer tax rebates or other incentives to facilitate firing ranges and shooting instruction courses for civilians. I do think that firearms instructors should be regulated and certified. NRA standards are a good start. The wannabes and fakes must be regulated out of existence. They endanger everyone. Professional instructors should meet standards. Concealed carriers should likewise meet standardized measures of competence.
Above all, laws should be passed which immunize gun owners defending themselves from legal sanction. And surviving perpetrators, meaning active shooters that we shoot but fail to kill, or their surviving families, should not be permitted to sue gun owners legitimately defending themselves from gun violence. Gun owners should be held strictly accountable for accidental discharges. A six month license suspension and obligatory recertification, assuming that no one was harmed, should work. But licensed gun owners killing active shooters should not fear prosecution or lawsuits. They should be celebrated.
More guns. National concealed carry. Standardized laws and regulations. Very few locations should be gun-free zones. Because those are the locations where active shooters will go. I endorse concealed carry on college campuses and in all commercial enterprises. And in church. Because as Obama observed, we are in love with our guns and our religion.
Firearms safety and familiarization were once taught in junior high and high schools. We should resume that. Shooting clubs should be as common as chess clubs. Kids pass a significant rite of passage when they get their driver’s licenses at age 16. We should implement another, passing a standardized course for concealed carry at age 18.
America needs to toughen up. Now pardon me. I need to clean my guns. With liberal tears.
Why is the USA responsible for so many mass shootings beyond its borders? Take Mexico for example where a vast number of people have been killed in recent years–and guns generally are illegal in Mexico? Better, what about Libya where so many civilians were recently killed by NATO. Better still we have Iraq where it is still going on. And Syria where the US is apparently still supplying ISIS with munitions. Beyond that we have the drones of which Obama is so proud which kill civilians regularly. These mass shootings, bombings, dronings greatly out number the few that occur in the USA. This almost false emphasis on the local ones is similar to the false emphasis on climate change while all but ignoring the far more dangerous radiation problem which each day gets worse and which can and perhaps will exterminate life on this planet. It looks like it is intentional to get the American people occupied with little problems which may have no real solution instead of the big ones which do have but which would cut seriously into the profits of the People, i.e. corporations. As for the local mass shootings psychiatric medications may be a big part of it; now though we may be headed towards terrorism carried out by the newly arrived refugees/immigrants who do not at all aspire to be Americans.
Mental illness is pervasive. Why would anyone trust the exact same people to “fix” the climate or “fix” healthcare that are killing thousands of civilians in endless wars, violating laws, destroying the environment, letting financial fraud go unpunished, and on and on…
Rampage: The Social Roots of School Shootings
by Katherine S. Newman, Cybelle Fox, David Harding, Jal Mehta, Wendy Roth
Not a bad article, considering the complexity of the problem and the tendency for most writers to fall back on their own bias. Thomason did a much better job than most journalists would have.
I agree that “focused deterrence” efforts targeted at urban gun homicide have been very successful in a few cities and will likely be used in many more cities.
I would however urge caution on pushing laws that supposedly disarm (male) abusers. These laws are relatively new and I don’t believe we have any data on their effectiveness. My own guess is that slapping an abusive man with an order to turn his guns over to the local police department will just make him more insanely angry and perhaps more likely to harm the people we are trying to protect. It is also obvious that an adult male human of average size and strength does not need a firearm to kill or maim the average adult women if sufficiently motivated, ie: enraged, intoxicated, off his meds.
Before we jump on the bandwagon for these simplistic anti-abuse laws that target guns rather than abusers, I think we should wait to see if the states that have already passed them see a reduction in domestic violence.
Dr. Michael S. Brown
Doctors for Responbible Gun Ownership, http://www.DRGO.US
Big events in 2011 (from a U.S.-centric perspective): end of Iraq War, OBL killed, and the Arab Spring (and the whole Syria and Libya debacles).
Not sure how I would connect those dots to mass shootings, though.
On another note, I don’t understand how we look to the government to solve mass shootings. Obama will get up there and shed a tear for Oregon college students but he never cries about all the young people he’s personally ordered to be killed. Let’s not look to the chief perpetrators of mass shootings in the world to cure our mass shooting problem.
Another article on bonding and oxytosin.
Of Human Bonding
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: July 2, 2006 New York times opinion page.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/opinion/02brooks.html?_r=0
Excerpts:
If I had $37 billion to give to charity, I’d give some of it to a foundation that would invent an Oxytocin Meter. That way we could predict who is headed for success and who for failure. We could figure out which organizations are thriving and which are sick.
If I had $37 billion, I would focus it on the crucial node where attachment skills are formed: the parental relationship during the first few years of life. I’d invest much of it with organizations, like Circle of Security, that help at-risk mothers and fathers develop secure bonds with their own infants, instead of just replicating the behaviors of their own parents. I’d focus on the real resource crisis that afflicts the country. It’s not the oil shortage. It’s the oxytocin shortage.
Food for thought, invest in childcare, a little more love in formative years a lot less crime?
Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2004 Dec;1036:106-27.
Biological aspects of social bonding and the roots of human violence.
Pedersen CA1.
Author information
1Department of Psychiatry, The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 27599-7160, USA. Cort_Pedersen@med.unc.edu
Abstract
The brain systems that motivate humans to form emotional bonds with others probably first evolved to mobilize the high-quality maternal care necessary for reproductive success in placental mammals. In these species, the helplessness of infants at birth and their dependence upon nutrition secreted from their mothers’ bodies (milk) and parental body heat to stay warm required the evolution of a new motivational system in the brain to stimulate avid and sustained mothering behavior. Other types of social bonds that emerged subsequently in placental mammals, in particular monogamous bonds between breeding pairs, appear to have evolved from motivational brain systems that stimulate maternal behavior. This chapter focuses on aspects of the evolution and neurobiology of maternal and pair bonding and associated behavioral changes that may provide insights into the origins of human violence. The roles of the neuropeptides oxytocin and vasopressin as well as the neurotransmitter dopamine will be emphasized. Maternal and pair bonding are accompanied by increased aggressiveness toward perceived threats to the object of attachment as well as diminished fear and anxiety in stressful situations. The sustained closeness with mother required for the survival of infant mammals opened a new evolutionary niche in which aspects of the mother’s care became increasingly important in regulating development in offspring. The quantity and quality of maternal care received during infancy determines adult social competence, ability to cope with stress, aggressiveness, and even preference for addictive substances. Indeed, the development of neurochemical systems within the brain that regulate mothering, aggression, and other types of social behavior, such as the oxytocin and vasopressin systems, are strongly affected by parental nurturing received during infancy. Evidence will be reviewed that the neural circuitry and neurochemistry implicated in studies of lower mammals also facilitate primate/human interpersonal bonding. It is hypothesized that neural bonding systems may also be important for the development in individuals of loyalty to the social group and its culture. Neglect and abuse during early life may cause bonding systems to develop abnormally and compromise capacity for rewarding interpersonal relationships and commitment to societal and cultural values later in life. Other means of stimulating reward pathways in the brain, such as drugs, sex, aggression, and intimidating others, could become relatively more attractive and less constrained by concern about violating trusting relationships. The ability to modify behavior based on negative experiences may be impaired. Unmet needs for social bonding and acceptance early in life might increase the emotional allure of groups (gangs, sects) with violent and authoritarian values and leadership. Social neurobiology has the potential to provide new strategies for treating and preventing violence and associated social dysfunction.
Good article that ask the hard questions. This is more a human problem than a tool/gun problem. Gets pretty complicated and defies simplistic answers such as arm to the teeth or confiscate scary guns.
In answer WakeUpAmerica first commit:
Review “Childhood’s End” by Arthur C. Clarke, May 19, 2015 Jeffrey Keeten. “we still need the growl of the Sabretooth tiger coming from just beyond the edge of the firelight. We still need to be capable of picking up a club and saying “here kitty, kitty, kitty.”
Men evolved to defend their person, family and tribe. Men can refocus this behavior I was both a Special Forces soldier for 3 years and as a scientist who fought in the war on Cancer declared by Richard Nixon for over thirty, same kind of energy.
Self preservation is a natural behavior. Men and some women to varying degree are programmed for violence when this is miss directed by ” Mental illness, greed, ignorance, lack of empathy, irrational passion, manipulation, lack of options” (Eman) it can result in a crime against civilized society. On a larger scale this can cause righteous or unrighteous war. If women believe they are not capable of violence let someone endanger their child and the she-wolf will pounce from the liar.
There are some good studies on apes. Chimpanzees are more aggressive and may even wage war. Bonobos a second species of ape that are just as closely related to us as chimpanzees and are for the most part “lovers not fighters.”
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150811-do-animals-fight-wars
There are also good studies on biochemistry that show oxytosin to be a “love molecule” than contributes to cooperation and perhaps peace.
http://nobaproject.com/modules/biochemistry-of-love
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3537144/
Good thinking persons article on the scope of gun violence. Gets pretty complicated and defies simplistic answers such as arm to the teeth or confiscate scary guns.
In answer WakeUpAmerica first commit:
Review “Childhood’s End” by Arthur C. Clarke, May 19, 2015 Jeffrey Keeten. “we still need the growl of the Sabretooth tiger coming from just beyond the edge of the firelight. We still need to be capable of picking up a club and saying “here kitty, kitty, kitty.”
Men evolved to defend their person, family and tribe. Men can refocus this behavior I was both a Special Forces soldier for 3 years and as a scientist who fought in the war on Cancer declared by Richard Nixon for over thirty, same kind of energy.
Self preservation is a natural behavior. Men and some women to varying degree are programmed for violence when this is miss directed by ” Mental illness, greed, ignorance, lack of empathy, irrational passion, manipulation, lack of options” (Eman) it can result in a crime against civilized society. On a larger scale this can cause righteous or unrighteous war. If women believe they are not capable of violence let someone endanger their child and the she wolf will pounce from the liar.
There are some good studies on apes. Chimpanzees are more aggressive and may even wage war. Bonobos a second species of ape that are just as closely related to us as chimpanzees and are for the most part “lovers not fighters.”
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150811-do-animals-fight-wars
There are also good studies on biochemistry that show oxytosin to be a “love molecule” than contributes to cooperation.
http://nobaproject.com/modules/biochemistry-of-love
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3537144/
This article makes a very basic mistake, that is that it only looks at the method for criminal violence. It is a basic fact that criminals (and mass killers) will use the method that is most available.
Comparing “gun violence” in the US to “gun violence” in countries that have very few guns is a worthless comparison.
We should be comparing “criminal violence” between countries if we really want to gain some understanding.
When “criminal violence” is compared we find that the US is above average. In fact if we would remove the very dense liberal cities, like Chicago, we would be in the best five in the world.
There is no such thing as a “gun death” and you act as though none of these people could have been killed in the absence of guns. You are naive.
In the absence of guns the criminal element prevails over the law abiding. That’s a world that I would rather not live in.
Do you have data to back up that argument, or is it just based on supposition and editorials from “American Rifleman”?
There seem to be many societies around where the absence of pervasive gun ownership has not resulted in society collapsing under a wave of crime and chaos.
On one hand, there are indeed two different trend lines for firearm vs. non-firearm homicide in the US: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/m6227a1f1.gif
On the other, it’s not fair to compare countries with the US without accounting for differences in culture and demographic makeup, as violence and murder vary wildly with it: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/su6001a14f.gif
Break it down further by age and you get this for age 15-29: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/su6203a28f2.gif
And another for ages 10-24: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/m6227a1f3.gif
Look at how the “Total” line changes over time compared with the constituent groups, and compare that change over time with the first two graphs presented. Notice any pattern? Think on that the next time you try comparing the US with others as though they’re the same, or as though the US is monolithic.
As the OP points out, targeted deterrence is what works, not blanket legislation. And on that same line of thought, holding those accountable for crime is the solution, not the entire group they so happen to belong to, whether that group is by race, culture, religion, or otherwise.
Graphs taken from:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6227a1.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6001a14.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6203a28.htm
Regarding Abe’s initial concerns, he may be thinking of Mexico. Strict gun laws did not stop the cartels from importing or manufacturing their own pistols, rifles, grenades, rocket launchers, etc.
http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-mexico-arms-race15-2009mar15-story.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/legal-us-gun-sales-to-mexico-arming-cartels/
https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth
http://www.businessinsider.com/meet-mexicos-fastest-growing-drug-cartel–it-even-builds-its-own-rifles-2015-4
They’re responsible for Mexico’s recent spike in violence and murder. The sobering reality, though, is that compared to others in Central and South America, they aren’t so bad: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Violent-crime/Murder-rate-per-million-people#-amount
Interesting, but I did not see much mention of pharmaceuticals, why is that? Why no mention of how many “mass shooters” were on anti-depressants or anti-psychotics before they committed their crimes? How many of them were put on Ritalin as children?
Correlation does not imply causation…..but can I see the correlation just for fun?
I have read elsewhere that every single one of these mass shooters was on some prescription drug. worth investigating.
More reason why guns should be outlawed in society. Having potentially armed people causes a lot more risk, and law enforcement seem to be trigger happy when afraid the perp may have gun.
Who could have guessed someone would say that?
Hmmm… Sounds like we need to start dis-arming law enforcement.
Nothing ever changes. (at least on this issue) video from 9/18/68 almost 48 years. It was being joked about as an old and intractable issue then and now!
https://youtu.be/aYG6L9jcFOE
I thought that the ruling class wanted depopulation. Guns will work just fine as will a civil war or revolution. I think we are getting mixed signals from our Masters.
“Altogether, more than 30,000 Americans die annually from gun violence”
More than 60% of that is suicide according to CDC, and CDC is the definitive source of data for US. How is suicide “violence”? As soon as you say something like this, all your further analysis just goes out the window.
AlexN, John’s next sentence says “… over 20,000 take their own lives. Of the remaining roughly 10,000 annual gun homicide victims …”
Violence is defined as “physical force used so as to injure, damage, or destroy; extreme roughness of action.” That the violence is self-inflicted does not make it any less violent.
I highly recommend reading the rest of his analysis, it’s really quite good.
Travis, the root of violence is violate. I do not believe one can “violate” one’s self with violence. Suicide is not violence.
When you consider all the nice folk that have banned guns in their nations, like Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, etc., it does cause one to pause and wonder when someone like Sanders says he wants to confiscate all means of self defense. Maybe he does that to get votes? It certainly puts the elderly and women at a great disadvantage doesn’t it? And the halt and the lame!
Soon in Europe in addition to the police the Muslims will be fully armed leaving the unarmed EU citizen as a sitting duck ready to convert or taste the sword.
What are you talking about?
http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm
Do you mean where was this published? A few months ago in quite a few places, but you can keep your kitchen knives.
That’s not what the link that I posted quotes Sanders as saying, at all. So, unless you post the link to what you claim was published, even just once, much less “quite a few places,” I’ll have no reason to believe you are regurgitating correct information.
“Sen. Bernie Sanders: Ban All Guns Used For Self-Defense …”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvD0DFYh9s
438000 results on Google you might want to learn how to do a google search!
“Socialist Bernie Sanders Wants To Ban All Self-Defense Firearms”
http://bearingarms.com/socialist-bernie-sanders-wants-ban-self-defense-firearms/
I will let a friend of your show you where many more can be found. It will take a long time to view them all, so good luck.
If you make an assertion,it is your job to back it up, No one but you is required to do the work to prove you right.
From the interview, Bernie said he voted to bancertain ypes of assault weapons, to close gun show loopholes and for background checks to screen out those who have criminal backgrounds engaged in domestic violence and the people who are unstable. He went on later to say that “certain types of gun, used to kill people, not exclusively for hunting, should not be sold in America”.
if you want to interpret that as “banning all self-defense firearms”, that’s your right, I suppose, but that sure isn’t a direct quote, and I am sure not al people would see what Bernie said in the same way you do.
I differ about having to back something up when it is so easy to google it– and in any case it is all second or third hand. For the average person having and knowing how to use a hand gun is the best form of self defense. Banning hand guns will simply open up a new black market and in any case only the criminals will be sure to have them. Banning guns will be just as successful as banning drugs.
Let’s hear more about “focused deterrence”. It certainly sounds more appealing than wide-net policies like NYC’s stop and frisk that stomp all over civil liberties.
According to GMU’s CEBCP, in Lowell, “focused deterrence” meant conscripting Asian heavies to prevent low-level gang members from committing violent crimes. But for the Hispanics in Lowell, it meant “sending a strong message to chronic offenders that violence would not be tolerated.” What does that mean?
The key these days is 9/11; Using 9/11 as a filter on such subjects as firearms.
If one believes that it is possible for the 3 (actually 4 with WTC-6) buildings to fall, and to fall as they did, then night, night, sleep tight.
Otherwise one knows that the those buildings should not have, and could not have, and therefore 9/11 was an act of tyranny and treason.
So then, does one wish to give up more of their Liberty and personal security to those that perpetrated 9/11?!
Only four things keeps tyranny up at night: Truth, our withdrawal of our backs by Stop Paying! on their fiat-debts, our sheer numbers, the sheer number of our weapons.
An American citizen, not US subject.
I could believe there was a controlled demolition, but not for the reasons you suggest.
Before September 11, I assumed that when the towers fell, they would fall over sideways and start a big domino chain reaction that would go on for blocks. I suspect I’m not the only one who had this perception… I think some spooks might have arranged an emergency self destruct mechanism because they knew they were perennial terror targets.
I am very tired of the government treating us all like children, but it doesn’t help when we don’t think in an adult manner. These spooks aren’t always out to get us, and I doubt they’re _ever_ out to get the kind of fancy businessmen who worked at WTC. I just wish we had the kind of country where they could come out in the open, say they demolished the towers based on the best evidence at the time, say they brought down Flight 93 to save the lives of people on the ground, and that we could take that and evaluate it dispassionately.
We are always seeking to address problems that are not the root cause. Address why the innately social animal is perpetrating violence against its kin and fix that. This will have a much more widespread positive effect than doing anything to specifically address guns.
Mental illness, greed, ignorance, lack of empathy, irrational passion, manipulation, lack of options. How many issues can we solve if we recognized that these were our true problems?
Focusing on individual issues like gun control or gay rights simply divides your power as a people striving for justice.
Well said, sadly it feels too good to place simplistic blame than the hard work of fathoming and perhaps addressing the root cause.
I agree, Eman, but we could narrow down the search significantly by acknowledging that violence is, by and large, a guy problem. Not that women don’t commit acts of violence. Of course they do. But at such a small rate compared to men. Look at who does these mass shootings. Look at who commits 99.9% of all rapes. Look at who gets us into wars, and who fights those wars. Look at who abuses/kills their partner. Look at the male prison population compared to the female prison population.
So what is it? Is it testosterone? Is it how we raise boys? Are statistics on male violence vs. female violence comparable in other cultures?
Perhaps looking at other species could enlighten us. There may be species out there where a female challenges a rival female for a mate. Or where females butt heads over territory. What is it about these species that is so different from us?
It’s a huge question. I hope there are people working on it…
WakeUpAm, your premise is wrong, but that doesn’t keep you from rushing to all sorts of conclusions (with question marks tacked on the end). Survey children about their abusers (slap, punch, burn, rundown, curse at) and you’ll arrive at wholly different conclusions.