Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., called on an audience of business and political elites earlier this week to respond to populist anger by lobbying harder for a deficit-reduction package that would reduce corporate tax rates and cut public retirement programs such as Social Security.
Although a dominant populist sentiment is that the system is already rigged in favor of the rich, Warner suggested that the “business community” needs to get more involved in politics or face unpleasant repercussions.
“If you don’t think the frustration of Americans with our overall system, — not just our political system, but our business system, our tax code — is at the boiling point, then Katy bar the door!,” he said. “The walls that are gonna have to be built, may not be at borders, they may be around neighborhoods the way they are in many Third World countries around the world,” Warner warned. See an excerpt:
Warner was speaking on Monday at the Milken Institute’s 2016 Global Conference. Every year, this economic policy think tank brings together politicians, corporate executives, and others to muse on the world’s big economic and social problems.
Warner’s panel on tax reform and the federal debt also includes Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., Ernst & Young CEO Mark Weinberger, and Maya MacGuineas, who chairs the corporate-backed lobbying group Fix The Debt.
Warner bemoaned that his years of efforts to strike a congressional “Grand Bargain” based on the Bowles-Simpson deficit reduction plan had resulted in failure.
The Bowles-Simpson plan was composed by an Obama-assembled bipartisan commission that included House and Senate lawmakers and was chaired by Erskine Bowles, a multimillionaire investment banker and Clinton administration alumni, and Alan Simpson, a former Senator-turned-corporate lobbyist.
The commission put together a plan that called for corporate tax reform focused on cutting the corporate tax rate and entitlement reform based on policies such as raising the Social Security retirement age. Obama never embraced the plan, but a group of lawmakers, including Warner, known as the “Gang of Six” put forth legislation that mirrored its recommendations.
“We’d have gotten 70 votes if the establishments on both sides had not shot down our effort,” Warner complained on Monday.
Warner blamed the business community. “We all kind of moan about Washington, I moan about Washington, but Washington, for those of us in the room who are Americans – it’s us! Raise your hand if you’re involved in any political campaign, I don’t care which side,” he said, surveying the room.
“This is a room where now about ten percent of you…raised your hands as saying you have any political involvement. You, if you’re here, have done pretty damn well,” the senator told the audience. “You have an outsized ability to affect what happens in Washington, because you’re successful.”
“I get a little tired of the business community bitching about Washington but then never wanting to get their hands dirty,” he continued.
Warner lauded MacGuineas, who runs the Fix The Debt campaign, which has lobbied Congress to pass a Simpson-Bowles type proposal. Although her group does not disclose its donors, its “CEO Fiscal Leadership Council” includes representatives from Aetna, Caterpillar, JP Morgan Chase, General Electric, and other corporate giants.
“We put together an effort that Maya led which was the first time I’ve seen the business community…called Fix The Debt where we raised some resources so we could in a bipartisan way support Members who were willing to say we need entitlement reform, we need tax reform that generates revenue,” he said. “It was probably 1/100th of the business community [that] participated,” he said.
Weinberger, for his part, complained that Congress is too responsive to the public. “In fact when I worked for [former Missouri Republican Senator] Jack Danforth many years ago, he had a great line. People think in Washington we’re so dissassociated, we’re so aloof, we’re so unconnected to the general public. Nothing could be further from the truth, quite frankly. And we want to do what they want us to do to get elected, in many cases.”
He continued: “The problem is when you have candidates on both sides of the aisle attacking the corporate institution as all greedy and rich… And all not paying their fair share…all the institutions lose trust.”
Warner’s grand bargain is decidedly not what the public is looking for. Gallup polling in 2010 found that only 35 percent of Americans favor raising Social Security’s retirement age, unchanged from five years earlier. While the corporate world has been lobbying to reduce tax rates for years, Pew found that almost two-thirds of Americans said they were “bothered a lot by the feeling that some corporations aren’t paying what’s fair in federal taxes.”
It makes you wonder if Warner’s plan for a corporate alliance to oppose the public’s will on these issues would head off an angry populist revolt — or provoke one.
Top photo: A protester holds a mock U.S. flag during “Democracy Spring” protests outside the U.S. Capitol in April 2016.
He is an insult to the intelligence.
Mark Warner is lowlife scumbag.
Further proof of exactly whom he/they represent.
What a piece of trash. I’ll remember is name for sure.
Got the video and his mugshot as well.
Carter called the US a plutocracy and Warner intends to consolidate that. Guess Warner failed to understand that Carter’s remark wasn’t intended as a compliment.
Warner is trying to plug the leak in the Titanic with a string mop. He and his billionaire buddies are up against forces they do not bother to understand. In fact it might be … that they lack the fundamental tools to understand.
Physics cannot be negotiated with or papered over with Black-Scholes or Dodd-Frank or Simpson-Bowles for that matter. Entropy does not know fear or pity …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu0rP2VWLWw
We’ve created for ourselves and our mechanical toys a political/economic regime that cannot function without increasing access to non-renewable capital … access that is no longer increasing despite our most frantic efforts.
Warner and the other corporate fools need to prepare for hard times, they are coming.
If the contents of Hillary’s speeches before big business are similar to Warner’s then Trump will be the next president. There is no way the contents of her speeches will remain secret and it is very likely the disclosure will be in late October.
She and her advisors are fooling themselves if they think otherwise.
There are a few blue dog Democrats in Washington and I guess Warner is one. He needs to be replaced with a progressive Democrat. He has seen the writing on the wall. If he thinks his ideas should be adopted and the citizens walled off he is grossly misinformed. NAFTA,TPP, the 1% these are the things that have destroyed America. I fear there could be a revolution like 1919 Russia. Except one difference, the Second Amendment. There would be a very well armed 99%.
I had to read this twice to make sure I was reading it correctly. I wonder if Warner and the other rich fucks realize that Warner completely contradicted himself? If they follow his advice and cut corporate taxes and Social Security they will absolutely need to live in armed walled compounds. As it is, I keep wishing the revolution would start now. It will definitely start when the financial industry implodes for a second time and the politicians use our tax money to bail them out again.
You missed what he said Sharon, he insinuates that YOU will live in a walled prison- your neighborhood, so HE stays safe in the event of an uprising.
And remember, this guy is an elected public official basically saying he does not represent the public but corporate interests. He is saying the public he is supposed to represent is a pain in the ass.
Finally, he implies that the people THERE are successful, but not the working men and women of this country.
This is the first article I have read in a long time that genuinely made me angry. To maintain professional decorum, I will simply say this man is an jhole, perhaps the King of jholes.
I can think of no better recent example that so clearly demonstrates why our society is in so much trouble. The way he considers people and the hubris is appalling.
I had to laugh…..I guess Warner thinks the Business Community’s lobbyists are doing a lousy job of writing the legislation — time to give Warner the push out of Washington…..http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/11/11/243973620/when-lobbyists-literally-write-the-bill
Well the study at Princeton last year proved the exact opposite of what Warner claims; that the public has no representation at all in Washington. What a slimy little slug.
“Congress listens too much to the public?” Really? And, here all of this time I was under the impression that the members of Congress were there at the bequest of the ‘public’ (voters, constituents) and their job was to LISTEN to those folks who gave them their job. At least that is what we (the ‘public,’ the voters, the constituents) the people who, as taxpayers, are paying them to do. So sorry I voted for this guy, won’t happen ever again.
With “Democrats” like Warner, and of course, Hillary Clinton, is the Republican Party becoming redundant?
Just as the Democratic Party is an obsolete term.
All hale the RepubliCrats, the party of, by, and for corporations!
Some of Senator Warner and members of this economic policy think tank probably got their calculators out to compute “generous” 10% tips or outright stiffed their waiters and waitresses at this conference.
Yes, the rich are different….
It’s a mystery to me how anyone can entitle themselves to so much and begrudge the rest of us a decent living. Scrooge learned his lesson, some do, most won’t…..we don’t live in a perfect libertarian society, we need a social democracy for and of all the People.
Having tasted democracy the middle class, which distinguishes our age from all others, is not going to evaporate, time will not reverse, these wannabe royal folks should be very careful to not overvalue their excesses for we outnumber them by multitudes, hence Bernie and Donald, etc.
Sounds like someone’s making his play for a VP spot on the Clinton ticket!
I take Warner’s comments about getting involved as code for soliciting donations. This is how it works. A ‘blue dog’ Dem is every bit as anti-democracy and anti-civilization as the worst Republicans.
Someday soon people will see the utter nightmare we now find ourselves. Most, if not all, of what little wealth,once owned in the form of houses and savings, has been sucked out of the average citizen. We are now , all of us, living on borrowed time because the house of cards built by the uber elites will soon collapse as the entire planet plummets into an economic and ecological nightmare. There won’t be any oil left to power the wheels of industry. There won’t be water left to grow crops. We were warned more than fifty years ago that this time was coming but the rulers played their deadly games of world domination sucking vast resources by mining ores and fuels, turning them into junk nobody needed, thinking they didn’t need to worry because they controlled the best forces in the world. Collapse is now imminent, there’s little left to obtain except the despair felt by people wondering what’s been happening of late. Well all the vast wealth you accumulated won’t be worth anything when the planet burns. Unable to grow GMO crops and GMO fish and find un-poisoned water because you thought the growth model was endless. Well it’s not and we don’t know what to do because you all wasted what little time and resources left after playing deadly war games and empire building building shining towers of human vanity and greed. Time’s up, the sandbox is full of bullies and filth. Humans requiem will be; we all had so much, could of actually solved what befalls most species but didn’t and will also go extinct as the Earth spends another million years to reboot and start over. Sorry!
An excellent and frank admission by Mr. Warner. It should be placed in a deeper historical context as well as needing to be understood as to what it is telling us in today’s political moment.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana
If you go to Lance Selfa’s book “The Democrat’s: A Critical History” you’ll find on pages 122-126 a section titled “The Democrats and The Populists.” He covers a very small moment in history around the turn of the 19th Century when populists sentiment and in fact Populist’s were getting elected to state legislatures and Congress, from page 123: “They appeared to be on the verge of either making the United States a three-party political system or even displacing one of the two major parties.”
What happened over the next few decades was a lesson in what the role of the Democratic Party is in domestic political activity- that being the absorption and taming of populist movements.
We certainly have seen this same phenomenon play itself out in recent decades through the vehicles of such Dem Party “progressives” like Jesse Jackson, John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Barack Obama and now Bernie Sanders.
One of the lessons that is crystal clear is that we would have been better off if the Populists (and many other organizations) had not been actively attacked and absorbed by The Democrats. What is also clear is that such aristocratic pronouncements by the likes of Mr. Warner are a frank admissions as to how the ruling class thinks and are not a deviation from who the Democrats have been throughout their history but perfectly representative.
So those who run about wistfully moaning that “he’s a Democrat in name only” or that this is just a “DNC Democrat” or that we need to elect “truly progressive Democrats” or a dozen such slogans are completely ignorant of the history of The Democrats.
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The term “New Democrats” can be misleading. As Selfa shows, the party’s recent record of backing the rich and supporting the military state is not some sort of radical departure from a previously noble and progressive past. It is consistent with the Democrats’ long history of serving the business and imperial establishments over and against the needs and aspirations of ordinary working people. The Democrats’ millionaire New Deal leader Franklin Delano Roosevelt responded to his business critics by claiming (with no small justice) that he was “the best friend the profits system ever had” and identifying himself as the (socialism-evading) “savior” of “the system of private profit and free enterprise.”
Far from advancing a social-democratic counter to the corporate system that produced the Great Depression, the New Deal Democratic Party (1932–79) “remained,” in Selfa’s words, “a self-consciously capitalist party throughout, responding to the needs of business rather than the desires of its ‘constituents’.” It constructed the advanced capitalist world’s mildest welfare state, one where labor, racial minorities, women, and social justice took a backseat to the interrelated privileges and power of capital and empire. It oversaw the rise of the Cold War, leading to the rapid formation of a “permanent arms economy” and the purging of Left activists who played key roles sparking the social insurgency that forced New Deal social reforms like the National Labor Relations and Social Security Acts during the middle 1930s.
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http://isreview.org/issue/65/left-case-against-democrats
Short Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va. : “Give me money”.
Warner epitomizes the establishment against which economic populism is railing. Trump and Bernie flourish on corporatists such as Warner proving both parties are Wall St. shills. He proves these elites are living in an irreal bubble.
Warner is delusional if he thinks further cutting corporate taxes and Social Security will decrease the likelihood of a popular revolt. It’ll have the opposite effect.
Prove it.
I couldn’t disagree more with Sen. Warner. I think that we’ll be much easier on these guys if they raise corporate taxes and increase Social Security payments.
The bleating of the relative “poor” is never ending because that is the accepted/expected Liberal culture you douchebags promote. Something for nothing. The louder they yelp [vs. work], the more righteous they feel. …How sad.
The 1% defines their jealous-much socialist angst, metrics and demands, irrespective of all their purchasing power, including new trucks & 20’s.
So what. Cry wolf. Pickup your guns and pitchforks and see what happens. See who’s neighborhoods are barricaded from whom.
This ain’t São Paulo, yet. Hopefully with a FUCKING WALL that will be delayed by a few decades, and hopefully the NAFTA Repubs hung drawn and quartered too.
Donald Trump’ s success is a direct consequence of the elite screwing middle class America. It’s what happens when a small bunch of greedy, selfish psychopaths corrupt the political system to the extent when the government and military work only to serve their agenda. The establishment’s candidates have been destroyed, and Trump, in all probability, will cruise to victory, crushing Hillary. Only Bernie has a chance against Trump, because the American people are demanding change.
Please someone wake me up from what must be a nightmare.
If Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., – a DEMOCRAT is calling for this we must have arrived in dystopia and there is no Wizard of Oz, or the Good Witch of the North Glinda to show how to clique our heels together three times so we can escape.
We cannot be sure if what the absurdity of this shameful Senator proposes proves him to be a total moron, or that he supposes we are total morons capable of believing such proven faulty thinking.
Austerity only works if you use the faulty math found in the Excel spread sheets used to incorrectly justify it by the truly embarrassed economists that made the blunder.
Comparing the handling of a massive economy to that of how to handle a household checkbook and expecting the public to buy that absurd concept is a flagrant insult to the masses.
But worst of all to try and force upon any human being with even a limited functioning brain the hearing of just an utterance of the concept of Trickle Down Economics is torture only equivalent to what would be expected to be experience in the eternity of hell.
What are they begging for an outright revolution?
ah the yellow brick road to who knows where….
Let’s pull back the the curtains of the face to reveal the expression worth a thousand words..
Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/b8mVoXGRUbw/sddefault.jpg
his doppleganger..
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-LA452_bkrvmy_P_20151030181238.jpg
Let Them Eat Cake Demacrats. It sure would be nice to hear what Secretary Clinton said to the Banksters at exactly this type of get together. Frankly, this article scares the s*#t out of me. He’s correct as far as businesses needing to get more involved in things, but that involvement should not be to create more storylines for the next Charles Dickens.
Lawyers, as a rule, neither respect not humble themselves to people who work with their hands. Jesus had a measure of disdain for lawyers.
Lk:11:46: And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
sharia law, no lawyers. lawyers hate that.
Democratic Senator Urges Business Elites to Get More Involved in Politics
sure. Just what America needs. More money in politics. In China, the execute these corruptors. The arrogance of power. Corruption as a captial crime? It works for China. Certainly puts the disincentive in the relationship formula. Who said it wouldn’t work for the United States of People?
Zaid,
you’re a bright young journalist with sharp wits. Keep doin’ what ya do, Bro.
This is the kind of scum-bag that needs to be gone from office. Out with all incumbents.
Business elites are already involved in politics. That’s why we have all of these free trade agreements that have allowed them to outsource to nations like China, Mexico and India and import the product dirt cheap. This is why we have a tax code with plenty of loopholes that allow the rich to stay rich while everyone else gets poorer.
The business elites being involved in politics is why the middle class is struggling and income inequity is ridiculously high. This is why now more than ever we need money OUT of politics, not find ways to continue to join them together.
Cut social security and decrease taxes on corporations. Yeah that will make people really happy. What a fucking idiot. Warner is one of the biggest sellouts in the country.
Yeah, I had to read that a couple times. Cut S.S. better build that moat.
sounds as if he has a criminal mind like a wannabe gangster. maybe a wannabe stalinist. mental defectives like him need to be classed in the standards of mental disorders so that they can be denied positions of authority and power.
write the law. pass it on the net. people count. people rule.
Warner, you are full of shit.
Trickle down economics does not work. Clearly.
You are talking dangerous talk here, with your fences around neighborhoods.
Corporations, by and large, are not reinvested capital gains into production, research and development, employee wages, training, etc. Instead, stocks are bought, CEOs are rewarded for hallowing out their companies, and little meaning is given back to the economy.
Did I read this right that this retread wants to cut corporate taxes and slash social security to stave off populist uprising? Is that a typo?
Want to stave off an uprising, then conduct business honestly, treat employees well, put money back into production, research and development, employee wages, and quit rewarding stock holders that drive you to hallow out your business for a quarterly return.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/sam-brownback-kansas-tax-cuts-trickle-down
I would encourage those interested to read ‘Killing the Host’ by Michael Hudson. It’s an outstanding read that fills in so many information gaps.
Well said and TRUE. There are currently few stewards of the future in corporations or Government. Agents of shortsighted self-interest have seized the day and usurped the Republic. More for me less for you is their motto.
If it looks like an oligarchy, sounds like an oligarchy, it probably is one…
“Warner lauded MacGuineas”
That’s all you need to know, other than her sponsors that are listed. GE, indeed!
This individual, one of my two weak kneed Senators especially with regard to the two ruinous trade deals, is a disgrace and a DINO.
DINO
Acronym for Democrat In Name Only. Refers to people affiliated with the DemoCratic Party who act like Republicans.
And we’re supposed to believe that the Democrats as a whole are LEFT-WING? Ha. Thanks for the article, more evidence to debunk the “spoiler theory”, as how does a true left-wing party like the Green Party “spoil” an election between two parties on the right-wing spectrum? It doesn’t.
If this is what passes for a Democrat, then we have truly entered another Gilded Age; our ‘leaders’ even use the same tactics: starve the underclass so they have no time or energy to protest.
What pathetic cretins in Virginia voted for that swine?
Erskine Bowles was not only Clinton’s chief of staff, but sits on the Board of Directors of Morgan Stanley (wouldn’t have gone out of business had AIG not been bailed out) while his wifey sites on the Board of Directors of JPMorgan Chase (would have gone out of business if AIG had not been bailed out).
Bowles made his big bucks (or political payoff) when he was hired by Henry Kissinger at the PE firm of Forstmann Litte. (Please note that Chase is a Rockefeller bank, and that Kissinger has long been a Rockefeller lackey).
Warner supposedly was an improvement over Webb, and definitely over the Macaca man.
What pathetic cretins in Virginia voted for that swine?
just the cretin lillywhite racists who are more than willing to genocide non whites just like the zions exterminate palestinians.
This is not to say that the differences between lillywhites and others is not significant. The problem that lillywhites have is their unwillingness to be reborn and relive. Lack of faith. Fear of death as if life is once and over.
If i could prove undeniably that life recycles, what then? Because i can prove it.
“What pathetic cretins in Virginia voted for that swine?”
Not me.
Hopefully it will provoke one in Virginia to remove his sorry ass from *government service*.
p.s. 24b4Jeff, I feel your pain. We have Kasich in Ohio and even Sherrod Brown is slowly evolving into something he didn’t used to resemble all those years ago when he first ran for public office. :-s
Yes, sirree, that’s mah senator, upholding the finest political traditions of Vagina, with one eye on his political PAC’s till and the other on the contractors whose headquarters now ring the beltway. The same senator who told me, when I asked him why he did not support Senators Wyden and Udall on the Intelligence [sic] committee that the NSA was doing a fine job in protecting us.
Warner is considered to be a librul here in VA, but in reality he is just another fascist.
Vote Blue No Matter Who Screw You
If the politics don’t fit, extort that shit.