Updated | May 7, 1:30 pm Donald Trump launched into a bizarre riff on Thursday night, denying climate science in remarks to West Virginia coal miners by comparing the regulation of their industry to the ban on something closer to his personal experience: aerosol hairspray.
After being presented with a miner’s helmet by the West Virginia Coal Association, an industry group that endorsed him, Trump briefly put it on to do a broad impression of a miner digging with a shovel. He then removed it and asked the crowd if the helmet had messed up his hair, which triggered a lengthy tangent on the good old days, before aerosols were phased out.
“My hair look okay?” Trump asked the crowd. “Got a little spray — give me a little spray.”
“You know, you’re not allowed to use hairspray anymore because if affects the ozone. You know that, right?” he said to laughter. “I said, ‘You mean to tell me’ — ’cause you know hairspray’s not like it used to be, it used to be real good,” he added, to more laughs. “Give me a mirror. But no, in the old days, you put the hairspray on, it was good. Today, you put the hairspray on, it’s good for 12 minutes, right?”
“I said, ‘Wait a minute — so if I take hairspray and if I spray it in my apartment, which is all sealed, you’re telling me that affects the ozone layer?'” “‘Yes.'” I say, no way, folks. No way!”
“No way!” he added to cheers. “That’s like a lot of the rules and regulations you people have in the mines, right? It’s the same kind of stuff.”
The regulation of mining in West Virginia, and elsewhere, might not be popular with the industry trade association that endorsed Trump, but it has helped to safeguard the health and save the lives of many of the workers in the mines. Just last week, the United Mine Workers of America hailed a move by the Department of Labor to better implement the Black Lung Benefits Act by giving miners “greater access to their health information, bolster the accuracy of claims decisions, and require coal mine companies to pay all disability or survivor’s benefits due,” a West Virginia news channel reported.
The coal industry group’s backing of Trump at the event was widely misreported by his supporters online as something like its opposite — the endorsement of a union representing miners.
WOW!!! West Virginia Coal Assn Union endorses @realDonaldTrump –Crowd Goes Nuts!! pic.twitter.com/R8APiNjvWn
— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) May 5, 2016
Trump did indeed win over the coal companies’ trade group by promising to ease regulations on the industry. But the hairspray science that he was scoffing at is now well established.
Hairspray and ozone layer? Don't pay attention to the Nobel Prize-winning scientists, just listen to Trump https://t.co/124qwEYxee
— Kenwardjr (@Kenwardjr) May 6, 2016
In 1974, when F. Sherwood Rowland and Mario Molina suggested that chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, in aerosol sprays then common in deodorants and hair care products had the potential to deplete the Earth’s ozone layer, aerosol manufacturers derided the hypothesis and sponsored a speaking tour by a professor who doubted that it was correct. There was enough validity to the underlying science, though, to lead the United States, Canada and Scandanavian countries to voluntarily end the use of CFCs in aerosol sprays in the late 1970s.
Rowland and Molina’s laboratory research was borne out over a decade later, when British scientists discovered that the stratospheric ozone layer, which blocks harmful ultraviolet rays, had developed a hole over Antarctica.
The finding led to the Montreal Protocol in 1987, an international environmental treaty to stop the production of the aerosol compounds. Although it is lumped in with a host of agreements endorsed by Democrats on right-wing talk radio, the negotiations that led to that accord were carried out by a Republican administration, and the treaty was enthusiastically endorsed by Ronald Reagan.
Even still, Reagan’s vice president and successor, George H.W. Bush, set the tone for the anti-science strain of Republican rhetoric in his failed bid for reelection in 1992, mocking Bill Clinton’s environmentalist running mate, Al Gore, as “ozone man.”
Three years later, in 1995, Rowland and Molina were awarded the Nobel Prize for Chemistry, along with another researcher, Paul Crutzen.
Although the hairspray industry has managed to find other means of transmitting its product onto the heads of needy customers, Trump’s nostalgia for the days when America’s hairspray was great seems firmly set.
As the New York Times reported in December, he launched into a very similar riff then during a rally in South Carolina.
CLIP: Donald Trump on hair spray and pollution. Full video here: https://t.co/GggvlUk1ZDhttps://t.co/IQUBeUGIq5
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 30, 2015
While it seems unlikely that even a President Trump would be able to restore America’s aerosol manufacturing industry to its former glory, there is some hope that his affection for hairspray could inspire him to be at least a little more even-handed in negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians. That’s because, as the Houston Chronicle reported in February, Trump is said to use a product, the CHI Helmet Head Extra Firm Hair Spray, developed and sold by a Palestinian immigrant, Farouk Shami. According to the Institute for Middle East Understanding, Shami, 73, lived briefly under Israeli military occupation in the West Bank after the 1967 war, before moving to Texas, where he has established the hair-care company that bears his name, Farouk Systems.
Shami said he first gave Trump the spray some years ago, during a visit to the set of ABC’s “Celebrity Apprentice,” and the two became friends.
When Trump launched his campaign by making disparaging remarks about Mexican immigrants last year, however, Shami withdrew his company’s sponsorship of the show and beauty pageants then owned by the billionaire real estate heir.
“I have 2,000 employees who are Mexican,” Shami told the Chronicle. “I had to take up for them.”
That ozone hole really put the hurt on us when it opened up back in the day. I still prefer my money go to St. Jude’s.
The active ingredients of hair spray have not changed. The industry simply switched to an alcohol-based propellant back in the 1990’s rather than use the original one derived from CFCs.
Uh oh … I went ahead and used a fact-based rationale to undermine Donnie’s whiny, anti-environmental complaint. Guess that makes me a bimbo.
I’m don’t know if Global Warming is real or not, but I really don’t trust the media or the Establishment to tell me anything anymore. They just lie.
So, now the Media is left jumping up and down and screaming that the sky is falling and no one really believes them.
Sad.
And yet you still believe Donald Trump exists. And you call yourself a skeptic.
Let me guess, you heard all about this Donald Trump guy from the “Media” right?
Oh and he just happens to be on all these TV screens at the same time — how, if he was really real, could he be on all those TV screens at the same time? Donald Trump is an invention, a rather sloppy one too. They took Captain Kangaroo and put him in a different suit and pretended he was a “real estate tycoon” from “New York” (not the city, the theme park) — I mean, there’s a phony business right there.
“Real estate” the whole name gives it away that it’s not real.
Vic, what a stu pid comment… no wonder he is skeptical with echo chambers like you around.
I could lead w/ witty one liners: “science is never settled”, “the institution of science makes skepticism a virtue.” Etc, on and on.
But to Trump’s point, if he was in fact making one: science changes and has ridiculous consequence (butter good, butter bad, coffee good, coffee bad, ozone layer is depleting, etc). There was an article entitled “Can We Control the Arctic Climate?” — by P.M. Borisov, Mar. 1969 in the the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists that went on to ask/investigate the idea of human beings being able to ameliorate the climate of Siberia and other northern lands to develop the regions for expanding population.
Everyone should read it. Funny how settled science changes.
I do have to question the veracity of an article that cannot correctly identify what network Celebrity apprentice is on.
Ozone layer?The last time that hit the news was right before the global cooling hit the news,which was then pushed from the headlines by global warming.
Memes for the fear merchants and their rapt audiences,issued by the same yuppie scum who push the war of terror,and Israel uber alles.
Right, science isn’t real, man. It’s a CONSPIRACY.
Yeah, the ozone layer is just some stratospherically high-headed conspiracy theory about oxygen atoms getting together and reacting with waves that can be blocked with tinfoil.
I have 2000 employees that are Mexican;Most revealing.Are they Americans or illegal Mexicans,Mr.Shami?
Do you actually think Trump would prevent diplomats from Arab or Muslim countries entering US?Total yuppie illiberal hyperbole.
Forget about hairspray, what about Chemtrails, Fukashima, Hanford, Panama Papers, etc?
Facts are irrelevant in a time of deceit.
• The ozone layer is vital, blocks extremely damaging UV rays, and is very thin
• CFCs consume ozone at an extraordinarily disproportionate ratio [1:100,000]
• Prior to banning CFCs, estimates put CFC pumped into the atmosphere at hundreds of thousands of metric tons / year.
• CFCs have an extremely long life and will continue to wreak havoc with the atmosphere long after this generation is gone.
“The chlorine atoms act as a catalyst, and each can break down tens of thousands of ozone molecules before being removed from the stratosphere.
• Given the longevity of CFC molecules, recovery times are measured in decades.
• It is calculated that a CFC molecule takes an average of about five to seven years to go from the ground level up to the upper atmosphere,
* CFCs can stay there for about a century, destroying up to one hundred thousand ozone molecules during that time. [ Wikipedia]
Reality TV.
Enough said.
He panders to every stupid idea held by anyone who is ignorant. He is a true GOPer..Trump just brings all the underlying GOP racist, ignorant, greedy, policies, ideas and perspectives to the front. They are getting what they deserve.
Donald may not know what he may do? I am no fan but if you statement is correct and we get a President Trump his greatest service may be to expose the men behind the curtains of power for what they are. He is no “Smooth Operator” like Obama.
Only the truly ignorant are unaware that the War of Terror,Trade steals,open borders and neoliberal capitalism have destroyed America,unless one is of the 1%.
He is laughing and joking and connecting with ordinary people. It’s a people skills thing.
You know, when media folk say things that are blatantly not true and easily disproved, they really don’t help their cause much.
Here an interesting video of some “Mexican immigrants.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrFAxJmcYfw
Illiberals don’t consider blue collars worthy of connection.
This guy Mackey sure spews a lot of poopie cockie.Agenda journalism.I heard they are looking for fresh talent in the serial lying MSM MSM.A rewarding future awaits.
oh look it’s “regular guys” Si1ver1ock & dahoit. Just hangin out diggin on the regular guy type action, with their orange haired red faced buddy Donald Trump.
Donald Trump knows the kind of thing regular American men do is complain about how their hairspray used to work but now it doesn’t. Am I right? Am I right?
Let’s go watch some old Andy Rooney clips together, that guy was hilarious y’know what I mean?
Bernie Sanders also connects with ordinary people.
Personally, I can’t stand hairspray. I was in an electrical fire and sustained some lung damage. Now i am extremely sensitive to chemical most smells. Just walking down the soap and detergent isle at the supermarket causes me to have a reaction. Perfumes, aftershaves etc. all cause reactions. Women’s hairspray is like mustard gas to me.
Here is a clip (James Cagney not Mickey Rooney) for you it contains mildly racist images sure to get your blood boiling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvB4xk4LNQ
Maybe they should have Surgeon General Warnings on movies clips like:
WARNING: Contains racist images of a bygone era.
Vic Perry wasn’t referring to “Mickey Rooney.” He was referring to, as he wrote, Andy Rooney.
Eh? Rooney who?
I can’t hear you.
Type louder.
Go vote for the hell bitch,she’s gonna need it.
Trump was brave to mention hairspray btw,as no men usually use it,at least to my knowledge.
Andy Rooney?
I guess you are an irregular American man?
“Trump was brave enough to mention hairspray” LOL this should go on your tombstone you moron.
Not that you deserve any consideration, but I don’t happen to support Hillary.
I want to congratulate you on your post that didn’t contain the word “Zionist.” Make it up in the future, though. It’s important that you say “Zionist” a lot or nobody will remember your posts.
Was Trump pretending to eat his “Trump Tower Taco Bowl” also brave – as was his hairspray act? Or was Trump merely pandering to the larger crowd as he was to those in West Virginia?
Trump has on his travelling staff a tailor working faithfully to ensure his Silk Chinese Suit fits the views of the folks in his face at the time.
Giving lip service to climate science while working behind the scenes to increase domestic and international fossil fuel use globally is the corporate Democrat model; the banks and funds that back Hillary and Obama have huge fossil fuel holdings, and they don’t want to write them off. The only difference between them and Republicans is that Republicans are happy with science denial.
Meanwhile tar sand oil towns in Canada are burning to the ground early in the fire season due to massive Western NA drought, and across the world climate refugees are on the move (a major factor in Syria’s problems). This will provide economic opportunities for some – arms dealers, human traffickers, etc – but for most the effects will be crippling.
However China is now the world leader in renewable energy manufacturing and Germany is demonstrating that fossil and nuclear can be replaced by renewables. This trend will continue.
The fossil fuel era is thus coming inexorably to an end, but not fast enough to slow the rate of global warming. Human civilization is going to get served this century, there’s no doubt about that. The refugee crisis in Europe? That’s just the beginning. Better get used to it, because it is not going away. Coastal property in Florida is not a good long-term investment, in other words.
Land inland in Florida may not be such a good investment either. I mean, not just because the sea can drown it, but because the Hadley cells themselves are moving north. The great band of desert that lies over Mexico and the Sahara is coming north. A few million years ago, Florida was a desert … and will be again. See http://news.agu.org/press-release/expanding-tropics-pushing-high-altitude-clouds-towards-poles-new-study-finds/
The highest mountain? in Fl is 300 feet,and it is all alone,surrounded by reclaimed swamp.Crowded for sure,if the tide rises.
But it aint rising,or only in places far far away,where water doesn’t seek its own level.
What I find hardest to understand is the readers who believe that Trump believes the stuff he spouts to get elected. We, humans are facing an existential crisis of our own making and are not doing anything serious about it. The USA brags about how much greenhouse gas reduction it has achieved….BS, the gas is being created by the Chinese factories who are producing what the USA used to produce itself; other western nations are the same. What the USA has done is to wildly increase the methane released by fracking. Like the tens of thousands of Nuclear weapons still active and the bio stuff coming out of the labs without severe controls; it’s all just nuts expecting we will somehow just muddle through like we have for millennia. Good luck to us. I just heard Senator Sanders in WVa last night dare to speak the truth; Coal has to go and we need to develop new green industry and support the workers displaced and he will almost certainly be displaced by more of the same establishment and yes, crooked Hillary.
Don’t get your panties in a wad,India is developing less gassy cattle.
Dumb-Trump, smart-Hillary or dumb-Hillary, smart-Trump don’t believe either one. One may be smooth the other rough but they are both successful “Operators” who would eat any of us average folks alive if we crossed them. When you underestimate an opponent you end up the one who looks dumb.
Do believe that Hillary is the ultimate insider that will give you more of the same. Trump is a wild card that will bring change perhaps with not much hope but it might set the stage for something new for better or worse?
Hillary vs Trump will be a hell of a bar fight with no kitchen sink left attached to the walls. Citizens must choose according to their beliefs, knowledge, conscience and instincts. Get out and vote this time there is a real choose. I hope the collective “wisdom” proves right for our Republic.
I’ll take the status quo over bigotry and hate on any day.
Trump is a demagogue and a racist.
In actuality though, Trump is a failed populist. His movement is white and divisive and has failed to bring the people together. Period.
His supporters will need to try again in 2020 with an inclusive movement rather than an exclusive one.
Dana Milbanks last column before he was fired by Wapo.(not)
Amazing that they all aren’t fired.
Any Republic is fragile and endangered throughout its history, Revolution, Civil War, other wars, depressions greater and lesser, military industrial complex and so on.
Bush post 911 built the coffin for our Constitutional Republic. Obama screwed down the lid and stripped the screws. Hillary will cast the concrete for entombment. We are clearly choosing between the lesser of two potential evils. Each person must choose their own lesser evil. I would not even suggest want will be worse.
Mr. Trump has successfully cleared the hairspray hurdle for presidential candidates – demonstrating he has mastered the intricacies of hairspray. Way back in 2015, he had already positioned himself as the hairspray candidate:
Mrs. Clinton will have to up her game and drop the lame claim that her foreign policy expertise is essentially the same. She needs to establish her hairspray bona fides very soon, or the race isn’t even going to be close.
In fact, it may already be too late. Mr. Trump is pandering to the valuable stupid demographic, where elections are won and lost. Mrs. Clinton, for all her vaunted experience, just doesn’t connect with that demographic at a visceral level. Mr. Trump, from the article linked above:
Mr. Mencken in 1920 expressed it best, although his language, due to living in a less enlightened era, is unfortunately not politically correct by today’s standards:
I want to use hairspray.
I don’t use hairspry, and I don’t want no FOP … i’m a Dapper Dan* man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4r4U-y5WJs
*be here in 2 weeks
Bear fat has always worked well for me, but this time of year, the bears are pretty scrawny.
Sounds like the bares need all the fat they can git come winter.
Try Lard (brand) for that slick-backed look.
*i can order you some … be here in about 2 weeks.
I thought for sure you wrote this article. I jest, but it is within the Benito spirit of writing.
Duce, you might consider Mitt Romney, who apparently is considering a run on the legitimist GOP ticket.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/06/mitt-romney-met-privately-with-william-kristol-who-is-leading-the-effort-to-draft-an-independent-bid/
He may have bypassed hairspray to bring us back to traditional 1950s values, which is to say, Brylcreem and perhaps Grecian Formula. Certainly there’s enough oil up there to restore energy independence. So a race that includes Mitty, the Donald and Hillary would be an awesome contest of American hair power.
Dear Sirs:
We all know the best politicians use Vitalis hair tonic. BTW, I miss the avatars for Mussolini and Nobis — were they unsafe, so TI removed?
I thought this was a refreshing piece, for a change. After most coverage, a little humor, almost a non-sequitur.
And yeah, ABC’s “The Apprentice” (sic), no doubt.
It’s too bad that it took this long for the reaction that I was hoping to see. Loved your response, Benito Mussolini.
Apparently Trump gets to make up his own science as he goes along.
Still, there’s a moral here, and the moral is that the carbon crisis doesn’t get solved. If Americans can’t even support people who look at a long-term ecological picture based on facts, who thinks the Chinese are going to do it? Every country will keep burning whatever is cheapest and paying a small amount toward propaganda fixes, until the ice caps melt and the methane bubbles out of the oceans and the water vapor builds up in the atmosphere and the oceans boil and the Earth goes the way of the Venus of a billion years ago.
The question is, what to do about the Ark? There’s bound to be some last ditch nitwit attempt at an Ark where all of the really well connected people try to fly away to some other place like they would retreat to Dubai if they ever had to pay a penny in taxes here. Should they be left to try their chances in a harsh cosmos, or should some hero blow it up, and sabotage even the transmitters they hope to use to broadcast the names of the pharaohs into the cold eternity? Should we interpret the original Noah’s Ark a test that mankind failed, when none of the kids realized that it was their duty to smash a hole in the bottom of that boat and send the last remnant of a despicable race down to Davy Jones?
Act I
“As “pleasantly plump” teenager Tracy Turnblad lies in bed, she muses about her love for her hometown, her love of dancing, and her desire to be famous (“Good Morning Baltimore”). She goes to school and is given a warning for “inappropriate hair height” …”
~ Hairspray (the musical)
*”give me a mirror” President Donald Trump
If only Trump *did* live in a sealed apartment.
How does he think he continues to breath oxygen, FFS.
Love these stories, Mr. Mackey. Well done.
And kudos to Mr. Shami for withdrawing his sponsorship in support of his Mexican workers.
Aerosols were not phased out. Chlorofluorocarbons were phased out. I know journalists aren’t scientists, but I expect more accuracy from The Intercept. The CFCs used in aerosol sprays were a propellant, not an aerosol, and other propellants are used in aerosols today. It’s also a bit troubling if investigative journalists are assuming presidential nominees are speaking the truth, even about the effectiveness of hairspray. Is there any reason to believe that modern propellants are less effective?
That’s exactly what I read above. Did they correct it?
Alas, it appears that the Dunning-Kruger effect also applies to journalists. In their eagerness to show Trump up as the ignoramus he is, they get sloppy with their fact checking.
My guess is that the so-called riff on hair spray was not spontaneous at all, but rather a carefully contrived segue onto the topic of environmental regulation. The coal miners’ mentality is somewhat curious, much like that of tobacco farmers, I would imagine. I guess they lament the jail time for the executive who ignored safety regulations, leading to multiple deaths?
Well,this ignoramus must be a hell of a lot smarter than all the other ignoramuses he’s vanquished,and the epitome of ignorance,HRC in the fall.if she can beat the devil of criminality she is consumed by.
The article does not say “aerosols were phased out”. It states:
Aerosols are defined to include the suspension compound. The article states CFCs were the bad actor in many aerosol products. The colloidal suspension compound is liquid under high pressure (that’s why you shake the can before you spray, to suspend settled particles) and it boils the instant it is released from the nozzle to the atmosphere (low pressure – just as a hot radiator boils over when uncapped) to leave a mist of particles behind. The CFC also acts as a propellant in that gas space in the can (above the liquid) is boiled-off CFC. This head pressure forces the suspension out the nozzle.
CFCs are the best available compound for the job because of their physical characteristics. The Donald is right in that newer, safer, substitutes do not perform as well.
That is the charm of The Trumpster; always a grain of truth.
Mussolini was right about the Italian train system, too.
Read the last four words of the second paragraph, nuf said. I mean, I guess he meant it as a quote, or he was postponing critical thinking till later in the article, or something, I guess. I’m a grammar nazi on scotch, so don’t take me too seriously.
The man truly is a moron.
Just for the record, chlorofluorocarbons are used in aerosol sprays as propellants. They have nothing to do with the goopy, sticky effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the products.
Imbecilic clown vs. mad mama bomber. We have reached new frontiers in national politics in 2016.
Need there be any more proof than what was covered in this article that the election process is nothing but shallow distracting entertainment.
We are at the point where we can barely remember what we thought a “democracy looked like”, and well past the point where we begin to wonder if our children will ever have a sense of what one could be.
@Fellow Citizen –
Yes.
How many Americans in 1776 knew the name John Locke? Our Democracy was designed and implemented by thinkers and Humanists and it will be preserved by the same class of people, be they many or few.
More than do so now,at least percentage wise.
“Donald Trump launched into a bizarre riff on Thursday night, …”
And shit flows downhill.
Holy shit, did Benito write this. Sweet Chocolate Batman, I am still laughing…