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In 2002, Brazil’s left-of-center Workers’ Party (PT) ascended to the presidency when Lula da Silva won in a landslide over the candidate of the center-right PSDB party (throughout 2002, “markets” were indignant at the mere prospect of PT’s victory). The PT remained in power when Lula, in 2006, was re-elected in another landslide against a different PSDB candidate. PT’s enemies thought they had their chance to get rid of PT in 2010, when Lula was barred by term limits from running again, but their hopes were crushed when Lula’s handpicked successor, the previously unknown Dilma Rousseff, won by 12 points over the same PSDB candidate who lost to Lula in 2002. In 2014, PT’s enemies poured huge amounts of money and resources into defeating her, believing that she was vulnerable and they had finally found a star PSDB candidate, but they lost again, this time narrowly, as Dilma was re-elected with 54 million votes.
In sum, PT has won four straight national elections — the last one occurring just 18 months ago. Its opponents have vigorously tried — and failed — to defeat it at the ballot box, largely due to PT’s support among Brazil’s poor and working classes.
So if you’re a plutocrat with ownership of the nation’s largest and most influential media outlets, what do you do? You dispense with democracy altogether — after all, it keeps empowering candidates and policies you dislike — by exploiting your media outlets to incite unrest and then install a candidate who could never get elected on his own, yet will faithfully serve your political agenda and ideology.
That’s exactly what Brazil is going to do today. The Brazilian Senate will vote later today to agree to a trial on the lower House’s impeachment charges, which will automatically result in Dilma’s suspension from the presidency pending the end of the trial.
Her successor will be Vice President Michel Temer of the PMDB party (pictured above). So unlike impeachment in most other countries with a presidential system, impeachment here will empower a person from a different party than that of the elected president. In this particular case, the person to be installed is awash in corruption: He is accused by informants of involvement in an illegal ethanol-purchasing scheme; he was just found guilty of, and fined for, election-spending violations and faces an eight-year ban on running for any office. He’s deeply unpopular; only 2 percent would support him for president and almost 60 percent wants him impeached (the same number that favors Dilma’s impeachment). But he will faithfully serve the interests of Brazil’s richest: He’s planning to appoint Goldman Sachs and IMF officials to run the economy and otherwise install a totally unrepresentative, neoliberal team (composed in part of the same party — PSDB — that has lost four straight elections to the PT).
None of this is a defense of PT. That party — as even Lula acknowledged to me in my interview with him — is filled with serious corruption. Dilma, in many critical ways, has been a failed president, and she is deeply unpopular. They have often aligned with and served the country’s elite at the expense of their base of poor supporters. The country is suffering economically and in almost every other way.
But the solution to that is to defeat them at the ballot box, not simply remove them and replace them with someone more suitable to the nation’s richest. Whatever damage PT is doing to Brazil, the plutocrats and their journalist-propagandists and the band of thieves in Brasilia engineering this travesty are far more dangerous. They are literally dismantling — crushing — democracy in the world’s fifth-largest country. Even The Economist — which is hostile to even the most moderate left-wing parties, hates PT, and wants Dilma to resign — has denounced impeachment as “a pretext for ousting an unpopular president” and just two weeks ago warned that “what is alarming is that those who are working for her removal are in many ways worse.” Before he became an active plotter in his own empowerment, Temer himself said last year that “impeachment is unthinkable, would create an institutional crisis. There is no judicial or political basis for it.”
The biggest scam of all is that Brazilian media elites are justifying all of this in the name of “corruption” and “democracy.” How can anyone who is minimally rational believe this is about “corruption” when they’re about to install as president someone far more implicated in corruption than the person they’re removing, and when the factions to be empowered are corrupt beyond what can be described? And if they were really concerned with “democracy,” why wouldn’t they also impeach Temer and hold new elections, letting voters decide who should replace Dilma? The answer is obvious: New elections would almost certainly result in a victory for Lula or other candidates they dislike, so what they fear most is letting the Brazilian population decide who will govern them. That is the very definition of the destruction of democracy.
Beyond obvious global significance, the reason I’ve spent so much time and energy writing about these events is because it’s been astonishing — and unnerving — to watch it all unfold, particularly given how the country’s dominant media, owned by a tiny handful of rich families, allow almost no plurality of opinion. Instead, as Reporters Without Borders put it earlier this month: “In a barely veiled manner, the leading national media have urged the public to help bring down President Dilma Rousseff. The journalists working for these media groups are clearly subject to the influence of private and partisan interests, and these permanent conflicts of interests are clearly very detrimental to the quality of their reporting.”
As someone who has lived in Brazil for 11 years, it’s been inspiring and invigorating to watch a country of 200 million people throw off the shackles of a 21-year-old right-wing (U.S./U.K. supported) military dictatorship and mature into a young, vibrant democracy and then thrive under it. To see how quickly and easily that can be reversed — abolished in all but name only — is both sad and frightening to watch. It’s also an important lesson for those, in countries all over the world, who blithely assume that things will continue as is or that they’re guaranteed stability and ongoing progress.
Last week, I spoke to Democracy Now for about 10 minutes on why I think these developments in Brazil are so significant:
I am brazilian and I disagree wholeheartedly with this story.
Was she elected with 54 million votes? Yes. After she lied throughout her campaign and masked the real economic situation of the country and the actions she was going to take. (Just do your research on her campaign speeches and the actions she took right after taking office)
Was the impeachment “performed” without political inclinations? No, of course not.
Does that make it unconstitutional or a coup? No, it a democratic tool, approved by the majority of the senate and congress and by most of the people. Or did you forget her approval rates were in the single digits just a few months ago?
I seriously can’t understand how you can be so blind… There are intelectuals (Noam Chomsky), a Nobel winner (Adolfo Pérez Esquivel), two Pulitzer winner reposters (Gleenwald and Maurício Lima) and also right-wing journals (The Economist) saying that what is happening in Brazil is a coup or openly anti-democratic (http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21695391-tarnished-president-should-now-resign-time-go).
I also could add to this list many important brazilian jurists, musicians, artists etc.
The only people saying that this is an impeachment is a “jurist” that showed her middle finger to people and talked about the “snake republic” (WTF?), a porn actor who is a deputy now, and horrible musicians who everbody in Brazil laughs off. Could this be more embarrasing? Stop shaming yourself.
You’re here because you know this narrative “fighting against corruption” doesn’t fit the bill. There are no countries ready to recognize Temer exactly because everybody knows it is a coup.
They should hire better liars, because this sounds so stupid, so dumb. If the americans or any other nationalities insist in this stupidity, they will seriously demoralized in Olympics.
headlines 16 may 2016
MARIE ANTOINETTE TEMER
NYC shopping trips, two maids… and a VERY racy Playboy photo shoot: Brazil’s glamorous new first lady (who’s 42 years younger than her husband) is attacked over her ‘Marie Antoinette’ spending as economy crumbles ahead of Rio Olympics
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3592502/New-York-shopping-trips-two-maids-racy-Playboy-photo-shoot-Brazil-s-new-lady-freeloading-family-attacked-Marie-Antoinette-spending-country-s-economy-crumbles-ahead-Rio-Olympics.html
The native media is not reliable. It is clearly committed with the dark side of the coup.
see as well the invaluable James Petras:
The Left: Business Accommodation and Social Debacle
http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=2081
What is most disconcerting is that the “public” bought their media’s story and hooked into the will of the elites, with almost no hesitation. They only had to point to a couple of visible failures and she gets all the blame. How easy that was.
I’m brazilian and I totally agree with you. It’ extremely embarassing to see these people attacking Rousseff just because the media spread false informations. 54 millions of people in Brazil are victims of these legion of idiots.
But we’re stll fighting.
I’m brazilian and I totally disagree with you. It’s extremely embarassing to see these mercenaries attacking the impeachment just because the bought media spread gov’t propaganda. 200 millions of citizens in Brazil are victims of this camarilla of criminals.
But we’re still fighting.
Ok, little sheep. You certainly deserve the pig’s government, but 54 millions of people against the coup also live in this country.
Fortunately, we’ve got people like Greewald by our side.
And I don’t want to concern you, but I don’t think Obama is ready to create an anti-american feeling in 54 millions of brazilians, or to face contrary declarations of Nobel prizes, famous journalists and fantastic musicians and important brazilian jurists. And I say that, because we will seriously rethink about our “friendship” with all the countries who openly recognize Temer. Specially United States.
A government must to be recognize by its people, and for most brazilians, Temer is just a failed poet who looks like a “butler in a horror movie”.
Have a good day!
Brazil has just been Ukrainized. Without vaseline and by the usual suspects. (look to the northern hemisphere…)
Now I understand your comment. Thanks. You’re right.
Thanks for the sheep.
“Ok, little sheep. You certainly deserve the pig’s government, but 54 millions of people against the coup also live in this country.”
The 54M figure is voters that refer to people who voted for Dilma, not to the people against the impeachment. Since the elections her approval shrunk to single digits, which would be 20M citizens or about 10M voters. So, about 4 out 5 voters who elected Dilma are now against her.
” … or to face contrary declarations of Nobel prizes, famous journalists and fantastic musicians and important brazilian jurists.”
Brazilians no longer recognize the radical chic intelligentsia. Especially the ones who develop their work around money subsidized by the government out of taxpayers money (i.e. “fantastic musicians”, “famous journalists” and “important brazilian jurists”) which – imagine that?! – are unanimous in favor of PT.
“A government must to be recognize by its people, and for most brazilians, Temer is just a failed poet who looks like a “butler in a horror movie”.”
I can agree to that (to some extent). But Dilma is no longer recognized by its people either. Temer government will be a short one, since their election (Dilma/Temer) process on the electoral court is running and they will most certainly be found guilty of using dirty money on the campaign based on Lava-jato findings.
May you have a nice day either.
Warm regards, my fellow brazilian.
The bottom line, Thomas, is that a coup is a coup, and in a democracy, you wait until you express yourself by electing another leader. You seem to know Dilma’s shortcomings, but just ask yourself: could it be that Dilma was not really allowed to govern? Is the answer, then, to give governance to thugs who stole it from an elected president? to give up the democratic process altogether? To entrust the task of firefighters to the arsonists themselves?
Well Gyula, the problem is, most people don’t seem to understand the political arrangement we live in. People overrate democracy above the laws. Democracy is an attribute of the system we live in, not the system itself. We are a republic; we have laws that apply to each and every one citizen. Lady Justice is portrayed in every other republic around the globe being blindfolded, for she is not to judge the citizen, but the acts of such citizen. Dilma and Temer were elected *together* democratically. No one in Brazil disputes that. They agreed to be running mates in the ballot *together*. But while this democratic election process legitimates them at the Presidency, it surely does not empower them to act at their own will, making them special citizens above the law. Said that, wishing that everybody agrees with these premises, we must move on to acts of Dilma as president.
We have state-run (federal level) energy companies of all sorts: electrical, oil, gas, nuclear; we have state-run banks of all sorts: development, commercial etc; state run utilities, and the list goes on. On the last 13 years of PT in power, the scandals list is huge; the Petrolão one has so astronomical numbers that makes it the GREATEST CORRUPTION SCANDAL EVER KNOWN IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND. Here’s a top 100 sample of the party modus operandi: http://www.implicante.org/blog/pt-um-partido-100-escandalos/
What triggered her trial, is her (and her staff’s) fingerprints on the misuse of several of these companies, allocating the members of the camarilla on top positions of the mentioned companies, and then draining them up in PT’s favor in such way that one of our Supreme Court’s Justice labeled it as “um projeto criminoso de poder” to stay in power ad infinitum, the party takeover of the Brazilian state. With this allegation, PT is not viewed as a party anymore, but as a gang; making every decent affiliated politician flee from it. And we have strict laws preventing the Executive using the banks it has control over for the purpose of using their money on the Executive’s bugdetary demands. Not only Dilma used the banks to boost their welfare programs and lift uf her ratings, but also hide these operations on the banks and treasury ballances to mask the huge deficit, in the very year of the election. That’s not mismanaging. That’s theft, robbery, confidence trick, perjury. In any respectable country, she would not be impeached, but be in prison.
What really happened in Brazil is that (alongside with Lava-jato/carwash), when the Speaker on the House of Representatives accepted the impeachment denounce, starting the process, he just opened the Pandora Box. The outcome is unpredictable. How many will fall is a wild guess. We hope as many as the investigations make possible.
So answering your questions, (1) no, no such thing as she wasn’t allowed to govern, for until just now she had overwhelming majority in the congress; and issued decrees/executive orders when she wanted to steamroll congress prerogatives.(2) The Presidency is not being given to thugs, for she is the only to blame BECAUSE SHE CHOOSED AND ACCEPTED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. The next in line – Temer – is her fault, not the of citizens who issued the impeachment process. Temer is constitutionally the next in line. Any other person taking over would, then, be a coup. (3) As explained above, the democratically election process is not trashed for Dilma run with Temer – with the pic of both in the ballot – and they *together* won 54M votes. (4) The firefighter’s task now is up to the Judiciary branch of the state, which until now is doing an excellent job expelling the sinners of the Executive and Legislative branches.
Thomas my friend, debating with PT supporters are a waste of time. I wouldn’t waste mine. Besides, people who come here are just checking the nonsense brought by this Glenn Greenwald.
Guto, my fellow, I know. The deranged minds of the leftists are beyond salvation.
But instead of trying to debate these people, this is rather a rebuttal of this article aimed to the outsiders. It’s making a point and asserting we brazilians are sovereign, won’t accept interference, and most important – that’s what this is all about – this is the brazilian people purging and defeating, towards our republican institutions, the criminal BRASILIA MACHINE (PT et caterva).
It’s about the narrative war going on. It’s time consuming, but we must show what’s really going on, on the risk of their shameful lies being accepted as the true history.
Gyula, impeachment is constitutional, it can only happens in a democracy and to someone who is elected. It doesn’t exist in a dictatorship, for example. This is the second impeachment that happens in Brazil. In 1992 another president was impeached and Brazil has survived to this, nobody said it was a coup. It’s totally democratic.
What surprises me is that there are not 20 million people taking the streets yet.By the way, they are not a legion of idiots, they are a legion of MF.
I know it is hard to understand what its happenning now if you don’t live in Brazil, but I’ll try to explain quickly.
When the brazilian media showed all the manifestations against Rousseff, with millions of people in the whole country, they tryed to interpret them as spontaneus popular protests, but this is not even close to the truth. Companies as (Atlas, Students for Liberty, FIESP etc.) invested a huge amount of money to foment the population to ask for the impeachment. They did a fantastic and extremely expensive structure (with goodly protest banners, huge rubber dolls, confortable tents etc.) to convince people to go to the streets. Concomitantly, the media (conposed with 5 different newspapers and three different TV channels) attacked PT and Rousseff every single day through more than three years.
And even with this unbelievable support, they lost the elections in 2014 and are facing now a huge resistence of brazilian population. Can’t you see how important is this? The manifestations does not have many people, but they are totally spontaneus (without PT intervention). The brazilian media is openly hated and demoralized.
PT seems to be waiting for the right moment to organize a huge protest, but the spontaneous resistence is happening every day here (composed mostly by women and girls).
When Lula took the brazilian government, he changed brazilians life completly. He invested so much in education and because of it, brazilian people are with the eyes opened for the first time.
They want to show that they won, but this is just another lie to convience the idiots. They didn’t. The game isn’t over.
Glenn Greenwald for SCOTUS!!!
Are U.S. fingerprints on this?
Sure makes one wonder. Doesn’t it?
It most definitely is…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/14/report-gop-mega-donor-adelson-to-give-trump-up-to-100-million.html
And just after this coup. Temer is a US Intel Informant. Wall St. is behind it all.
On the other hand, examine how well “democracy” worked in Venezuela where the least productive voted themselves a socialist set of leaders in hopes of obtaining a bigger piece of the pie. Today, there is no pie in V, nor is there much bread or even grain from which to make beer. Universal suffrage in a democracy permits the triumph of the peasants…starvation. Peasants are fertile, too, so produce more peasant voters. Where does that lead?
Pleased that you have raised the deepening crisis in Venezuela since it is important to consider why democracy is under attack there also.The causation of the food shortages,and the deepening crisis, appears to being caused by the economic war being waged against Venezuela, and by factory owners deliberately halting production. A report in the BBC news today is very revealing :
BBC News ” Venezuela crisis: Maduro threatens seizure of closed factories”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36294939
“The threat to seize closed factories came after Venezuela’s largest food and beverage company, the Polar Group, halted production of beer, blaming government mismanagement for stopping it importing barley.
The group’s billionaire owner, Lorenzo Mendoza, is a fierce critic of President Maduro.
“We must take all measures to recover productive capacity, which is being paralysed by the bourgeoisie,” Mr Maduro told a rally in Caracas.
“Anyone who wants to halt [production] to sabotage the country should get out, and those who do must be handcuffed and sent to the PGV [Venezuelan General Penitentiary],” he said.
“We’re going to tell imperialism and the international right that the people are present, with their farm instruments in one hand and a gun in the other… to defend this sacred land,” he added.
There are severe shortages of food, medicines and basic goods which Mr Maduro argues are due to business leaders and the US waging an economic war against his government.”
Sabotage by the industrials??
yeah, right…
it has nothing to do with the populist goververnment being utter incompetent, economy illiterate, and arrogant & despotic on top of that…
https://youtu.be/OQuHL10ekEw
https://youtu.be/mRIwr97bbh8
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There’s something I never understand regarding socialist enthusiasts:
“There are severe shortages of food, medicines and basic goods which Mr Maduro argues are due to business leaders and the US waging an economic war against his government.”
Why do you complain about economic wars (like in this case and like cuban embargo) if you are opposed to free trade, free commerce, and free economic flow of capital? Arent the socialist countries supposed to be self sustainable??? Or hypocrisy much??
“it has nothing to do with the industrialists” lol You of course know better than the President of Venezuela ? The World should take your word for this ? You even describe it as an “economic war” later in your comments, which endorses what the Venezuelan President has said. The unrest is being engineered by a few wealthy elite factory owners, and the usual Western Imperialists who are waging an economic war of sanctions against the country and disrupting it’s supply chain and food production.
I have not said that I am opposed to free trade, but what is happening is not free trade. You should read and learn about the recent so called free trade pacs that the US has formed through very secretive discussions with its major global corporations. These free trade pacs will allow powerful US corporations to ride over a countries sovereign laws and to sue governments that get in their way. The trade pacs will result in higher prices of essential goods including medicines, and will destroy legislation protecting the environment and local businesses.
All countries would benefit from becoming self sufficient, and to achieve this people must reject capitalism which is unsustainable, and failing. People have to reject materialism, and the I doctrine of greed. If people learn that happiness cannot be achieved through acquiring more and more possessions , and simplified, then the Worlds resources would not be getting depleted as they are today. This would also prevent further damage to the World’s climate, which threatens us all. Self sufficiency is not usually a policy of socialist or right wing governments, but it should become advocated, adopted and practiced by every individual in this World.
A good book on this is “The wisdom of sustainability” by Sulak Sivaska.
What I never really understand about people that seem so enthusiastic about capitalism and globalisation is their failure to recognise that the system is unsustainable. They cannot recognise that capitalism has delivered greater inequality, and the majority of the Worlds population are in poverty. Capitalism has depleted the Worlds resources, damaged the environment, and it has resulted in death and destruction.
Let’s hope that the Venezuelan government can solve it’s own problems, and that they will be left to do that, free from interference, and unwanted interventions by any Imperialist forces or economic trade wars. By the looks of the BBC report they will take the necessary steps to get their factories up and running again, and hopefully this will solve the food shortages, that are causing unrest.
The Workers Party (PT) is not socialist!
They helped the brazilian population with some populist measures, but this is VERY different than socialism.
And the poor brazilians aren’t the “least productive” in our nation, they are the people who proportionally pay more taxes, besides being enslaved.
Of course this is completly fine for you, since your’re not one of this people or have to face them in misery every single day.
If instigating a coup under false Justifications to oust a democratically elected President was not bad enough.Brazil’s President, Michel Temer,has now initiated a shift to the right, changing a left wing government into a right wing one without even calling an election.
Democracy Now reports :
“With Rousseff Out, Brazil’s Interim President Installs Conservative All-White, All-Male Cabinet”
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/5/13/with_rousseff_out_brazils_interim_president
Se você votasse saberia que na urna aparece a foto dos dois, presidente e vice, e não apenas do presidente. Ele foi sim eleito.
Greenwald, “jornalista” mais sensacionalista da internet. Digno de blogzinho amador
Eu não votei na Dilma/Temer! Votei no projeto de governo apresentado pela candidata a presidente em 2014.
Foi o projeto apresentado por ela que ganhou, e apesar dos seus erros e contradições, NADA pode justificar um governo golpista se apropriar de um cargo ilegitimamente para mudar por completo o projeto estabelecido até 2018.
Vocês são como as ovelhas do George Orwell. Certamente merecem o governo dos porcos.
United States’s Democracy to Suffer Grievous Blow as Unelectable, Corrupt Neoliberal is Installed.
I can predict potential headlines right up through next January.
The FInancial Times is trying to portray the coup as the demise of the left, and saying that it will echo across the Americas, showing that corruption will no longer be tolerated. What a total joke, and pathetic description of a coup which has installed a new President that is implicated in more corruption than the person he replaced, and who, it has now been revealed has links to the US government as a US intelligence informant.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/blackrocks-landers-sees-new-brazil-government-boosting-economy-1463175763
A coup it would seem…
Wikileaks has some interesting Tweets about the new President and connections to the US Government:
#Brazil’s #Dilma slayer, now president, #Temer, passed sensitive polical info to US intel
Brasil’s #Dilma ousted in parliamentary coup; new pres is US embassy informant Michel Temer
https://www.rt.com/news/342933-temer-us-brazil-spying/
Brazil’s acting President used to be US Intel Informant – WikiLeaks
Glenn please consider leaving that county, Obama will come after you next for helping Edward Snowden blow the whistle. You are the most important journalist of our generation. God bless you and all the work you do!
“Rise up, warriors, take your stand at one another’s sides, our feet set wide and rooted like oaks in the ground. “
For someone who introduces himself as a constitutional lawyer, and speaks portuguese properly, the author is not doing his homework properly..
If you want to have a grasp on what is going on in Brazil, please have a look on the law yourself and take your own conclusions. No bias, direct on the core:
– On the Impeachment trial:
Brazilian constitution:
https://translate.google.com.br/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planalto.gov.br%2Fccivil_03%2FConstituicao%2FConstituicaoCompilado.htm
Take a look on articles 85-V and VI and sole paragraph, 86-§1st-II, and then on 51-I and 52-I;
The 1079/50 bill, the law referenced and the constitution’s art 85 sole paragraph.:
https://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.planalto.gov.br%2Fccivil_03%2Fleis%2FL1079.htm&edit-text=&act=url
Article 10, items 4, 6 and 9, where the impeachment request is based upon
– on the vice president, as running mate, and taking office after the president, and the succession line:
Constitution, art. 77-I;
Constitution, art 79;
Constitution, art 80;
Feel free to dispute what’s going on. So far our republic is running, despite the coup yelling…
….so that would make the informed idiot….
Thank you for your post with links to the constitution, but having read through it I am left wondering just how constitutional it is for :
1. A Vice President to be installed as President when they are “far more implicated in corruption than the person he replaced”
2. The public to have elected a centre left government through the democratic process, only for the installed replacement to appoint a Conservative right wing cabinet – shifting the government to the right without an election. Correct me if I am wrong but I am certain that the right were rejected at the last election, and the majority of Brazilians voted for, and elected a center left government.
3.For the new President to be accused of being a secret US intelligence informant, according to Wikileaks :
https://www.rt.com/news/342933-temer-us-brazil-spying/
Brazil’s acting President used to be US Intel Informant – WikiLeaks
If correct then just how constitutional should spying on the government of Brazil be considered to be ?
Looks like in reality that you may need to do a little more homework to get a grip on reality, and to understand the true nature of this scam instigated coup, and the corrupt dark forces behind it. Maybe then you will see it for what it is which is an unconstitutional, attack on democracy.
Thank you Mister for making an educated counter point.
1. That’s disputed. First off all, of all corruption in the federal government that spiked this turmoil, has nothing to do with him, and so far he has no accusations because of those. The link regarding his corruption at G1 the author gave, if you read carefully, only states something that was not ruled yet by the courts. And compared the billions of PT, the roughly 5000 USD he donate above the electoral law’s limit, is neglectful. Anyways, for the sake of the argument, if he was already convicted, according to the constitution – art. 86-§4 – he cannot be judged for this offence while he is in office, because it happened before he took office. This is the same expedient Dilma has so she won’t be judged by corruption cases such as the Pasadena refinery until she leaves office. I don’t sympathize with him either, but so far he has nothing against him. And most importantly, it is not we Brazilians want Temer taking office, we want Dilma out. It is not about the consequences, but about the premises.
2. He is not a conservative himself, neither his party for there isn’t a conservative or right wing party in Brazil. We use to say Brazil has 50 shades of red, with almost parties placed in the left spectrum. Dilma (PT) won against Neves, whose party (PSDB) is a social democrat one, which by all means, is a lefty one. In fact, all welfare programs PT proudly brags about was initiated by former president FHC (PSDB) but that’s beside the point. Temer’s party (PMDB) is catch-all one, has no ideology, and is centrist. Regarding his cabinet, you can label him fiscally responsible, but not even fiscally conservative. And regarding it being all-male all-white, we’re sick and tired of this victimism. We couldn’t care less about their skin color, what they have (or not) between their legs, whom they worship or sleep with. But make no mistake about it, we don’t care about them either, we will shut them too in case of corruption. And the right in Brazil is yet to show its face.
3. That link shows nothing feasible of treason, just amenities. And better talking with USA than with FORO DE SAO PAULO (google it if you don’t know them). But if the papers reveal such thing as treason, we won’t lose our sleep taking him down. We don’t choose outlaws; we want all of them gone, Dilma leading the way. We the people just started getting used with the streets.
4. We are not a democracy nor we intend to be. We are a republic, which elects the governing body democratically, just as Dilma and Temer were ellected together, to govern under the res publica (i.e. the law).
Neoliberals are loathsome but Rousseff made this disaster all by herself. As millions of her people languished in poverty she decided to waste hundreds of millions on the World Cup and Olympics and she herself engaged in corrupt and untoward practices. No one forced her to do these things. She became corrupted by power and failed to do what was right and what was moral. We all remember the stories and images of people quite literally starving in their hovels next to gleaming new soccer stadiums. Where was she then? What concern, through investment in infrastructure, did she show? The story here is not that neoliberals lifted democracy from under the grasp of a democratically elected government; their dirty tricks are to be expected. No, the real story is how a once seemingly decent woman allowed herself to fall prey to the kind of institutionalized corruption, greed and stupidity of which neoliberals have made an art. She has no one to blame but herself. As always, the poor and under-represented will pay the price.
Glenn Greenwald has proven to be a faithful soldier of Lula and his Partido dos Trabalhadores. That is why Lula granted him a rare exclusive interview. Therefore, his articles contain not serious analyses, but only the resentful and vile words of a political militant.
It is fortunate that Glenn is living in Brazil. The real truth here is, like a hard to ckill monster in a horror flick, as long as capital exists, it will come back. Progress not inevitable. As the nighmarish history of America shows, being the province of imperialism has consequences.
The elite and Globo are taking one hell of a huge gamble that there won’t be a massive backlash from PT supporters, and from those that value democracy in Brazil.
“Literally crushing and dismantling democracy” whilst “installing a totally unrepresentative neo liberal team (composed in part of the same party – PSDB that has lost four straight elections to the PT)” The Brazilian people must not allow the elite to destroy Brazilian democracy, and must protest on mass to secure an immediate election. The Brazilian people must be allowed to decide who should replace Dilma.
This is one of many moves the neos have contributed towards the undoing of democracy worldwide in their push for a one world govt. Look at the P-P-E program offered in the UK university system (and increasing numbers of US schools) as the main driver of the confluence of corporate and govt. power. Combining these subjects can only lead to corporatism, oligarchy, and if/when necessary, fascism. It’s gonna get worse before it gets better.
A cursory review of multiple American news outlets reveals a jarring lack of information on the corruption investigation against Temer and his party. A select few mention in passing that 60% of Congress is under investigation, but they never draw the link between the two.
Also, has anyone investigated the link between the NSA beginning its spying campaign on Brazilian politicians and Petrobras in 2010/2011, and the way the Brazilian police just so happened to stumble upon the money launderer who knew everything about the operation. The story reeks of parallel construction, especially considering the obvious benefit to the US that a pro-business regime is being installed.
A cursory review of multiple American news outlets reveals a jarring lack of information on the corruption investigation against Temer and his party.
WILD guess here. The fix to remove the democratically elected leader – also which the wallhor media wont detail – is because after the evilish task is completed, the wallhor media will begin touting new wallhor financing deals with corporats by amazing agreements? just a wild guess.
This whole predatory powergrabbing is no different than what prior empires went thru during the times of say, East India Tea Company. Are we getting to the point where having your boss killed – and having it appear and deemed a suicide via bribes, stupidity, party affiliation, whatever – is a way to get promoted?
If the US is behind it, then it could legitimately be called a coup. It seems the only people who are pursing this angle is Kremlin-backed media. US-based media are taking the approach that such actions by the US would be unthinkable, despite decades of evidence to the contrary. See Honduras 2009, Haiti 2004, Venezuela 2002, etc.
Telesur from South America is also calling this a coup along with Wikileaks which made some interesting tweets that the new President, Michel Temer, is a US Embassy informant.
Michel Temer is a traitor. Where is the Brazil’s credibility? He is naming 7 out of the 22 ministers accused of corruption and bribery. And the Justice Minister was from a huge criminal organisation (PCC Primeiro Comando) accord to many jornalists have noticed. Today, the Minister of the Supreme Court (STF) prohibited Senator Aecio Neves’ investigation of corruption and bribery. Federal Police found 450 kilos of cocaine in a helicopter inside his property. Brazil is governed by a very dangerous and corrupted group of politicians.
“he will faithfully serve the interests of Brazil’s richest: he’s planning to appoint Goldman, Sachs and IMF officials to run the economy”
Dear Watson:
Enclosed is additional impressive evidence presented today by this Glenn Greenwald I informed you about recently.
He is building a crucial case that could be vital in our efforts to stave off the disastrous effects of this worldwide corporate conspiracy. My further investigations have clearly identified Professor Morality’s hand in the master plan.
I discovered a “University of Zurich study ‘proves’ that a small group of companies – mainly banks – wields huge power over the global economy. The study found that 147 companies formed a ‘super entity’ within the global community of transnational corporations. The Swiss researchers have no axe to grind: they simply applied mathematical models usually used to model natural systems to the world economy, using data from Orbis 2007, a database listing 37 million companies and investors.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2051008/Does-super-corporation-run-global-economy.html#ixzz2RHcq4KXR
This Mr. Glenn Greenwald has a group of fellow writers and what is known as bloggers that aide him in gathering and sharing of data and evidence. They have been reported recently to be growing in strength and stature. Enclosed are examples of their contributions. You will notice names like Karl, muefish, barrabbas, Mister, feline16, Mona and many more that consistently contribute mounting evidence to build their case.
Mr.. Greenwald appears to be the Robin Hood of his day. He resides within his Sherwood Forest full of writers and bloggers fighting a battle for the poor against the feudal lords of their day.
Your friend,
Sherlock
Thank you for the recognition Fellow Citizen, and I count you as one of Glenn’s “merry men” too. It is the duty of every citizen to disseminate and share the revelations and investigative journalism of The Intercept. We need to use Social Media and viral marketing more, and to continue sharing links. The propaganda and disinformation spread by the mass mainstream media has to be challenged. Freedom of speech is under attack, and political leaders and governments are becoming more extreme, breaching International Humanitarian laws, committing war crimes and corrupting the political landscape, and destroying democracy. These corporatised and militarised governments have fused with intelligence agencies and are misusing technology for mass surveillance, industrial espionage and to further their imperialist ambitions.
The resistance is growing through our combined efforts, and through people becoming more aware of the threat posed by the elites and their corporations and financial institutions. the establishments candidates have been rejected in the American Presidential elections, and it is essential that Hillary Clinton is defeated to avoid a continuation of the Bush and Obama administrations policies. We need new political parties, and more fearless journalists to come together to become the new mainstream media. We need to force our existing corporatised governments to change their ways and to serve us the people. To work for a fairer system for everyone, and not to just serve the selfish and greedy, already massively rich elite. now is the moment , as the resistance is gaining momentum, the tide is turning. The elites attack on the middle classes, eroding their incomes has created a great opportunity to build on the growing dissent. We cannot allow these criminals to steal our children’s future. nobody should want to live in a World that is becoming a dystopia, and they must not be allowed to continue to self perpetuate their dirty wars of profit. They must not be allowed to disrupt and overthrow democratically elected leaders and governments abroad. Foreign governments must recognise the threats posed by trade pacs, and from the IMF, World Bank and from so called Western modernisation. They must examine carefully and consider who will benefit from new technologies, and the transformation to a Digital economy. Who ultimately will benefit, will it be their people, their companies, their countries, or will it be Western corporations that will steal their economies.people must unite to fight for a fairer taxation system and for loop holes to be closed which allow the elites and their corporations to escape paying their taxes. We need honest and strong political leaders who cannot be bought, and who will fight injustice and corruption. We are many and they are few, so let’s come together, collaborate and all become activists to force change and to clean this sewer.
This is not just a battle for the poor, or for the survival of socialism – this is a battle for everyone to unite against the criminality, and corruption of the elite, and their establishment. To say enough is enough, this stops now, change or we change you. Together we can create a better and fairer World with less suffering, and far less inequality.
Your friend,
Holmes (aka Mister)
The fires built by the 99% of Occupy may have been stamped out, but their embers spread throughout the planet existing in the hearts and spirits of the oppressed combined with writings such as you present here are our greatest source of enlightenment.
Micah White, the creator of the Occupy Wall Street movement wrote a great book “The end of protest” which challenges the current protest rut and outlines how activists must innovate to progress to the next level.the book explains how materialism limits contemporary activism, and shows how social movements can be created and spread effectively. The collapse of democracy can be reversed, and the book explains how new sophisticated movements can be created with the capability of dominating elections and governing our cities.
Another great book which shows how change can be achieved through rejecting materialism is “The wisdom of sustainability”by Sulak Sivaraksa.
I believe that the spirit of Occupy will never die, and that the embers are still white hot, glowing in the hearts and minds of the oppressed masses. The storm clouds are gathering for the selfish and greedy elite and their criminal enterprises, gaining momentum, and the winds of change are getting stronger.
Umm Glen, in your interview did you ask Lula about big coorporatins giving him beach front triplex, or a fully equipped ranch? No? didn´t think so. Did you ask about his son becoming a billionaire in a few years ? No? Didn´t think so.Did you wonder how while under Dilma´s chairmanship, Petrobras bought a 100 miillion dollars refinery in Pasadena Texas for 1.2 billlion dollars. No? Didn´t think so. You mentioned that the opposition spent millions trying to defeat her in 2014. Didn´t you know that PT spent way much more for big coorporations and money stolen from Petrobras? That the Dilma´s marketeers are in prision and have confessed receiveing 20 million dollars in Switzerland. Of course you new all that , Glen… and much more. It just doesn´t fit your agenda. Now, me and million of middle class brazillians are footing this horrendous bill, and you bet your ass we are fu**ing mad. So why don´t you pack your bags and move to your leftist paradize: Cuba? You´ll love it there. Trust me Glen.
Very simple and misleading article. Just to correct a sentence: “In sum, PT has won four straight national elections – the last one occurring just 18 months ago. Its opponents have vigorously tried – and failed – to defeat them at the ballot box, largely due to PT’s support among Brazil’s poor and working classes.”
It should read: “largely due to Petrobras/Eletrobras laundered money and blatant lies” during the election.
M Greenwald just forget that the GDP of Brasil has decreased some 3% last years.And they are spending billion of dollars in an Olympic game that they cannot afford.
They have squandered money providing food for the poor, instead of creating jobs, with a strategy to continue exporting goods.
People forget that Brazilian burocrats go on pension with 55 years.
And the list of wrong thing is almost infinite.
Yes Ms Rouseff did not pocket any money, but the story that she did not know is impossible about the corruption is not believable
This is a good result for Latin America and the world all over.
The real sin of Ms Rouseff was the “political lie”, promising a standard of living to all , that only industrious countries like Sweden or Danemark can afford.
And the purpose of it is to get elected.
IN a better world all the promises of politicians , before election, should be tested before and afterwarda.
And if they are way off, this persone should go to jail for telling lies. “Political Lies”.
I pretend no expertise on Brazil but this seems to me to just another example of “The Empire striking back”. It is happening all over the world and it’s really scary. The elites had wanted to do this after the New Deal but were held back for many reasons, fear of Communism being one. Now, it’s open season on the working class. Unions destroyed or corrupted, the Media as corporate propaganda; even Sesame Street sold to a corporation so if Disney don’t get you, HBO, another pay network will. PBS and NPR are “sponsored” as the “richest country in the history of the world can’t afford Public media”. We are living in the Brave New World, with the mailed fist of 1984s Big Brother for those who dare to resist the LED Pacifier.
Glenn… Where do you and your family go now ?? Sounds like Brazil has taken a very ugly turn for the worse here…
PLEASE be careful.
Please do not take seriously the desperate version from ex-president Dilma Rousseff in the international press. She’s definitely not been victim of a coup or a political sabotage. She was correctly removed from government after a 100% legal process that took place because her party PT robbed billions (yes, you read it right, billions) from Brazil’s biggest company – among many other crimes. We still have a long way to go, but the first right step we took was to get rid of Dilma and her gang. With Dilma out, today is D-Day for Brazil. Thank you for your suppport.
I agree with Glenn on the corruption and the absurdity of VP Temer replacing Rousseff as president. But Glenn must be more intellectually honest about the effects of socialism in not just Brazil but in Venezuela. Leftists never seem to learn economic lessons due to their wrong-headed ideology.
Well I don’t believe it was “socialism” that nearly crashed the entire world’s economy in 2007/2008 for which the world is still trying to recover from – which also effected countries like Brazil and Venezuela.
Mr. Greenwald… One thing that I do wonder about this coup is that if there is a Washington connection, as there usually is in Latin America and much of the world. All that one has to do is look at Venezuela in 2002 and funding by USAID along with the National Endowment for Democracy for the coup plotters. Al Jazeera wrote of USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy funding the coup plotters in Egypt as well to oust Morsi. Then let us not forget about the coup in Honduras in 2009 which was undertaken by a graduate of the School of the Americas (now WHINSEC) located in Fort Benning, Georgia. Add in USAID being caught in Cuba in, I believe, 2010 trying to institute “regime change” by creating ZunZuneo (Cuban Twitter) – as the Associated Press wrote about. Then also let’s not forget about Ukraine where you have Victoria Nuland blatantly discussing whom she wished to lead the country, “Yats is the guy”, and how Banki-Moon could “midwife this thing” and then sure enough Ukraine ended up with an “American” becoming their Finance Minister who used to work for “USAID” in Ukraine.
I would just be willing to bet that behind the scenes the United States is very active in this “coup” as a possible attempt to break up the BRICS and put the world’s 5th largest populace country back under the US umbrella. Sad day for democracy…
Temer’s nominations are an indictment of what Brazil will face. This old right, conservative, white Brazilian groups represented there have nothing to hide about their arrogance considering Brazil as their private property . They love Machiavel and reach joy keeping patrimonial State. Why they don’t have complexes about showing themselves both as power usurpers and outstanding corrupts? The next step will be to rewrite history, distributing bribes to judges. Law for them is just the cards they have to play. There’s no deal to make. We’ll keep writing, protesting, investigating, fighting for liberty, discussing in national and international spaces, keeping one eye on the law’s they’ll try to make and the other on organization. All illusions on politicians fell down, and that’s rather good signal. Power to the people!!! Time is open to public politics made by the people.
Kkkkkkkk…você e hilário… Recebe quanto do PT pra escrever isso…rsrs
Dear giovana, where on earth you live? You don’t speak english yet? Oh my dear friend, why you didn’t apply for ciencias sem fronteira from PT? Sorry you just miss it! hahaha, sorry!
A torneira secando e a linha auxiliar chorando!!
Help.
right wingers are the suckerfish for greedy monsters
And the planet needs to see what it is about these types that threatens all life forms on the planet. THEY ARE BLINDED BY A MENTAL DISORDER.
RIght wingers appear as sociopathic because of their mental disorder. That mental disorder is an unrecognized phobia, the fear of being common which is exacerbated by a competitive environment and wealth that rewards them.
Please come up with a name for this disorder – it must be named to be known.
Thank you very much.
“Poorphobia disease”, it’s kind of a mental illness that makes the patient have phobia of poor people and fear of having to share some kind of things that makes them “special”, like: they are afraid of meet poor at airplane, university, just few examples, but it gets worse as time goes, they can’t sleep or when they sleep they have nightmare, such as a poor person is just beaside them in the same road, it is serious, but now who suffer from this, is getting better, you know, doesn’t need medication anymore.
The irony of you – a shameless and unapologetic advocacy journalist, without a whiff of neutrality – belly aching about privileged elites using the news media to manipulate and serve a political agenda…. Now that’s rich. Kettle black hypocrite much?
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
There is a good reason Jezus proclaimed that.
That’s a brain dead comparison. The problem is not the existence of bias per se. It’s whether the journalist works in the interests of the powerful or the less fortunate. The basic question you need to ask is the following: Is the journalist/politician working to advance his personal interests and career, or does he actually have principles and convictions in favor of the public interest?
i am fairly convinced that these contrary sociopathic leaning types do not fit on a good planet and we the people who can live with differences that dont really matter, need to separate.
i am proposing that oil and water won’t mix. The asocial right wingers are “willing” to expend others even to the point of figting amongs themselves like pecking order chickens.
i say, DIVIDE THE PLANET.
Actually Glenn is being right on point, and actually even gracious in my opinion, in that the truth is, those people who subscribe their lives to money systems, hierarchies, and hired mercenaries to make sure that human capital and natural resources is held to be funneled into the hands of those who run negative polarity in their consciousness, have no intellectual, emotional or spiritual compass in life, because the only thing they use their conscious energy for, is serving self in an artificial world of materiality, from which they could care es what they do to the earth and all life on it.
Well there are higher laws in this universe if you have ever take the time to know how sacred geometry and unity of consciousness works, to leave this 3D cosmic density of low life materialists, who will never be able to unlock the keys that require a deep connection with the higher consciousness state of spirit and unity of consciousness and cosmic density to move into the multi-verse of 4D, 5D and beyond, the box of 3D that these corrupted parasitic bottom feeders us, that billions of people from all over the world, are abut ready to purge them all from this planet. Have you not been able to figure that out yet, or is your head in the sand of materiality, and lack of knowing through universal unity of higher self.
Um, Greenwald does not PRETEND to be neutral. Brazilian media does. There is nothing at all wrong with advocacy journalism and political “agendas.” But they should be openly acknowledged, as should the grave threat to democracy when all the major media is owned by a small group of oligarchs.
Glenn has nothing to be ashamed of, unlike the elites and their corrupt elitist Brazilian media that you appear so keen to support. Such a shame that the selfish and greedy elites false justification for the coup has been exposed. Unlike the Brazilian media Glenn has just presented the facts, whereas the Brazilian media has manipulated the public into justifying the coup and impeachment as necessary to clear up corruption. How can installing a new leader, who is implicated in more corruption than the person he is replacing be portrayed or justified as an anti corruption initiative ? If the elite want a new President that will protect and further their own racketeering and corruption then they should follow the democratic political process, and allow the people of Brazil to vote, and to decide.
You, sir, are amazing! keep up the good work! the world owes you a lot already.
President Trump will sort this out. The developer of the new ultra-lavish (infinite swimming pools, and everything.) Trump Hotel in Rio De Janeiro is Paulo Figueiredo Filho, “grandson of João Figueiredo, the last autocrat of a 21-year military dictatorship that ended in economic disarray in 1985.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html?_r=0
Good for Donald! That article was latter 2015. It is living proof that Dilma was not involved in corruption because large projects are always the target of corruptors. Surely if corruption was that rampid, her name would have come up.
WALLSTREET FEARS DONALD and BERNIE.
I can understand why wallstreet fears Bernie. I actually don’t get why wallstreet fears Donald, but they do.
It’s pretty simple. They don’t like “Party Crashers” and The Donald is crashing their party….big time.
Ending trade steals,enforcing protectionism,closed borders,ending stupid MIC enrichment schemes,at least international in scope,by reducing America abroad,are all stockholder nightmares.
Plus his neutral stance re Israel Palestine? upset them mightily.They want no part of America First,are you kidding?
The banksters are predominantly Zionist.
Will the world protest,and cancel the Olympics over this usurpation?
Nah,at least the world that counts (da money).
no.
thanks for cluing me in.
hahaha, is he going to be your president? Where on earth lives this man? And he was interviwed by “veja”, well, that’s a good start isn’t it ?hahaha, maybe if you ask him if he knows who is behind the coup, he problably, say: coup, what? And them you could inform him: USA!
The PT party is a COMUNISM party, allied with Venezuela and Cuba, we do not want the communist dictatorship. we want our values back, we want our family tradition back. We don´t want gamscist, frankfurt school or Marxism!!!! We do not want this ideology. Enough !!!?
so much ignorance it hurts! wow!
1. learn to make your case please, i need to learn from you.
2. communism does not exist in brazil, only in asia. Communism is a form of PUBLIC OWNER OF LARGE INDUSTIRIES. Communism is good for public ownership of public services like sidewalks hello, parks, oil, utilities, land for produce and reserves…
3.
Communism is a form of ownership, not operations which can be bid and incentivised.
Capitalism is an incentive system.
Socialism is service for enabling people’s rights by using resources to share.
ACTUALLY, all 3 together would be the best system for the planet.
PREDATORY THIEVING MONOPOLISTIC RIGHT WING SOCIOPATHS..
– dont like communal public ownership of that which they want to steal
– dont like socialised life support distribution services because it removes their power to extort return on productivity
If you do not agree with this, please get off my planet.
and Thank you for that challenge. I need to get that stuff off my chest more often than sex, eating and sleeping.
Why is us who don’t agree with you that must leave the planet? If our existence bothers you, feel free to go..
Our country was marching towards communism, even though we stopped this nightmare, some damage was inflicted upon us: in economy, 60% of the credit is state-run and subsidized, given to friendly corporations only (a backwards hobbin hood deal); closed trade with other nations, making us hostages of the national industrial baronage; reckless spending in unnecessary high profile govt jobs and mismanaged welfare, leading to a world of corruption and killing the economic libido of the assisted, to state a few. But the most important damage was made to our morale. With the cultural Marxism, a lot of people gave up on their own core values and became worshipers of the state. To revert this will take a long process, but we will eventually.
And you got your concepts wrong. This 100 pages quick fix will do for better understanding: “Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow”. An 101 economy 50 year book.
Of Course, You missed history classes, calling PT Comunism, you dont really know what means to be comunism… badly, PT had some social programes… that same one that many capitalists countries have, e.c, Obama Care, Food Stamp in many US states…. Are US COMUNIST either beucause of this? PT kept the same capitalist program. You seem to me a very ignorant one, polutically.
Glenn Greenwald… sigh… your continuing defense of the indefensible is baffling. This is about corruption it’s not an elitist coup. What a ridiculous tin hat conspiracy theory. It’s trickle down justice and it’s working. Just look at how Cunha has been removed from power! I must now go back and reconsider all of your writings. It takes years to build a reputation and only moments to destroy it. Congratulations Brazil! You are now on the path to rule of law.
….sigh more…..
this is about an elitist coup, not corruption
Just look at how Cunha has been removed from power?
Your ignorance about the mechanisms of corruption is showing…
Perfect example, CASINO. It is a fact that lead corruptors do not need top positions. The power is not the in the position, it is the route and the underlaying hierarchy. It is also possible to have competing corruption which is comical.
It is about corruption, you are correct, it’s about the elite’s defence of their own corruption, and about them “installing a President who is far more implicated in corruption than the person he is replacing” it is a coup, and an attack on democracy, and it is completely false to claim that this coup puts “Brazil on the path to rule of law”
Shhh! Your enthusiasm for GG is cute and all, but you don’t know enough to challenge people’s view with such categorical statements.
Why don’t you go shhhhh. You think you know more than me, despite your inability to grasp that my comments are not categorical. They are valid and informed concerns,at a coup which has overthrown a democratically elected president under false pretenses. My comments are not challenging the peoples view, as you incorrectly state, since the view of the majority of the familiar people was to vote for, and to elect Rouseff. I am challenging the actions of a small group of elite Brazilians and their media, who have destroyed democracy, and installed a person who as Glenn correctly stated “is far more implicated in corruption than the person he is replacing”
For sure the Koch Brothers have a lot to do with this! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/24/brazil-activists-march-free-markets-margaret-thatcher-rand-paul
Sometimes your head just wants to explode. Today both the Dilma impeachment by the most corrupt and on another planet called England the PM is holding an anti corruption/tax heaven conference (which of course is all theater and PR).
This spells the end of BRICS the US with both India and Brazil on their side will dominate as usual. Amazing how capable they are of doing this sort of thing without any fingerprints.
Snowden, LuxLeaks, Panama Papers = some political theater, some increase in taxes on the rich and their corporations, maybe they give back 1% of their gains over the last forty years and calm the hoi polli down, business as usual. Mostly they just shrug it off.
solution-
Frequently mention..
– the populations are being robbed by the new TOC.
– cash flow in the economy is drained by the accumulation of money into offshore accounts.
– politicians are conspiring to legalise corruption by allowing money in politics
– the use of credit in a currency system in place of cash betrays public power and ownership
– the rothschild print-to-loan-to-own (as they repossess public resources) currency system is a complete sham and a crime against humanity
– thieves pretty much run the planet at this time
– the TPP is an attempt for corporate elite to hijack, own and run the economy of the planet
– the NSA and other spy operations are in place to kill free speech and identify and root out people organising to take back the planet from the 1% predatory thieves
– and the like
As for the media… I’m interested in your opinion about the blogs and magazines funded by the government, used strictly as propaganda. Should they be trusted?
As a Brazilian,im enraged by this article. Name a single “coup”,were both sides were listened,voted by all 3 powers of republic, with major participation of the people in both sides of the dialogue. Its ridiculous. There is no coup:we are celebrating the ultimatee expression of democracy,firing a governor that stole the future of my people with the worst financial decisions of my country. We are not creating stability, we are making history. We are not putting a neoliberal corrupt in power, we are rejecting a government created through crime,corruption and division of my own prople.
If you support the Dilma Rousseff, you either have not the right information,or fallen too deep in government propaganda.We are an example to be followed: the whole world would be better if US did the same with Bush.
The Paraguayan coup of 2012 is similar in a lot of ways. You have a rigid understanding of what a coup is, which is irrelevant either way because semantics are not the issue.
Glenn,
Like you I am intimately familiar with Brazil having lived there for a number of years. The problem is that corruption is a core value for Brasileros. Rich or poor there is almost no one, at least, not that I know of, that hasn’t taken advantage of the system in some way, shape or form. Tax evasion in Brasil is a national pastime. Payoffs to get what one wants occur at all levels of society. Rio is utterly awash in corruption. Try opening a store in Leblon there are so many wheels to grease it makes one’s head spin. Even expats who would not consider such behavior in their own countries can’t help but assimilate such cultural values. It’s sickening but a reality. Brasil’s congress is a reflection of its populace so it should come as no surprise that its almost entirely corrupt. So are Brasil’s citizens. Until there is a sea change in attitude Brasil’s democracy will not function.
Corruption in Brazil is not an inner part of Brazilians. You say as if it were some kind of Brazilian human nature. Brazilian, just like other Latin-American elites, has been since the Empire times nourished while representing external interests in the colonies. That was always how they could keep wealthy: taking from the poorest and giving to Europeans and after also to North-American capitals, then getting some bribes in the middle. Politicians are precisely people coming primarily from such elite groups, and not only in Northeast. Furthermore, it seems that Brazilian people is not in favor of Temers, Cunhas, Neves, Calheiros, Bolsonaros, as the general claim is that these corrupts leave. So, you are living in Brazil for many years and now seem to justify your own assimilation to such values. They are finally not so different than the ones reigning in your homeland. Just the perspective changes, but the phenomenon is the same.
Dear Joe, I could be speechless for what you have said, but I can’t, you know one of the reasons Dilma was defected ? Just because she’s not at all like them, you see, Almost all of them are con man, robber, one of the biggest con man there is Aécio Neves he’s envolved in crime, drugs dealing , corruptions, and guest what? This month is going to be judged by his best friend Gilmar Mendes one of the minister of justice of highest brazilian court, but you can’t forget that all this coup against our democracy has the big hand of USA, just like 1964, democracy for USA is when you agree with their sistem, they should mind with their own business, education, healty insurance, something not well known for all americans …It so said, by the way, me myself and “few” brazilian against the tide are not corrupt, it would be much easier to be like all of them, but I keep” fighting”
even if you were 100% correct, you are conflating corruption with democracy. Corruption has NOTHING to do with Democracy. You can have political corruption in any system.
The act of using a political resource to abort a democracy is not an act of corruption, it is an act of piracy against democracy.
For sure, dear friend ! And there’s more about Michel Temer, the vice president who is replacing Dilma Rousseff : last week he was declared by the Electoral Court ineligible for 8 years! It is absurd to hold cause he is a plug-dirty by Brazilian law !!
Its too easy to blame everything on ‘the status quo’, ‘the plutocrats’, the ‘elites’, rather than dive into the depths of what really happened here. Just like Bernie, the intent is admirable, but UNREALISTIC. The PT’s short term fixes were just that: SHORT TERM, a mass worker subsidization program on the premise that they would produce revenue. Higher education, tax cuts, low income support, government jobs. Yes, it DOES sound familiar to a certain presidential candidate here. So what happened? The same tax revenue Bernie is banking on suddenly dried up. A backwards isolationist trade policy, skyrocketing inflation, unemployment… the ones paying the bulk of the taxes just said ‘no more’. Only a fool would have an ‘either or’ attitude. Join the world or the world is going to pass you by. There’s been many a write-up on Brazil’s impending doom. The foreign policy website had one way back in 2014, pretty much predicting this outcome if Dilma didn’t wake up and embrace the realities of a global economy. The hammer and sickle shit is over, Glenn. Its time to open your eyes and stop blaming everyone else.
I mainly seemed that you are an avid reader of the major media . You should not know the real Brazil , there is hunger , violence and poverty. Hammer and sickle are symbols that exist only in the minds of fools , who see communism at all.
Yes, there are violence, hunger and poverty. The Work’s Party got an incredible decade, with the commoditie’s boom and had 13 years in power to make huge changes in the political, taxes, healthcare and education system.
And what they did? Nothing at all. The income should be used in investment, but it was not. They all went to social policies. And they used a huge propaganda machine to “show” people that they took milion from poverty, but the reality is that they only give them almsgiving. Now that the money is over, they are all coming back again to the poverty. The Work’s Party threw away the opportunity to leave country from totally 3rd nation in a better path.
The reality is that the neoliberal policy from FHC government took away the country from inflation and allowed it to grow at the boom.
You can check all numbers in the official chanels. Be my guest.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9AUgPgu2qks/TL3iyQ0mNUI/AAAAAAAAAA0/yPhBNnJ7cxo/s1600/mapa_desempenho_05.png
Regards
Well, regardless of your interpretation of the events in Brazil, they pretty much did what Bernie wants to do to us all here. The ‘little people’ will never be able to produce enough revenue to fund massive government programs. That means you need work with those ‘evil corporate elites’ because of the mass amounts of cash they bring in. It also means you need to accept the fact that global trade isn’t going away. Dilma thought differently, like Bernie, and the country sank. If this doesn’t shake Bernie supporters out of their dreamlike trance, nothing will.
That means you need work with those ‘evil corporate elites’
wrong again
You say “evil corporate elites” facetiously as if you believe them to be righteous achievers as if their efforts count more simply because they “occupy” the positions they have been “rewarded”.
Perhaps your game of “musical chairs” is about to crash?
Completely agree, and I am insuspect because I voted for Lula and Dilma. What I am not is a naïve leftist. Yes, Brazil has severe inequality problems. Yes, Brazil is not living up to its potential. But to call this impeachment process a coup is ludicrous. The popularitu of Dilma was nearing single digits. If you will, it was a coup perpetrated by 90% of the population. Sorry if some blindsided non-residents do not like it.
The tax revenue did not “suddenly dry up.”
You’re talking about corruption as if it is an inevitable component of liberal social policies.
Each and every stage leading up to the current crisis can be measured and evaluated.
The fight against poverty was not the cause of it.
Hammers and sickles are useful tools.
Its always ‘corruption’ when the dream is tarnished. This is just a simple case of overextending your revenue without a contingency plan.
what! another shill for mainstream fools?
“You lie” doesnt even begin to explain the nonsense trickle down drivel you are pissing out.
LoL! Brazil ran supply side economics for a decade while shunning the expanse of global trade. I have no problem with socialistic programs as long as you can fund them, and funding them takes a shitload more revenue.
LMAO!
shunning the expanse of global trade. Good. Self sufficiency needs to be established as a backstop to prevent being leveraged.
I have no problem with socialistic programs as long as you can fund them,
If you cannot fund social programs, you are not a legitimate concern as a country or society. If you know of something better than life support guarantees, name it but realise that God might disagree with you.
About that shitload of revenue….. Life and Living is Expensive… FOR EVERYONE! So please, quit with the genocidal leaning racist arguments.
Check out them Chicoms,Pearl River delta in the Graun(if its still there),and see the terrible results of communism.(one would actually call it capcom)
Simply amazing.
Like Thaksin is to Thailand Temer is to Brazil.
Temer’s CFR speech anyone?
I start with the premise that people and populations naturally organize around community, the commons, and public spaces. History bears this out. More to the point, left-leaning tendencies are organic and natural. Sans manipulation or subversive operations by profit-driven motives, societies will organize around the working classes and poor because this is the experience of most people, the 99%. Generally, there is peace and contentment found here.
What I observe in our world is that indeed the 1% and their apparatus (lobbyist, politicians, media, operatives, military, lawyers, accountants) push into organic, left-leaning societies and destroy these naturally formed communities to advance their economic interests.
In short, while left-leaning (community, commons, working classes and poor) communities are natural and organic, they are not profit maximizing. They are not extractive because this is not where the people in these societies place their values. The value is placed on connection and community, humanity.
In my opinion, the great conflict in this world is the neoliberal machine (99%) exerting powerful interests over natural, organic left-leaning societies in order to extract wealth. This happens worldwide and is driven, primarily, by the value-mindset in the USA (Wall Street).
There are two premises in our world that are fallacious and need to be cast into hell fire. The 1% neoliberal machine uses these arguments. First, trickle down economics is a fallacy. Our current global situation bears this out (99%- 1%). Secondly, the tragedy of the commons is also a fallacy, as proven by Elinor Ostrom, winner of the Noble Prize in Economics; and many other researchers.
It is not a crime to honor and value connection to humanity, to community. It is not a crime to be poor or working class and to want to live a peaceful existence on the land. It is not a crime, in fact it is very natural, to organize around social democratic principles.
In closing this rant, while the machine does have power, they do not have numbers. To him who has ears to hear, hear. Faith without works is dead.
i agree with your take on the state of the people on planet earth but i want to offer a different terminology for neoliberal which terms seem to get tangled and conflated as the tug of war drags on. Taking your perspective of faith and hell fire, would not calling out these obvious typecasts in a newly conceived term be more relevant to that eathly inherent manner?
i will check out Elinot Ostrom.
Always good to read your posts.
Again you beautifully bring us to community.
The Native American community only killed what they needed and they prayed over the animals transitioning spirit. Cruelly slaughtered and mostly gone are the 60,000,000 buffalo that graced America and enriched its soil.
I recall reading somewhere a Native American’s response to a woman that said it was shameful what happened to the Indians, but what were the Indians really doing with the land anyway?
He explained how ironic it was for her to ask that question in a town that had a river so polluted by industry that it could actually ignite if subject to ashes from cigarette smoking.
You defended Dilma Rouseff but you forgot to mention that she gave more money to the rich than for the poor that she claims to help! She took money from the public banks which is against the law in Brasil. I think that you clearly don’t see both sides Glen. You only defending your own opinion! Seems like you don’t know half of what is going on. Besides that Dilma is not the first Brazilian president to be impeached she will be the second one. So seems like you don’t know our history neither. Impeachment is in our constitution and the law is being followed.
“You defended Dilma Rouseff . . .”
No. He defended the notion of democratic process.
E Vc professora de Historia a quem defende ??
Glenn,
The “coup” is occurring in large part because the organization of Brazil’s government permits such a fiasco. Why did PT not organize to get votes to make the organization less subject to the current manipulations. After all they had many years to think about this sort of situation materializing. Anticipation seems to have been completely lacking.
Close your eyes, imagine Hillary in Dilmas shoes, this will be the U.S.
Laughable, imagine Bernie in Dilma’s shoes and Hillary in Temer’s shoes. That would be the proper analogy. Except that the oligarchs will keep Bernie out and have more risk with Trump upsetting their plans.
Thanks, Green for talking about the destruction of Democracy in Brazil by a group very well supported by national media and big financial sectors. Today it is a very sad day for 54millions who vote for Dilma Rousseff tho years ago. I don’t know if we, Brazilians, will see the light in end of the tunnel.
Destruction of democracy, really?
The impeachment process was written by 3 CITIZENS (one of which was a Worker’s party founder). This process was then given to OUR CONGRESS, first to the lower chamber where 513 deputies – choosen by the same Brazilian voters that elected Dilma – accepted it. Then it was sent to the higher chamber where 81 senators – idem – accepted it. All this process was under supervision of our Supreme Court, where 8 out 11 Justices where indicated by the Workers party on these last 13 years. And the trial will happen in the Senate under the presidency of our Supreme Court President, which was indicated by the Workers party as well. Where are the crimes against democracy, if there’s one after all??
Besides, the 54 million voters card is really old news, and don’t depict the reality now. Her popularity is lower than our inflation rate.
And more important, you should now that winning the presidency does NOT give you a free pass to use our hard earned taxpayers money at her will, specially if it is for corruption, bribes, and theft for self interest.
Good riddance, lefties.
Americans, this is the brazilians 2 cents on your campaign.
there is only 1 thing i appreciate about pimped out hoe’n right wing sociopathic thieves….
their marvelously richly decorated graves.
That’s you that is asserting the right wing are rich, not me. Anyways, you can use our case at your own discretion. You can now foresee what can lead when a socialist mentality rises among the population.
We learned the hard way that government is anything but a necessary evil (something one of your founding fathers already knew). Its sole purpose is to prevent hell breaking loose, and not promoting heaven, which all the messianic progressive candidates promises.
Good luck.
It is truly disgusting and sickening that this coup is being justified by the elite’s media as some sort of anti corruption drive. If this was the case then they would not be installing a President who as Glenn has rightly said, “is more implicated in corruption than the person thy’re removing” This destruction and total lack of respect for democracy is completely repulsive, and wholly unacceptable. Temer should be impeached, and the people of Brazil should not be deprived of the opportunity to vote for a new leadership through the usual democratic process.
Glenn is not right abou that. Temer is not more implicated in corruption, that is pure fabrication that Glenn is repeating in poor form.
Glenn, do Brazilians not have access to alternative media like Telesur? Is there a landscape of small scale media fighting this from inside the country? How did the pro-democracy message spread during the old dictatorship?
GODDAMN, how can you all have a so distorted and misleading view of whats is happening in here??? People are on the streets not only the elite, how can a protest of 2 million people on Avenida Paulista be a farse?? Inflation at 10%/year, unemployment at its top in ten years, the average brazillian surviving with a ridiculous salary while the government faces the greatest corruption case in the world (PETROBRAS) and do a series of fiscal maneuvers to pretend that it’s all ok just to guarantee the win on the elections. Dilma Roussef’s popularity dropped to 16% in the course of its mandate, showing that most brazillian do not agree with the way she’s leading our country. It is ok to say that all others waiting in line are not perfect, but no one is accepting the current situation. Something got to change, this is democracy, this is what people want, is not only a media outlet desire, or rich elite desire.
If corrupts find a way to power we got to remove them from there, not wait to see the economy sink to the very bottom.
I AM NO ELITE, just a regular citizen who works hard everyday.
But she was defeated for “pedaladas fiscais”, at least 27 governor have done the same “crime” and former presidents FHC and Lula did as well, then you talk about her low popularity, as there’s anything to accuse her you changed the speech, but you must be happy, your new president an honest man envolved in money laundering, slavery like pratices in his farm, just to mention some of his good adjetives, by the way Petrobras affair started in sarney era, just to let you know, anyway good luck for you with your “good man”
By the way, you have not seen the data, how much money was maneuvered in his “pedaladas”, ridiculous to compare to any other, anyway, the same shit that defenders of the indefensible try to argue.
PETROBRAS, I must repeat, the greatest scandal that shocked the world and ruined economy for good, by PT’s hands the party that pretends to rule for the poor, but the truth everybody knows now. It is hard to deny now, with the Supreme Court being at service of democracy.
The Headline
Democracy can not suffer a grievous blow for it does not exist.
Democracy is a chimera, a flight of fancy.
You have politicians who make the decisions not the people.
Don’t cry for Brazil, it is the same anywhere democracy lives.
I was born and raised in Germany. We have a social democracy and it works pretty well there!
Yea, sure..it works wonderful in Germany…where the big decisions are not even taken in Berlin but in Washington…where Angela (Comrade Erika during the DDR time) Merkel is a CIA asset (and was a KGB asset during the DDR)…where the secret service, the BND along with their masters from the CIA, provoke a coup détat in Ukraine in order to have another Cia puppet in Europe…where the police on Köln hides the real facts of what happened during New Years eve with the refugees because the goverment gave them the order to hide what REALLY happened…where the goverment put more missiles and even more foreign soldiers following US orders (the Russians are coming!!!, they are going to take Frankfurt next week!!!!)…where the NSA spies Mutti and it does not matter… it´s OK…where the banksters (as in the US) are walking free after the tragedy of 2008…and I can go on and on for hours…nice democracy…Bitte…
…and where “free speech” is jailed.
This is the usual template for Fascists who want to remove a leader or government that won’t give them what they want. The far right elites and their powerful global corporations,who have corporatised and infected most western governments, want one World order. They will continue to use intelligence agencies, military forces, corrupt mass media, and trade pacs to divide and overthrow. Democracy is being destroyed by these psychopaths who will let nothing get in the way of their imperialist agendas. They buy politicians and governments, and those they cannot buy they overthrow or assassinate. They persecute any activists, whistleblowers or journalists that don’t toe their line, and who dare to expose their crimes and racketeering. this is the age of mafia, state terrorist governments, and the situation in Brazil is yet another example of their lack of respect for democracy. The people of Brazil need to get out on the street and stop this in it’s tracks right now.
Yes, it would seem that the multinational neoliberal agenda is intent on corporatizing every level of society. However, it is not only neoliberals who want to institute a global system of commerce and government. The Fabians have been working tirelessly to influence global outcomes that, if realized, would subject all persons to a collectivized two-tier class system of educated elites and worker class drones (akin to those in the dystopic visions of Huxley and Orwell). As we speak, Sadiq Kahn’s victory is being heralded as a great victory by the progressive left in much the way Obama’s presidential success was first received. Because Sadiq Kahn is simply of Pakistani heritage and an open advocate of gay marriage, the progressive left has gone ga-ga over his Mayoral victory in London. But like Obama, this individual is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has already demonstrated that he is committed to advancing the aims of Britain’s financial elites as can be evinced from his support of Cameron’s efforts to undermine populist support for Brexit to the advantage of the Britain’s financial elites. The choice between conservative and labor candidates in Britain is little different than the choice between republican and democratic candidates in America. Democracy is hailed as a great liberating force by the elites as long as the range of choice is controlled by the elites. After years of identifying with the Fabians, Orwell wrote Animal farm which was actually written with Britain in mind, not the Soviet Union.
This is an incredibly stupid argument — it seems to suggest that democracy is legitimate when you agree with its outcomes and is illegitimate when you don’t.
This is a democratic outcome, make no mistake about it. This is not some corporate takeover — the Brazilian Senate voted overwhelmingly to kick Rousseff out of office until this trial is over. A *democratically elected* Brazilian Senate, by the people of the various states in Brazil. You don’t get to say that the outcome is undemocratic when your beloved PT that takes a hit and that it’s totally democratic when they do well…
horescrap.
You conflate corruption and democracy.
Tener and Cunyo are sellouts for elitist pirates who prefer predatory dictatorships and who are looking to subvert the DEMOCRATIC METHODS.
persons who argue as you do are usually pimped out slime for right wing sociopathic thieves – but i really cant say that you arent speaking from your heart
Paraguay, Honduras, Brazil. all – political coups – The Empire strikes back.
What people tend to overlook is that it is usually the democratic wish of people to be ruled by a benevolent monarchy or dictator in some form or the other. Examples abound – UK, Canada, Australia, Saudi Arabia, Germany, Spain, Bahrein, and now we want Trump to rule like a dictator. So this development in Brazil is in line with the democratic aspirations of the people.
But the mass of people do not think critically, and therefore are subject to manipulation. I don’t think it’s the wish of the people of they “really knew,” but more the case that what is presented (media, etc) is “bought” as truth.
The great irony in all this is that Dilma could’ve avoided impeachment if she had protected Cunha, Temer and key members of her coalition from investigation & corruption. She would still be president and complete her term if she had stepped in and interfered with the investigations.
And rest assured, when she’s gone from office, Temer and his cohort will most certainly step in and interfere on the investigations and prosecutions.
And Dilma won the reelection using money of public banks for 14 months. That is totaly illegal. She was not deposed in january of 2015 only because PMDB covered up the case. They worked up till the last usefull day of 2014 some way to expand the government’s budget of that year.
Brazil Senate vote ousts Workers Party President Dilma Rousseff wsws.org
By Bill Van Auken
12 May 2016
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/12/braz-m12.html
The party PMDB is the vice president’s party since 2002, and now it is the bad one? Remember, those are not the oposition making the empeachmant against Dilma and PT, but are their fourteen years ally. We are in front of the biggest cases of corruptions in our history, and now is all PMDB’s guilt? Sure that Lula and Dilma doesn’t know nothing about it! They did not know nothing! Two pure and innocent souls being crucified…Poor angels… Come on! Are you talking about democracy? The Dilma’s popularity is the worst since 1984. Even Collor and Sarney did not have so bad popularity. If the elections were today, Dilma were not win 10 percent of the votes.
This is an absurd, flagrant misrepresentation of the reality.
Shameful.
The lies have been categorically disproven by several outlets, more recently, in portuguese:
http://spotniks.com/8-mentiras-que-voce-provavelmente-ja-ouviu-sobre-o-impeachment/
We haven’t forgotten that you, Glenn, have gone from a champion of free information on the upper political class to someone that immediately denounced the revealing tapes involving ex-president Lula and president Dilma.
You betray your own history.
Your text is an analysis really deep about all the moment we’ve been through right now in Brasil. But, in this scenario, particularly, I want to remember the events of June 2013. All we are living now have started there. Including the first impeachment talkings that year. Although all economical and political brasilian elite are against PT since 2002 as you mentioned, these movements that now are happening are more recents: When PT gave away an important comission in the lower house, some social movements felt betrayed by PT. In march of 2013, an evangelical pastor took the place of PT in its most important flag. These movements grew in 2014 and created a polarized country. All movements pro-impeachment started in 2013. And then gained this importance now. PT has lost most of its supporters that year. They are now revenging. I was at these movements, I’ve seen this when they were born. Here, in Brasília, we know when things go wrong. For Dilma and PT, it has begun in 2013.
Have you asked yourself where the money for those movements is coming? Have you tried to ask them from where that money comes? You can ask them, but you’ll never get a response from them. I wish that someone was actively trying to research the money trail for these movements.
I am sorry but your article is a disfavor to 87% of Brazilians unhappy with the caos the PT caused to the country in 13 years in power. We need to start cleaning house now. Temer is not the solution, however the people send their message, corruption no more! And the proof that we are a strong democratic national is exactly the fact that we will not be subject to a bolivarism politics no more. For you to understand what is going on you need to live more than 11 years in Brazil. I am tired of seeing irresponsible journalism like yours in which instead of citing facts you state your opinion based probably on what your friends believe. If 87% of the Brazilian population is in favor of a change, how can you say this change is class biased??? 87% of Brazilians are not middle or upper class! Perhaps on your next article you should mentioned all the investigations going on regarding Petrobras, and operacao Lava-jato where it is obvious that Lula and Dilma are deeply involved. Please also include the fraudulent elections of 2014 and where Dilma got money for her campaign! We need a complete redo of politics and politicians and we are starting with the ones who are pillaging the country in the name of “the people”. The same ones who devided the country in “them” and “us” while the sip expensive wine among the rich and famous!
Anne, did you read the article? it clearly states that PT has problems with corruption. The question raised here is if 87% of the people wish to see the back of Dilma what caused them to change there mind in this year and a half? (since the last election) where are they getting their information from? Globo claims that unemployment is at a record high (11%) but this number was equal or worse many times in the last 10 years but people in brazil don’t even read the news in-depth to realize this. The people I talk to day by day in Brazil didn’t know the name of any deputy who wasn’t a fomer president or clown until last month. The question is misinformation not how many years someone has spent in the country. A well informed 8 year old boy could tell you this…and just did
If you go back and reread the article, you’ll see that Greenwald did not say that he was against change.
The change that is being implemented is class biased, regardless of who supports it.
The potential new government’s avowed first aim is to institute austerity.
Who is going to be adversely affected most by it, but the majority of the population who you say favors change.
Nothing in your post is counter to what Greenwald himself has said. But what he also said was that this situation seems likely to be one of from frying pan into the fire.
I’m sorry about Brazil, I really hope this isn’t the beginning of the end for the current democracy. Time will tell, I guess.
On a side note, I was amused to read your Twitter feed today and see that white evangelicals are apparently the new oppressed minority du jour for the far left. I like to keep current on these things – I’ll keep the word “oikophobia” (just learned it today from that thread) in mind to say with a sneer for anyone who totally doesn’t *get voting for Trump because they are So Not In Touch Like The Cool Kids. It’s good to keep up on trends. Has anyone informed impoverished white evangelicals that their status among the Left has been updated from Racist Sexist Douchebags to People That Only The Left ‘Gets’? I feel you should send out a group email or something so you’re all on the same page.
You’re confusing left with liberal.
As Matt says, most liberals don’t realize they’re on conservative spectra. There are historical/psychological reasons for this. But regardless of the source of this phenomena, that categorical cartoon in your head, where you think you’ve identified cognitive dissonance, is actually a form of projection.
I used to say, conservatives use dog whistles, liberals use cryptology. In other words, liberals are more deeply full of shit. More sublimated. But, if I can bring this back on topic a bit, I think this particular “neo”liberal moment, this particular half decade, from Greece to Brazil to, hell, Suffolk County, has brought the fundamental contradiction to the fore. The free market must force you to be free.
There is room for a liberal philosophy, to be distinguished from communism and radical capitalism alike. It all starts with the idea that people have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness – which is to say, that people should not fear death or great deprivation whatever happens in the economic game, but they also should have an opportunity to make things of their own and enjoy the use of them, even though they are “means of production”. Property is to be seen as a means of privacy and autonomy rather than worshipped as a god to which little children are sacrificed. The fact that no one actually made the oil and the coal and the land needs to be recognized in philosophy. The origin and nature of property is best understood by considering cases such as Fred Phelps trying to protest near a funeral. Groups of people who intend a public protest (and a funeral is such a protest, directed at the Creator regarding the oldest of grievances) claim rights to occupy certain land in private self-determination (such as funerals who don’t want Phelps in the sacred sphere they are trying to create, or marijuana activists who don’t want a contingent of police supporters mingling in their parade with derogatory signs). But these rights to the fundamentally unowned land must be apportioned fairly, and if one group can better exploit natural resources (whether in terms of area or extraction) than another, then it can do so only at the cost of paying the other for the privilege. Just so, it is possible to justify taxation, but also protection of the environment, against the absolutist claims of the capitalist fundamentalists, while at the same time avoiding having the Commissar coming into your house and telling you that your bed is his bed.
“As Matt says, most liberals don’t realize they’re on conservative spectra. There are historical/psychological reasons for this. But regardless of the source of this phenomena, that categorical cartoon in your head, where you think you’ve identified cognitive dissonance, is actually a form of projection.”
Uh huh. Psychobabble to tell me I’m imagining things. Well *that sure dispels the image of condensing leftist stenotypes in my mind.
Condescending. Although perhaps the left is condensing too.
How much is PT paying you? PT is a cancer!! Only fanatics can’t see this. Get Dilma out of presidency ASAP.
I wish your country was ruled by PT and Peronism and Chavismo at the same time.
Focus on the small part of a problem and discuss the consequences, starting a point based only in this lack of view cause more damage to the crises. Votes dont allow anyone to act in corruption. The meanlines are strongest then formal bases of the impeachment process. Petrobras, just an example of a vast list, is the biggest case of corruption in the world history. PT was not alone in this shame. The politicians in next brazilian government was togheter. Brazil is giving a step forward, but the next step, to just hug the last allies of pt (pmdb), will be just a step, not all the long journey needed to throw away the traditional trash that we are voting again and again. We hope to have less politicians, and a majority of good ones.
People are claiming honesty. This is not about votes and elections. Is about cleaning bad politicians. And dont stop doing this, no matter the side.
Sorry my very bad english.
Just think that readers away from the problem need to read the midside of the whole story.
NPR FAILS AMERICA
Tonite, NPR had a news item about the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff. The NPR focus was scant and meaningless. NPR stated that the she would be held back for 6 mos and possibly relieved entirely because of issues regarding a budget bill.
Then NPR played Ana Amelia. Then a very brief remark by Paulo Paim.
Having only mentioned about corruption investigations, NPR ended with a mention that if the suspension was passed, the “vice president” (no name) would become the (acting) president.
NPR NEGLECTED TO MENTION THE MEANINGFUL ISSUES IN PLAY.
Did i mention that NPR features sponsorship advertising from Goldman Sachs?
YEAH. THEY DO.
I just watched BBC Headline news on PBS officiate OPB on this matter. It was in two parts about minute a piece with first half being an on location british journalist/correspondent for about 1 minute and other half an interview of independent journalist from Brazil (?) about another 1- 2 minutes trying to really explain all facets/sides in 1 minute or so. First section was very non explanatory of any details of the whole story. Was this first video/half of the story deliberately avoiding any mention corruption from the impeachers? Is this the reason they added the interview statements from the Brazilian journalist to avoid harsh criticism by only airing first white british male section only?
The second part was an interview of sorts with younger Brazilian (?) woman reporter who mentioned many connections to corruption and the impeaching party as well as vice president but it was hard to grasps the connections coherently in such a short time frame unless one had read the stories on Intercept.
Take a view or better yet the transcripts to get the whole picture.
the BBC always does a better job of reporting the facts and relevant meaning than the wallstreet propagandist media. It surprised me what NPR did because they used to always dig for relevance. This time they failed and my point is, they treated the subject as if it were to be dismissed and avoided. That is shocking that NPR would hold Americans to be obedient.
All i can say about that now is, GOLDMAN SUCKS.
The very same thing is going on in the United States, you know.
also Australia
…and to add insult we just got handed a Reganomics pill of voodoo dust in lieu of a budget
there’s only bullshit here… this article is a waste of time and entirelly a lie… you know nothing about the mess that was created by this “worker’s party”, who don’t support any workers interests… go to write about your country, or study more about our history, then you would be able to write something reasonable…
I don’t see your unfocussed rant as a refutation of anything Greenwald has written.
His article did not defend the Workers Party. He condemned its corruption.
And you’re just trolling.
At this point it is clear the neo-liberals have no respect for democracy or the will of the people in Brazil. If this coup succeeds, you can forget ever having a progressive party in power again. They are trying do exactly what they did in Argentina and are doing in Venezuela.
We need to realize the right wing is not playing by the same rules. If this “vote” succeeds Rousseff should refuse to step down and instead demand new elections.
What kind of democracy is it in Brazil? Guided, twisted, truncated, or even misguided, you name it. More countries have chosen the path of immorality to leadership. Unbelievable.
Is this piece of BS supposed to pass for any sort of independent reporting?… Frankly, having lived for 52 years in my home country Brazil, to suffer dilettante leftist gringos to lie so blatantly to uninformed audiences abroad is nothing short of outrageous. Someone should find Mr. Greenwald a better, more honest pastime.
You are absolutely right about American ignorance about Brazil and its politics.
But it is absurd to replace a democratically elected president with a guy who is not allowed to run for political office for 8 years,is it not?
It sounds like good old self interest is rearing its head again,in a time of economic downturn,and screw the poor.
Austerity won’t float many boats,only rich owned ones.
It is not true that he is not allowed to run for office. There is speculation that he would be deemed so, but that has not happened. And the basis for that are quite fragile – he donated more money (openly, declared) to campaigns than he was allowed to. Not clear if courts would indeed ban him from elections based on that.
Sen. Roberto Requião (PMDB) strongly criticized Temer in his statement against continuation of the process of impeachment as installing a neoliberal program, “um caminho absolutamente errado.” It’s clear. More impressive, though was Randolfe Rodrigues (REDE), who spoke strongly against corruption, stating that if Dilma’s “pedaladas” constitute a crime, then Temer has to be impeached as well, since it was Temer who signed the majority of the measures…
Brazil is now even more so the land of the future as regards the United States, as regards the U.S.’s own political future as decided by its rulers, the most powerful and dangerous plutocracy in the world. None can threaten the future of humanity to the degree that they can, and none can more effectively and decisively shape the world’s sense of reality than the military-financial-telecommunications state within the wider American state.
This is unacceptable, my vote has been stolen.
Exelente articulo !! OBRIGADA vc esta DEFENDER a DEMOCRACIA ,Sim!! Eu pergunto como pode Temer nomear nova equipe de Governo(ministros ,secretarios,etc) para ja’ ,sim ele e’ SUSTITUTO naõ SUSSESOR da Presidente q estara TEMPORALMENTE afastada ?? Sendo o Impedimento exclusivo ,SINGULAR na pessoa da Presidente da Republica e NÂO do GOVERNO, esse GOLPISTA tem feito Governo !!!! . Otra coisa fala-se q Temer tem uma fazenda (140 Hectarias ) nas afueras de SP a nome do um Laranja ,filho de um Coronel na reserva ,e a Lula por MUITO menos (sitio Atibaia ) a PF montou uma novela (noticia denunciada em Viomundo .Br. .Oi GOLPE de ESTADO de natureza IDEOLOGICA trasparese nas declaraçoes dos “senadores no dia de oi que pidem a Destitução de Dilma .
It sounds like what you’re saying, Glenn, is that there is absolutely NO ONE fit to serve as Brazil’s president, or indeed in their Congress, either. God knows how many of the Senators deciding Dilma’s fate are themselves being indicted, every single one of them is probably under investigation. You’re trying to paint this as a conspiracy, but what it really is, is a farce. It shows that when corruption is so endemic that it’s the order of the day, democracy can’t survive, since you’re just replacing one set of crooks with another.
You’re trying to paint this as a conspiracy,
NOT TRUE.
Conspiracies are planned efforts by 2 or more persons to do something in secret which results in harm to others.
Today, one does not need to conspire, because, the operating envirnment of policies is a conspiratorial framework consisting of offices and privileges that one need merely occupy.
Democracy needs to simply be maintained. Democracy is but a framework to fill the offices. It is the policies and privileges that need adjusting to maintain a “working” and “effective” democracy.
What you are addressing is not a complaint about democracy, but a complaint about ownership. OWNERSHIP in a democracy is an issue that thieving right wing predatory greedy selfish criminal minded sociopaths do not want to confront.
Right wingers suffer from an unrecognized phobia – THE FEAR OF BEING COMMON.
Altho I find many of your comments peculiar and sometimes antisemitic (the real thing, not the faux kind Zionists try to press), that is an excellent post. More like that, exclusively, please.
can do.
thank you for your valuable feedback.
always good to hear what you have to say.
The problem is that the English language sees people using the same word, ‘conspiracy’ for both the active, carefully negotiated act you described, and the much more common, and dangerous, act of multiple parties who share similar, if competitive, goals and interests independently operating in ways that damage the common good, or suppress debate. For example, the American media corporations certainly didn’t meet to plan a campaign to silence/suppress/marginalize all efforts to question the ‘WMDs in Iraq’ lie, nor did they then bring in the European, Canadian, Australian etc media to join such an effort. But independently, for varying reasons, all those media corporations did exactly that. And then, when the lie became unsustainable, they each independently admitted individual failure. But the effects of the individual acts, and an active conspiracy were identical, the motivations were identical, the only difference is the checking with each other to agree. So, is there another term in the English language, other than ‘conspiracy’ that effectively encapsulates what happened?
glad you asked.
I was about to ask you the same thing when i read your last sentence- but i will ask anyway. We really do need those words that paint that picture.
GG and company are very talented with wording. I would beg him to suggest.
thanks for asking.
“Conspiracies are planned efforts by 2 or more persons to do something in secret which results in harm to others.”
No, not only that. Conspiracies may be secret agreements to engage in unlawful behavior, but may also simply be a matter of acting in concert to achieve a common goal or goals. The acceptable definitions and uses are more varied than you claim.
It is perfectly appropriate to label the concerted efforts of Dilma’s opponents as a conspiracy.
also @Richard Pearce
Of course.
The conspiratorial network is in place so the potential for clandestine operations is built in. It’s like any corporate hierarchy except it is styled to rob like organised crime.
Power and influence offices of political parties looking for monetary gain to strengthen their power and influence are the INEVITEABLE recipe for the demise of democracy. Because political parties are a survival grouping. If we remove the need to compete for survival, would this not lessen their prominence? If we remove the need to restart comfort, would this not devalue their attraction and make light upon them as contrary?
Some day i will die. But many shall be born. What sort of world do we want to leave for them? Why should we care? John:3:16
You’re not contributing to the discussion at all with these comments. I’ve seen several (presumably) Brazilian commenters chime in with their thoughts about their country only to get these vague, tired ideological replies from you. If you were responding to these people on the same level – discussing the actual ins and outs of Brazil’s political situation, that would be one thing. But you come off as super condescending and honestly not very informed.
And your contribution is…?
“You’re trying to paint this as a conspiracy, but what it really is, is a farce.”
The two aren’t mutually exclusive and it pretty clearly is a conspiracy.
Also, please note that Glenn seems well aware of the corruption in PT (as does Lula) and that he makes no attempt to excuse or minimize it. He merely suggests that, in an ostensible democracy with a presidential system, it is properly the job of the electorate to rid itself of undesirable leadership and that it is emphatically not appropriate for long-time losers who are at least equally corrupt to do so for their own advantage.
Makes sense to me.
The elites in Paraguay did essentially the same thing a couple of years ago: If democratic elections can’t remove leaders you don’t like, just remove them undemocratically. It’s a good template for the fascists in Latin America who wax nostalgic for the 1970s and 1980s. Sad.
“The real goal is to protect corruption.”
wow
Criminal enterprises really do want to run the planet. President Obama licensed illegal wars by not charging dumya. Then he initiates corporate rule and private courts using the TPP. The US corporats must be paying cunyo and temer a lot. Then of course with TOC you have the CORPO GOV TOC trifecta.
Western countries have become radical extremists in creation of poverty and robbing the middle class. We will see how the new anti-corruption plays out in the Philipines with their new President.
Meanwhile in the US, HRC has signed on to making corruption very legal.
“President Obama licensed illegal wars by not charging dumya.”
Well, that and continuing and extending said wars on his own initiative.
no argument there.
What is astounding is the brazen power grab that is taking place right in front of your eyes. It really is not! The more violent version of this happened in Egypt – a coup in the daylight. In this case, as in the case of Egypt, US sidelined itself (along with any concerns for democracy, election, due process, …) and allowed the events take their unnatural course because that is the course in which the business opportunities lie.
I am following the brazil’s impingement process about brazil’s president reussufe, however it looks like to me really poletical motive ted by oppossions.the economy is also could definetly affected due to the global economic crisis as it is happening all over the world. So it is not really a good think for the Senate to reach to that point. This.
Dilma Rouseff is just as corrupt as Michel Temer. She is being removed because of her own actions, she is an incompetent.
I am married to a Brazilian and she and her family and friends are delighted that these crooks are being removed from office. Yes it does not solve Brazil’s problems but it does at least punish these crooks. Perhaps the so-called “elite” are exploiting the Petrobras scandal but it does not change the fact the PT party engaged in massive corruption. The democrats did indeed exploit the Nixon scandal to their gain but it did not alter the fact Richard Nixon was a crook.
The money the PT party skimmed could have gone to fixing schools, hospitals, education , and the infrastructure but it did not. It went into their coffers. It began when Rousseff was president of Petrobras and continued through her presidency. Now Brazil once one of the rising economic stars is probably going to be forced the IMF for a handout.
When it is all said and done the PT will have been shown to me another in a long list of workers parties that robbed from the rich and kept for themselves while feeding the poor copious amounts of demagoguery.
Did the PT do good? Maybe but Mussolini made the trains run on time maybe he should have stayed in office rather than be removed?
How does that characterization about Rouseff, whether true or not true or something in between, justify eliminating the choice to “remove” or not “remove” Rouseff from the hands of the populace and into the hands of the power grabbers?
He’s just tought he was in a website like globo.com. Where bots and mavs make stupid comments and seems to look legit. Not even him believes that Rousseff is a corrupt. He’s just repeating what the coup crew and the plutocrat media said. He is just a toy.
Not at all. You have to prove she has stolen a single penny. Don’t believe in what the great media tells you to do. Don’t be naive. It’s a coup. A blatant farse to install a real corrupted man in her place.
No-one disputes her corruption, so don’t cloud the issue.
The issue is the means of removal – a democaracy uses the ballot box.
Astounding how so many anti-PT educated people can’t see what this proceeding really is and it’s consequences. The outcome of Dilma’s impeachment, much more than removing PT from power, will tremendously weaken the democratic institutions in Brazil. I predict cycle upon cycle of impeachment proceedings, from here, on. As the “aseptic means” of dethroning governments we don’t like.
Ironically, I suspect, this coup-light will only embolden PT and the left, because, with the structural shortcomings of the Brazilian economy, the country will continue to struggle until the 2018 elections. One just needs to look at Argentina to see how quick the hope of improvement fades when a government-for-the-elites is elected.
And, before anyone accuses me of supporting PTropaganda, let me repeat what I said a number of times: I believe PT is a criminal enterprise, raising corporate corruption to levels not seen before; I believe that Lula and Dilma were/are conniving with the financial assault in Petrobras coffers and many other misgivings perpetrated by PT officers.
Still, the need to defend democracy and our democratic institutions is greater than the need to impeach a corrupt, inept and incompetent government.
It is not hard to predict that a significant percentage of the brazilian population supporting the impeachment will sorely regret it.
E la nave va….
I am impressed because it seems that the people of Brazil, in voting for Lula against the “market”-friendly candidate despite the corporate-owned media, know their own interests better than US-Americans do.
They may, in fact, know their interests better than USians, PI, but, at the moment, that doesn’t seem to be helping. More’s the pity.
The bosses and their minions have big sticks.
Hmmm, if it were me come November I’d consider changing the country’s name and reusing this headline.
It´s incredible that a Pullitzer winning journalist let´s himself do government propaganda and twist things like that. Failing to mention corruption under Lula, the biggest street protests Brazil´s ever seen (in support of the impeachment) or even simple things, like the fact that Mr Temer was voted into the Vice-Presidents office by the same 54 million votes given to Ms Rousseff, since he was her running mate. And that´s the only reason why he´ll be president. The scourge of thieves in Brasilia that you mention, were until yesterday PT´s allies. As politician do they simple abandoned the ship once they realized how unpopular the president was.
What this very renowned farse fails to mention is the level of corruption installed in every level of government in the 13 years of PT rule.
When the Mensalão (big monthly) happened, Brazilians believed in Lula´s innocence (I didn´t), and now it´s like they say, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… (and in PT case it closer to always fool me).
From a Brazilian, that like most, supports the impeachment of a corrupt and fiscally irresponsible government. And if you don´t believe me, just take a look at our fiscal deficit and public debt (boasted by the crime Dilma is answering to).
corruption is generally an operating environment to promote theft of public resources, it is akin to skimming. It is not good and is injurious to morale, innovation, honesty, and self determination.
However, THEFT OF POWER by usurping the democratic process is a crime against humanity. That is evil.
There is no such thing as theft of power happening in Brazil right now. We are, like USA, a republic. Every citizen, regardless of the position he held, is subjected to the law, and the president is as well. The president is not an emperor above all. Our impeachment law dates from 1950, the impeachment is cleared stated in the constitution, and the crimes that lead to this trial is stated as well.
There is no such thing as theft of power happening in Brazil right now.
not true.
The ability to take down a democratically elected person with such ease is a weapon of theft which is poison to democracy and which should cause such attempts to result in the arrest of those persons.
EXAMPLE…. EGYPT.
This trial is running with no such ease as you claim. She still is President; she did not lose the presidency, just stepped down during the trial. And after the trial she can come back and the interim president will be vice again.
Regarding being a weapon of theft, all presidents in our country had this weapon aimed to them, and the workers party tried to fire at them all the time (they tried to impeach all presidents but workers party ones), but now the impeachment is a coup, how hypocrite.
Besides, in a presidential regime, impeachment is needed, so the president will be aware that he has not a free pass to rule as he wants regardless of the law and people’s needs/needs/demands.
This one in particular, you should be aware, was not triggered by the “big media”, the right wing opposition, the CIA or any other evil group. This was triggered by the people on the streets, about 7 million, and when the opposition leaders tried to infiltrate the people shut them off right away. We now want a small government, not this monstrous morbid obese leviathan that we can’t carry anymore. We the people are thankful we have that weapon, that one the government didn’t confiscate yet.
[“We now want a small government, not this monstrous morbid obese leviathan that we can’t carry anymore. We the people are thankful we have that weapon, that one the government didn’t confiscate yet.”]
Be there and lead it on brother…it’s a good idea and a responsible one. That’s called a revolution and the US needs one too.
You are right, Dilma’s crimes justify the impeachment.
At the end of the day, Greenwald serves the State. That is what being a leftist is all about. So he wants to keep the corrupt bureaucrat in power because it preserves the great golden calf of ‘democracy.’ Keeping mob rule in tact has trumped any sort of morals, decency or standards from Glenn. Shame on you. You’re no better than the NYTimes or Washington Post.
I daresay your post is self-contradictory.
“Mob rule” more accurately describes the ousting of the president based on the huge crowds who demand it, not the democratic process Glenn argues for.
He’s not arguing against getting rid of her, but the method of doing it, and what it is likely to lead to.
It’s beyond ludicrous to accuse Greenwald of serving the state, since it’s the corruption of the state that is the main focus of his virtually all of his reporting.
You are supremely confused.
Am I the only one who read the 69 pages of the impeachment? There are 3 different charges in there and I agree with Glenn the main reason they are debating is the weakest one. But there are other 2 that I believe Glenn should have mentioned here. If I was Gleen I would go even further checking that there are 2 charges being investigated by TSE (Responsible for the Election) and another one in STF (Supreme Court) these charges, according to the information provided by the arrested people says that fraudulent money and money from laundry were used during the election campaign. If you read the election rules available on the website from TSE says that the whole party should be evicted from the election result, that’s the penalty. This means that our vice-president should also loose the office. Please Glenn, have a look into what I am saying. Thank you!
Clearly Glenn has an agenda and doesn’t care about the truth. Dilma and Lula are using his headline as ‘proof’ they are innocent and since half the country don’t know any english it is enough.
lol. if only there was a translation of this article
you have not made a case in favor of temer and cunyo.
It seems to be you who doesn’t care about the truth, not Greenwald.
His article does not defend Dilma and Lulu, but criticizes them. So you are lying.
If those two are trying to use the headline to defend themselves, then they are lying.
If people in the country believe their lies, that can hardly be Greenwald’s fault. He has reported the truth.
Another person paid to write smears against Rousseff and assist the Coup, get out of here concern troll!
Just another CIA Coup D’ Etat in LatinoAmerica. Business as usual.
the CIA are the new international organised criminal enterprise for dealing drugs to get money to pay politicians.
Cunyo must be getting his cashola from somewhere, could be the CIA. That is what the CIA is famous for. They do it in America and in the DR. Also Cambodia.
What is that loud flushing sound?
Thanks, Greenwald, for showing the world what our brazilian partisan midia has been hiding for so long! I’m really, really thankful.
Dilma’s Press Release.
Hi! I believe that – amazingly – you somehow missed an entire paragraph from the article. Read critically, or don’t bother:
None of this is a defense of PT. That party – as even Lula acknowledged to me in my interview of him – is filled with serious corruption. Dilma, in many critical ways, has been a failed president, and is deeply unpopular. They have often aligned with and served the country’s elite at the expense of their base of poor supporters. The country is suffering economically and in almost every other way.
Apart from that paragraph, the rest is PT’s propaganda.
The story Gleen is telling is a major simplification and uses the dichotomy created by PT: good x bad, left x right, poor x rich.
It’s not that simple and it is based on a lie. Everyone of these terrible and corrupt politicians were PT allies until a few months ago.
And Glenn paints a picture where it seems Brazil has no indepedent media, and that is simply not the case. We have a completely free press. You could argue that half a dozen groups control the majority of media, but there are hundreds of independent media outlets, including left wing magazines.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_jornais_do_Brasil
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_revistas_do_Brasil
Glenn says that the “right” is taking over and is gonna cut on social programs and to stop corruption investigations but Temer has already said that he fully supports Lava Jato and is not gonna cut on social programs.
Glenn likes to think Temer is much more corrupt than Dilma, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Dilma has surrounded herself with very corrupt politicians and she has comitted several crimes.
One of them was fiscal manipulation to win the last election.
But there are so many others:
1) She obstructed justice by nominating Lula her minister so he could not be sent to jail
2) She was the head of Petrobras during major corruption scandals (there’s her signature in many dirty contracts)
3) She sent Delcidio Amaral, PT’s leader on the Senate, to bribe Nestor Cerveró (who was in jail for corruption on Petrobras)
4) She sent Aloisio Mercadante (one of her closest allies and ministers) to stop Delcidio Amaral from telling the truth about Petrobras scandals
5) She was elected with dirty money from Petrobras.
6) Dozens of her personally appointed ministers are being charged or investigated for corruption.
“It’s also an important lesson for anyone, in countries all over the world, who blithely assume that things will continue as is or that they’re guaranteed stability and ongoing progress.”
Yes, and this would include the U.S., of course.
My name is Fabio de Oliveira Ribeiro and I have some things to say about the Brazilian crisis.
Engrave well what I will say. Today Brazilian democracy was raped by the financial market with the help of a gangster gang that seized the Brazilian parliament and took by force the presidential power with a single purpose: to reduce the rights and salaries of the Brazilian people and cover up the crimes they themselves committed.
My vote for president was burned as if it had no value and I was demoted from citizen to servant of a tyrant named Michel Temer. All this made me very angry.
But what caused me more indignation is in my pocket. This morning I received it by mail. This is an international fancy credit card.
On the same day that steals my citizenship the financial market wants to turn me into a slave of debt that I do not wish to have. I do not want this fancy intenational credit card. I want is my Brazilian citizenship back. I want is that my vote for Dilma Rousseff is respected. Thank you.
Video: https://www.facebook.com/fabio.deoliveiraribeiro/videos/vb.100000415136357/1202827286407764/?type=2&theater¬if_t=video_processed¬if_id=1462967827388535
If this Michel Temer doesn’t remind one of a mafia Don in the good ol’ US of A!
You mean one of crooked Hillary’s Wall Street racketeering crew ?
Thanks so much for denouncing the coup to the world. That’s brave!
Also, when making references to the military dictatorship – and left and right wing parties – it is worth noting that all 3 main parties in Brazil were born in the opposition to the dictatorship: PMDB, PSDB and PT. PSDB was created by the left-wing of the PMDB party in the 80s and to this day has former comunists and current social-democrats as party members. The last vice-presidential candidate, profiled by the Intercept, was a communist guerrila member working with the most notorious armed revolutionary faction at the time.
Lula himself has said in speeches a few years back that Brazil has progressed politically to a point where only left-wing parties dispute presidential elections, essentially recognizing PSDB as a left-wing party.
All 3 parties have move steadily to the right.
The point is, PT’s is not the incarnation of the opposition to the right-wing and dictatorship, far from it.
Also, Lula himself was never a socialist. And PT voting base has shifted dramatically since gaining power: they now lose in all the areas where the party first formed: the working-class, industrial districts in the south and south-east of the country. In 2002, Lula lost in the North and Northeast regions. Things have since completely reversed. PT is the strongest in the North and Northeast regions and partly they achieved that through alliances with oligarchical “chieftains” in these states, where politics are presominantly defined by patronage and family ties.
There are a lot of myths and cliches about PT and Brazil that mislead foreign observers.
I’m amazed by the weakness of your superficial attempt of a political analysis.
Stop watching Globo TV and repeating their lies and arguments. Use you intelligence .
Glenn, do you ever heard about Pasadena Refinery? Bought during Dilma’s period in Petrobras. One year before this transaction, another group named Astra Oil bought it for USD42MM and Petrobras spent USD 360MM for 50% of it. What do you think about it? In the end Petrobras spent USD 1.18Billion. 27x more than Astra paid for it.
I’d like to know why you didn’t say anything about the person of Dilma Rousseff be accused of crimes, for example when she was Minister at the construction of Belo Monte (which has indications of bribe); when she was member of the Petrobras council when buying Pasadena, the worst deal ever, losing bilions of dollars (and also indications of bribe); when she indicated the STJ minister to free the Oderbrescht’s president that has been arrested for corruption; when she indicated Lula for minister trying to avoid prision; when she asked Delcidio and Mercadante to try to avoid delações from prisioners from corruption
I also would like to know why you didn’t say anything about the 2 charges of the impeachment
regards
Accusations, as you said, are not convictions, Raul. That’s what it is all about. If she becomes convicted for her acts during her term, then she really should be ousted (after, by legal, not political action). Not before, as we are witnessing (and I don’t like PT, nor her government). Best!
Wait a minute. What exactly makes him a liberal? The fact that he is going to throw people with a different opinion in prison? The fact that he uses corrupt politics? Maybe beibg neoliberal and extremely conservative is the same thing?
Dear Glenn Greenwald thank you for offering in so many opportunities a lucid, sincere and clear analysis about my country. In an impeccable language, directly to the point your articles are like a manna to a famished, hunger man, delivering a bit of justice at least in the
form of words. Thank you.
While the balanced view of the parties is a step up from partisanship, that balanced view is self contradictory in the following way:
“But the solution to that is to defeat them at the ballot box”
With who? The author indicates that the likely scenario is the PT (whichever new face they offer) will win – a party already admittedly corrupt.
Perhaps a paradigm shift is needed, a realization that ballots are an element of a failed structure, and will not produce change to the structure they are part of.
I also wish The Intercept would do some reporting about the corruption case surrounding Petrobras and the Dilma’s place in it.
You and most of the international have been repeating that she has not been personally implicated, implying she is innocent, which you can only do by avoiding altogether talking the facts of the case, giving only these almost dismissive generic statements that “there is a lot of corruption”. If you explain in detail the case it will become apparent to your readers what most reasonable observers in Brasil see: that it is inconceivable that Dilma was not involved in the massive scheme.
Petrobras and the money diverted from it were the bedrock of PT’s governance model. They bought congressional votes with it, forged alliances and financed campaigns. The company was so central that the key political operatives at Perrobras became party leaders: Delcidio as the leader in the Senate, Dilma hand-picked presidential candidate by Lula. She was the chairman of Petrobras and Minister of Energy. It is evident that she was complicit. She may indeed never had personally received any money, but her campaigns did, and for that the treasurer of her party and the manager of her campaign were arrested. But she must have consented to the scheme and that was probably her role. Possibly (speculatively) she was, like Lula, supposed to receive her riches after her mandate only.
I don’t know how you turn this into a narrative of innocence.
How should any of this corruption “be where it lay” stop a New Election by the people and for the people? That is the whole picture of why dismantling democracy is being used. Wipe out and start new (without the involvement of FOREIGN governments and big business). The people of Brazil should rightfully demand it.
Well, I would absolutely support new elections, but that’s not that simple to achieve. There is no constitutional provision for that, aside from the election tribunal calling the last elections null by fraud. Also, people and factions on both sides oppose it.
It’s funny, beacause impeaching a president that commited no crime (no, she didn’t, the billion dollar pedaladas is a bullshit reason) is not simple to achieve and there is no constitutional provision for that either.
It’s because the dictator is a leftist, and a female. So Greenwald happily tries to prop up her dictatorship. See, he’s absolutely no better than hacks at the Washington Post or the New York Times.
That is an idiotic comment.
Glenn I applaud your courage and boldness to get the word out. I must admit while living in Atlanta (at the time) before, during and after the Olympics…having inside informal testimonies of the absolute corruption of the Olympics itself displacing ordinary citizens from their homes, disappearing homeless souls, and also running a mafia style lottery that stole millions (if not more) of the tickets that were sold. Not to mention the military involvement of security and bloated expenses. PEOPLE really need to BOYCOTT this terrible excuse of international superhumaness over the plight of the poor. It really showcases the rich and their power by a deceptive cloak tainted by drugs, judges and total corruption. It’s a disgrace and leaves the taxpayers in cities in which they were hosted burdened with the fruit of an intentional mass of fraud…leaving many especially those on fixed incomes homeless. The people of Brazil need to BOYCOTT this upcoming parallel to their dismantling of democracy.
Modern civilization, current humanity, and all that goes with it, enters the slipstream of the last river and hurriedly floats towards the abyss.
Glenn,
“Cry the Beloved country”
It’s a shame. The PT were making progress at mastering the art of spouting left wing rhetoric while serving corporate interests. If Mrs. Clinton were not otherwise occupied, she could have made a trip to Brazil to give them a few pointers.
But alas! The right wing opposition parties – whose job is to scare voters into supporting a corrupt left wing party – insisted on putting their own parochial desire for more power ahead of the national interest. It’s too late for Brazil, but I hope the United States will learn from this mistake.
The US will learn from Brasil’s mistake. The US is on the path of privitisation of all govt services which turns corruption into nontaxable business transactions. With the help of HRC the US govt will be bankrupt in no time at all.
This will save money on congressional inquisition committees because these conflicts of interest will be resolved in private tribunals instead of courts thanks to the TPP.
At the same time, the removal of all government from all things will allow for massive profits as corporations raise prices and availability and extend credit to young persons who have a lifetime to pay for goods and services.
It is not true that impeachment in Brazil is unlike other countries with a Presidential system. The only reason a vice-president from a different party will become president is because that is how they form their ticket. Impeachment has nothing to do with that.
The law didn’t force Dilma to run with a vice-president from a different party. In fact, other tickets in the last election were not like that. PSDB ran with their members only. This is the outcome of the spurious alliances by PT, PMDB, PP.
Temer and PMDB have been part of the ruling coalition for a long time, winning all these elections with PT. They held important cabinet positions for over a decade. In fact, in the early phases of this political crisis, when Dilma’s government began to unravel, she put Temer officially at the political helm of her government – this was last year, and at that time the opposition criticized her for essentially outsourcing her government to Temer.
So it is an absurd cynicism by the PT partisans to suddenly denounce Temer as a neoliberal usurper. Politically, he is not that different from PT, he has run with “left-leaning” candidates for a long time, including in the same ticket Erundina, a socialist now at PSOL.
The reality is that these parties are all plsgued by physiologism and lacking in ideology. PT has governed as a neoliberal party. The people now slated to be on charge of Temer’s treasury and finance ministries also served in these functions under Lula.
Also, the allegation that Temer is far more corrupt than Dilma is completely unsubstantiated.
Having said that, I do agree that this impeachment is bad for the country and it is legally flawed. But I don’t share the view that it is “dismantling democracy” because it is carried out according to the Constitutional process and decided by the people elected by the voters. 2/3 of the both houses – elected legislators – must agree to the definitive impeachment, while the unelected Supreme Court validates if the rites under the Constitutions are followed. That’s democracy, even if flawed and under crisis.
Is not democracy, when a VP go put in the gov. names of the OPPOSITION.
How you go explain to someone in a country in USA, a democrat VP putting George Bush in a State position? Is just non-sense. The VP is elected by left-wing votes, not by Aecio’s votes.
Is absurd. Is like the VP of Aécio get the power and put Lula in the Ministery of Justice for example.
What is happening in Brazil is one of the most absurd things since the start of the New Republic.
Yes, that is absurd for PMDB to do, I agree. But 2 things: a) this absurdity is incrimanting of this government. b) PT did basically the same thing, multiple times. Kátia Abreu. Joaquin Levy. Henrique Meirelles.
They are kick out a elected president, how is that not a coup? It fits the exact definition.
She was not kicked.
Technically she is still the president, and the vice is now an interim president during this impeachment trial. The now interim will only become de juris if she is found guilty. If not, she will be back.
And the vice was elected either. Voters did not vote for Dilma. They voted for Dilma/Temer, for they were running mates. According to our constitution, and our Electoral court just stated this yesterday, Temer is a legit President as Dilma was.
Really??? How come? Como assim, brother, a Dilma pode ter um bilhão de defeitos, mas mais corrupta que o Temer aí é forçar muuuito a amizade.
Não há Denúncias de corrupção contra nenhum dos dois. Há acusações contra os dois, mas denúncias não foram feitas pelo procurador geral.
Okay, so there seems to be agreement that Lula’s party is now corrupt. Apparently the new temp president works for a party that’s even more corrupt.
Question is: how do you fix our darling PT. I don’t believe that allowing them to stay in power would be a good incentive for them to cleanse themselves from the accumulated corruption over the past 14 years or so.
Maybe, if the PT is such a good party of the people, they can take the 2 years between now and the next election to re-purify and be again a party for the people rather than a corrupt tools of the oligarchs?
The voters probably would agree and make that decision. But an even more corrupt rightwing elite — using their dominant media position as a giant propaganda machine — should not be removing PT by virtual, non-violent coup. Including by using the impeachment process inappropriately.
If you’re asking how you can ensure a political party does not succumb to corruption, you’re asking a very complicated question. In part it has to do with law enforcement, deterrence, culture, and so forth. More fundamentally, however, it has to do with the same root cause of other problems in the global capitalist system: the dictatorial-hierarchical structure of corporations. Without it, it seems unlikely corporations would be bribing their way to greater wealth.
Yes, that’s the question I am asking because power corrupts and there’s no way a group that became corrupt while in power is going to cleanse itself . They need to be removed from power and then the ‘other’ equally corrupt group will have an opportunity to punish the guilty on the other side. So this ‘coup’ can be a good thing if there is a willingness in Lula’s party to embrace or re-embrace ‘honesty’.
Of course, this is not a predetermined outcome. Look at Obama and his party. Once they became the nominal custodians of ‘power’ they decided not to prosecute Bush’s torturers and murderers and they probably expect that their own ‘kill list’ murderers are not going to be inconvenienced if ‘the other party’ replaces them in a few months. You allow this to happen for too many cycles and then you get a violent revolution and then everyone is happy for a short while.
Three months to go until the start of the Rio Olympic Games, is it pretty much assumed that getting through that without major disruption/cancellations will be the immediate term make or break for the new government?
I really hope that the olympics get to be a big failure.
The IOC is based on corruption, so I’m sure it will fit in with Brazil very nicely. (For that matter, how did it end up there to start with?) Maybe a gymnast will leave his nuts on a broken vaulting horse or something, which would certainly improve ratings. :)
“(For that matter, how did it end up there to start with?)”
Politics…it is unfortunately tied with big money, corporations, and a way to attract future big business. Most citizens don’t see the dark side nor the internal corruption. I have boycotted this disgrace ever since finding the truth.
It´s astonishing to see how people inside Brazil and abroad can align with PT-Lula and Dilma.
These people and coligated organizations (PT-MST-CUT) that are supporting rougue countries such as Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Iran, Turkey etc….
Brazilian impeachment process is legal and shows how a virus can be extirped from a government.
I was referring to the OIC. I’m not sure what you are referring to
“that are supporting rougue countries such as Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Iran, Turkey etc…”
What do you mean by their being rogue?
Also if the impeachment process is legal then by all means impeach the whole lot, make an Amendment to your Constitution and have New Elections. Otherwise, this business of selecting one corruption over another will find its place in chaos and a new revolution will take its place. A virus can also morph into a cancer if not totally eradicated.