Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer made big news last week when it announced a ban on the use of its drugs to carry out the death penalty by lethal injection. “Sweeping controls on the distribution of its products” have clamped shut “the last remaining open-market source of drugs used in executions,” the New York Times reported, calling it a milestone in the fight against capital punishment.
Somewhat buried in the flurry of headlines that followed was the fact that Pfizer has never been known to supply states with execution drugs. It is only after the company acquired a different drug company last year — Hospira Inc., which produced several drugs states have used or intend to use in executions — that Pfizer put such restrictions in place. This doesn’t make its policy any less important: “Pfizer has closed the circle,” said Arizona federal public defender Dale Baich, who litigates lethal injection challenges across the country. “The states can no longer obtain drugs from legitimate and legal sources.” But as Baich and others know too well, many states stopped seeking drugs from legitimate sources a long time ago. Today, most active death penalty states rely on anonymous compounding pharmacies, whose loose regulations vary wildly from state to state, making them dangerously unreliable compared to FDA approved drug companies when it comes to the efficacy of their products. Other states have broken federal law by importing illicit drugs from overseas. In driving states to the underground market, Pfizer’s announcement merely makes official what has already been happening for years.
Take Texas, which has carried out six executions so far this year and has eight more scheduled through the fall. There, prison officials were decidedly unfazed by the news. “It’s not anticipated that Pfizer’s decision will have an impact on the agency’s current ability to carry out executions,” Texas Department of Criminal Justice spokesperson Jason Clark wrote in an email to The Intercept. So where does Texas get its drugs if not through companies like Pfizer? Today, we’re not allowed to know the answer to that question. “State law prevents the disclosure of the identity of the supplier of execution drugs,” Clark wrote, saying only that they come from a “licensed pharmacy that has the ability to compound.” The official rationale for the policy — which became effective last September — is that secrecy is the only guarantee of safety for those companies still willing to supply drugs for executions. “Pharmacies don’t have security details,” Deputy Texas Solicitor General Matthew Frederick told an appellate court earlier this month, opposing a legal challenge to the law. “Their only protection is anonymity. Once you take that away … there’s nothing they can do to protect themselves.”
The problem with such ominous rhetoric is that there is virtually no evidence to back it up. For years, suppliers of lethal injection drugs in Texas could be identified via open records requests, without incident. But in the fall of 2013, a local company, Woodlands Compounding Pharmacy, was revealed to have provided pentobarbital for executions, prompting the owner to complain about “hate mail” and unwanted media attention — and to ask for its drugs back. Some months later, the Texas Department of Public Safety released a threat assessment, warning that pharmacies like Woodlands are a “soft target for violent attacks” and that “publicly linking a pharmacy or other drug supplier to the production of controlled substances to be used in executions presents a substantial threat of physical harm … and should be avoided to the greatest extent possible.” As the Texas Observer reported, the only evidence for such threats offered by Texas officials included a strongly worded letter to Woodlands and a random blog post featuring an image of an exploding head.
Today, lethal injection secrecy statutes exist in some dozen states and counting, under the same pretense of security. “The states have never offered any proof that a manufacturer has been harassed,” said Baich. Yet the claim has become entrenched. In Mississippi, Attorney General Jim Hood recently praised lawmakers for passing a secrecy bill drafted by his office, stressing the need for drug suppliers to “be free from the intimidation and strong-arm tactics of some anti-death penalty activists.”
For years, lawyers and journalists have argued that the real purpose of such laws is to block scrutiny of states’ execution protocols. In effect, they have also “prevented manufacturers from learning how states have gotten a hold of the pharmaceutical products they have been using in executions,” said Robert Dunham of the Death Penalty Information Center. Pfizer’s tight new restrictions, Dunham said, are “designed to counter” such secrecy. With Pfizer’s announcement last week, the most significant challenge will not be overcoming state secrecy to ensure that major drug corporations can keep such promises. The bigger problem is how to hold states accountable to the Constitution as they do business with faceless companies that have no ethical qualms about selling execution drugs. “As compounding pharmacies do this in the dark,” said Maya Foa of the human rights group Reprieve, which has led the effort to convince the pharmaceutical industry to block its drugs for use in executions, “it is just going to a create more of a mess — potentially, more botched executions.”
Thiopental Sodium on a tray, Thiopental Sodium is used as a barbiturate general anesthetic.
Photo: UIG/Getty Images
The image of abolitionist bullies threatening drug suppliers — or as Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito put it last year, waging “guerrilla warfare against the death penalty” — is a relatively new invention. Its origin can be traced back to the drug shortages that first set the stage for the current upheaval around lethal injection — and which inspired perhaps the country’s most far-reaching lethal injection secrecy law, in Georgia.
In August 2009, Hospira Inc. ceased production of the anesthetic sodium thiopental (a key ingredient in what was then the standard three-drug protocol in use across the country), after one of its suppliers stopped making a crucial ingredient. At first, Hospira planned to move its production to Italy, but after Reprieve successfully pressured the Italian government to block the export of such drugs for the use of U.S. executions, the company stopped manufacturing the drug altogether.
With their go-to supplier of sodium thiopental no longer an option, death penalty states started seeking other sources — and before long, some disturbing consequences emerged. In 2010, just days after the Arizona Republic revealed that local prison officials had imported sodium thiopental from overseas, Dale Baich witnessed the death of a client named Jeffrey Landrigan, whose execution appeared to go awry. While it was not the dramatic two-hour ordeal later suffered by a different client, Joseph Wood, in 2015, Landrigan’s death was alarming for one lurid detail: He died with his eyes open. Baich would later learn that the sodium thiopental used to kill Landrigan had almost certainly expired. This meant that he was not properly anesthetized when the second drug, a paralytic, kicked in. The inescapable conclusion: Landrigan was conscious and frozen in place as the third drug, potassium chloride, seeped into his veins and stopped his heart — an “agonizing” way to die, according to one anesthesiologist.
The same batch of sodium thiopental used to kill Landrigan in Arizona was also linked to two executions in Georgia around that time — Brandon Rhode in September 2010 and Emmanuel Hammond in January 2011. Both men died like Landrigan, with their eyes open. In an interview for an article I wrote for The Nation in 2011, Hammond’s lawyer said her client’s death had appeared painful — “like nothing I have ever seen before.”
Because Georgia’s open records law at the time allowed the disclosure of the state’s source of lethal injection drugs, Hammond’s lawyers were able to trace the sodium thiopental used to kill him to a strange Britain-based pharmaceutical wholesaler named Dream Pharma Ltd. As I wrote at the time, its headquarters were “a rented space in the back of a driving school in a West London suburb. Its bare-bones website boasts that it can provide ‘discontinued’ and ‘hard to find’ drugs to customers, promising that ‘confidentiality will remain paramount.’” Not long after news broke of the state’s sketchy execution source, the DEA seized Georgia’s supply of sodium thiopental, citing “questions about the way the drugs were imported.”
Following the DEA raid, two things happened quickly. First, Georgia hastily adopted a new drug to replace sodium thiopental: the barbiturate pentobarbital, over the objections of a Danish company named Lundbeck Inc., which warned the state that the drug was not meant for such use. Georgia ignored Lundbeck’s warnings, using the pentobarbital to execute Roy Blankenship, who “jerked his head,” lunged “with his mouth agape” and whose eyes “never closed,” according to one AP reporter in June 2011.
Second, on the urging of the Georgia Department of Corrections, lawmakers drafted a bill to block the release of any information about executions under the Open Records Act. Georgia’s Lethal Injection Secrecy Act, passed in March 2013, classifies as a “confidential state secret” the identity of “any person or entity who participates in or administers the execution of a death sentence” or who “manufactures, supplies, compounds, or prescribes the drugs, medical supplies, or medical equipment utilized in the execution of a death sentence.”
Apart from its assault on transparency, Georgia’s law now meant that condemned prisoners were not entitled to know the source of the drugs that would be used to kill them. This “created a catch-22 for any death-row inmate seeking to challenge Georgia’s lethal injection protocols,” as legal reporter Andrew Cohen wrote at the time. Without any information about where the state procured its drugs, prisoners could not fight their executions on Eighth Amendment grounds — even as they had ample reason to fear a cruel and unusual death. Nevertheless, in 2014, the Georgia Supreme Court upheld the new law, calling the need for secrecy “obvious,” in order to avoid the “risk of harassment or some other form of retaliation” for those involved in executions — despite any lack of evidence that such risks existed.
As secrecy laws have continued to pass, most recently, Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia took a bizarre stance on the matter, urging lawmakers to reject a bill that would make the electric chair the state’s default mode of execution if drugs cannot be found for lethal injection, while pushing to conceal the identity of execution drug suppliers. Absent such a law, McAuliffe argued, “manufacturers will not do business in Virginia if their identities are to be revealed.”
By the time Pfizer made its decision to block drugs for executions, Foa had already worked with some two dozen other drug companies, from the U.S. to Europe, to find a way to cut off the supplies for U.S. executions. Contrary to the image of aggressive abolitionists, there was no ambush involved. “From the moment it purchased Hospira, Pfizer wanted a solution,” Foa said.
The first company Foa worked with was Lundbeck — the drug manufacturer who tried to prevent the state of Georgia from using its drugs to kill Roy Blankenship in 2011. In an email to The Intercept, Lundbeck’s communications director, Anders Schroll, recalled what happened. Reprieve contacted Lundbeck soon after the company discovered its “product misuse” in 2011. “We had a constructive dialogue,” Schroll said. This included “a couple of face-to-face meetings in Copenhagen and an active dialogue over the phone and via mail,” Schroll wrote. The company had suffered a wave of bad press over its drugs being used for executions, including an open letter published in The Lancet, in which a large number of doctors said they were “appalled at the inaction of Lundbeck” to prevent pentobarbital from being used in executions. Foa recalls the company acting in good faith — and Schroll said that it was a challenge to find “a way to restrict distribution while continuing to make it available for the small patient population who need it for emergency situations related to seizures. Striking that delicate balance wasn’t easy,” he wrote, “but all things considered, it was a very short time from learning about the misuse of our product to revamping the entire distribution system — just five months — and we did something no other company had achieved until that point, which was to cut off supply to prisons.”
Pfizer did not return multiple emails about its own process. But Foa describes it as similarly collaborative, not antagonistic, as well as much easier than the process with Lundbeck. As the industry has moved toward making such restrictions the industry standard, “the terrain is much more mapped out.”
In the wake of Pfizer’s announcement, the state of the death penalty across the country remains in disarray. As some states have gone backward, passing laws to bring back firing squads and electric chairs, those that insist on keeping lethal injection have proven shameless in their quest. Long after Georgia’s Dream Pharma debacle of 2011, the past few years have shown the absurd (and illegal) sources states have continued to find for their drugs — from “the salesman in India with no pharmaceutical background” who sold drugs to at least four states in violation of federal law, as BuzzFeed reported last fall, to a local hospital in Louisiana that inadvertently sent prison officials 20 vials of hydromorphone in 2014. (“Had we known of the real use,” one official told local news site The Lens, “we never would have done it.”)
Email records obtained by journalists have revealed “a disturbing flippancy” about the process, as reporter Katie Fretland reported in 2014, describing how Oklahoma officials joked in 2011 that, in exchange for helping Texas obtain elusive pentobarbital, they might be able to get “much sought-after 50-yard-line tickets to the Red River Rivalry, a football game between the University of Oklahoma and the University of Texas.” In that state, whose execution protocol was upheld by the Supreme Court just last year, officials have exhibited shocking levels of incompetence and dishonesty when it comes to carrying it out.
Such revelations continue. Less than a week before Pfizer’s big announcement, the ACLU of Northern California released 12,000 pages of records from the California Department of Correction and Rehabilitation (CDCR). Through a similar records request years ago, the local ACLU chapter had discovered that California, too, had sought drugs high and low, including from local hospitals, only to end up with part of Arizona’s illegal shipment of drugs from Dream Pharma. (“You guys in AZ are life savers,” one California official wrote over email in 2010.) Reading the most recent batch of records is like bad déjà vu. One set of documents shows that CDCR yet again contemplated purchasing drugs from a pharmacy in the U.K. “We could do it again …” reads an email message from a consultant, an apparent reference to the disastrous purchase from Dream Pharma.
The documents also revealed a chilling attitude about recent botched executions. Criticizing the “big hoopla” surrounding the 2014 death of Dennis McGuire in Ohio — who writhed and gasped for air, according to witnesses — CDCR attorney Kelly McClease dismissed that ghastly spectacle as “snoring.”
Over email, Ana Zamora, criminal justice policy director for the ACLU of Northern California, said Pfizer’s decision does not stand to affect the death penalty there, since the company “does not manufacture any of the four drugs authorized for use” in the state. “The Pfizer decision, however, increases the likelihood that the CDCR will turn to troubling and costly sources to acquire lethal injection drugs,” she said. And the newly released records show that officials have considered purchasing drugs from “online pharmacies that boast offering cheap drugs without a prescription.” What’s more, records reveal that contrary to the CDCR’s public estimate that such drugs would cost $4,193 per execution, the department appears well aware that “a particular compounding pharmacy” would charge “between $133,080 and $150,000” per execution.
Although California has not carried out an execution in more than 10 years, there are active efforts underway to restart the state’s death machinery. And while there is no secrecy law in California, history suggests it is only a matter of time before someone decides such legislation is necessary. Zamara’s primary concern, she said, is that California has not learned any lessons from recent botched executions in other states. “If the CDCR acquires lethal injection drugs from sources that cannot ensure proper dosage, sterility, potency,” she said, “this will greatly increase the risk that an execution could go terribly wrong in California too.”
The Death penalty is to easy on the condemned. I do not feel that it is right or ethical to kill another because they have killed because it makes me a killer too!. Let them spend time and be rehabilitated. Intelligence is always compassionate.
“If men are not afraid to die,
It is no avail to threaten them with death.
If men live in constant fear of dying,
And if breaking the law means that a man will be killed,
Who will dare to break the law?
There is always an official executioner.
If you try to take his place,
It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood.
If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
WTF! why are we paying those companies for so called death drugs. Poisons have been big business since time immemorial and you can get the best poisons from any chemist. I’m sure compounds based on arsenic or cyanide are cheap quick and highly effective. And anyway why are we using chemicals at all. Why not hanging or firing squad. There is some macabre fixation with seeing people tortured to death.
Are you really trying to help find “better” ways to kill people?
Death penalty drug suppliers protected from harassment by state laws,
women’s health providers, not so much.
It amazes me that an execution performed w/ illegal/illicit drugs is somehow “legal”
I see that many commenters are helpfully trying to think up new ways for the US government to kill people. And I find it hard to resist the urge to be helpful as well.
The best way to start is with a root cause analysis. This reveals the limits of the medical and pharmaceutical professions – they simply attract too few killers. This can be remedied, but it will take a generation to effect real change.
Silicon Valley, on the other hand, appeals to much more ruthless types. So why not inject nanobots to kill people? They would devour the convicted person from the inside. People initially might fear that the nanobots would replicate and attack the general population. But they could be engineered with short life spans, so that the risk would be quite small.
Americans of course, will demand a high tech way of killing people. But past civilizations do have some interesting solutions to this problem. Placing the condemned on a stone slab, slashing him open with a stone knife, and ripping the beating heart from the open chest cavity is far more theatrical than modern executions.
It’s also puzzling to me why gladiatorial battles have gone out of style. Having criminals fight each other to the death would negate the need for an executioner all together. Some purists probably object to the idea of turning executions into entertainment. But purists also objected to the distribution of motion pictures.
In short, the crisis in America seems to be a lack of imagination. Governments are trapped in a cycle of applying the same failed solutions to the same problems. Official Washington is so convinced that America is already great, they refuse to consider new approaches. Hopefully that will change.
When the nanobots become self aware who will come forward as their messiah?
Will the nanabots consider themselves to be the rightful heir to all creation?
With an engineered short lifespan and inversely fruitful reproduction cycle, the general population would most certainly be at great risk.
Few humans would survive the nanoinqusition as our ears can’t hear the frequency those little devils communicate at.
Who is to say the foregoing has not been happening with viruses for millennia?
Who says lack of imagination is the problem? Benito Mussolini
Who says lack of originality is the problem? Guess
Obviously the death penalty was never meant to be just. it is revenge, pure and simple. Some like this idea some don’t. I find the liberal opposition blaming Christians to be beyond asinine, even for liberals. I think the comment on Oxycontin takes the cake. 5.5 ounces? I’ve read that Canada is using the highest and purest grade of heroin to treat addiction. I don’t suppose overdosing a person with heroin would be seen as humane but they certainly wouldn’t be feeling anything.
Is it really that difficult for any Chemist to make the drugs required? States make exceptions to laws for themselves all the time. Finding precursor chemicals should be pretty simple. I think the entire subject is beyond stupid. If you’re going to kill a person just shoot them. It is faster than anything else. Hanging, gas chamber, electric chair are all torture.
Maybe some day we’ll come to understand that if we want people to cherish life the state needs to set the example. Maybe some day people will realize that when the state kills an innocent it is done in their name and they are equally guilty. Of course the state never is held accountable for killing an innocent. That’s only for individuals. Kill a person and the execute you. kill a million and they invite you to Geneva to negotiate.
The death penalty which is still legal in some states has left the authorities to seek drugs from other sources than big pharma. The death penalty is still barbaric even if done by injecting an overdose of drugs. Since drugs can’t be used effectively, for whatever reason, how about a firing squad? Bullets are cheap quick and highly 100% effective. A barbaric practice by some barbarity. If this method is unacceptable they can always use hanging or as in the middle east beheading. I think it’s time to end this once and for all, if for no other reason that sometimes they have the wrong person.
It’s bad enough to use these horrific torture/death drugs on those who are actually guilty, but it takes on an urgent new meaning when those being tortured and killed could very well be innocent of the crime for which they are being tortured and killed.
The Innocence Project has determined that the leading cause of wrongful convictions in capital cases (72%) is simple misidentification by a supposed eyewitness. In other words, you can be totally innocent, yet still be wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death row only to have this nightmarish scenario culminate in horrific torture and agonizing death years down the road simply on the basis of someone saying they saw you do it.
In its study of death row inmates in Illinois, the Project found that around 10% of those awaiting execution were innocent. Now, if a relatively sane, mid-western state like Illinois has a fuck up rate of 10%, one can only imagine the carnage of innocence occurring in places like kill-happy Texas, vindictive Georgia and other social backwaters more interested in political gain and revenue streams than they will ever be about justice.
Pentobarbital is a very effective one drug protocol – safe, painless.
Any compounding pharmacist can make it.
Any and all prison systems can hire their own compounding pharmacists
RE: Humor, Pfizer, Morality & Lethal Injection
Pfizer, a huge pharmaceutical company, just came out with a statement as to how they would stop their drugs being used in lethal injection executions.
It was laughable in the relevant issues that were omitted, by both Pfizer and the media reports.
The Hippocratic Oath bans both euthanasia and abortion, not the death penalty (1).
Do Pfizer and other drug companies ban the use of their drugs for abortion and euthanasia? Of course not.
Renamed – The Hypocrisy Oath (1).
Lethal injections began in 1982. Pfizer waited 34 years.
The best lethal injection drug, now, is pentobarbital, not controlled by Pfizer.
” . . . in 1995, a report in JAMA said that, “Over a million patients are injured in U.S. hospitals each year, and approximately 280,000 die annually as a result of these injuries.”(1).
As a result, the drug companies have suspended their drug distributions to the hospitals/doctors with the highest rates of innocent patient deaths via drug/prescription errors – well no, not really, of course.
Innocents are more protected with the death penalty than without it (2).
“Do no harm”? Really?
Oh, well.
1) The Death Penalty & Medical Ethics Revisited
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2015/09/the-death-penalty-medical-ethics.html
2) The Death Penalty: Saving More Innocent Lives
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-death-penalty-do-innocents-matter.html
I am in 7th grade and this website helped me a lot with a debate in history soooooooo thanx ig
“‘You guys in AZ are life savers,’ one California official wrote over email in 2010″
Was this official intentionally being ironic and piece-of-shitty?
It’s real simple.
Mt:5:21: Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Two evils don’t make a good.
Those who participate in any way are NOT real Christians but engage in vanity, deception and fraud and should not be trusted.
Son of the father, you are right.
Clear it is, Thou shall not kill but Americans are exceptional.
They can kill. They have been killing for years. The more they kill, the more they need to kill. They kill at home and they most certainly kill abroad.
They kill a suspect terrorist and then kill the family of that suspect. They kill here, they kill there, those damned Americans kill everywhere.
They kill innocents, they kill who ever they like and they are proud that they kill them.
It is mercy not sacrifice that wins favour with the Lord.
Death to America
Reconsider.
New Testament Death Penalty Support Overwhelming
Dudley Sharp
With the recent anti death penalty Christian movement, one should ask “Did biblical instruction and basic theology, all of a sudden, change?”
Of course not. What we have is the humanist secular being chosen over or made equal to the eternal (1).
For more than 2000 years, there has been Christian New Testament support for the death penalty, from Popes, Saints, Doctors and Fathers of the Church, church leadership, biblical scholars and theologians that, in breadth and depth, overwhelms any teachings to the contrary (1).
The additional problem is that the anti death penalty frauds are, now, blindly accepted, whereas in the past, they were fact checked and proven wrong (2).
These anti death penalty Christians are just putting many more innocents at risk (2).
1) Saint (& Pope) Pius V, “The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder.” “The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent” (1566).
Paramount obedience.
2) “All interpretations, contrary to the biblical support of capital punishment, are false. Interpreters ought to listen to the Bible’s own agenda, rather than to squeeze from it implications for their own agenda. As the ancient rabbis taught, “Do not seek to be more righteous than your Creator.” (Ecclesiastes Rabbah 7.33.). from Professor Lloyd R. Bailey’s book Capital Punishment: What the Bible Says, Abingdon Press, 1987.
3) From the newest Catholic Catechism
CCC 2260 The covenant between God and mankind is interwoven with reminders of God’s gift of human life and man’s murderous violence:
“For your lifeblood I will surely require a reckoning. . . . Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for God made man in his own image.This teaching remains necessary for all time.”
Necessary for all time.
. . . the source for which is the Noahic Covenant, Genesis 9:6, an eternal command, for all peoples and all times, which establishes the sacredness of life as the foundation for death penalty support.
Archbishop Charles Chaput: “Both Scripture and long Christian tradition acknowledge the legitimacy of capital punishment . . . ” “The Church cannot repudiate (the death penalty) without repudiating her own identity.” (3)
With regard to some Catholic anti death penalty statements, Catholic theologian Steven Long places the arrow:
” . . . (it) is symptomatic of a society that can garner more support to spare the guilty than to save the innocent.”
“The crowd still wants Barrabas.” (4).
Footnotes
1) The Death Penalty: Mercy, Expiation, Redemption & Salvation
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-death-penalty-mercy-expiation.html
New Testament Death Penalty Support Overwhelming
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2014/01/new-testament-death-penalty-support.html
Catholic Church: Problems with Her Newest Death Penalty Position:
The Catechism & Section 2267
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2015/03/catechism-death-penalty-problems.html
2) The Death Penalty: Fair and Just
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/12/is-death-peanalty-fairjust.html
The Death Penalty: Justice & Saving More Innocents
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-death-penalty-justice-saving-more.html
The Death Penalty: Saving Innocent Lives
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-death-penalty-do-innocents-matter.html
3) “Archbishop Chaput clarifies Church’s stance on death penalty”, CNA, Catholic News Agency, Oct 18, 2005. Chaput was then archbishop of Denver, now of Philadelphia
4) Four Catholic Journals Indulge in (anti death penalty) Doctrinal Solipsism, Steven Long, THOMISTICA, March 5, 2015
http://thomistica.net/commentary/2015/3/5/mutationist-views-of-doctrinal-development-and-the-death-penalty
“Did biblical instruction and basic theology, all of a sudden, change?”
YES it did. The NEW TESTAMENT.
God begat His Son Jesus because the old ways of the old testament did not work. When you worship Jesus and His way, you worship Life and Life Support.
Nothing is perfect. The problems in the world today are precipitated by those who profit from the problems. Choose your pain.
Did you miss the part of the bible where the government killed the literal son of god? Where as they brutally murdered him he said “Forgive them father for they know not what they do.”?
Man, it sucks when you’re trying to kill somebody and you run into a sinister cartel of pharmaceutical companies and stupid bureaucrats who stand in your way and make it impossible to get what you need, or allow you only one way where they charge you hundreds of thousands of dollars for something that ought to be just a few bills.
Fortunately, in the more common instance when people face these problems while trying to survive there is no ethical dilemma. To a man our culture accepts – most often eagerly, sometimes grudgingly, but always accepts – that these people are casualties of inevitability. Their deaths on the altar of Moloch Tlaloc are necessary for the sun and the stars to turn in their course. Our capitalist fundamentalist priests assure us, and most people believe, that their departing spirits rain down a blissful soft rain of capitalist accountability, self-sufficiency, hard work, and well-deserved luxury for the Makers who occupy the middle rank between ourselves and the Lord.
But of course, when the lack of a drug prevents a human sacrifice, people understand that this is a blasphemy, and something has to be done about it. But what? The Company cannot be mocked, and the laws of monopoly must never be weakened. And yet, with great prayer and contemplation, our capitalist priesthood devises a way. Merely purchase the drugs via loopholes, compounding pharmacies, unregulated transfers. This allows the necessary spilling of blood, and the sin of competition can be expiated by driving away the compounding pharmacies and wheeler-dealers one by one to Abaddon. Even as unregulated supply of death-drugs goes on, each case is a sting that can be used to punish the unregulated supplier – to portray the compounding pharmacies as shadowy and unethical, and further regulate aspects of drug supply. In this way the capitalist clergy proves that they are no less skillful at law than a rabbi marrying a mamzer or a priest of any other lesser faith.
It’s actually incredibly cheap to conduct a humane execution, you just need a plastic bag and a little nitrogen. There only problem is there isn’t enough suffering for Americans to feel satisfied by that method.
I’m serious.
Actually, they already have gas chambers – I think they still keep many of them intact out of wistful hope. Nitrogen makes more sense than cyanide (I mean, think of the bystanders if something goes wrong!). But nitrous oxide would be funnier. And it is ancient, ancient tradition, back to the days of Carthage, that sacrifices to Moloch should die laughing.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/luna-park-ghost-train-fire-mystery-of-the-satanic-figure/news-story/5e9b387a09d6db8055270d9b7f1b8e7e
Moloch likes fire.
My father did the dental identification on the burnt bodies. He was the forensic dentist for the state of New South Wales. He worked on many cases throughout his career, but this was the only case that stopped him from sleeping and made him cry. He said (though he fought the second world war against the Japanese) that this was pure evil that he could not explain as a scientist.
To be honest, to be it just seems like a young guy in a cow outfit. You can trace a connection with the Brazen Bull if you want, but I don’t know. The most Satanic object I know of is a batch of “tear gas” grenades made in France a bit more than 100 years ago with chloroacetone (maybe ethylbromoacetate). First the French tried using them to drive off German troops and touched off an escalation to the infamous gas attacks of World War I. Then they left the old munitions with their colonists in Indochina, and the now more liquid than gas innards of the grenades caused the atrocity of the Hue chemical attacks that led to the Vietnam War. And while I’ve been unable to find any confirmation, even in the Egyptian uprising of 2011, there were stories about super-potent ancient tear gas being pulled out, though I don’t think I’ve seen anything but pure speculation it was the French stuff… at this point I wouldn’t rule it out. Who knows what other wars they’ve had a role in causing? If you went out and could find one, it would be like holding a little Satanic Ark of the Covenant in your hands. God knows what you’d do with it, though.
I’m an American, but damn, we’re a pack of sadistic monsters, aren’t we?
slavery, invading a sovereign country, torturing some folks, murdering unarmed persons, slaughtering children, supporting genocide, droning innocent persons, poisoning water supplies… could be.
The whole monster thing covers America like a curse.
I suspect that America cannot be rebuilt because the monsters that run the economy do not want to put one thin dime into it because the fed monsters only depend on a majority of acceptance (willing or not) and prefer China.
Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders oppose the monster fed and wallstreet priorities.
Just seen; Bernie beats Donald beats Hillary. gonna be in’erestin’
……yes….
As long as there is a death penalty in the law, where does the stupidity stop that doesn’t notice Oxycontin is a very efficient killer? What’s the cultural problem here? Not enough suffering while dying?
What does it say about our culture and ethics that, everytime there is a discussion about capital punishment, commenters crawl out of the woodwork to suggest other/better ways to kill people?
Anyway, oxycodone is not an efficient killer. The LD50 in lab animals is in the range of 2000mg (2 grams) per kilogram of body weight. That suggests that about 5.5 ounces by weight would be fatal to 180-pound humans in about half of all attempts.
Mean and ignorant is not a good look.
Oh snide and snotty and definitely morally superior one, not only do you change the subject, you are factually inaccurate. I said Oxycontin, not oxycodone. People overdose and die all the time on a hell of a lot less than 5 ounces. Reacting to your own thoughts is at best helplessly dysfunctional.
“I said Oxycontin, not oxycodone.”
Dumb as a box of rocks and proud of it.
“Reacting to your own thoughts is at best helplessly dysfunctional.”
Is English not your first language?
Oh dear, you get pwned and then go make it so much worse.
Funny you mentioned that. because it’s true. Of course the sadists could use battery acid. Or, being as they’re the killing cult of christians, why not bring back “burn’em at the stake”? With the burn thing, 3 birds 1 match, the person dies (horribly), the evil spirits are vanquished, and they get to roast marshmallows sing dance and celebrate at the same time. Cruz and company oughta love that.
Firing squad, hanging, head-chopping, water boarding before drowning, do they really care, nah. And as long as US loves the torture thing, torture schools would pay for the convicted – there’s a bonus.
America, righteous and merciful? i dont think so.
correction
because it’s true?
my belief in that is reports of popular overdosing.
ie- Prince?
it sure seems true.
The recent rash of apparent opioid overdoses among long-time users is likely related to the bizarre and alarming adulteration of the counterfeit products found on the street. One of the adulterants, as hard to understand and believe as it may be, is fentanyl. You can look it up, but you can also trust me: accidental fentanyl overdose is a really easy way to die.
It’s really not that common for experienced users to kill themselves with high-quality semi-synthetic opioids, notwithstanding the hysteria being promoted by the drug warriors and trumpeted by the media.
Preventable in-hospital medical errors kill so many more people than opioid overdoses that it’s a sick joke that the nation is up in arms over the latter.
CDC estimates about 165,000 deaths due to prescription opioids between 1999 and 2014. And you should be aware that these numbers are based upon coroners’ reports and that coroners have a tendency to list drugs as a cause of death anytime they are found in a post-mortem tox screen.
In 2013, a well-researched and -documented study in theJournal of Patient Safety estimated deaths from preventable in-hospital errors at between 210,000 and more than 400,000 per year. The lower number would make iatrogenic causes third on the list of American killers, behind only cardiovasculalr disease and cancer.
A recent study by Johns Hopkins also found that in excess of 250,000 annual fatalities are caused by medical errors. (Link to follow, so this post actually appears.)
Medical Errors Now Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.: Study
Add those 200,000–400,000 preventable deaths to the estimated 100,000 deaths in hospitals through infections (most, but not all, of which were preventable), and you’ve racked up a pretty decent number.
Yup. If the higher number from the James study is added to the fatal iatrogenic infections number, it moves the “killed by modern medicine” total to second place, ahead of cancer and nipping at the heels of cardiovascular disease.
I happen to have a lot of friends who are docs and nurses. I’ve discovered that talking about this makes them uncomfortable. I say that’s a good thing.
As one who has worked in a large central sterilizing unit in a huge hospital, I’ve seen sources and avenues for infection that make your head swim. We’re lucky it’s only 100,000 deaths from infection yearly.
thanks! for correcting etc.
You’re welcome. I know the MSM stories are convincing, especially because the have the backing, at the moment, of the CDC. However, the reality is very different and the stories serve the standard Drug War narrative much more than they serve the truth.
Most opiates/opioids are quite safe, when of pure formulation, unadulterated and administered in known and controlled doses. A few, e.g., fentanyl, are not all that safe. ;^(
In our war on drugs, we have reached the point where the national witch hunt is denying effective relief to countless people suffering from intractable pain, in order to fight “the evil of addiction,” a very iffy evil, indeed. That, IMHO, is fundamentally immoral.
The clear and obvious evil is that of prohibition, which drives users underground and makes them criminals; drives up prices to the point that many are forced to resort to actual crime to afford the drugs; creates an economy in which unscrupulous, often incompetent amateurs control production and marketing in a quest for large, untaxed profits, etc.
And, just by the way, have you noticed that, as public attitudes and state and local laws regarding cannabis have undergone a sea change, in recent years, the hysteria over opioids has been cranked up to fever pitch? Hmmm?
interesting pack of lies. any anesthetic, that puts you to sleep or relieves pain can be used to kill
Sweet comment. I’ll bet you’re a real treat.
people die daily on the streets of drug overdoses – the pharmaceutical companies charge 100 to 10,000 times the actual costs because ?? to insure death ??
I can be a real fun guy – if you like TRUTH