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Last Thursday, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff was suspended from the presidency when the Senate voted, 55-22, to try her on the impeachment charges, approved by the lower house, involving alleged budgetary maneuvers (“pedaladas”) designed to obscure the size of public debt. Although she nominally remains the president and continues to reside in Brasília’s presidential palace, her duties are being carried out by her vice president, Michel Temer — now “interim” President Temer — and the right-wing, corruption-tainted, all-white-male cabinet he has assembled (due to Brazil’s coalition politics, Temer is from a different party than Rousseff). Rousseff’s suspension will last up to 180 days as her Senate impeachment trial takes place, at which point she will either be acquitted or (as is widely expected) convicted and permanently removed from her office.
On Tuesday, I spoke to President Rousseff in the presidential palace for her first interview since being suspended. The 22-minute interview, conducted in Portuguese with English subtitles, is below. Rather than subdued, resigned, and defeated, Rousseff — who was imprisoned and tortured for three years in the 1970s by the U.S.-supported military dictatorship that ruled the country for 21 years — is more combative, defiant, and resolute than ever.
Interim President Michel Temer waves with Sen. Aécio Neves, left, at a signing ceremony for new government ministers at the presidential palace in Brasília, May 12, 2016.
Photo: Igo Estrela/Getty Images
Worse, Temer created a worldwide controversy when he appointed 23 ministers, all of whom were white and male in a deeply diverse country, and one-third of whom are under suspicion in various corruption inquiries. And his government — beloved by hedge funds and Wall Street but very few other factions — has begun preparing the groundwork for a radical right-wing attack on the country’s social safety net, which could never attract the support of actual voters if it were subjected to a democratic framework. Meanwhile, as the Olympics arrive in Rio in 10 weeks, protests are breaking out all over the country and are certain to become more destabilizing and disruptive as the Temer government attempts to cut some of the most critical social programs established by Rousseff’s party (which has won four straight national elections).
I spoke with President Rousseff about all of these matters, as well as whether it is now justified for Brazilians to use civil disobedience against the government she describes as “illegitimate,” and the likely impact on international affairs and economic realignment from this extreme and undemocratic change of ideology in the world’s fifth most populous country and seventh largest economy. (Interim President Temer has not yet responded to The Intercept’s request for an interview.)
The interview can be watched on the recorder below. A full transcript appears below that.
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(This transcript has been lightly edited for continuity and clarity)
GLENN GREENWALD: I’m Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept and I’m here at the presidential palace, in Brasília, to speak with the Brazilian president, Dilma Rousseff, for her first interview since being suspended last week by the Senate, after it voted to try her on impeachment charges.
Good morning, madam president, and thank you for the interview.
DILMA ROUSSEFF: Good morning, Greenwald.
GG: The last stage of the impeachment proceedings takes place at the Supreme Court, which is constituted of 11 judges; eight of them were nominated by the Workers’ Party (PT), five of them by you. Would you say that the court and its decisions are legitimate?
DR: I do believe that the court’s decisions have been legitimate. I don’t think that the court will judge it; it’s not the Supreme Court that will judge the impeachment proceedings. In Brazil, impeachment proceedings are judged by the Senate. The session is conducted by the president of the court, Judge Lewandowski. I hope that his leadership makes the proceedings more consistent. … The final 55-22 Senate vote to suspend Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and launch an impeachment trial is pictured on a screen inside the Senate in Brasília on May 12, 2016. Photo: Evaristo Sa/AFP/Getty Images
GG: But if the Senate impeaches you, you could ask the Supreme Court to reject that decision and rule on whether there were indeed high crimes and misdemeanors. Also, the Supreme Court could have interrupted the process, but has not so far. Can a process being conducted under the authority of a legitimate court be considered a “coup”?
DR: Look, these are two completely different things. The proceedings, according to Brazilian law, are conducted by the Senate. I can appeal to the Supreme Court, and that will happen at the appropriate time for my defense. But, in the meantime, it will go through the court. It will be undertaken by the Senate. The Senate is the appropriate court. After that, I can debate whether the proceedings were carried out accurately, whether they were correctly accepted, whether we were given a fair trial, and whether there was any interference in the proceedings. We are appealing this.
We have not been granted an injunction, but the Senate is analyzing the request, which will be presented to the full Supreme Court. It has not been accepted by the judge. … He has not granted a suspension of proceedings. Now, they will have to deliberate.
GG: But will you have the opportunity to ask the Supreme Court to define whether there were high crimes? …
DR: The merits [of the impeachment charges]!
GG: After …
DR: Afterward. Brazilian Supreme Court President Gilmar Mendes on Nov. 18, 2009. Photo: Evaristo Sa/AFP/Getty Images
GG: On the day after the Senate voted, [Supreme Court] Justice Gilmar Mendes suspended the investigation of Aécio Neves, defeated by you in the last election. Many people saw that and thought, “The court is behaving like a political actor. The suspension paves the way to bury the Car Wash investigation.” Would you agree with that? What does this suspension mean?
DR: I think the suspension is strange; as far as I know, no proceedings have been suspended up until now. No Car Wash investigations have been suspended. But Justice Gilmar Mendes is not the only judge on the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is composed of 12 [sic] members. Not all of the 12 [sic] members have similar dispositions, that of a real militant, an obvious militant, as Judge Gilmar Mendes does. His actions will be judged over time by the Brazilian people.
GG: Do you think there’s a risk …
DR: We should not have double standards in our country. If you’re investigating one, you have to investigate them all. No one should be spared from the investigations.
GG: Do you think there’s a risk, after you leave office — if it comes to that — that Operation Car Wash will be swept under the carpet?
DR: That might be a threat, but I believe that there are many parties interested in the continuation of the Car Wash investigation.
So I don’t think that it will be simple to bury Operation Car Wash. I am more concerned about reverting back to the previous situation, in which the prosecutor general was not chosen from a list of three nominees, but was selected on the basis of their political alignment, which led to lots of inquiries being “filed away.” So much so that the prosecutor general of the republic became known as the “filing clerk of the republic.”
After President Lula took office — and I carried on the same practice — what procedure did we adopt? We generally chose the first name on the three-nominee list. Why? To give the Prosecutor’s Office more investigative autonomy and to stop the filing away of inquiries. I believe that there is a structure today — the Prosecutor’s Office, the Federal Police, and segments of the judiciary branch, like the Supreme Court and the Superior Court of Justice — that is willing to undertake investigations. Now, no institution is immune to the political process. They all suffer the consequences of the country’s political climate. Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff and Glenn Greenwald on May 17, 2016. Photo: Erick Dau/The Intercept
GG: Regarding the allegations against you: I know that other presidents, including Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and some governors also performed the budgetary maneuvers that you did, although perhaps not to the same extent as you, but they did use them. I know you insist that the budgetary maneuvers are not high crimes and misdemeanors that deserve an impeachment.
DR: They are not high crimes just as much as they are not crimes against the budget. They are not crimes.
GG: But would you agree that the Fiscal Responsibility Act prohibits them?
DR: No, because it is not prohibited by the Fiscal Responsibility Act. What is considered a budgetary maneuver? The appropriation bill authorizes the process known as complementary credits. And what does it say? It says that if you expect to collect a surplus in taxes from a specific initiative, the surplus can be re-invested. So let me ask you this: Where do these decrees come from? The Superior Electoral Court. The credit I authorized was requested by the Justice Department, by the court.
This is not a surplus from the general pot; it was an extra credit from individual headings, which is something extremely technical. Nothing was concealed. It crossed everyone’s desks. The court has always done that sort of analysis. Photo: Agencia Estado/AP
GG: I’d like to switch gears now. You were the first female president of Brazil, and your interim replacement, Michel Temer, revealed his cabinet of 23 ministers last week: not a single woman or black person and one-third are accused of corruption. How did you react when you saw his team?
DR: Look, I think that … it seems to me that this interim and illegitimate government will be very conservative from every aspect. One of which is the fact that it is a government of white men, without black people, in a country that, in the last census in 2010, and I think this is very important, more than 50 percent of the population self-identified as being of African origin. So, I think that not having any women or black people in the government shows a certain lack of care for the country you are governing.
GG: Would you say that we have arrived at the end of Brazilian democracy?
DR: No, I wouldn’t. Why wouldn’t I say that it’s the end of democracy? Because today, institutions can be disrupted, but they’re stronger than you think. I’m apprehensive now, because what happens under an illegitimate government? An illegitimate government tries to dress itself in the veil of pseudo-order; it bans protests and freedom of expression and, above all, shows an enormous willingness to cut social programs.
GG: OK. Since you classify this government as illegitimate, do you believe it’s correct for Brazilians to fight against this government with civil disobedience, as you did after the coup of ’64?
DR: I think they are completely different situations …
GG: I understand. But should Brazilians engage in civil disobedience to fight against this? I know the situations are different. But have we arrived at the point in which it is justified for Brazilians to fight against this government, which you’re classifying as illegitimate, with civil disobedience? Mug shot of Dilma Rousseff.
DR: I think that, in Brazil, we need to fight against it, protest it, and also exert some pressure on members of Congress. I think we need to urge all social movements to engage …
GG: And with Bolsa Família [social program for the poor] now …
DR: No, I’m just trying to give the example.
GG: But I want to ask only about …
DR: Because we need concrete battles — not a generalized civil disobedience. There will be some concrete struggles. People will have to organize in the most diverse ways. If you call protests civil disobedience, then I’d say, yes, civil disobedience. Now, it depends how you define it.
GG: OK, but many people are now going to the streets to protest in your defense, in defense of democracy, and they are very worried that they can be caught up in this anti-terrorism law that you approved just two months ago.
And when I interviewed ex-President Lula last month, he said he’s against this law, because it gives powers to the government that are unnecessary and dangerous and subject to abuse. Now that these powers are in the hands of another president, do you think it was a mistake to approve this law?
DR: No, I don’t think so. Do you know why? Because I vetoed all the items in the law that would make that sort of use possible. This law was approved in Congress; it is about the Olympic Games. It …
GG: That’s what it’s for, but it can be used …
DR: I know, but it doesn’t have the scope to be applied to social movements or political protests. Everything that was somewhat vague we vetoed. So, I’m sorry, I slightly disagree with President Lula on this matter. He would be completely right if it had been approved in the format sent by Congress. Photo: Rafael Fabres/Bloomberg/Getty Images
GG: The Temer government said that it would “focus” on Bolsa Família [social program] only for the poorest 5 percent. What impact would this have and how would the population react to that, in your opinion?
DR: Greenwald, I think people will not receive it well. Why? If you focus on only 5 percent in a country of 200 million people, 204 million, that would be 10 million people. Today, Bolsa Família reaches around 47 million people. We need to clarify what the target audience of Bolsa Família is. It’s not aimed at adults. It’s basically designed for children.
The programs require a key condition: Keep children in school, vaccinated and provided with medical care. With that, we reduced child mortality. With that, we brought children back to school. It’s not possible to create programs for the children without caring for their parents, families and mothers. And I think this clearly shows the regressive nature of conservatism.
GG: There’s an American journalist, based in Brazil for a long time, Alex Cuadros, who wrote an article in the Washington Post three weeks ago with this headline: “How the Workers’ Party Lost the Workers.” He pointed out that the Workers’ Party has transferred a significant amount of money to billionaires, to the richest, to large corporations, and at the same time, has imposed austerity measures on the poorest. Is it because of these policies that a large part of your party’s base has abandoned you?
DR: Well, firstly, I don’t think that my party’s base has abandoned me …
GG: But there are many supporters who now are not supporting you …
DR: Well, I have not observed this, quite the opposite, actually. I have seen a lot of support from my party’s base and from the progressive base in Brazil. One of the results of this process was a vast regrouping movement. See, let’s understand the scenario we currently live in. Brazil, as all other countries in the world, is now facing an economic crisis that started in 2014.
Obviously, when a crisis emerges, the growth rates begin to decline, rather than rise, and you lose the instruments needed to implement counter-cyclical policies. We implemented counter-cyclical policies: in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. In 2014, the fiscal capacity necessary for these counter-cyclical policies was depleted. Image: The Intercept
GG: I know, but during this period you helped many billionaires, many large corporations …
DR: I’d like it if you would explain to me where I helped billionaires and large corporations. Why? Because of the following: We did not adjust to the crisis by cutting social programs. We preserved Bolsa Família, we preserved the PROUNI and FIES [higher education funding programs], we preserved all of the policies for small-scale agriculture, the food acquisition program, all funding for this small farming, our policies for women, for communities founded by former slaves, for the indigenous — all of these things they are trying to take apart.
GG: You said earlier that Michel Temer is building a very conservative government, and also that he is a leader of this coup, or least involved in it. Also, two weeks ago, Eduardo Cunha was removed from the presidency of the lower house of Congress because of corruption. Why did you choose these two people as such close allies?
DR: Let’s be clear … I was even looking at this today. In Brazil, you have a process that, I believe, is perhaps one of the most distorted in the world. The number of parties is systematically increasing and every successive government needs more parties to form a simple majority and a two-thirds majority in Congress. To form a coalition you have to have a base of alliances. Larger coalitions cause decreased ideological alignment on policy. And you have to build very broad alliances. This is an extremely complex process. Beyond that, it has another feature. This coup has a leader. It was not the interim president.
GG: But he was involved.
DR: No. Wait. The leader is not the acting president. The leader is the president of the lower house of Congress [Eduardo Cunha], who is now removed from office. A little late, but better late than never, as I said. This leader, he represents a conservative sector, extremely conservative.
GG: But he was your ally for a long time, wasn’t he? A supporter of Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff with a sticker reading “Cunha out,” in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on Dec. 8, 2015. Photo: Yasuyoshi Chiba/AFP/Getty Images
DR: Hold on. He was my ally because he was with the centrist party ’99, built the majority with the governments. He is not part of … It’s a complex party; it’s not an ideological party. So, you have to understand the fact that inside this party one finds many different characteristics. He inexorably, was, quote-unquote, my “ally.” We began to have friction from the first day of my government, of my second government. During my first term, we had systematic friction with him. So this is an issue that is very important to be understood, because he will act … he works … under the cloak of darkness. He’s very good at acting in the dark.
GG: In your opinion, could the change of government and foreign policy damage Brazil’s relationship with the BRICS [association of emerging nations: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa] and Mercosul [multi-lateral Latin American trading group]?
DR: I hope they don’t do something this absurd to the country. I hope. I think that UNASUL, Mercosul, and the BRICS are some of Brazil’s greatest accomplishments. To assume that it’s possible for a country of Brazil’s dimension not to have a close relationship with the countries of UNASUL, Mercosul, and the great achievement of multilateralism that is the BRICS, would be reckless. It is reckless. I think it would be, at the very least, greatly ignorant. It would reflect a huge ignorance of international affairs.
GG: You’ve said many times that you will fight until the end against the impeachment proceedings, but if you do end up losing and have to leave office, what would be better: that Michel Temer stays in office without the approval of voters or holding new elections?
DR: Please forgive me for not answering that question.
GG: Because you’re still fighting.
DR: Because I’ll fight until the end.
GG: I understand.
DR: Don’t ask me … Because you’ll understand that if I asked myself that question, I’d be giving up.
GG: You are known to be a very strong woman and have mentioned many times that there’s no comparison between what you went through in the past and what is happening now, but the crisis has been very harsh on the country, and on you as well. Is this affecting you and your family?
DR: Look, I think it does affect us, it affects you personally, I even mentioned that the other day. On the day I lost the status of acting president — I’m still the incumbent president of Brazil, and the legitimate one. I think it affects me in this sense: because it’s unjust. Maybe the hardest thing for someone to withstand, besides pain, illness, and torture, is injustice. Why? Because you feel like you’re trapped.
Of course, after a while they said that I was a person — a woman — I think they assumed that I would simply resign. Why did they want me to resign? Because my presence unsettles them. Because I don’t have foreign accounts. They totally took apart my affairs: I have never received a bribe. I refuse to consent to corruption. One of the reasons why they say I’m tough is because it’s very difficult to approach me and propose anything illicit.
The injustice of this situation, the political injustice of this, the personal injustice, it affects me, it affects my family, and it affects all of us. The other day I said I was a victim, not a sacrificial victim, but a victim of injustice. I am a victim of injustice.
GG: Madam president, thank you very much for the interview.
DR: Thank you.
Miami – FL / U.S.A
May 25th , 2016
The hidden colors of a true story, and to why the U.S National Security Agency was on the stanby survillance mode.
On July 15th, 2013 a North Korean flagged cargo ship under to a code sign “Chon Chon Gang” leading from from Rusev’s Mariel Port in Havana, Cuba was physically subjected to seizure in Panama’s canal along with the U.S Army assistence, causing a major confiscation of Brazil / Cuban military equipment hidden in an undeclared cargo founded aboard.
While 33 of 35 Korean crew members were charged and arrested by the United States Officials, among military weapons trafficking, two Mig -21 aircraft in perfect condition and ready to fly, along with 240 metric tons of illegal Brazilian / Cuban military weapons originated from Rusev’s Mariel Port.
A massive 15 military jet engines, live munitions, radar, control system for grounded missiles hidden under to 10.000 tons of Cuban sugar.
After the U.S Army and Panama’s officials seizure of all smuggled military weapons, Cuban Officials alleged the cargo was to be sent out to North Korea, to be repaired and returned, while the North Korean officials have asked for the crew to be released, but didn’t make any comments on the illegal weapons smuggling.
The 33 North Korean criminal crew remains until today’s date in Federal Prison in the U.S territory, while Brazil, Cuba and North Korea had being criminally fine each for a massive $ 700.000,00 U.S dollars amidst an internation weapons smuggling charges.
I guess the USA will just repackage all for Vietnam.Or our terrorists in the ME.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
For a common Latin America’s socialist imbecile’s to the core such as yourself, you’re mostly certainly incapable, and even unable to repackage your own existent certified ineptitude towards to your lovely mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who has criminally ceased a massive 448 kilograms of dynamite from the Brazilian Army headquarters on and or after March 31st, 1964.
Excellent interview, and it wasn’t about serving up softballs either.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 24th, 2016
No doub it, Brazil’s Petrobras (PBR), ongoing multi-billion dollars corruption scheme, and it’s own criminal staging couldn’t possible have worked so widely unnoticed, and so aggressively spread for so many years without the physical existence of Rusev’s previously appointed members from 2005’s monthly allowance probe, who have by all means composed a corrupted to its center’s core Federal government as a main body in Brazil’s history.
A legit shield to serve and protect it the utmost legit dismembered nine fingers arrogant imbecile in Brazil’s history, and or Rusev’s predecessor, commonly known as Lula 51, who have indeed fathered the biggest corruption probe since mid 2003’s, under to an Italian mafia, led by Mario Covino, Flavio Ricotti, Richard Morlok and Thomas Farwell, (indicted by the U.S Department of Justice in 2005), along with their own main head treasurer commonly known as John Vaccari, who has been arrested and charged by local federal officials since early 2015’s, amidst a massive $ 800 million dollars in contracts manipulation and bribes from PBR and funneled throughout Rusev’s workers’ communist coalition, included a massive $ 23 billion dollars in stock market manipulation at nasdaq located in New York.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 24th, 2016
Dilma Vana Rusev is indeed a legit mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute, who was physically trained at Cuba’s Jungle under of the utmost repressive, depressive and undemocratic dictatorship regime ever in Latin America’s history.
By my count, 22 posts removed of the vulgarian calling himself a chef. I relish freedom of speech but not defacating on people. Somehow someway it is IMO important for others to witness the brutality of certifiable crazies who operate in the right wing arena because those who are lured and deceived need to also see their company.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 24th, 2016
You truly meant to said that nothing will erases your visible heavy load of stupidity, ignorance and completely ineptitude showed in written words, generated by the utmost corned imbeciles’ in Latin America’s in today’s world (included yourself), who has clearly exchange it a real state of democracy for a mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev.
Moreover, anyone has indeed the physical ability to erases a simple unwanted message, so the hidden colors of a true past story won’t make you and all the criminals in Brazil’s territory as a bad psycopaths, who has fully paid an associate press dish-rag such as this bribed-off imbecile, also known as Gleen Greenwald with a fat check in order to keep your ” presumptive relished censorship” completely safe in a pandoras’ box.
Now, if you really want to impress me, shown me that you have the tools and the acknowledgement to erase your own past history, and or just keep your communist, socialist mouth shut it.
Are you the author of “Springtime for Hitler”,the basis of the Producers?
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
Are you by any chance an official sponsor of Brazil’s best seller in the 21st century well known as “How to be an Idiot in 10 singles steps”, written by your auto-called phylosopher named as Olavo Caralho ?
Glenn, I just wanted to thank you for this magnificent and historical interview. As a politically left-winged oriented person, is always important to me to witness those who I think represent me giving answers to straight and forward questions such those you did. Apart from her lack of truthfulness through the speech and the inability in convincing people whilst she talks, you can diagnose some things from what she speaks. Thank you for this lesson of journalist, done in such a honest manner with direct questions which were asked pretty much everything we wanted to hear from her.
Keep those efforts up, Glenn. As we say in Brazil, ‘it’s necessary to someone come from out of Brazil to show us how to do things properly’ – journalism in your case.
A big thanks from a Brazilian living abroad in Australia.
I know from your tweets you’re busy today with the latest in Brazil, Glenn, but I wanted to suggest if you haven’t yet – to watch this Weekend Update clip from Saturday Night Live when you’re able. I hulu-watched the show yesterday during dinner, and while this bit was largely just poking fun at President Rousseff – I also realized how much the Colin Jost questions to “Dilma” seemed staged in ways to mimic this interview. It’s as if one of main stream media’s comedy hallmarks at the same time acknowledged the popularity of your journalism while somehow still ignoring you personally. Anyway, for what it’s worth:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-dilma-weekend-update-dilma-rousseff-on-her-impeachment/3039815
Glen, é preciso juntar às denúncias já feitas contra o golpe a conversa entre Romero Jucá e Sérgio Machado! O pseudo governo está no chão! É preciso denunciar as provas do conluio midiático-político-oligárquico para todo o mundo!
Glenn imaghttp://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/05/1774018-em-dialogos-gravados-juca-fala-em-pacto-para-deter-avanco-da-lava-jato.shtml !!!!! A destitução de Dilma e’ GOLPE a DEMOCRACIA .para favorecer os CORRUPTOS da ELITE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dilma NAÔ PODE SER INJUSTIÇADA !!!
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/05/1774018-em-dialogos-gravados-juca-fala-em-pacto-para-deter-avanco-da-lava-jato.shtml Eu coloque acima este Link e não saio !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxeNJh8K-MU Brazil’s Acting President Gave Sensitive Briefings to US
Revelations of NSA involvement…
Dilma in the Inland Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgAZyZBNJ-A
Watch this video of Dilma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgAZyZBNJ-A
How about a
Little editing the `comments´. Chef mueller can/should be able to air his opinion (and insults) in 150words or less,and max. 3 original contributions. Or is it his intention disabuse commentary – in this case, he should find another forum.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
Rumors huh ?
As matter of fact, I haven’t insulted you yet, but I must admit it to myself that I have indeed described you physically !
american right wing criminals affiliated with the corrupt Tener – Cunha party attempted propaganda campaign in US fails
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/19/watch-first-interview-with-brazils-president-dilma-rousseff-since-the-senates-impeachment-vote/?comments=1#comment-232422
Unfortunate to see a management that bankrupted the Brazil tarnish the image of a nation that simply tired of seeing her transform the country into a communist Bolivarian populist country. More than 200 billion of debt in addition to fail the largest Brazilian company with scandalous assaults. Who complains about the impediment this lady has vested interests and benefit of taxpayer money on self-interest. It is a supporter of Hugo Chaves, Nicolas mature, Fidel and Evo Morales, who run poor countries and managed by corruption and communist populism that generates delay in a nation. Come to Brazil and discover the truth about this lady, how she is deceitful and pernicious to Brazil. He was elected with lies and cover up mismanagement.
Brazil has been a target of the USA since they nationalized their oil,and stopped US from profiting at Brazils expense.The price cut by OPEC has hurt Venezuela and Brazil enormously,as they budgeted on stable prices.
America is trillions in debt,so the debt is not an insumountable issue,but austerity and the end of state funding to relieve poverty will make the nation even worse off.Temer just announced such,as the Lying times says.The 2% approval president crook.Wow.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
In fact, you’re just another typical Latin America’s socialist dulled dish-rag, who truly uses your own illiteracy, stupidity, ignorance and arrogance as form of defense mechanism.
You have been led by a legit mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who was indeed physically trained at Cuba’s Jungle under of the utmost repressive, depressive and undemocratic dictatorship regime ever in Latin America’s history.
Go back to the nearest school as soon as possible, because you are clearly lacking in education and ability to comprehend your own past and present history.
In fact, you’re an idiot.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
Is that it ?
In fact, for a typical Latin America’s socialist and certified virtual imbecile such as yourself, who has a single piece of a broken socialist mirror, its better to remain swimming at Rio’s biggest outdoor septic-toilet ever built on earth’s surface, among a massive 4 tons of raw sewage and urine fluids, than open your unschooled mouth and remove all doubts.
Thank you for this insightful interview. Wonderful journalism.
“The Supreme Court is composed of 12 [sic] members. Not all of the 12 [sic] members have similar dispositions, that of a real militant, an obvious militant, as Judge Gilmar Mendes does.” This is what President Dilma said about the number of judges at the Supreme Court. Wrong…the number is 11, as pointed out by the author in the very beginning of the interview. It is not a minor mistake and shows her paranoid erratic reasoning. As announced by several local press outlets she is under heavy and strong medication.
Why do you seem to be so fearful of Dilma? Let me guess. The right wing pigs have done so much wrong to the population that unless she is rendered worthless, hurting her may cause a popular uprise that will result in right winger pigs shooting protesters and then we have another syrias situation?
You can always spot right wingers, they are the ones that have the sociopathic urge to make others beg for food, shelter and comfort and who seek to own such life support to make that happen.
You can also always spot a unique breed of left wingers a.k.a. free-loaders, who have this parasitic morale of leeching society in the name of equality. They are known for have failed their kindergarten homework of understanding the fable of “the ant and the grasshopper”, a late 18th century tale of nowadays adage “There is no such thing as a free lunch”. They say they despise capitalism, but their greed towards others people’s money has no boundaries – they want to impose highest inheritance and fortune taxes, a.k.a. the envy tax, in the name of “social justice and reducing wealth inequality” (read: my “fair” share of the fruits of your labor).
“I have never understood why it is “greed” to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else’s money.”
Thomas Sowell
you dont know what capitalism is. But you seem to know a lot about deprivation as a tool of ownership.
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May 12 2016, 4:00 p.m.
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/11/brazils-democracy-to-suffer-grievous-blow-today-as-unelectable-corrupt-neoliberal-is-installed
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3.
Communism is a form of ownership, not operations which can be bid and incentivised.
Capitalism is an incentive system.
Socialism is service for enabling people’s rights by using resources to share.
ACTUALLY, all 3 together would be the best system for the planet.
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Sorry, my bad. I didn’t learn the first time you enlighted us. I may still be stuck in the dark ages…
Some who are trapped in that era with me insist that what you told us are a completely bs nonsense, since their premises are completely opposed from the very beginning. Trying run a mix with the 3 together would be like having an immiscible solution of oil and water.
But what do they know, right?
Fortunately we have smart people like you to do the trick.
China is just such a mix of ideology that it is the wonder of the modern world.
CapCom.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
You must be all means Rusev’s newest version of a socialist nigger, who lives on a 2nd store outdoor teepee with a unique physical ability to orally spits throughout your monkey’s mouth a massive 99.999916% percent live sperms.
@Chef Mueller
Well, if we had any doubts about your full-fledged commitment to dictatorship, torture and extrajudicial killings, you’ve laid them to rest for all time with that post.
Here’s the guy Chef Mueller singles out for praise:
Colonel Brilhante Ustra: Feared army intelligence chief accused over Brazil human rights abuses
You can see the look of cowardice and fear and evil in his eyes and expression – and appears he stayed drunk most of the time. He has the look of a pig. The pos died, too bad. I want to know who paid him, the food chain.
It appears one of his henchies may be posting on this board who actually carried out crimes against humanity and is having a really hard time being proud of what he did.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 24th, 2016
My written remarks goes out in Tribute to the Brazilian Army Forces, man and woman in uniform, who simplify the words, honor, courage and commitment, who fought it terrorism and communism on and or after March 31st, 1964.
As well towards to the U.S Army BSM-AM Major Charles Rodney Chandler, who was executed by Dilma Vana Rusev urban guerrilla leader at point 45 machine gun, while in his own car in Sao Paolo’s area on on past October 12th, 1968.
As well towards to the 18 years old, Brazilian Army SD Mario Kozel’s Fillo, who was also executed by Dilma Vana Rusev urban guerrilla amidst a 50 kilograms of dynamite on past June 26th, 1968.
My greatest regards and gratitude towards to the Brazilian Army, Cel Brilliant Ustra, who fought terrorism, communism and as well Dilma Vana Rusev’s urban guerrilla criminals in Brazil’s territory.
The true hidden colors of a mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute, who never fought it for democracy, but indeed for communism in Brazil’s territory.
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A true hidden story.
Before dawn of June 26th, 1968 militant terrorists of a revolutionary popular vanguarf, under to an acronym V.P.R led by Dilma Vana Rusev, had already physically damaged the 2nd Brazilian Army Headquarter’s, where a previous attack occurred and ended with two wounded military personal.
On June 26th, 1968 terrorism event was by far Rusev’s worsen yet to come, when she’s had sent straight in a station wagon carrying a massive 50 kilograms of dynamite, crashing straight to the Brazilian Army compound’s main entry gate, resulting in the instantly death of a 18 years old soldier, who was physically stationed at the gate, commonly recognized worldwide as Mario koel Fillo, among five others with a sustained injuries.
At the time, more than 5.000 local residents were at Kozel’s funeral services.
Moreover, Dilma Vana Rusev was followed by theft, blood linked to her own urban guerrilla, who have achieve a massive of 448 kilograms of stolen dynamite from various military compounds.
Dilma Vana Rusev, along with her own criminal ex-husband used to frequently assaulted and robbed at gun point local financial institutions for a quick cash achievement.
Dilma Vana Rusev have also hijacked a commercial aircraft in Sao Paolo’s Airport carrying a 98 people on board on a converted fly straight to Cuba.
Dilma Vana Rusev remains until today’s date a legit D.N.A’s communist, who truly symphatizes with any terrorist, communist and socialist countries wordwide.
Dilma Vana Rusev have in past fought against to the Brazilian Army with a unique purpose, in which were to imposed her own version of proletariat socialism, taken as criminal mentors, Che Guevara and Mario Marighella.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 24th, 2016
In fact, you’re just a typical Latin America’s communist cheeky little bastard, who clearly uses your limited Google’s translation tool to achieved your “well written” presumptive “relished ignorance” as form of defense mechanism.
While certified stupid motherfuckers just like you indeed addresses your own military personnel as “dictators” in an exclusively attempt it to covered a mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute for being seen in the eyes of today’s world as a bad psycopath liar and corrupted to its center’s core.
In fact, criminals scums such as yourself are mostly likely to thanks someone just like this fucking proletariat socialist whore, and or Dilma Vana Rusev, who have in past stolen a massive 448 kilograms of dynamite, than thanks a single person in the uniform.
I must admit, you’re indeed just a dulled piece of shit on earth’s surface, who remains stealing our precious oxygen for a living.
“novo” na Petrobras o atual Presidente , ja’ estive na epoca do Gov de FHC onde a CORRUPÇÂO DENUNCIADA por Paolo Francis não era “institucionalizada e NADA FOI INVE$TIGADO!!!!!! Brasil -Gov asaltado por CORRUPTOS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dyh6-YSXBs
Enojado pela reportagem totalmente fluenciável.
Jornal e jornalistas devem ser imparciais em suas opiniões.
Me parece um jornal e seus subordinados passos pelo PT.
Passar a imagem de vítima de uma pessoa sem capacidades e que só ajudou a piorar a situação de um país… LAMENTÁVEL!
Dear Glenn.
Thank you very much to give her a chance to show her view about this scandalous coup d’état here in Brazil. As you know the majority of Brazilians citizens doesn’t speak English and isn’t able to leave comments here. Unfortunately we are facing old fashioned mentalities that have tried to get the power in an illegitimate way . Most of them are trying change the image of Brazil right now. But it is clear noticing who has the truth only taking attention on the words used by they during their comments. On the other hand, observing the level of whom has protesting against the coup: Scientist, Artists, Writers, Philosophers in general we can realize what is happening in our society: a new war against the weak orchestrate by old elites.
Glenn Greenwald knocks it out of the park again. He defines fairness in his reporting and writing.
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
Perhaps, if you leave your visible cynicism aside for a moment, and really be up to impress us abroad, why aren’t you use it Rusev’s socialist state of art Olympics Torch and fully upgraded to its maximum capacity to carry out an infused fuel with a single canned citronella oil to scare-off Zika’s mosquitoes outbreak.
Congratulations!!! In my understanding, you have made the best interview with Madam Rousseff after the Senate suspend her from office. You asked very intelligent questions and information and took photos, specially showing that she is still living at the official palace. It became obvious by their replies that she embarked in a conspiratorial theory about her process of suspension. Now she tries to sell her conspiratorial theory to everybody in the world. What is a shame and a very infantile behavior. I’m sure that anybody, specially good journalists never ever have seen a President living in such conditions just after a ‘coup’, that still is to be decided by a judgment in the Senate to be chaired by the head of the Supreme Court. Fantastic. Well done.
When you asked her about the “pedaladas”, she talked about the supplementary credit decretes. Which is the other illegal act she is accused of.
And you never corrected her. Good job as a journalist!
The whole interview was biased by your own beliefs.
Never put her on the spot, never asked tough questions. This is one of the most corrupt governments in the world. Alies to Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.
She was a communist when she was young.
Ridiculous, uninformed and very suspicious.
May I remind the viewers that this government is famous for buying left wind journalists.
Pirates and thieves and wannabe genocidal maniacs cannot tolerate public ownership and entitlements of life support for all people. Right wing psychomaniacs always looking to KILL TO CONQUER everything, have it all, own it all. Otherwise know as pigs.
In the USA, a frame-up (frameup) or setup is the act of framing someone, that is, providing false evidence or false testimony in order to falsely prove someone guilty of a crime. Sometimes, the person who is framing someone else is the actual perpetrator of the crime.
Frame – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FrameupWikipedia
Yes. 11 million workers who willingly stopped working are framing up dilma
Also, millions who rose from poverty line, sunk back into poverty to frame dilma
High ranked PT affiliates assaulted national companies and treasure to frame dilma and PT.
The (so far) honest politicians of PT are fleeing from PT to frame them evem further.
Our currency, the real, devaluated itself against dollar, euro, just to frame Dilma.
The industrials are always complaining about the taxes and regulations in Brazil, just to frame Dilma.
The population were on the streets to complain about PT corruption, were plotting against Dilma.
When the TCU Ministers (Account Court Justices) appointed the problem, it was nothing but an attempt to frame Dilma up.
When 3 citizens (one a former PT founder) filed an impeachment trial on the congress, they were doing nothing but framing Dilma up.
When the Congress voted to process the impeachment, following the constitution, they were trying to frame her up. BTW, back in 1988 when they wrote the constitution, making possible to impeach a president, they had dilma in mind, to frame her. so did they back in 1950, when the current impeachment law was aproved.
When the federal judge Moro is convicting contractors CEO’s that bribed up government officials with dirty money from Petrobras, he’s doing so he can frameup Dilma.
I could go on but i think you all got it. there is an universal conspiracy to hurt the honor of this honest woman and honest party.
Well said.
Dilma hit on an important aspect of the problem of Brazilian politics when she pointed to the mushrooming of political parties. Add to that the party-switching so common, and you are at the root of the political problem: The political structure is built on “caciquismo”, on personal relations, not on any common ideological base – with the possible exception of PT. Fernando Henrique tried to tackle this but didn’t get very far. The little that was achieved was undone by the Supreme Court, and changing the Constitution requires a 3/5 majority – which in general isn’t a bad idea because otherwise in Brazil, the constitution would be permanently changed.
The government of Fernando Henrique went astray in the very same way as did the PT – originally, his party, the PSDB was a left excision of the amorphous PMDB Dilma did allude to, too. The political necessity of alliances kills off any attempt at getting things done in a straight forward way. I remember very well that back in 1995/1996 I warned my friends from the PT that they would get into corruption problems of their own.
Unfortunately, the Brazilian society acts in curious ways: When confronted with the question of parlamentarism or the presidential system, the large majority voted for the latter. But then they want to have it the parlamentarian way, and think it is o.k. to get rid of a president because her polls are low, and the means aren’t that important.
Furthermore, distrusting their own inclinations, Brazilians opt for effusively formal and often unenforcable legislation which practically asks for bending the rules, and once you are at it … To give an example I am quite familiar with: The Brazilian constitution is extremely generous in ascribing traditional lands to her indigenous peoples. Taken at the letter of the law, practically all of the Amazone region should be reserved to them, because traditional lands also include those who are vital for their ecological protection, and what part of the Amazone basin would not? Everybody knows that the reality is risibly inadequate, and even the indigenous people themselves know that they better settle for areas that are manageable, i.e. controllable. In most cases, they can’t even get that. But changing the letter of the law would put them back in even more disadvantage, and thus in a best case scenario you settle for some solution clearly outside the law. That such a system invites corruption, seems self-evident to me.
I am not sure whether Dilma with the pedaladas broke the law but it wouldn’t surprise me if she did. It is in this context that I think the whole process – while fulfilling legal requirements – loses legitimacy. (And a perfect example of “Para os meus amigos tudo, para os meus inimigos a lei”)
It takes quite an enormous effort to fix the problem but – cynically – I hope that the disillusionment of those who today support the impeachment will so rapidly come about that political expediency will motivate a lot of politicians to switch sides back. Furthermore, the prosecutors who act with such fervor against PT today won’t let the “fisiologistas” in the now ruling parties off the hook – despite the one incident with Aécio Neves. There is a very good chance that Michel Temer won’t see the end of his provisional time, and who then?
As one who lived in Brazil for many years and still spends extensive time there each year, as well as having a large network of Brazilian friends (many of whom hold PhDs) in a variety of professions, as well as relatives who still live there, I have followed this controversy closely. I was in Brazil when wire tapped phone conversations between Dilma and ex-president Lula were released to the public. I am quite fluent in Portuguese and was able to follow the discussions easily. The notion that she is not directly involved in corruption and lawbreaking is just laughable. The tapes don’t lie. Dilma was clearly obstructing the investigation against Lula, who is certainly guilty of numerous crimes of corruption (just look at the huge personal fortune he amassed while in office).
This article is so full of bias and outright lies, it doth boggle the mind. The author conveniently fails to mention that the reason Dilma was imprisoned and interrogated in the 1970 was that she was directly involved in acts of terrorism as a radical communist whose group intended to provoke a violent revolution. This is not speculation, but rather well documented fact. Her and Lula’s communist sympathies were clear when such luminaries as Hugo Chavez sat on the platform at Lula’s first inauguration. Indeed, one of the first acts of the new president was to cut of the massive amounts of money being funneled to prop up the Castro regime in Cuba, never mind that the Dilma’s Workers Party has run the economy into the toilet.
Speaking of the economy, when I arrived in Brazil to live in 1995, the internet was practically non-functional. The only telephome service available in Rio was dial-up, which was problematic as the ancient phone equipment literally could not carry the signal. At that time, it took up to ten minutes of waiting to just get a dial tone. However, with the advent of president Cardoso, socialist policies were dismantled as much as possible, the phone system was privatized and the result was an influx of capital the soon brought much of Brazil’s infrastructure into the first world. This included major highways connecting the cities.
Indeed, the Cardoso government’s neo-liberal economic policies created unprecedented prosperity in Brazil and lifted millions out of poverty. By the time I moved to São Paulo there were so many Brazilians now able to purchase cars that the already congested streets were becoming much worse. The infrastructure just could not keep up with the economic growth. Indeed, in a decade I personally witnessed much of Brazil become a different country, on many levels.
It was on this wave of prosperity that Lula was elected and the Marxists took power. They immediately implemented social programs designed to buy off those who remained poor (and to keep them there as well), while slowly dismantling the economic reforms that had brought prosperity.
The inevitable economic collapse was delayed by the discovery of new oil reserves, but the PT (Worker’s Paryt) figured out how to destroy that as well. A price fixing scheme (known as the Lava Jato) was developed to inflate the costs of constructing new refineries, etc. for Petrobras, the state run petroleum company. The illegal profits were kicked back to oil and construction executives, as well as politicians. This included funneling money to finance Dilma’s presidential campaign. Lula was up to his neck in this and Dilma was prepared to appoint him to her cabinet to give him immunity from his immanent arrest, when the prosecution leaked the wiretap conversations.
The public was already hitting the streets in protest, but I have never, ever, seen such outrage as that of the Brazilian people as this unfolded. Indeed, to state that the impeachment is a coup is the most brazen lie imaginable. Not only is there solid legal ground for it, the Brazilian people are demanding it in massive and overwhelming majorities. They are in the streets with pitchforks and torches, so to speak (unfortunately they have no 2nd Amendment), and the PT government has no hope of support from a military already decimated by leftist policies.
In sum, the amount of money in the corruption scandals surrounding the current and former president are higher, by orders of magnitude, than any other in the history of Latin America; in the neighborhood of a billion U.S. dollars.
The results of 13 years of PT rule have utterly destroyed the economy, showing clearly that the great prosperity of the first half of the 2000’s was a hold-over from the previous administration. Though the PT claimed credit for this prosperity, in true Marxist fashion the economic collapse and the crimes of corruption are the result of conspiracies fomented by their right-wing enemies. Forget about the massive unemployment and inflation that has arrived on their watch. It’s those nasty capitalists who are responsible. The Marxist PT is never to blame for anything and stands ready to rewrite history at all times to avoid accountability for the crimes and errors of its leaders.
The fact is, the governments of Lula and Dilma (who was handpicked by Lula) will go down as the most corrupt in the history of Latin America, and believe me, that is a distinction that one would have to work hard to achieve. But as all communist authoritarians, their incompetence is only surpassed by their arrogance and sense of entitlement. The public money belongs to the Party in the mind of a good communist, so why not skim off the top to insure re-election as well as personal comfort? Surely the peons and rubes won’t mind, so long as we keep giving them their monthly free rations of the minimal food to keep them alive and voting.
Well, the peons and rubes are finding out just what the Marxists, Lula and Dilma REALLY think of the proletariat, and they are furious. The Brazilian congress can see full well that if they don’t impeach Dilma, it’s likely that the citizenry will burn Brasilia to the ground. As an American who loves Brazil, I sincerely hope that it won’t come to that. But, as I said, I’ve never seen a populace this enraged. Dilma, Lula, and the PT are so despised by the public that it is literally dangerous for a PT supporter to reveal himself in public. Numerous beatings have taken place by outraged citizens. And the police are not inclined to intercede to stop it.
In the face of this reality, Dilma’s delusional statements are every bit as valid as an alcoholic’s who is deep in denial. She needs to come to grips with the fact that the most popular new social movement in Brazil calls itself “Tchau Querida” (see ya later, dear). This deliberately sarcastic meme is a good reflection of just how deep the disdain for Dilma and Lula is, at practically all levels of Brazilian society. Mr. Greenwald is clearly completely fooled and incompetent, or more likely, complicit in attempting to cover up a scandal that makes Watergate look like kindergarten.
So why is there “no” outrage for Temer? And all the rest that are inclusively corrupt? If they’re gonna get their pitchforks…then maybe Temer should step down. And all the rest. It is merely impossible to keep out Wall St gangsters who are conveniently contracted with the USG and are conveniently holding their crystal balls that directly connect to Israel. And how convenient they are aligning their far right agendas there…and so it will be here. The panic to monopolize all of the Americas oil and big corporate business because there is absolutely 0 value to the dollar compared to China’s gold backed Yuan. Face value of what is going on goes much deeper and I don’t need a phd to see it. sorry.
Sheesh, you couldn’t make this shit up (but you do):
Which “acts of terrorism” do you mean? The Vanguarda Armada Revolucionária Palmares expropriation of the safe full of ill-gotten gains from the mistress of the corrupt thief who had been governor of Sao Paolo? Dilma says she had nothing to do with it and so did Carlos Minc and other VAR members who actually did participate in the “robbery.” But I’m sure you can share with us the transcript of a fair trial that demonstrates otherwise.
Oooh! That’s bad, right?
Oops. Failed to close a tag:
. . . against a brutal military government that took power in a coup, suppressed all opposition, banished free speech, engaged in arbitrary arrest, torture (including punitive rape and castration), etc. — all under the guidance and with the blessings of the US government.
It was certainly a terrible thing to resist that with violence or force of arms, wasn’t it? (Well, actually, no: it was heroic.)
New York – NY / U.S.A
May 25th, 2016
You must be Rusev’s newest virtual militant, who has just stepped out from a local welfare’s office in Brazil’s territory, carried out a fat monthly check, among other 47 million useless imbeciles just like you, who has a unique custom made crystal clear ball connected to a monkeys’ teepee in order to reach its greatest 4G LTE signal capability, and to achieved your primarily target, and well deserved golden hypocrisy trophy.
Ah, se tivéssemos uma 2nd amendment…
belo texto. melhor descrição impossível..
The author[xram] conveniently fails to mention that the reason Dilma was imprisoned [in the early 1970’s] andinterrogated[tortured as she was suspended upside-down and naked from the pau de array (“parrot’s perch” – designed to inflict severe joint and muscle pain with wrists and ankles bound) while electric shocks were applied] was that she wasdirectly involved in acts of terrorism[convicted of subversion following a trial in which she maintained her innocence but was not allowed access to an attorney. Beginning in her late teens, Dilma w]as a[n]radical communist[opponent of the military dictatorship that overthrew the government in a 1964 coup and then murdered hundreds and tortured thousands: see Torture in Brazil: A Shocking Report on the Pervasive Use of Torture by Brazilian Military Governments, 1964-1979, Secretly Prepared by the Archiodese of São Paulo. This is not speculation, but rather well documented fact.Her and Lula’s
communistsympathies [for the people and the poor, and not just privileged elites] were clear when such luminaries as Hugo Chavez [also popularly elected, and also overthrown, though only briefly, by a coup] sat on the platform at Lula’s first inauguration [following a free and fair election. In fact, all three became heads-of-state through democracy]. . .Indeed, [Lula’s departure from] the Cardoso government’s neoliberal economic policies created unprecedented prosperity in Brazil[: under Lula, poverty was reduced by over 55 percent, from 35.8 percent of the population to 15.9 percent in 2012. Extreme poverty was reduced by 65 percent, from 15.2 percent to 5.3 percent over the same time period. Over 31.5 million Brazilians were lifted out of poverty and, of that number, over 16 million out of extreme poverty. There were also large changes in how the gains from economic growth were distributed, as compared with the prior decade. For example, the top 10 percent of households received more than half of all income gains between 1993-2002, but this fell to about one-third for 2003-2012. The biggest gainers were the 40 percent below the median: they nearly doubled their share of income gains from 11.3 to 21.1 percent. see The Brazilian Economy in Transition: Macroeconomic Policy, Labor and Inequality, 2014, by the Center for Economic and Policy Research
I’m sure they made some mistakes and that there is a lot of corruption. However, you are ignoring the fact that there is a worldwide economic downturn. Brazil’s problems are not isolated. I don’t know the facts about corruption in Brazil, but the idea that neoliberal polices will help average Brazilians seems unlikely.
What we are seeing here is a classic CIA style soft coup where the country’s resources are being privatized/stolen. They are literally handing control of the nation’s wealth over to the Goldman Sachs banking mafia. The united States is waging economic war on the BRICS nations, because they threaten US hegemony.
But putting that aside for a moment, if you don’t respect the Democratic political process tha telected Dilma, you are risking a civil war along the lines of Yemen, Ukraine, Syria and Iraq and Libya. The people you are dealing with, have no compunctions turning Brazil into a failed state.
Beware, it can get worse, a lot worse.
did You Lie
Did you know that privateers are always looking to hire racist gofer mercenaries to do their bidding to exploit people and the planet for personal gain?
Do you know that privitisation of public and life support resources is a violation of God’s will?
Well said!
This whole mess is very much of PT’s own doing.
They got elected as a breath of fresh air, a break from the old order and a new way of doing business and politics in Brazil and slowly frayed and eroded, got corrupted and became what it got elected to fight in the first place.
There is a huge and strong sense of betrayal felt by the supporters.
There is no denying that this bunch currently in charge is a thoroughly corrupted and despicable lot and that the country will be worse off for it but, Glenn, let’s not idolize and idealize what the party’s top echelons directly did or turned a knowing blind eye to, and that does include Dilma and Lula, though to what degree of participation or collusion isn’t clear yet.
No one is strictly innocent here and now we are at the mercy of a pack of hyenas which will set Brazil back enormously.
Just, thank you. Where else could we see something like this? Thank you.
It is really funny when she says that the Supreme Court is composed of 12 judges. It is only ELEVEN! What a shame, former Ms. President! And what about when Mr. Greenwald says that the Brazilians should fight against this “government” with civil disobedience! So false! SEVENTY PERCENT of the Brazilians wanted her out of the government! Brazilian would fight with civil disobedience if she had stayed in the office! Mr. Temer, as VP, received the same number of votes like her! So misleading this interview!
“And what about when Mr. Greenwald says that the Brazilians should fight against this ‘government’ with civil disobedience! So false! SEVENTY PERCENT of the Brazilians wanted her out of the government!”
Except that Greenwald didn’t suggest any such thing, in Portuguese or in the English translation.
“SEVENTY PERCENT of the Brazilians wanted her out of the government!”
And nearly 80% want a new election to choose the president, not a coup to install Temer and his cronies, who have been losing elections for several cycles.
Hell hath no fury like a socialist woman scorned
Half of DILMA ROUSSEFF told in this interview is lies. Other half is from her crazy minds. She is mental sickness.
Unfortunately she was a Brasilian President after the elections fraud. Nobody can believed in her or Party PT . They are a monsters . Brasil hates them. We are very happy never more she come back
Rousseff is a lier… In the elections she was said that don’t exist a crisis in the Brazil, one year later, Brazil is on the worst crisis of his history…
C’mon…
She have to be jailed…
Worst crisis in history? Which country are you from? Not Brazil for sure.
your article is full of understanding. this pt group almost sunk the rich Brasil. Go home!
All these comments defending a radical marxist are hilarious. Tell me more about how good and decent a women who hit a $180 billion dollar deficit is? Tell me more about how a Criminal should be allowed to continue to run a country. The idiocy is astounding. This woman is scum who wrecked an entire country. She deserves to rot in prison for the rest of her life.
And by all means…let’s not leave out Temer, Cunha and the rest.
Gotta be fair.
Dilma Rousseff. She is a remarkable person. I hear honesty and sincerity in her voice and see it in her expression. The people who operate in the dark are afraid of her. Her beauty has never left her but grows with her for the goodness she keeps. Just my opinion.
I can imagine Glenn asking Dilma about the direction of America… she would suddenly recoil slightly, her face would say a thousand words during the momentary freeze while pursing her lips to prevent a collage of off the cuff streams, maybe one bite of the lip, loading the chamber then leaning forward, squeezes the trigger…
I am a child of Cuban exiles. My grandparents were upper class Cubans who lost most of their money and property in Cuba in 1960. I do not understand what as either Lula or Dilma done. It seems they are being nailed for doing 36 miles per hour in a 35 mile per hour zone. If so I cannot fathom as an outsider what has members of the Rio Jockey Club in such an uproar. Their counterparts in Venezuela and Nicaragua would kill to have Lula or Dilma clones as President. I think all Brazilians have benefited from most government policies since Lula became President the poor of course but so did the wealthy. I cannot say this is really a coup because the President has low approval ratings but when my father used to travel to Sao Paulo or Porto Allegre in the mid 80s he told me untold horror stories of hyper-inflation and poverty. Maybe too much complaining is being done by young people who were not alive during those times?
[ “It seems they are being nailed for doing 36 miles per hour in a 35 mile per hour zone” ]
See the graphic below:
http://www.mises.org.br/images/articles/2016/Abril/pedaladas/graficopedaladas.png
This is of one single bank only. There are more banks, more utilities, and more companies Dilma and her crew misused to boost her ratings in order to be reelected. She lied about the actual situation of the budget, used makeup on the balances and hid the deficit of those companies and of the government.
The skeletons left by Dilma and her team figures about 160 Billion.
For a poor country like Brazil, with no education, no security, no health, this is rather a heinous crime, like mass murder, not a speed ticket.
The pedaladas explained:
http://www.mises.org.br/Article.aspx?id=2371
Do tell…Thomas. I am having a good laugh at all of these perfect English American accents telling us the whole Brazilian affair…
Inside much?
You are surprised Americans actually live in Brazil and comment on the political situation there? Why?
oh….let’s just say a little bird told me about the average American coup(s) in Latin American and now the ME.
It’s not too hard to follow the SOP and the money.
There definitely is no “too much complaining by young people who were not alive during those times” as human rights (such as education, security, health) are universal. And no matter where in the world, rich countries or poor countries, they are discarded like waste and rubble in the name of austerity. When we assume that the human rights of one group are to be neglected as another group might (have) suffer(ed) more, we’re heading down a very dark road.
The idea that human suffering is measurable is despicable.
Sorry, didnt get your point.
By “inside much?” are you implying I’d be part of “the coup”?
Se sim, desculpe desapontá-lo. Não sou gringo, e também isso pouco importa, pq não tem nada a ver com estrangeiros se mentendo aqui. Tudo o que se passa aqui aconteceu por pressao popular de quem está de saco cheio do PT.
F$%K Foro de São Paulo!
If you owned property or had school age kids in Brazil you would probably understand without difficulty.
It could also be genetic, your grandparents didn’t see it coming either.
The economic prosperity of Lula’s first term was entirely the result of the previous administrations neo-liberal, anti-socialist policies. I was there and saw how those policies brought about a miraculous transformation in a very short time, raising millions out of poverty. While Lula crowed and took credit for the prosperity whose momentum continued during his first term, he implemented policies that would soon destroy it. This along with the most corrupt political party to ever hold power in Brazil directly led to the present situation of massive unemployment, inflation, the collapse of the Brazilian stock market with the loss of billions in wealth, including the retirement funds of millions of working Brazilian.
Yes, I was in Brazil during the 80s and witnessed the hyperinflation first hand. This was also the doing of statist socialism. The plano Real of Fernando Henrique Cardoso, who became president in the 90s, rejected socialism, established a stable currency, and energized the economy. The PT of Lula and Dilma has not managed to repeat the hyperinflation of the 80s, but they put the country on a good trajectory to arrive there soon, if something isn’t done to stop it.
“Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely”
Since Snowden, I’ve always thought about you Glenn, as a soldier of truth, denouncing the dangers of a government big enough to take away our freedom.
But now you’re defending the “brazilian democracy” (i.e. Dilma, PT*), it seems either you had a u-turn, or I read you wrongly back in the day.
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* Worker’s party. The party responsible for the biggest corruption scandal ever know in the history of mankind (Petrolão).
I guess Brazil doesn’t just print the money like we do to cover holes in the budget.We are at a trillion?dollar deficit?
It’s most certainly not the greatest corruption scandal in history,that’s the banksters here in the USA,where our govt stole our dough(billions) to pay back the gamblers.
Whats with all the commie hysteria?They are dead,or dying.
It’s not hysteria, for they are alive and infiltrated and running in our media, education, culture, news, radio, broadcasting. This is a more subtle type of communism, from Gramsci. Their actual plot is to take over with mindshaping the people, not with tanks and bazookas.
Look no further. All the SJW stupidity happening in America is part of these commies too.
And bailing out the banksters, they will have pay back, eventually.
The theft inside our state-run companies is a lost case. 13 years making up numbers, god knows how much have been stolen….
PT most certainly wouldn’t mind to monetize the debt ad infinitum. Just like Venezuela, where now the inflation is so outrageously out of control that they dont have enough money to keep printing money….
http://www.economistax.com/venezuela-nao-tem-dinheiro-para-imprimir-dinheiro/
Communists running communism….
Well, I have to admit that the (de facto?) Temeristas are more amusing than the boring and predictable hasbarists . . . but that may not last long.
The next play in this game may very well be to re-establish military rule under the guise of containing the unrest and maintaining order during the Olympics. The fact that a significant number of right wing politicians and oligarchs are facing corruption investigations or charges is one clue. A public process presents a real danger to them.
Another is that Temer has assembled a Cabinet populated completely by white males that will be the political instrument of the oligarchs of the country. This is something of a raspberry to the voting public. Such a move signals that the new government has no need to even so much as feign appearances of inclusion and democracy for a next election. They may not see there being one, -or at least one where they would ever risk losing.
And a third clue is that this element is outraged that the working/poor class has been given access, at least to some extent, to the fruits of their country. This has been achieved through the evolution of meaningful democracy. It will not be lost on the oligarchs that they will not reverse or even contain this inclusion of ‘the people’ into the political processes of Brazil through any continuation of the present system. ….And you can bet the rent that they’re not about to return to a system where their numbers can’t win a clear majority.
The next clue may be the sighting of American ‘advisers’.
https://www.rt.com/news/342933-temer-us-brazil-spying/
Brazil’s Acting President Used to Be US Intel Informant – WikiLeaks
Mister Greenwald! Firstly, I must give you congratulations for your good portuguese language practise. You’re even better than even 2/3 of brazilians, many of which are from the middle and high classes.
Let me now give you some observations on the conservative phenomenon manifested in Brazil today. Some of the users which already commented here said the conservatives are now 70% of brazillian population. Although it’s not real, would be correct to say that such number is a strong tendency to reach. Brazilian society is moving all the way to assume rightwing conservatism visions of reality, and may reach 70% of the population in short future, and many of them are, ironically, also emerging from the poor classes, influenced by leaders of several religious communities.
This is because a factor which has no precedent even in the whole history of mankind, or at least on studies we may consider on sociology and antropology disciplines. The religious factor is actually playing a strong influence here. All over the country, society is receiving injections of religious discourse, which gain even more power with TV, internet social networks and mainly YouTube videos, all produced by many religious communities. These communities have a convinced judeo-christian identity, and their leaders speaks on such identity, using their narratives to reinforce very old brazillian social pathologies that date back to the Colonialist Era and its slave system of production. If you study brazilian history, you’ll see the paradigms of that era still active in the deep collective mentality of our country, mainly on things that constructs relations of labor work in the society.
Was not by coincidence that Michel Temer said “lets not talk about crisis: lets just work!”, and his discourse actually gained a strong support of society from people of all the economic classes.
This happens here because the very concept of “work”, by its founding labor sweat force wand sacrifice basics, is now defended as a religious duty, be it under the paradigms of hierarquial “boss vs. subordinates” or not. And the result of this is a society deeply immersed in a meritocracy fairy tale with no means to submit it for question, lest one wants to face hell as the end.
So, the problem that brazilian society faces today is far beyond this political theater. If you want to understand Brazil just by political formalities, you’ll never be able to see the big picture.
I just give you here the true face of the rightwing conservatism, that’s more with a slavery design in its complexity, under the signm of the “devine law” than anything else.
I’m not a leftwing citizen, nor supporter of centralism… I’m just a brazilian mind staying in the very Singularity realm, watching the theater from above.
That’s it!
[” I’m just a brazilian mind staying in the very Singularity realm, watching the theater from above. “]
I’d say you just showed your self-righteous, holier-than-thou mindset. But since you’re above this right-wing left-wing theater you might as well be related or the very divinity of all religions you’ve just criticized above.
Bless me, almighty isentão…
No início eu achei que você deve ser professor em alguma faculdade, pois somente um acadêmico possa acreditar tal bobagem. Mas percebo que você é apenas mais um coitado enganado pelo discurso anti-religioso do marxismo. Sou professor, doutor em sociologia da religião e ciências da religião. Minha tese de PhD trata a história de escravidão no Brasil. Eu posso dizer, com bastante certeza, que sua leitura do suposto vínculo entre a fé cristã no Brasil nos dias de hoje e as narrativas opressivas do passado é bobagem mesmo. De fato, na história do mundo, quanto mais os princípios da Bíblia, através da influência da Reforma Protestante, estivessem colocados na prática, quanto mais liberdade e prosperidade econômica. Somente um marxista convicto pode ficar tão isolado da realidade que não consegue entender o que é óbvio para qualquer um interessado nos fatos.
This is a lie! Mrs Rousseff used to rob banks to finance her terrorist group in the past!
Because of her and her fiscal crimes to finance her reelection we have now around a R$200 billion fiscal deficit!
She comited those fiscal crimes and is responsible for all our economical problems nowadays!
“There is no such thing as a free lunch!”
She spent millions in social programs just before the election, and had to cut everything afterwards!
Do not fool yourselves, we, 70% of the population that supported the impeachment, placed our hopes in the new government!
Government… public enemy #1!
Can Latin America exist independently of Washington’s control and exploitation by US corporations?
Caro jornalista,
Nós, brasileiros, respeitamos imensamente a liberdade de imprensa e a liberdade de comunicações. Por tal motivo o senhor está em nosso país, a escrever coisas que se encaixam perfeitamente no discurso de vítima da senhora Dilma, de seus militantes e de, principalmente, de seus “pendurados”. Entretanto, o que o senhor escreve não tem o menor lastro de veracidade.
A senhora Dilma Rousseff cometeu um gravíssimo crime de responsabilidade, maquiou as contas públicas como jamais havia sido feito por outro gestor em nosso País (vide relatórios do Banco Central), acobertou um esquema de corrupção cujas consequências sangrarão a sociedade brasileira por um bom tempo.
Não fosse o bastante, o senhor ainda afirma que “Ao contrário de Dilma, o interino se encontra pessoalmente envolvido em escândalos de corrupção” .
Ora, Dilma Rousseff nomeou Ministros de Tribunais Superiores com o acordo de livramento de empreiteiros envolvidos na Lava-jato, nomeou Lula Ministro para que sua ação fosse para o Supremo Tribunal Federal.
Dilma é uma criminosa, assim como diversos outros políticos que ainda contribuem para a crise atualmente existente no Brasil.
Logo, comunico ao senhor que a entrevista parte das premissas erradas e, por isso, não merece nenhuma credibilidade.
Eu, como cidadã brasileira, rejeito a tese de golpe, apoio o impeachment com base no crime de responsabilidade, espero que o Presidente interino consigo iniciar as mudanças necessárias em nosso País e, se realmente estiver envolvido em esquemas de corrupção, que pague por isso.
Por fim, peço ao senhor que continue exercendo o seu direito constitucional de comunicação, mas afirmo com veemência que, atualmente, o que o senhor faz é somente prestar um desserviço ao nosso País (que, diga-se de passagem, não é o seu e que, por isso, não sente as consequências nefastas da institucionalização da corrupção feita pelo PT) e promover um jornalismo puramente tendencioso e inverídico.
Dilma cometeu um crime de responsabilidade, Temer me representa, e espero que o Partido dos Trabalhadores e sua ideologia de poder sejam extirpados do meu País.
Atenciosamente,
Wanessa Maia
Cidadã Brasileira
Parabéns, Wanessa. Muita boa, sua resposta.
Dilma não está enxergando a realidade. Temer está demitindo a cada dia pessoas que ocupavam seus cargos apenas por pertencerem ao partido, pessoas que utilizavam seus cargos para manutenção do poder do PT. Isto não é democracia, isto não é justo com o povo, isso é tomar o poder para si e utiliza-lo para seus próprios benefícios.
Temer irá cortar apenas o necessário, não existe segredo. Pegou um governo com um defict de mais de 160 bilhões, e precisa regular a balança dos gastos/ganhos.
Não existe nada de ilegitimo no governo Temer, assim como não houve com Itamar Franco. Dilma que deixa de ser hipócrita, e peça desculpas ao povo brasileiro pela sujeira que fizeram no país.
Oh, that truth teller “sophisticated” America hater Glenn Greenwald.
DR is daughter of a Bulgarian lawyer.
“the Workers’ Party (PT)”!, Judge Lewandowski. Greenwald, give us more, please.
Dilma Rousseff is a a corrupt beyond repair Commie and KGB collaborator.
Read former Lt. General Ion Mihai Pacepa “Disinformation” book. Mr. Pacepa described Dilma Rousseff’s revolutionary past, her Soviet KGB connections. She was energy minister in the government of her mentor Brazil’s socialist president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Putin hugged her as a relative at G20 meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia in Sept. 2013.
My house my life is not a song. It´s the most popular housing program in Brazil that is being reduced dramatically by the new fake government.
It’s being reduced because it shoudn’t be boosted in the first place.
The federal govt is broke. Dilma and her team broke it. Just like a socialist enthusiast she is, she thought she could steer the economy to her will.
Not even mentioning the outrageous and rampant corruption her party was doing, draining out our state-run companies, due her incompetence, ignorance and utter arrogance, the economy crumbled. She was sure the economy would bow to her. The government simply gave a **** about the principles, shred all of the macroeconomic principles, the revenue shrunk, the budget got out of balance, and what they do after this mess?? More populist and demagogic spending, of course.
Progressist thinking:
Where’s the money for all this welfare? Well, I don’t care. It’s their right to have them. Austerity is a facist thing. A balanced budget is a right-wing policy to make the poor suffer. If we run in debt, we can always print the money to compensate. Inflation?? Paul Krugman said quantitative easing didnt raise prices, so it will not happen, nevermind it already being +10%.
If these people only realized inflation is the very tax on the poor to the rich… a welfare program backwards…. But asking a leftist a little common sense and a grasp on economy is asking too much….
My friend unfortunately you don’t know our country. MHML has criated milions of new opportunities for the internal economy, building industry, home centers, new workers etc..Our big deficit is in its bigger part due to the commodities melting and the other portion due to the global economic turmoil. Use more you brain than you heart.
[“My friend unfortunately you don’t know our country”]
Spare me from this patronizing attitude. You don’t know me to make such assertion.
[“MHML has criated milions of new opportunities for the internal economy, building industry, home centers, new workers etc..”]
Had you a little, just a little, understanding on economics you should know thats a fallacy, the broken window fallacy:
https://youtu.be/QG4jhlPLVVs
Government cant create jobs. At best it transfer jobs from one sector to other. But usually it destroys jobs as it destroys wealth.
[“Our big deficit is in its bigger part due to the commodities melting…”]
This refers to our trade deficit, not government’s budget totally out of control due reckless spending and always rising debt path.
[“…and the other portion due to the global economic turmoil.”]
– USA and Europe growing (largest economies)
– India, China and South Africa growing (All brics, but Brazil and Russia, who’d know)
– Mexico growing – somewhat comparable to brazilian economy..
There is no global economic turmoil. No one seriously think of such thing.
[“Use more you brain than you heart.”]
Quit the holier-than-thou attitude and look at the mirror.
The IMF it’s the appropriate place for your expertise.
Oh, thanks for the tip, my friend!
Since you could hint me, how about you also hint everyone of the 11 million jobless where they can find a place to work?? Surely they will be much appreciated.
Very insightful interview.Thanks!
I tought news should be carried without tendency, witch did not happen here. Yes Temer might be involved in corruption. 99% of politics here in Brazil is. But Dilma’s administration cannot Saty. It’s the most corrupt of all, and very close to the politics carried in Venezuela. THIS is a real threat to democracy….
And we have to start the clean up somewhere, and kicking the president is a good start. Maybe it will, at least, diminish the sense most politics have that they are untouchable.
One after one we should clean the mess that’s on place since we were portugual colony…
She is really a great woman, our President, elected by 54 million votes. This interview shows how inteligent and sensible she is. She defends the human rights of all Brazilians. She is been vitimized by a coup, by a corrupted Congress, because she did not allow corruption to continue. A gang of thiefs and inescrupulous men want her out for defending the poor people, with programs for housing, healthcare and education for all. It’s too sad what is happening now in Brazil, and we hope people all around the world react to this. In Brazil the midia will not allow her to speak. We need external communication people like Greenwald to do that. Thanks a lot, Greenwald!
A Dilma Rousseff, foi afastada ao vontade do povo brasileiro. Calçados de tantos escândalos dos seus aliados. O trâmite no congresso foi absolutamente legal e dentro da tutela da constituição… Golpe foi obque ela fez durante esses quase 8 anos. Fora Dilma.
Ela foi eleita duas vezes. Por acaso, eleição agora é golpe? Legal! Não vai ter golpe! Fora Temer!
Tchau, Querida!!
What a biased article, same as every other article written by supporters od Dilma Rousseff. You’re spreading lies to The world, using the silliest argument to backup your claims: “but the other politicians are as corrupt or more corrupt than Dilma”.
Let me get something straight: nobody wanted Temer as president, we only wanted Dilma out. She IS corrupt, there are plenty of evidences against her. To remove her from power is the first step for a better Brazil: if we can take down a president, we can take down governors, mayors and senators. The people will not tolerate the wide open corruption that has spread within our country and we will fight anyone, be it Dilma, Lula, Aecio, Michel Temer or whoever be elected to act as our president. They have to be reminded that to be a governant of any kind is a temporary status, given by the people and can be taken away by the people.
I’m Brazilian. Don’t believe in anything she or he are saying. Ms. Rousseff and her party are involved in the largest corruption scandal of the modern age. Her party stole billions of dollars from the public companies to fund her campaign. Her manouvers (pedaladas) disguised more than 80 billion of fiscal deficit in a single year. She had at least the duty of care and loyalty, which she clearly violated. She is liable and her impeachment is correct. It is a fallacy to say that the country is split. More than 70% of the Brazilian population supported her impeachment. No more PT (which has an ideology very similiar to the ones seen in Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba!) in our lives!
That’s a HUGE lie. First, in the last poll, 61 % wanted Dilma’s impeachment and 58 % wanted Temer’s impeachment. While 25 % wanted her to stay and 8 % want him to be the president. The ‘pedaladas’ was from her first term and even tough it was wrong to do it, does not warrant impeachment. Specially when the VP, and now interim president, sanctioned that. Second, PT government has nothing to do with Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba (actually, those 3 government have nothing to do with each other), apart from the fact that they are left-leaning. Compare Brazil’s government with Cuba’s is as reasonable as to compare Reagan’s government with Pinochet’s: both are right-leaning, but one is a dictatorship and the other a democracy.
I’m brazilian too. And I can agree partially with your point of view. It true that PT stole, paid and receive bribe, kickback and etc. But it’s true also that the interim president and his party has been doing the same and much more for ages. as well PSDB, DEM and others. When the leftist say that this process is a white coup, they are not refering to the process of impeachment by itself, that has been running in accordance with our constitution. They are trying to show that what is an ongoing conspiracy case against a leftist government and against the PT, since there is to say that everything is for the end of corruption, since the interim government has as leader and seven ministers investigated. In addition to the PMDB which by itself is synonymous with corruption and political parasitism. They are using subterfuge as the pseudo-crime budget, which should it be a crime, was systematically committed by previous governments, to overthrow the elected president. Moreover, as in 1954 and 1964, it has full support of the Brazilian media oligarchies. If it were to end corruption, certainly I would support, but unfortunately only for change what is bad for what will be worst.
I believe there is a flaw in your conclusion. It will not be “only for a change what is bad for what will be worse”, it is simply the removal of a criminal from office.
Dilma is not being impeached for corruption. She has no corruption allegations against her. And the budgetary misconduct? It is like to convict someone to prison for running a red light.
Fantastic article. It is deeply depressing to see democracy being butchered by PSDB/PMDB and all the other fascists who kidnapped our country. Thanks for this article
“Why wouldn’t I say that it’s the end of democracy? Because today, institutions can be disrupted, but they’re stronger than you think.”
Amen. We outnumber the elite when enough of us pay attention. Nice interview GG.
+Plus the marvelous Intertoobs.
Tenho vergonha de ter uma Presidenta que tenta destruir o próprio país, nas eleições municipais o PT vai se aliar com o PMDB, ela usa mentiras para se eleger.
The genius of the founders of the Brazilian constitution was to provide a balance of powers. The tyranny of the people to impose their preferred president on the country via the electoral process, was balanced against the power of the senate to remove that leader.
This does lead to a certain level of instability. Most Brazilians appear to believe that Temer, who is far more corrupt than Dilma, will in turn be impeached. This makes his choice of a VP extremely important. He should therefore consider the example of the United States which has a similar constitutional system. Presidential candidates are careful to pick a VP who no one could possibly want as president. This provides them with a certain degree of job security and consequently, impeachment of the President is a relatively rare event in US politics.
So, why Trump will pick Palin?
Insidious.
When the wicked(rulers and puppets) rise folly is set/risen in many exalted places while rich men sit/cloak in dark democratic humble places that is no democracy at all against poor people.
This is why is never wise to select to any presidential cabinet wicked corrupt individuals no matter how much the clandestine dark puppets provide you with counsel. The first step is to expose and find the clandestine corrupt puppets who want to provide wicked counsel otherwise ignorance will run rampant from the very begining or the “get go.” which is how the wicked corrupt hands operate to begin with and one must be very vigilant against these kind of puppets who are even informants of foreign states peddling and advancing global macabre agendas.
I hope Brasil finish the project of having their own infrastructure of www-internet cables under the ocean and make sure no hidden hands and clandestine operatives ever work or run or inspect or touch this project because it could become the only awesome source of legitimate information the world has ever had. As the inventor of the internet who is still alive would want the internet not to be censored when it comes to legitimate source of information that is not propaganda, manipulations and pseudo-dealing/appearances.
Dear Benito,
The simple affirmation the Temer is more currupt than Dilma shows that you have no undestanding of the situation in Brasil.
The commie Dilma and her dear friend Lula instituted the largest corruption scheme in the history of all nations.
Socialism = corruption and death.
I don’t think you give Temer enough credit. His name is associated with operation Sand Castle and operation Pandora’s Box. By contrast, Dilma has not yet been implicated by prosecutors in operation Car Wash. So I think that Temer still has a sizable lead in the corruption race.
Brazil, by the way, has the best names for its corruption scandals.
As you said, Temer is associated with operations SC and PBOX, not convicted. He may, one day, have the credits that you want to give him.
Dilma, as right had women of Lula, is implicated in set up of the Petrolão, Eletrolão, BNDESão, etc.. and surely in the near future it will all be in the open.
It would be foolish to expect anything less from a former terrorist who fought against democracy for a dictatorship os the proletariat.
Only at The Intercept will you find Benito Mussolini and Depressed Stalin talking cross-purposes folks.
Please give Mr. Bahhummingbug some gold.
lol………….
“Brazil, by the way, has the best names for its corruption scandals.”
Agreed!
It is probably a reflection of our colorful culture.
You may be a badly informed banana republican fascist but you do deserve credit for volume.
The separation of powers in Brazilian system is very bad because the Brazilian Constitution is so long and complex. The Supreme Court interferes with the Executive and the Legislative branches all the time, and the President can issue decrees the can the Congress must revoke afterwards. The PT is trying to stop the impeachment through the courts, which is something that would not happen in the US because the separation of powers is better defined.
Please. Laws in the US are so arbitrarily applied they cannot be categorized as laws.
As they say in Brazil and the US: “For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law.”
Dear GG,
Thank you for the interview with our brave president. I just want to point that she looks very optimistic that the “Car Wash” operation will continue and make justice on all the corrupts. Significant sectors of the Judiciary and Federal Police are part of the scandal to persecute Dilma and the PT. For this goal, they practice a kind of “selective justice” treating the supporters of the coup lighter or just not going after them. Their main goal is to arrest and/or impede president Lula before the 2018 elections ( if there will be elections) because they know, their side will NEVER defeat him.
ludi incipiant
The game within the game. The politician who sits in the chair of influence when the games commence, will have good press.
Democracy is dying everywhere and things can only get worse.
Don’t cry for her Brazil, cry for yourselves.
Great interview Glenn! What you do is a major example to many people, including those who aim to become journalist someday.
Keep it up, some people watch you regularly from Italy.
mr
Dilma, as aways, the best stand-up comedy artist ever, every single interview is pure gold. at least got some laughs today! thx Glen.
Some readers here might be interested to check out the approx. 20 mins. interview with Rousseff undertaken by one of RT’s Spanish correspondents, Nicolas Sanchez, which is currently (as of today, Friday) being broadcast @ rt.com, is pretty much synchronous with GG’s, and covers some if not much of the same ground..
On second thoughts, I would have done far better had I characterized the two interviews as, simply, complementary to one another.
Some individuals hate to see others with the freedom or power to act independently no matter how isolated or small in comparison. They believe they should run your interests and despise your independence. This can happen anywhere as 90% of people are followers, and never take time to learn things for themselves instead relying on the opinion of others. Much of the older generations have long follow the pack, and even when friends and very close community members are subjected to great injustice they ignore it in the vain attempt they won’t draw attention to themselves.
Even in the most civilised societies, top representitives can abuse power and murder or victimise those who oppose such abuse, and yet still the people will ignore it and pretend all is OK while only commenting on the injustice privately.
Dear Glenn,
This is the first time that I have visited your site, and I confess that I did not researched your background (you would be surprised to know how much party sponsored press you find in Brazil nowadays), but I will give the benefit of doubt and assumed you are just somewhat uninformed. If this is not the case this text will serve for other readers.
I am a physician in Brazil, and have dealt and observed the poor, their education and health conditions over the past 20 years, working with public health.
Brazil did not had a coup. Period.
Former president Dilma and Lula’s party, PT, have established a populist government that not only has failed to improve education of the people, has worsened the public health and installed a form of “social programs” to perpetuate themselves in power.
There are many examples of that populist manipulation. With bolsa família, the government gives a US$100,00 salary to the people who are unemployed. As she said herself, it is rising and have some 47 million brazilians benefited monthly. That’s roughly 25% of the population. Unemployed. Scared to get a job because it would mean loose their benefit. With relentless propaganda prior to the elections spreading that it would end if the people voted for the other party.
By the way, the other party, which I am not a supporter but I voted for, has not made an allegiance with Brazil’s worst, Temer, maul and former impeached ex-president Collor (!!!!), all reminiscent of the real military coup of 1964.
Dilma and Lula had the two biggest corruption scandals of Brazil’s history. In one of them, they send politicians a monthly salary (see the pattern?) of public money to vote and support them.
In the other, they deviated some 11 billion dollars to themselves and to the party from the public petrol company, which, by the way, Dilma was the president at the time.
The PT government has been overthrown because it was corrupted and populist and has worsened people’s lives.
When Lula was elected, I was a little bit sad because I believe that socialist governments have failed worldwide, but I remember thinking that at least it was not the militarist reminiscent of corruption of PMDB, Color, Maluf (see the irony?), but in the 13 years of their government I was disgusted at how corrupt and populist a government can be.
Dilma’s speech of the “coup” is another false propaganda that she is trying to disseminate to the world. Brazil’s people has been protesting with millions in the street, opposing to PT and Dilma. And the majority of the votes she mentions, they forget to count all the people that did not vote at the election, in part because her government invented a holiday the day before the elections so people could travel and miss it. Altogether, 2/3 of the voting population did not vote for her.
Hope I helped,
Fernando
Great interview. I appreciate hearing her side of the story. Sorry that Brazil is going through this illegal drama.
“This ilegal drama”????
Ridiculous comment.
It is so, so sad to see what good intentioned media people can do in such a crisis, especially when powered by such brilliant narrative as you, Mr.Greenwald. But I have to say, you are strongly ill advised. Did you ask that person about the 19 year-old boy she literally blew up when that younger picture of her was taken? (yes, with a grenade, in a place called Barueri, well know fact) Or about the massive financing she promoted during her years as president to Cuba and Venezuela dictatorships, all thoroughly documented? Are you aware she was implicated in dozens of corruptions schemes (such as the Pasadena inquiry) and that for bureaucratic laws she approved she can’t be accused of due to special presidential rights? So, my dear friend, truth is: you can look at this story and find reasons to vouch for her. Undoubtedly true. But there is so, so much is not mentioned during this process. Ans my true opinion is that this person did a lot of great things: she empowered women and changed the balance of a chronic unequal country by creating meaningful social programs.But she did so at the cost of millions unemployed, unseen debt and economical losses that will cost 30 years to repair. PS; I’m a 40 year old brazilian that have seen it from inside.
I have watched your interview with Dilma. I really liked the way you did it. You started a conversation with her, it wasn’t like she had been interviewed. And she felt more comfortable speaking with you than speaking to any brazilian journalists. This really changes our way to view what our media outlets here in Brazil are doing. They are not fair, they are trying to make us forget that Dilma still the president. For them, she is not the president anymore. I hate brazilian media. I can’t watch their news, read their newspapers without remember they are the acting part of this coup we are now seeing here. Please still do this work. It is really important to all of us!
She seems like a very intelligent person. I’m trying to figure out how it came to this. If this is being driven by an economic crisis, what is the response? Does Brazil have a Council of Economic Advisors like the United States? She said they ran out of resources to engage in counter-cyclical operations and that Brazil has been stumbling from crisis to crisis for the last 4 or 5 years? What do her advisors say? Did she take effective action i. e. fire a couple of economists, convene an economic summit? What counter-cyclical policies did she implement?
It looks like they got caught up in an economic commodities bubble of some sort. Richard Wolfe and others are claiming that the crisis will soon come to America. Prof. Wolfe was recently interviewed on RT’s SophieCo. I especially like Sophie’s facial expressions. Apparently, sitting through an economics lecture is not something she appreciates. Wolfe is a retired economics professor. I keep expecting him to say. “Pay attention young lady. You are going to be tested on this later. You don’t want to get impeached like Dilma Rousseff!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lzIb6gEWyE
Congratulations to the Intercept on getting a terrific interview. It is good to see that having a measure of integrity can still earn respect on an international basis.
A entrevista foi bem esclarecedora. Parabéns! E Glenn Greenwald, seu português é muito bom.
Now that… was a beautiful interview. Zero hyperbole. Just a frank conversation. Glenn outdoes himself in this interview. And Dilma is fantastic.
Bernie Sanders should watch this interview.
MSM: Hey Bernie, will you support Hillary when you lose.
Bernie should answer: I ain’t answerin’ such a ridiculous question.
Brilliant interview Glenn!!!
That’s my president.
No és más!
Too bad you ruined the article with the “opinion” that Temer is essentially a right-wing radical who is going to eliminate Brazil’s federal social programs. Dilma (Lula 2.0) should have left without dragging the country through this whole process.
Let’s keep it simple. In the sixties and seventies the US used the generals (Gorillas) to overthrow democratic elected governments, Obama is more sophisticated, he and the CIA use know public demonstration, they buy opposition politicians who are not very expensive, they meet with them in Miami, the right place to do business with fascists. What happened with the elected president of Brazil was just another CIA Coup d’ Etat ” a la Obama” like the one that happened in Ukraine a couple of years ago. The next one is Venezuela.
Socrates,
Please open your eyes.
Best,
Spirit of Ronald Reagan
I have cried!
It speaks volumes that a sitting president (even one in the process of being impeached), would meet with a journalist like Mr. Greenwald. I would’ve appreciated a little bit more pushback on some of the questions that were clearly deflected, but I recognize the challenge of interviewing the president of one of the most populous countries in the world. The fact that those types of questions would get asked at all is truly inspirational in the current famine of real journalism.
Side Note: I haven’t seen a good interview with somewhat hostile questions from a US president since Frost Nixon. This is, however, probably a good thing, as I don’t know if the American population really needs an “Unknown, Known” demonstration of vapidness about George Bush, and I’m not certain that giving the Clintons any airtime is a good thing, especially in this political climate.
Péssima entrevista. Péssimas alegações da Dilma. Denota falta de estratégia. Ela fala como se estivesse em campanha eleitoral. É gritante a falta que faz um publicitário nessas horas. Ela ainda não entendeu que política é fora da lógica binária e sim um campo emocional.
When the wicked(rulers and puppets) rise folly is set/risen in many exalted places while rich men sit/cloak in dark democratic humble places that is no democracy at all against poor people.
This is why is never wise to select to any presidential cabinet wicked corrupt individuals no matter how much the clandestine dark puppets provide you with counsel. The first step is to expose and find the clandestine corrupt puppets who want to provide wicked counsel otherwise ignorance will run rampant from the very begining or the “get go.” which is how the wicked corrupt hands operate to begin with and one must be very vigilant against these kind of puppets who are even informants of foreign states peddling and advancing global macabre agendas.
I hope Brasil finish the project of having their own infrastructure of www-internet cables under the ocean and make sure no hidden hands and clandestine operatives ever work or run or inspect or touch this project because it could become the only awesome source of legitimate information the world has ever had. As the inventor of the internet who is still alive would want the internet not to be censored when it comes to legitimate source of information that is not propaganda, manipulations and pseudo-dealing/appearances.
Please disclose , denounce !!
The president of Brazil , Dilma Rousseff , is being held under siege in the Planalto Palace , under orders from the interim president Michel Temer !
Watch the video of Senator Jorge Viana complaint in Congress… http://www.plantaobrasil.net/news.asp?nID=94418
Dilma and PT have destroyed Brazil for 13 years. People are tired of this. We need to scape of this situation.
#ByeDarling
Very good interview and introductory notes.
I’ve been critical of previous articles published here about the Brazil situation, for thinking they were misleading, but this time I have nothing critical to say. Very balanced, accurate, even correcting some inaccuracies from other articles.
Outstanding job!
This article indicates a reference to “New President of Brazil, Michel Temer, Signals More Conservative Shift” in the NY Times along with Glenns choice of words “has begun preparing the groundwork for a radical right-wing attack on the country’s social safety net,”.. There is nothing in that article but opinion on what the “intentions” of Temer “could be” rather than anything substantial. Certainly, nothing that warrants saying “has begun preparing the groundwork for a radical right-wing attack on the country’s social safety net,”… The is a first clue that shows the bias of the author.
Glenn is showing true bias for PT. Brazilians want Dilma impeached, and they want Temer impeached. However, Dilma comes first. She’s the president. She covered up fiscal holes and won the election by a sliver. We’re not talking a large majority win here, we’re talking about a sliver. A hair. Most Brazilians believe it’s reasonable that by not unlawfully covering up fiscal holes, that the election could have went in favour of the opposition party. That’s an impeachable offence.
Anti-Dilma protesters exponentially outnumber Pro-Dilma ones. It’s apparent by the numbers at the protests. If this was unbiased journalism, then these facts would not be omitted.
It’s fair to have an opinion as long as you report on the facts fairly and objectively. That’s not being done here.
Right, it’s all just speculative
Yes, but when any government comes to power there is always criticism of their agenda, and actions they are taking. When PT originally came to power they were highly criticized as a political party with an agenda to stay in power indefinitely under the disguise of democracy.
You have the supreme court protecting their own. I suggest that PT bringing in new Supreme Court Justices who automatically voted in favour of PT in Mensalão is not fair, or undemocratic, or however you want to label it. It was legal. Lula has been named and implicated in Lavo Jato by many key whitnesses. Dilma used her power to make him a minister days after being interrogated by the police. Phone call conversations, and a same day run in the press to announce the move clearly shows motive of trying to protect Lula from a federal case which is closing in on him.
Other political parties aren’t clean either, but it’s clear that Brazilians have had enough and want change. This is why most (I would say the majority) support the impeachment. The billions of dollars siphoned from public companies also needs to be accounted for. Certainly, we don’t believe that the SFT is impartial. They have shown their bias for PT for years.
I haven’t said anything that nobody already knows, so my point is that the impeachment process is a legal maneuver. Senate will have the final say. Dilma was elected and Temer as VP knowing that Temer would be the man to step up as President in the case where it was necessary. That was legal, and democratically, the voters by voting for PT they got both Dilma and Temer.
Again, I want to draw the line between the actions of the current government and the impeachment. These are separate issues. Bottom line: Temer was VP due to democratic process.
Impeachment proceedings are legal. One side says it was an “error” while the other side says it’s a crime. Brazilians are taking similar stances. If the fiscal holes were not covered up would Dilma still have won the election? Maybe. Maybe not. Ultimately, the senate will set precedent here and make the final decision. According to the large number of protestors for impeachment, it’s clear most Brazilians are for these legal proceedings to take place.
What a tough lady. Strong, wise. She’ll be back in no time.
She’ll be back in jail where terrorists belong.
Obrigada e parabéns Glenn. Seu profissionalismo é de suma importância para que seja transmitido aos brasileiros e ao mundo o que está, infelizmente, acontecendo em nossa política. Serve também como um contraponto ao que a nossa mídia (globo golpista e cia) noticia. Muito obrigada.
Glenn, agradeço seu empenho em mostrar ao mundo o que acontece aqui no brasil. É uma vergonha que a grande mídia no país não pratique jornalismo, mas panfletagem retrógrada. E isso torna sua contribuição mais importante ainda, pois foi a partir dela que a imprensa internacional pode ter acesso e se interessar. Estamos tão acostumados a ver isso (eu vejo desde pequena) que acaba sendo estranho que não seja assim em outros lugares. Fiquei surpresa ao ver grandes jornais como o NYT e o The Guardian noticiando o que realmente acontecia, enquanto aqui jornais, revistas e TV encobriam e criavam a realidade a seu gosto. Penso que a democratização da mídia não podia ter sido deixada para depois ao longo dos últimos anos. E agora estamos ameaçados com perda de direitos e retrocesso. Mais uma vez obrigada!
Congratulations for this interview Mr. Greenwald. Another important point of view in this hard moment. I hope Intercept can get the interview with Mr.
putschist…sorry Mr. Temer, too.
As everything in Brazil under Lula and dilma , someone please inspect GG ‘s bank account. This one must’ve been one of the good ones.
Glenn – it is not true that the Supreme Court will be the last stage of the impeachment process. Dilma was correct on that it is not likely that the Court will judge the substance of the charges. Some people believe it could, but it would go against the letter of the Constitution and it is unlikely the court will do it. The court can only take procedural questions, the merit is to be decided by the Senate as the last instance.
Caro Glenn
Tenho imenso respeito por seu profissionalismo e por ter falado a Amapour sobre o verdadeiro motivo da crise do impeachment no Brasil
Pena que Amapour infelizmente , na entrevista que fez depois com fhc, o hipocrita, nao o confrontou de fato
Explico-me- Ao questiona-lo dizendo que as pedaladas foram tambem feitas no governo dele, ate em maior numero, nao foram questionadas, nao eram passiveis de reprovacao pelo TCU. O corrupto hipocrita fhc responde que antes, no tempo dele, elas eram permitidas, nao eram consideradas crime MAS que depois mudou a interpertacao, que agora nao eram mais aceitas e que eram sim consideradas um a irregularidade, agora sim eh crime
ENTAO ela deveria ter perguntado QUANDO FOI MODIFICADO, QUAL DATA FOI VOTADA ESTA MODIFICACAO NA INTERPRETACAO DAS PEDALADAS, QUEM MODIFICOU, QUAL O NUMERO DA NOVA LEI, VOTADA PELO SENADO E PELO DEPUTADOS, ONDE E QUANDO FOI PUBLICADA
Uma pena que ela nao o tenha confrontado em frente as cameras da CNN que seriam as cameras que finalmente tirariam a mascara deste impostor
Atenciosamente
Mirian P Cardoso
Dear GG,
I have to say this is a pitiful piece of communist propaganda.
Brazilians took the streets in millions like NEVER before and they chose the green and yellow as the color of their flag. If that is not ok with your ideology feel free to move to Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.
Be nice and respect the choice of the overwhelming Brazilian majority.
Best,
Depressed Stalin
“I have to say this is a pitiful piece of communist propaganda.”
Really? What did you hear or read that suggested communism in any way? Or are you still hung up on Dilma’s youthful (and perfectly appropriate and honorable) associations?
“If that is not ok with your ideology feel free to move to Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.”
Ooh! The “love it or leave it” chorus. Very convincing. ;^(
“Be nice and respect the choice of the overwhelming Brazilian majority.”
Aren’t those choices properly made at the polls, by the voters? That’s certainly what Brazilians seem to prefer. in an April Datafohlia poll, 79% indicated that they’d be pleased to see both Dilma and Temer gone — and that they want a new election to decide on a replacement.
“Really”? No answer required.
“Love it (…)” We don’t need to convince anyone. If your political views are not embraced, well then, find a place where you can bask in social justice and equality such as the countries suggested above.
“Aren’t (…)” My dear Dough, we the people have first and foremost respect what is written in the CONSTITUTION and not cater to what polls say. Aside from this simple fact that keeps the country together, Datafolha is not what most intelligent people would call a reliable source.
Be happy and celebrate freedom!
Either you’re a full-fledged fascist moron, or you really need to improve your English before posting in that language — or both.
I could never be a fascist which is an offspring of the marxist ideology. Only a marxist can be a fascist. If you haven’t read Antonio Gramsci please do not bother to answer this one.
Please get your facts straight.
Be happy!
I think he’s “a full fledged fascist moron.” Your first instinct was my first instinct.
Kids.
It is bad taste to call a conservative a “fascis”t or any other offspring of the marxist ideology.
If you haven’t read Antonio Gramsci, please do not bother to reply.
It is sad that in these days there are fellows who waste their lives preaching marxist bullshit.
Before you call anyone else a fascist please watch “The Soviet Story” available on youtube. Surely it will be good for you and prevent you from doing injustice to others on account of your current ignorance.
Best,
Happy life!
“. . . a ‘fascist’ or any other offspring of the marxist ideology.”
Not a political science major, eh?
“Not a political science major, eh?”
Thank you for that, Doug! But, unfortunately, our media had a major role on making ‘fascists’ not seeing themself as ‘fascists’. They really think they know it all and that any other way of thinking is idiotic.
That’s very clear when people mix Marx with progressism…
I guess you are another victim of Gramscism and have no clue of Hitlers formation.
The problem with the left is that most usefull idiots that profess the ideology have a shallow education due to their laziness.
Go back to school and study a bit of history. I recommended a video in the last post since your next comment was kind od obvious to me. As I said before, on account that most leftists are lazy and believe what they hear and repeat tonthemselves instead of studying, I figured you would rather watch a movie than go to the library.
Freedom rules!
Typical PT supported response. Screams for tolerance but can’t stand a different opinion.
Once you thing different, the attacks are personal and no more in a healthy discussion of ideas and opinions. If you think his English or mine is bad, go ahead and wrigh it in prefect portugues…. At least he has a little bit of culture and knows a couple of languages….
Dear Depressed Stalin,
As a Brazilian, I feel that your comment is, even if that is not your intention, more likely an attempt to reduce even more our access to information. I suggest you to go ahead and read the piece of the ombudsman of Folha, a leading right-leaning newspaper in Brazil, denouncing the apocalypse of our journalism. The only problem is that it is in Portuguese.
I will also take the opportunity to clarify that the majority of Brazilians 54 millions voted for this president. So, that is the voice of the streets, tallied, in a validated process, rather than a “who shouts louder” kind of contest. We are trying to build a stable democracy in Brazil.
Please get more informed about what is really going on, and how limited our access is to high quality journalism. Please also notice that the Workers Party historically follows a “third wave” Blair-like kind of pact between workers and rentists in the Brazilian society. Any far-left groups were expelled in the eighties. A bit more of Brazilian history could help to illuminate this conversation without the same kind of polarization common sense do not support.
Thank you very much, Mr. Glennwald, for the tremendous service to our nation, allowing us to have access to information that is precise and direct from the main source.
Best regards,
Capitu
Dear Capitu,
The Workers Party in Brasil has a strong totalitarian program. It is a founding member of the Foro de São Paulo and expects to create the “Patria Grande” as is depicted in the plans of the organization.
Please do not assume that people are uninformed in other countries of the far left plans of the workers party and the satelite smaller parties.
The world hopes to see people like Lula who said that Venezuela had too much democracy in jail and that the individual rights of all citizens are protected.
We are fed up with the lies of these socialist parties.
Live free or die!
Dear Depressed,
It is very surprising to not have you reason on the third way Blair model that has been in course for the last 13 years. Check the World Bank Reports. You could also read a venerable neoliberal such as Prof. Bresser-Pereira, a founder of PSDB, the neoliberal party, discussing and praising overall the actual development model. The Lula-Dilma model is called “distributivist” with a basic neoliberal pact. One main distinction is that it is not social conservative, but it is fiscal conservative.
I also find very surprising that you disregard the BRICS project, the Mercosul and Unasul. The project of a continental union is not much different than the European Union. Maybe you don’t like that project as well.
We are not fighting the dictatorship as in 64. Nobody is conspiring, working for totalitarian programs. We live in different times. The debate on democracy overflows from nation-state projects only, to blocks/regions. Brazil is the largest country in Latin-America and has responsibilities to its population and also to give the example in keeping a stable democracy. The propaganda machine that trolls away unveridical totalitarian histories do not recognize the facts of Mercosul, and it’s requirement for democratic rule for membership. Thus, your conspiracy fears and mercosul realities are antithetical.
In sum, the genuine desire of most Brazilians, after a three decade military totalitarian dictatorship, is for freedom and development under solid democratic institutions, with solidarity, respect for human rights, understanding of diversity and inclusion.
I would hope that you engage more in the future in the discussion of information with more historical detachment, if I may suggest.
I admire the New Hampshire’s impetus represented by Paine’s “live free or die” in the American Revolution. For us, “Live free or die” can be translated as a strong, unyielding defense of democracy and rule of law today, that allows for individuals to have a say, and not have taken that right usurped. Democracy. We cannot have enough of it. Nor of high quality information.
Capitu
Really? Are you completely insane or just trolling? Lula said Venezuela had too much democracy? When? The PT have a totalitarian program? They want to create ‘Patria Grande’? What they want to create is a strong commercial and political cooperation bloc in Latin America, like the EU. Would you call the EU totalitarian? Don’t make me laugh! Now, what do you want ? For us to isolate ourselves.
Yes, Brazilian s took the streets against corruption and Dilma in huge numbers. BUT her supporters took the streets, stages, schools, etc in MUCH bigger numbers , the mefia just dont show thst. And: the green yellow activists disappear from the streets as the impeachment ( the white coup) went on and they not complain or manifest on other corruption scandals like the proven ones ( like 45 million dollars in the Swiss banks) against the former Congress president of the Congress.
I was in Brazil during most of March and April, at the peak of the protests. There were no millions of PT supporters in the streets, but there were millions in the streets demanding their removal. In fact, it was proven that the few PT supporters who did manage to protest where actually being paid by the PT to do so. When PT supporters did show up, they typically tried to create chaos, though it was not uncommon for angry crowds to beat them up. Meanwhile, the protests against Dilma surpass anything I have ever seen. And I was on Avenida Paulista at the apex of the street protests against president Collor, years ago. Please take you leftist lies somewhere els.
The “they chose the green and yellow”…
I saw thousands of those green and yellow shirts on Sampa’s streets too, and knew some of the people adorning them — each one of them a complete ignoramus in the area of their own country’s history, and clueless to the fact they were screaming for more corruption, not less.
I saw a lot of camisas de futebol being worn by people who don’t want to know very much beyond what Globo screams at them. I saw some corporate logo wearing folk too — could have been for sponsoring a recent foot race, or a coup. I didn’t ask.
I also noticed there is nothing on the front page of today’s (Sunday) online Folha de S. Paulo about Lava Jato. What’s up with that? I guess that’s suddenly become a boring subject in Brazil. Hmm. It’s all so predictable.
Today’s (Monday) top headline in Fohla de S. Paulo:
“Em gravacao, Juca sugere pacto para deter Lava Jato”
Juca disse para ao aliado do PMDB: “Tem que mudar o governo para poder estancar essa sangria.”
(‘You have to change the government to be able to stanch the bleeding’ — meaning stop the investigation into PMDB’s and PSDB’s involvment in Car Wash.)
No apologies yet, Folha, but thank you.
I have to “take my hat off” to you. Like all self appointed leftist know-it-all, from your tiny pedestal you proclaim: “each one of them a complete ignoramus in the area of their own country’s history (…)”.
Who the fuck do you think you are to say what people know?
Why don’t you write the truth and let everyone know that the millions in yellow and green were out there fighting for freedom, while the red shirts, the useful idiots paid (R$ 30-300+ shirt + mortadela sandwich) by the corrupt PT, CUT, MST, MSTS and other arms of the Foro de São Paulo were only disrupting the order in favor of the cancerous communists.
I am someone who often tries to find out what people know about coup shit — as LBJ would put it. That’s who the fuck I am. And I did not see any soccer jersey wearing, pot and pan banging morons fighting for freedom. Bitching about their maids, yes, but not freedom. Like you, loud-mouth, they’re demanding more corruption, not less.
News: there is no “coup shit”. Maybe you should talk to people before you “announce” what you think others think.
You say people are demanding “more corruption”. Are you insane?
Here is what I think: You have absolutely no clue of what is going on in Brasil.
How much I’d appreciated if all the press and reporters in this damn country, did a job as outstanding as this one, being sharp on the questions, but aiming, in the end, to show the truth about this gulf of state. I think you have a sight about this country better than most of brazilians.
Congrtatulations Mr.Glenn
Fernando
Thank you Glenn for doing this interview with Dilma Rousseff.
I am very impressed with Dilma as a person and leader.
She did not sell herself short.
My observation is that criminal minds like Tener and Cunha, who collude and conspire to rob the public of power, always at some point visibly display a willingness to take something via cleverly crafted means, and good people need to believe what they see and hear and not allow the clutter of the con to take them off the truth.
Historic interview.
Glenn is an excellent interviewer and Dilma is an excellent interviewee and a polished, convincing politician and exponent of her positions.
Obrigado por este, TI.
Looking forward to Temer’s interview. It would be fun to read.
Something tells me we won’t be hearing or reading that one anytime soon.
Thanks, Glenn!
muito pequena a entrevista :s
When Glen asked about the Terrorist law affecting protesters, and she replied by saying that any abiguity was taken out of the law, and could not be used against protesters, I wondered if Glen had convinced himself that this law could infact be used, and was dangerous to potential protesters.
We didn’t have time to delve into the specific provisions, but the law is absolutely dangerous to protesters and activists generally. I have zero doubt that this “interim” government will see any form of aggressive protesting as a form of terrorism. It’s a horrible, dangerous law she passed – Lula, in a rare moment of public disagreement, explained why very well in his interview with me – and it’s a dark, bitter irony that, shortly after it was passed, it endangers the very people protesting in her defense and in defense of the democratic election she won.
Absolutely, people on social media are already calling for the antiterrorism law tonbe used against MST, MTST, protesters blocking highways and burning tires, etc.
There is a real authoritarian streak running through Brazilian society and this law will be used as an instrument of repression against legitimate discontent and civil disobedience.
Glenn, what about the actions of the “black blocks”? Their violence? Their seizing and wrecking of both private and public properties? Their killing of a fellow press colleague of yours – Santiago Andrade? Aiming a rocket against civilians in the middle of a mass protest?
That was protesting and activism? Or plain and simple terrorism?
Should we revoke all laws concerning terrorism, for the sake of these people being able to keep protesting, regardless of their actions??
Should we still let the MST seize rural properties, expel the owners, threatening them with death, and let them set the crops, the utilities and all the property on fire in the name of land reform? Should the MST being able to act as an army, with outlawed weaponry, as so proudly Stedile, Lula and others claims?
Should we still let the MTST seize unoccupied habitational properties, fight the owners, and damage and takeover the properties, in the name of wealth distribution?
Should we still let protestors occupy and block roads, setting fire on nearby cars and tires? Preventing the people’s right to move around, preventing let’s say, an ambulance getting to the hospital? In the name of God knows what? Maybe against the coup?
Are these cases of activism you are concerned under the terrorism law?
Hey hey hey, my man Glen Humbled by the President of Brasil.
What?
What does that mean? Was there some interview you watched other than the one posted?