When Hillary Clinton’s son-in-law sought funding for his new hedge fund in 2011, he found financial backing from one of the biggest names on Wall Street: Goldman Sachs chief executive Lloyd Blankfein.
The fund, called Eaglevale Partners, was founded by Chelsea Clinton’s husband, Marc Mezvinsky, and two of his partners. Blankfein not only personally invested in the fund, but allowed his association with it to be used in the fund’s marketing.
The investment did not turn out to be a savvy business decision. Earlier this month, Mezvinsky was forced to shutter one of the investment vehicles he launched under Eaglevale, called Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity, after losing 90 percent of its money betting on the Greek recovery. The flagship Eaglevale fund has also lost money, according to the New York Times.
There has been minimal reporting on the Blankfein investment in Eaglevale Partners, which is a private fund that faces few disclosure requirements. At a campaign rally in downtown San Francisco on Thursday, I attempted to ask Hillary Clinton if she knew the amount that Blankfein invested in her son-in-law’s fund.
Watch the video:
After repeated attempts on the rope line, I asked the Clinton campaign traveling press secretary Nick Merrill, who said, “I don’t know, has it been reported?” and said he would get in touch with me over email. I sent the question but have not received a response back.
The decision for Blankfein to invest in Hillary Clinton’s son-in-law’s company is just one of many ways Goldman Sachs has used its wealth to forge a tight bond with the Clinton family. The company paid Hillary Clinton $675,000 in personal speaking fees, paid Bill Clinton $1,550,000 in personal speaking fees, and donated between $250,000 and $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation. At a time when Goldman Sachs directly lobbied Hillary Clinton’s State Department, the company routinely partnered with the Clinton Foundation for events, even convening a donor meeting for the foundation at the Goldman Sachs headquarters in Manhattan.
Mezvinsky, who married Chelsea in 2010, previously worked at Goldman Sachs and started his fund along with two other former employees of the investment bank. Securities and Exchange Commission disclosures show that Eaglevale required new investors to put down a minimum of $2 million.
Clinton has dodged questions about her relationship with Goldman Sachs throughout the campaign. In January, we were the first to ask Clinton if she would release the transcripts of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. She responded by laughing and turning away. Since our question, other media outlets, including the New York Times editorial board, have called on Clinton to release the transcripts.
Clinton at times tried to conflate the money she received with campaign finance donations to Barack Obama — though the issues are separate; Obama never personally profited from paid speeches before running for president.
Clinton most recently said she would only release the transcripts if Bernie Sanders and her Republican opponents also reveal transcripts of their paid speeches. Disclosures show Sanders made $1,867.42 from two paid speeches and a television appearance last year, and donated the money to a nonprofit in Vermont that assists low-income families.
[This post has been updated with more information about Eaglevale.]
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Why is everyone complaining about it? It is all “constitutional”, just like the second amendment. The corporates just need to pay their corporate wh***s to enact laws to suit !
the vampire squid wants more blood
the blood from theft of homes and investors fraud and bank fraud arent enough
misses cruz said her hsuband could help them
hillary said she could help them and promised them her first born
now they want to eat your first born
Yes, lets vote for the candidate who has deep connections with those who nearly destroyed our economy. Those who the tax payers had to bail out. Those who gave out huge bonuses after the bailout. Those who own our politicians.
We must make more history by electing the first woman President. This trumps her war hawkishness, her lying, her past record, her corruption and her close relationships with Wall Street, banks and multinational corporations.
America deserves what we get. Whether it’s Hillary or Trump. Both will bebad for the working class and the country. The 1% and the above entities rejoice.
It shows us what class she and her daughter belongs Oligarchy.
You vote for Hillary you vote oligarchy and a paycheck for her needy son-in law.
Happy? Welcome to American Democracy for Oligarchs benefit.
I love the fact that every time Hillary sees your face she feels dread.
The disclosure of Hillary’s extortion racket might be more damaging than her son in law deal. That is what the FBI is investigating on the cloud for Bill & Hillary’s sever. Arms deals came with an add on for the sale in the form of a donation to the Clinton Foundation.
Bernie as a paid entertainer? Bill Maher pays his guests?
Senate Rule 36: “Honorarium is a payment for any speech, article, or appearance. Federal law bans Members, officers, or employees from receiving any honorarium. 5 U.S.C. app. 4 § 501(b). The Committee does not have any authority to waive this ban.”
Can anybody clarify this?
Maher pays Union minimum, but I can’t imagine that the pay couldn’t be donated, could you?
Green Party’s Jill Stein on the Feminist Case Against Hillary Clinton
Also see:
“I am not cool with Donald Trump and I am not cool with Hillary Clinton” : Jill Stein unloads on both parties, a rigged system, and Dems’ Bernie “sabotage.”
Hillary Clinton exudes that smugness of the Wall Street-owned candidate who knows that the corporate media and its owners are behind her – who cares what the people think, let them eat cake, I’m one of the elite – it just drips off her, the knowing chuckle, the sneering condescension – it’s part of her personality, brought about by a lifetime of inside connections for her and her family to wealthy interests like Goldman Sachs.
Furthermore, she has no concrete plans on practical matters – for example, what about America’s crumbling infrastructure? Roads, bridges, public transit systems, water supplies, electrical grids – all are in need of massive public works project, but she wants to dump money into NATO, foreign conflicts with China, and disastrous Middle Eastern regime change projects – look, that money is needed at home. Obama has failed here too – he wants a $1 trillion nuclear weapons program? We need a $1 trillion infrastructure program, not more wasteful military spending that lines the pockets of Wall Street-owned arms dealers.
Similarly, it’s obvious that the neoliberal trade policies of the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations spanning the past three decades have been a disaster for American jobs, and are a major factor in the huge gap between rich and poor. Shutting all that down is an agenda shared by Trump and Sanders, and has the potential of rebooting the American manufacturing sector, which would benefit the poor and struggling middle class groups all across the United States.
The fact is, Clinton is run by Wall Street and will do whatever they tell her to, no matter how much damage that agenda does to the American middle class – and her militaristic foreign policy is just as heartless as her domestic indifference to poverty. She just wants the Goldman Sach – JP Morgan crowd to like her; she figures that’s how the system works, and she’s a player.
Just let me know when you want me to disagree with you because, from what I see, you’ve pretty well nailed it.
Omitting Bernie Sanders, this election illustrates for the first time something all Americans are able to witness without the bias that’s attached to party allegiances.
That in fact there is no longer a difference between parties.
Hedge funds are awesome. But now every monarch will want one.
Keep up the great reporting and digging Lee. Hopefully you will be able to publish a long piece that ties it all together, but in the interest of timeliness, I’m glad that you’re publishing the responses (or nonresponses as it may be) during your investigations.
Great video, great work, sir. I believe the conclusion here w/ other info is that Clinton is perhaps more a neo con type politician.
Would it be twisted to think that Clinton is actually more Rep. and Trump may be more Dem.?
Aside: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood has noticed something that only sorta whisped pass me as I read TI recently. Who is the SuperPAC that sends out trolls, guy works for both sides. All those listed are probably paid comments.
That’s no one freaking BUSINESS, We see double standards, where is TRUMP TAXES PAPERS, HIS BUSINESS DOCUMENTS THAT HE DID TURN IN DON’T match.
We don’t see the media pushing TRUMP AND SANDER WE THINK SANDER TURNED TWO YEARS IN TRUMP NOTHING YET YOU, WE SEE Harassment.
It is our business because Goldman is a criminal enterprise and Hillary may be choosing who runs the Justice Department.
And, btw, “Pepsi is worse” wouldn’t be a good slogan for Coke either.
Goldman Sachs has used its wealth to forge a tight bond with the Clinton family. The company paid Hillary Clinton $675,000 in personal speaking fees, paid Bill Clinton $1,550,000 in personal speaking fees, and donated between $250,000 and $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
SO which way is it?? they are such good speakers?? OR the company made so much money its charity?? OR buying future favors??
That to me – – – makes all concerned dishonest
Hilary Clinton started her political career forum shopping for the easiest place to get elected to public office. New York LOST. She moved to NY and ran for U.S.$enator.
She ran on a pledge of wanting to be the best $enator from NY – that NY has ever seen…
Further stating it was “the only job she wanted” and that it was “not a stepping stone”
Elected and while serving SHE went against her constituents who 70 – 30 told her not to authority George Bush to be able to preemptively start WAR (IRAQ). The QUOTE of seeing secret documents – she announced she voted to give George Bush authorization
>> She then tried her first run for the presidency ( on the not a stepping stone platform)… Senator John McCain – Senator Barrack Obama – and Senator Hilary Clinton. NOTE: none of them resigned their seats to ensure representation for their constituents….”A TIME OF CHANGE??” BUT with the failure of her campaign – SHE LOST – – BUT did not return to the only job she said she wanted.
>> $ecretary of $tate – confirmed by both parties in a time when the Republicans blocked all appointments. Something was said about “NO PRID PRO QUO”.
BUT look at the confirmation hearings for Loretta Lynch Attorney General of the United States – BLOCKED and DELAYED for a NEW RECORD…..
>> BENGHAZI ?? Private E-mail server ? to save all correspondence for her presidential library ?? Wall Street Speeches ?? Endorsements to ensure “NO CHANGE – maintain the status quo” Endorsed by the D.N.C. ( the party against the people??)
Another hit piece of the Red Guard and self-appointed keepers of all that is progressive. Here’s something perhaps you BernieBots should keep in mind should he yank the nomination from Clinton (and don’t think Trump won’t run it on a continuous loop down in Littl Havana in Miami): https://www.buzzfeed.com/meganapper/sanders-in-1985-sandinista-leader-impressive-castro-totally?utm_term=.kqkPvb5KD#.rtvNBz9Gr
Master warlock kissinger, sponsor of the witch hillary, is now grooming his next victim for another round of genocidal sacrifices. How is you fit into this witches brew?
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/29/samantha-power-to-receive-prize-from-henry-kissinger-whom-she-once-harshly-criticized/
Do you actually believe it hurts us to be called Communists?
look at today’s titles: Vulture Capitalist – – Socialist – – Communist – WAR-MONGER – – TRAITOR
think of truth and what happened to it….WE the PEOPLE no longer have a free market economy…..The FED pumps money into Wall Street – and derivatives are still looming over our heads….foreign investors are paid before american investors….. The bailout – – austerity?? The London Whale and where did the money go….AN ACCOUNTING FROM THE PENTAGON??
NO FREE TRADE……NO FREE MARKET ECONOMY
interesting BUT….Castro did do some good things…..education….medical…
and yes some other things- ending the whore houses & the casinos. You want to paint a one-sided picture?? Why because our government disagrees with his.
Washington does not like people to stand up..DO AS YOU ARE TOLD AND SIT DOWN…the embargo accomplished what?? if you think its communist against democracy – Iran was a secular democracy – AGAINST WHOSE WISHES????
Hillary and her defenders have been attempting to use the red scare tactic against Bernie this whole campaign and it hasn’t worked.
Trump won’t have any more success with it.
Funny how attacking the Left (aka the Democratic base) is something Hillary thinks is politically practical too… proof that she abandoned the principles the Democratic Party used to defend.
Wall Street coddling and warmongering isn’t progressive by any definition.
I’m beginning to wonder if Trump entered the race just so that Americans would settle for Queen Hillary.
This is a minutia that unfortunately shows how HC is unable to deal with the media and therefore is acting in a somehow deceitful manner. She could have said: I do not know. It is none of my business (which it is probably the case), and it makes sense, but acting the way she did by ignoring, then sending a so-called press attache with body guards in the background does not look good. This is how delivery loses the message (that I believe she has right). So unfortunate.
Your assertion that a multimillion dollar investment is a small detail and that her “message” is right (no pun intended I’m sure) despite her inability to “deal with the media” comes across as an unfortunate attempt at PR.
Self Destiny is a matter of OWNERSHIP.
To OWN YOUR DESTINY you must own your future and life support thereof.
Wallstreet loan schemes have robbed Americans of their future.
They are thieves.
They steal by raising prices to force loans to force indebtedness.
CRUSHING THE PRICES by BANKRUPTING WALLSTREET will BREAK THE CHAINS OF DEBT.
simple is as simple is.
#BDS
this is a b.s. comment that has nothing to do with #BDS which focuses on human rights issues in Israel and Palestine.
#BDS wallstreet, get it? Wallstreet is feeding like a vampire-squid on the totality of American productivty.
eu contraire….
Everything is connected to the complexity of relationship dependencies today in the 21st century.
Guess what? Hillary is losing bigtime….
why? because her loyalty to her wallstreet hubby is on frontstreet.
Markets eyeing Clinton’s slumping campaign warily: Analyst
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/29/markets-eyeing-clintons-slumping-campaign-warily-analyst.html
Hillary is a nice person. Nice to talk to. Nice to listen to. But she is not what America needs at this time.
have a nice day.
Bernie is what America needs.
“Hillary is a nice person. Nice to talk to. Nice to listen to.”
She is a corporate puppet and a shrill, lying harpy that defends a sexual predator and attacks his victims. How anyone cannot see this is beyond comprehension.
I really miss the old days when the DOJ went after real bad guys
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag264/tarihistory/mabarkeraraniyor_zpse185af84.jpeg
instead of protecting them. The world is upside down. I have seen too much.
I know it is my time to go.
no.
not your time to go.
it is your time to rescue the future for your resurrection to life.
take time to write down a new presription for the future.
you do own your future regardless of what the thieves tell you.
NEITHER BE BLUFFED NOR BULLIED.
Unplug and go fishing instead.
I went fishing two weeks ago and caught a 2 meter pike eel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_eel
look up images and I have to tell you, this beast almost won the fight when I got him on shore.
Fishing is sometimes very dangerous
http://sportsmasher.com/2016/02/16/strange-creature-resembling-crocodile-and-dolpin-washes-up-on-australia-beach/
We were protesting NIKETOWN in Chicago as Nike relies on tens – hundreds of thousands of young females in slave-wage conditions – during the DNC in Chicago in 1996 and guess who showed up as the police were escorted out us protesters?
Chelsea Clinton had decided to shop at NIKETOWN right when we have been exposing their use of sweatshop slave labor of young females.
I was hoping Chelsea would have a “mind bomb” experience to quote GREENPEACE – and she would open up to realize that being an elite CIA-drug kind of mafia imperial genocide family is not the way to go.
Looks like it didn’t happen.
Não, não vai disser mais TODO o mundo ficou sabendo que tem segredo entre Clinton e Grandes Bancos .!!!! Coisa OPACA !!! Esta informação e’ suficiente para identificar-se com 1% da “elite”
Me thinks, ”Hil-liar-y” loses whether she wins her operatic Democratic Primary or not, here is the rub, she can not be anointed by her supporters until the ”Fat Lady” (FBI email investigation) sings.
American politics is starting to resemble the HBO series Game of Thrones. Hillary marries her daughter off to an alliance of banking interests to secure political support for her bid at global domination.
Mother of Dragons or Catelyn Stark?
Is Trump Jaime Lannister?
Who is Bernie?
Stay tuned.
Bernie is Jon Snow of course ;) . A trouble maker with a strong moral compass.
Ok sounds fun, this follows the “force the analogy” technique, e.g thinking of two main criteria, good vs evil and pro vs anti establishment …
Robert Baratheon – Bill Clinton
Cersei Lannister – Hillary Clinton
Tywin Lannister – Dick Cheney
Jamie Lannister – Tony Blair
Tyrian Lannister – Karl Rove
Joffrey Baratheron/Lannister – George W Bush
Republicans…
Stannis Baratheon – Ted Cruz
Renly Baratheon – Rand Paul
Roose Bolton – John Boehner
Ramsey Snow/Bolton – Paul Ryan
Balon Greyjoy – Mitt Romney
Theon Greyjoy – Marco Rubio
Euron Greyjoy – Donald Trump
The Damphair – Bob Dole
Hodor – Louis Gohmert
Democrats…
Need Stark – Obama
Catelyn Start – Elizabeth Warren
Robb Stark – Bernie Sanders
Danaerys Targaryen – Taylor Swift
Aemon Targaryan – Ralph Nader
Bran Stark – Al Gore
All in the best possible taste!
Equating Chelsea to a dragon is an insult to dragons everywhere.
I think Hillary is closest in spirit to Gregor Clegane, The Mountain, a stupid vicious, brutal thug for empire, who exists only to create and wage war and serve power, with a little bit of Ramsey Bolton thrown in “We came. We Saw. He died. Hahahahaha…” with her penchant for sodomy with bayonet, and murder. Hoping that a Red Viper will appear and stick a spear in her and force her to admit to rape and mass murder. But I ain’t holding my breath. Oberon had his head crushed.
For more on references to high fantasy and our sick situation, see
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/06/hillarys-foreign-policy-speech-queen-galadriel-before-her-magic-mirror/
But Galadriel went out of her way to avoid contact and corruption by the ring…
The Billionaire Funded Affluenza crowd still complaining about billionaire funding, this time of a son-in-law… The Intercept’s criticism of billionaire funding is the lefty version of Trump being a populist for the people… Y’all must have your big billionaire money on the cattle car stocks which go through the moon when you get your populist billionaire Trump elected.
Complacence with Hillary’s corruption and fear of Trump are hardly reasons to vote for her.
And, btw, the Democratic Party claims to represent the Left (the Democratic base), so bashing lefties is just further proof of how dishonest Hillary and her paid defenders truly are.
Stick your fear mongering where the sun don’t shine.
It’s not a winning tactic.
Why is it hypocritical for billionaire funded people to accuse other billionaire funded people of corruption on the grounds that they are funded by billionaires? That’s a question that most 4th graders could answer but considering the anal retentive nature of your remark, you are not there yet. Let me know when you arrive, if you ever do. By then you will be swept up with Trump, who like you, enjoys bathroom humor.
Why are you pretending like your comment is a response to what I wrote?
And why do you think it was humor?
Oh, right… evasion and fake laughter is always Hillary’s response when challenged, and her paid supporters can’t help but emulate their boss while believing it to be socially acceptable… when it isn’t.
I am pleased to see you admit that Hillary is a corrupt hypocrite funded by billionaires.
My fellow anal retentive third graders say admitting it is the first step toward recovery.
Just one comment on the NY Times. If it’s Editorial Board had any ethical fibers among its members at all, it would have been calling out on its front page, for weeks now, for Hillary to release the transcripts of her paid for profits speeches. I have no respect whatsoever any longer for anything about the NYTIMES.
the NYT has really become a propagandist mouthpiece for wallstreet.
“become”?
i was being unnecessarily polite
also didnt want to spend the time building a case
all the news that fits…
Wouldn’t want to get impaled with and abraded by any of those ethical fibers.
I keep on demanding they print it on softer paper….
Love your efforts and probing into this candidate’s real activities, Lee Fang. Thank you both, Lee and Henrik!
Hillary Clinton SUFFERING POST-CONCUSSION SYNDROME
http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/physician-warns-hillary-suffering-post-concussion-syndrome/
More stonewalling. And the Clinton campaign doesn’t seem to understand the distrust members of her own party feel about her ability to put the interests of the working class ahead of the moneyed class.
oh those candidates, they say things and then they wont say things.
So she received a lot of money, her son in law benefited. whoop dee friggin doo. I almost forgot the country was a mindless rotting scumbag hypocritical junk pile.
Maybe the infamous Clinton connections will keep our allies from attacking us. Who knows what will stop the Republicans.
Gee, money from wall street, whose business model is fraud, with a moral grounding in radioactivity and climate chaos? Gee, lucky piles of money for her daughter’s hubby? Gee, we’re just a junk pile nation? Hardly a constructive critique, I must say. Republicans? Where? Oh, you must mean the RINOs. Savages is more to the truth. One person, one vote, I say. Corporate pay-to-play Dems like Mr. & Mrs. Clinton, and (Debbie Wasserman Schultz), are undermining democracy with their constant attention toward their Super P.A.C. buds of the 0.1%. Even the recent emergence as oligarchics, the Clinton pay-to-play family, are obviously okay with their fraud-based corporate campaign contributors.
Giving attention to this kind of information during an election is supposed to influence your vote but its not particularly telling to me. The system was damaged before this election arrived.
You’re not going to change the way a game is played after its started so what would be the purpose of outrage if its legal? I suppose you could ask, should it be illegal. The time I could see some purpose in giving this attention would be before or directly after election season. Right now it just strikes me as being jerked around and/or serving the people that pay the data miners to create an acceptable but also always divisive brand for political leverage to achieve in the future the exact opposite.
I don’t care that Trump is a billionaire or what Hillary gets paid for speeches or what candidate anyone says I should think is more of a villain. I don’t like the choices but these are the people and the system that we have to work with now.
And for my positive suggestion for the day, personally I would at least like to see more attention and questions given to what the candidates say they want to do for the country on their websites without the villain component. Details.
You don’t care?
Many people do care.
The whole “you go to war with the army you’ve got” shtick was offensive when Rummy said it and Hillary voted for it, and it’s still offensive.
We can do better, and there’s no time like the present to debate the issue.
Here ya go:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
We got issues and positions. What are you talking about?
Ya gotta love the people who try to guess what The Donald will be like. Don’t they get it even now? The Republicans don’t hire leaders to be president, they hire barkers to stand out in front of their tent and pull in the marks. They’re used to working with an actor who reads the lines off his teleprompter, and when he goes senile, they are used to working without him, or they can work with an heir who doesn’t know anything. Doesn’t matter. You want to psychoanalyze somebody and try to figure out what makes him tick, try a marionette. Some marionettes have real personalities — unlike Republican presidents.
Everyonehas a REAL personality though we may or not like them– the old “Je pense donc je suis” thing?
WRONG! I’ll take the bait. Mrs Clinton can lead in the primary south, all she wants! lol Go for it. Bernie wins in polls, for the past two months, by substantial margins over Trump across the nationa and the states. But, it would be a gross exaggeration, or one might say an outright lie, that she can “beat” anyone outside the rigged bubble that DNC is living in. The DNC’s “anointed” one, Mrs. Clinton is trailing Trump in the latest polling, culminating in a continuous months-long, slide backward for weeks and months, now. She cannot win without the “Bernie Movement”. “Crooked Hillary”, is now her moniker, given by Trump, who by the way runs neck-n-neck with Hillary in polling “negatives” – the highest in recent polling history. So, Clinton “beats”? No. Nada. Not to happen. Only trickery and lying and maybe stealing can keep Mrs Clinton’s Super Delegates in line, if Bernie wines Yuge on June 7. If not, 4 years of chaotic corporate pillage of Earth, yada, yada, ya.
This is what i dont get.
Hillary wins the southern states where she cannot win in a primary.
Hillary loses the northern states where she cannot win in the main.
DWS thinks Hillary is a win.
blind leading the blind?
I must be tired. Am I reading this bass awards, lol? Mrs C cannot win the general against Donald, period; especially in the South.
I want Free Trade reversed. It was created via deliberate lobbying and crafting of government policy on Wall Street and K Street; it can be reversed or at least made more fair by Main Street.
This is my #1 issue. On this issue Hillary is utterly incompatible. She spent most of her entire Sec of State, when not lying to Russia about intentions in Libya and helping ISIS by destabilizing Assad, travelling around lobbying hard for TPP and the Columbia Trade Deal, which she had promised in the 2008 campaign not to support as it was (yet as Sec State she did exactly that).
#2 is of course bellicosity and warmongering. Hillary has supported every intervention since she was on the national stage. She is indistinguishable from McCain or Graham or Kasich on her Aggressive Russophobia, Saudi buttkissing, and willingness to employ coups and military interventions every where at any time. I believe Hillary is more dangerous than Trump.
#3 is civil liberties. Hillary’s track record on Gay Marriage was awful, she only changed after a plurality of the public was in favor and several states had already recognized it. She’s a Patriot Act lover.
Exactly the reverse. That’s my take. Hillary loses, period! Or Bernie wins and we keep our country out of the clutches of wall street. Happy Memorial weekend. Bye.
I’ve crunched the numbers.
When Bernie wins California and Hillery claims the DNC mantle with big wig party Super-delegates (because *she*won’t* win enough “pledged delegates” to clinch the nomination), Bernie should, not a moment too soon, throw off the yoke of DNC/Party oppression once and for all, join up with Jill Stein (or coax Kucinich out of retirement.) and cruise to victory together on the TuckFhat party … in a #landslide.
*of course, Bernie could drop the D-pretense now as far as I’m concerned (he’s not ‘democrat’, just ‘running’ as one, anyway.) … but the exposure of beating Hillary in California could prove valuable in the general.
Sanders, I believe, is as close to an FDR democrat as anybody else…and CERTAINLY closer than the Clintoon buffoons.
If this Trump trend upward continues in June, Hillary will have to make a hard choice: either come clean with Bernie and renounce the political extortion racket and side with real economic democracy – i.e. supporting the right of everyone to being recognized as being covered by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and its Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights + apologize for all the siding with arms merchants to blast civilians – and to ask for a free vote at the convention, or THE ALTERNATIVE see Trump having the power to order the murder of anyone who he suspects of being a terrorist during the next term. A moment of truth for corporate Democrats.
No one would believe a word of that rebuttal–she can renounce all she wants–people know that when her lips are moving, she’s lying.
My last post was directed to Alan8.
Hillary, you are going everything possible to turn Progressives against you . I am so mad at you.
And Hillary is beating Bernie, especially in the South. Bernie Sanders’ campaign was like an IQ test for America. America didn’t pass.
Alan examine the money – is that what you want…..Bernie isn’t making money off the campaign…Where are his speeches?? Goldman Sachs isn’t helping him… TRUTH – JUSTICE – The AMERICAN WAY… WHERE is the TRUTH with Hilary?? JUSTICE is examining her e-mails which she is claiming doesn’t matter…….THIS IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY
I agree. I understand what you mean. I support Sanders because I ‘get it.’ If most people really knew how jacked up this thing was, they would have no reason not to support Sanders given all options available at present in this political election cycle. However, if most people really knew how bad things were, the wheels would come off this bus. In this ‘system’ using this systems constructs, there is no reasonable alternative other than Sanders. I think those who are well-read and can connect many dots into a broad, coherent synthesis understand this.
More like a Wasserman (Schultz) test. America didn’t pass. We’re now in the terminal stages.
But a merciful God has given us the choice between sticking with what we’ve got, or going with a case of untreated septicemic bubonic plague instead.
Happy anniversary to Jane and Bernie Sanders!
LIVE Stream: Bernie Sanders Rally in Santa Maria, California – Just started – here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBjp-2WdWaU
Bakersfield Rally will be at 6PM PST – here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7gW4qqLgO4
Hang “the witch”
Damn – sorry there isn’t a thumbs up button
I am pleased to see one or two or so more, new attack “comments”. lol – Since yesterday, no less – seems our on the ball, Indy community likes coming here, BRAVO! LEE & HENRIK! This crew is perty good. I especially am amazed at the swift retorts replied to the trolls – history in the making. Like visiting a virtual “Knights of the Round Table”, minus the king and chosing the pen over the “might is right” paradigm. Been a great time, adios from this ol hippy. And again, Happy B’day 80 to Wavy! lol
Intercept, YOU ROCK! I see a self-organizing, phenomenon on these pages.
Lee and Henrik–GOOD work!
She won’t say because it’s none of your business.
The idea that she owes any such explanation is more Benghazi!!!! Nothing she says will change the minds of her detractors and as usual, the whole idea is just to somehow delegitimize her with trivial bullpuckey.
We just need more hearings so we can find something, anything, to bother Hillary with.
After 25 years of witch hunts that have amounted to diddly, you’d think fatigue would set in from carrying those torches and pitchforks for so long
Haha turned up diddley?? She’s been caught lying countless times bahahaha there’s a goddamn video on YouTube called Hillary lies for 13 minutes straight haha she landed under “sniper fire”, just got caught in a year long lie about her emails…keep drinking that kool-aid; Jim Jones would be proud
All in the -clinton- Family
A goldman-sacks production
Directed by debbie wasserman-schults
Starring hillary clinton
Nice!!
And HRC shouldn’t. It isn’t any of her business. It is not her money, it is not her transactions. She has no right to know and even less to share.
The notion that
“Obama never personally profited from paid speeches”
is ridiculously bogus.
My guess is that we are supposed to accept the (false) premise
that because the money went to his campaign coffers
we are supposed to believe that the money was not personally
beneficial to Obama because it is not direct income.
The problem with that fake separation is that it ASSUMES
that if Obama had no income beyond the money from speeches
he would have seen no personal benefit from the money he
depended upon from his speeches.
Ridiculously legalistic twisting of facts is hardly good journalism.
Obama may not have had some bogus “foundation” like Clinton,
but to assume that he did not personally benefit is a
absurdly ridiculous denial of reality.
“a” should be an.
Geez. Grammar police on patrol.
Yes
Yes all politicians “pesonally benefit” from giving speeches (unless they put their foot in their mouth); I think the article is about “personally profiting” which is something different, isn’t it?
The fact that Clinton is in neck deep in the legalized bribery system that Congress is so well known for, which includes donations to private foundations, ridiculous payments for personal appearances, and lucrative corporate positions for the children of politicians – that’s the point of this article.
Notably, the corporate media almost never covers this kind of corruption; I think it’s great that Fang & Moltke are doing so at the Intercept. Why doesn’t the New York Time and the Washington Post – with much greater resources – make this kind of coverage a staple of their reporting on political campaigns in an election year?
This by the way is another reason why Sanders has so much support; he’d not involved in this sleazy legalized bribery system and gets his campaign money in the form of many small donations from individuals.
I know what the point of the article is and it is rather
stupid to take a detour from that point in an effort to
portray Obama as some sort of better corporate creep
when he is actually just a slightly different version of
the same corrupt corporate deviance. If anything, Obama
is better at telling bald-faced lies.
Do you really think his kids aren’t going to end up in the same
kind of dominating corporate class role as Clinton’s daughter?
As for the Sanders campaign, when they sell out and promote
Clinton as a supposed necessary choice, he will become one more
in an ever-growing-line of democrat loser footnotes who helped
PREVENT a third party challenge to the bipartisan corruption
while (inadvertently???) channeling all those dollars from individual
donations into the service of what he is supposedly opposing.
The democrats have already begun trying to blame those of
us who are disgusted by both Trump and Clinton for the outcome
of the election if Trump wins.
Sanders could beat Trump, but the democrats will not allow
Sanders to get the nomination and when Trump beats Clinton
as it is very likely to happen, the democrats will not take credit
or blame
for their role in making it happen.
The democrats and republicans are too slimy for anything to stick to them.
If you want to look into Obama’s track record on shady dealings go back to 2007 when Warren Buffet threw his money behind Obama; his other big sponsor was Exelon, the massive investor-owned utility that continues to get sweetheart deals from Obama.
“Buffet is Obama meal ticket”, Chicago Tribune, 2007
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-obama_thuaug16-story.html
You are sorta mean and grumpy and overly literal here– everyone who files a US 1040 Tax Form knows the difference between “personally benefited” and not? Yea, if it is personal income you pay tax on it! In the broader sense does it go to a fund, which help get you elected and that also benefits others in the form of their salaries, buying goods and services, etc, then it is NOT for personal benefit. Goes to private tax id number use, like buying toothpaste, food, or shoes, you must be thinking of B$CEOs income who are indeed tax dodgers?
This Reply was ->Clark NOT Photo! MY booboo!
hillary clinton in a spray can; 99% inert ingredients, 1% active ingredient (goldman sachs)
Crooked Clinton= 99% Goldmansachs,1% Inert ingredients? Backwards type?
Clinton “does have something to hide. Why else refuse to make speeches public or use white noise generators to hide conversations. She’s this years Mitt Romney.”
WSWS: Clinton campaign in crisis over email controversy, declining poll numbers
Graun: Hillary Clinton’s week from hell: can she shake off troubles to take on Trump?
Oh, Gee, Golly Miss Molly……..so near to the end……and now SO FAR AWAY
do not pass go – do not collect two hundred dollars…..LOSER
I should of thought of this much earlier in my lifetime. This country has been being run by criminals that are above the law that….they created. Criminals that, because of the ‘best’ military, can’t be prosecuted by anybody…in the world. Geeezzz, how could have I been so naive? Everyone in the fed are criminals.
Clinton “does have something to hide. Why else refuse to make speeches public or use white noise generators to hide conversations. She’s this years Mitt Romney.”
I don’t get it… Making money by giving speeches to rich bankers stupid enough to pay, makes you corrupt..?? Why, because you won’t release publicly what you said..!? Well doh..!! If you’re just gonna release it publicly, why would the next batch of dopey bankers pay..?? They just need to wait for some self righteous journo to demand it’s public release..!! Presto, no need to pay, just wait for the public version… Or wait, is it just fundamentally wrong to make money giving speeches..?? And having a son in law who maybe isn’t the best investment banker in town disqualifies you from running for president..?? Meanwhile half your country wants trump who inherited his $200m start & seems to think abusing anyone & everyone qualifies HIM for the job… Good luck America you’re gonna need it…
Oh America; what will you do? Elect a crook with significant health problems and get more of the same or a billionaire who lives by situational ethics and is able to fool so many people so often and get who knows what. Frankly, I am terrified and I am not alone. Yes, I know Donald trump is an intelligent man but he has zero actual experience as a politician “he does know how the system works, he buys them as necessary” and he knows how to sell, he beat 15 pro’s. The unknown scares me; Hillary scares me. Bernie is really a moderate by the standards of the rest of the world; c’mmon, do the right thing, please!
Bernie praised Venezuela as a good example of the “true american Dream” a few years back.. So “moderate” you say?
You need to support Trump. Because you need to kill TTIP, you need to curb illegal immigration, you need to stop the chaos. And I’m saying this as a non-American. It’s so blatantly obvious that Trump is the best, or at the very least the lesser evil, choice. Hellary Clinton is a purebred psycopath: a habitual warmongering liar without real empahty who considers others to be mere tools to expolit and then discard. And I’m not just saying that. She is like that. She’s extremely dangerous – not just for the US but the whole World.
but he has zero actual experience as a politician
ahem… all the experienced politicians got us to where we are today.
The unknown scares me
Sure, like dumya we knew and what he knew about wmd. We know politicians? sure, we knew bill clinton after we didn’t know him?
But i am with Bernie or Green Party.
Trump’s an “intelligent man?” My, my, you’ve been fooled, haven’t you? The other stuff you optimistically wrote about Trump is pure fantasy too.
Trump gets to where he is today, fast and good learner. Who needs an old -70yo career dancing politico who is forcefed nutritional and hormonal supplements? Agree that Sanders is theONlY one with proven record to actually care about people, not just immediate pocketable profits!
The whole Clinton family is corrupted. I can’t imagine this woman as president of the US. What are the choices in this election? Trump or Clinton. I will have my imaginary candidate and I will vote for him: Bernie. The other two I will dump them in the toilette and I will flash it a few times to make sure I will never see them again.
I’m not sure how volatile toilette or perfume are for flashing but I would just bury them with copious amounts of salt.
Quicklime would be preferable
Whats going on in the land of make believe today?
These are the “people” in Mr Comeys Intercept Discussion Board neighborhood.
Note HOW FEW regulars there are and HOW MANY new pseudonyms are in play.
Whilst “Commenter” appears to be taking up the slack for herson and his ilk whomever else is achieving much the same effect by generating a score or more new commentors on the fly.
Commenter (current and pervasive)
Eloda Roth
LaNita Jones
A Qui Tam Relator
Odins Acolyte
Juanita Broaddrick’s Upper Lip
aubreyfarmer
Jo Se
John
Mike
Nigel Tolley
Buck
Doan Nonuffin
Johnny 99
noseitall
NJD
JOHN MCBRIDE
Thugless
Bo
lleclair
SFChuck
xLSDx
ForTheRepublic
Yeah ok
Tearunner
J Daniel Staggers
GenEarly
Tom
No Name
Michael
Pragmatic Thinker
Mortimer Zilch
Ronnie
Shut the full cup
Art
Terry Moore
xman Jasonn
Jeff D
Vilonia
flyoverman
Leonidas
SRH
Pilot Dave
John (magnum
Shootit jaz
Berke Zane
CopperheadCSA
suibne
Petunia
billsz
marked man
BayouJac45
amaya jow
TORUS
TPALYA
Barry bin Inhalin
Phil
Shirley Moot
Ed M.
henri b
GO
Ralf T. Dog
Morgs
attl
Bobby Hamer
Mark
Jerry
teddy
LG
That many new commentators for a Grennwald topic with 300 to 500 comments would be unusual.
For a Jenna thread its new territory to be sure.
I hope Goldman Sachs gets hacked and that every penny is gone. After all investments are NOT protected because they are classified as RISKY. That is why there are NO guarantees than can be made with any investment.
Nobody knows better than Goldman Sachs how to created money out of thin air, or how to steal other peoples cash without them knowing you are doing it to them.
Hillary Clinton TRULY represents the thinking of the 1%. What’s good for the goose is NOT good for the gander.
He could have gotten a loan to start a Smoothie Franchise, instead, lets do a HEDGE FUND.
This REEKS of influence we ALL KNOW is present with Hillary Clinton and here best pay Jamie Dimond.
Lloyd….don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer. You see what happens with her emails. Peace
Hilary’s spokesman is a bigger dk than she is…and that what her barking seals want in the whitehouse.
Thanks for staying on this critical issue. We need to link this story all over the place. Important information for voters that you can be sure the likes of Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow etc will not cover.
Link this story everywhere you can
Hillary’s dog I’m also certain eats Alpo, watch when she gets to be president, Alpo will suddenly get a huge tax break. Fang and his side kick should call her out on this one, track her down, confront her, corner her with the camera, get her out of her hole. How much Alpo does Rover eat? Huh, you old witch… If only weren’t still burning women at the stake! and aren’t there some other in-laws that we can use our billionaire’s money to go find somewhere, I mean, let’s run with this story. I too am an Affluenza and I’m psyched because Trump sure won’t affect me and my private school diploma! Invest in the rail cars, baby, double the fortune that you’re sitting on!
hillary is a shill for wallstreet thieves that rob americans, rob investors, steal homes, finance wars….
is that “G” in OMG! mean your god, hillary?
try instead OMH!
A little background for those not born to have lived with this.
Marc Mezvinsky, mother was the deciding vote in the house for Bill Clinton’s tax increase right after he was elected. It cost her her seat so, is payback an arranged marriage.
Not sure if the future father in law could attend the wedding being he was in prison. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/mezvinsky.asp
This candidate will lose us the election. She and bill are too tainted now. If you vote for hillary you are electing trump.
Crooked Clinton has it in the emails!
Bring her to heel! Great work. Now lets being to look at her and Sarkosy’s role in the disaster that is HER Libya.
I’m guessing 90 percent of Americans don’t where Libya is.
in the south of France, the jungle-y part, a little east of Burma, and up and to the left of Tajikistan, right ? Right above Svalbard, in the foothills of the headlands…
Breaking News: BILLIONAIRE FUNDED SITE THAT ATTACKS MONETARY INFLUENCE ABSOLVES THEMSELVES OF MONETARY INFLUENCE WITH THIS AMAZING TRUMPIAN LINE FROM ITS FOUNDER: “He’s the 100th-richest person in the world. He has $9bn, which is an unfathomable sum… [But] I know in my mind that the minute anybody tries to interfere with what I’m doing, that is the minute I will stop doing it.” –Glenn Greenwald.
Hi Hillarybot.
Hi Trumpianbot. Keep working for your master, maybe you have money invested the rail stocks that will get the big boost when the exportation begins: insider trader information: the cattle car stocks will be big!
New to trolling, are you?
http://bluenationreview.com/hillary-supporters-the-media-will-not-be-your-friend-in-2016/
*sniffle* Poor, poor beset upon Hillary
FYI..CLINTON SON IN LAW HEDGE FUND / GOLDMAN SACHS
Come on, as she has said before “what does it matter” Time and again she holds herself above the rest of us. She talks the talk she believes we want to hear but one must look at what she does to see the true Clinton. She is above the law in her mind. We are nothing but steps to what she wants. Corrupt, and evil lying with every word she utters.
Wow, somebody actually bet on a Greek recovery? I sure hope you didn’t use pension funds. What, did Vegas give you one billion to one odds?
well, Hillary IS the smartest woman in the world so I am certain she gave her son-in-law very sound advice on Greek investments. Next up, offering a line of credit to Enron Corp and Solyndra.
Fang would never have the guts to ask the Berne for his tax returns.
Why on earth, on your part, this pouring out from the empty into the void?
What do you expect to see in Bernie’s tax returns? I’m trying to think of what the worst possible thing could be, but I’m not sure.
Would you care to illuminate this issue for me?
There are ALWAYS, ALWAYS very good information in tax returns that a candidate refuses to release. ALWAYS. Check out Burlington College that just shut its doors and then scratch they head!
It may be because Bernie gave his tax returns a month ago. From the returns, Bernie would have to work over 2000 years to earn what Hillary did in 2013.
Basing lame criticisms on appalling ignorance just doesn’t help with credibility:
No, releasing taxes, going back decades and decades ALWAYS involves the last eight years. Nobody is asking Trump to merely release one year of taxes. You are incorrect and appallingly ignorant. You remind me of the Republicans.
Man of Great Wisdom, Pray tell, why does not the Messiah release his taxes from 2010 or 11, when his wife got her golden parachute? Pray tell, great man, why? Do you really believe that the Messiah does not have the time for this drivel? Think hard, think hard, great man of great wisdom, why? Or do you buy his nonsense excuse that most forth graders would use to explain why they didn’t do their homework?
Good work Lee, keep letting us know what is going on.
After repeated attempts on the rope line, I asked the Clinton campaign traveling press secretary Nick Merrill, who said, “I don’t know, has it been reported?” and said he would get in touch with me over email. I sent the question but have not heard a response back.
Uh, yeah….. don’t hold your breath waiting Lee
thank you so much for addressing all those important issues the msm dont
“Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity”? HAHAHAHAHA. oh god that’s good. like a high school in montana mixed with some odd hint at the mythical world of 300?
anyhoo, his parents were congress folk as well. and i’m sure his “conservative jewish” upbringing (so says wikipedia, anyway) has nothing AT ALL to do with hillary’s fanatical devotion to israel. this guy is bad news all around. more like “dennis menaceinsky”, am i rite?
hillary is funded by Haim Saban, Billionaire Israel firster. He also started/controls AIPAC.
It’s beyond obvious where her loyalties are.
Is this the same Goldman Sachs that admitted engaging in a massive fraud against its customers but was not criminally prosecuted by the Obama administration. Well, it seems like busy as usual with Hillary. Goldman has purchased a get out of jail card.
great reporting. great boost for trump. you think bernie has a chance? suicide.
I would rather support Jill Stein and lose then cast a vote for Richie rich and Queen Uranium
the only people who are committing this suicide are the ones who do not believe they will be affected by it, and therein lies the vast number of Bernie’s who must feel insulated by privileged.
Most Americans have been horribly affected by the policies and frauds Hillary and her donors support and enact.
Hillary defenders are insulated, beneficiaries, or voting against their own interests… just like Republicans.
Sanders donated his money to a non profit? Yeah, because it’s good public relations. He salivates for power and control of the United States military for use against the enemies of his Israeli tribe for the Jew World Order’s greater Israel plan. He’s in the same boat as Hillary… just working a different angle.
He’s no saint… He voted for the bombing and massacre of the Palestinians.
But Trump is the JWO’s puppet too, he’s just too much of a proud, arrogant fool to realize it.
If you look carefully, at the deabates, interviews, etc., if there is a question put to CLinton that she doesn’t like, puts her on the spot, or is about an uncomfortable past or present actions, she will MOST OF THE TIME laugh. It shows tremendous disrespect for the questioner, the topic and the audience. Don’t take my word for it, look for it. But that’s Hillary, and her minions wonder why she is so disliked.
Trump’s response, “Give me a break. This is no laughing matter.”
She plasters on the fake, plastic smile and her eyes go basilik. It’s eerie to watch.
So, when will we be seeing Donald Trump’s tax returns? Any investigation done on that, yet?
spoiler alert: you and every other trump whiner bought something today produced by a company that avoids taxes in ways trump could only dream of and do more harm in many more ways than he could if he lived to be 1,000. spread the word.
Trump is a coward.
Afraid to release his tax returns
Afraid to debate Bernie
Afraid to serve in the military
@cowarddonald
First of all, there isn’t a requirement to release tax returns. There is, however, a reasonable expectation to answer questions posed by media on speeches given to solicit funds for a non-profit.
Secondly, crazy Bernie isn’t in a position to debate the republican nominee. Hes losing to an unindicted felon.
Don’t be that guy. It makes you look #stupid.
If he is losing, how has he been able to gain 50 points since he started his campaign? If he is losing, why is HRC afraid to debate him and why is she so thrilled to get a dray in KY when she slaughtered Obama there?
Why are the democrats so afraid that they are thinking of dismantling the structure and leadership of the DNC?
LOL. Now that is deep.
Tax returns are not public information. (Ask Hitlery for her Saudi speeches to be released or Obama’s birth certificate).
Why would Trump debate a Socialist that came 2/3 in the Nominations? Bernie didn’t have a job until 40, I’m sure it would be no debate, just a playground for George Soros paid rioters. Especially when he is trying to pick up his voters.
Why would someone fight and serve as a pawn for the Globalist that control our paid off politicians? How great do they treat veterans? Only to cause more chaos/blow back to take more civil liberties away. What people don’t understand now days is you are safer and more free without a Government. Other governments don’t just attack civilians unless your the USA or ISIS (backed by our corrupt government). Do you not understand that the US created ISIS? They changed the name to confuse you dumbasses. Used to be Al Queda. I’m sure you probably have already forgotten that. Why does Obama hate Christians, get sworn into the White House with the Koran, and trying to flood the US with unvetted illegal criminals? Why did Obama pass the 2012 NDAA? This gave him the power to detain any American indefinitely without charging them of a crime. The chaos that is occurring is manufactured. We are all being lied to and controlled by Globalist. FEMA camps popping up everywhere. Thousands of plastic coffins that hold 4 adults, militarizing police forces ( in violation of Pose Comitatus), Jade Helm. Why all of this? Why aren’t we preparing for Aliens to attack? Because the government only carries out what it has planned. It knows what is coming because they will manufacture it. They are trying to bring non-Christian radicals here so they can have chaos only to come in and take more Civil liberties while charging more taxes to spend on military to “keep us safe” but we know better than that.
Oh,yeah,the HB said she tried to join the marines.sheesh.
BS has been in the military?
The only idiots to join the military in the modern age are just that,idiots.
Talk about a useless endeavor org,the military.They haven’t even been able to beat pajama wearing combatants,worldwide.They are good at defeating civilians though.
If the only line that Hillary supporters have is “Trump is worse” then they are not going to get very far, since Hillary is more into foreign military adventurism than any other candidate, and she has no domestic jobs program or domestic infrastructure program at all.
Some campaign line: Yes, I’m a dishonest tool of Wall Street interests, but hey, you want Trump instead?
Yes, that’s going to bring out the enthusiastic voters, sure. Hillary should just do the Democratic Party a favor and withdraw from the race, citing ‘personal issues.’
Why is it that every time Clinton’s ethics are questioned because of the evidence, her supporters bring up Trump? Does his corruption excuse her corruption?
I’ll likely be voting for an actually successful businessman, that has a record of accomplishment in an executive political office, is liked by people in both parties, and isn’t tainted by questionable ethics and pay to play crony crapitalism: Gary Johnson. And he actually supports more freedom (which brings prosperity) and less government spending unlike the major party candidates.
Hillary is a criminal who has enough wealth, and power because of her husband’s Presidency, to lie her way into office if we let her!
We don’t call it the Clinton Crime Family for nothing.
Hillary and all her lies are going to give Trump an easy path to the White House http://helpmebro.com/posts/t2Zch7Ndor
I came here to find out if Nick got back to Lee as promised in the video. Guess not :)
Mr. Fang with guts approaches HRC on this real nepotism! Oh, the many times Wall Street closed the flag ship store for The Clintons to sift among luxuries in private. Hill & Bill’s fees, juxtaposed against Sanders’ shy of 2K, which he donated to charity, says it all. Kshama Sawant (movement4bernie.org), you’ve shown the possible; I’m with you from here forward.
So now Hillary is responsible for her son-in-law’s business dealings? Id everyone connected to Hillary Clinton supposed to be unemployed and NOT collecting benefits?
Her supporters don’t seem to care about how many conflicts of interest she has or what kind of ethics she possesses. I would really be interested in what it is that would actually create serious doubt in their minds. And hope that whatever it is runs in the news a few days before June 7th.
Thanks for this. Hillary isn’t going to hand over her speeches, and Trump isn’t going to debate Sanders. They are like kudzu vines choking us all.
It would help if something really juicy caste serious doubt on Bill Clinton and his stewardship of the economy under her administration if she was elected president–that definitely was her way to solidify the black vote. A double scandal on her and Bill would help.
Washington is awash in conflicts of interests. Do you pretend it is only Hillary Clinton? It is nearly the entire political process. Insider trading in congress is tacitly legal. Fundraisers and lobbyists and revolving doors and tidbits and nothing to see here. The appearance of corruption does not indicate corruption. Large donations and other recompenses are not influencing.
Simply because a corporatist dark money organization like ALEC writes “model legislation” that is often introduced verbatim by scores of conservatives in states across the nation simultaneously, does not indicate anything untoward is happening. They all remain free and independent in their actions.
Google ‘ Pithocrates Bill Clintons subprime mortgage crisis ‘ and his ‘ Statement on Discrimination in Lending Act ‘ that he had entered into the Federal Registry on April 15 , 1994. Stewardship?! How does giving minorities mortgages of $250,000 while working at Burger King show any sign of fiscal responsibility ?!
Good job Lee. Be careful, as nothing is beyond the realm when dealing with criminals like the Clintons. They will do anything to obtain power and protect their ill gotten gains. The Clintons make me feel dirty like I need a bath. She is just funneling bribes through the son-in-law.
Bill abandoned Hillary for Monica. Hillary needed a hero and wanted to get back at Bill at the same time. So she sold herself to the highest bidders.
that’s a bold statement.
Tad devine 800k per month.
HRC 225k for 20 min word job.
Wrong. The majority of the funds you mention was paid to his company for ad creation. Video ads are costly. Get informed.
Tad is laughing all the way to the bank… as he did when he represented Phillip Morris, with delusionals like yourself, he’s got it easy. Ad creation? What a laugh! Keep up working for Trump, you’re doing a good job there, Northwestwoods. Like I say, insider stock tip, put your money on the rail cars if your man is elected. He’s got to get the 11 million families of hardworking people out of this country somehow, so expect new infrastructure, too. But keep up the front for old Tad. He’s really a very moral fellow, that old Tad.
Lee Fang = American Hero!!
It’s people like Fang who give democracy its teeth.
time to wake up and smell the hatred, folks, attacking somebody’s daughter’s husband just ain’t goin to cut it… it just isn’t going to look right from a historical point of view… it’s call who gives a rat’s ass.
https://m.reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/comments/4lc20h/this_is_the_most_powerful_antitrump_video_ive/
What attack? She is getting bribes to her family. You all too blind to care about the truth? Guess so.
it’s Mr. Jimmy, & man did he look pretty ill. He’s gonna get his fair share of abuse.
Jimmy cant always get what he wants.
So he sulks in the corner thinking about Hillary.
Poor Jimmy has sympathy for the devil.
When they are all involved in the conspiracy it cuts both ways. When her name was added to the “foundation” that spend 92% of its funds on “overhead” you become part of the problem.
92 percent funding is Repug talking point. It’s one of the lowest overhead of any foundation in US. No reporting on that here and so ignorace reigns
She copied United Healthcare.
Weak deflection.
I award you 1 out of 10 possible points.
Weak deflection.
I can only award you 1 out of 10 total points for that post.
You have failed your interview to become a Brockbot and shall not be awarded any credits citizen….
Payoffs to family members using ill-gotten gains earned by defrauding our fellow citizens…
… my oh my, I do believe fair criticism being called “hatred” is beyond the pale.
Now, just out of curiosity, Hillary schmoozing with and taking cash from the Trumpon and Chelsea being friends with his daughter are examples of good judgment?
And, not the slightest bit concerning?
It’ the cozy relationship between Goldman Sachs and the Clintons that is the issue here. Yet further indication that what we are going to get in a second President Clinton is much like what we got from the first: yet another presidential administration that facilitates the processes of crony capitalism in the United States.
Now this is reporting, please keep up the good work.
Corporate Personhood, the corrupting influence of money in politics, the subtle bribery resulting in looking forward to the rewards once having gone through the turnstile to K Street, and foundation chicanery are surpassed by the Clintons ability to even get paid off before they are elected again.
The more we know about this type of out and out amoral behavior only justified by unjust lawmakers the sooner the masses will wake up and do something about it.
And in anticipation of us doing something I just heard an inane right wing talk radio host call out to make sure prosecutors do a much better job of penalizing people arrested during protests. This is obviously the establishments cry to quell decent through their purchased corporate media. It would have been nice if the same talk radio hosts would have put any effort at all into going after the “banksters” that took us for reportedly as much as $21 trillion in real bailout costs.
I’m waiting for Lee Fang’s story regarding mass murderer not technically a psycho but still a technically a psycho jingo c Linton fraud’s surreptitious affair with supporter of mass murder racist jingo psycho pyramid schemer fraud fascist t rump and the secret videotape that will have to be released to further the continuance of their simultaneous crimes against humanity. Will be a good read I think. Wish I had that much money to waste illegally politicking, considering how expensive food is when you have a dearth of it and worthless metal.
Lee, you do The Intercept proud. It is a pleasure to watch you reveal this vile white-collar criminal for what she is (though she does an admirable job of doing so herself). You go!
Most rational people wouldn’t buy a used car from someone under investigation by the FBI, yet we’re about to nominate one for President. That is utter lunacy.
The problem with that statement is the FBI has a track record of persecuting some of the most rational people it can find. Besides, the White House is reserved for Lunatics Only.
Thanks for all your work / investigative journalim
Don’t forget her brother’s Charity scam in Haiti.
Who is Ed Mezvinsky, Chelsea Clinton’s father in law?
In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 counts of federal criminal bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud. Ed Mezvinsky embezzled more than $10 million dollars from people via both a Ponzi scheme and the notorious Nigerian e-mail scams.
He was found guilty and sentenced to 80 months in federal prison. After serving less than five years in federal prison, he was released in April 2008 and remains on federal probation.
To this day, he still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his many victims.
This scum is part of the family that wants in the oval office, scum themselves. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. They want us to elect them to the highest office in the land? How outrageous is that?
I thought you were kidding. I don’t know how I missed this one. It reads like something out of a Dickens novel. Oh w-ell, her voters don’t seem to care one bit.
As long as she “says” she will deliver what they want, then it doesn’t matter if she is Hitler or Sandusky, as long as their interests are promoted, which says something about the people who are voting for her.
If Madoff’s son hadn’t committed suicide, Hillary would have arranged for Chelsea to marry him.
The Clintons and Mezvinskys were friends during the 1990s — the period when Ed was perpetrating his multiple frauds and, presumably, the period when Chelsea first made the acquaintance of her now husband. Ed was released from Federal Prison in 2008 — did he attend his son’s wedding to Chelsea in 2010, I wonder, and thereupon revive his former friendship with Bill and Hillary? — It’s maybe not so much a matter of guilt by association as it is: A person can be judged by the kinda company s/he keeps.
Just now tracked down some required & recommended reading (Mezvinsky 101):-
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-bill-hillary-chelsea-mezvinsky-pardon-218632
Ah,Guilt by Association,now there’s a book to be had.Jeff Gates.
Fitting addition to the Clinton Crime Family.
It is the demand of accumulated wealth to be fed interest money.
It is the necessity of accumulated wealth to increase in value because falling value is not tolerated by wallstreet.
It is the personhood of accumulated value that you work for it so that it may profit.
It is the objective of accumulated wealth to own everything and render the population as tenants.
When cornered….plastic smile and freaky eyes.
I don’t think ‘Nick’ is coming back, Lee.
*too busy looking for emails and other assorted missing federal records …
Go get her!
Has Trump made any paid speeches to Wall Street? If not, he should certainly “release” those zero transcripts just as Sanders did and challenge Clinton to keep her word and release hers. Even if he did make speeches should probably release them, figuring hers will damage her more than his would him. Especially if she reneges and doesn’t release them. Not that I favor Trump, both are terrible.
We’re talking about an establishment politician and a billionaire businessman here. The phrase ‘keeping your word’ in unknown to either of them. Both lie and both have poor judgement. Sadly, one of these will be our next president.
Trump has never or would never put the security of this country in risk by having unsecured Email account
This is not about Trump, its about Clinton’s son in law, losing 90% of principal? Investing in socialist Greek recovery? Well, Stupid is as stupid does. Warning to investors. Do not bet on Greece and never bet on Clinton or her family.Try investing in a Trump investment.
The Trumpon invested in Hillary, and then invited her to his third wedding… and she went.
It’s a “stupid” circle jerk of corruption and bankruptcies.
That’s why “None of the above” is the correct answer to the Hillary or Trump question.
Crooked Hillary!
How did she carry on the influence peddling business? It appears that would have been a very solid reason for a private server – influence peddling away from prying eyes, in typical Clinton modus operandi. Oh, the greed, greed, greed! What hath thou brought upon poor Hillary!
Way to go Lee!!!!!! Thanks a bunch!!!!
This election is about disaster, more of the same..Endless war for profit and all the wealth going to Wall Street Billionaires or improvement in every aspect of our economic and political lives.
The delegates and superdelegates know:
Bernie has one 20 states so far..every state where verifiable paper ballots are used. He will likely win the remaining states including california.
New York and Arizona are being contested due to massive voter fraud and voter suppression.
Bernie leads hillary in national polls and has for 2 months.
Bernie leads Trump by double digits and has since August.
Hillary loses to Trump by 6 points with 6 months to go in Reuters Poll 5/16-19.
There is no path to victory for Hillary in the fall.
Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren will win the nomination on the first ballot and the November election in a huge landslide.
Sadly, a dream. Cash is already pouring into the clinton and democrat coffers for the convention. Hillary started pushing cash into the superdelegates long ago, to ensure their loyalty. They will quickly brush Bernie aside and nominate Hillary, in the hope her ratings against trump improve before November.
Business wants a president they can control. Trump or Bernie aren’t easily bought, but Hillary is, with the Clinton Foundation and DNC mechanism for taking in as much cash as needed for her campaigns. The media and TV networks will be told to take down trump, fabricating stories as needed and push the Hillary spin. Obama will be told to bury any FBI investigation if he wants his presidential library built.
Bottom line? A democrat stooge is a way better, more pliable president for wall st, pharma and the military machine than the maniac Trump. And the best of all, the people will rejoice as we have our first woman president. Yay!
The bubblehead twin(EW) of the HB is in the HBs corner.
You are my hero, Lee. Keep it up. I have yet to find anyone doing a better job of exposing Clinton for the compromised and failed candidate that she is. It’s hard to believe much of the criticism against her because the people writing them are so clearly biased. Your work is exceptional. American voters are well served by your efforts.
Well said Kristine.
Keep at it Lee.
Does your mother-in-law know how much you make and all your sources of income? Why would Hillary Clinton know the details of her son-in-law’s business deals? Such a strange question to ask.
Yeah, gee whiz, how, oh how? Weird how the above article is not about either of the things you mentioned though, isn’t it?
Just another big influence deal for the Clinton’s and their little Know Nothing son in law! A 90% loss for the fund??? You gotta be kidding me!
Why would you expect HRC to know about the financial dealings of her son-in-laws businesses? I don’t know about you, but I have never seen a bank or investment statement of any of my family members or in-laws, but then I wouldn’t consider it any of my business. Or is this not really what you are fishing for? If you want to accuse HRC of something, why not just be direct about it, nobody else has been holding back, she’s even been accused of murder for goodness sake. Frankly I don’t care what people say in their private speeches, but I care very much if any millionaire or billionaire is avoiding paying any taxes!
because as you acknowledge she is an employee of the same institution in question and if Trump didnt pay anything in taxes its because of the laws that have been put in place by the political elites like Clinton.
First of all,any red blooded American tries to pay as least tax as they can,its human nature.
Second,she is a murderer,look at the ME.
Bought and paid for…but Progressives will still vote for the crook.
She and Bill are both liars. Blankfein is a crook. And if Mezvinsky follows in his father’s footsteps he will end up in jail. Go figure.
Why would Hillary Clinton know the ins-and-outs of her son-in-law’s business deals?
Closing the doors on Mevinsky’s hedge fund has been reported but no one knows how much they lost. Where’d all the money go? Someone paid someone for some worthless Greek bonds. Not to mention the $2M+ for listening to the 2 Clinton gasbags.
Mr. Fang, keep up the good work. The video says it all. What a condescending POS is Nick Merrill.
Keep hammering them!
#bernieorbust
Maybe the IMF leak blew it for Eaglevale? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-02/wikileaks-reveals-imf-plan-cause-credit-event-greece-and-destabilize-europe
That video! All those people must know! And yet, Mrs. Clinton gets away, again, without a word? Gets away with such “ef you” belligerence! Trickery and betrayal of the Nixon era raised to a new “in your face” spitefulness; an incredible wrenching, moral indecency that I and other “Baby Boomers – And Woodstockers”, ,were told only could happen in a dictatorial U.S.S.R.! Yet , the crowd plays on like they could give a crap about Mrs. Clinton’s lack of common decency. I sense that this perversion of gestalt, stems from what Senator Bernie Sanders calls, “illegal behavior by wall street”. She IS “on the take”, in my opinion, and instead of gestalt, we are devolving into chaos, rather than resisting its monetary lure.
Love how she completely ignores the question, like she did in Lee’s previous video, asking about releasing her Wall St. speeches.
Crooked Hillary!
Keep it up kids. Once the Donald is elected, he will shut you down, that is a near certainty, as delusional as Nader who claimed Bush and Gore were equal and that electing Bush would start the revolution. You’ll get shut down along with every other critical media outlet, and perhaps he’ll have the billionaire who funds you, that’s right, the billionaire whom you’re beholden to, thrown in jail too. Yup, Hillary is evil, her f-ing son-in-law has money from Goldman Sachs and that is her fault too…
So you are in favor of her intimate relationship with goldman sachs?
And please answer that question. Don’t change the subject.
And if your answer is no, then do you believe that NOT reporting these types of stories would be an effective way of dealing with the issue?
I’ve given a ton of money to organizations such as Democracy Now etc… What we’re dealing with is a five alarm fire. All people have against Hillary is innuendos and innuendos regarding to corruption are a hundred times more damaging to women, as sexual innuendos were for blacks in the South. If tripe like this were countered with, for example, an article about the impact that the Clinton Foundation has had on world poverty, sure, go ahead and balance it out. Innuendos work against minorities and women. That is all this is.
Well, there is a report and that is not innuendo. However, I do admire your persistence in making the most preposterous segues.
The Clinton Foundation…just the basic premise that 10% goes to works while 90% goes to the “Foundation,” per an independent audit of charitable orgs, is enough to recognize the sleaze that Bill, Hill and Chelsea represent. If anyone in the media would challenge, it would be good night, Gracie to her campaign, but that’s not the case. Look in the mirror, Jimmy, are you for real? Can you defend Alice Capone to anyone?
Apparently you know nothing about the difference between a charity and a foundation,
You failed to answer the question, unsurprisingly.
It is precisely these types of cozy relationships between Wall street and politicans that led to the state of affairs that caused the crash.
And this isnt some purity test. Millions of people were really, seriously hurt as a consequence of the lack of regulation and oversight. (And im sure some of them are now are planning on voting for drumpf)
And the idea that this is some sort attack on her because of her gender, based on innuendo is really a special kind of delusion.
Further, whatever the Clinton foundation does has zero to do with this discussion. It is not about balancing pro and con articles about the clintons.
And it is sad that I have to point that out.
It is about exposing the deeply unscrupulous relationship between high finance and government, a relationship that makes a functioning democracy all but impossible.
Now, it should go without saying that this is not some sort of endorsement for the orange idiot. But id better say it just in case that is not clear.
Yup.
It’s just innuendo that she supports what they want and opposes what they don’t want.
Never mind that she’s supposedly a shrewd politician yet she opposes what the people want in favor of what her donors want, and she avoids transparency (and breaks her promises about disclosure) all to maintain her cozy ties despite the harm her obvious corruption is causing.
But hey… you can just blame it on her gender and pretend it’s not important. I mean, they’re just criminals who want to stay out of jail with a massive conflict of interest for the candidate who may decide who runs the Justice Department, right?
They only helped cause the great recession and cost millions of Americans their homes and jobs… no big deal. Why should the little people know the details of their relationship?
It’s just innuendo…
… and besides… she once raised money for poor people, so that offsets her corruption.
Oh, and minorities should be mentioned too, because it’s good PR or something.
Well, about that Clinton Foundation (which took in over $10 million from the Saudi Royals, who don’t exactly support women’s rights, or democracy in general for that matter) – let’s take a look at their record in Haiti:
“. . . the Clintons are facing a growing backlash that too little has been accomplished in the past five years and that some of the most high-profile projects they have backed — including a just-opened Marriott, another luxury hotel and the industrial park — have helped foreign investors and Haiti’s wealthy elites more than its poor.” (source: Washington Post March 20, 2015)
Catering to wealthy elites seems to be a signature of the Clintons, and they are much like the Bush crime family in that regard – pay-to-play, in bed with the Saudis, the highest bidders come first.
If it comes down to Hillary vs. the Donald, well, a defeat for Hillary will help remove the gang of corrupt neoliberals from power in the Democratic Party, and that would be worth the price of having to deal with the Donald for four years, in my opinion.
First, Hillary is far more likely to start foreign wars and pursue the “new Cold War” theme with Russia and China; plus she has no domestic jobs or domestic infrastructure program – and Trump’s crazier ideas will surely be blocked by a hostile Congress and Supreme Court.
Even with the Supreme Court, Congress might let Obama’s moderate choice through in the lame duck session if Trump wins; all in all I think Hillary is the worst candidate (Bernie the best, but the crooked DNC has been in bed with Hillary from the beginning).
Jeez, Reading this comments page is like school! lol Thank you. And Thank everyone of you,. You ROCK, TOTALLY! lol And Happy B’day 80 to Wavy.
Jimmy
It’s okay to support, or vote for, Hillary Clinton for whatever reasons your conscience or political calculus motivate that support and/or vote.
But most people of above average intellect are done being shamed into voting for someone based on a debased standard of morality or logic.
I’m willing to live with the consequences of whatever happens in any American election knowing full well the implications for me personally and for others. That’s what a majoritarian system is all about. I’ve survived every backward dumbass the Republicans have seated in Congress and in the White House for 50 years. And Herr Trumph will be no different. I have a little more faith in the American people and its institutions than to fear the irrational idea that Trump could be Mussolini for the simple fact that our systems and the powerful factions in it would never allow that to happen (not for any particular generosity of spirit or commitment to human or civil rights but out of pure selfishness).
I will not vote for Hillary Clinton because she does not represent my political values (particularly economic or foreign policy). If she fails to win the general, which she should handily against one of the weakest candidates in American history, then she will only have herself and her political supporters to blame for not being a more compelling candidate who supports policies that can attract a plurality of voters. That’s our system, and I’m prepared to live with whatever results ensure, but I will not by guilted or shamed into voting for her out of “fear of the other” or because you think I owe you my vote to “help all those other folks rather than myself.”
I vote for those individuals whose policy positions are closely enough aligned to what I believe to be rational and in the best interest of this nation and all the people in it. But I have red lines and Hillary Clinton crossed too many of them for my conscience to permit me to vote for her.
And it’s not a function of gender bias, but a function of her politics, policies, history and personality. There are so many women in this nation I’d gladly put my money, time and efforts behind to get elected, but she isn’t one of them.
You have articulated precisely what i have concluded.
OK Jimmy tell us “about the impact that the Clinton Foundation has had on world poverty”. Please lay it out along side of her transcripts of her Wall Street Speeches. Make us believers, because for now most of us believe this:
“In April, Correct the Record caused a stir when it announced plans to spend $1 million to build a “digital task force” dedicated to “pushing out positive content to Hillary supporters online to counter negative attacks and false narratives.”
I fully expect hillary and the establishment (and maybe the donald, too) to come out hard against net neutrality and the democratization of information that the net facilitates. Anti-establishment grassroots efforts owe their success in large part to the net, and they are becoming too much of a liability for the status quo. It’ll be truth and progress be damned if hillary or trump are elected.
Keep it up, kids? I am a middle aged women with an IQ that exceeds 98% of the population. Please don’t attempt to bully or threaten me into voting for Hillary Clinton, or else. If Trump wins, it’s because the DNC put the interest of Goldman Sachs ahead of the people.
Yea, because criticizing the Anointed One and raising valid questions about the financial interests of her family will lead directly to the election of Der Trumpenfuhrer. Better to cease any and all questions about Clinton and offer up blind support; she does after all, feel your pain.
Jimmy, go crap your own pants in fear. Telling everyone else to be scared. Pretending that Trump would be elected dictator rather than just president. Crying wolf every 4 years: the partisan way.
And stop lying about what Nader said (“electing Bush would start the revolution”).
The Orange Idiot indeed, and then there is the White Haired Idiot on the other side of the discussion. The White Haired Idiot never mentions, as far as I know, banning political advertising, which is the only possible way of fixing the problem, getting money out of politics is a puerile discussion. It doesn’t work and never will and never can and will only promote those who have their own, like Mr. Bloomberg or the billionaire Pierre who funds the Intercept, not The Orange Haired Idiot because he has very little money. Nor does this site ever look into this issue and as you know this site depends completely on the funding of that billionaire, despite Mr. Greenwald’s former career as a journalist by an organization funded by a trust. Do I make innuendos that Mr. Fang or Mr. Greenwald are being influenced by the fact that they live off and must answer to Pierre, hell no. I trust Mr. Greenwald, he attacked Bush and Obama, good for him. I trust that he would drop his billionaire funding, the money that feeds him and his dogs, in a flash if he interfered with his site. “I didn’t predict how people would see it. Pierre [Omidyar]’s not just a funder. He’s the 100th-richest person in the world. He has $9bn, which is an unfathomable sum, and he’s from the very tech industry that is implicated in the NSA story. I probably paid insufficient attention to those perceptions.” Greenwald nevertheless insisted that he and The Intercept remain editorially independent of Omidyar. “I know in my mind that the minute anybody tries to interfere with what I’m doing, that is the minute I will stop doing it.” Wow, breathtaking, and I love Glen and Jeremy. But of course, a different principle applies to the Clinton’s and since there is no hard evidence or causation, (Haiti? Holy shit, somebody knows nothing whatsoever about the Clinton Foundation) it must be done through innuendos, just like this article and the idiot commentators who continue, much in the style of the Orange Haired Idiot and the White Haired one of innuendo without a single fact behind it..
anyone who doesn’t get it and thinks Trump is a Mitt Romney or even a GWB has them a case of affluenza or maybe they’re just funded by a billionaire themselves who knows…
https://m.reddit.com/r/hillaryclinton/comments/4lc20h/this_is_the_most_powerful_antitrump_video_ive/
Jimmy, learn the art of paragraphing.
Hillary defenders are so charming.
Not a one would know a fact if it bit them… so they project and lay bare their weakness for all to see.
Waiting for a signed and notarized deposition by Hillary admitting that she does the banksters bidding in exchange for cash? And one for the insurers, defense contractors, Israel, etc.?
Anything less is innuendo?
Maybe with the fake Clintonian praise for GG, he will accidentally stumble across the description of corruption as practiced by elites these days?
Perhaps someone could provide the link because, knowing Hillary supporters, expending effort in search of facts is too much effort for them.
I believe Brian is still owed an answer too-
Are you in favor of Hillary’s intimate relationship with Goldman?
It’s OK… you can be honest instead of evasive… no need to imitate your boss.
BTW, in Vegas, card dealers in casinos will be fired if they’re discovered dealing to friends… and for good reason.
Do you know why?
No facts sort a like the Vince Foster story. Just affluenza arrogance!
Nader was right about every one of those statements.The Shrub and Obombas abysmal reigns as POTUS have led directly to Trumps revolution.
And Gore would have had the same exact response to 9-11 as the shrub.He chose as VP a Likud mole traitor monster,Lieberman.
Perhaps it’s because you didn’t address her as “Oh most holy and anointed Queen Hillary.”
gee i dunno. So what have we here, the House of Saud? The house of Clinton? And the whole house is wallstreet’s cathouse?
It is looking like the wallstreet zionist thieving pigs are turning America into a middle east styled tribal dictatorship.
What an insult. It’s an American style dictatorship. Pay attention.
Thank god some people still believe in the fourth estate.
You’re doing god’s work, and I’m an atheist.
Keep up the good work. Intercept is one of only a few investigative news channels i can take seriously.
Yes, two others: Ian Masters’ “Background Briefing” and “The Real News Network”. Too few around now. I remember watching live, in the evening, black and white reports like Edward R. Murrow from his living room styled studio. CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite, alone, actually reported “Woodstock” in a favorable light and skewered the Pentagon’s phony propaganda reports from Vietnam. Save for “The Intercept”, with Glenn & crew and other ROCKIN” MOFOs lol – gives this ol hippy geezer the grins.