Donald Trump’s first response to the mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando was to congratulate himself “for being right on radical Islamic terrorism.”
His second response was to accuse President Obama of complicity.
“Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,” Trump told Fox News early Monday. “There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on. … He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it’s one or the other and either one is unacceptable.”
It’s an extraordinary insinuation. But it’s also the logical extension of the particularly virulent anti-Muslim rhetoric Trump has employed throughout the campaign. Trump’s rhetoric is not simply anti-Muslim; it has its roots in far-right conspiracy theories that hold that Islam itself is an enemy of the United States — and has tentacles at every level of our government.
Trump has elevated those views to the forefront of his campaign to the White House, but he has been a megaphone for them for years.
As far back as 2011, Trump took to Twitter to complain directly to Obama that he had “abandoned Israel” and “engaged the Muslim Brotherhood,” the Islamist Egyptian political party.
He then blamed Obama for promoting the Arab Spring and began to refer to the Muslim Brotherhood as the president’s “allies”:
Following the mass shooting in Fort Hood, Texas, Trump deemed Obama’s classification of the killings as “workplace violence” as a defense of “radical Islam”:
By February 2012, this had morphed into Trump outright claiming that Obama “loves radical Islam”:
Two months later, Trump responded to Obama meeting with the Muslim Brotherhood-led Egyptian government by proclaiming that the president’s “friends are enemies of the US and @Israel.”
In the spring of that year, Trump began a crusade to seek Obama’s birth certificate, with the clear implication that the president wasn’t born in the United States (and presumably isn’t Christian, either).
In September, Trump took a joke by the pop star Madonna and used it to imply that Obama was Muslim, a revival of birtherism that also called into question the president’s religion:
Trump justified his signature anti-Muslim policy — his call for temporarily banning Muslim migration to the United States “until we can figure out what’s going on” — by citing Islamophobic kingpin Frank Gaffney.
Gaffney is a former minor Reagan administration official who runs a think tank called the Center for Security Policy (CSP) that is dedicated to uncovering the supposed Muslim plot to take over the United States.
Trump cited a CSP poll claiming that a quarter of Muslim Americans believe violence against the American homeland is justified. But the poll had no statistical validity — it was based off of a “non-probability based, opt-in online survey.”
Gaffney’s fingerprints were also on comments made Monday by Trump’s longtime informal adviser Roger Stone.
In an interview with Breitbart News, Stone pointed to Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin, warning that “there’s going to be a new focus on whether this administration, the administration of Hillary Clinton at State was permeated at the highest levels by Saudi intelligence and others who are not loyal Americans.”
The idea that Abedin is a sleeper agent for Islamist movements or foreign countries originated from Gaffney and his work at the CSP. This crusade was briefly taken up by a small group of House Republicans led by Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., who claimed that the presence of Abedin in Clinton’s inner circle confirmed that the Obama administration had been infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.
This earned a rebuke by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who said that the accusations were “sinister.”
No shocker the media is all over Trump. What I love is the media doesn’t wanna talk about ordinary everyday muslims. 99% hate gays. 99% of ordinary muslims think the punishments in the quran and sunnah are the best justice society or man will ever have. Don’t believe me go to a mosque yourself for a khutbah or watch one here
https://twitter.com/TheBucketShop
After you watch, come back and let’s have a discussion about why we shouldn’t initiate a temporary ban on muslims in this country
Its not a muslim thing, per se, its a gun thing for which the muslim boogey man is useful. However, the saudis did roundaboutly pay for Obama’s education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws-sBVZeitI
An interesting new development.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/14/russia-hack-democratic-national-committee-trump/85867116/
The distinction between “Russia” and “Russian hackers” is a little vague, but in Putin’s Russia, who knows?
I’ll be very disappointed if I learn that you have been assimilated by the Russophobic/Putinphobic Borg currently consuming American thought, coram.
Your analysis and judgment is usually much sharper than that.
And, just BTW, if the situation were reversed, we’d have to say that “the distinction between “America” and American hackers” was a little vague, as well, wouldn’t we? But you probably wouldn’t complete the sentence with an arbitrary reference to “Obama’s America.”
The distinction blurs, in the sense that Russian hackers may have the same encouragement as their football hooligans had at Euro 2016.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/13/russia-officials-fan-violence-marseille-england
The latter seemed well-organized, according to other Guardian articles.
Warning, Will Robinson! The Graun has been on a massive, Russophobic disinformation campaign for years, now.
Seriously. If it concerns Russia and it runs in the Guardian, be very suspicious. And be triply suspicious if the piece is written by arch Russophobe Shaun Walker. And if it is written by spawn-of-Satan Luke Harding, just don’t read it — it could leave you permanently damaged.
I’m not kidding, coram and I know whereof I speak. Google “Guardian Russophobia” and peruse the results. Some will be obvious shilling for Moscow — but even they won’t be any worse than the Graun’s shilling for NATO.
If the Guardian is becoming unreliable than we really do have a problem, though I still think they’re fairly good when it’s internal U.S. news and not in an area, say, international relations, that they might have a bias.
“I still think they’re fairly good when it’s internal U.S. news. . .”
Generally agree.
“. . . and not in an area, say, international relations, that they might have a bias.”
They have an anti-Russian bias so massive that it is either fully pathological, the result of government orders, or both. You cannot believe a word they say on subjects related to Russia and its conflicts with the West, going back to, at least, the beginning of the Maidan demonstrations in Kiev.
The Guardian, like most of the American MSM, is in full New Cold War Mode.
I recall rhetoric against Muslims only became trendy in popular right wing political culture while Obama was running for president and after he won.
Before Obama even Fox news would remind us regularly that in order to win the war in Iraq and terrorism we needed to win the hearts and minds of Muslims. They even had a three day special on Islam that was positive.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-badly-did-romney-botch-response-to-libya-attack/
The Orlando hate crime and the Benghazi attack remind me of each other and in my opinion, come across as election influence operations largely due to the way both Trump and Romney so quickly and eagerly responded with what looked like pre-planned scripted, weirdly eager and distasteful attacks on the president.
But also like Romney, what Trump doesn’t appear to realize is that by doing so he’s showing his true opinion of the job he wants to have which also means it makes him look like he really doesn’t want it or that he is unfit to have it.
Trump claims he’s some badass outsider here to shake up the establishment and be president only for people in America that like him is something his fans appreciate but ultimately most Americans would like to have a president too and don’t want to hire someone who is eager to divide us and take out the government as well as finish off our reputation in the world.
Whether he wins or not, I think the influence of this guy will stay and with more extreme versions to follow.
So true. Some bigots just can handle the fact that Obama won. Its to much for them to take, so they have to resort to spewing hatred.
So true. Some bigots just cant handle the fact that Obama won. So they have to resort to spewing hate
Any idiot who doesn’t believe that Obomba has fueled extremism and terror less than the shrub or whomever need their heads examined.
Maybe Trump was floating the idea that all this shite is fomented to exactly do what it does,divide and conquer.
Lets hear all the idiots defend Wapo today because Trump kicked them to the curb?Those shining examples of journalistic integrity,who serial lie daily to keep US in their war of terror for Zion.
Suspect in Miami massacre does not deserve his face on air time for viewers.
We warned you at the time that mocking Trump’s call for temporarily banning Muslims was leaving the door open to a terrorist attack that would essentially validate his proposals and his leadership abilities with the American people.
But the media is too caught up in its own passions to view things objectively. I could go down the list of reasons why people think Obama is Muslim or born in Kenya, but it would go in one ear and out the other as they say.
For example, Obama’s own biography from his book publicist said he was born in Kenya. Various newspaper articles from his days as US senator from Illinois said he was born in Kenya, etc.
Here is a question: When you are a child what religion are you?
Answer: You are whatever religion your parents say you are. Both of Obama’s fathers were Muslims. And in a Muslim country in those times, the father makes those decisions. So there is good reason to believe that Obama was entered into school as a Muslim and raised as a Muslim.
According to Islam once a Muslim always a Muslim. You can’t really quit. At best you are an apostate and the punishment can be severe.
And so on and so forth.
Failure to deal with these issues directly rather than by simply mocking people is why trust in media is plummeting.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gallup-confidence-in-newspapers-at-all-time-low-congress-worse/article/2593711
1) The gunman was American born with no ties to any foreign terrorist groups, which Trump naively assumed he was, so your banning immigrants point is moot.
2) According to the FBI less than 6% of US terrorism is committed by Muslims. 94% of US terrorism is committed by Judeo-Christians. With Judeo-Christians being responsible for the OVERWHELMING majority of terrorist acts in the USA (not to mention the routine, daily murders they commit), should we ban all Judeo-Christians from entering the US until we can “figure this out”? Of course not! No one would want to do that because “the ban” has nothing whatsoever to do with safety and everything to do with bigotry.
3) If the people who want to ban Muslims are serious about their goal being to “Keep America Safe”, why won’t those same people support keeping AK-47’s out of the hands of lunatics instead of DEMANDING easy access to them?
4) Trump and his band of bigots need to be mocked and mocked mercilessly. Treating these reactionary hate merchants as serious, sincere people is as idiotic as wanting to ban 1/4 of the world’s population from entering the US.
5) Where does the anti-Muslim ban end? Do we kick the 6000+ Muslims serving in the US military out? Why do you hate our troops? There are over 1000 Muslim police officers in NYC alone – let alone the thousands & thousands across the nation — do we kick them all out, too? Why do you hate our cops?
There’s nothing remotely serious about the Muslim ban. It’s pure reactionary stupidity & hatred and needs to be treated as such. If you want to make the gun problem in this country about any particular ethnic or religious group, then logically Muslims wouldn’t be your target, Judeo-Christians would be.
1. Actually, I want to (temporarily ) ban 75% of the world’s population from entering the United States. The idea that we are the world’s dumping ground is getting old. And no, we don’t kick out people who are here legally, but we don’t add fuel to the fire either.
2. As far as many Americans are concerned, America is at war with Islam. Islam is a minority in America and it’s already causing problems. Muslims are 1% of the total population and account for 6% of the terrorism? That sounds like a problem.
3. You can say mean things all you want, but this is OUR country and WE decide who is allowed to come here. Like it or lump it.
4. You couldn’t disarm Americans if you wanted to and trying to disarm Americans will likely lead to a civil war. Every time people talk about gun control gun sales go up.
C’mon,the idiot hates Islam,look at his actions.
I remember reading the Indonesian children would throw rocks at the little black boy(racists too).Maybe its all payback.F*ck him anyway,the pos.
I think I’ve only left one comment in any social media in all the time that Trump has been a candidate–this is comment no. 2. He’s like a floater in the toilet bowl, and the other half of the “chosen” two candidates we get, and it doesn’t seem to matter whether we vote or not.
I wouldn’t spend my off hours at a sewage plant either. Why dwell on it (Trump)? We know what he is and no elaboration is needed. I would rather see “other” news as the mainstream media seems to be in a sick-obsessed relationship with him already, and we know the mainstream media is a toy for the sick, rich materialists.
“Presidents are selected, not elected” and “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little” ? FDR
I don’t think either candidate has the latter in mind, and they are definitely “selected.”
Strange how willingly the intercept accepts narratives without evidence — as if the twittersphere were knowledge enough. They easily berate sources when the presumed killers are Muslims and accept the same sources when they are presumed to be right-wing or mentally unstable. The idea that two or more people could be involved in a crime is by definition a conspiracy theory. It probably says more about our allergies to theory than the idea of a naked conspiracy. Yes, two or more people do commit crimes together.
It would be nice if the intercept could provide actual evidence for its claims instead of the omg, like, i read it on the Internet approach to reporting. I mean, even when you have the image of the same suspect committing crimes in different places, your minds just polarize to what you want to believe.
Take a moment to think of the scientific status of your claims to deeper knowledge of the national security theatre state: what do you know and how do you know it?
Does “lone-wolf theory” really explain everything all the time? Before answering the question with a question, demand evidence. You’re [the intercept in general not the author of this piece in particular] quick to accept that Hulk Hogans penis should be forensic evidence for your pages, but forensic evidence of a crime.
If you get turned off to evaluating evidence simply because it is a conspiracy theory, then you’re going to miss out on what is going on, and be easily manipulated by people who are monitoring your every reaction to events.
When does the intercept require evidence and when does it let the need for evidence slide?
The US press has become far too incestuous and the intercept is no exception. Yes, maybe there is a different story than the one told on twitter. Or, maybe there is a new form of super-predator out there that justifies incarcerating thousands of innocent men (just to save one child’s life).
I know, it’s extremely difficult to believe the US government could manipulate people. I know it’s unheard of. Never happened before.
Maybe all of the above is false. But the way of knowing is not by stacking up as much theories into a noun-phrase as possible “insane right-wing conspiracy theories,” and break it down into individual phrases.
If you knew what John McCain knew, you probably wouldn’t be hiding in his skirt.
First off, I don’t like trump go begin with. But the Ford hood shooting wasn’t workplace violence. Obama won’t even say the words “Radical Islam” and your lieing you yourself if you say that there isn’t a radical islam.
Donald Trump is utterly remorseless with his lies and insinuations.
76% of his statements rated by Politifact fall within the false spectrum. He has more “pants on fire” ratings than Obama, Clinton, Sanders, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul COMBINED (Sanders has none)! Truly and unprecedented liar.
If you’re under Trump’s spell, you have some serious disdain for facts.
I like his Make America Great Again campaign. A quarter century of Clinton-Bush-Obama has ruined our country.
And we sure do need that wall that Vincente Fox is going to pay for.
Maybe you can help build it!
if it would finally get me a job, bring it on
Surely there are existing wall building opportunities available to you, without having to elect a certified ass clown like Trump.
Make America Great – first prosecute the WAR CRIMINALS….torture??
Bush Administration Convicted of War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity…. that would be a good place to start…..but believe this it is only the start
And those under the spell of Zionist supremacy will lie repeatedly about the truth.It’s documented and a worldwide phenomena.
Oooh. Sounds scary!
K
Today again there was a killing of an innocent police officer in Paris.
During Ramadan the Muslims should introspect and perform only holy activities. Unless, of course, killing kaffers is a holy activity – in which case our FBI needs to do something about it.
13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015 , that is abaout 30 people per day
If one had a functioning brain they would note their was absolutely no?Islamic terrorism in France under Chirac,the wise man who refused,unlike his moron Zionist successors to stick a stick in the hornets nest.
1 and 1 make 2.but in Ziominds they make nonsense.
Here we go as the fear and war mongers make the most of this tragedy. For days to come they will use the horrible loss of life, the injured bodies of those that survived, the pain we feel in their families and loved ones broken hearts to advance their bomb everything we can and boots on the ground agenda, which unleashes more and more war, “satin’s most cherished triumph”.
The blame will all be laid upon the philosophy of jihad. Nothing will be mentioned about the fact that each of a vast number of our bombs, which wounds or takes the lives of innocents, is simply a source of creating hatred and revenge that, has far more to do with rage created out of injustice rather than religion.
“The Center for Security Policy (CSP) is dedicated to uncovering the supposed Muslim plot to take over the United States”
Why doesn’t the CSP also dedicate themselves as to the uncovering of how Israel has already taken over the United States?
I would avoid the dealer , who gave you those pills
Reality based awareness doesn’t come from a pill.
One thing is absolutely clear, Donald trump is a sick, sick man.
Zaid, great article on all the amazingly prescient things Donald has been saying for years. He has been consistently right about all of this. It’s nice to have all these great tweets and other statements in one spot, even though we have to wade through your biased and dishonest editorializing. It’s ok though. Most people in this country have figured out to not trust things just because it is published somewhere.
Yes it was a hate crime directed at the gay community.
Yes Donald Trunp is a racist and seldom knows what he is talking about.
But WHY WHY WHY is a citizen of the US allowed to purchase an automatic weapon that is designed for military use. ARE THE BEARS AND DEER GETTING BIGGER AND FASTER AND USING COMPUTER RESOURCES TO AVOID THE HUNTERS?
Yes the 2nd amendment should be revised to limit the type of arms sold and I’ll tell you why. The founding fathers did not intend for neighbors to be killing neighbors.
“The Decline and Fall of the U.S. Empire”, book to be tweeted soon but we are living it.
Seriously people, look around yourself and enjoy it coz, as bad as it may seem to be today, it won’t get any better. Ever.
Or, in the immortal words of Ozzie:
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings,
Oh lord yeah!
I’ll see your Ozzie and raise you a Metallica:
Master of puppets I’m pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can’t see a thing
Just call my name, ’cause I’ll hear you scream
Master
Master
Just call my name, ’cause I’ll hear you scream
Master
Master
Come crawling faster
Obey your master
Your life burns faster
Obey your master
Master
Mr. Jilani
“……..It’s an extraordinary insinuation. But it’s also the logical extension of the particularly virulent anti-Muslim rhetoric Trump has employed throughout the campaign. Trump’s rhetoric is not simply anti-Muslim; it has its roots in far-right conspiracy theories that hold that Islam itself is an enemy of the United States — and has tentacles at every level of our government……”
This is just another attempt to deflect from the role of Islam in the perpetration of another brutal terrorist attack against innocent people in Orlando. First and foremost, this was a hate crime directed at gay and lesbian people – and you are white-washing the bigotry, discrimination, hatred and crimes by Islam against the LGBT community world-wide.
There are still 10 Muslim majority countries with the death penalty for homosexuality (never reported by the Intercept). While most religions are opposed to homosexuality, Islam is by far the worst. Even Omar’s father said “In a video posted on Facebook early this morning……….his 29-year-old son, Omar Mateen, shouldn’t have gone on the killing spree because ‘God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality”. Most will recall that Ahmadinejad denied there were any homosexuals at all in Iran in his appearance at Columbia University. Iran must have hanged the last two in 2005. Saudi Arabia has the death penalty for homosexuality.
This is classic Intercept reporting deflecting from the crimes committed in the name of Islam against innocent people and gay people – and refusing (for the third straight article) to call the massacre in Orlando a “terrorist” attack.
O’Bomba has been bombing Muslims for the past 8 years. And now we’re surprised that some Muslims are reacting violently to O’Bomba’s friendly dronings?
Yeah, people react to violence with violence. How crazy is THAT?
Good to see you are buying into the propaganda of the Intercept. You are a welcome addition to the below the line commentators here.
Do you believe that O’Bomba hasn’t been droning the Mooslums? Ummm… Maybe you’re right. After all he did get the Noble prize and noblesse oblige.
Or maybe you believe that violence does NOT beget violence. Well… that’s probably true for Christians because Sweet Jeezas did tell them to turn the other buttcheek but the Mooslums are not Christians so they don’t know that whenever they get bombed they’re supposed to beg for another one.
It’s hard to tell what dear craig believes, because he never gives direct answers to direct questions. It’s all insinuation and whataboutery and rhetorically clever table-turning.
Obvious blowback.
Didn’t we assassinate a Taliban leader last week?No connection?
We are living in the land of nod.
craigsummers, noted supporter of ISIS, who has said that it’d be best if ISIS was allowed to overthrow Assad, (a theme promoted by ex-Israeli defense minister Ya’alon), and who also calls for the permanent second-class status of Arabs in Israel, is complaining about what, again?
I think “cynically using faux concern about human rights to push his agenda of hatred and fear” is a good description of what craigsummers is up to here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3492183/Dial-1-know-Jew-going-Arab-Shocking-campaign-group-Israel-sets-hotline-attack-mixed-marriages.html
I also seem to recall the attack on a gay pride parade in July 2015 by an rightwing Jewish religious fanatic. . . So are you going to condemn the entire Jewish religion for that act, as well? Really, you should be ashamed of yourself.
It is “good” to see that craigsummers bigotry is consistent!
“Good” in the sense the level of bigotry is shameless, and consistent in the sense that he consistently appeals to the basest instincts.
“…….craigsummers, noted supporter of ISIS, who has said that it’d be best if ISIS was allowed to overthrow Assad…..”
Yea, I supported ISIS overthrowing Assad because Assad is by far the biggest human rights abuser in Syria. No one else even comes close. That means I don’t support the US bombing ISIS in Syria, but I do in Iraq. For geopolitical purposes, it weakens the axis of evil: Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Russia. It especially undermines Iran and Lebanon (Hezbollah). You are lying when you say I am a “supporter” of ISIS however. I am not a supporter of any radical Islamic organization.
“……I also seem to recall the attack on a gay pride parade in July 2015 by an rightwing Jewish religious fanatic. . . So are you going to condemn the entire Jewish religion for that act, as well? Really, you should be ashamed of yourself……”
Do you see the difference between 10 countries which treat homosexuality as a capital crime and one attack by a fanatical Jew? That is state condoned murder, OK? Somewhat different possibly?
Zionists are the biggest human right deniers in world history.
This may have more to do with homophobia than Islam, if recent news is accurate:
http://usuncut.com/news/orlando-gunman-pulse-regular/
Maybe.
Nah,even though it seems he was a self hating LGBT guy,this is blowback.
Blowback is an disallowed sentiment expressed by free people who escape the domination of Zion.The term undercuts all their serial lies.
Everyone says Trump is a fascist. But I just saw a performance from Dianne Feinstein that vastly surpasses anything Trump ever said. She was explaining how her bill would have allowed the Attorney General, after two FBI investigations *failed* to find any dirt on Salha, to *keep* him on a terror watch list indefinitely. And being on that list, according to her bill, apparently would then mean not only being denied the right to fly, but being the right to buy guns or explosives. So we are *beyond* the point where people are guilty until proven innocent. We’re to the point now where accusation is guilt and there can never be innocence, no matter what an investigation finds. And if someone is banned from buying guns, how can he be allowed to buy a 3D printer? Or fertilizer with some ammonia nitrate content? Or a tractor he might weld armor into and drive through town as an improvised tank? So he better not be a widget-maker, or a farmer, what else can’t he be? It’s the final end of America’s vestigial judiciary system.
*Standing Ovation*
Feinstein is a Zionist,What else does one need to see that she is poopie cockie?
When are Americans to awaken to our plight of dual citizen government on America?
Truth. ^^^^
You hit the nail on the head. The Constitution is under siege from both neoliberal left and neocon right. The Clintons, Bushes and Feinstein have made our Government a hundreds of millions family business where our elected “representatives” dial for dollars and allow corporate lobbyists to write legislation. I hate the alternative but no more dynasty for me. If Trump wins this is why.
Here is my poem to Feinstein. If I could just fine a great composer like Ted Nugent to put it to song, we would have music worthy of our current governance.
To my American girl.
For you service to the police state.
From your secret admirer, Fred Cowan, Soldier and Scientist, LOL XXX.
Spymaster Queen
She my Spy Master Queen
Finest Lady you ever seen
A lady with a ticket to Halls of Power Ball
A lady who has already humped us all.
I want to see her dressed in leathers, jack boots and whip.
Love to bend her head back and spread her lips
Just to give the dark- side a big French-kiss.
Drones in the air and murder plots
All her violence makes me HOT.
Bin’s action plan put it all in motion.
Made police state America an executable notion
Mr. Snowden, don’t dare speak truth to power
Don’t you be so brash,
My girl will polish her jack-boots in your “traitor” ass.
Some say she is paid to not see, a “democracy dissenter.”
It Ok the blowback has made her a “One Percenter (1%)”
Politicians blackmail or bribed, Constitutions in the shedder.
So bust a cap in Bin’s ass so we all can feel better.
a few things
1 “Look, we’re led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind,” Trump told Fox News early Monday. “There’s something going on. It’s inconceivable. There’s something going on. … He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands — it’s one or the other and either one is unacceptable.”
OR – he’s got something else in mind…
DT is not a stupid man. He is as shrewed and smart as President Obama, do not kid yourself. That something else might very well be that President Obama has been played without knowing it. IF the saudis are indeed behind 911, because surely Saddam Hussein was not, then why sell them weapons? Why would the saudis attack us? Why would G Bush have looked so shocked unless perhaps he figured something else of much less harm was to happen and he was crossed? Maybe he was easily stupified, if so easily conned, by his friends tho? Who would stand to benefit from a major christian moslem conflict?
2 his call for temporarily banning Muslim migration to the United States “until we can figure out what’s going on” Here DT is only hinting that there is something we dont know because Iraq didn’t attack us, the Saudis could not have attacked us, UBL was quoted as having nothing to do with US and was only interested in afghanistan. The “he did it” was a cia translation, like wmd. So who would benefit from a major christian moslem conflict?
3 Gaffney gave an award to Dick Cheney about february 2009. Gaffney is a serious wacko pushing hard for a conflict being and supported by whom? Who would benefit from a major christian moslem conflict?
4 There are a lot of questions about the WTC attack that are unresolved. What is being proposed by the wallstreet media are more wmd lies. Who would benefit from a major christian moslem conflict?
The US currency system is hitting the brick wall. The ability of the wallstreet bankster thieves to loan money faster than it’s being repaid from the current circulation would necessitate the lowering of prices to match the cash flow. But wallstreet thieves arent interested in lowering prices. To compensate for the loss M3 (cash in economy) wallstreet thieves issue more loans to create debt to raise prices – substituting credit card debt for cash flow loss. Wallstreet bankster thieves wanted to pump-it-up with their fony housing scam – that didnt work either. (except it worked for their own personal thieveing ways). And how does the insidious rothschild currency system work? What is the active property of the scheme? LOANS. Who is paying gaffney and company? Who is supporting Obama’s droning and mininuke program instead of American infrastructure? Who would benefit from a major christian moslem conflict?
The ones who would benefit are the very ones that bring Craigsummers to this site.
no one seems to have or want to answer the Right question.
Question or answer?The answer is Zionism.
@Sulai
@Fred Cowan
@dahoit
learned men
:-)
To be fair to Trump, his first response was a cliched “pray for the families” kind of tweet. The “yes followers, I was right, thanks for noticing” tweet came afterwards.
“Donald you ignorant slut” — thanks SNL
Just remember it’s a fact free zone whenever the #whinylittlebitch opens his mouth. (we can trial ballon insults too)
Scott Adams really nailed his behavior when he was a guest on RealTime two weeks ago. Persuasion has nothing to do with facts, but everything to do with how our brain processes input. It also explains why he will never apologize. The first apology will train everyone to expect the second and so on…
Regan may have been known as the Great Communicator, but this clown has taken the title of the Great Manipulator to a whole new level.
Scott Adams also really nailed the left’s behavior when he endorsed Hillary Clinton (for his own safety as a public figure.) If you think Adams was trying to bash Donald, you must not be paying attention. He is a full fledged conductor aboard the Trump Train.
Donald Trump’s populist positions are in direct conflict with his financial interests, but to be fair this is an entirely normal phenomenon among the U.S. political class. For example, Saudi investment in U.S. real estate, part of the petrodollar recycling scheme set up in the 1970s under the Ford Administration, has benefited Donald Trump:
http://qz.com/568178/donald-trump-owes-much-of-his-fortune-to-wea/
Wealthy Muslims helped Donald Trump build his empire, Dec 07, 2015
This, however, is no different from Hillary Clinton proudly championing LGBT and women’s rights while pulling down millions of donations for the Clinton Foundation from the world’s most homophobic and misogynistic dictatorships.
Similarly, Trump’s right-wing populist attempts to demonize immigrants from Mexico, Central and South America are not in line with his reliance on such immigrants as a cheap source of labor for his various business operations, such as the Palm Beach luxury resort Mar-A-Lago, 787 such immigrants having been imported since 2006:
“Donald Trump’s companies sought visas to import at least 1,100 workers”
Reuters Jul. 31, 2015
This is just part of the trend under NAFTA, which was jointly supported by Republicans and Democrats from Clinton to Bush under the ideology of globalization. One rarely-cited example of how this works is that NAFTA allowed U.S. agribusiness to dump subsidized American corn on Mexican markets, driving small farmers out of business, creating a vast unemployed group in Mexico willing to migrate to the U.S. to work for sub-minimum wages, in turn driving down wages across the board and thus enriching Wall Street – a one-two sucker punch.
This kind of behavior is not limited to Trump, he’s just more brazen than most. The Clintons also loudly claimed that NAFTA was this wonderful economic program that would raise standards of living in Mexico and the United States; they just left out the part that it would only raise those standards for wealthy elites, while destroying the middle class in both countries.
The actual truth is that we have a pair of two-faced bullshit artists running for President, whose lies are covered for by their apologists in Congress (Pelosi and Ryan) and by those other experienced bullshit artists who work for the corporate media. This has been the presidential tradition ever since Nixon, as HS Thompson put it:
In such a situation, the only political action that makes any sense is to attempt to reverse the unconstitutional growth in the power of the executive branch of the federal government, such that whoever is (s)elected will find it impossible to implement their agenda, which is sure to be a bad one.
Solid post and spot on. Both of their incestuous relationships with WS need to be hammered home, again and again.
Might I point out that FDR was also of the patrician class,but who worked for the American people,and welcomed co wealthy hatred!
Trump and rich people make more hay when every bodies boat is lifted.
Suppose that cracking down on immigrants and cracking down on guns, some unholy alliance of enforcers from the right and left, could cut down the number of people shot at the tactical level. The problem is that this all comes at a cost – money taken away from suicide prevention programs and social safety nets, which means for example more gay kids who are turned on by bigoted families die. Money taken away from AIDS research, and so the 20,000 yearly dying from that just keeps on going. Inside or outside the gay community, is it so much better to die by disease or heartbreak than to die by some freak’s bullet? At least in the terrorist scenario the fucker has to look you in the eye.
You’re assuming this is a zero sum game but governments who control the money supply aren’t limited in this way. If a government decides to go to war they don’t then immediately raise everyone’s taxes to pay for it, rather they will create a bunch of new money out of nothing which has the same effect (everyone’s money is now worth less).
I think there’s a disconnnect between the arguments of the left and right over gun control. A leftist might point to the number of mass shootings and the level of gun ownership in the US, whereas often the argument on the right is that guns are needed to oppose a tyranical state. No amount of mass shootings will change your mind if what you’re worried about is the government.
Every time someone shoots up a school, a nightclub or magazine office, the same arguments come out immediately and nothing ever changes because the arguments of each side don’t address the other’s.
The “it’s only money, let’s print it” argument is available to spies, defense contractors, and jailers, but it is not available to scientists, teachers, and social workers. Inevitably that unprivileged category hears about the Debt Clock and the imminent bankruptcy of America and how it means that whatever they are doing, they need to stop doing. So yes, it *is* a zero sum game, except for a few well connected vendors who can cheat a bit.
Gun control conundrum;Criminals get guns outside of legal avenues,so it would be a futile endeavor,at least in stopping crime or terror.
Substitute Jews for Muslims and whose rhetoric is it now?
Keep rolling your piehole Donald. You will sink the Republican party to the bottom of the sea. Where it belongs. I look forward to it.
@Ted –
One can only hope. It’s a shame how low the party of Lincoln, Thaddeus Stevens and even Eisenhower has sunk to.
This just shows again how dangerous this nutjob is.
The rep party is dead,and the demoncrat on life support.This is an election about American patriotism and direction,not bound by party lines.
Why do you thing every rethug hates Trump?And why half of democrats hate the Hell Bitch?(your idol)
@dahoit –
Ah, I have to agree with some of that. It’s really a shame that our choices are so bad this election season.
And contrary to your assumption, that female candidate is NOT my idol. Sorry to disappoint you.
No, I haven’t publicly endorsed ANY candidate. And I’m not likely to. I’ve only expressed disdain for a certain billionaire nutjob. And concern over his success and the mentality of some of his supporters.
And I’m a) shaking my head at all the nasty rhetoric and b) so very concerned about where we’re headed – WHOEVER ends up on PA Ave..