Donald Trump told CBS News over the weekend that the United States should consider religious and ethnic profiling to prevent terror attacks.
“I think profiling is something that we’re going to have to start thinking about as a country,” Trump said. “Other countries do it, you look at Israel and you look at others, they do it and they do it successfully. And I hate the concept of profiling, but we have to start using common sense and we have to use our heads.”
Israel’s most systematic use of racial profiling occurs at its borders and has been rife with abuses that stand in contrast with American values of equal treatment and safeguarding personal liberties.
The Arab American Institute has collected stories of Arab and Muslim Americans who have been harassed or detained while entering Israel. They offer a window into the human impact of racial profiling.
For example, Najwa Doughman, a New York City architect with no ties to terrorism, was sent to a waiting room in Israel’s Ben-Gurion Airport after being asked what her father’s name was. “Bassam,” she replied, setting off what she later called a “14-hour nightmare.” During an extended interrogation, she said she was asked questions like “Do you feel more Arab or American?” and was subjected to an invasive pat-down where she was asked to remove her clothes. After an overnight stay at a detention facility, she was denied access to the country and put on a plane to France.
“It’s an issue serious enough that our own State Department has a travel advisory that’s posted permanently on the website that advises anyone who is traveling to Israel basically to expect this kind of treatment, if they are of Arab American background,” Maya Berry, executive director of AAI, told The Intercept.
Even former senior government officials are not exempt from Israel’s system of profiling. Former Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, who was president of the University of Miami at the time, was detained and questioned for nearly three hours during a trip through Ben-Gurion Airport in 2010. Shalala is of Lebanese Christian descent.
If the U.S. were to adopt this level of intrusive, racially based profiling, it wouldn’t be the first time officials adopted an Israeli security program. A former chief security officer at the Israel Airports Authority helped design the Transportation Security Administration’s (TSA) Screening Passengers by Observation Techniques (SPOT) program, a sort of checklist that TSA officers use to identify suspicious passengers. In interviews with The Intercept last year, a number of former TSA officers decried the program’s checklist as “ridiculous” and a “license to harass.”
Pragmatists in the U.S. intelligence and security communities oppose racial and ethnic profiling. Former Department of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff explained that, shortly after the September 11 attacks, Bush administration officials briefly debated the use of profiling in response to terrorism. “There was a unanimous belief that racial and religious profiling would not only be ineffective, but counterproductive from a security standpoint,” he said. “The problem with using racial and religious profiling is it takes you down a road to looking at people who you don’t need to look at and avoiding looking at people that you should look at.”
That would be the obvious conclusion from former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s secret spying program that targeted Muslim New Yorkers. For years, the New York Police Department mapped and infiltrated Muslim communities, using only their religious identity as justification for targeting. Yet this massive religious-profiling program did not generate a single terrorism case.
Racial profiling can also have lethal results. A Washington Post investigation published last year found that African Americans make up a disproportionate number of traffic-stop deaths; the findings corresponded with other studies that show that blacks have a higher chance of being pulled over by police, an event that can lead to deadly confrontations.
Additionally, a 2009 study authored by a leading statistician found that racial profiling is no more effective than a random screening.
Given these facts, there has been progress in officially curtailing the use of this form of profiling.
Then-Attorney General Eric Holder issued new guidelines in late 2014 barring federal law enforcement from profiling based on gender, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, and race. Those rules explicitly exempted airports and border crossings.
When you see the MSM about face on their Trump demonization,and start Shillary bashing,the fix will be in.
Nah,she’s made a deal with Zion,as in one hand washes the other,and their minions,fuggetaboutit.
And,unfortunately,as in Israel,our security is under threat,and pointing out Israeli tactics that do work ,although prejudicial and selective,is a vote getting issue with the American public.
It all started in 48,and now our Constitutional protections are dying for Zion.
America first.Yankee come home,please?
I don’t get it. How do the jews manage to profile other arabs? The dumb jews are nothing but arabs. Jews look like ordinary arabs. And viceversa…
If the “dumb jews are nothing but arabs” then you certainly have a host of people to hate and fear. Secondly, I should very much like to know just what Jews and Ordinary Arabs look like. Have you met any extraordinary Arabs? If not I can certainly help you out there!
At least 194 Jews have been awarded the Nobel Prize. Jewish population of the world is 16 million.
12 Muslims have been awarded the Nobel Prize, half of them received Nobel Peace Prize (that includes bloody murderer Yassir Arafat). Muslim population of the world is 1.6 billion (including 338 million arabs).
Who is dumb now? Do the math.
You have to profile, but damn jews are dirty desert people, and so are towlhead muslims, lol. Who can really tell any of them apart?
Good. Start profiling all the Jews too.
On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2015. According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%).
These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.
These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.
The irony is that, shortly after he ran this line of racist bull past the American public and media, a man at one of his gun free zone rallies (yes, for all the derision of gun free zones, Trump events are held in them, with everyone forced to surrender their rights to private security guards and government agents who literally want to ‘take your guns right out of your hands) tried to grab a gun from one of the armed security with the admitted intention of shooting Trump. But, because he was a white Christian (with a British accent, no less) he would never have been looked at under the policy Trump endorses (for the red meat value, doubt even he thinks race/religion profiling is effective, but it sure energizes his base of loud haters and might get him some of the polite ones votes, too) even though he had been planning that attack attempt (strangely sparsely covered by the NA media, though mentioned in the British media because he’s a British citizen)
Wha?The assassination attempt on the POTUS candidate that died faster than the story of the 28 pages,as the MSM moves on to more Trump bashing?
Imagine the furor of some right wing nut doing that to the hell bitch?They’d put her poll numbers in the plus side at last,in propaganda for her.
There are many people of color at Trump rallies,and to blame it on Trumps alleged racism is idiotic.
The whole thing died because their is no sympathy for the Donald in Zionland.
DT did NOT call for “racial” profiling. He called for a profile standard to be used as israel does for air travel. Believe it or not, DT is not a racist. He is not a separatist. And her really does hate the idea of having to profile people. Profiling assumes that people are not equally good.
Until the gov we own (or are supposed to) guarantees everyone life support, earnable comfort, clawback of wealth in the face of poverty, and a replacement currency system, we’re screwed.
free and clear is wallstreet’s fear.
In the perfect world,or at least the world before Zion,racial profiling would be wrong.We no longer live in any sort of world order,and to knowingly put at risk Americans for scoring hypocritical humanity points is no longer an option for Americans.
How is it possible,when the exact thing Trump railed against,improper screening of Muslim immigrants,is writ large in Orlando,his poll numbers drop?
Manufacturing dissent.
Because anyone with half a brain recognizes that is nonsense; the killer’s parents came over in Afghan exodus of c.1979 related to the Soviet invasion and the U.S./Saudi/Pakistani response (supporting the ‘freedom fighters’ like Osama bin Laden). Remember when the ‘radical Islamists’ were welcomed by Reagan with open arms as our allies against the Godless Communists? Here’s your pal Reagan welcoming the Taliban to America in the 1980s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H86B-7fbqD0
So yes, everyone except a few fanatic far-right nutcases recognizes that profiling Muslims is not the issue here; that’s why Trump’s numbers dropped. It was a really idiotic move, doubling down on race-baiting when the issue is now the general election, instead of focusing on Hillary Clinton’s disastrous foreign policy of regime change in Libya and Syria, which greatly helped ISIS in their rise to power and global prominence, or her stupid free trade agenda.
But maybe Trump just decided to start sucking up to Wall Street and the arms dealers and the international financiers, so he didn’t want to touch those issues and tried to go with race-baiting and bigotry. Miscalculation, wasn’t it? Or maybe just his true colors shining through.
All I can say again is that our Constitution is dying for Zion and the war of terror.
I didn’t ask for it,I am against the whole shebang,but to not recognize situational changes is a sure recipe for more disaster.
The 19,whomever they were,were improperly screened.The guy in San B s wife was improperly screened.The Tsarnaevs,whatever,were improperly screened.
If you won’t get it,it must be pedantic pig headedness.
Anything that exposes the criminal zionists to the disinfectant of sunlight is welcome by me,no matter the intent.
Maybe there was intent?
Yes, because Israel is the only country in the world who uses profiling. Other than every other country in the world.
Yes,there is truth to that,but why defend the worst offender?
Mr. Trump is overlooking the obvious; that most acts of terrorism are committed by men. Placing all men on the no-fly list and no gun-purchase list would have a number of subsidiary benefits, apart from the obvious ones. It would probably lead to the development of a high speed train network, such as exists in most technologically advanced countries. And it would probably also lead to the development of advanced personal use laser weapons, that would be far more efficient (and lethal) than guns.
Mentally unstable people working with the CIA/FBI to cause emotional fear in Americans, to take away our God given rights, will not be victorious. The left has abbandoned it’s LGBT fan club for Islam and Trump is gaining many new voters. You definitely do not sound like an American with this 6 year old mentality. Do you know cars kill hundreds of thousands a year, pharmecuticals kill hundreds of thousands a year, jobs kill people, nature kills thousands, ect……would you like to ban these things?
Hey, guess what? Governments have killed billions of people throughout time. Mussolini, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, ect….. They all took the guns because they couldn’t perform their exterminations (opposition) if the people had them. You sheeple need to read history to understand something. I’m sorry they don’t teach this in Public “common core” schools anymore. The Government wants you leftist stupid, so they can keep extorting from you, your votes, your taxes, ect, and the DNC said f*ck you voters, we will do what we want. Yes, Debbie Wasserman Shultz is laughing at you voting, you thinking your time or vote really matters to them?
—Questions to the left who fail to look at history or facts.
1) What is “Operation Northwoods”?
2) What was executive order 11110?
3) Who are the Rothschild’s?
4) Who funded Hiltler?
5) What was enacted Dec. 23, 1913?
6) Why does a Private Company print US $?
7) Who owns the Federal Reserve?
8) What does Ch7 verse 80-84 in Quaran say?
9) Do Islamist want Sharia Law instead of Constitution?
10) Why don’t we ban murder and make it illegal? ……oh yeah and drugs so we can eliminate those from our society?
And question 10 is for all you idiots that think banning something will eliminate it. All it does is open up a black market and creates more criminals.
-If you Liberals, Socialist, Communist, and Conservatives break off from these bullsh*t labels and realize that FREEDOM is the only moral way to live. It is a simple philosophy.
If you want to learn….please YouTube Doug Casey “best anarchist speech” or “Doug Casey and Phil Donnahue”.
I challenge anyone to watch these videos and start thinking for yourself.
——The only 2 laws people need to live by—-
1) Don’t aggress against anyone or their property.
2) Do all that you say you will do. (Meaning contracts).
-Other than this, all laws are immoral and should be abolished.
People defend Islam and Muslims because left right or middle humans who love fact and truth know they are victims,just like us,not the perps, of USzion.
Truth and fact have no ideological blinders.
Orlando June 2016, New York and Washington 9/11, San Bernardino December 2015, Paris November 2015, Mumbai November 2008 … what do these terrorist massacres all have in common? They were all committed by Muslims. The victims are the thousands of people slaughtered, not the Muslims who committed these acts of barbarism. It’s time for you to accept responsibility and own up to the extremists in your midst, and stop scapegoating Israel.
If Israel was the light unto nations as claimed,I and the world would cheer and be totally supportive.
My Israel bashing is mainly because my govt underwrites all their crimes.When the US govt becomes a neutral actor in this insane conflict,it will end,as wo US,Israel will either be forced into a just and fair peace,or self destruct.
Are you comfortable with the current situation?
A mental institution of poor crazed by violence perps and repressed for 70?years victims,also shell shocked ?
A madhouse.We need an end to this shite.now.
Dude, I’m not even sure what your trying to say? Are you saying Muslims are the victims? If so……
I agree that the US government along with Saudi Arabia and NATO are causing all the destabilization in the Middle East. The Muslims have been fighting among each other for 100’s of years and cannot get along, but NATO and the US seem to want to bring them to a Christian based culture? Now this is leading to what you are seeing in Paris, Brussels, Boston, San Bernadino, Orlando, Texas, ect..
Yes, I would be pissed off at America if I was a Muslim knowing that Obama was drone striking weddings with children. Yes, Chris Kyle was a criminal murderer. Chris Kyle was a mercenary murderer that worked with the US Government to help carry out their destabilization.
I do not think we should let Islamist in America right now. Immigration is leaving or running from something. What are all these immigrants running from? Why leave Mexico if you love Mexico. If you love Islam well stay in the Middle East where your religion is law of the land.
This is what people do not understand. When you have Islam being the largest religion in the world and America being a Democracy, what will this lead to? This will lead to an America that abolishes all the laws on the books and adopts Sharia Law.
I’m sure all you gays and women will be loving that? This is what they believe.
Quara Ch.7 verse 80-84 says to kill gays and I don’t feel like looking up the verse that says kill women if they cheat, but God will forgive the men that cheat because “he is merciful”. Makes no f*cking sense. Anyone that is a Muslim I will debate you on the Quaran anytime.
Government should be abolished and FREEDOM, non-violent philosophies need to be established.
I also agree with not letting Islamist in the country.
Hey dude,you sound like a sports fan;Whats the score?Palestinians and Muslims dead since 48 by USzion;A few million give or take 10 more million who knows?
I bet more American soldiers have died in our misadventures in the ME (91 on?)than in Israels total existence.
What a joke.
What is property?
Why? Always? How about reconsidering a poor decision?
What is a contract?
Property is everything that you own and work for. The most important piece of property you own is YOURSELF. You own your body, you own the fruits of your labor, and you own the goods you purchase.
Did you know that no one owns land in the US except the Federal Government?
We are all merely renters.
Don’t pay your property tax and they will steal your land from you.
I’m saying do all that you say your going to do meaning “in contracts”. A contract is a legal agreement between two people, corporation, business or whatever.
For example, if I have a contract with a builder to build me a house. I give him 20% down and he doesn’t do anything for me. This is theft and stealing someone’s property. But also it is illegal because it is Stealing.
So technically you could just have The 1st law I listed, but the “contract” helps cover what the agreement was and how the Theft took place.
So he wants to make America an apartheid state!
It already is.Ask Ferguson.Brought to US by Zioglobalization,the ghetto made even more desperate.
How many suicide bombings or hijackings has Israel seen since implementing profiling? Zero.
the end justfies the means ?
A couple of ways to stop this radical Islamic jihad terrorism BS is to profile anybody from a Muslim country In conjunction with eliminatnating our favorite nation status with evil Saudis and pull completely out of the Middle East. When the vacuum is filled with the tribe of the hr open a proper embassy send in spies and start doing business but zero military business. We’ve tried everything else why give this a chance!
“The problem with using racial and religious profiling is it takes you down a road to looking at people who you don’t need to look at and avoiding looking at people that you should look at.”
Really? How many terrorists during Obama’s term have been non-Muslim? Another biased article from the Intercept.
Given the 30,000+ people killed each year by gun violence, I would have to guess there were a LOT of non-islamic people who were not looked at.
Dinosaur Trump and Wall Street Hillary can call for all sorts of stupid and altruistic things as they campaign. However, when it is over they will just do what their wealthy citizen, rich foreign, and corporate funders direct them to do via lobbyists.
Zaid put together another fine article. I was a little taken back when I read:
“…stand in contrast with American values of equal treatment and safeguarding personal liberties”, but then I realized he did not mean our government’s values, he meant regular people’s values. People like us as was reflected in the spirit of the lyrics written in 1943 by Abel Meeropol and sung by Frank Sinatra:
The house I live in…
But especially the people
That’s America to me
Triceratops Trump and Tyrannosaurus hell bitch.
He’s the vegetarian.
lol. how about a new species, Hillasaurus or Hillarysaurus.
Trump never said “racial profiling”. He said to profile Muslims which makes perfect sense because 100% of radical Islamic terrorists are Muslim and zero % are not. That means, if we are looking for Islamic terrorists, it would be smart to profile Muslims and stupid not to. Also, we couldn’t racially profile Muslims if we wanted to. Muslims are all races and nationalities.
From a linkwithin the article:
Too bad Orlando had what I assume is your plan B – hear no evil, see no evil, because you might be accused of Islamophobia or racism or something.
Ask the families of the dead around the world which name they prefer.
Aside from her leading role in the Clinton Global Initiative and Massage, here is what she had to say about her “humiliating” treatment upon exiting Israel:
“While I was inconvenienced, Israel’s security and the security of travelers is far more important,” said Shalala, who is of Lebanese decent. “I have been going in and out of Israel for many years and expect to visit again.”
Her inconvenience was so great that she didn’t miss her flight.
There haven’t been any terrorist attacks in NYC either. Your quote proves nothing but that. Had there been a planned terrorist attack it is highly possible Bloomberg’s policy might have detected that attack before it happened.
Actually,a Pakistani? immigrant tried to blow up a car in NYC,but was thwarted by a local business guy,who was Muslim? too.
Bloomberg is in on the scam,totally.Zion central,and no, he didn’t warn NYers.
If your favorite, incredibly expensive waste of time NYPD spying program was such a smashing success, why do you think they eliminated it?
From Democracy Now from over two years ago when the shitty spying program was ended:
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/16/new_york_drops_police_unit_that
Yeah, and since there are only 1.6 billion Muslims in the world to profile, and the overwhelming majority believe that violence against civilians is never justified, well . . . you’d better get on with that profiling, Robert. I don’t envy you the job. No rest for the clueless.
splendid idea, profiling 1.6 billion people, think of the money to be made, think of jobs to be created;
ordinary profiler , senior profiler, expert profiler, consultant profiler, PROFILER Inc.
Of course, most terrorism is not Islamic in origin. White Supremacists, anti-choicers, and other reich-wingers commit far more terrorism in the US than Muslims do…
God, what a fucking idiot you are. You have zero understanding of the entire USA vs. Muslim conflict we’ve been enduring since…erm…the colonial period pre-WWI. There would not be any Muslim problem if the USA and Europe did not invade, occupy, bomb, sanction, and steal oil from the Middle East Arab countries. WE started it. They reacted to our colonial and imperial crimes against them by understandably fighting back. Further: you’ve bought into the entire fabricated “war on terror” which was invented to justify invading and occupying Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly Iran next. The “war on terror” was invented to serve Israel’s geo-political aims which is to totally subjugate ALL Arab countries surrounding it, install puppet dictators who serve USA/Israel/EU interests, and further to deliberately create failed states with Arabs killing each other (Sunni vs. Shia). Further the actual number of Muslim terror attacks on US soil are so small as to be negligible. Final comment: did you actually read the article? Either you didn’t you’re so stupid that you didn’t comprehend its contents: Chertoff said “The problem with using racial and religious profiling is it takes you down a road to looking at people who you don’t need to look at and avoiding looking at people that you should look at.” They tried it and it didn’t work.
Totally agree with causation etc.but racial profiling does work,and has been used by police for centuries?
It’s a false argument,sort of like the torture argument.Torture is wrong and abhorrent,but it works,at least sometimes,and it has been current for millennia.
We are not living in the world of law and justice anymore,its been destroyed by Zion and its agents,the MSM.
This boigus argument is divide and conquer by dual citizen traitors,who initiated the whole disaster which produced the torture.
A snowball downhill.
What’s MSM?
Also 100% of all terrorists attacks is cause by human, better expand the profiling for maximum security.
The American values cited in the article no longer exist because that America no longer exists. We are currently at war in Africa, Asia and throughout Middle East. We have boots on the ground in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Yemen, Jordan, Afghanistan, Pakistan. We are threatening war against China and Russia. America is in a state of emergency. The president has emergency powers. He has had emergency powers since 911.
These alleged “American values” belong to another era, another America.
Exactly, except for they are still in people like you that care.
Of course profiling works!! Works for Israel!! Best to keep them out of the country!
That Israeli policy sounds like it might put an interesting hole in anti-BDS laws. If a company has an officer of Arab descent, who is advised by the State Department not to go to Israel, it stands to reason that it could make a uniform policy effectively preventing business with Israeli companies – but do so impartially, by writing up a carefully worded policy against doing business with any country to which its officers have been advised not to travel. No?
The problem with your theory is that those anti-human rights activity laws are written (and interpreted) by those who are willfully blind to the racism that is the Israeli regime’s Apartheid policies and laws, so trying to claim the lesser aspect of the racism of the Israeli regime (profiling those who might be of the actual majority ethnic group of the legal population of Israel, and harassing and worse them) would be a way to get around a law designed to protect the greater aspect of the racism of the Israeli regime (the denial of citizenship, residency, and voting rights to the majority of the legal population of Israel on ethnic lines) seems a faint hope. Even if you somehow found a judge willing to rule it so, and not have it be overturned by the ever more politicized higher courts, the same forces that brought in the laws and policies that are aimed at banning human rights activities against a regime committing a crime against humanity would result in a new perversion of the law exempting the Israeli regime from that ruling.
Speaking of “Apartheid,” what about religious and gender “Apartheid” practiced in the Arab world. Women are second-class citizens, chattels and sex objects actually, in Arab regimes, none of which are democratically ruled and subjected to “Female Genital Mutilation” as a matter of culture. Christians and Jews are barred from living in many Arab countries, particularly Saudi-Arabia, and the few that allow them within their borders, subject them to second-class status, such as Egypt, where Coptic Christians are frequently murdered with impunity, and Iran, where the few Jews who remain are subject to surveillance and second-class citizenship.
After 1948-49, when Israel won its “War of Independence,” about 850,000 Jews were expelled from Arab nations and taken in as refugees by Israel. They received no U.N. resettlement aid and have no “Right of Return” to their former homelands. Yet, Arabs displaced from Israel during that period, are “perpetual hereditary refugees,” the recipients of their own U.N. refugee agency, the U.N. Relief and Works Agency,” separate from the “U.N. High Commission for Refugees.” See: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/09/17/the-only-refugees-in-the-world-denied-the-right-of-resettlement
No nation, under continuous attack since its founding, is going to allow the entry of hostile “Fifth Columnists!”
While Israel has reached peace agreement with Egypt and Jordan, Palestinians refuse to engage in direct negotiations toward a two-state solution. Hamas, in particular, as set forth in Article 13 of its Covenant, rejects all non-violent forms of conflict resolution in favor of perpetual war against Israel. Read it at: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp After three unsuccessful wars of aggression which cost Hamas considerable death and devastation in Gaza, they are preparing for a fourth, likely to result in a similar outcome.
While previous Israeli governments, particularly those of Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert, had offered Palestinians statehood in exchange for peace, no Palestinian leadership had yet emerged to take them up on those offers. The Netanyahu government has not extended those offers and most likely Palestinian intransigence has already cost them East Jerusalem and most settlements, which would have been evacuated had it been accepted. Palestinian “rejectionists,” driven by an arrogant, greedy, self-centered sense of entitlement to “all the land between the river (Jordan) and the sea (Mediterranean),” will remain stateless as long as “compromise” is not in their lexicon. Israel has had to frequently invoke Article 51 of the United Nations Charter, recognizing an “inherent right to individual, or collective self-defense.” As Thucydides, Historian of the Peloponnesian War phrased it in the Melian Debate, “the strong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must.”
“After 1948-49, when Israel won its “War of Independence,” ”
hasbara 101 …
Israel is still stealing new land every day.
But this wouldn’t be a statement about the Israeli government – this would be a statement about the State Department. Oh, sure, the State Department could be browbeaten into removing their warning, but that involves increased work from people who fall into this trap without warning, and so there would be constant pushback, plus more bad publicity. The Israelis can only extend their authority so far, and making them take and hold objectives like this would use up some of their surplus strength.
“Donald Trump suggested that the United States use racial profiling like Israel to prevent mass attacks like the one in Orlando.”
So, White and/or Christian and/or Angry man.
71%, of mass shooters fit that profile. He could be first in line.
Except that, like with the Israeli regime’s profiling, it is not the worst offenders when it comes to attacks who will be targeted. After all, the ‘Settlers’ and the ‘Cleansers’ don’t get pulled aside for anything but a speedy escort to the front of the line.