Perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone who isn’t Hillary Clinton.
Secrecy is a virtual religion in Washington. Those who violate its dogma have been punished in the harshest and most excessive manner — at least when they possess little political power or influence. As has been widely noted, the Obama administration has prosecuted more leakers under the 1917 Espionage Act than all prior administrations combined. Secrecy in D.C. is so revered that even the most banal documents are reflexively marked classified, making their disclosure or mishandling a felony. As former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden said back in 2000, “Everything’s secret. I mean, I got an email saying, ‘Merry Christmas.’ It carried a top-secret NSA classification marking.”
People who leak to media outlets for the selfless purpose of informing the public — Daniel Ellsberg, Tom Drake, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden — face decades in prison. Those who leak for more ignoble and self-serving ends — such as enabling hagiography (Leon Panetta, David Petraeus) or ingratiating oneself to one’s mistress (Petraeus) — face career destruction, though they are usually spared if they are sufficiently Important-in-D.C. For low-level, powerless Nobodies-in-D.C., even the mere mishandling of classified information — without any intent to leak but merely to, say, work from home — has resulted in criminal prosecution, career destruction, and the permanent loss of security clearance.
This extreme, unforgiving, unreasonable, excessive posture toward classified information came to an instant halt in Washington today — just in time to save Hillary Clinton’s presidential aspirations. FBI Director James Comey, an Obama appointee who served in the Bush DOJ, held a press conference earlier this afternoon in which he condemned Clinton on the ground that she and her colleagues were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information,” including top-secret material.
Comey also detailed that her key public statements defending her conduct — i.e., that she never sent classified information over her personal email account and had turned over all “work-related” emails to the State Department — were utterly false; insisted “that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position … should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation”; and argued that she endangered national security because of the possibility “that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account.” Comey also noted that others who have done what Clinton did “are often subject to security or administrative sanctions” — such as demotion, career harm, or loss of security clearance.
Despite all of these highly incriminating findings, Comey explained, the FBI is recommending to the Justice Department that Clinton not be charged with any crime. “Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,” he said, “our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.” To justify this claim, Comey cited “the context of a person’s actions” and her “intent.” In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits, but it was more negligent and careless than malicious and deliberate.
Looked at in isolation, I have no particular objection to this decision. In fact, I agree with it: I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality, and if I were in the Justice Department, I would not want to see her prosecuted for it. I do think there was malignant intent: Using a personal email account and installing a home server always seemed to be designed, at least in part, to control her communications and hide them from FOIA and similar disclosure obligations. As the New York Times noted in May about a highly incriminating report from the State Department’s own Auditor General: “Emails disclosed in the report made it clear that she worried that personal emails could be publicly released under the Freedom of Information Act.”
Moreover, Comey expressly found that — contrary to her repeated statements — “the FBI also discovered several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000 that were returned by Secretary Clinton to State in 2014.” The Inspector General’s report similarly, in the words of the NYT, “undermined some of Mrs. Clinton’s previous statements defending her use of the server.” Still, charging someone with a felony requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.
But this case does not exist in isolation. It exists in a political climate where secrecy is regarded as the highest end, where people have their lives destroyed for the most trivial — or, worse, the most well-intentioned — violations of secrecy laws, even in the absence of any evidence of harm or malignant intent. And these are injustices that Hillary Clinton and most of her stalwart Democratic followers have never once opposed — but rather enthusiastically cheered. In 2011, Army Private Chelsea Manning was charged with multiple felonies and faced decades in prison for leaking documents that she firmly believed the public had the right to see; unlike the documents Clinton recklessly mishandled, none of those was top secret. Nonetheless, this is what then-Secretary Clinton said in justifying her prosecution:
I think that in an age where so much information is flying through cyberspace, we all have to be aware of the fact that some information which is sensitive, which does affect the security of individuals and relationships, deserves to be protected and we will continue to take necessary steps to do so.
Comey’s announcement also takes place in a society that imprisons more of its citizens than any other in the world by far, for more trivial offenses than any Western nation — overwhelmingly when they are poor or otherwise marginalized due to their race or ethnicity. The sort of leniency and mercy and prosecutorial restraint Comey extended today to Hillary Clinton is simply unavailable for most Americans.
What happened here is glaringly obvious. It is the tawdry byproduct of a criminal justice mentality in which — as I documented in my 2011 book With Liberty and Justice for Some — those who wield the greatest political and economic power are virtually exempt from the rule of law even when they commit the most egregious crimes, while only those who are powerless and marginalized are harshly punished, often for the most trivial transgressions.
Had someone who was obscure and unimportant and powerless done what Hillary Clinton did — recklessly and secretly install a shoddy home server and work with top-secret information on it, then outright lie to the public about it when they were caught — they would have been criminally charged long ago, with little fuss or objection. But Hillary Clinton is the opposite of unimportant. She’s the multimillionaire former first lady, senator from New York, and secretary of state, supported by virtually the entire political, financial, and media establishment to be the next president, arguably the only person standing between Donald Trump and the White House.
Like the Wall Street tycoons whose systemic fraud triggered the 2008 global financial crisis, and like the military and political officials who instituted a worldwide regime of torture, Hillary Clinton is too important to be treated the same as everyone else under the law. “Felony charges appear to be reserved for people of the lowest ranks. Everyone else who does it either doesn’t get charged or gets charged with a misdemeanor,” Virginia defense attorney Edward MacMahon told Politico last year about secrecy prosecutions. Washington defense attorney Abbe Lowell has similarly denounced the “profound double standard” governing how the Obama DOJ prosecutes secrecy cases: “Lower-level employees are prosecuted … because they are easy targets and lack the resources and political connections to fight back.”
The fact that Clinton is who she is: that is undoubtedly what caused the FBI to accord her the massive benefit of the doubt when assessing her motives. Her identity, rather than her conduct, was clearly a major factor in his finding nothing that was — in the words of Comey — “clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice.”
But a system that accords treatment based on who someone is, rather than what they’ve done, is the opposite of one conducted under the rule of law. It is, instead, one of systemic privilege. As Thomas Jefferson put it in a 1784 letter to George Washington, the ultimate foundation of any constitutional order is “the denial of every preeminence.” Hillary Clinton has long been the beneficiary of this systemic privilege in so many ways, and today, she received her biggest gift from it yet.
The Obama-appointed FBI director gave a press conference showing that she recklessly handled top-secret information, engaged in conduct prohibited by law, and lied about it repeatedly to the public. But she won’t be prosecuted or imprisoned for any of that, so Democrats are celebrating. But if there is to be anything positive that can come from this lowly affair, perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.
Top photo: Hillary Clinton leaves the stage during a break a in the Democratic presidential debate in Durham on Feb. 4, 2016.
The distinction, of course, is that Hillary was incredibly careless but didn’t intentionally betray any U.S. secrets. Snowden and Bradley Manning stole classified information regarding U.S. national security operations and put it out there for foreign governments, terrorists, and adversaries could see and benefit from it. And that is a huge difference. If Hillary stole information and gave it to foreign powers to use against us (like telling foreign governments how we spy on them, or explaining to terrorists how we intercept their communications), this would be very different and more like those other traitors.
Wrong on both counts. The distinction is irrelevant in Mrs. Clinton’s case, as the law makes no exception for carelessness vs. malicious intent. Snowden and Manning leaked to the public through journalistic outlets.
Snowden and Manning gave classified national security secrets to terrrorists, foreign governments, and everyone else through the media but putting it out to the world, which he of course knew included our adversaries. Hillary did NOT steal information, nor did she make it publicly available to our adversaries. I do not at all condone what she did, but there is a huge difference between her actions (being sloppy and careless) and their actions (intentionally giving security secrets that harm the U.S. and U.S. interests to our adversaries). Not even in the same ballpark.
She set up an unsecured server so she could communicate with the foreign bribers wo knowledge.
The definition of espionage and traitor.
First thing I thought when I read the title was “What about Gen. Betrayus, I mean Patraeus?”. Fortunately you covered that. For me but not for thee, the general principle of the State.
Our country is in rapid decline when the rule of law applies for ordinary citizens and not for the elite.
According to Comey, one of the things that would have made charges reasonable is “… indications of disloyalty to the United States”.
Have you no shame, sir?
I disagree with this: “I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality…” If you break secrecy laws for personal convenience, then that’s a criminal act, IMO. The reason is that it is so easy to say to a foreign actor, “Oh, I’ll use my private email server so that you can access my secret emails at will.” Completely impossible to prove, so it’s necessary to strictly protect against the possibility by making it a crime, which it is.
What secrets did she reveal?
The MSM won’t tell US.They love the creepy hell bitch for zion.
The names and contact info of numerous covert CIA personnel, for starters.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/06/will-hillary-clinton-get-favored-treatment.html
Glenn, you are as always logical and incisive. It is indeed one law for them and another for us, and it is despicable.
Am I the only one wondering why in hell Bill Clinton would have an email server in his basement already set up when he commented that he had only sent two emails in his life? What’s THAT all about? And how might it point to yet another lie on the part of Hillary, that she used it because it was there, and it wasn’t set up for her use exclusively (with malice aforethought)?
That’s a very good point – I’m surprised it hasn’t received attention but there are so many details to choose from.
The point I like to bring out is that this all happened because Hillary Clinton is basically incapable of using a desktop computer – as in, has never had a computer on her desk. It fair boggles the mind that someone can be getting all their information through the screen of a Blackberry.
How you can tell a member of the oligarchy: the law does not apply to them.
The fact is, Obama has always focused in, except for in two cases, on the most soft Policy items he could find to adjust. Only focusing on Soft Policy will not change the path of this nation to a successful, progressive path of economic advancement. It will just keep us teetering on the edge of self-destruction. Wall St and the too big to fail Big Banks will see to it that our economic structure is rotted away, from the bottom up, cleaning us out of our money, and putting it in their own pockets. Even if we have another depression, they will be fine, because they will have taken enough of our money to ride out the storm. That is how it works, and if Americans do not wake up and UNITE under the Plans to Change Policy that Bernie Sanders has outlined, and quickly and repeatedly demand that those policies be implemented, we are going to see declines rapidly snowball under Clinton. She WILL CHANGE NOTHING, unless YOU and I DEMAND that she make the logical, practical, HARD POLICY changes we need. She is not to be trusted with your futures or mine. We must make the difference by standing firmly with the Hard Policy ideas that Can Be Achieved, when YOU and I are willing to demand them!
“requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
With all respect, Glenn, if I accidentally speed, I can still be given a speeding ticket. The “gross negligence” part of the applicable statute covers lack of intent to harm. Provable intent to harm is not a standard that must be met.
I thought he made it clear he totally agrees with you.
Glenn Greenwald, this is the best article that I have read about the conclusion of Hillary’s email investigation. I always enjoy reading your articles and listening to your interviews. You know your facts and stand your ground, which I love. Since you actually do your research perhaps you could research the feasibility of switching our income tax system from the mess we have now to a system where we simply cap how much money any individual can make and how much profit a corporation is allowed to make. Anything over the cap would be used just as we use taxes today. Anyone who earns less than the cap would not pay taxes to support a government that favors the rich! I think we could set the cap high enough so that those who still believe that Capitalism is so much better than socialism would still have the familiar Capitalist system to work with. This would be kind of a cross between Capitalism and Socialism. I think it would work but I would respect your opinion about it more than anyone else’s opinion.
So I shouldn’t be concerned that a public official deliberately circumvented national security and open records, so that she could control her propaganda output to the public? Crooked Hillary, indeed! The Repos should just wait for Killary to be anointed president, then impeach her ass for high crimes. They did it to her hubbie over a blow job; they should nail her for blowing her job.
Well, if you think they are not planning on doing just that, you just sit back and watch. GOP most certainly will try “anything” they can to block her from any successful legislation, so we are about to have another Obama scenario. No change whatsoever. I won’t vote for T Rump, but I also won’t vote for tied at the hip to WALL STREET and the Banks, Hillary Clinton. Our nation’s middle class will continue to slide into ruin, and no one out there seems to get that. The Republicans are going to continue assisting the Filthy Rich Masters at stripping us of our jobs and ruining our infrastructure systems. We had better wake up quickly, and vote out as many Republicans as possible. The only hope we have as a nation is to unite and fight WITH Bernie Sanders against the doubling down of the elites’ decisions to further pull all money out of the middle class and dump it into their own pockets. Of course SOME Democrats will assist in the GOP plans, but it is always more possible to steer Dems to corrective action than it is to steer Republicans. That’s simply the historical fact.
“No change whatsoever” Wasn’t that the gist of her campaign? Status quo is exactly what the Dems desire, passing TPP, privatizing education and starting a new cold war notwithstanding.
People always seem to forget that Clinton has access to something that poor people or “lowly government employees” do not have; a high-powered defense team that has been preparing her case since it was first a faint whisper. That is the difference. Any prosecutor now realizes that with all the evidence that made up the “slam dunk” O.J. Simpson case, you need to make sure you have clear, definitive violations of preexisting regulations. Otherwise they risk getting “Cochraned”. Motive and intent are just as important as “evidence”. This is where they may be weakest because of the clear lack of adminstrative rules at State directing her to use only her issued email address for work, and the failure of State to ensure routine audits to determine that that was actually happening. Simply having a few examples of mishandling of classified data, does in fact make her careless. But it doesn’t mean she is capable of something more nefarious then being ill advised on this matter and capable of error, a very human condition.
OJ got off when he had 20 million dollars worth of lawyers, and got sentenced to hard time for far less when he’d run out of money for a ‘dream team’. Once a certain amount of money is involved, people seem able to get away with mass murder with impunity. Bush II anyone?
#RevokeHerClearance, anyone?
I ask this a lot;Can one name one instance of this criminal ever standing up for principle,justice or good govt. in her life?Every bad decision she’s made have all been mainstream idiotic follower horseshit,and not once,not once has she displayed any rational worldview or solutions for our myriad problems,instead she wants to double down on stupid.
And idiots think shes worthy?
Despite being an attorney Greenwald really missed the boat on this one. I would suggest he read with care this article: Banana Republic: “One System of Justice for the Powerful (Like Clinton) … and Another For Everyone Else”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/banana-republic-one-system-of-justice-for-the-powerful-like-clinton-and-another-for-everyone-else/5534599
But he will not see this comment or probably ever read the article. Given his position socially I think he needs to write a retraction article. It seems like he has accomplished the opposite of what he claims in the same article he wants to achieve. When even those who are not attorneys can see accurately what happened with Comey and Clinton, I wonder what was happening inside Glenn’s mind? I still suspect he could not quite take a stand that would alienate Clinton Democrats or was it his plutocratic backer?
Wow do you ever not get it. Don’t leave home without a compass.
You actually think GG cares about taking “a stand that would alienate Clinton Democrats” considering that nearly everything he writes pisses off Clintonites?
Have you the slightest clue about the trajectory of his career, or of the tone of most of articles on The Intercept, or of those of us who post here?
You have made a fool of yourself, you just haven’t got a clue. Get educated, buddy, you are out of it.
Maybe you are the fool. Glenn Greenwald rarely writes a whole article without slipping into some kind of vassalage to someone in power. His legal critique in this one must be to other attorneys willing to buy what even Comey himself doesn’t. Greenwald is not a leader but a server.
I have had a great deal of respect for, and been an avid supporter of, Glenn Greenwald because of the level of his speaking truth to power and telling it like it is, with some reservation(s) due to his apparent meeting(s) with “al CIAduh(!)” and/or the NSA concerning the release of the Snowden documents, which undermines trust of Greenwald, but this article even more seriously damages his credibility as far as I’m concerned, due to the hypocrisy portrayed therein.
While clearly delineating the FACT that Clinton received preferential treatment under the law, he also, quite hypocritically and inaccurately states, thus evidently condoning this unequal treatment under the law, “Looked at in isolation, I have no particular objection to this decision (not to recommend charges against, and prosecution of, Clinton). IN FACT, I AGREE WITH IT: I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality, and if I were in the Justice Department, I would not want to see her prosecuted for it…”.
Any yet, if it had been virtually any non-privileged person who perpetrated what Clinton did, such as those Greenwald speaks of as follows, “…those who are powerless and marginalized are harshly punished, often for the most trivial transgressions”, charges would have issued and they would have been prosecuted, probably far beyond the fullest extent of the law, maliciously and with little or no mercy whatsoever.
As an attorney himself, Greenwald should know better, and should not be contradicting himself at all, especially in this case. Thus, as a result of his compromised statements in this article, and his other untrustworthy actions, not fully disclosed by him, named above, he has lost a great deal of credibility with me, and I trust him less and less. He should be completely uncompromised, but clearly he is not.
No, Greenwald is wrong that Clinton supposedly shouldn’t be charged and prosecuted, and clearly she should be, and not be granted immunity from same due to her “privileged class”. If the government is going to so excessively go after, arrest, prosecute, convict and imprison what Greenwald calls, “…those who are powerless and marginalized… often for the most trivial transgressions”, as they do, then certainly someone, even with power, whose transgressions were worse, should not AT ALL escape punishment for same under any circumstances.
Well said Wolf. You untangled his doublespeak and compromised statements.
As others (Benton) have noted, 18 USC Section 793(f) does not require that a prohibited act be committed with “intent” – “gross negligence” is sufficient to violate the statute which prescribes a punishment of up to 10 years in prison. FBI Director Comey told Republican senators that he did not think it appropriate to recommend indictment of Clinton under this statute for “gross negligence” because only one person had ever been prosecuted for “gross negligence” under the statute previously – but what kind of an excuse is that?! No one else ever used a private server to handle hundreds of thousands of top secret, national security related materials before! Clinton’s actions were clearly criminal within the meaning of this statute and the failure to prosecute was simply inexcusable.
The key observation in this allegedly criminal offence of Mrs H Clinton is that she did break the Statue in effect, and very obviously the Government instead of prosecuting her on the facts discovered, actualy bent over backwards to save her neck ?
So why didn’t the always erudite commentator, the Mr G Greenwald complete his critique by embracing the corrupt Government and it’s similar bent employees in this matter ?
hey
Do we really want a scofflaw for our next POTUS?
Yeah. Go tell that to Valerie Plame.
At the very least she violated the law on gross negligence and incompetence alone!
See statute 18 U.S.C. Section 793(F). No intent necessary only incompetence or negligence!
At my first meeting with a divorce lawyer, he asked “who do you know?”.
Clinton not only knows the right people, but also involved many of them in her guilt. President Obama, for example, probably knew and chose not to fight her over the unsafe home-brew server. The powerful can’t be prosecuted in isolation. To fight one, you would have to fight many.
This is another advantage the whistleblower doesn’t share. It doesn’t hurt the powerful to prosecute whistleblowers.
All the natural incentives are for prosecuting the dissident and protecting the already powerful. This leads to two-tiered justice (and snowballing corruption). I don’t know how you would change this. More laws, which could also be applied unfairly, don’t seem to be the answer.
The Hilary e-mail affair is slowly moving into Watergate territory. Soon we will read about E-mailgate. That Obama had a hand in this would hardly be speculation. Had Hilary been just an anonymous person she would already be serving a prison sentence–of that there can be no doubt. But . . . and I think we can be certain that Comey, Lynch and Obama know this, Hilary is getting off scott free.
It is not too late for an impeachment. Congress likes something almost trivial for impeachments, so all that is needed is some whistleblower to release some incriminating document relating Obama to the Hilary affair. Or maybe such is already available.
As in the case of Bradley Manning Obama announced in advance the outcome. He just knew that Hilary had done nothing wrong. Whereas he knew likewise that Manning had. Hilary may well have put someone in harms way and deleted the e-mail herself; we know for a certainty that Manning did not. There seems to be major disconnect between American law proceeding and Justice. Not just seems but Is.
While the House Oversight Committee grilled FBI Director James Comey on Thursday, House Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said Clinton likely lied to Congress under oath when she claimed “there was nothing marked classified” in her emails, either “sent or received.”
“Do you need a referral from Congress to investigate her statements under oath?” Chaffetz asked Comey.
“Sure do,” the FBI director replied.
“You’ll have one,” Chaffetz said. “You’ll have one in the next few hours.”
http://www.prisonplanet.com/hillary-faces-perjury-criminal-probe-for-lying-about-emails-to-congress.html
In my world, your viewpoint is well taken, but Democrats on the whole must demand much more from this Clinton debacle than just providing leniency for the less well-known. This whole mess with “the Clintons'” is just too damned much. Sick of them.
What?! Clinton lied and lied and doesn’t deserve prosecution? She “didn’t mean it” when she secretly set up a home server and scrubbed thousands of emails before anyone saw them? And this makes her the “only” candidate with a chance to stop a Trump presidency? Why do even supposed progressives keep ignoring and marginalizing the ONLY candidate who could really beat Trump – Bernie Sanders? My conclusion is that if the Clintons beat Trump it is because they and their puppetmasters will have made Trump a deal he could not refuse. But this article? Disappointing to say the least.
Trump is in it to win it.And when POTUS he’ll round up all the traitors for Zion.
I can dream,at least.
“I think what Director Comey said has no large implications for other criminal [defendants] in the future,” says Neal Katyal, a Georgetown University law professor.
“It is a truism that mens rea or criminal intent is needed to prosecute, and as the director said, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute without it,” he says. “So I don’t see any large implications for other investigations.”
The above simply isn’t true. The next time a school bus driver through gross negligence drives his bus off the road and injuries several students watch what happens. And there is no difference between extremely careless and gross negligence. They are synonymous phrases. The next thing we know Congress will come up with a bill identical to 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) . This will be embarrassing!
Comey articulated a position he does not actually believe in–but he is an underling compared even to the AG and certainly POTUS. What is probably not surprising are the law professors willing to support what he did.
“Mike Mukasey, who served as Attorney General from 2007 to 2009, says FBI Director James Comey wrongly excused Hillary Clinton during his press-conference by wrongly claiming that any prosecution requires strong evidence that she had the intent to violate classification laws.
But the law requires that cops and prosecutors show mere “gross negligence,” Mukasey wrote in a Wall Street Journal column, titled “Clinton Makes the FBI’s Least-Wanted List.” Moreover, Comey effectively showed during his prosecution-style press conference that Hillary Clinton’s reckless use of her unprotected home-brew email network meets that “gross negligence” test for federal prosecution, Mukasey argues. ” http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/05/attorney-general-mike-mukasey-freezes-fbi-director-james-comey/
Oh, well, most everyone wishes to curry favor with the rich and powerful even Georgetown law professors and apparently even Glenn Greenwald. You can’t trust American attorneys any more than you can trust American doctors.
Mukasey is a card carrying zionist,and the hell bitch is their representative.
Insults are not refutations. How many years as a Federal Prosecutor have you put in or are you a sidewalk attorney?
All I can reply is Mukasey is not to be trusted in any way shape or form,he is a serial liar,and if he said this,its only a political sham,as he wants hillaryous as bad as all the other neoshites do,as Israel their only concern.Haven’t you been keeping score?
Why do you put any credence in serial liars?
I am struggling with adequate words to thank you for expressing in words reflections and thoughts that can only be felt. Alas, the power of words spoken thoughtfully with the expertise of a very sharp doubled edged sword cutting asunder the truth from the lie. Truth be told –I am feeling somewhat deflated today over the unthinkable possibility that Sanders will endorse Hillary Clinton. I needed to be encouraged that truth still existed somewhere, and your article gave a breath of needed oxygen. Thank you.
The difference, in this case, is that this was obviously politically driven from the start. The only reason they wanted her emails was because someone in the administration said the Benghazi attacks were linked to a propaganda video. From there a major fishing expedition was launched and this is all they got.
For those out there who think the FOIA is so important they should stop and acknowledge that government employees are humans and if we reward every fishing expedition we will effectively destroy the government. Are you a professor who said something slightly liberal in class? You better hope you never said anything slightly liberal in an email because they will come for it and put it on Breitbart. Good luck getting your reputation back 5 minutes after the spotlight is off of you nobody cares about the context.
I even saw an opinion piece that was exasperated that someone in government would want to keep any communication private. This was someone on the left. This sounds more and more like the East German form of policing from the Communist days. Clinton, more than anyone I can think of, had the biggest motivation for wanting to keep her private communications private. She was a bit naive I suppose. And we can bet that as president the right will launch unprecedented subpoenas, hearings, and FOIA requests than ever before. Not because she is doing anything more wrong than anyone else, but because this is how they maintain their power. Wouldn’t you want to subpoena the emails and communications of the people launching these investigations? You would find that their motives are not apolitical. This is not what the FOIA was intended to be.
That being said, GG is correct in that a major double standard exists. The way forward is not to destroy Clinton, but to stop persecuting the little people. Making an example of Clinton would not, unfortunately, draw attention to this though, but instead, it would just propel the right into power. And does anyone think the GOP cares about the little people and their security breaches? Ha Ha
Hillary setting up a private server to avoid FOIA disclosure was absolutely politically motivated… to protect herself from criticism from the Left.
But your understanding of the FOIA is flawed.
Congress doesn’t need it.
And comparing it to East German policing is ridiculous.
GG’s argument was basically that if reality were different, Hillary shouldn’t be prosecuted.
But reality is what it is, so the double standard is a not justifiable.
Pretending that reality will change for the little people who have been or will be prosecuted for less is a nonsensical defense for Hillary not suffering the same fate.
Equal application of the law is necessary if rule of law is to be credible.
And, the foreign and economic policies of neoliberals are right wing.
So, the “right” is in power and has been in power and will remain in power even if Hillary beats Trump. You are perpetuating a delusion by pretending otherwise.
-This issue wasn’t about private communications. Many of the emails were official state business, some classified and some up to top secret, involving sensitive information (e.g. names of covert CIA agents), which Mrs Clinton left open and vulnerable to outsiders. This wasn’t just carelessness. She was repeatedly warned that such an approach was insecure and against the law, but did it anyway, all in order to shield her activities (in public office) from transparency and public accountability.
-The comparison to East Germany is completely backwards. The Stasi wanted access to private communications. That’s very different from knowing what purported public servants are doing in their official capacities.
-The right is already in power, mate–has been for decades now. Mrs Clinton is as extreme right-wing as they come. Holding her accountable for her crimes won’t propel the right further into power. If she were taken out of the race, it would either mean President Sanders or President Trump, either of which would be significantly to her left. (Or else the party would invent a way to install a different replacement, and again, anyone they could possibly scrounge up would still be well to her left.)
You people are repulsive,like your hero zero.
Like many others, I found it surprising that Greenwald agrees that charges should not have been brought, yet also thinks that there was malignant intent, including obstruction of the FOIA process. That seems to be a disanalogy with the Snowden, Manning, and other cases sufficient to justify charges.
Actually Greenwald’s point is that the DOJ should show similar restraint to those who they have instead gone after as if they were the most diabolical spies. The General Petraeus case is even more egregious. He shared classified material with his mistress and biographer who obviously planned to use it in her book. While she may not have actually revealed secrets, they probably would have been used as background or corroboration. Either way he clearly broke the law, but got a mere slap on the wrist.
Hi Victor. I realize that that was his point, and I completely agree with the main point of the post re: double standards for the powerful and the powerless. What I found surprising was that Greenwald thinks the DOJ should not bring charges if a powerful official has violated the law with malignant intent to obstruct something as democratically essential as FOIA.
Also, the intention to obstruct FOIA seems much worse than the intent to impress a mistress and biographer. Worse *both* in the sense of highlighting the double standard, *and* in a sense that seems like it would justify charges, even to someone with Greenwald’s politics and moral views.
I agreed with everything Greenwald said except for the statement that charges should not have been brought in the Clinton case. Charges should be brought if there was violation of the law regardless of intent. However, prosecution and sentencing needs to take into account whether there was no intent, malicious intent, good intent (Manning), negligence, etc. They threw the book at Manning for trying to do public good instead of addressing the need for an effective whistleblower program. I think Clinton should have been charged and face a jury to decide whether her actions merit punishment.
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TheMost Interesting Oligarch In The World: ” I don’t always stop planes on the tarmac to ‘discuss the grandkids’… But when I do, my wife gets a pass”
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That reminds me of her idiotic stump speech the other day where she said something along the lines that Trump wanted to keep his limousines,planes and helicopters.
Never have we had such a moron running for POTUS.
She rides on democrat dough supplied limos,planes ,and helicopters every day.
At least the Donald paid for his.
She’s a maroon.
Clinton: “I did not have classified email relations with that server.”
I usually agree with GG… and I do with most in this piece… but the way he downplays the seriousness of undermining the FOIA is very troubling to me.
Americans have a right to know what our employees are doing, and blatant and intentional violations of the Freedom of Information Act should be prosecuted as criminal corruption.
All the focus on the national security angle is allowing a gaping hole in the accountability and oversight regime that the FOIA enables for citizens and journalists to remain unplugged.
So many important stories have been uncovered and/or filled out using the FOIA, and in this case half of Hillary’s emails will forever remain unknown.
Such secrecy is a direct threat to our country… and the lack of repercussions and outrage pretty much ensures that other methods of evading the FOIA will be used by the entitled class in the future.
And, for those who would point out that Rice, Rove and Cheney did the exact same thing in an attempt to excuse Hillary’s actions, I would point out that the comparison showing Hillary to be just like them is itself damning, and further justification for prosecution.
An FBI leak revealed that HiLiary Clinton pleaded the 5th Amendment to every question during her 3.5 hour interrogation on Saturday 7/2/2016. “On the advice of counsel I invoke my Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination and respectfully decline to answer your question” is what she repeated more than 100 times.
Sound advice for anyone interviewed by the FBI. Here’s why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZrdyCWu7M
You are forgetting one very important thing. In American two party systems it’s either bad or in this case far far worse. It’s a race to the bottom and Hillary will be leading us there come the next election. It’s not so much that Democrats are celebrating that their lying leader got away with it so much as they are celebrating that Trump won’t be in office.
But he will be.:)
“Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case”. But who said all of them had to be ? The rest of Comey’s formulation is ambiguous enough to allow a coming constitutional crisis, should the Queen take power, or more likely an endless blackmail by the GOP fraction in Congress,even if it becomes the minority. Whatever the November outcome, it is one more reason why the right wing will govern the US for the next four years. But who cares, right, as long as the Harlot gets her toy !
Trump is no rightwing ideologue , the rethugs who hate him,along with the demoncrat fascists are though.
I was just watching the latest couple of police shootings in America. Unbelievable.
Did you know there were around a thousand people killed by police in the US last year? That is just police shootings. For reference, in the UK, there were around 32 gun deaths in total.
Who was the genius that said, hey let’s combine people with concealed weapons, with police officers trained to shoot to kill anyone they see with a concealed weapon? Did they do any studies on the possible effects? Computer simulations?
I would have thought you don’t need a supercomputer, or a tarot card reader, to predict the outcome. And lo and behold, that is what is happening.
What will the NRA say, let me guess: “hey if the girlfriend and kid in the car had been packing…they could have shot the gun out of the police man’s hand!!!”
Public employees in Kansas can now carry concealed weapons on the job. What good news!!! No training required! Even better!!!
Yes, public workers in Kansas need a “deterrent”!!!!, Maybe they should all be given assistants, to do the actual work, …while they stand guard with their hidden weapons at the ready. Don’t want them taking their hands off their guns, to do some actual work, only to be surprised by ninjas!!!
Untrained workers going into people’s houses with hidden weapons, houses with owners that have guns (that they presumably got to protect themselves from armed intruders)….what could possibly go wrong????
Oh, and this part is obviously wrong:
She’s … arguably the only person standing between Donald Trump and the White House. …
that is undoubtedly what caused the FBI to accord her the massive benefit of the doubt when assessing her motives. Her identity, rather than her conduct, was clearly a major factor in his finding nothing
As it stands there are two people able to stand between Donald and the White House. Last I checked, the D party has yet to choose a nominee and won’t do so for three more weeks.
If keeping Drumpf out of the White House was a key factor in the FBI’s decision, then it’s all the more reason to apply the law properly and disqualify Mrs. Clinton from the race–leaving the way clear for the Ds to nominate their stronger candidate and guarantee a victory.
The Obama Justice Department has been a complete failure. Police have been given license to kill blacks with impunity.
Democrats love talking about Trump, but this is Obama. How can things get any worse? Hillary Clinton’s husband started this when he was president. She herself helped kick it off with the “they are super-predators who must be brought to heel” statement. Is this heeling enough for you Hillary? I don’t care about a black president, a woman president, or a green president for all that that matters. I just want a president who doesn’t smile a lot while he’s telling us all the things he can’t do about injustice. We’re getting shot down like dogs and the same Justice Department that was improving suddenly decided not to prosecute some of the worse cases of police brutality and murder. That sent a signal to the lower courts which already had racial bias ingrained in their procedures, and now things are much worse.
My bad, you say. That won’t get it Mr. President. Hillary makes a lot of mistakes and you have made a mountain of them yourself while trying to blame everything on the republicans. Your first mistake was bending over backwards for republicans in 2008 when we gave you the presidency and both Houses. You said I am president of all the people and caucused with republicans for months. Then in the mid term elections, both Houses shifted to the republicans. No wonder!
But that’s not the problem. The problem is the Obama Justice department! There is no excuse for this lack of justice and we are sick of it. The poor victims of these murders can’t speak. Shining the spotlight on them for political gain is a cheap shot considering how little is being done to correct the situation. You have enough power to make Clinton’s problems go away and that may have even involved breaking a few laws. But you can’t do anything about this? You and your girl are going down. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. This is already viral.
I am not a lawyer, so I would be interested if someone with legal knowledge could explain the difference between ‘extremely careless’ and ‘gross negligence’. As FBI director Comey explained, Clinton would have had to have either criminal intent or have acted ‘grossly negligent’ for the FBI to recommend charging her with a crime. Can Clinton really walk away from this simply by the FBI rephrasing her conduct to nearly synonymous terms, and then it’s somehow legal?
Oops, double post, didn’t think it accepted it the first time.
the definition of ‘gross negligence’ is ‘extremely careless’. when they instruct a jury on matters such as these, they describe it as such. legal dictionaries define it as such. these people are making a mockery of our entire justice system. question is, how long are we willing to let them get away with it?
I am not a lawyer, so I’m interested if someone could explain to me the difference between ‘extremely careless’ and ‘grossly negligent’? As Comey said, you either have to have intent or be ‘grossly negligent’ for the secrecy laws to apply. Can Clinton evading justice really be as simple as rephrasing her conduct in fundamentally synonymous terms?
According to Google:
“Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both. It is conduct that is extreme when compared with ordinary Negligence, which is a mere failure to exercise reasonable care.”
I’ve never heard of someone subconsciously setting up an email server so I think GG is being quite generous really. Comey’s decision seems utterly bizarre to me, even leaving aside the fact that it wasn’t his decision to make in the first place
He superseded the JD.Obvious bootlicking quisling.
A musical summary of why Hellery deserves prison not WH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XQOng0EaM
“But if there is to be anything positive that can come from this lowly affair, perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.”
Would it be reasonable to expect any such thing to happen? After all, dishonesty is the name of the game in partisan politics.
“She’s the multi-millionaire former First Lady, Senator from New York, and Secretary of State”
And she was completely let off by the public from the question of exactly what she did to earn all those millions, exactly what was in those many speeches to Wall Street firms that could have been worth $225k/pop to them, and assuming it wasn’t a smoke screen laid down by them, what exactly is the meaning of the WS threat to pull the money plug if she names Warren VP?
like B of A, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary is….. too big to fail…….. where is your integrity….. Democrats??????
Integrity? I long for the good old days– a President who swaggered in and told us he could invade Iraq with 250,000 soldiers, at a cost of $250 billion and win it in months. If Republicam’s had an ounce of integrity–Bush would be tried for war crimes. And now, you give us Trump? Wake up and smell the hypocrisy.
I guess you slept late on all the days Trump has called Bush a F8ckup,McCain a non hero,Iraq a disaster,Libya a disaster,Syria a disaster,neolibcon trade steals a disaster and myriad other things all supported by both demoncrats and rethuglicans.
You are a liar,at best,and at worst a woman who will vote for a career criminal and screw up for POTUS,just because she’s a woman.
Here are Hillary truths.
https://youtu.be/wbkS26PX4rc
Finally, Comey had two choices. Present the case in public and take heat for the false “no reasonable” prosecutor would . . . Or submit the findings and the same recommendation. Until Friday he could have done the latter and recommended prosecution and let Loretta Lynch take the heat. He was cut off at the pass by Bill Clinton.
Hilary’s successes are largely in the private sphere: keeping Bill out of trouble, using the Clinton Foundation to take in billions of dollars, giving secret talks for hundreds of thousands, etc. How this translates into a presidency is not at all clear, and yet I am sure most readers of the Intercept favor Clinton over that bad guy Trump. In order to do so one needs to forget Libya and Syria. One needs to know nothing about her actions as the First Lady and broken vases and so forth.
Do you believe in magic?
Glenn Greenwald in 2012:
He wrote that in a comment under this Salon.com article: Washington’s high-powered terrorist supporters. The comment is on page 1. The article was prompted by a report that former governor of Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell, was being investigated for providing “material support” to the (then) officially designated terrorist group, MEK. It had been previously reported that Rendell was but one of several “former top American officials” who were receiving payments from that group in return for their public support. Though Greenwald strongly disapproved of the law (as interpreted in Holder v. Humanitarian Law), he argued that Rendell and the others could be prosecuted under the law, and seemed to imply that they should be. In the comment he made it clear that he thought they should be. In the article he listed five ordinary Muslim citizens who had already been prosecuted under the law.
So, that’s a very different approach than the one that Greenwald is taking today. In both cases he preferred that the law not be strictly enforced. In both cases the law was/is being enforced unequally. But four years ago he believed that the only way equality under the law would ever be achieved is to treat the powerful as the powerless are being treated, even if the prosecutions would be unjust. Today he thinks it best not to prosecute the powerful unjustly and “perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.” In other words, in these past four years Greenwald has become a believer in that same “magic” he once derided. His primary concern is the same: equality under the law. But his chosen path to that goal is completely different.
Hillary happens to bump into President Obama while on Air Force One.
Hillary: Oops! – Pardon Me! – Pleasze!
Obama: Not to worry! James found no wrongdoing with Bill’s Pardon Controversy.
Hillary: But, Loretta may have different opinions.
Obama: Not to worry! Bill talked to Loretta in Phoenix.
Hillary: But, Bill Pardoned Marc Rich for me.
Obama: Not to worry! I’m on Standby if you need me.
Hillary: But, can we still claim to be a Nation of Laws?
Obama: Not to worry! Yes, The Laws are Enforced Unequally as Needed.
Like William St. George and others here, I too would love to hear Glenn’s reasons for concluding that Hilary should not be prosecuted. Various legal experts have laid out reasons why she should indeed be prosecuted for violation of Federal Statute 18 USC section 793f (for just one example, and there are others) which states,
So Glenn, I’m sure you have good reasons for concluding Hilary should be let off the hook, but for the life of me I can’t fathom what they might be.
> I too would love to hear Glenn’s reasons for concluding that Hilary should not be prosecuted.
This is the explanation he gave in the article: “Still, charging someone with a felony requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
Nothing in the statute I quoted refers to intent, substantial or otherwise, so I don’t see that it’s a requirement. However, if it were, considering the enormous responsibility and sensitivity of her position and the battery of lawyers available to her, it would be ludicrous to argue that she just didn’t know any better. Rather than “intended harm”, surely the pertinent test here (if required at all) would be substantial reckless exposure of the United States to potential harm. Glenn seems to feel that the law cannot stop a person from recklessly risking exposure of classified information for personal reasons, as opposed to doing so in the perceived public interest, as per Snowden, Manning and others. That is the key difference here, in my opinion. Perhaps Glenn could point out where I am wrong, or else perhaps he should reconsider. Glenn? Mona?
Just to be clear. I don’t for a moment think that Snowden et al. acted recklessly.
Me neither.He was trying to reign in a reckless government.
> Nothing in the statute I quoted refers to intent, substantial or otherwise, so I don’t see that it’s a requirement.
You think Greenwald doesn’t know that? In the article he makes it perfectly clear that he thinks Clinton broke the law. However he believes that “reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint” is appropriate in the case. Why he believes that is the only question I’ve been asking since reading the article. I tried to answer it in this comment below. Maybe that’s all wrong, maybe it’s not, but suggesting that Greenwald has misinterpreted the law is just silliness because he is NOT arguing that Clinton didn’t break the law (see the other comment).
I agree with your linked comment. The sad irony is that in taking that position, Glenn undermines his own credibility, thus making it easier to dismiss his (correct) arguments, that genuine whistleblowers such as Snowden should not be prosecuted.
Hilary Clinton has recklessly endangered the US while in a position of great power and responsibility for reasons that at best rise no farther than “convenience”, and she has consistently lied about and deflected from what she did. If such reckless endangerment shouldn’t be prosecuted, then what should?
I agree with you linked comment. But surely surely supporting a refusal to prosecute genuine cases of reckless endangerment undermines rather than supports such arguments for whistleblowers.
Well….In my opinion, whether or not she had intent, she STILL was caught in a series of lies that are documented on video and print…Even when questioned about her contradictions–to the absurd level that in some cases the interviewer plays back prior footage to Hillary herself, letting her hear her own words that she has just denied saying—she continues to deny…If the interviewer persists on holding her accountable she eventually makes a statement such as “you’re still on that?” or “that’s old news”, as if that should somehow deem the evidence as irrelevant. So, I guess my point is that someone who has repeatedly proven that they are untrustworthy, someone who has been declared reckless, careless and found to have been completely dishonest by the FBI in NO WAY should be given further opportunity to potentially screw something else up–especially in a higher position. No intent? Great to know…they can be in charge of health care or some other position that is in line with things she has discussed wanting to achieve, but even that would only be right after completing a refresher course on proper handling of documents, and a thorough review of security protocol…There should be some acknowledgement that if she is claiming ignorance or limited memory, or whatever her current excuse is, that perhaps the best thing to do would be to take a break, figure it out and then run again in a few years or whatever…For her to move forward without further concern and for her supporters to continue to rally around her is just disgusting–it’s not like they don’t have another candidate they can go with that had respectable support. But no…the actions of the last few days have laid out quite a bit plainly and clearly, and yes, of course there’s a double standard. I’m sorry—I have lost every ounce of support and respect I ever had for the democratic party. Between Hillary and Debbie Wasserman Shultz I’ve seen all I can stand, and I find myself questioning the ethics and morals of anyone that continues to speak in favor of her.
The statute refers to intent when it says, “gross negligence,” and “having knowledge.” Gross negligence refers to a mens rea of recklessness, and having knowledge refers to a mens rea of knowing.
In the specific case, the statute refers to actual harm, things that have to happen to allow a charge. 18 USC § 793(f) requires one of two things for the first part under a reckless mens rea:
1. recklessly permitting classified information to be removed from its proper place, or
2. recklessly delivering it to anyone not authorized to receive it, or losing it, or allowing it to be stolen.
Neither case applies with regards to the emails. Assuming for the sake of argument that the emails contained classified information, there is no evidence that they were sent to or from people who were not cleared to receive that information. There is also no evidence that any classified information was lost or stolen, that the email servers were hacked. That’s the legal standard that would have to be met, so Clinton can thank those foreign intelligence agencies for being clean and thorough and not leaving any footprints behind if they did hack it.
So the question is whether she recklessly permitted classified information to be removed from its proper place by letting it be on her email server. For that, she would have to consciously and voluntarily disregard the need to use reasonable care with regards to it. The fact that among all the emails that were sent and received by the Secretary, that so few contained actually classified information at the time they were sent or received (110) weighs in her favor. And among the questions that would need to be answered is whether she knew those specific pieces of information were classified. If they weren’t marked, it would be very difficult to prove that she knew or should have known it was classified.
So at this point, there still isn’t a smoking gun, and there’s no pattern of behavior to indicate recklessness with classified information. And it’s not like these emails would have been safer on the State Department email servers, since those servers WERE hacked in 2014.
IAAL, and I wouldn’t want to try this case. This is not a winnable case.
Hilary, as with anybody who receives a security clearance received training on how to recognize likely classified material. Handling such material is routine for a Secretary of State. Nevertheless, despite expert advisers, she chose to carry out official business on an utterly unprotected server, not even making an attempt to separate official from personal business, despite the statutory requirement that all official emails be preserved for archival purposes.
If before Hilary I wrote a novel featuring a Secretary of State who used such a set-up for no reason other than sheer ignorance, would you consider it the least bit plausible? Thought not.
The only plausible explanation is that she wilfully violated the statutes you quoted.
She should be prosecuted. James Comey thinks so too. That’s why before claiming that her case doesn’t merit prosecution, he carefully laid out such a compelling case that it in fact does. He went as far as he dared in the hope that others would take up the cause.
If you think Secretary Clinton should have been punished for a Federal Records Act violation, once again, you would be wrong. The law, as it was when she held office, allowed her to do as she did. There has been no evidence that she willfully (another mens rea requirement) violated any pertinent part of the FRA.
I would say that the novel was plausible, since the two previous Secretaries of State did it as well.
As for willfully violating the statutes I quoted, once again, you do not understand what is required. Willful violation requires both knowing that the action you are doing is a violation of the law, and intending to do that act knowing it is a violation of the law. There is no evidence whatsoever that she willfully intended to violate any of the laws regarding classified information. The steps she took to avoid sending classified information when she knew there was information that was classified, and the fact that so little of the email was classified at the time shows deliberate action to not violate the statute.
You’re dead wrong about what Comey was doing.
Comey laid out the farthest case he thought could be made under the evidence at hand. Even that did not merit prosecution, because no case with facts similar to it has ever been brought. Every case has either had massive amounts of information given to people not authorized to receive it, so intent could be inferred, or had intent that was clear, unambiguous, and easy to discern.
He’s not daring others to take up the cause. He’s saying its not worth it. He’s saying it’s over.
And let me tell you, based on my limited experience – if that was the standard for bringing a prosecution, if that was all that was required, you’d be able to indict nearly all the State Department, a quarter of the DoD, and damn good amount of the IC. A lot of classified information isn’t dangerous, isn’t life-threatening to people, and should be released because it doesn’t even meet the requirements for Confidential classification: that the “information
it contains is of such nature that its disclosure, although not endangering our national security, might be prejudicial to the interests or prestige of the Nation, an individual, or any
governmental activity, or be of advantage to a foreign nation.”
Secretary Clinton shouldn’t be prosecuted, and FBI director Comey doesn’t think so, which is why he’s spent the past two days explaining why he made the decision and recommendations that he did.
Your entire argument rests on the false assumption that she couldn’t be prosecuted for reckless negligence.
Andrew Napolitano:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/07/andrew-p-napolitano/guilty-not-charged/
People who defend her are obvious mentally deficient.
They are liars,with an agenda.
Tell Ted Stevens, Tom Delay and Bob McDonnell about “reasonable” prosecutors.Why not let Clinton be convicted , destroyed and THEN cleared.
How many Americans have been railroaded into decades-long prison terms for offenses orders of magnitude less egregious than Ms. Clintons??? Either there is justice, or there is not. Either there is resistance, or there is not. The choice is stark this November.
HRC is completely right to say that using private email addresses and servers is a practice which is widespread. Rampant is a better word. I am sure that the Bush Admin did it, too, but the Obama Admin has been doing it since day one. The Capital Press, a West Coast agricultural newspaper reported on it years ago with regard to the EPA. The EPA uses private email to correspond directly with environmental groups to inform them and coordinate efforts. I love the environment too, but I also love sunshine laws and transparent government. and that is just one agency.
I also find it refreshing to read the legal analysis in the comments here. No intent is required for this case and even if it were, it can established by circumstantial evidence and constructive knowledge. She had notice and knowledge of protocol. And I bet that the Secretary of State has a hand in determining what is classified or not. She tried to pass the buck on that one to the “State Department” like the person at its head is titular only. Further, in legal sense, gross incompetence is gross negligence, no matter what thesaurus you use. But as someone else on here put it, a government that contorts the law and morality to sanction torture is not going to hold its elites accountable. Sometime, something has to give.
Since Glenn is an attorney I would like him to lay out his defense of someone accused of violating the Federal Statute 18 USC section 793f. He agrees with Comey who slipped over this statute and is glad Hilary is not going to be prosecuted. At the same time he does “think there was malignant intent”. The road gets a bit rough and ambiguous at this point. He needs to clarify his position. Intent is not a part of 18 USC section 793f. Anyone who happened to listen to Judge Napalitano in recent weeks has heard him outline the various laws which is why probably many people are still confused by Comey’s remarkable presentation.
“Looked at in isolation, I have no particular objection to this decision. In fact, I agree with it: I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality, and if I were in the Justice Department, I would not want to see her prosecuted for it.”
It is not clear whether Glenn is defending Hilary in particular or anyone at all who might treat classified information carelessly. Strictly speaking whether someone’s action has risen to the level of criminality will depend on whether a law exists that their behavior broke. I rather doubt that Glenn thinks it is okay to be extremely careless with classified information which Hilary and her close staff were; in so doing they broke a law passed by Congress at some time in the past.
So which of the following is it?
1. I am fond of Hilary Clinton and therefore would not like to see her charged with a felony for violating 18 USC section 793f, especially since it is unclear there was any “intent” (which if there were would place her behavior under a different statute).
2. Or in principle I am against prosecuting persons who are merely careless or grossly negligent with classified information.
The word criminality is interesting. I do not think a man currently being prosecuted for sending a photo to his girl friend that accidentally showed a sonar screen in the back ground has demonstrated himself to be a criminal in the everyday sense of the word. He was careless rather than criminal or perhaps just ignorant. So should we be so strict with these failures? I can see why such a law might be necessary; and I am sure Greenwald can as well. Probably he got taken in by a clever trick that Comey pulled by shifting from the law under which a prosecution would be successful to one where it would be more difficult though hardly impossible. For mass consumption the trick probably worked and now millions of people and no doubt Clinton supporters think they would have needed to prove intent. By the way Rudy Guilliani who was a Federal prosecutor for 15 years said intent is usually proved indirectly through circumstantial evidence and that such existed in the Clinton case. Other prosecutors have echoed his remarks. So why has Glenn Greenwald not taken a rather less sympathetic stance?
I am just a lowly law student, but Mr. St. George’s analysis seems dead on. Mr. Greenwald?
Mr. Greenwald’s article had my assent until I reached this part: “Looked at in isolation, I have no particular objection to this decision. In fact, I agree with it: I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality, and if I were in the Justice Department, I would not want to see her prosecuted for it.” In other words despite there being a law that does not entail intent and which Clinton clearly violated, that law should be ignored? Perhaps the law should be changed. On the other hand it probably exists to warn people away from carelessness with top secret information the dispersal of which could bring serious harm to others.
Well, I thought to myself at last I can agree with Mr. Greenwald and then I guess progressiveness or being a Democrat took over and the above remarks were made.
The hell bitch will be more welcoming to foreign nationals immigration?
Hopefully that had no bearing on GGs call that she shouldn’t be prosecuted,as her intent was evident,to hide her correspondence with non governmental actors,like foreign governments in shakedowns for Clinton cash.
A criminal if there ever was one.
There are plenty of crimes (even felonies) that don’t require criminal intent or intent to cause substantial harm. Manslaughter, for instance: accidentally killing someone through carelessness is still a crime, and the lack of intent is exactly what separates it from murder. There are plenty of crimes of ‘strict liability': i.e. doesn’t matter what you meant, you still did it.
Well the CIA, DEA, NSA all live on TOR and are advised to use TOR for the obvious protections it provides ALL, so no chance of it being compromised ever by them.
Stick to TOR to play it safe.
When Hillary Clinton made the decision to use her private server for official Secretary of State purposes, she took on the FULL responsibility to guarantee it was maintained with the same degree of security as the official .GOV domains. Specifically, that email messages would be archived periodically, that the server would be routinely checked for potential breaches, that passwords were regularly changed and constructed to meet the normal standards of the State Department, just to name a few operational requirements.
Whether she asked for permission or only assumed it was acceptable to the State Department is not as important to understand as the fact that by her own actions, she was effectively warranting it met every standard of the State Department. As owner of this server, she could not transfer legal responsibility to someone else or some other entity, she would always remain the primary responsible party for any issue that arose with its operation, integrity, or question of compliance with State Department standards.
So, the key conclusion to understand about this fiasco is her ignorance of how an email server operates is no excuse, on the contrary, it is prima facie evidence that she was GROSSLY NEGLIGENT in her operation and management of the server. There is no need to prove any ill intent, her gross negligence in assuring the same standards were followed is more than sufficient to bring an indictment by a grand jury.
Clearly, this is not just an issue involving bad judgment (which it most certainly is) but it involves a wanton disregard for the security of the United States. The idea that she would jeopardize our security for her “convenience” is absolutely revolting. But the idea this would be excused by the FBI Director is beyond comprehension. This is exactly what the law was designed to prevent, there could hardly be a more brazen example of its violation.
We might also recall Her Highness’s words about Edward Snowden: “he broke the law and that can’t be ignored or brushed aside” (or something very close). The difference being, of course, that neither Snowden nor anyone else ever advocated ignoring the legal implications of his actions, and those actions never threatened national security.
I’m sure the empress-in-waiting didn’t mean specific harm to the nation; it was all about shielding her scummy backroom deals from transparency and accountability. Nonetheless, I for one would argue it should still be treated as a felony. There most definitely was “a clear intent to break the law,” as evidenced by her persistence in using insecure hidden methods after being advised against it numerous times (and because those cell-phone activities while traveling abroad included ordering people murdered by drone).
What exactly are the legal implications of making massive weapon sales, acting in public capacity, to the same governments that are concurrently making massive donations to your own private foundation? What lawbreaking is involved in trading or promising other favors in anticipation of a presidential run? Those are questions serious enough to be treated as felony matters, and serious enough for Mrs. Clinton’s lying and evidence-destroying to be treated as obstruction of justice.
With all respect to the people who were effected by 9/11, I believe yesterday was an even greater disaster for this country. Yeah, the elitist corruption has been growing like a cancer for years, but yesterday it came clearly to the surface and in 1 week, it will be old news.
You can put money on the sighs of relief from the Hell Bitch camp when the shootings occurred in Dallas.
As long as I have been politically aware, the FBI has acted to conceal our governments misdeeds. Usually by never releasing confiscated records or security videos.
Now, Comey, waves a list of crimes in the peoples face, and then declares that the charges don’t rise to the level of prosecution for a stooge of the Oligarchs.
The FBI should be renamed, the Oligarchs Praetorian Guard.
Can’t we keep the acronym and rename it the Federal Bureau of corrupt Incompetents? After all, when a group of eight amateur thieves broke into an FBI field office in Media, Pennsylvania in 1971 and made out the door with hundreds of files demonstrating the illegal activities in which the FBI was engaged at that time, the Bureau never was able to apprehend the thieves. Only the WaPo had the guts to run with the story. NYT’s and others claimed it was the work of criminal radicals.
Professional criminal government agencies like the CIA, the FBI and the NSA were never designed to do anything other than protect large special private interests and the government those interests own; any wide-spread public benefit they perform is merely mostly cosmetic or happenstance. Think of them as little more than extensions of phony wars waged against abstractions like Nixon’s phony War on Drugs or G. W. Bush’s phony War on Terror. Neither of those phony wars are about morality or public safety. Phony wars against abstractions are un-winable and therefore intentionally designed to be perpetual and perpetually profitable for large special interests and to demonize and marginalize poor people so that they may be exploited while resources are pilfered.
One VERY relevant aspect COMPLETELY overlooked, or suppressed. One that anyone who reasonably knows the stats regarding criminal prosecution and sentencing.
She is a WOMAN, women uniformly receive less sentences than men apples for apples, for the same crime wit same criminal history, when they are actually prosecuted, which is also at a MUCH lower rate than for men.
It is a direct result of the Women Are Wonderful Syndrome, also known as The P*55Y Pass.
In this case I think the Powerful People are Never Indicted Syndrome, ditto the description only more so, is the one in play.
Fine article, exposing the double standard. Nevertheless…
Jill Stein thinks (and personally, I agree) that Hillary Clinton should be prosecuted:
Green Party candidate: Prosecute Clinton
Clinton should have known that materials she was receiving and transmitting were classified. If the mails contained “sources and methods”, mentioned codewords (or even digraphs and trigraphs), or listed names/places/dates of covert or sensitive activity, they’re classified. Those of us who have worked classified efforts know in our guts if something about a document ‘smacks’ of sensitive content. If she didn’t know that, she’s incompetent. If she did know that (and I believe she had to know it), she’s simply thumbing her nose at the system. We have SCIFs, Mosler safes, TEMPEST, and vaults for a reason. Hillary has a record of assuming control of things that aren’t in her bailiwick.
My feeling is that everyone currently holding a clearance should resign their position. They’re playing with a stacked deck. Worse, they are playing in a casino where the casino itself makes the rules and decides what is sensitive and who gets prosecuted for violating the rules. Hillary has made the system a joke. Perhaps she has done us all a favor by revealing the system is flawed and contrived from the get-go. At this point, only a masochistic fool would want to participate in the system.
If they asked me back into the black programs, I would turn them down. They’ve effectively smeared mud over something designed with good intentions. Our government isn’t even deft and clever about duplicity; it’s right out in the open.
Clinton gave security rules lip-service and heaven knows how Trump will handle national security information once he gets read-on administratively (how he’ll get cleared with foreign nationals in his family is another issue worthy of some investigation). But, sadly, our choices for leadership are between a self-important narcissist who lacks an internal editing function and an arrogant, misanthropic, power-mad self-entitled shrew. Heads they win, tails we lose.
Comey is a gem. A man who commits perjury is unlikely to rattle the cage. Whew–the Masters of the Universe are sharing a moment of solidarity– a collective sigh of relief. God forbid justice should break out in America. Now we can turn our attention back where it belongs– the upcoming election– a choice between Hitler and Eva Braun.
Eva Braun was just Hitlers girlfriend and later wife.She had absolutely nothing to do with ww2,and had the same level of guilt as Laura Bush and Michelle Obama,none at all.
Hitler is the hell bitch reincarnated,but even he,as dumb as his stupid actions illustrate,had more on the ball than this nobody.
All are equal but some are more equal than others. Orwell knew his stuff.
During my22 years in the military, I had a security clearance for most of that time. If I had done one quarter what the cow did, they would have put me under the prison a Fort Levanworth, KS, and I would have never had a security clearance again for as long as I live.
My question is: Why does the Hilderhog get to keep hers after grossly careless handling of top secret material, (a clear violation of 18 USC section 793f), and possible compromise by foreign governments who do not have our best interest at heart.
The reason is that your last name isn’t Clinton and you’re not a political elite.
Because she did it for the regime-approved reason of hiding evidence of her crimes and the crimes of the regime, from the American public, and they hoped, from posterity. Any action consciously taken by a member of the elite, to keep the American people completely in the dark and maintain the grand bulwark of lies, is looked on favorably.
Why ???? Because she is very wealthy, important person with lots of political power and of course, has dirt on other powerful people. I am part of the LE community and would lose my job for much less. I also would ABSOLUTELY lose my entire career if I was ever discipline for lying/deception at work.
I can’t vote for either of these two narcissists. Can you imagine Hillary as president if she’s “careless” with national secrets as Secretary of State? And how can Trump even get cleared with foreign nationals in his family? My mother was born in Germany and I had to fill out the most amazing amount of paperwork on her prior to obtaining an EBI. And she had no “lingering familial attachments” in her family…mainly because they were all killed under Hitler.
Clinton or Trump…would you rather have your right arm or left arm cut off?
Bernie Sanders is not out of the race. Hillary Clinton still does not have enough delegates to clinch the nomination without the superdelegates. The superdelegates do not cast their vote until July 25th at the convention. They still can do the right thing and vote for Bernie at the convention. He has always been the stronger candidate, and the only candidate with the moral integrity and honesty to lead our great country into the future.
His political revolution is just starting. Regardless as to who becomes POTUS, he has inspired over 20K people to run for office or volunteer to help those running. We have already had many Berniecrats win their primaries. We have the numbers (all those who voted for Bernie AND all those prevented from voting due to outdated election rules, disenfranchisement, ballot destruction, vote flipping by the computers, and other methods of election fraud) to rally behind each and every Bernicrat on the ballot come November. We will have many more running at the midterms. We have a plan to completely replace Congress by 2018 which has nothing to do with being POTUS. Bernie has inspired us to have a true government Of the People, By the People and For the People.
If you think that our current government is a corrupt oligarchy, run by the corporations and wealthy 1/10th of 1%, consider running for office. Get involved with your local government in your congressional district. Run for your local school board, volunteer to be a poll worker, etc. Don’t sit at home complaining. Get involved, join in the political revolution and change things from the inside out, and as Bernie says, “from the bottom on up.”
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Upon President-elect Trump taking office, he should ask for the FBI director’s resignation or face being fired. I served 23 years on active duty, had I ever compromised our nation’s secrets, I would of had been immediately court martial. There can not and must not be a separation of guarding secrets based upon higher echelons in the government. The FBI director failed miserably.
This is good:
It’s fantastic how Trump can just put out contradictory, erroneous, outrageous material,….but his supporters love it..it presses all the right buttons. Trump doesn’t make any sense, he’s pro-Israel:
And at the same time he’s posting pictures of Clinton with Stars of David and piles of money.
Trump makes a brilliant appeal to the part of the brain that isn’t involved in thinking. Are you pro Israel? Vote Trump! Do you blame the Jews for everything? Vote Trump!
This article spells out, in a brilliant way the criminally and double standard of Hillary Clinton and your response is a juvenile attack on Trump. Are you one of those trolls paid for by millions from the Clinton foundation to go on line and spread stupidity while your candidate dances around a criminal investigation minefield?
If you’re voting for Clinton that is reason enough for me not too.
You’re nuts.
A little ambiguity is preferable to Zionist dicksucking.
Wapo says Jews are rethinking their support for Trump after antisemite tweet.Oh,yeah,they have been boosting Trump!Hahahaha.
The truth is antisemitic.And they can keep their 2% vote.
Duterte of the Philippines says US caused all ME strife!A breath of truth from the demonized.
And in Spain,a poster of Obomba with Jewish cash is also antisemitic.Again,the truth is antisemitic.
Mr. Greenwald – I’m a retired military member who held a top secret clearance and disagree with you on one important point: Under 18 U.S.C. 793(f), her actions were clearly criminal in nature, and she should be prosecuted. There is no need to show intent: The very fact that classified material was on her unsecured server is a crime. Secure systems, where this material resides, do NOT interface with non-secure systems…This information had to be willfully placed on her server (intent, btw…). As you have shown, I would have been prosecuted for far, far less.
I disagree that she was trying to keep personal info out of FOIA requests. She could have just used a personal email for personal communications like every other person does. I think she was hiding the quid pro quo things she was doing to launder money through the Clinton Foundation. Everyone always gives these common criminals the benefit of the doubt and they deserve none.
Glenn is wrong in that, the law leaves no wiggle room for the intent argument. This isn’t really subject to personal subjectivity. The law is explicilty in place with a disregard to intent. I don’t see how Glenn can say with a straight face that he doesn’t think she should be prosecuted in the context of this being a single case. No one argues with someone breaking any other law being prosecuted without intent to harm. Hell, huge numbers of our nations inmates are in jail over victimless “crimes.” One could say smoking dope on the street isn’t usually done with the intent on harming others, but nonetheless many argue they should be in jail because that is what the law dictates.
There is a cancer growing on the body of this government, and it has metastasized to all parts of the host.
It has infected the Executive Branch, The Legislative Branch, and the Judicial Branch.
ALL THREE BRANCHES, have given up on the founding principle, that America is a Nation of Laws and now consider it dependent on the whims of man.
The cancer is Zionism,as our Constitution,standing in the world,and nation are being consumed by it.
Deny it at your peril,or agenda.
Even more pathetic is that nobody can be genuinely surprised by this outcome.
It’s not just that the game is rigged, it’s that it’s OPENLY rigged and the country is either too impotent or ignorant to change that fact.
Myself, I’ll call impotent. Everyone else, I’ll call ignorant.
Well, there are conflicting interests here. It’s important to make a show of punishing secrecy violations, but to the extent possible, our judicial resources must also naturally be focused on defending the reputations of powerful and influential members of the community.
This, incidentally, is why certain forms of speech that nobody likes are criminalized, despite any so-called free-speech nonsense. Who would dare to defend the “First Amendment dissent” filed by a single, isolated, liberal judge in America’s leading criminal “satire” case? See the documentation at:
https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/
Indeed, news items on that case reveal that it was prosecuted as a private favor to a well-connected New York University department chairman; the NYTimes even quotes the chairman himself as boasting of the special treatment he was given, on account of his contacts with the FBI (“You know how the F.B.I. says, ‘once you’re one of ours, you’re always one of ours?'” he said. “It’s totally true.'”)
Or take the various individuals who have been charged with crimes for writing anti-bank slogans on the sidewalk with chalk. Prosecutors know what’s best, and in this regard they’e clearly acting on behalf of important private interests.
By contrast, take the Wall Street executives who destroyed the economy and who of course are not to be indicted for any crimes they may have committed. The district attorney of Manhattan was himself a white-collar defense lawyer before he was appointed to his position. All of this is perfectly logical, and perfectly appropriate in a great oligarchical nation such as the United States.
The author of this article is wrong in his contention that disclosure of highly classified information is not a felony if there was no malicious or criminal intent involved. By its very definition, TOP SECRET information disclosure causes extremely grave and unfixable harm to the security of this country. It does not matter whether the information was disclosed intentionally or not. However, if disclosed intentionally (as seems to be the case with Hillary Clinton) it becomes treason punishable by up to the death penalty. For the Director of the FBI to state her actions did not rise to a level requiring punishment is completely wrong and totally flabergasting.
It was hilarious how many on the left were in favour of brexit:
Probably would have happened anyway, maybe the populace can tip the RollsRoyces and get the message accross. When the 1% own 50% of the global wealth, and want more, you sorta have to wonder what the end will be? 67 of those ondividauls own 37% of the global wealth, only leaving 13% for the rest of the 1%!
“In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits…”
“I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality…”
Huh?
Yesterday Donald Trump got my vote. If I am forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, he is the lesser.
At this point scorched earth is my aim Four more years of this kind of BS will guarantee oligarchs will rule for the next century.
Donald can only do so much damage.
By the way, I’m glad to see that, post-brexit referendum, the UK health service is getting more funding, minimum wage is going up, Trident has been cancelled, there’s no panic to get foreign passports, no up-tick in racist incidents, and most importantly neo-liberalism has been defeated, all the formerly tory-lite labour members are rallying behind Corbyn, resolving the Scottish independence question, and setting a united Britain on a new path towards …oh no wait, wrong universe, hold on…oh dear!!!! What’s happened???? Where’s Boris? Where’s Nigel?
“Republicans from all corners blasted the decision. House Speaker Paul Ryan said it “defies explanation,” and presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump argued it proved the “system is rigged.” Texas Sen. Ted Cruz even went as far as to question Comey’s integrity.”
Billionaire funded Glenn–corporate funding is bad unless it goes to me–Greenwald has got some amazing bedfellows. Let us all agree on one thing: billionaire funding and lack of editorial oversight, is not good for legal objectivity.
You can raise the same stoopid up here that you already did below; it nevertheless remains stoopid.
How can Hillary Clinton protect America when she can’t even protect email? She is disqualified from being president.
So, sue her. Oh sorry, no can do, the docket is back logged for years with Trump lawsuits.
A hillaryous voter.
Hitler or Eva Braughn–your choice. They should run together.
Yes,I did see E.Warren(Braun)gesticulating wildly how she should join Hitlery on the ticket.
How can Hillary Clinton protect America when she can’t even protect email?
Maybe you’re unaware of this, but it’s not the president’s job to protect the nation.
Correct;The shrub failed miserably,and they made him a hero for doing so.
That’s when I knew the fix was definitely in,and that the MSM is our mortal enemy,along with their sponsor zion.
LOTE pop quizz:
A. Clinton: “We’ve put all of the information about Hillary Clinton’s State Department emails here. Just the facts, all in one place.” https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
B. Trump: “The system is totally rigged.” *plus, genuine crocodile tears …
Comey talks outside both ends of bis ass, Hitlery broke the law, according to Comey’s own statement… But Hitlery gets a pass. In the very same statement Comey says this about anyone else who does the same exact thing Hitlery did Comey said “To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”
The FBI director is as corrupt as Obama AND both Clintons!
Extremely Careless? …….. Really? Unfortunately I just got a DUI in the State of Illinois, I carry a CDL license to drive a truck that was my living $70,000 yearly income “Gone”….. I created the, so I’ll live with it. Maybe I should have told the Court’s I was Extremely Careless, maybe I could have skated scott free like Hillary. What a Joke!!!!!! I do hope the dishonesty for Hillary continues to grow and the American people show that at the polls in November!!!!
No doubt, Hilldabeast had no intention of installing an illegal server in her bathroom closet. It was an accident. Just an honest mistake. All that matters is that the Grubers believe it.
Hilldabeast and Oboingo standing together creates a black hole. Truth goes in and never comes out.
President Trump will have his work cut out for him cleaning up the endless domestic and foreign policy disasters and failures left to him by the Cesspool Obama Administration. Mr. Trump will also be forced to clean out the Democrat Vermin Filth inhabiting every Federal Agency.
The rethuglicans are just as responsible for our disaster as demoncrats.
Why do you think we voted Trump?He is on their sh8t list also,a bipartisan effort for Zion.
Know a man by his enemies,and Trumps enemies are Americas.
I keep reading there was no intent as if that even matters the way the law is written – it doesn’t.
There was intent to violate “federal standards” as the Inspector General wrote in his report. Hillary was warned twice about the use of her own server and she ignored both warnings. Hillary also claimed she had legal approval which the Inspector General also reported was false. The fact that Hillary made this claim implies she knew it was a legal problem so invoked this lie to deflect away from he violation of the law.
Comey’s description of what the FBI found sounded like an indictment. He said she basically violated statutes. She was extremely careless handling classified information. He said the information may have been compromised by our enemies. He said others would face punishment for doing the same thing. Then, after all of that, he said he would not recommend criminal prosecution. He said prosecutors would not take this case and that there are many things they look at.
That would include she is the first female presidential nominee from a major party in history. She is running for president. He said he understood the impact this investigation could have on an election. In other words, his recommendation was based on anything but the evidence against her which was massive.
But, there is also the second part of this investigation – the Clinton Foundation. Comey did not respond to questions on that except to say its ongoing.
Too important to prosecute has a very specific characteristic: a huge stake in the system, earned by service to the establishment, or perhaps partly inherited. Throwing away your stake, even if it is not large, is instant death. That is why whistleblowers always get prosecuted.
Thank you FBI, you forced me to vote for Trump – an utter douchebag who I despise. If I lied to FBI I’d be working on my soap gripping skills, while Hillary on the other hand, gets the chance to become my President. You have enabled her rotten corruption, and shown the ruling class can do anything. Now I understand why the French Revolutionaries gladly sent these types to the guillotine before they turned on themselves.
Remember how enraged the media was that Valerie Plame’s secret was outed?
They were happy to expose Plaime,she was against Zio interests in destroying Iraq.
Many seem to be wondering why Comey chose to use a synonymous phrase to the one that would have meant he had no choice but to recommend prosecution:
Let me go out onto the thin ice of speculation.
As pointed out, Comey is a Republican, and a career law enforcement official. As a Republican, he’s not going to do the Democrats any favours. He’s not going to go easy on her and risk his reputation. He’s going to do as much damage as he can, staying within the parameters of what he can justify professionally. At the same time, he knows that Obama is not going to allow Clinton to be charged, hand the presidency to the Republicans. And Comey knows that many in the government and the media accept that the enforcement of the law, as it is applied to mere mortals, must take a back seat, when top politicians are concerned. Indeed, Comey is part of that concensus. He doesn’t want Clinton actually to go to jail, any more than he wants Bush to go to jail, for his crimes.
…at this point it might be useful to brush up on other major stories on law breaking that were halted and the investigations that were investigations in name only…. when they risked affecting the outcome of an election. There was the investigation into the torture programme, that somehow, despite the dead bodies, the videos and pictures of victims, the authorization for it from Bush, couldn’t find anyone to prosecute.
So that is the government side, then there is the press, that believes that the news is not fit to print, when it risks costing the government an election. Take the NSA story that the New York Time held untill Bush was reelected, for example:
So the media, won’t print stories about crime that will swing an election, and the government won’t prosecute crimes that will swing an election. Under those circumstances…What was Comey to do? He did what is permitted, he made it clear that Clinton was “extremely careless”, hurting her as much as he could…but he simultaneously upheld the principle that Bush and Clinton are above the law. The alternative? Recommend prosecution…end his career with both Republicans and Democrats turning on his lack of loyalty, Obama would still refuse to prosecute Hillary, and Washington would carry on, Comey in disgrace, and Clinton supporters would no more care that Comey recommended prosecution, than they care that she was “extremely careless” in the first place.
Another hillaryous take.
They are neither repubs or demos,they are all ziowhores.
A bipartisan clique exposed by their support for the hell bitch.
He could have sent it to a grand jury, where a recommendation to prosecute or not would rest. There is no taint of disloyalty in upholding the law, at least among Republican on this file, so Comey had no fear on that number. At least then, the ball is in another court, and it would be the administration that would have to explain why Hillary is too big to jail.
Cake and eat it too? Despite your example I don’t see how he harmed her at all. He didn’t have to hold a presser to make the recommendation (clearly he’s not against HRC or the machine).
He did what any good cog in the wheel would do. He protected his masters.
April 2011 State Department Briefing:
“Can you explain why, if the United States is proud of its human rights record, that the UN special rapporteur [on torture] has complained that you’re not allowing him independent access to Bradley Manning?”
What a sad chapter in our history. I’ve never believed in conspiracies and have tried to trust my Government. But the last 20 years or so have led me to the conclusion that not only are thieves and morons running our Government, but now they have infested the FBI. The time line for this, starting with Clinton Meeting Lynch on the plane says everything there is to say. Comey , while reading the vast list of evidence against Hillary, looked as white as a ghost and almost afraid. I tend to feel sorry for this once respected, fair and responsible Federal Prosecutor.
Glenn, I like reading your work yet this one doesn’t look at the facts from two sides. Comparing her situation to Patreus as well as the others mentioned, when there was a clear “INTENT” to leak or hide classified information is just not a valuable argument to make against Hillary.
This women has been investigated so much it is ridiculous. Clearly, there was no malicious intent. It would be ridiculous for Washington to prosecute. The others had clear intent and obstructed justice. This article seems biased.
Comey really needed a hankerchief there at that announcement, he was sweating his career no doubt, if not his life.
Comey is a major disappointment. Nixon was on the verge of impeachment – forcing him to resign because of a cover up which had no national security consequences, as compared to the case against Hillary Clinton, and the nation survived. Comey comes across as illogical, and bi-polar. He first gave substantive reasons for why Clinton was guilty…being ” extremely careless in handling very sensitive, highly classified information. The bottom line Comey chose to focus on a lack of “intent” and overlooks her gross negligence which is all that is required to prove a violation of the Esponiage Act. The real question is why?
This is a theory….
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FBI Director James Comey did his job Tuesday by basically coming out and surprisingly indict Hillary and her corruption through a legal backdoor. James Comey in truth… fell on his political sword and could lose his job for this. Comey’s FBI, opened a huge door to the Whitehouse for Trump to walk through. If Hillary wins the election in November now… Trump would be shown as incompetent and your government and Country will be lost to history as a Free and Liberty loving land.
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Consider this….
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1. Comey laid out a step by step case of each Federal Law that Clinton broke in the first 14 minutes of his report. The evidence was overwhelming. His recommendation not to push this case to a Grand Jury was stunning. But Comey had a plan.
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2. Comey understood that if the FBI recommended for the case to go to a grand jury for an indictment and possible conviction… with the Dem Convention and the November Presidential election only 3+ months away… the Justice Dept and the Whitehouse would never move forward to send Hillary to trial. The damage to the Democratic party would be enormous.
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3. With the damning evidence the FBI found… and a possibility of Clinton being elected and becoming President of the U.S., the Justice Dept would never accuse, indict and convict a sitting U.S. President and send the Country into a Constitutional Crisis over Clinton’s abuse of power while as Secretary of State.
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4. James Comey knew, the Obama administration left the FBI between a rock and a hard place but Comey believed something had to be done to keep Hillary out of the Whitehouse, knowing the Federal Laws she ignored and broke. Comey knew he and the FBI didn’t have the authority to act as Judge and jury, so he did the next best thing… by acting as Judge and Jury and overstepping his authority in front of the U.S. voters. Then came the voter and media outrage.
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5. By presenting all the damning evidence the FBI found and brought forward in Clintons’ case… Comey and the FBI indeed convicted Hillary Clinton in the eyes, hearts and minds of the U.S. voters. Comey and the FBI will now pay a price for this action.
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6. Hillary won’t face charges, be convicted and face prison… today. But with a Trump administration and a new Trump Attorney General in place(Chris Christie)… the Federal Laws broken by Clinton can be revisited and a conviction can move forward. The ‘statute of limitations’ for Clinton’s law breaking will not expire any time soon. Understand this… Clinton’s only hope to not face conviction and also drag Obama into this debacle in the future… is for Clinton to become President. This is why Obama is so vigorously out front campaigning for a vastly weakened Hillary. Obama’s legacy is on the line and he knows it.
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7. The FBI and Comey, potentially gave the Whitehouse to the GOP candidate, being Donald Trump, if Trump skillfully uses the evidence found by the FBI against Clinton over the next 3 months… Trump should win the election in a near landslide. It’s Trump’s election to lose at this point.
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This was clearly James Comey and the FBI’s gift to Trump and the GOP. The FBI and the Justice Dept knew, they could not stop Hillary in time to meet the restraints of the November election. If this was James Comey’s ultimate plan… it was a stroke of brilliance. It’s to late for Obama and the Justice Dept to take back Comey’s evidence report and words. It’s out there in the voter’s mind’s and the major media. Pushing the button for Hillary Clinton now on election day… would put that voter in the same low class depths, that Clinton has sunk too.
Congress should move with all haste to prosecute Hillary for perjury. This administration was never going to pursue criminal charges against her but congress can prosecute her for her well exposed lies. However, the prosecution I would really like to see a racketeering charge for their influence peddling “charity” operation.
Trump on the proposed Iraq invasion from “factcheck dot org” (As if facts and Trump can be used in the same sentence)
While anti-war Americans, are left with only that clown Trump to vote for, isn’t that hilarious???, in the UK, Corbyn is still holding on, despite having only massive support of his party members and being proven right about the Iraq war.
some historic perspective – http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/081399iraq-conflict.html
roadside bombs are WMDs in Boston but not Iraq?
Trump had absolutely no to say about Iraq,and his wish they’d do it right instead of the idiotic revenge for 9-11 meme which meant that the whole project was shite from the start,at least reveals intelligence far beyond the perpetrators
Where did you stand?
If I had known that America had the best interests of the Iraqi people at heart instead of revenge and zion,I would have supported Iraq.
But I knew differently,as did many others it was all a charade by actual charlatans,who still hold all the levers of power,in our corrupt and evil present.
Hillary is now officially a disgraced liar. I cannot believe that she will not step aside for Biden or Sanders. She has no honor.
Over 300 million Americans and this is the best we can do.
OK.
Only Trump,in our current American political scene, has the mojo to take back America from the neolibcon globalist zionists.
beyond the greater of two foolish hopes
the key to mr. greenwald’s very curious argument is this:
> The sort of leniency and mercy and prosecutorial restraint Comey extended today to Hillary Clinton is simply unavailable for most Americans.
that’s his primary concern. yet he approves of the prosecutorial restraint shown by comey in clinton’s case. he agrees with comey’s decision not to prosecute while making it abundantly clear that he thinks clinton broke the law:
> Despite all of these highly incriminating findings, Comey explained . . .
> In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits . . .
> The Obama-appointed FBI Director gave a press conference showing that she recklessly handled Top Secret information, engaged in conduct prohibited by law . . .
why would greenwald want leniency in the case of an enormously powerful individual who clearly committed felonies if his primary concern is equal application of the law? if clinton had been given the same treatment as less powerful individuals when they mishandled classified materials wouldn’t that be the clearest and shortest and most impressive path to the goal? yes but greenwald has another concern: he has a strong bias against incarceration in general – against “putting people in cages” as he often puts it. he would much rather see people like manning and snowden and thomas drake go free than have people like clinton and petreaus be jailed. that’s the only way to make sense of a decision that otherwise seems utterly bizarre. that’s why he ends with this:
> But if there is to be anything positive that can come from this lowly affair, perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.
but it’s a foolish hope isn’t it? but is it more foolish than hoping that the powerful and powerless will ever receive equal treatment under the law? when all options seem hopeless it means that the analysis isn’t going deep enough
Edit: but is it more foolish than hoping that the powerful will ever be prosecuted with the same zeal as the powerless?
yes … BUT Comey specifically completely avoided using the word ‘reckless’. Why? Because characterizing HRC’s conduct as reckless would’ve immediately placed the FBI in a position of recommending a criminal charges. “Extreme carelessness” is an unrecognized unpunishable mental-state for all criminal statutes.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see how disgraceful the justice system is when justice depends on symantecs.
That’s how I read the article as well. I would also add, that Gleen generally and in this article speaks out against overuse of secrecy and classification in government, in the article citing Michael Hayden’s top secret Christmas greeting.
Rather than punish Clinton for failing to adhere to the opaque regime, which would send a message that the security state is absolute, we should seek to move in the other direction and extend leniency to the less powerful while making government generally more transparent in the process.
> I would also add, that Glenn generally and in this article speaks out against overuse of secrecy and classification in government
Right! He also speaks out against this: Denny Hastert is Contemptible, But His Indictment Exemplifies America’s Over-Criminalization Pathology
That article is actually another case where he is opposed to the felony prosecution of a prominent individual:
Thanks for the reply.
In the applicable statutory law, the FBI concluding that HRC’s conduct was ‘reckless’ would’ve fit a prosecution like a glove (not OJ’s). When mental-state is an element of any crime at any level (federal, state or local), the terms negligence, gross negligence and recklessness are mainstays. COMEY clearly BUCKLED and he customized a new category not recognized in the law being ‘ extreme carelessness’. NO DOUBT Comey at yesterday’s dud-fireworks of a press announcement recounted so many details amounting to recklessness, it would have thereafter been an easy layup for the DOJ. But he was careful not to step on the invisible high-voltage “3rd rail” and with requisite discipline he completely avoided use of the word ‘reckless’. As to Comey’s “no reasonable prosecutor would …blah blah blah” – what he meant was no reasonable prosecutor would like to commit law career suicide.
So, while Hillary takes the walk elites always do, Chelsea Manning has been hospitalized after an apparent suicide attempt.
Hard to blame her if she did try. HRC will never know deprivation of that kind. Like someone said up higher, it was foolish to hold on to that glimmer of hope that THE dem elite would be within reach of the law. When it comes to that, the FBI got a case of T-Rex arms.
This might not be popular with progressives?,but Manning was just an example of opening up the military to non military types.
As a transsexual,his empathy quotient was too high for indiscriminate murder.
Definitely not a full metal jacket boy.
In confirmation,it turns out the Dallas shooter was sent home for sexual harassment.
Mixing troops on the front lines is a recipe for defeat,which I really care not a whit about,as our military is useless in the age of zioterror.
Yankee come home,right your nation from the disaster of divide and conquer,issued by our traitors within.
Over at TD,and TO,its the modus operandi.I bet both sites are ziorun.
“no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case”
But, there is no lack of unreasonable prosecutors who would balk at nothing to claim their place on the slippery pole to stardom. Not sure this is in the bag yet, there is much to be bought out there.
‘ perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.’
That is sadly funny
Great article Glenn. FWIW, Comey was the guy who went after Martha Stewart: http://billlawrenceonline.com/comey-stewart-clinton/
“Mercy” only counts for the connected.
Thanks Glenn for your always wonderful articles and brave opinion.
What started democracy was basically suspension of any privileges to church and aristocrats. Truth is that in democracy what is consider NORM, Is equality befor justice but reality is that there is no such equality. Rules and laws once created to consider all asCITIZENs. That was the norm intended to stablish democracy. Powerful however interpreted the way their intrest is protected. From director comy who shows no dignity to clintons who are symbols of corruption to lynch who was to protect corrupts to warren who sold her soul to satan. You are Wright in everything you say. Wish we had millions like you
Good article but you failed to mention that she knows where the bodies are buried. The whole thing is sickening with no mention of all the Benghazi lies. Hard to believe that she would be qualified to be Commander-In-Chief. Perhaps more minorities will join “Black Lives Matter” because it is now obvious that all of us who are not part of the elite are minories and subject to the unjustices that are the result of not following the rule of law. Isaiah 59:14 says it all.
Great article Greg. FWIW, Comey is the guy who took out Martha Stewart: http://billlawrenceonline.com/comey-stewart-clinton/ Mercy only counts for the connected.
“The sort of leniency and mercy and prosecutorial restraint Comey extended today to Hillary Clinton is simply unavailable for most Americans.”
Yes, so how do Americans get equal protection under the law ?
At some point, we have to choose to fight and die for it.
There can be no greater proof that D.C. has become a nest of entitled permanent political class apparachik than this finding by the FBI. As a former DOD employee, I can tell you that had I done what Comey says she has done, I’d be serving 10 to 20 in a Federal Prison. I’ve had this discussion with Hillary supporters in the past 24 hours and when I ask “what makes her different?” I get stutters about everything but the truth. She’s too big to jail.
Why is common law called as much? Because it originated from the Court of Common Pleas, which concerned itself with disputes between commoners. Disputes between the king and anyone else were not within its jurisdiction.
If you need any evidence of an aristocracy in this country, look no further than one set of laws for the rulers and another set of laws for the plebs.
Wasn’t it Jefferson who said that from time, “….the tree of liberty, should be watered with the blood of tyrants…” The leaders don’t fear the people. Just look at the IRS being used against the people of the US, there are too many instances to recall. Very sad. The US is embarrassing to the founders.
Can’t you see all the attacks on the FFs from the Zionist media?Even Broadway is in on the act,elevating some pos noblesse oblige garbage as an American hero,better than Jefferson.What a crock of shite.
They hate our Constitution,as a level playing field,and justice for all isn’t in their vocabulary.
Washington D.C. home of the corrupt.
There is clearly a conspiracy to foist this POS upon the people.
To Hell with Hillary.
We shall not have it.
Feeds neeb to brace for a pogrom. The citizens are angry.
It’s now official , the U.S. has become a banana republic and the FBI has absolutely Zero integrity !
Hillary had no criminal intent? Who is kidding whom? How as secretary of State did the Clinton’s garner over $100 million? The answer is obvious: she accepted “donations” (read: shake down) from foreign governments. If such is not a criminal enterprise, I do not know what one is.
$3,000,000 for Chelsea’s wedding.We were broke when we left the WH!
The reasons why Her Hillaryness is being protected by the
corporate clubhouse FBI Inc. and other corporate clubhouse
members are twofold.
First, She has made sure that the PUBLIC has not had access
to how the clubhouse actually works, despite her reckless arrogance
(which is greatly admired in the clubhouse).
Secondly, Her Hillaryness is to be portrayed as a victim of
technology. It was Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning
who forced her to take these measures in order to protect
the clubhouse from scrutiny. Surely, this must be seen as their fault.
Her Hillaryness and His Trumpness keep showing how they
are forced to contradict themselves because they are just
clumsy, regular folks. The clubhouse rules and they are just
trying to figure it out.
Alas, it is SO confusing and Her Hillaryness and His Trumpness
can’t be blamed because they are SO simple-minded,
just like you and me!
Really,you haven’t noticed her complete surrender to Zionist whims?She is even proud of being a traitor.
I can’t fathom Americans disconnect from the reality of Zion and its total control of American policies,economic,foreign and domestic,through the (diminishing)power of the media,and its bribed govt.
The Graun(totally in the tank for the hillaryous one),had one small article with no comments re this decision.(At least yet)
What a bunch of wankers for zion.
Thank you for a hard-hitting analysis. The one issue I don’t see anyone addressing is why Obama and his team let Hillary get away with this security abuse for years.
Can you imagine,I’m with her,the criminal.hahahaha….
Yes by choosing a pro war candidate, this is the pretzel Democrats now have to bend themselves into, The Iraq war is now good….because Trump has been saying it was bad. Never mind that most of the world, including most Democrat supporters, agrees with him.
About 300,000? Americans lives would be much better off than being dead and maimed and having trauma for Zion.
And with Hussein in power,millions of Iraqis would still be alive and safe instead of this insanity from Yinon.
And all our dead American civilians for Zions expansion program.
Just about every terrorist mentions them as cause,but they must be lying on their deathbeds,all of them.
The rat that roared.
And like EF Hutton,we listen rapturously.
If you aint pissed off,you aint American.
Where have you been? The Dems have been reliably pro-war for longer than any of us have been alive.
Tony says the world is better off post Hussein.
He has the same disease as HRC.Moronity.
Job report;287,000 jobs created.
That included 35,000 striking Verizon workers returning to work,and 220,000? summer help hires.
Yeah,I believe it.
All of the modern presidents have done some serious lying. This story is proof that HRC is perfect for the job.
Yes,but at least most had some level of competence(shrub excluded,as he is a clone of the hell bitch)that she doesn’t.
Bent dick had smarts,if corrupt to the max.
Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are in a bar. Donald leans over, and With A smile on his face, says, “The media is really tearing you apart for That Scandal.”
Hillary: “You mean my lying about Benghazi?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the massive voter fraud?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Using my secret private server with classified material to Hide my Activities?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything Else?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, Hiring Cronies, And taking bribes from foreign countries?
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean the drones being operated in our own country without The Benefit of the law?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it Declared Bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “The funding of neoNazis in the Ukraine that led to the toppling of the democratically elected president and to the biggest crisis that country has had since WWII ?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Turning Libya into chaos?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Being the mastermind of the so-called “Arab Spring” that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa ?
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi and go to sleep?
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Encouraging and supporting the murders of Palestinians and the destruction of their homes, towns and villages by Israel ?”
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the “moderate” terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII
Trump: “No the other one:”
Hillary: “Leaving Iraq in chaos? ”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The DOJ spying on the press?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 Months Later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The NSA monitoring citizens’ ?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet”
Trump: “No, the other one.”
Hillary: “I give up! … Oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture, silverware, when Bill left Office?”
Trump: “THAT’S IT! I almost forgot about that one”.
He will tear her a second asshole.
Pretty good extensive list,except the Mubarak one,as Sisi is even more malleable for US.
Mubarak was sacrificial lamb to American image re arab spring.
But once the MB won election,the Zionists demanded regime change,and voila,Sisi.
Everyone keeps focusing on just her private server. WRONG. She directed her staff to move information from a classified server to her unclassified server and email account. CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE !!
Hillary Clinton, First Lady, Senator, former Secretary of State and presumptive Democratic Nominee transmits classified data to an unsecured and unauthorized email server. Public sources suggest the server was compromised by multiple parties. Ms. Clinton obfuscates the investigation. She lies to the Senate and the Justice Department. She is caught and substantial evidence is found. No charges are filed.
David Petraeus, Commander USCENTCOM and former director of the CIA, shares 5 classified personal journals with his mistress/biographer (who has security clearance). There is no evidence that any classified material was lost or leaked. He cooperates with the investigation, is charged with a misdemeanor mishandling of classified materials, and retires from public life.
There is a remarkable disparity between how these two cases have been handled.
“I don’t think what Clinton did rose to the level of criminality, and if I were in the Justice Department, I would not want to see her prosecuted for it. I do think there was malignant intent: using a personal email account and installing a home server always seemed to be designed, at least in part, to control her communications and hide them from FOIA and similar disclosure obligations.”
That’s every bit as contradictory as Comey’s tortured analysis. I’m living in an alternate universe.
What a joke this administration and everyone working for it is. A banana Republic of the first world sort.
Petraeus had his career ruined, yet HRC gets to run for POTUS while having done much worse.
Patraeus’ career is hardly “ruined.” He gets to walk around and make important speeches for gobs of money. It’s how the elite e$tabli$hment operates. Read the following article, Leaker, Speaker, Soldier, Spy: The Charmed Life of David Petraeus”
http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176160/
Hillary also leads a charmed life. Ahhh…that we all should be so “charmed.”
Landlocked and up hillaryous creek wo a paddle.
Petraeus makes his speeches to the same shiteheads as hillaryous by the way.They are partners in zion inc.
A 38,000 jobs a month banana republic.
But he’s doing a great job,and his poll numbers are soaring.(Obomba)
They revised Mays numbers down to 11,000 jobs created.Wow.
And they hail summer help hires as a sign our economy is not in the tank it is.
Burnishing the crab apple of Obomba.
That broom, suitable for flying, can also sweep many things under the rug.
The silver lining in this cloud is American people seeing how utterly corrupt their government is. This will increase mistrust in federal institutions and the elites leading them; a very healthy thing in a progressive nation.
Elites and their hierarchies have proven themselves to be: liars (Watergate, Gulf of Tonkin, Pentagon Papers, Iraq WMD), incompetent (wars in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, financial crisis), evil (COINTELPRO, Tuskegee, church child abuse), venal (war profiteering, DC’s revolving door, endless bribery, tax cheating, offshore tax evasion), and unworthy of an ounce of trust with regards to actions and statements (revelations from Wikileaks, Snowden, Clinton emails, and the associated falsehoods, schemes, and violations all exposed).
Mistrust of powerful elites is healthy because ambitious people are often terrible leaders, regularly combining academic intelligence, professional incompetence, awful judgment, greed, a lack of morality and ethics, willingness to lie without remorse, entitlement, and an instinct for always putting their interests above all else. In other words, the exact opposite of characteristics desirable in leaders. Mistrust of officials can only help prevent corrupt officials from exercising terrible judgment in affairs of state that can only hurt this nation and its people.
This writer of this article seems to insinuate that because there was no intent that it was proper to not bring charges. That is wrong. The laws she is accused of breaking only need that the individual need be negligent to be found guilty.
When are we going to stop talking and writing about our Corrupt government and do something about it?
What can we do you ask? …..well voting sure as hell doesn’t work…so try something else.
One thing we could do is stop being Dems or Republicans and start being Americans whose UNITED political platform is ‘CLEAN THE CORRUPTION OUT OF GOVERNMENT’!!!
And then get in the politicians faces individually, cull them from the protection of the herd, get up close and personal, on their phones, on their faxes, on them in the street, on them at their speeches, in their home towns, EVERYWHERE.
My sentiments exactly.
A ban on political contributions beyond individual limited donations would end this corruption right now.
Citizens United was the unleashing of Zio(and Saudi) corporate dough on American democracy,destroying one man one vote.
Bipartisan trickery for Zion.
18 U.S. Code § 2071 – Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a)
Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)
Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, §?552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §?330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
This is pretty funny as well, check out the headline:
To sum up, only partisan opponents care about the handling of secret documents….Obama is popular, so vote Hillary…and not being charged with a serious crime, is a great day for the next US president. (Vote Clinton, She’s not a crook!!!!)
Obomba is revered by the black community.
Outside of they,and HRC feminists,he is considered a f*ck up,and is not popular at all.
And his appearance with her yesterday,on the heels of that announcement was very damaging to his legacy,as it reveals (again and again)how corrupt he is.
The bad news: In January 1996, the late New York Times columnist William Safire described Hillary Clinton as “a congenital liar.” Okay, so maybe nothing has changed very much over these past twenty years.
The good news: Hillary Clinton may be a crook, but she is “our crook.” She and her husband never forget who signed the front side of their big money, Wall Street donor checks. Yes folks, and those are the same men and women who preside over the investment portfolios of those with significant money in the market.
So God bless America, crony capitalism, our first constitutional scholar President, and his successor, Hillary Clinton too.
Uh-oh. Greenwald quoted Jefferson and not Hamilton.
Hamilton was a tyrant who would have been perfectly happy with Clinton getting off.
What quotes was Hamilton known for?In my life,I’ve never seen one,only his face on a 10 dollar bill.
The Wapo piece was written by Eugene Robinson,a hillaryous supporter of uninspiring intellect.
She claims she is a feminist, but didn’t she say she would put Bill in charge of the economy. Is she admitting a man would be better at it than her?
Bill, who meets with the AG, days before the report, impeached, disbarred, and can’t tell the truth either.
I am flabbergasted she has a chance at all and was even nominated.
I knew this was coming the minute I heard that the FBI was interviewing Clinton on a Saturday evening over the 4th of July weekend. Whenever government officials want to cram a turd sandwich down the people’s throat, they always pick a time when they know the fewest people would be paying attention.
If I encounter any person who plans to vote for Hillary I will profusely lie to them. If the weather forecast is sunny, I will tell them to expect rain. It’s time for Hillary supporters to live In the world they want to create.
I guarantee HRC bumper stickers and lawn signs will be targets of angry Americans.
That’s why I haven’t seen one yet!
Ah yes, let’s psychoanalyze Clinton, why does she want war after war? It can’t be as simple as her fat bank account, can it?
BS;Gallup is full of shite,all Americans of either party,other than zionists,know it was a clusterf*ck.
WTF got Trump the nomination,but his critique of Iraq and its subsequent disasters?
“Washington Has Been Obsessed With Punishing Secrecy Violations”
Correction:
Washington Has Been Obsessed With Punishing Secrecy Violations that made obama and the proggresives look bad. And letting Hillary run free justs continues that.
Wrong.
The headline is totally accurate. Washington elites punish low-level secrecy violaters — and not the Important People — whether Republican or Democrat. The article sets forth ample evidence of this fact.
Moreover, neither Obama nor Hillary Clinton qualify as progressives. Both are centrists, essentially neoliberals, and both belong to the duopoly in which the elite are above the law.
Have “centrists “ever bent the Constitution and the rule of law as these people?
Mondale was a centrist. Muskie was a centrist.Humphrey was a centrist.Eisenhower was a centrist.JFK was a centrist.
These clowns are radical neolibcon acolytes of zion,traitors,actually,putting the interests of other nation(s) before ours.
If it wasn’t for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all.
But who is a liberal, really? A Clinton supporter? In that case the word has long lost its meaning if it ever had one.
But the liberals believe they are liberal,despite their nazi tendencies to smear anyone with a different view.
Sir Edmund Burke (1700s) “All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing” – and Comey did “nothing”.
…”with liberty and justice for all”.
Just another meaningless slogan pledge to the Clintons and their supporters.
The Obama administration has prosecuted more leakers under the 1917 Espionage Act than all prior administrations combined…until Hillary. There are 2 sets of rules and this administration is corrupt to the core.
Speaking of Clinton’s “mistakes”….
Hilarious, the Blairites that helped Bush and Clinton destroy Iraq, created millions of refugees, created a space for ISIS….are calling Corbyn, who opposed the war of aggression, a “disgrace”.
And the zionist controlled media in Britain is driving the hatred of Corbyn,all because he utters truth.
Intent has nothing to do with “gross negligence” standard. What part of that are you missing?
Clinton is a negligent, hypocritical fraud of the lowest rank of integrity. Thus, if “felony charges appear to be reserved for people of the lowest ranks”, she qualifies with flying colors.
A stinking zionist traitor also.
Clinton should easily qualify If, indeed, “felony charges appear to be reserved for people of the lowest ranks”. She is a negligent, hypocritical fraud of the lowest rank of integrity.
The only issue I take with you, Mr. Greenwald, is your opinion that what Clinton did does not rise to the level of criminality – it most certainly did. The statute at issue here is Section 793(f), title 18 of the federal penal code. That statute does not require a determination of intent, which is what Comey implied in his remarks. All it requires is gross negligence with respect to the handling of classified information, which Clinton exhibited in spades (and Comey himself admitted in his remarks). She held classified info on unprotected servers. She transmitted classified info to and from those servers. She shared that information with people who did not have the necessary security clearances required to access it. She broke that law in so many demonstrable ways that it was a bit odd to hear Comey say that no “reasonable” prosecutor would bring charges based on the evidence the FBI uncovered. I think Washington politics ruled the day here – Comey’s decision otherwise makes no logical sense.
Hillary is not done yet for her legal problems. Judicial Watch has several court pending cases related to her. The positive is that this brings her lawless character to light. Whether you belong to either party, Hillary is bringing her true self out to the public. Now, do you want a person as this as President? We will find out. Also, time to clean up our Representatives-either party. Establishment types have to go.
“… perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton”. Yeah that’s gonna happen.
“Still, charging someone with a felony requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
Should drunk drivers who kill motorists not be charged with felonies because they didn’t intend to break the law or intend harm?
Should a thief who shoots and kills their victim not be charged with murder because they didn’t intend to kill them when they began robbing them at gun point?
Thanks Glenn, so what else is new?
And further from juan Cole today:
“Because on the animal farm, some animals are more equal than others.”
I bet he meant it different than Orwell. He believes it,that neoshite.
The decision yesterday proved to ALL the government is corrupt to the core. Comey the Paid For outlined all the reasons why the incompetent, corrupt liar Hillary Clinton SHOULD be indicted.
His only reason why she shouldn’t? She’s Hillary Clinton.
what about the records handling statute … nothing to do with classifications … she destroyed official government records …
A musical review of why Hellery deserves prison rather than the WH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9XQOng0EaM
Simply lying to the federal government is a five year sentence in America. Ask Martha Stewart. So even if you think her reckless behavior did not arise to criminality, though it was gross negligence and intent never had to be proven, she lied to the Feds. This is perjury and she should be held accountable for it.
Where are you getting that from? She lied to the public, but that isn’t illegal.
Have you read her testimony to the FBI to arrive at that claim?It really didn’t matter how much she lies,the fix was in from the most corrupt administration in American history,leaving shrubs in the dust.
When you defend shite,it rubs off on you.
Again: Where are you getting that she lied to the FBI?
I trust in track records.Serial liars lie serially,or is that a claim out of the blue dress?
And how do you know she didn’t?
This cover up reveals the utter un-trustworthiness of our governmental institutions under the corrupting influence of zion,who hate our Constitution and the rule of law.
And their total support,as GG notes,for her reveals all I say as true.
weilunion declared without caveat: “she lied to the Feds.”
There is no evidence this is true, and one should not assert that it is in the absence of it.
Neither Comey nor any other appropriate figure says Clinton did this. Moreover, she is a canny lawyer, and would know full well that lying to the FBI is one crime that might piss it off enough to actually prosecute.
Are you saying Comey isn’t possibly corrupt(of course he is with this outcome)?He is above lying,or obfuscating?
As I said,i don’t believe we’ve seen her testimony,and to believe this bunch of losers un- verifiable truth that she didn’t lie,is an exercise in gullibility.
And no,she is not a canny lawyer,or even a competent Senator or SS.
She is a bubbleheaded bobblehead for zion with not one credible accomplishment in her 15 years in govt.,a track record of lies,and her coronation as POTUS candidate had absolutely nothing to do with rhetorical skill,(she’s terrible), or revealing press conferences(she had none),it was a fixed event to replace our current pos with another pos.
You have said this before,that she is smart.
Please elucidate with evidence.
Going to the poison ivy league does not infer intelligent decision making or good govt,in fact it infers poison.
In an authoritarian State, the authorities can do no wrong.
By definition.
Just curious how someone who couldn’t even get a security clearance after what Hillary has done (i.e. “extreme carelessness” with security information) could be Commander In Chief. Shouldn’t that automatically disqualify her that she couldn’t get or keep a security clearance? I’m ashamed to think she has even the minutest chance of being the first woman President. Women (and men) deserve far better than a liar and someone “Most Likely to be Blackmailed.” :(
Simply amazing that people would even consider voting for this serial f*ckup,with a track record of lies and shite to rival any of histories bad actors.
It was never a question of “if” she would be cleared, it was only the “how”.
Year plus long investigation, countless FOIA suits, 1000s of man-hours, reams of emails deleted and/or never disclosed, empty depositions tightly scripted by football teams of lawyers, and finally a Saturday morning interview (not under oath) by the star of the show herself, gave the American people a clear view of the wreckage of what’s left of our political system.
I once held a very high security clearance at the DOD, and as Mr. Greenwald points out, the mere mishandling of classified material, much less clearly displaying a pattern of obfuscation regarding such, is always treated as a very serious matter resulting in career decapitation at best.
Justice was not served. We all know this. This election cycle has been impressively successful at one thing. If nothing else, the American people should now be be able to see clearly that our government has an entrenched agenda that does not include being open with its people.
They want her to be President. The American people don’t. And we really don’t want to be double Clintoned with the likes of him. But this is what we got. It’s being shoved down our throats. It was preordained. They just decided for us.
#StillSanders
The demoncrat idiots just committed political suicide,and yes,Sanders would have been a much more formidable candidate vs Trump that this road kill.
I’d like to hope that this case would mark the end of ridiculous overclassification. We have seen a system of “secrets” branch out into a purely nominal protection that is designed more at setting up a caste system of who is and isn’t allowed to know things than genuinely keeping information safe from any foreign power. When a system like SIPRNet has 500,000 people who can access it, that is not secret, that is just a system for peasants to bow and scrape and say “My Lord” a lot. And it provides real risk by creating a way to underclassify the serious stuff, like the names of the collaborators with American occupiers, which properly speaking should be kept in one single safe in an embassy somewhere on a piece of paper with somebody responsible in charge of it.
That said, I think it’s more likely that this will be more like the John DeLorean prosecution that pretty much marked the end of the entrapment defense as a thing. We’ll probably see even more bullshit classification as the elite try to figure out a way to keep their own from scandalously slipping through the net. Which is what The Intercept seems to be asking for, but not what I want.
This is an exception? You gotta be kidding… (you are kidding, right?)
Because of this, of course: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAjKgT9UMAAliSF.jpg
Wall street was bailed out on the grounds they were “too big to fail.” Clinton won’t be prosecuted because she’s “too corrupt to jail.”
Not sure which animates Greenwald more here: the overuse of classification systems within the government, or Hillary Clinton not being prosecuted. His hatred of Clinton, Democrats, the party system here, the United States and its fallible leaders, in general (?) really is matched only by his self-righteous self-importance. Greenwald used to be a voice of reason – somebody with great logic, a great mind, and a terrific writer who even could address the problems without being an unhinged lunatic. Somewhere along the way, though, he became judge, jury and executioner from atop some mountain the rest of us don’t occupy. So, his holier-than-thou sermons and ax-grinding have become little more screeching moral purity.
Deflection is so easy to spot nowadays. The public has overcome its conditioning.
I guess you didn’t read,as he backed the decision.
You say you believe the FBI made the right decision in declining to prosecute. But isn’t HRC’s utter contempt for the public worth some legal consequences, even if it’s not a felony? I agree with you that there was clearly intent to break the law by concealing her activity from FOIA scrutiny. But to me, this constitutes a serious offense, and I think she should be/should have been found guilty and held accountable for it. In addition to the double standards about the seriousness of mishandling classified info, this is what I find so galling. Of course, she’s done so much harm in so many ways to the public in the U.S, and around the world that these violations, in the context of her egregious and bloody record, can seem rather small. Still, it pisses me off that she gets off scot-free. With respect to preserving public records as well as war mongering, she seems worse than Nixon and her hero, Kissinger. Disgusting and loathesome, the whole lot of them!
“Still, charging someone with a felony requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
I’d have thought you, Glenn, would agree that shielding official emails from FOIA scrutiny *is* “substantial intended harm.”
Hillary has decades of political experience under FOIA compliance. Her intent seems beyond obvious.
I am a democrat, but I do not have any intention of voting for Hillary Clinton. I firmly believe that the Democratic Party is no longer what it claims to be. It has been hijacked by corrupt, greedy, money hungry politicians and their sponsors. Bernie Sanders won by a landslide, and yet Hillary has already been declared the nominee. California ballots have even been counted yet! What the hell kind of country is this that Hillary Clinton was able to essentially walk through scandals, lies, voter suppression and election fraud, money laundering (Clinton Foundation) crimes against humanity (Clinton Foundation is tearing up the developing world), a history of brutal regime changes and coups, etc.? There is so democracy in the U.S., and the irony is that the “Democratic National Party,” is the opposite of Democracy. Hillary is already president of the United States; Biden said she’ll win, and so do the multinationals and banks and every other power mongering idiot in the world. Why bother with primary or general elections anymore? The tragedy is that Hillary actually won very few votes and millions turned out for Bernie Sanders, the only honest, geniune, and truly democratic person, who is also the only person that could save this country from committing suicide. I will vote down ballot for dems, but NEVER for Hillary! And, by the way, as a woman, I have absolutely NO respect for any claims of sexism Hillary or sell-out Elizabeth Warren use as excuses for their behavior or for someone else’s treatment of them. The DNC and main stream media and HRC actually tried to say Bernie Sanders is sexist! Just because he wants to take his campaign to the convention. Didn’t HRC take her campaign to the convention back in 2008? Man or woman, it’s the content of the character that matters.
Just so you know, the republicans have the same view as you about republicans. Donald Trump was our middle finger to republicans, and we hope it destroys all of them.
Joe Bitem is another idiot moron,so don’t believe him.
Trump in a landslide.Yee hah!
Hear! Hear! The complete exemption from the rule of law enjoyed by the wealthy and powerful is anathema to a free and democratic society. Democrats should be ashamed that they are crowing with pride that the best they can say about their likely nominee now is that she wasn’t indicted. Nixon was run out of office for far less and deservedly so! This is a sad day for the rule of law and for our republic.
This is corruption on every level starting with BHOBAMA. Wgen a tree dies, it dies from the top, down. His tree is dead.
C’mon,no time for party nonsense.It is both parties that have betrayed America.The shrub wasn’t a liar and corrupt?Bent Dick?
this is just another example of my biggest issue with her: we’re told she’s a “smart, savvy woman” and her selection is a giant victory for “feminism” (meaning women have the same right to be murdering, psychopathic whores that men have always enjoyed) and yet every time she gets caught it isn’t “i did it because i’m an evil piece of shit”, it’s “oops! i made a mistake cuz i don’t know nuthin’ cuz i’m just a dumb girl – tee hee!”
from iraq to libya to this her excuse is always supposed ignorance. as if that’s better than criminal intent. she’s not just unaccountable; she’s disingenuous and insulting about it.
I don’t know much about Andrew McCarthy, except that he was once a former assistant U.S. attorney. He writes this at the National Review.
Can this be true? That they just rewrote the law for HRC’s sake?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437479/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hillary-hook
There is no way of getting around this: According to Director James Comey (disclosure: a former colleague and longtime friend of mine), Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust. Director Comey even conceded that former Secretary Clinton was “extremely careless” and strongly suggested that her recklessness very likely led to communications (her own and those she corresponded with) being intercepted by foreign intelligence services. Yet, Director Comey recommended against prosecution of the law violations he clearly found on the ground that there was no intent to harm the United States.
In essence, in order to give Mrs. Clinton a pass, the FBI rewrote the statute, inserting an intent element that Congress did not require. The added intent element, moreover, makes no sense: The point of having a statute that criminalizes gross negligence is to underscore that government officials have a special obligation to safeguard national defense secrets; when they fail to carry out that obligation due to gross negligence, they are guilty of serious wrongdoing. The lack of intent to harm our country is irrelevant. People never intend the bad things that happen due to gross negligence.
Sorry, the quoted part from the article is under the link ^ –forgot the quote marks
presumptuous insect: you are EXACTLY RIGHT!
No. Director Comey made clear, in no uncertain terms, under similar circumstances other lesser mortals would be subject to the full extent of the law.
*you’re probably thinking of the retroactive immunity FISA amendments act of 09 pi.
Gah. I took the headline literally. But when he says “rewrote” he just means a verbal shift, I guess.
Yes this is true, and it’s my single point of contention with Mr. Greenwald’s piece above. The statute does NOT require an examination of “intent”. All a person has to have done is act with gross negligence in the handling of classified information, which is precisely what Clinton did. However Comey inserted a determination of “intent” into his analysis and judged that Clinton didn’t intend for the classified info she stored on the multitude of servers she used to be there in the first place. The problem with this is the statute doesn’t care about intent. For example: let’s say I get drunk at a bar and on my drive home I hit another car and kill someone. I could say to the Judge, “well I didn’t INTEND to kill anyone when I decided to get drunk and drive home”. Do you think the judge would give a rat’s rear end?
Glenn: I don’t know if my email to you was even read, but I couldn’t be more proud of this piece than if I wrote it myself. Keep up the good work. We all need you.
You failed to point out a huge difference between Hillary Clinton and your cited examples: Daniel Ellsberg, Tom Drake, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Leon Panetta and David Petraeus.
The people Hillary was emailing classified info back and forth with were cleared to have this information. She wasn’t “leaking” it to people who weren’t cleared for it.
Idiot,she had an unsecured server,where anyone could read it.(or those interested at least).
Vaginal juice sisterhood.
Right on, Glenn. My whole family has tremendous respect for your integrity as a journalist and a person, not to mention your courage. Also—and I say this as a writer—just about every sentence that comes out of your mouth is so well formed it sounds like it is written.
Mrs. Clinton exhibited poor judgment, lying and reckless behavior – she is clearly POTUS material. This should put to rest any lingering doubts she benefited from her relationship with Bill Clinton. She possesses the same attributes he does, but to an even greater degree. One would probably have to go all the way back to Richard Nixon to find a President who exceeded her achievements in these key areas.
Mr. Comey no doubt privately pointed out to Mrs. Clinton a number of instances where her sworn testimony was factually inaccurate – each instance liable to a 5 year sentence for obstruction of justice. Such charges are purely at the FBI’s discretion, however, and I’m sure they will be happy to sit on them, in exchange for the leverage it gives the FBI. The FBI has always been accommodating in this way. Lesser people, of course, should be simply thrown in jail but it would be a shame to waste good leverage over the powerful.
Having too much leverage over a president can be a double edged sword, however, since it gives the president a strong incentive to eliminate you. So Mrs. Clinton’s relationship with the FBI over the next four years will be an interesting one.
On a minor note, the author of this article appears to be something of an anarchist. He seems to be channeling Mr. Proudhon, who wrote in 1851: “Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of government”.
You act like her election is a forgone conclusion.
Double standards abound:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2016/07/vaxxeds-del-bigtree-you-have-been-heard-video.html
Cory Doctorow on why I and many progressives will not vote for Hillary Clinton, my emphasis:
Brilliant post.
“or reject the offer and both of them get none”
This is ‘scorched earth’ policy. It isn’t so much a person wishes to harm themselves, but rather they are willing to sacrifice both parties to an unfair proposition and deny to the oppressor a victory in any sense.
Not in this scenario. Punishing neoliberals with losing would have two huge benefits: 1. One wouldn’t see “progressive” Democrats supporting every war, every civil liberties contraction, every blow to the safety net, and opposing every proposal to address the yawning equality/income gap. They’d mostly talk and act like actual progressives if a Republican is in office, and 2. It would kill off neoliberalism that much faster (it’s going to die anyway, but needs a speedier demise.) Dems who want to win would stop being GOP Lite.
In the medium-term, the earth is not scorched; it’s watered.
“One wouldn’t see “progressive” Democrats supporting every war, every civil liberties contraction, every blow to the safety net, and opposing every proposal to address the yawning equality/income gap. ”
They are doing this NOW under Obama. What makes you think they’d act any different with Trump in the WH.
“It would kill off neoliberalism that much faster”
It’s pretty much already dead in the Democratic Party. The only hope for liberalism is to split the Democratic Party in two with Sanders taking Progressives with him. Politicians have to be forced into doing something. They don’t do it by choice. It’s always out of political necessity.
Nice. Ult. game brings to mind this: Payback’s a bitch. usually viewed only one way, but when acting as the karmic cop he/she/society punish itself in someway to right the wrong.
Another illiberal hit on Trump and Brexit supporters.
We want to flip the table,sheesh.
The table has been flipped already by these criminals,we want a return to the rule of law,and America First instead of Israel First,our current reality.
What does Bryan Nishimura and Hillary Clinton have in common? Both downloaded classified materials to their personal devices. Why not mention Bryan, Glen? Hillary got rebuked by the FBI Director in a public press conference. Bryan got 2 years probation, a 7,500 fine, and permanent loss of security clearance. Maybe a petition to President Obama for a pardon for Bryan in light of what his justice department just did? At least call on him to do so. Someone should point out the inequality of it for the sake of Bryan. No one listens to an old curmudgeon. I tweeted Donald though.
It’s extremely unlikely that the 1% that now includes Hillary will do anything to improve their injustice toward the 99%. Systemic injustice is how they retain their undeserved power.
That’s right. Collapse must precede serious improvement.
I guess we are regressing to the age of feudalism with the 1% as aristocracy and the 99% as peasants. OK, but even the old aristocratic system had some justice, some fairness. I say that she as an elite is an aristocrat, and entitled to preferential treatment – so let’s hang her with a silken rope
The worst part of the transcript was this: “To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”.
In other words, don’t get any ideas; we won’t treat others the same way we treated her. I couldn’t believe he had the gall to say it aloud.
I do have to point out that he said “security and administrative sanctions,” not legal or criminal ones. Clinton is no longer an employee of the Dept of State, so I don’t see what security and administrative sanctions they could pursue if they wanted to.
They could yank her security clearance.
Like they did Bill’s law license.
Yes, they could yank her security clearance but other than embarrassment, it wouldn’t amount to anything. There’s been discussions online about whether there’s a conflict if a sitting President has had her clearance previously revoked, but the consensus is that the office of the Presidency has top secret clearance, regardless of who’s sitting in the Oval Office, so top secret info can be given to a Pres. Clinton even if she has no personal clearance to it.
Also, unlike the FBI, the security clearance revocation would have to be initiated by State or the National Security Board, but most likely the White House can pressure them to not go through with that.
Is there something about equal treatment under the law somewhere? Does the FBI take an oath to uphold and defend the U.S. Const?
Political elite will not demand reasonable response and leniency Glenn.
There is one set of laws for the powerful and connected and another set of laws for everyone else. It is pretty much Animal Farm.
Crisply and succinctly summarized, Glenn, with the usual accuracy and rigor.
It’s just too fucking bad that this is simply business as usual in our oligarchy and the chances of meaningful change are slim and none, ain’t it?
Surrender monkey talk.
Hillary routed her SoS govt emails thru a private server, knowing that was against the rules and law, to avoid future FOIA requests/ public scrutiny. Don’t think that is in question at this point.
Why would she do that?
To hide her influence peddling is the only reason I can think of. For instance, approving arms sales for payoffs to Clinton Foundation.
How is there no criminal intent / deliberate intent to break the law there?
If only we had that silver lining that Glenn hopes for, at the end. But we all know, it’s business as usual, from here on in. Mess with the system, and it bites back.
Poor Bernie Sanders. Now the email episode is over, he should respect the rule and quit the race. But he still has a path to become President – the President of my school. If the students don’t do well, he can blame it on the teachers. If the teachers don’t do well, he can blame it on the school. If the school doesn’t do well, he can blame it on the educational system.
Wonderfully written. I’ve read many pieces and watched news all day and nobody else touched on several points you did.
However, I think there’s something to be said of the 25+ years that people have been going after the Clintons – for almost anything, true false or somewhere in between. Knowing full well that Mrs. Clinton was going to run for president back when she excepted the job the Secretary of State, she knew that absolutely everything she did was to be scrutinized. I would imagine there was an element of paranoia residing with those servers in the bathroom.
Not that this matters to this site, but Comey was originally appointed by Bush and served as Deputy Special Investigator for White Water…hardly a Clinton-Obama hack…
Reappointed or kept by Obomba infers his acceptability to the Obomba administration.
Very very weak.
Nothing exemplifies The epitome of TYRANNY in plain view than the puppets of the corrupt establishment pretending to be for democracy when they are subverting it at every turn while keeping the masses entertained rather than informed along with the domestic and foreign lapdogs of the corrupt establishment perpetuating the farse/propaganda/lies/facades/hypocresy. – Alejadnro Grace Ararat.
By deception we shall be potus and do war. Disgusting is short.
Nonsense. This was not an example of reasonable leniency that, if applied to everyone, would be a positive outcome. This is another example of the kind of madness we still can’t seem to shed since the founders rebelled against the King of England. People in positions of power, grave responsibility, privilege and public trust must be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. In a sane, just world, the bigger you are, the more severe the punishment should be. Hillary abused the public trust, broke the law, ordered her staff to break the law and lied to the public repeatedly about her actions. She is unfit for public office. That, essentially, is what Comey said. He said any reasonable person should have known what Clinton claims not to have known, inferring that her ability to reason is suspect. Don’t make excuses for her or for this incredibly shameful and corrupt moment in our history. She has a disrespect for the law and for the truth. Period. No one, regardless of the circumstances, should be President if that is the case.
Well said.
I second that.
This is a whole metric f**kton of truth. Bravo.
As you may have noticed, special treatment for the powerful and important is a “feature” of virtually every human society (and most others) about which we know enough to evaluate.
It would be nice to be able to “fix” it but, beyond the local level it’s probably wishful thinking.
The good news is that organizations as large as nation states have a relatively short shelf life. Along with global industrial capitalism, they are incompatible with sustainability in a post-peak resource world.
There;s nothing good about that. At all.
Yeah,he is another silver lining in BS detector.
You like nation states, global capitalism and a system that is unsustainable in the physical world we inhabit?
“Hillary abused the public trust, broke the law, ordered her staff to break the law and lied to the public repeatedly about her actions.”
That’s all one needs to know. Disgusted and disheartened at this news, if not surprised.
Well, Mr. Comey has made it perfectly clear what citizens are working with and up against. Since government officials cannot or will not do their job, we voters are left with the absolute necessity of doing ours- come November.
I think it was Anatole France who said, “Only the rich can get justice; the poor cannot escape it.”
Actually, it was Henry Demarest Lloyd who said it. Sorry….
Anatole France said something about the rich and the poor being equally prohibited from sleeping under bridges. I think many Americans would not understand why that is funny.
It’s perfect, really:
And I think you may be right about most Americans . . .
1% speak.
@ photosymbiosis ? General Hercules
July 5 2016, 11:50 p.m.
I am replying here since I don’t want to enable javascript which I would have to do if I was to reply to your message in the right place. I think everyone should also be careful when replying as this could be an invasion of privacy.
Yes, you are right, Hillary Clinton is totally Crooked and Liar. I am wondering how you will allow her to be the president?
Look at her eyes. The smile she flashes is totally fake. No wonder her husband got attracted to all other females.
Yeah most of her smiles look totally fake. But there’s this one picture from about a decade ago where she’s at an event and has her arm around donald trump and is smiling at him…and that smile looks totally genuine. A huge toothy grin with beaming eyes. It says a lot.
That is sort of the point of sending Trump to Washington. It isn’t just Clinton. It’s the whole Globalist Regime.
We want regime change.
Yes!
But lower-level State Dept. workers AREN’T going to be punished, which kind of shoots holes in your entire argument.
Only because they’d need a gallon of WD40 to stop the squeaks as they turn on their master.
So much for trying to comment as my @1:45pm query was dumped–again! Why do I bother with this site again?
Here’s an example of a “double standard” of justice:
http://www.chicksontheright.com/man-who-committed-same-crime-as-hillary-clinton-found-guilty/
Good one! From the linked post:
We know how much leniency to expect from Hillary Clinton, whose personality sort of reminds me of the Borgias. The hypocrisy is breathtaking and the yankee regime reveals itself to no longer be following precepts of the rule of law since, as Mr. Greenwald has indicated, and been a key source of documentation on this fact, the yankee regime is unyielding in its persecution of underlings, but singularly merciful towards the powerful. I think that, in light of the harpy’s role as a war criminal in Libya and the enabler of genocide (the jihadis she supported committed a mass murder of ethnic Africans settled in Libya as part of their takeover) she is totally unfit for any official position and should be rattling a cage herself.
Yankee regime?Holy shite.It’s a Zionist regime.America last.
Saw the movie Air Force a while ago.A 1943 propaganda laden racist movie re Pearl Harbor and the Philippines.Very entertaining,and full of action though,despite its prejudice.
There was at least one Jewish character in it,and he was full on board American.1948 changed all that.Sad.
If you are a Democrat or Republican and are discussed with your parties presumptive nominee
maybe it’s time to send each party a message that they can’t ignore will understand . Vote for
independent candidates ! ! !
I know the American public must find it hard to believe that we are that stupid, but it must be so
because we keel electing Democrats & Republicans time & time again, maybe it is time for a real
change & elect Independent Candidates. Enough of this insanity !
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Albert Einstein
If we take away their money & power then we can take away their toys. Elect those who have your
interest in mind & not the self serving interest of the Democratic & Republician parties or that of
Corporate America. We don’t need the worst POLITICIANS money can buy we need politicians
money can’t buy.
REMEMBER: POLITICIANS, BUREAUCRATS AND DIAPERS SHOULD BE CHANGED OFTEN
AND FOR THE SAME REASON.
If you are a Democrat or Republican and are discussed with your parties presumptive nominee
maybe it’s time to send each party a message that they can’t ignore will understand . Vote for
independent candidates ! ! !
I know the American public must find it hard to believe that we are that stupid, but it must be so
because we keel electing Democrats & Republicans time & time again, maybe it is time for a real
change & elect Independent Candidates. Enough of this insanity !
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Albert Einstein
If we take away their money & power then we can take away their toys. Elect those who have your
interest in mind & not the self serving interest of the Democratic & Republican parties or that of
Corporate America. We don’t need the worst POLITICIANS money can buy we need politicians
money can’t buy.
REMEMBER: POLITICIANS, BUREAUCRATS AND DIAPERS SHOULD BE CHANGED OFTEN
AND FOR THE SAME REASON.
Not all Democrats are celebrating. Some of us are livid.
Note also that a system with highly restrictive rules that are only selectively enforced is a system engineered for persecution of political dissidents, whistleblowers, uncooperative underlings and the like.
In such a highly restrictive system, it’s likely that almost everyone is guilty of something, some infraction of the rules which can be uncovered by diligent investigation, and which can be used to justify their persecution or dismissal. On the other hand, politically powerful individuals can break the rules as they wish, knowing that they will never be investigated for their criminal behavior.
For example, Clinton’s approval of arms deals as Secretary of State likely involve a great deal more corruption and criminality than anything done with the email server (unless she was using the server to run such deals, i.e. her ‘deleted personal emails’). Kickbacks to the Clinton Foundation from foreign governments and corporations, speaking fees for Bill Clinton, all in exchange for expedited approval of large arms deals which, not incidentally, benefited Lockheed Martin, aka FBI Director James Comey’s previous employer?
No wonder those Clinton-era deals weren’t investigated by the FBI, or anyone else. Of course, equally gross abuses of power were seen throughout the Bush Administration, with all their
‘no-bid contracts’ for Iraq and Afghan reconstruction delivered to Halliburton, KBR, Bechtel and a host of other Bush-linked contractors; recall Cheney’s daughter running around and shaking down kickbacks from dictators in private one-on-one sessions?
Hillary Clinton took over where the Bush team left off, and started filling the coffers of the Clinton Foundation via the same kind of arrangments; but that’s not a story Republicans or Democrats want investigated, there are too many dirty players in that game, on both sides of the aisle.
Hillary Rodham Clinton has clearly achieved “Too Big To Fail” status, and needs to be broken up, post haste.
There is obviously a great difference between Hillary Clinton and everyone else. Hillary Clinton has been elected as the Democratic Party nominee with a resounding majority, which include a lot of BLM people who, lo and behold, voted for her instead of Bernie Sanders. We now have to perforce respect the inexplicable wishes of the BLM folks to maintain our stature as an anti-racial pillar of democracy. Everyone knew that Hillary Clinton is crooked and most unreliable, and yet they voted for her, which proves her supreme popularity and goodwill among the traditional Obama supporters. Therefore, the decision not to prosecute her is the correct one and is supported by the majority of citizens in our country. You can hardly see this kind of popular support for anyone else except perhaps Donald Trump.
Our all-weather friend -Mona- hasn’t yet started squatting on this Greenwald article, so while I don’t yet know her views, I am hoping for once she will agree with me and others of similar inclination, and tell Glenn his article does not make much sense.
are you implying that the rule of law doesn’t apply to those who are popular?
I think there’s lots of evidence that Hillary Clinton has the same general outlook on foreign policy as GW Bush, Dick Cheney and Condi Rice did; likewise her use of the State Department as a means of enhancing the wealth of the Clinton Foundation has close analogies in how Cheney delivered U.S. government contracts (USAID, etc.) via the State Department to Halliburton, etc.
Similarities between the Bushes, the Cheneys, and the Clintons are not hard to come by; they share the same group of functionaries and apparatchiks, what Stalin referred to as the all-important “middle cadres”, the ones who do all the heavy lifting.
For example, Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/
That’s what Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy represents; slavish devotion to the military-industrial complex and expanded American militarism in the service of the arms industry and international finance. Notice the dead silence on this from the U.S. corporate media, their blanket refusal to discuss the disastrous results of U.S. foreign policy since 9/11, or to note that Obama’s foreign policy is really little different than that of Bush & Cheney?
But she’s got a socially liberal domestic policy, so Democrats are flocking behind her like they did with Lyndon Johnson c. 1964, “because the alternative is Trump.” Three cheers for the Lesser Evil. . . ?
Like.
Not a big fan of lesser weevils. I’ll be voting my conscience this time around. Johnson/Weld – at least have 4 terms as Governors between them.
“Our all-weather friend -Mona- hasn’t yet started squatting on this Greenwald article,”
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Actually,no it wasn’t a resounding majority,in fact it was very close,and the only thing that put her over was unelected superdelegates,all in the tank for the most hated woman in this world.
At ICH? they had a video of Louis Farrakhan on HRC.Excellent take,until the end,where he implies she pulled the wool over Obombas (shining)eyes.
Some Berners I know had their hopes pinned on Hillary being indicted. Unfortunately, I knew, because of Hillary’s long tenure in public office and connections with all major governments in the world, this would never happen.
Maybe the best we can hope for is proving the massive fraud and voter suppression that took place during the Democratic primaries.
“Maybe the best we can hope for is proving the massive fraud and voter suppression that took place during the Democratic primaries.”
Unfortunately, there is no more of a chance of this happening than Killary being indicted. Not in this country.
But it wasn’t just “gross negligence”, which in an of itself is the worst offense when done by someone holding the highest offices of national security. The one thing Hillary had over Trump – her logic, experience – has just evaporated. Her gross negligence which jeopardizes national security reveals that she is just as much of a buffoon as he is!
This compilation of obvious federal offenses, comprised by investigative historian and author Eric Zeusse, appears to have been “wiped” from consideration:
“This is not an exclusive list, nor does it relate to charges that might possibly be made against Ms. Clinton on grounds other than the unquestionable and basic ground that she moved all of her State Department email operation to a private and non-secured computer outside the State Department, and then attempted to destroy the record of those emails. Here are the six criminal laws of that type, which, I here allege, she clearly broke:
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18 U.S. Code § 2232 — Destruction or removal of property to prevent seizure
(a) Destruction or Removal of Property To Prevent Seizure
Whoever, before, during, or after any search for or seizure of property by any person authorized to make such search or seizure, knowingly destroys, damages, wastes, disposes of, transfers, or otherwise takes any action, or knowingly attempts to destroy, damage, waste, dispose of, transfer, or otherwise take any action, for the purpose of preventing or impairing the Government’s lawful authority to take such property into its custody or control or to continue holding such property under its lawful custody and control, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(b) Impairment of In Rem Jurisdiction
Whoever, knowing that property is subject to the in rem jurisdiction of a United States court for purposes of civil forfeiture under Federal law, knowingly and without authority from that court, destroys, damages, wastes, disposes of, transfers, or otherwise takes any action, or knowingly attempts to destroy, damage, waste, dispose of, transfer, or otherwise take any action, for the purpose of impairing or defeating the court’s continuing in rem jurisdiction over the property, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
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18 U.S. Code § 1512 — Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
(c) Whoever corruptly
(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or
(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
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18 U.S. Code § 1519 — Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy
Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 — Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
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18 U.S. Code § 641 — Public money, property or records
Whoever embezzles, steals, purloins, or knowingly converts to his use, or the use of another, or without authority, sells, conveys or disposes of any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof, or any property made or being made under contract for the United States or any department or agency thereof, …
Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years or both. …
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18 U.S. Code § 793 — Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information …
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer —
Shall be fined not more than $10, 000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy, shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.
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If we are a nation “of laws, not of men” (as that old basic description of democracy phrased it), then Ms. Clinton will be prosecuted, at least through the grand jury stage, on (at least) those grounds. The decision regarding her innocence or guilt will be made by jurors, not by the broader public — and also not by the nation’s Executive: the President and his appointed Administration. That is what it means for a government to be a functioning democracy. Any government which violates this principle — that it is “of laws, not of men [including women]” — is not functioning as a democracy: it’s something else.
In addition to these criminal laws, there are federal regulations also against these matters, but violations merely of federal regulations (such as these) are far less serious than are actions that violate also federal criminal laws (such as the six that are listed above).”
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Her logic has been exposed as shite,and her experience is all shite too.Really.
Ah,buffoon.Yes,Trump is a narcissist,a self promoter,and has an ego the size of the WTC,but these are all prerequisites for effective POTUSs.
How could he be a buffoon,when all he says is correct regarding our nation,its future and our present age of decline?
Is it the way he connects with his audience,or is it the way he does it,by using normal American language and culture?
He is more in tune with the American people than any candidate since I don’t know when,and is hardly a buffoon.
She is though,a career screwup,whose connection with her base is wooden and forced.A true troll in woman form.
Agree with your article .
however all I can do as a democrat is write in my vote
She is not my democratic choice for the WH
???Write in someone else,or be a lemming?
Besides the fact that Comey just laid out a blueprint for charging her with gross negligence which obviously requires no intent I want to know why, given her actions, that she shouldn’t (not won’t) be barred from accessing or handling confidential information in the future. If she is allowed to become president it is like saying, “well you really messed up last time with the confidential files, you broke policy, and you probably put the country at risk but here is access to everything”.
@GlennGreenwald
I would love to hear your thoughts on why a Republican Congress would basically give a ‘pass’ on this, especially given the fact that they impeached her husband for having a consensual affair.
Affair = Impeachment
Mishandling classified documents = virtual silence
The Republican Congress did not go after Bill Clinton for a extramarital blowjob. The case was supposed to be about Whitewater and the death of Vince Foster, it was Bill’s buddy and pal Ken Starr that diverged the investigation into a case about infidelity.
The Republicans attacked Clinton because he kept stealing their crappy ideas.
They should have been grateful for the Crime bill, Hillarycare (eventually ACA) welfare reform, DOMA, NAFTA, and repealing Glass-Steagall.
Instead, they created a rat-out-Clinton industry financed by rightwing billionaires and sold as righteousness, piety and cultural conformity.
We saw Starr’s piety and righteousness on display before he was removed from Baylor for neglecting the welfare of Baylor students.
As Edward Snowden said:
“Break classification rules for the public’s benefit and you could be exiled. Do it for personal benefit and you could be President.”
It wasn’t the fact that Bill had an affair that got him in trouble, it was that he lied about it under oath.
In the best of all possible space-times, we could treat the Clintons in a temporally symmetric manner; go for a retroactive impeachment for him, and a proactive impeachment for her.
“perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton”
“Democrats” have absolutely no interest in providing leniency or restraint for anything, to anyone who isn’t Hillary Clinton. “Democrat” and “legal scholar” Obama (and he is, after all, God’s anointed representative on earth) summarily found Chelsea Manning guilty, before trial, see e.g.
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/04/25/obama-declares-manning-guilty-trial
and had government agents and agencies torture Manning during the appalling prolonged pre-trial “holding period”, and conceivably afterward as well. From the vantage point on high, the little people never fail to benefit from an application of the whip.
The US District Court for the District of Columbia ruled today against the OSTP, an office in the Executive Office of the President, on the issue of official records stored on a private server.
“Competitive Enterprise Institute appeals from a judgment of the district court dismissing its Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) action against the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP). Appellant contends that the district court improperly ruled that documents which might otherwise be government records for FOIA purposes need not be searched for or turned over to the requestor because the head of the defendant agency maintained the putative records on a private email account in his name at a site other than the government email site which the agency had searched. Because we agree with plaintiff-appellant that an agency cannot shield its records from search or disclosure under FOIA by the expedient of storing them in a private email account controlled by the agency head, we reverse the dismissal and remand the case for further proceedings.”
I’d agree with the above, unless the “lying” took place under oath. I’d be really interested in seeing the Q & A between the FBI and Ms. Clinton and her aids who were deposed for two reasons: a) whether the FBI took its obligations seriously to depose her properly to make sure she wasn’t “lying”, and b) what her answers were by comparison to public statements she made (which go to her credibility on the entire issue).
In any event, none of that detracts from Glenn’s primary point–there is a multi-tiered “system of (in)justice at work in America” (always has been) and I’d argue it is one of the primary reasons that vast majorities of citizens in Western nations (particularly say America and England) have profoundly low opinions of the legitimacy of their elected governments and/or the credibility of any particular elected official. And when that mistrust and lack of legitimacy hits critical mass, then we better watch out, because that’s when shit really hits the fan.
“Lying” is quite enough for a 5-year federal felony, as long as it’s to a federal agency in a matter within that agency’s jurisdiction. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1001. No oath needed.
> I do think there was malignant intent
> In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits, but it was more negligent and careless than malicious and deliberate
are those words not synonymous? and even if it was only “gross negligence” why wouldn’t we want the letter of the law to be enforced in clinton’s case as it was in the cases of others less prominent?
> But if there is to be anything positive that can come from this lowly affair, perhaps Democrats might start demanding the same reasonable leniency and prosecutorial restraint for everyone else who isn’t Hillary Clinton.
oh. yeah perhaps that will happen. somehow i failed to imagine that. again “self-critique in elite circles is more vital than anything”
My guess is that Greenwald is distinguishing between a formal legal term “malicious intent” and an adjective which he chooses to employ, “malignant”, whose application here, I whole-heartedly agree with. Indeed her intentions are malignant, undermining government accountability to the people, and hiding her vile and criminal actions from the public. Attempting to protect her vile machinations, and those of her execrable State Department, from mere, useless peons.
Even the entirely-too-abrasive-to-the-tender-nether-extremities New York Times, in a once in a lifetime fit of honesty, and this to say:
“The State Department had not searched the email account of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton because she had maintained a private account, which shielded it from such searches, department officials acknowledged on Tuesday.”
and
“Mrs. Clinton’s aides on Tuesday sought to play down the significance of her exclusive use of a personal email account for State Department business. But an examination of records requests sent to the department reveals how the practice protected (!!!!) a significant amount of her correspondence from the eyes of investigators and the public.”
(!!!! added by me)
when supposedly,
“Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency’s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.”
from:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/us/politics/using-private-email-hillary-clinton-thwarted-record-requests.html?_r=0
Nothing like “protecting” the workings of a government agency and official, from the constituency on whose “behalf” they are supposed to be working. Selling off the national patrimony and ginning up murderous eternal war for empire, are projects too important for the myopic eyes and unformed minds of the little people.
> Nothing like “protecting” the workings of a government agency and official, from the constituency on whose “behalf” they are supposed to be working.
in mr. greenwald’s opinion that does not constitute “substantial intended harm”
“Still, charging someone with a felony . . . should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
The Wapo editorial board(Zion)said shes fit to be POTUS.
I hope Trump takes away their license to spew.
For Comey, a Republican, to charge HRC now at the tenth hour in a campaign, knowing about the rouge server for two years, would be a real sand bagging job. His name would go down with the likes of Ken Starr and Johnny Cockroach.
Rouge server? Well, Clinton sure does ‘make-up’ stuff…
indeed, the entire campaign revolves about how best to apply staggering amounts of lipstick to a thoroughly putrid head of pork.
You’ve never been approached at a cosmetics counter by someone who says “I’ll be your rouge server this afternoon.”?
hillary is terrible, the worst ever. if that’s the premise does it mean we should vote gary johnson? bernie sanders? ralph nader? donald? greens or greenpeace? seriously, what’s the point of this hit piece other than to add to the right’s propaganda campaign to undermine the government in order for them to then seize the government?
no criminal charges.
The point of the article is to highlight the double-standards of the corrupt establishment.
hillary clinton is a right winger!
If you think Glenn Greenwald did this to aid the far-right (ie, the Republicans; neoliberal Democrats like Hillary and Obama are center/center-right), you obviously know nothing about his journalistic career. Glenn is about the closest we have to a modern day Edward R. Murrow; he challenges corruption for the sake of the public as a whole. He goes after BOTH ruling parties.
And quite frankly yes, we should vote for the Green Party’s Jill Stein. Unless you want to vote for Hillary and her history of corrupt plutocracy and warmongering, or Trump and his hatred.
Trumps hatred of whom?
Has he said he hates a particular group?
Maybe he just likes America more than foreigners.
Hatred seems the by word of zionists.
Gary Johnson who called Trump an antisemite?
I bet it got him one more vote.
The FBI’s statement clearly states facts that prove that Hillary did in fact violate 793(f) and is subject to prosecution and up to ten years in jail for each mishandled classified email.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
To admit the facts and then refuse to apply the law is the Establishment spitting in the face of the American people.
It doesn’t matter whether Hillary acted with intent or not, Title 18 U.S.C. 793 (f) has no intent (mens rea) requirement, the express standard for violation is “gross negligence.” Comey chacterized Clinton’s conduct as “extremely careless,” the very definition of gross negligence.
(I’m surprised at Glenn, he seems to have missed this.)
I, too, was quite surprised. Comey spent all that time laying out a clear case for gross negligence, and proceeded to not recommend charges; labeling any dissenting prosecutorial opinion ‘unreasonable’.
Glenn glossed right over that.
@Dam Stewart, @John
greenwald didn’t miss or gloss over anything. he addressed comey’s “highly incriminating findings” head on. and he agreed with comey’s decision not to prosecute
“In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits, but it was more negligent and careless than malicious and deliberate.”
“Still, charging someone with a felony requires more than lying or unethical motives; it should require a clear intent to break the law along with substantial intended harm, none of which is sufficiently present here.”
I think you’re mistaken. I’m suggesting that Glenn’s agreement with Comey’s recommendation for non-indictment could only make Orwellian sense.
“[…] more negligent and careless than malicious and deliberate” is an irrelevant distinction. As was pointed out, ‘malicious and deliberate’ intent is not required for breach of Title 18 U.S.C. 793 section (f).
By citing:
“In other words, there is evidence that she did exactly what the criminal law prohibits, but it was more negligent and careless than malicious and deliberate,” you’re simultaneously defending non-indictment while proving that indictment should proceed.
Glenn glossed over the fact that gross negligence is all that’s required to charge her.
“To admit the facts and then refuse to apply the law is the Establishment spitting in the face of the American people.”
par for the course for US elites for at least a century. They needed a spittoon, so they bought the US populace and stood it in a corner, where it belongs.
It is obvious that both the FBI and the CIA, etc, are exceeding their legal writ by their current ” judgement on Mrs H Clinton’s use of her own private email system in breach of her own department’s standing orders, and further her proven falsehoods to excuse her behaviour thereof “.
Such a disgraceful affair should surely lead to the dismissal of Comey and others as an example of political corruption, or worse !
Excellent points, Glenn. The whole spectacle of classification and the vagaries thereof, boggle my mind, 50 years after being involved in intelligence work. Classification is in, many instances, an art rather than a science. I saw documents marked Top Secret that one would think should have been marked Confidential, and vice-versa.
Your point about the imortance of the individual involved is right on. I remember a microsm of that from my days at Camp King. Documents Secret and above have sign-off sheets with carbons for each time they change hands. We had a Secret document which was lost in the Operations Building in 1966. Although there was absolute proof that it had been signed off by a Spec4 to a Major, guess who they tried to hang? After an all-out search, the document was not found, which held up the E-4’s transfer to Vietnam. They finally wrote it up that it must have been accidentally included in the Thursday burn pile. Unless you have served in the military, you truly haven’t seen how much and how fast shit rolls down hill.
Really good article.
Why exactly isn’t creating a private server to hide and deny FOI requests in the category of “efforts to obstruct justice”? And how is recklessness not equivalent to gross negligence? We have Comey playing semantic games akin to debating what the definition of “is” is.
No wonder he wouldn’t take questions.
One issue that hasn’t been properly addressed concerns the Open Records Act of 1976. Hillary Clinton hid her e-mails and electronic work related efforts in clear violation of the accountability standards by which she was bound under the Open Records Act. This law was blatantly and systematically violated precedent to the issue of whether the supposed content was classified or benign, the discussion of which served to dodge this fundamental issue. A fifth grader gets this, but not James Comey.
Who is this guy, James Comey? Oh, right, he’s the high and mighty crusader who made such a huge issue of Martha Stewart’s dishonesty towards the FBI and sent her to jail for crimes that pale by comparison to Hillary Clinton’s transgressions.
Even if one views our presidential choices as a worst case scenario of choosing the lessor of two evils, then one’s decision should be academic at this point. My god, just think of what Hillary Clinton will fast-track out of the sewer into top level positions throughout our government, in droves. One James Comey in American history is enough, just as one Benedict Arnold was enough.
The US District Court for the District of Columbia ruled today against the OSTP (an office in the Executive Office of the President) on the issue of FOIA access to public records stored on a private server.
“Competitive Enterprise Institute appeals from a judgment of the district court dismissing its Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) action against the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP). Appellant contends that the district court improperly ruled that documents which might otherwise be government records for FOIA purposes need not be searched for or turned over to the requestor because the head of the defendant agency maintained the putative records on a private email account in his name at a site other than the government email site which the agency had searched. Because we agree with plaintiff-appellant that an agency cannot shield its records from search or disclosure under FOIA by the expedient of storing them in a private email account controlled by the agency head, we reverse the dismissal and remand the case for further proceedings.”
Well, even if Comey/Lynch/Obama and the DNC want to let Hillary Rodham Clinton skate, the American People will have their say as to whether or not to indict and convict her on November 8th.
We have four months to make that happen. Not sure how or who is best to support to bring her to her knees but I am one American who is ready to get out and work to make that happen.
I notice how the MSM is doing many interviews with Gary Johnson and are ignoring Jill Stein completely. His policies are in alignment with Trump which means votes will be taken from Trump and to Johnson which will help Clinton.
Votes to Jill Stein will hurt Clinton and obviously voting for Trump is a direct political slap in her face.
So the question is, do we want to give her a direct slap by voting for the evil Trump or just abandon the DNC and go en masse to Stein?
I guess boycotting the whole ugly fiasco is also an option.
At this point , I don’t know one person who supports Clinton.
Johnson stepped on the BS train with his Trump anti semite statement.
F8ck him.
I think all of this is correct, but I also think the actual existence of a “vast, right-wing conspiracy” has in the long run been very protective for the Clintons. They have some truly unhinged opponents (she does especially) and there is something grotesque about making common cause with them.
Here, even if it does not rise to the level of criminality, intentionally blocking public oversight (and intentionally obscuring the documentary record — even if one were thinking only in terms of archives for future historians to peruse) is so at odds with the spirit that is supposed to animate public service that it is indefensible.
But the right wing loonies end up being the the Clintons’ best friends in these circumstances. Because they’d happily execute HRC for squinting, they undermine the case for any serious charges ever sticking against her in the mind of much of the public. It’s not really Teflon, it’s something like mud-slinging-overload.
I still want to know if there were any “work related emails” in the 30,000 she and her team decided to delete.
If Comey won’t tell us (because my understanding is that the FBI discovered them) then maybe Putin or Wikileaks will release them?
Drink more vaginal juice.
The rethugs love HRC.McCains drinking buddy.The American people hate them both,along with demoncrats.
So, it wasn’t intentional or wilful….So a top US official just…accidentally? stores secret documents in their homemade email servers. That is some accident. And for the head of the state dept to not know the regulations?
I guess I find it nonsensical that someone could say there was a lack of intention or will.
And then there is the “vast quantities” part of Comey’s statement. The FBI were not able to recover all the hidden emails, but they did recover tens of thousands of them. Tens of thousands of documents isn’t “vast quantities”? Really?
So, …it was…a “mistake”, like the US attack on Iraq?
And this comes on the heels of the husband of the suspect meeting secretly with the attorney general….just before the AG claims she will accept the FBI’s decision…just before the FBI bizarrely announces that nobody will be held accountable…. despite the fact that Clinton lied about how many handsets she uses, lied about not transmitting documents marked secret, lied about the security of her computers…..
Anyway, a ruling class that legalizes torture by high officials, isn’t going to hold themselves accountable for much of anything, are they?
She did this purposely to keep her correspondence and contacts from government oversight.
How that can be called not intentional doesn’t compute.
Sometimes even good writers fall for bad people.
Glenn,
I didn’t realize that motive and intent were so central to a prosecution. Shouldn’t negligence be prosecutable? From everything I’ve read about here behavior regarding the emails, she put her own convenience over national security, which is unbelievable to me. Bernie Sanders was correct. She’s totally unqualified to be president.
“Gross Negligence” is also prosecutable under the Espionage Act.
Glenn (and other Intercept attorneys),
Wasn’t there even a misdemeanor Comey could charge her with in all of this??
Good read
Agree. The most talented composer, directing a perfect performance of Flight of the Bumblebee, using only amateur musicians couldn’t have hoped for a better sequence of results.
The overload of cynicism is leaking down and infusing itself
into the beliefs about and acceptance of dubious
social norms in a world owned by the powerful and avaricious.
The new “normal” is a reinforcing of predatory deviance.
There is absolutely NO way this e-mail scheme was accidentally
created and implemented.
It had to be deliberately done, but we are told that it cannot
be seen as deliberately done.
This brainwashing may be the real purpose of the whole
sneeringly cynical predatory display.
We are being told that this is one of the privileges
of the uber-corrupt and if we would like some of the same power
we must be willing to
arrogantly lie, obfuscate, and prey upon those
we see as vulnerable.
This is the message from the mansion on the hill.
This is what Trump and Clinton – and their supporters – represent.
The rule of law and the notion of equal justice
are a sadistic joke in the corporate owned faking U$A.
Very poorly written.
I understand. Loud and clear.
stunningly blatant, ain’t it…?
Why not? They fear no reprisal, either from the MSN, other politicians or the electorate.
Outrageous. Comey told everybody that the elite get to decide who must adhere to the law and who doesn’t have to. He should have to answer to that.
Bernie could keep Trump from the white house…in fact, only Bernie could. Clinton for all the trouble she has caused and still intends to cause us can’t beat Trump, which is why only the oligarchs who bought her want her. The rest of us do not, and won’t be voting for her.
Billionaire funded Glenn Greenwald is once again bald-faced lying about the facts of this case, conflating the prosecution of leakers by the Obama administration with the right witch hunt that Trey Gowdy and Mr. Greenwald relish in. Greenwald once again completely disregards the law in order to give Hillary Clinton special treatment all the while complaining that Hillary is getting special treatment under the law. Mr. Greenwald should know better, but as with the Trump, Trey Gowdy crowd, a complete disregard of the facts of the case mean absolutely nothing. Nobody but a billionaire funded elitist hypocrite would publish the above tripe.
I’m sure you’re intention was to sound informed by facts but your claims do the opposite.
Where in the world did you hear that Glenn Greenwald is a billionaire funded journalist? He’s also absolutely not a Donald Trump supporter and far different from Trey Gowdy. Please cite all relevant sources the next time you make such claims.
” a complete disregard of the facts of the case mean absolutely nothing. ”
Please be more specific. Are you saying that she didn’t have a server? That she didn’t have top secret documents on her (probably insecure) server? That she didn’t lie about it to the public? Or are there some other facts that I am unaware of. I agree that there have been plenty of witch hunts surrounding the Clintons, but that doesn’t mean every charge against them is off base.
what a word salad that was
Jimmy: Lots of bloviating, as usual, but you didn’t refute one fact in Glenn’s article. Care to try again?
“Politics aside, it is difficult to find prior cases where the unwise handling of classified information led to a federal indictment. For the last 20 years, the federal statutes have been used when there were intentional unauthorized disclosures. The Department of Justice appears to have gone after ‘leakers,’ but not bunglers.”
So where are the cases, Bozo? Or are you going to tow the Trey Gowdy, Tea Bagger, Trumpanzee line? Spend three seconds looking into this and you can see that the Great Glenn It’s not okay to take money from Billionaires unless it applies to me Greenwald is full of it. There never was a case, NEVER, even the bull by the Comy-the Pug neglecting to admit that everyone in every cabinet position was handling classified information “wrecklessly” if you apply his standards.
BUNGLERS ARE DIFFERENT FROM LEAKERS or are you that dumb. Glenn is a very poor, very biased attorney, how is it he would bring charges? Where exactly would he come up with intentionality? Huh? What… drool… drool… but that’s okay, as long as he towing the Trey Gowdy-Trumpanzee line, right?
Just for the record, there is no doubt whatsoever, that your man Trump is a child rapist. That story is just starting to get legs. Just ask his BFF Epstein, the convicted sex offender.
Ah, Jimmy, you never fail to fuck things up. I have never said one positive thing about Trump on this site. For you to call what Clinton did to be “bungling”, which connotes innocent mistakes, is generous, indeed. You don’t think she knew what she was doing every step of the way? Really?
Would this be the same Epstein who Billy frequently traveled with?
don’t encourage the waste of precious electrons
The Internet is here, and people can read all about who gets “special treatment.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/14/hero-marine-nailed-for-sending-classified-report-from-personal-email.html
@ Jimmy
What in the holy fuck are you babbling about?
Trump was accused at some web site for raping a 13? year old with Jeffrey Epstein back in the 90s?.
That was a couple of weeks ago,and has shown no legs,at least not yet.
Zion never sleeps.
Either you suck at snark, or you are a complete moron…
Everything in your comment was either: false, irrelevant, or inscrutable. All of it was shrilly stupid.
The person in charge in FBI is a REPUBLICAN and was known to be very tough. He only acted lawfully.
The adoration for Comey from both DIMS and GOPers is nauseating. Can we just talk about how TALL he is?? SWOON!!
This completely misses the point. Paul Ryan (or some other prominent Republican) would have received the same favorable treatment as Hillary. This country has one standard of justice for the the powerful or super rich and another for “ordinary” people. Party labels are not relevant to the double standard. After all, the Democrats and the Republicans are simply two, barely distinguishable, branches of the same gang of thugs.
He acted very conveniently in favor of the establishment – and a demonstrably shady dealer (Clinton) – which is mighty suspicious. Also, Comey is an Obama appointee. Political party don’t mean diddly up there in the rarefied air of the elite’s upper echelons.
Like… is this REALLY a shock to anyone ?? Really ?? …
She WILL be crowned, regardless of any crimes committed, or maybe because of her crimes. The world looks on in dismay at a corrupt regime extending its poison tenticles into every part of life as we know it…. depressing.
btw… happy “independence” day….
Everyday Democrats are celebrating because the corrupted establishment neglected to prosecute one of its upper-echelon members. (“She’s a careless twit, but she won’t be charged! Careless twit for president!”) How creepy is that?
The media spin is obviously that if you disagree with this FBI decision you are merely a Trump or Bernie supporter who can’t land a punch. The media doesn’t want people wondering about the elite’s system itself being corrupt, cynically using the two parties only to divide and rule.
Greenwald points out that disagreement with this conclusion should come because this is an unequal application of the law which favors the bipartisan elite and their tools. Someone has to keep the eye on the ball, and Greenwald consistently does just that.
I agree completely. If you think Clinton should be held to the same standard you are either on a right wing witch hunt, a bitter Sanders supporter, or a sexist.
If a nation applies its laws in several differing unjust modes, what sort of political system does it have: Democratic Republic, Dictatorial Junta, Totalitarian Police State, or something else?
Political Party and personal loyalty are more revered in DC over one’s duty to the Constitution.
This is a case in point of how too much factionalism (the Elites) have too much influence and the voters voice is actually not being heard through their representative.
Historically, there would be calls for an independent prosecutor to review as Clinton is part of the current administration.
Where are those voices now in our Congress?
They are conveniently silent. Their silence is proof that the two party system exists in name only. It’s defunct.
Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) and Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) have both called for an independent investigation today.
And John Cornyn called for a special prosecutor back in September of 2015:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article35368191.html
Thanks. But a whisper in what has historically been a battlecry for partisanship.
I would love to hear Glenn’s thoughts on why a Republican Congress would basically give a ‘pass’ on this, especially given the fact that they impeached her husband for having a consensual affair.
Affair = Impeachment
Mishandling classified documents = virtual silence
What’s changed since 2000? The willingness of both parties to grab more power and not throw stones at each other while doing it.
Members of Congress in BOTH parties support Netanyahu’s mowing of the Gazan grass when ever he feels like it! Senate votes 100-0!!!
And we have the Republicans cheering Obama on with the TPP and the DNC platform committee refusing to come out against the TPP even though Hillary Clinton has declared she is against it (after she referred to it as “the gold standard” of trade deals).
They are clearly all in cahoots.
All roads of world misery today emanate from Zion.
And yes,they are all in cahoots as fellow bribees.
I hear what you’re saying.
Mishandling classified documents = virtual silence
My guess is that they don’t want anyone examining how they handle their own communications. As for,
Affair = Impeachment
that speaks to the hubris and hypocrisy that seem to be part and parcel to accumulated power. It is quite remarkable – or maybe not, considering the piece at the top – how few of these people think they will ever be held to account. For anything.
Milton Witmellow makes the following observation further up the thread, to which I agree.
He states, “They [Republicans] should have been grateful for the Crime bill, Hillarycare (eventually ACA) welfare reform, DOMA, NAFTA, and repealing Glass-Steagall.”
I don’ think it was hubris. It’s a HUGE step to impeach a sitting president. Personally, I’ve often felt that B. Clnton’s biggest sin was to actually create surplus, instead of deficit spending.
I contend that the the Elites would like nothing better than to dissolve government and you can’t do that by having surplus.
But having deficits does two things for the Elites. 1) It gives them cash for their corporations in the way of Gov’t spending and 2) if gives you cover to cut Social Security.
More to the point on hurting the Elites, was the tax brackets BC created that gave the surpluses. I think the Elites (ie banks and corporate execs) wanted him out of the office for this betrayal.
Previously the top individual tax rate of 31% applied to all income over $51,900. The Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 created a new bracket of 36% for income above $115,000, and 39.6% for income above $250,000.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
As for Hillary, there is no ‘betrayal’ which is why we also see so many prosecutions for whistleblowers. In DC, loyalty to your superior is what counts, not your belief in the Constitution. Hence, she’s not to be touched.
because Hillary is exactly what the Republican establishment has always wanted. A “nontraditional” (read woman) candidate, who is a vicious and ferocious hawk, whose only ambition is to serve plutocracy and empire, and her own insatiable thirst for power and money. Admired by Cheney and Kissinger, what the f$%k more could they want?
The ones who couldn’t give a rat’s ass about identity or gender politics, unless it affects their practice of power or accumulation of lucre, which it invariably does not. The ones who all happily jumped on the “gay rights” bandwagon when they could tar Putin with the anti-gay brush, and those like John Roberts, who happily voted for Obamacare, knowing it would insure extraordinary profits for his clients, in perpetuity, and guarantee denial of actual healthcare for as long as it occupied the niche. The “pragmatic” ones. Those who use hot button “social” issues to rouse an uninformed, propagandized, angry portion of the populace, at strategic points in time, but couldn’t care less about throwing stripped bones to “rights groups” as long as the bones don’t clog up the important machinery. Cheney probably doesn’t really personally care about abortion one way or the other, unless it can be of use to him. Hillary was against gay marriage, until it made sense for her to be for it…. Though on a cursory level, Black Lives Matter might be thought also to merely constitute an “identity rights” issue, and thus perhaps fall in the same category as those just mentioned, there is a difference. After all, one wouldn’t want one’s ability to visit repression on any parties that needed repressing, to be circumscribed in any way. It’s a matter of precedent. If one doesn’t continue to have relatively large portions of the populace on which to exercise the repressive muscle, the muscle atrophies. One loses precedent, and a tool in the toolbox. Of course, it helps to have a historically racist base upon which to build the more new fangled and ecumenical repressive tools. For instance, domestically, austerity was “tuned up” for a hundred and change years, on e.g., populations of color, until it was deemed ready for use on the general public…
A *Democratic* President decided that we should “look forward and not back” about torture, thus making the *Republican* torture-program architects free from prosecution (and rendering torture a ‘policy-choice’ to be potentially reinstated if a future president should wish it). This has nothing to do with Party. The elite ultimately owns both parties. It’s about the establishment protecting its own higher-up members from prosecution, as they always do.
And Hillary has no doubt been looking forward to future applications of turturesince she joined Obama’s state department, if not decades before. We came, we saw, we ripped their fingernails out. Foreign policy. Its whats for dinner.
And Hillary has been no doubt looking forward towards applying torture in the future, since she joined Obama’s State Department, if not for decades before, with the same passionate vindictiveness that would no doubt arouse all manner of envy in her witch-burning forebears. We came, we saw, we ripped their fingernails out. Foreign policy. Its what’s for dinner
Wait a minute! Hillary was *increasing* her secrecy by using a private email server. She was hiding her scheming from the State Department.
yes.
the first exposure of private email use for official business i know of occurred when sarah palin did so as governor of alaska. it was an obvious ploy designed to conceal corrupt dealings from scrutiny.
although it was a violation of law, she suffered no consequences.
Sharing such a deep bond, perhaps Hillary ought to ask Palin to be her running mate.
They agree on virtually everything else as well. And Palin might add some much needed gravitas and intellectual depth to the Clinton campaign.
She wanted the moose,polar bears and musk oxen in the dark?
sheesh.Sarah Palin?
Why do you feel she should not be charged Glenn? Your article does what Comey’s press release did, damned Clinton, then backed up. Yours is not quite structured the same but the only legal balance to her not being charged is forgiving all those others who were, which will never happen. She should have been charged because she willfully committed these acts.
Hillary and her people lied to the public about every aspect of this case.
And yet they haven’t been prosecuted for lying to the FBI.
Were they telling the FBI something different to what they were telling us all along?
Isn’t lying to the FBI a felony?
Yes. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1001.
Here here! They clearly said the protection of classified information isn’t what matters. Instead, what matters is who is doing it and for what reason. Ugly application of the law.
I found the public spectacle a bit disturbing. Hillary Clinton is not being charged with any crimes, yet the investigators, rather than saying so without further comment, felt it necessary to run through a list of her alleged misconduct. That seems pretty unusual, and I would say unfair to her.
That’s not to disagree with the gist of the article, the Obama administration’s pursuit of whistleblowers have been especially pernicious, but if it becomes standard practice for the FBI to go through reasons they could have indicted every time they announce the closure of an investigation… god knows how horribly that could be abused. I get the exceptional circumstances here, but I fear the precedent it could set.
He had to do it otherwise the details would have leaked from upset investigators and/or sparked resignations within the FBI and made the accusations of corruption much more damning.
“…lied about it repeatedly to the public. But she won’t be prosecuted or imprisoned for any of that,”
Lying to the public is in no way a crime so it shouldn’t be included as something that could/should have gotten her in legal trouble. It is useful information for the public to know before voting so we shall see rather soon if this turns off anyone who was planning to vote for her.
Well one can assume she made those same lies, at least originally, in response to all the official inquiries that were made. Unless she from the start was telling the public one thing and telling the DOJ and FBI that she did in fact send these classified things etc. then she was in fact lying to them and that IS a crime
She lied to the public, yes, but she also lied under oath. She made these same statements under oath to the Benghazi Committee.
Whatever you may think of that investigation, she did indeed lie.
Kudos, Intercept, for the timely report on outrageous news. Thank you, Glenn Greenwald and each brave and honorable journalist and good-government hostage who is not a pay-to-play infotainer. “A lie is not a side to a story.”
Not to mention the habitual persecution of Chinese Americans by the FBI and DOJ for violation of the espionage act based on zero evidence:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0504-koo-olmos-espionage-asian-american-20160504-story.html#ifrndnloc
Its another sign of “the dual state” as described by Ernst Frankel.
Totalitarian states are always dual states where the powerful (the perogative state) are not accountable to laws and rule by their arbitary whims.
Whereas the masses (the normative state) are powerless to resist the draconian laws of the perogative state.
Its happened all over the world in many countries and his is just another example.
Clinton will never be held accountable for any of her illegal actions.
Glenn, any comment on this tweet from Dan Froomkin?
Thanks for writing about this.
@bmaz says it is not done. NOT DONE.
Yeah, saw that too. All his comments and retweets on this have been very enlightening:
https://twitter.com/bmaz
I’m inclined to think that Comey’s public airing of this is his way of protesting – short of resigning, which would be a better alternative, imho – a forced conclusion. He put the thinnest layer of shellac he possibly could on a very ugly piece of work.
I think you’re looking for a ray of light on a very dark day. Comey was not ‘protesting'; he’s completely sacrificed his integrity. Maybe Assange was right and he’s extracted some concessions.
Comey’s not protesting; he’s providing cover for the AG.
Froomkin also tweeted:
Dan Froomkin [email protected] 4h4 hours ago
Premature sigh of relief from the Clinton-can-do-no-wrong camp, if you ask me.
If that is so, I think seppuku would be a more effective form of protest for him.
“The fact that Clinton is who she is undoubtedly what caused the FBI to accord her the massive benefit of the doubt when assessing her motives.”
I don’t think the FBI gave Clinton the benefit of the doubt about her motives. That simply did not enter the equation. These people, as Glenn normally will explain extremely clearly, do not concern themselves with motives. As in the case of the Espionage Act railroadings, (sorry, trials), they refuse to consider such inconvenient issues. She is an insider, so end of story. Thomas Drake, Chelsea Manning, et al. – you are not. Tough luck.
“as Glenn normally will explain extremely clearly”
Glenn’s really botched this one.
Just like the “one time” Supremes decision on Bush v Gore. Yet we all just keep on . . .
Intentionally putting her mail server in the basement and intentionally hitting the send button with emails containing classified material is viewed as unintentional. Gosh that just doesn’t seem to add up and equal justice. Hope the Justice Department is better at math than the FBI!
Oooh, I’ve always wanted a president who’s extremely careless and grossly negligent!, said no voter EVER.
Comey noted in his statement: “To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences.”
Comey basically said if your name’s not Clinton we will prosecute you for the same activity….
Comey noted in the very next sentence of his statement – “To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions.”
Not criminal prosecution; so completely the opposite of your conclusion.
You are right so her security clearance should be revoked for life. A president without security clearance!
So we can expect administrative sanctions to be issued any day now? I won’t hold my breath.
The point is that person A gets off scott free, while every single other person in the country would face dire consequences (whether that’s criminal prosecution, firing/resignation from govt work, etc.).
“Comey noted in the very next sentence of his statement – ‘To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions.’ ”
Check the case of Bryan H. Nishimura. Fined, put on probation and permanently lost his security clearance. Or to be more succinct, HE’LL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.
“The investigation did not reveal evidence that Nishimura intended to distribute classified information to unauthorized personnel.”
https://www.fbi.gov/sacramento/press-releases/2015/folsom-naval-reservist-is-sentenced-after-pleading-guilty-to-unauthorized-removal-and-retention-of-classified-materials
But Hillary is above all that.
Where did I use the word “criminal prosecutions?” Oh that’s right. You just pretended like I used the word “criminal” so you could score points.
I’m confused. What did you think “prosecute” means if not “charge with crimes”?
When you wrote “we will prosecute you”, what exactly were you trying to imply then?
yep. He did that thing.
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The FBIs announcement today was simply icing on the cake for the farce that this presidential election has turned out to be. Frontrunner is too rich, too powerful and too connected to be punished. A scary day for democracy.