In an interview with the New York Times on Wednesday, after suggesting that he might not defend another member of the NATO alliance in the event of a Russian attack, Donald Trump was asked if he was paying close attention to what was happening in Turkey following the failed coup attempt last week.
Trump replied that he had been impressed by the efforts of the Turkish people, who took to the streets to prevent the military from seizing power — but he did so in a way that demonstrated his ignorance about a central facet of what took place last Friday night.
“They came out on the streets,” Trump said, according to the transcript, “and the army types didn’t want to drive over them like they did in Tiananmen Square when they sort of drived them over, and that was the end of that. Right? People said, ‘I’m not going to drive over people.’”
In this brief comment, Trump managed to be completely wrong about both what took place in Turkey last week and the backstory to an iconic image from the 1989 protests in China.
In fact, while many reports from Turkey featured images of protesters standing in front of tanks — evoking the heroism of the anonymous “tank man” who tried to stop the military assault on Tiananmen Square three decades ago — there was also graphic visual evidence that tanks in some places ran down protesters and killed them.
Turkey's Tank Man. pic.twitter.com/fAt5onB2qP
— Keyan Zhang (@keyanzhang) July 16, 2016
Erdogan's office sent out video of moment tank rolls over cars on Istanbul bridge during #TurkeyCoup (via @tufeyli_)pic.twitter.com/pdjntMHIqB
— Jon Williams (@WilliamsJon) July 17, 2016
Some of the deeply distressing video of protesters being crushed by tanks is nearly unwatchable, but such graphic images of civilians being run over or torn apart were widely shared on social networks in Turkey and helped fuel anger at the soldiers who carried out these atrocities.
Tank insanlar? ezdi TEM'de #DarbeyeHay?r pic.twitter.com/q9SjPjHkaK
— Halil ?brahim Acar (@AcarHalilacar) July 15, 2016
Halk?n?n üzerinden geçen tank!Lanet olsun lanet olsun Allah kahretsin! #darbe #ankara #istanbul #DarbeyeHay?r pic.twitter.com/z38GllQTDI
— Umut (@uumuutarslan) July 16, 2016
Surveillance camera footage also showed tanks opening fire on civilian protesters on the Bosphorus Bridge in Istanbul in the early hours of Friday morning.
[Video] – Failed Coup attempt in #Turkey https://t.co/SjYfWcSmDy pic.twitter.com/aHY9eNZ3j1
— ANADOLU AGENCY (ENG) (@anadoluagency) July 21, 2016
It was revulsion at these massacres that prompted calls for Turkey to reintroduce the death penalty to deal with the guilty soldiers and gave Erdogan popular support for the sweeping arrest of thousands accused of sympathizing with the coup plotters.
Trump’s lack of awareness about what took place in Turkey was matched by his confusion about what happened to the Chinese man who famously blocked the path of a column of tanks during the attack on pro-democracy protesters in Beijing ‘s Tiananmen Square on June 5, 1989.
As the New York Times reported the next day, after a few tense minutes, the photographers who captured the scene watched as the man was eventually dragged away, not run over.
The lead tank came to a stop squarely on the yellow line in the street, and for a long moment the man just stood there. But then he leaped onto the tank. He bounded over the hood and leaned into the hatch, talking to the soldiers inside, perhaps pleading for them to abandon their vehicles.
After pacing back and forth on the hood of the tank, the man climbed down. A passing bicyclist stopped to chat with him. Then two other men ran into the street. One, in a dark shirt, had his hands up, as if to say, ”Don’t shoot.”
The two grabbed the man in the white shirt by the arms and hustled him off. And then the confrontation was over. The tanks were on their way again.
General Campbell, ex-U.S. NATO Commander, was behind Turkey’s attempted coup? The end of Turkey’s participation in NATO?
https://www.rt.com/news/353126-campbell-nato-coup-turkey/
Much respect to Robert Mackey and The Intercept for clarifying the Turkey pre-purge coup attempt. Now it makes sense why Turkish citizens were beating, whipping and kicking Turkish soldiers.
Video proof that when a military force turns inward on its own people, personal firearms are no match for tanks, let alone helicopter gunships.
This is exactly what we are flirting with here in the US when we give the cops military equipment. There is not one person who wears a uniform, anywhere in the world, who is not a baby killing rapist and monster! Humanity is totally insane!
Mr. Mackey, you should be paying more attention to Arby.
The coup plot about Turkey is thickening. Aside from misinformation from bloggers like Benito Mussolini who tried to distract from U.S. involvement in the coup…
“… The attempted coup appears to have been an amateur effort. As one ex-CIA employee sniffed… Social media is important, but not because it thwarts coups in and of itself. Its continuance during a coup is a bellwether, however, a sure sign the CIA is not involved …”
I beg to differ.
Just a few news tidbits that would draw attention to suspect U.S. military/CIA complicity:
L.A. TIMES 7/23-/16
How a stockpile of America’s nuclear weapons got tangled up in a Middle East crisis
…The base (Incirlik) was an operational center of the attempted coup. Its commander and his subordinates were arrested on suspicion of trying to overthrow the Turkish government, leaving junior officers in control…
L.A. TIMES 7/23-/16
Top officers at Incirlik Air Base arrested in Turkey coup attempt
The top military official at Incirlik Air Base has been arrested, along with other officers at the base — a major U.S. air operations center in the Middle East — in connection with an attempt by a military faction to overthrow the government of Turkey, authorities said Sunday…
…official media reported the arrest of the top Turkish military official at Incirlik, Gen. Bekir Ercan Van.
Van was among 10 soldiers arrested at the base, part of an operation Turkish officials say provided air-to-air refueling for F-16 fighter jets deployed by the leaders of the coup attempt Friday night and Saturday morning…
Labor Minister Suleyman Soylu said he believed Washington was behind the coup.
Your article on 7/16 /16
Turkey’s President Survives Coup Attempt…
…Brad Sherman, a Democratic congressman from California, suggested that a coup could bring about “real democracy,”
Ret Lt. Col. Peters: “If the coup succeeds, Islamists lose and we win.”
Is it just Arby and I, or is everybody ignoring the elephant in the room Mr. Mackey?
As much as it pains me to partially defend an arse such as Trump, his statement contains one definite error, not two. Garbled language aside, it is true for him to say that ‘army types’ (in tanks/APC’s) drove over protesters during the Tiananmen Square massacre; there are reports of this happening both as the PLA entered the suburbs of Beijing on June the 3rd 1989, and as the students left the square on the morning of the 4th.
Yes, ‘Tank Man’ himself was not run over, but Trump doesn’t appear to be talking about one man. You make the link between his words and one iconic photo and, in doing that, imply that Trump said something he didn’t, and partly obscure what happened in China in 1989.
Trump may well know nothing about Tiananmen, and might not care whether or not what he’s saying is true . But when reporting on someone who is famed for not checking his facts, it’s even more important that you are tight with yours.
After views tanks rolling over civilians, my concern over militarized police and our yuge military made me wonder how many military units in the US are so disciplined that they would also kill civilians because of orders from superiors.
“defend another member of the NATO alliance in the event of a Russian attack”? Really? How about defending Russia after ever more NATO encroachment in violation of an agreement? NATO is the aggressor here, not Russia.
Stop falsifying history.
The Chinese tanks ran over more people in Tienanmen square than were ever killed in Turkey.
Trump has NEVER let something as irrelevant as the facts affect what he says, and that’s just fine with his supporters. Which will make the night of the election (and the subsequent days) a time when foreign governments should be issuing travel advisories for right now. Remember all that was claimed to happen in Iran after Ahmadinejad’s reelection? Take that, mix in armed police not shy about shooting, armed extremists who feel that any result but them being in charge is morally offensive and only possible through rigging, and several decades of NRA propaganda about said extremists guns being the foundation of democracy.
“Donald Trump Crams Two Errors Into One Statement on Turkey”
or
“My Dog Left Two Turds in the Yard Today”
Which headline would you rather click on? Neither is a valid answer.
Really, this space could have discussed the black man gunned down by police who were actually trying to gun down the black autistic man with a toy truck in his hands.
That’s all you have to say about the failed coup?! You do know that the US was behind it, Don’t you?
http://bit.ly/29NyW4Z
I’m starting to think President Gump would be better prepared than a President Trump.
And pretty sure that man was never seen again