As my colleague Glenn Greenwald told WNYC on Monday, while there may never be conclusive evidence that the Democratic National Committee was hacked by Russian intelligence operatives to extract the trove of embarrassing emails published by WikiLeaks, it would hardly be shocking if that was what happened.
“Governments do spy on each other and do try to influence events in other countries,” Glenn noted. “Certainly the U.S. government has a very long and successful history of doing exactly that.”
Even so, he added, given the ease with which we were misled into war in Iraq by false claims about weapons of mass destruction — and the long history of Russophobia in American politics — it is vital to cast a skeptical eye over whatever evidence is presented to support the claim, made by Hillary Clinton’s aide Robby Mook, that this is all part of a Russian plot to sabotage the Democrats and help Donald Trump win the election.
Clinton campaign manager on DNC leak: Experts say "Russians are releasing these emails" to help Trump #CNNSOTU https://t.co/GwJhloosPs
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 24, 2016
The theory gained some traction, particularly among Trump’s detractors, in part because the candidate has seemed obsessed at times with reminding crowds that Russian President Vladimir Putin once said something sort of nice about him (though not, as Trump falsely claims, that the American is “a genius”). Then last week, Trump’s campaign staff watered down a pledge to help Ukraine defend its territory from Russian-backed rebels and the candidate told the New York Times he would not necessarily honor the NATO treaty commitment that requires the United States military to defend other member states from a direct attack by Russia.
Since Trump has refused to release his tax returns, there are also questions about whether or not his businesses might depend to some extent on Russian investors. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son Donald Jr. told a real estate conference in 2008, the Washington Post reported last month. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
Paul Manafort, who is directing Trump’s campaign and was for years a close adviser of a Putin ally, former President Viktor Yanukovych of Ukraine, called the theory that Trump’s campaign had ties to the Russian government “absurd.” (On Monday, Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News reported that a DNC researcher looking into Manafort’s ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine in May had been warned that her personal Yahoo email account was under attack. “We strongly suspect that your account has been the target of state-sponsored actors,” the warning from the email service security team read.)
Unhelpfully for Trump, his most senior adviser with knowledge of the world of hacking, retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told Bloomberg View that he “would not be surprised at all” to learn that Russia was behind the breach of the DNC network. “Both China and Russia have the full capability to do this,” he said.
Later on Monday, Trump himself then attributed the attack on the DNC to “China, Russia, one of our many, many ‘friends,'” who “came in and hacked the hell out of us.”
Since very few of us are cybersecurity experts, and the Iraq debacle is a reminder of how dangerous it can be to put blind faith in experts whose claims might reinforce our own political positions, there is also the question of who we can trust to provide reliable evidence.
One expert in the field, who is well aware of the evidence-gathering capabilities of the U.S. government, is Edward Snowden, the former Central Intelligence Agency technician and National Security Agency whistleblower who exposed the extent of mass surveillance and has been given temporary asylum in Russia.
“If Russia hacked the #DNC, they should be condemned for it,” Snowden wrote on Twitter on Monday, with a link to a 2015 report on the U.S. government’s response to the hacking of Sony Pictures. In that case, he noted, “the FBI presented evidence” for its conclusion that North Korea was responsible for the hacking and subsequent release of internal emails. (The FBI is now investigating the breach of the DNC’s network, which officials told the Daily Beast they first made the committee aware of in April.)
What’s more, Snowden added, the NSA has tools that should make it possible to trace the source of the hack. Even though the Director of National Intelligence usually opposes making such evidence public, he argued, this is a case in which the agency should do so, if only to discourage future attacks.
Evidence that could publicly attribute responsibility for the DNC hack certainly exists at #NSA, but DNI traditionally objects to sharing.
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 25, 2016
Without a credible threat that USG can and will use #NSA capabilities to publicly attribute responsibility, such hacks will become common.
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 25, 2016
To summarize: the US Intel Community should modernize their position on disclosure. Defensive capabilities should be aggressively public.
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 25, 2016
Another former insider with knowledge of American and Russian intelligence capabilities, Michael McFaul, the U.S. ambassador to Russia from 2012 to 2014, agreed that it should be possible for the U.S. to present proof if Russia was, in fact, responsible for the attack.
I assume that the US counterintelligence agencies have been investigating Russian theft of DNC emails. Hope they tell us results soon.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) July 24, 2016
As U.S. voter, I'm appalled by Russian meddling, want it investigated & stopped. As long-time analyst of Russia, Im impressed; they're good
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) July 24, 2016
While we wait to see if the NSA will take its most famous former employee’s advice, it is worth reading a thorough review of the evidence produced so far, compiled for Motherboard by Thomas Rid, a professor at King’s College London who has charted the use of hacking for espionage.
As Rid explains, the attribution of the DNC hack to Russian intelligence agents was first suggested on June 15 by CrowdStrike, the cybersecurity firm hired by the Democrats to investigate the possible breach of their system in May.
Last month, one of the firm’s founders, Dmitri Alperovitch, explained in a detailed technical analysis of their findings that CrowdStrike discovered “two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May.”
The groups, he added, are so familiar to the investigators from previous attacks that they have acquired commonly used nicknames in the security industry. One, “Cozy Bear” or “APT 29,” had been inside the committee’s network for about a year; a second, “Fancy Bear,” also called “APT 28,” breached the system in April.
We’ve had lots of experience with both of these actors attempting to target our customers in the past and know them well. In fact, our team considers them some of the best adversaries out of all the numerous nation-state, criminal and hacktivist/terrorist groups we encounter on a daily basis. Their tradecraft is superb, operational security second to none and the extensive usage of “living-off-the-land” techniques enables them to easily bypass many security solutions they encounter. In particular, we identified advanced methods consistent with nation-state level capabilities including deliberate targeting and “access management” tradecraft — both groups were constantly going back into the environment to change out their implants, modify persistent methods, move to new Command & Control channels and perform other tasks to try to stay ahead of being detected.
Cozy Bear is the group that “successfully infiltrated the unclassified networks of the White House, State Department, and U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff” last year, Alperovitch noted. Fancy Bear, he added, has “been linked publicly to intrusions into the German Bundestag and France’s TV5 Monde TV station in April 2015.”
Readers with a high level of technical competence can parse the clues explained fully in Alperovitch’s blog post, but he also noted a surprising fact: that the two groups thought to be affiliated with rival Russian intelligence agencies — the successor to the Soviet-era KGB, known as the FSB, and the GRU, a military intelligence service — appeared unaware of each other’s activities.
“We have identified no collaboration between the two actors, or even an awareness of one by the other,” Alperovitch observed. “Instead, we observed the two Russian espionage groups compromise the same systems and engage separately in the theft of identical credentials.”
One day after this initial attribution of the attack to Russian intelligence was made public by CrowdStrike and the DNC, someone using the pseudonym Guccifer 2.0, in reference to the Romanian hacker who famously uncovered George W. Bush’s secret career as a painter of selfies, started publishing documents stolen from the committee’s servers on a WordPress blog set up that day, and taunting the security experts on Twitter.
Guccifer 2.0, who claims to be a Romanian who dislikes Russians, told my colleague Sam Biddle that he or she had carried out the attack with no help from anyone else, just to expose “all those illuminati that captured our world,” and had provided hacked documents to WikiLeaks.
However, several analysts pointed out that there is evidence in the metadata that copies of the DNC documents posted online by Guccifer 2.0, starting with an opposition research dossier on Trump, appear to have been processed on a computer with Russian language settings. Parsing the documents on Twitter, the blogger Davi Ottenheimer and an information security analyst who writes as @pwnallthethings pointed out that copies of the stolen documents uploaded to WordPress rendered the hacker’s username, Iron Felix, in Cyrillic characters, and gave error messages for links in Russian.
8) Lol. Russian #opsec fail. pic.twitter.com/NdxGJP5izS
— Pwn All The Things (@pwnallthethings) June 15, 2016
@pwnallthethings "error! invalid hyperlinks" in Russian… pic.twitter.com/T9jmLnNiKF
— (((davi – ??))) (@daviottenheimer) June 15, 2016
Doubts were also cast over Guccifer 2.0’s identity by his or her apparent lack of fluency in Romanian in an online chat with Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai of Motherboard.
Despite Guccifer 2.0’s claims, CrowdStrike’s attribution to the previously known Russian groups was supported by subsequent research last month from two rival network security firms: Fidelis Cybersecurity and Mandiant.
“We performed an independent review of the malware and other data (filenames, file sizes, IP addresses) in order to validate and provide our perspective on the reporting done by CrowdStrike,” Michael Buratowski, a Fidelis senior vice president, explained in a detailed technical analysis. The firm’s conclusions supported the attribution to the two well-known Russian groups. Among other factors, Buratowski noted, “the malware samples were conspicuously large” and “contained all or most of their embedded dependencies and functional code.”
“This is a very specific modus operandi less sophisticated actors do not employ,” he argued.
A Mandiant researcher, Marshall Heilman, told the Washington Post he agreed that the malware and associated servers were consistent with those previously used by the two Russian groups.
Another American cybersecurity firm, ThreatConnect, reported on Tuesday that it had uncovered evidence that “Guccifer 2.0 is using the Russia-based Elite VPN service to communicate and leak documents” to reporters.
The suspicion that the raid of the DNC servers might have been carried out by Russian intelligence was unsurprising to some experts, as Wired’s Andy Greenberg reported, given that the FBI warned both Barack Obama and John McCain in 2008 that their campaign computer systems had been breached by foreign hackers, most likely from Russia or China.
Some observers, like the Harvard Law professor Jack Goldsmith, who worked for President George W. Bush, suggested that such attacks might be seen as payback, given that American intelligence agencies have made aggressive use of hacking, which “almost certainly extends to political organizations in adversary states.”
7/ Current U.S. cyber-espionage almost certainly extends to political organizations in adversary states.
— Jack Goldsmith (@jacklgoldsmith) July 26, 2016
As the journalist Marcy Wheeler noted on her blog, according to report on the Snowden documents by Jens Glüsing, Laura Poitras, Marcel Rosenbach and Holger Stark for Spiegel, the NSA hacked into “a key mail server in the Mexican Presidencia domain within the Mexican Presidential network,” during that country’s 2012 election campaign, and intercepted 85,489 text messages sent by the ruling party candidate, Enrique Peña Nieto himself, or his associates.
What makes the DNC breach new, however, is the fact that close to 20,000 emails and other documents — including personal information and credit card details of donors — were provided to WikiLeaks, which made them public on the eve of this week’s convention. Some of the private email traffic made public, which validated complaints from the Bernie Sanders campaign that the DNC officials favored Hillary Clinton, helped to reopen wounds from the bruising primary campaign.
Chants of "WikiLeaks" and "Lock her up" outside the DNC convention. pic.twitter.com/YksSfoWnKn
— Philip Crowther (@PhilipinDC) July 25, 2016
California Bernie delegates chanting "Wikileaks Wikileaks Wikileaks" pic.twitter.com/4wGOVYONCO
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 25, 2016
The role played by WikiLeaks, and the professed indifference of the group’s founder, Julian Assange, to the source of the hacked documents, caused some journalists to ask if the site had allowed itself to be used as part of a post-modern dirty trick, a sort of Watergate 2.0.
One reporter, James Surowiecki of the New Yorker, even mused about how WikiLeaks might have treated documents provided by the Watergate burglars had it been around in 1972 when the Republican operatives broke into the DNC office in that building, precisely to obtain damaging information about the party through theft and surveillance.
If WL had been around in '72, would it have published DNC documents Watergate burglars stole and transcripts from the bugs they planted?
— James Surowiecki (@JamesSurowiecki) July 24, 2016
Of course, many other reporters have taken the view that the material made public by WikiLeaks is clearly newsworthy, given that it helps expose the inner workings of a largely unaccountable private political party, which plays a central and privileged role in the election of America’s leaders. That is why an array of publications, including The Intercept, quickly started to provide reporting and analysis on what was revealed in the leaked documents.
Asked by NBC News on Monday if WikiLeaks might have been used to distribute documents stolen as part of a Russian intelligence operation, Assange insisted there was “no proof of that whatsoever — we have not disclosed our source, and of course this is a diversion that’s being pushed by the Hillary Clinton campaign.”
WATCH: No proof Russians used WikiLeaks in #DNCLeak, Julian Assange tells @RichardEngel on @NBCNightlyNews. https://t.co/UJCBe4fT9l
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) July 25, 2016
Of course, given that a cornerstone of the WikiLeaks promise to sources is that the site was designed to receive material without revealing the identity of the leaker to anyone at the anti-secrecy group, it should be impossible for Assange himself to know that the hacked DNC documents did not come from a Russian intelligence operative — or, for that matter, a Republican one.
Convinced by the available evidence that the leak was orchestrated by Russian intelligence, Thomas Rid, the security analyst who writes for Motherboard, went so far as to suggest that by publishing these documents, WikiLeaks had become “a legitimate target” for counterintelligence operations by the five-nation club of the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
23 June 2016, sadly, marks the day on which Wikileaks became a legitimate target for five-eyes (counter) intelligence operations.
— Thomas Rid (@RidT) July 24, 2016
Although WikiLeaks describes the hacked DNC emails as “part one of our new Hillary Leaks series,” Assange himself rejected the charge that he is helping in a partisan attack. “This is a quite a classical release,” he told Amy Goodman of “Democracy Now” on Monday, “showing the benefit of producing pristine data sets, presenting them before the public, where there’s equal access to all journalists and to interested members of the public to mine through them and have them in a citable form where they can then be used to prop up certain criticisms or political arguments.”
Assange demurred when Goodman asked if he preferred Trump over Clinton — “You’re asking me, do I prefer cholera or gonorrhea?” — but he was more forthright in an interview with Robert Peston of Britain’s ITV on June 12, two days before the DNC hack was first reported.
After telling Peston in that conversation, “We have emails relating to Hillary Clinton which are pending publication,” Assange was asked if his intention was to help Trump get elected. “Well, I think Trump is a completely unpredictable phenomenon. You can’t predict what he would do in office,” he replied. “From my personal perspective, well, you know, the emails we published show that Hillary Clinton is receiving constant updates about my personal situation; she has pushed for the prosecution of WikiLeaks, which is still in train. So, we do see her as a bit of a problem, for freedom of the press more generally.”
On Twitter, WikiLeaks has been more forthright about seeing the DNC emails and those from Clinton’s personal server — which the group copied from the State Department’s website to make into a searchable database — as material that can be used “to prop up certain criticisms” of the former secretary of state.
Hillary Clinton's showy rewarding of corruption by DWS is an ill wind for the corruption-overton-window of a future presidency.
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) July 24, 2016
Audience at DNC turns on Bernie Sanders after he says "we must elect Hillary Clinton" following #DNCLeak https://t.co/yJszgko2XK #DNCinPHL
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) July 25, 2016
Some of that criticism, however, has not been well-grounded in fact, leaving the organization open to accusations that, rather than serving as an impartial clearinghouse for leaks, annotated by its readers — like Wikipedia — it has evolved into a platform for analysis by a small circle of insiders.
To take one example, on Saturday, a WikiLeaks tweet incorrectly claimed that one email from the leak revealed that Luis Miranda, the DNC communications director, had suggested that Trump might have been right to say that Ted Cruz’s father was involved in the Kennedy assassination.
#DNCLeak: Trump may be right about Ted Cruz's father & JFK kill — Comms head Luis Miranda https://t.co/jjJV1ndJzM pic.twitter.com/UGbPNLutAE
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) July 23, 2016
Reading the email itself, however, shows something quite different. The complete text of the email chain makes it clear that Miranda was contributing to a thread in which officials worked together to edit a draft of a humorous press release, or “hit,” that mocked Trump for making such an outlandish suggestion.
While Miranda did write to his colleagues that Cruz’s father might have been part of an anti-Castro Cuban exile community “with questionable histories,” he also indicated that he approved the final text, which was posted online by the DNC that same day. That text put Trump’s claim about Cruz’s father at the top of a list of examples of “the GOP’s presumptive standard bearer just spouting nonsense he reads on the internet or in the tabloids.”
Here's the May 3 DNC press release mocking Trump for discussing conspiracy theories, like Cruz's father killing JFK pic.twitter.com/hiDBXO75hH
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) July 26, 2016
While such errors in the annotation of the DNC documents look more like sloppiness than an attempt to intentionally mislead readers, the mistakes point to a weakness in the platform’s development — the lack of a robust system for correcting mistakes noted by readers, like the one used by Wikipedia.
That problem has also been noted in the way WikiLeaks presented emails from Hillary Clinton’s private server first released by the State Department.
In March, WikiLeaks was criticized by some Twitter followers — including David Kenner, the Middle East editor of Foreign Policy — for the confusing way it presented the text of a draft opinion article sent to Clinton by a friend as if it were the text of an email from her — and one that revealed her secret plan to destroy the Syrian government to help Israel.
Hillary Emails: Overthrow #Syrian government to help Israel https://t.co/e93JddH9nv #syria #iran #saudi pic.twitter.com/yZysFuOT2H
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) March 18, 2016
In fact, as the State Department’s website makes clear, that text was sent to Clinton as an attachment to a 2012 email from James Rubin, who served in Bill Clinton’s administration. Reading the email, Rubin attached his draft piece to make it clear that he hoped his essay — which was later published in slightly revised form by Foreign Policy — would convince the Obama administration to help Syrian rebels topple Bashar al-Assad largely to “forestall the biggest danger on the horizon, that Israel launches a surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.”
Rubin also made it clear in his email that he did not think Clinton shared his view of the situation at that time. “I know you may not agree,” he wrote, “but I thought it was better to share this with you first as at least a new way to look at the problem.”
Unfortunately, the way WikiLeaks described Rubin’s draft op-ed as one of “Hillary Emails” sowed confusion online and led to outraged blog posts and Russian news reports that mistakenly credited Assange’s group with revealing the text of a bombshell email from Clinton that offered insight into her thinking.
Despite concerns that the group’s own annotation of documents related to Clinton might be at times muddled, in his “Democracy Now” interview, Assange defended his decision not to “establish partnerships with the New York Times or the Washington Post,” as he has done in the past to ensure that leaked documents would come to light not only in raw form but also accompanied by some analysis from political or national security reporters.
Working with the editorial staffs of those newspapers on material like this “might be counterproductive,” Assange said, “because they are partisans of one group or another.”
Paul Manafort works for Donald Drumph was employed by the Ukraine Thieves in Power as was John Podesta who works for Her Royal Clintoness .When President Barack Obama and First family leave Pennsylvania Ave. they will be next door Neighbors with John Podesta .
Whoops, I quoted Mackey as saying that Assange was “less ambivalent” when Assange was actually being more ambivalent. What Mackey said was that Assange was “more forthright” when Assange was actually being less forthright. Same difference — only on Opposites Day can one characterize those two Assange statements the way Mackey characterizes them — but I should get my quotations straight.
Mackey’s own bias is on striking display at one point. He characterizes Assange as having “demurred” when he responds to a question about supporting Trump by comparing both candidates to infectious diseases– and Assange added, though we don’t get this part of the quote, “Personally, I would prefer neither.” Isn’t that an unambivalent rejection of both candidates? Is there some phrase that would have been less ambivalent? I do not see how that statement can be reasonably characterized as a demurral.
Mackey then goes on to say that Assange is being “less ambivalent” when he answers a similar question in another interview by saying that Trump is a wild card, “you can’t predict what he would do in office,” while Clinton is a known quantity, a sworn enemy of Wikileaks and “a bit of a problem, for freedom of the press more generally.” Unless today is Opposites Day, the latter statement is _more_ ambivalent than the foregoing, not less. Even read in isolation, it is not only not a clear endorsement of Trump, but it could easily be taken as just another rejection of both candidates.
But we don’t read in isolation. We have before us the quote where Assange says flatly that he would “prefer neither” candidate. It takes major cognitive origami to make Assange into a Trump supporter on the basis of these two statements; Mackey does so in masterfully cool journalese, but it’s still a folding trick.
So in sum, this piece, though well worth reading overall, spins this important point exactly backwards, saying Assange “demurred” when he straightforward and that he was “less ambivalent” when he was wordier and less straightforward. Thus making Assange out as a pro-Trump man.
Bias, non-neutrality, spin . . .? Remove the log from thine own eye, O Intercept.
This has all the earmarks partisan reporting. He is attacking Assange because Mackey understands how damaging these emails are and how potentially damaging the next will be. He is carefully preparing the argument that Wikileaks cannot be trusted. He knows Assange released this DNC emails at the right time, just before the convention. The next batch will be timed also for maximum effect. What’s next? The debates. A release will get everyone watching, something the DNC would prefer not happen. Hillary doesn’t poll well when tested by the press or opponents.
Since we know NSA is collecting everything (NSA Whistle-Blower Tells All: The Program | Op-Docs | The New York Times). And since we know NSA shares raw sig int— including American’s data—with Israel (NSA shares raw intelligence including Americans’ data with Israel | the guardian). Why isn’t Israel or the NSA suspect? Why blame “hackers”? Why not blame the raw data collectors?
This post obfuscates the issue. The issue is not who hacked the DNC, but the information that the hack provided. Who did the hacking is a minor detail in comparison. It’s really disappointing to see The Intercept fall into this propagandistic crap.
Of course it’s an issue if WikiLeaks is letting itself become a pawn in political rivalries. When they uncritically release every piece of information they receive from a source, then they’re not “independent”; they’re doing the source’s bidding since they have ultimate control over what is “leaked” or not. It matters if that source is a national intelligence agency looking to embarrass or influence the elections of another nation.
The article also discusses how WikiLeaks publicly misrepresents the information they’ve leaked to be as sensational as possible.
You would have been among the primary targets for Nixon’s attempt to discredit the Democratic Party. It feels good to be indignant about all of this, but whose bidding are you ultimately doing?
Jeff D… I kind of see this as much the same as the US mainstream media focusing on “F*** the EU” in the Victoria Nuland phone call rather than the content which seemed to suggest a US backed coup in my mind with US officials picking whom should go into the Ukrainian Government. Smoke and mirrors…
Jeff D is absolutely correct. If Hitler’s war plans had been leaked by an underground group, would the focus be on the war plans or the leakers? Today’s press would probably focus on the leakers.
Like J. Edgar, our Deep State might like to keep potential blackmail material useful to itself for future appropriations votes.
Exactly. I’ve read many articles about the ridiculous “possibility” that Putin might use Hillary’s hacked emails to “blackmail” her, and yet I haven’t read a single article which even remotely wonders whether our own FBI, CIA, or NSA might not be in an even better position to do the same thing — the result being that, if elected, Hillary could find herself having to take orders FROM the FBI, CIA, or NSA instead of being the one giving the orders.
“…the professed indifference of the group’s founder, Julian Assange, to the source of the hacked documents, caused some journalists to ask if the site had allowed itself to be used as part of a post-modern dirty trick, a sort of Watergate 2.0.”
Except that it reveals secret dirty tricks against Bernie Sanders and his supporters.
I cannot help being astonished by some of the naïveté on display regarding the DNC hack. Hillary has
1. effectively called for the execution of Julian Assange. HRC called him a traitor who should be extradited to the US. Why *shouldn’t* Assange target Crooked Hillary?
2. been (since the 1990s!) in the vanguard of the war party pushing NATO eastward (and northward from Georgia) toward war with Russia. Why *shouldn’t* the Russians target this warmongering corporate tool?
Furthermore, as noted,
3. The US meddles in foreign elections on a regular basis, and has done so for over a century. This is the stock in trade of organizations like USAID and party-based organizations (which USAID funds) like the International Republican Institute and the National Democratic Institute.
4. The US *invented* cyberwar, and likes to boast (via, umm, anonymous sources) about attacks like Stuxnet.
So why should *any* warmongering US politician, and especially a Clinton, not expect retaliation from those they target? If Daesh whacked Hillary with a drone strike, would that not be fair play?
Why Snowden wants to get in bed with Hillary et al, after all they’ve done and *want to do* to him, is even more flabbergasting.
““Given the grave nature of this breach and the fact that it may ultimately be found to be a state-sponsored attempt to manipulate our presidential election, we believe a heightened measure of TRANSPARENCY is warranted,” Feinstein and Schiff added.”
https://morningconsult.com/alert/top-intelligence-committee-democrats-call-release-classified-reports-dnc-hack/
Lyin’ Ted has infected Crooked with some of his bad habits, and she in turn has infected her whole team. Very sad. We need to chuck Ted over the wall that Canada will pay to build. I wonder what his dad was doing with Lee Harvey Oswald.
Good one General.
“..WikiLeaks might have been used to distribute documents stolen as part of a Russian intelligence operation..”
Lions and tigers and Russian bears, oh my!
If the documents are true, then I don’t care if Putin or ‘Great Leader’ or Hitler’s ghost released them. Democracy cannot stand on secrets.
Nixon would have loved you. You get some secrets from one party while the others get off scot-free. Exactly what are you going to do now that you are armed with this information? Vote for Trump? Vote for Jill Stein? Write in Sanders? Note vote at all?
If these leaks inspire you only to support the other guy or to opt out of democracy altogether, then all you’re really doing is letting yourself be a pawn of Putin or Great Leader or Hitler’s ghost. You either need to be doing a hell of a lot more, or you need to stop being so self-righteous.
The leaks suggest that there are people who should face consequences for their bottom feeding tactics.
The leaks however do not disclose what many of us already knew – so likely there will be little impact. No one was surprised but the ill-informed.
Ouch.
IF Snowden leaked the technical details of how XKeyscore works to Russia and others in the world,
IF measures were taken by ISPs, email account providers, etc, to encrypt traffic and prevent the information gathering on which XKeyScore relies,
IF Russians know the low level technical details of XKeyScore, then it is possible that they can avoid being detected by it. Snowden knows very well that once you reverse engineer a program/method/algorithm, you can find ways to combat it. He also knows very well that once a program is compromised it cannot be trusted. His claims about the NSA knowing thanks to XKeyScore are therefore very weak, if not outright lies.
First thing: there’s no such thing as “freedom of the press” or “freedom of speech”. Those are two idealist concepts cretated by the bourgeoisie to legitimize private monopoly over the construction of public opinion.
But the funny thing is not the fact that Assange is allegedly (as Robert Mackey infers in his article) attacking HRC for personal reasons under the umbrella of a bourgeois concept, but the fact that the bourgeoisie is, after decades of regime change (including the one that recently happened in Brazil, that was only possible because the NSA leaked vital information of Petrobras to a rogue fascist US-trained judge) and soft-power projection through circus and propaganda, is finally being in the receiving end of an ideological weapon (the idea of freedom of speech/of the press) – and is complaining like spoiled babies about it.
Ugh -Snowden again? He’s like the foil in 1984
Anyway, Russia might’ve gotten the emails, but would they really leak it as a means of undermining a presidential candidate? That seems very dangerous.
What about Manafort? He was the first thought that entered my mind, as he probably has significant ties to Ukraine and possibly Russia as well, and Ukraine/Russia is full of hacker-types.
Or – it could be somebody else – maybe a lone wolf like guccifer, that jumped on the trail after he got pinched.
Regardless, this is the election campaign to end all election campaigns
So, that is the whole problem here; U.S. citizens cannot trust anything anyone says from any of it’s gov. agencies. All of the politicitans coopt a position based on the selling price — what’s in it for me, after all they’re not experts in whatever either.
I think a clean wipe is in order. The U.S. fed/state gov gets out of all business. They shall only deliver the mail and protect the border. No more commissions chaired by HRC or the like, or up&coming HRCs …. “that’s you’re tax dollars at work.. and it’s doin good, she’s a good change maker…”
Why do gov bureaucrats need to chair committees on this or that? They don’t know anything, WJC said so of HRC last night. They just figure it out wasting your taxes in the process – setting up sweet deals for themselves.
Borders.
Mail.
That’s it.
Because we’re not experts and we can’t trust you.
What’s wrong with UPS?
The only way to keep things in perspective from the US government is to not believe anything said as remotely being true. Think of magic, smoke and mirrors and misdirection, that’s how things are. If they are saying something chances are it’s wrong or, at best, clouded in veiled half-truths and innuendo. I believe most of this latest batch of nonsense is all part of the propaganda is to get us to hate Russia, again. There’s always got to be something to spend ungodly sums of borrowed dollars on so this is their newest baby. Then most of the poor clueless Americans will only be left scratching their heads when the skies explode or the economy collapses. Either way there are darker days ahead, it’s just a matter of when and how bad.
This is an act of espionage, which is a crime. In view of that fact, I find the moral justifications for the public release of these emails by Wikileaks extremely weak. How is the disclosure of this information in the public interest, when it was deliberately done to advance the foreign policy goals of an aggressive dictatorship and adversary like Russia?
Assange strikes me as some whose notions of freedom and the public interest more closely resemble those of members of NAMBLA than the ACLU.
“I find the moral justifications for the public release of these emails by Wikileaks extremely weak. How is the disclosure of this information in the public interest,”
You are insane or a liar if you don’t see how this information serves the public interest…but keep on attacking the messenger, and maybe you’ll trick a few elderly democrats into believing your story.
Ian…I clearly see that you’re an enemy of progress. I also see that you prefer darkness to light, and as it stands you cannot see the light. If this information is not for public interest, I wonder what is then.
Are you too blind to see that without these leaks the government would have enslaved all its citizens. Lies, lies and lies all the time, telling the people what they want them to hear, and blind them forever. Morons are born not made!
Finally cashing in for Russia Snowden? Too much pressure?
Guccifer 2.0 is certainly working with or for Russian Intelligence. You can read about the technical evidence here: https://www.threatconnect.com/guccifer-2-all-roads-lead-russia/
With Trump and Assange’s admiration for autocratic Putin and Trumps long financial ties to Russia, as well as his recent comments about disinterest in NATO, this is becoming an interesting web of information. Do we know what goes where? No it’s a tangled mess which makes me more afraid not less.
What a interesting tightrope has to be walked here.
The same reason that nothing will come of this is the same reason why it is incredibly unlikely that the Russian government is behind this.
The US has to walk a very thin tightrope here because the Russian government actually does have an incredibly large amount of US government documents and correspondence that if released would explosively rewrite US history. And conversely, the US government has exactly the same on Russia. It has always been this way.
Mutual assured destruction is pretty much the only thing keeping a lid on these documents, especially the older stuff.
So while the US government is publicly promoting the idea that the Russian government is responsible here, they are either furiously working behind the scenes to reassure Russia that this is all election bullshit, or they are seriously risking a real Russian document dump and a nuclear war of information.
So, if you really believe Russia is responsible here and the US response is sincere, then we are at the precipice of Data Armageddon.
:) Sweet!!!
Either the history of the world is about to be rewritten, or this is just all bullshit election lies from camp Hillary.
Which seems more likely? I would love to believe that Russia has gone all Wikileaks, but in the whole scheme of things it just seems so unlikely.
The question might also be asked: if Russia is trying to put a finger on the US electoral scale, and they possess such troves of astonishing hacked information, are these DNC emails the best they could come up with? These emails only underline what was already obvious to all — pro-Clinton bias at the DNC. Not pretending to be a national security expert here, but asking in a commonsense manner: If it was the Russians, why wasn’t the effort more impressive than documented confirmation of a belief already widespread ?
Mr. Mackey
The article is a good take-down of WikiLeaks that exposes their political motivations. Everyone has a favorite candidate.
“…….Assange was asked if his intention was to help Trump get elected. “Well, I think Trump is a completely unpredictable phenomenon. You can’t predict what he would do in office,” he replied. “From my personal perspective, well, you know, the emails we published show that Hillary Clinton is receiving constant updates about my personal situation; she has pushed for the prosecution of WikiLeaks, which is still in train. So, we do see her as a bit of a problem, for freedom of the press more generally.”……”
This is a typical political ploy used by the radical left to attack HRC as a hawk while hoping (or is that praying?) that Trump advocates a more isolationists policy. HRC is strongly pro Israel and clearly values geopolitical allies. Trump is soft on Russian eastern European policies. So it is not surprising in the least that Assange advocates this particular position (bordering on personal). Of course, Assange is going to couch his advocacy in “freedom of the press”.
Anyone who believes that publication of hacked documents – classified or not – will not be used for political purposes and political advocacy is naive. That includes WikiLeaks, the Intercept, the NYT etc. All news sources are advocates although some – like the Intercept – are more blatant about it. There is no more of a reason to trust their good intentions than any other human endeavor.
But Assange’s assertion that Hillary is against a more open government and for the surveillance state is exactly correct. As bad as Obama has been to whistleblowers, Hillary would be worse.
So vote for Trump and enjoy the consequences, bolshevik. This was an act of espionage exactly like those of “Citizen Genet” in the 2nd US Presidential election. Had the French succeeded in their spetsoperatsiya then, we might still have slavery.
We’re all legitimately entitled to viciously wage our own internal political battles in this country. The intelligence services of hostile dictatorships are not. Therefore, Wikileaks in this instance aided and abetted a crime.
But aren’t virtually all leaks, including Snowden’s, crimes in somebody’s book? Thefts of private or state-secret data? There must be an additional standard, e.g., newsworthiness, exposure of lies or crimes, the like, if one is to approve of almost any leak at all. This article we’re all commenting on notes that the Intercept judged the DNC leaks newsworthy and has been dishing coverage based on them. That inherently argues in favor of the leak’s (at least partial) legitimacy: newsworthiness.
This is standard neocon drivel, craigsummers. “Isolationist” is code for Putin-is-Hitler; “Trump is soft on Russia” is code for Chamberlain-appeasing-Hitler. Cheap PR monkey tricks.
In reality, the neocon movement has been financed by a constellation of think tanks funded by major defense contractors who live off government handouts, and NATO funding is a chief source of those handouts. Another big cash cow is Saudi arms purchases, and of course much of the $4 billion a year in aid delivered to Israel is recycled right back into the arms industry. What they fear above all is a reduction in U.S. military spending around the world, which would cause investors to drop their stocks and lead to a contraction of the industry. So what? They can survive a little belt-tightening, and the corporate welfare state can no longer afford their bills.
And Hillary is not a “hawk”, craigsummers, the correct word is “war pig” – if you look at all the kickbacks she took for arranging arms deals as Secretary of State, including massive donations to the Clinton Foundation as well as big speaking fees for hubby Bill Clinton, you can see that she’s as greedy as they come; really another Rudy Giuliani, whose speaking fee deals are on the same scale as the Clintons:
http://www.ibtimes.com/clinton-foundation-donors-got-weapons-deals-hillary-clintons-state-department-1934187
That’s called war piggery, craigsummers; hawks aren’t that greedy. Now, your response to this will no doubt be “Russia-bot!” or something similiar, but this is just a con game being run against the American people. The whole conspiracy theory that Mackey and the corporate media is pushing, from NPR to the NYTimes to the Guardian, is that Russia hacked the emails to help get Trump elected, because Trump will pull money out of NATO, leaving Europe defenseless against Putin’s tank onslaught. That is utter nutjob conspiracy theory BS and everyone knows it.
The fact is, without major cuts to the foreign military budget, the domestic American economy is doomed. Infrastructure, public education, healthcare and manufacturing are all in a state of crisis. Private enterprise is crippled without roads, bridges, ports, public transit, good schools, etc. The only way to pay for all this is via cutting the military budget; this is what the Hillary-boosting neocons such as yourself are trying to avoid.
“only way to pay for all this is via cutting the military budge”
Cutting the military budget is an eventual necessity, as you point out. The question is where the cuts will come and how deep. Those decisions will depend entirely on our foreign policy.
What Trump has said, I believe, is that he would not necessarily defend nations which spend less than they committed for their own defense. That is, our behavior depends on theirs and there will be no open-ended deals for defense regardless of contribution. That would also imply that nations capable of higher contribution to their own self-defense will be expected to step up to it.
This change of direction would be branded as “isolationist” only by useful fools — which is to say most of the entrenched DC establishment and the voters who enable them.
photosymbiosis
“…….This is standard neocon drivel, craigsummers. “Isolationist” is code for Putin-is-Hitler; “Trump is soft on Russia” is code for Chamberlain-appeasing-Hitler. Cheap PR monkey tricks……”
I mean “Isolationists” as in Pat Buchanan who opposes the neoconservative movement. Another way to look at this is the policy of China which is to not interfere in the internal affairs of the country they do business with – like their blood for oil program in Darfur.
“…….What they fear above all is a reduction in U.S. military spending around the world, which would cause investors to drop their stocks and lead to a contraction of the industry. So what?…..”
US arms is big business, but for every arms deal the US drops, there is someone waiting in the wing to supply those arms – including Russia.
“…….And Hillary is not a “hawk”, craigsummers, the correct word is “war pig”…..”
Call it what you want. She is outwardly more hawkish than Trump. Certainly Putin meets the same criteria as well as a war pig, right? He has started a war in Ukraine (after illegally annexing the Crimea Peninsula); participated in a war in Georgia when their former client state became too friendly to the west; and has troops on the ground and are bombing anti-Assad forces in Syria to prop up the brutal Assad regime and protect their military interests in Syria. Putin is certainly a war pig if Hillary is, right?
“…….– if you look at all the kickbacks she took for arranging arms deals as Secretary of State, including massive donations to the Clinton Foundation as well as big speaking fees for hubby Bill Clinton, you can see that she’s as greedy as they come….”
I agree, but wasn’t Putin exposed in the Panama Papers? The Godfather to his child had two billion dollars shielded in three companies which Putin explained away as his friend buying and donating expensive and rare instruments to Russia. Hmmmmm, seems a little suspicious to me. I don’t think greed is limited to American politicians.
“……..The whole conspiracy theory that Mackey and the corporate media is pushing, from NPR to the NYTimes to the Guardian, is that Russia hacked the emails to help get Trump elected, because Trump will pull money out of NATO, leaving Europe defenseless against Putin’s tank onslaught. That is utter nutjob conspiracy theory BS and everyone knows it……”
The conspiracy theory has a basis, and is supported by some industry experts (as this article points out). In this case, I don’t blame Russia if they did hack the emails – and the Democrats cannot seem to figure out that emails are susceptible. It’s inexcusable – especially for HRC. The US has no business complaining too loudly about another country hacking the DNC. Russian intelligence is very sophisticated. Unfortunately, they failed miserably in Ukraine.
“……..The fact is, without major cuts to the foreign military budget, the domestic American economy is doomed. Infrastructure, public education, healthcare and manufacturing are all in a state of crisis. Private enterprise is crippled without roads, bridges, ports, public transit, good schools, etc. The only way to pay for all this is via cutting the military budget; this is what the Hillary-boosting neocons such as yourself are trying to avoid……”
Of course, I disagree. This is not the time to cut military spending. Let’s just hope that oil prices come back to help the Russian economy. Of course, just pulling out of Ukraine and returning the Crimea Peninsula to their rightful owners could end US sanctions. That would help the Russian economy.
Thanks photo.
Come on, don’t you recall how Russian media claimed repeatedly that the Panama Papers leak, which had embarrassing information about Putin and Assad associates, was a big NSA plot?
Now the DNC leak, which has embarrassing information about Clinton and Obama associates, is claimed to be a big Russian plot by the American corporate media.
The only thing that one can conclude is that the media tends to serve the propaganda interests of the head of state in whichever country it is based in – for a hilarious example of how that works, just see the work of Luke Harding, the paranoid Russiophobe at the Guardian UK. Actually, his coverage of the Panama Papers would make anyone suspect it was a NSA/GCHQ operation – until Cameron was caught with his pants down. Maybe that was an accident?
Regardless, these are all just cheap distraction tactics; the goal in both cases is to divert attention away from the content of the hacked information.
And yes, we need steep cuts in military spending in the United States, even if the neocon think tanks get their budgets cut and the Kagans end up having to get jobs as used car salespeople. Don’t worry, it’s not much harder than selling a war.
“……Regardless, these are all just cheap distraction tactics; the goal in both cases is to divert attention away from the content of the hacked information…….”
That is one thing we can agree on. Bernie Sander’s supporters had every right to be upset with the system. Of course, from my point of view, the last person the US needs to elect as President is Bernie Sanders. That is even worse than re-electing Gorbachev in Russia.
… the correct word is “war pig” [or] “war piggery”
Words have meaning. Those who profit from war are the lowest life forms on the planet.
I don’t give a shit who hacked the DNC, plain and simple.
HuffPost this morning has story after story about bad-guy-Putin’s hackers, the FBI investigating – and even President Obama pointing fingers at the Kremlin. How does the hack itself, a hack largely made possible by establishment attempts at Big Brother surveillance system, even matter when compared to the rigged election process again this year, as revealed by that hack?
The DNC are now revealed as no less corrupt pieces of sold-out filth, willfully subverting democracy in their own party and the country, than republicans with their voting rights restrictions aimed at minorities and youth. THAT is the real story!
No matter who exposes such truth to voters here – I believe OUR country owes them gratitude.
Bravo!!! Stop talking about who exposed information and talk about the people and things that are exposed.
We hear all about Ed Snowden but very little about the people he exposed who broke the law.
If you believe it is more likely to be a russian hacker than someone within the democratic party turned whistle blower– then run with it.
But are you sure this is the narrative you want to promote?
Not even one person within the democratic establishment moral enough to leak these emails?
OK. If you say so.
I think Putin feels Trump is less of a “Patriot”, in a US-Imperialist-bomb-Iran-and-control-the-oil style. But what he’d sooner do with the Treasuries TRILLIONS could be even more insane looking at the clear madness in the man. I don’t think it will be free healthcare for all, even the Mexican illegals and Muslim refugees, for sure.
Recently Putin has talked clearly and with a lot of sense, but as a citizen of neither country I would find a strong alliance between Russia and the USA just as scary as a war between them. Swapping tips on tyranny in the post-1984 reality seems as likely as discussing ways to make the world a better place for all our children and their children to come.
Hot or Cold, a war between superpowers just forces everyone else to take sides or be left out for bullying and pillaging by both. These can be resisted with other power blocs, but this does not necessarily mean they are desirable or progressive: Saudi Arabia are quietly building their own empire with a huge and global pool of potential members, and with Turkey seemingly wanting to play the strong-arm for them. South America’s own attempts to pull away from US power is feeling some massive fracturing whacks to its solidity and the region will always be plagued by the worst sort of archaic and racist European-style elitism. ASEAN will struggle against its TPP members and regional hostilities, despite representing more and younger people than Europe or North America. Europe itself is being torn apart by its usual inability to get past its neighbourly in-fighting and fear of centralisation, along with an aging, de-energised and conservative populous.
But imperialism feeds on conquest and the distribution of plunder to those doing the hard work of plundering – America may be redesigning the model, but without iron-firm controls and methods of exploitation coupled to a clear concept of a destination “Rome” to which all roads lead, empires teeter and collapse as quickly as they are formed. Unfortunately, some just can’t help themselves and seem to be the sort of “some” that are prooving very difficult for genuinely peaceful and corporative societies to rid themselves of, the USA being the worst example.
The words calling for true freedom are being uttered, but the means of achievement and the will to do it are still sorely lacking, so they remain hollow. And poor Julian remains a guest of the only seemingly honourable nation on Earth. What a pathetic species we are. Food for bacteria is maybe the best we ought to aspire to.
Actually, you are in part bacterial, genetically, considering the history of mitochondria.
The DNC Breach and the Hijacking of Common Sense
https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/the-dnc-breach-and-the-hijacking-of-common-sense-20e89dacfc2b#.88xb8bq8d
You know the Clintons are in charge of the DNC when the emails tell of cushy government jobs and ambassadorships already being assigned to wealthy Clinton supporters.
I like this article but with all the embedded links I find it hard to get a complete picture if I really have to click them all
Democrats calling it another watergate is a twist. I was a wee lad then but every time the Democrats gloss over a Clinton or DNC misdeed, it conjures up for me what the Republicans mindset must have been holding on for dear life in support of Nixon to the end.
I can see these guys teaching their kids that if they get in trouble for doing something wrong, they should focus on who caught them and evade all responsibility.
The emails’ content matters. Their source matters not at all. This is the same garbage that was pulled on Snowden, as though what the US government was doing was trivial compared to Snowden’s revealing it.
Precisely. The primary response of wrong doers is to deflect blame from themselves.
What is somewhat hilarious (no pun intended) about this episode is that they ostensibly knew they were being hacked for months and yet continued sending their damning e-mails. Is that hubris, or what? Also, I agree with Ed that the NSA almost certainly knew if the network breach was achieved by someone outside the US, but that would not generally result in any action being taken. Intelligence agencies have a paranoid fear of their capabilities being revealed, and would prefer NOT to release sensitive information even if it is at the cost of lives lost. They then manufacture stories about their effectiveness to cover up the fact that they either failed to detect or failed to prevent attacks.
That is an immoral position to adopt. Espionage is a crime. Wikileaks aided and abetted a foreign intelligence service in attempting to manipulate the democratic political process in the US.
I used to have a lot of respect for Wikileaks. Now I view them as pimps.
It seems to me that Julian Assange has made a potentially serious mistake. It is one thing to pass on insider information to embarrass a government—this is something that journalists do. It is quite another to publish protected identity information (PII) (names linked with credit cards etc). This is identity theft, a type of fraud that carries steep penalties in the US. (I know, I just did training in this for my job. The laws provide for prison terms up to 15 years and huge fines). While I doubt the US would try to grab or extradite Assange for releasing State Dept cables or military video, however embarrassing (the Pentagon Papers case comes to mind), the US might well choose to indict him for ID theft crimes affecting actual US citizens. Many people have looked at these files and found their names, addresses emails and credit info (I found a comment I wrote on a blog over my email, but nothing more). And because these activities involve collusion with Russian intelligence services (!) in a deliberate attempt to tamper with US elections (!!!), the political will and public support for applying considerable muscle to Ecuador (whose embassy is sheltering Assange) might well be there. So we’ll see whether Assange crosses over from crusading info hero to common criminal thief and fraudster.
“a type of fraud that carries steep penalties in the US”. Election fraud is serious business.
“a deliberate attempt to tamper with US elections (!!!), ” DNC did not tamper with that election!
“to common criminal thief and fraudster.” Don’t worry. Hillary is Teflon.
A foreign government meddling in US politics? A dose of its own medicine has been long overdue for the United States.
Russia had nothing to do with this. The whole thing was planned including washerman Schulz stepping down. The sheep have been herded into the big cheerleading pen. No doubt many will come to their senses and wake up enough to know that their vote doesn’t matter! The rest will follow the flock to the mind slaughter that is a US election!
If it came from the Russians it won’t be taken too seriously and forgotten quickly.
Imperialistic warmongering as so lustily espoused by your Democrat fascist elite needs an enabling Enemy to function; Putin seems willing to oblige, pre-planned or otherwise.
Is that one or more pack of wolves circling about us? Who cares, I say the only way to set the flocks truly free is to rid the world of all the wolves.
The Hour for Ovine Insurrection is Nigh!
PS. You are looking tired, Ed. Reality bites when it has canines.
The idea that Trump is working for Putin is asinine.
Trump is obviously working for the corrupt US establishment that wants Hillary Clinton to win the election.
They are both in this together, for her to “win” it.
Donald Trump Said Hillary Clinton Would ‘Make a Good President’ in 2008
It’s a charade, including all this latest theater, and will continue to be until Clinton’s coronation.
The best solution for humans would be to cut and kill the internet right now. While you can. Before it turns on you all. That’s right – cut the underwater cables and kill the net.
You want freedom?
Tru Northe, is this your last post before … zzzzt!
Putin is worth his weight in gold as an all-purpose villain. One might even infer that he is integral to American foreign policy. For instance, assuming the truth of the absurdly intricate plot alleged by democrats, his evilness can b e directly linked to his cohort in skullduggery, Donald Trump. For Republicans, who have never stopped fighting Ronald Reagan’s cold war, it doesn’t really matter much after you say “Putin”. After all, using a reasoned argument is the ultimate waste of time.
Looking forward to the next release from Wikileaks.
Whenever there is a “security” breach involving the
fake government of the faking U$A, there is a thought
which goes through my head –
If the people are supposedly the government,
why does the government have secret schemes which
the people are not supposed to know about?
An open and honest government would not have to have
so many secrets. The number of secrets is indicative of
the number of lies which are being hidden behind the disguise
of “classified” information.
Whoever released these e-mail is not an enemy of the people.
The truth shall set you free.
Your comment is an example of why I read the Intercept comments section. Thanks.
> Doubts were also cast over Guccifer 2.0’s identity by his or her apparent lack of fluency in Romanian in an online chat with Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai of Motherboard.
That was not at all a “lack of fluency”. The guy did some typos that accidentally proved he was not using Google Translate (like the reporter did to produce the Romanian questions). He also used specific Romanian characters (â???îÂ???Î) in a live chat and that indicates a Romanian keyboard layout. While most Romanians online are too lazy to bother, some people (including me) care about these symbols above and under the letters.
How would that indicate he’s anything but a native speaker?
Hey, your comment processing makes a mess out of some Unicode characters. Please submit a bug report to your developers, pointing out the above comment.
If it was the Russians, wouldn’t it make more sense for them to hold onto the info and use it to blackmail President Hillary?
So if I understand this right, the Clinton campaign swears up and down that there was absolutely no hack or intrusion of her private, unprotected, unencrypted email server containing Top Secret/Restricted Access information while she was in China and Russia, but the DNC’s server that only had messages between it and the Clinton campaign on how to screw the Sanders campaign and down ticket candidates was undoubtedly hacked by Boris Badinov and Natasha to help elect Comrade Trump? Is that about the size of it?
Yes, that’s correct. I believe this has been verified by the Guardian’s Luke Harding. Maybe Masha Gessen should do a write-up on this as well?
The Russians are coming! Putin has tanks on the border! It’s a new Cold War! More money for NATO!
Yawn.
Really, all one can say about this with confidence is that the source of the hack remains unknown, just as in the Panama papers case, “the source is maintaining confidentiality.” Flogging the “Russia did it” line is just the DNC strategy for not talking about the email’s actual contents.
Yes, that is the beauty of CrookdCUMBERSOMEclinton– she is al ways right and wrong AT THE SAME TIME. She is doublecrossing peopelall the time and the Unify! Idiots are trying to tell us now this is going to change. She has made a joke of the USA after PresObama Nobel doublexx! Iamwith her 1%!
DNC was just bit too careless. ????
The discovery of those emails does not change what is said in them.
What they are not telling you about Shrillery’s emails is that she MAY not have been hacked but people she corresponded with via email did get hacked. So Shrillery’s did get hacked from another server.
Another Exchange server hacked and no one mentions Microsoft.
No one seems to mind “enterprise” software so easily hacked?
Hillary Clinton’s mutation into a third world dictator is complete. She wants to prosecute freedom of the press. She lies or, claims to know nothing about nothing.
And what does Salome Clinton want now? The heads of all Americans onto her TPP platter.
Serial lying democrats get caught with their pants down once again,and blame the photographer for his attention.
And the Zionists chortle at the piker influence of Russia on America,where they control almost every lever of American power.
Lets beat that live horse for once,instead of the blanket protection program of hear no evil see no evil from the MSM?
Just like HRCs racket.
The collusion from the MSM re both is a pox on America.
Selling gifts while prudently protecting America’s Torture Communty…
Ody’s media corp. is as full of rot and corruption as the GOP and that other property. They all have that exceptional something in common.
When in doubt, killing the messenger and conspiracy theories (especially when that pro-Russia Putin is part of them) always work!
Is that even legal? By the way Killary would be in an even hotter spot if it comes to that.
Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth (so he didn’t make his money through hard work, smarts and moral character as his daughter would like for us to believe). He inherited quite a large sum of money from his parents considering general 3% USD yearly depreciation trends, had he actually made any money?
OK, Russian analyst. Don’t you realize anyone (including “Russians”) can easily sense that gringo politics is already a cheap and boring theatrical farce? Oh, I see you are trying to make it more interesting with silly spy stories. Is the U.S. political establishment so desperate that they have to use such b#llsh!t as supposedly self aggrandizing strategy?
I love when, once in a while, they get a hard kick in their pants. Of course, in which other ways could we know about it if they create all kinds of laws to cover their rear ends?
How on earth could the Intercept questions Wikileaks/Assange policy of not disclosing their sources, when the Intercept has admitted that they do “responsibly” “redact” the documents leaked by Snowden in order to not only protect “low ranking” NSA employees’ names/identities but their psychopathic “work” since they are considered to be “innocent” agents (I am not kidding you!)
Oh, my God! WikiLeaks has become “a legitimate target” by the 5 eyes or 5 @ssh0l3s NSA affiliates
So, her grandchild will be very much happy about it and she won’t appear removing tears off her face. Actually, I thought Killary had no tears to cry when she is so carelessly and freedom-lovingly “destroying governments to help Israel” …
If Syria people don’t have to care about grandchildren. I don’t think it is just because they don’t care about their loved ones.
RCL
Getting sick of waiting for Snowden and The Intercept and Wikileaks to release more classified nsa documents, considering that everybody knows it was the nsa who allowed them all access to the documents in one way or another anyway. That would be so great if they just decided to stop waiting for whatever time the nsa has told them to release the documents and started deciding on their own terms what dates they will be doing so, as well as explaining exactly how it is that innocent peoples’ lives will be put in danger (regarding the false premise that a nuclear war isn’t going to start sometime before the sun dies and people go extinct, notwithstanding the [theoretical {I sincerely hope} possibility that some other force will intervene and change the course of reality if they decide to do so ahead of schedule and disobey the nsa. Getting sickening and unhealthy to not bother to check (so that I can feel some vindication for continuing to read all of these documents and news stories) to read other “whistleblowing” archives considering that they probably have all of the same documents posted (even if it is without the full consent of the parties directly involved) on their websites, as disrespectful as they are. When is the nsa going to release the classified documents pertaining to the start of ww3 so that I can figure out where I want to be when all of that radiation gets released into the atmosphere and ocean, or so that I know whether or not I’m going to get gang raped and or tortured prior to my murder so that I can’t possibly survive the fallout and have a new wave of people born of me somehow? Don’t I have a right to know as a person who inhabits planet Earth? Not like I can fly to Jupiter and wait for the bombs to stop exploding when China stops pretending that they’re enjoying the fact that I’m living in their country right now, is it?
Glad that Edward Snowden’s and Julian Assange’s states of mental health aren’t deteriorating the way I was paranoid that they might be; wouldn’t have wanted to have become that terrified. And if I ever decide that I do want to, I wouldn’t have wanted to have become so this early in my life.
Good article and worth reading.
Not living in China that is. For now.
Dmitri Alperovitch of CrowdStrike is a member of the Atlantic Council, which is leading the neocon charge against Russia in extremely dangerous ways. The Atlantic Council has become the marketing arm of American arms corporations as they recently advocated that the Poles purchase long-range JASSM air-launched cruise missiles so they, the Poles, could reach deep into Russian territory. They were giving tactical advice about what targets in Russia must be destroyed.
A pundit noted that CrowdStrike has a definite financial interest in furthering business through anti-Russian hysteria. And that one report to the news outlet was literally a marketing piece for the company. Why aren’t these companies rightly placed as part of the MIC/security state with vested interests?
The article seems to do too much stenography of anti-Russian sources to insist the Russians did the hack and were behind the release of the emails for political purposes. Maybe so. But whoever in Russia orchestrated the release does not understand the political environment in the US and the political consequences of the hacks if they were discovered to be Russian. Would the revelations actually have an negative impact on Hillary with Sanders himself endorsing Clinton? and polls indicating that the majority of Sander supporters will vote for Clinton? There was other than a few news cycles nothing to be gained by the release. The conflict between establishment Dems and anti-establishment leftists is going its merry way and will not change due to the emails. Putin should fire the analysis team who approved the release. (Also, these “great hackers” who left meta-data around to be discovered? Fire them also.)
I hope Glenn does one of his “put in the context” columns. For example, he constantly exposes the hypocrisy of established power. He noted that Clinton as Secretary of State wanted the harshest measures against people who mishandled classified information. Yet, when she did it through her private email server–no crime and there should be no consequences.
But here is the context. Nations always try to interfere with other nation’s internal politics. This is not news. But now, in terms of Russia, the West has what I call “sinister-ized” these behaviors (actually anything the Russians do–those violent drunk Russians at Euro 2016, sent by Putin to undermine Brexit). When the Russians interfere, they are some evil rogue nation. When Victoria Nuland hands out cookies to Ukrainian protesters, appears no big deal in the current context. And the violent regime changes which go the the final point of interference?. Clinton Foundation contribution and foreign arm sales?
The big picture is really not about what the Russians have done or not done. The anti-Russian hysteria being built up is laying down piece-by-piece the propaganda foundation to have not only Americans but Europeans accept conflict and war with Russia. It is a repeat of Bush/Iraq. There will be no discussion of American policy regarding NATO and NATO’s aggressive military posturing toward Russia and anybody it deems a threat. End of story–the email hack proves America must continue and even up the ante (without debate, extra billions have already been allocated to NATO). Support the backing off of NATO and you are a Putin/Trump lackey/agent.
Sociopathic persons like Hellary are always playing wargames, using the populations as their pawns and fodder and always victimizing them and in the case of the US, punishing them for not wanting to be their victim or rewarding them for being their victim.
an enlightening article and enlightening post
thank you Robert Mackey and Erelis
Funny, they didn’t make a big deal about the Russians’ recording & releasing Nuland’s “F*** the EU” phone call. I guess they didn’t want to call public attention to it.
From The DNC Breach and the Hijacking of Common Sense
“a reminder of how dangerous it can be to put blind faith in experts whose claims might reinforce our own political positions, there is also the question of who we can trust to provide reliable evidence.”
In other words, it’s okay to trust and have blind faith in GG or Snowden but dangerous to blindly have faith in another ideology.
Who can we trust? Ask Mackey!
Ah, have you ever looked at the documents released by Snowden, many of which can be seen in Greenwald’s book, No Place To Hide?
So if the claim is made that the NSA is collecting all the traffic going over the Internet trunk cables in the United States, and storing the daily take for a week or more while sifting that huge data pile for keywords, using programs called TRAFFICTHIEF / PINWALE / MARINA, and any hits on those keyword searches then go into long-term NSA storage, where they can be searched by a program called PRISM, etc. . . well, that sounds like a big conspiracy theory, doesn’t it? And without the documents to back up those claims, that is all it would be.
http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/nsa-spy-prgrams-prism-fairview-blarney/
So without detailed documentary evidence from the security firm hired by the DNC to back up its claims, who can say the “Russian hack story” isn’t just another PR effort by the DNC in an effort to distract attention from the content of those emails themselves?
For example, some of the DNC staffers seem to worry that immigration protests by activists targeting Obama’s massive deportation effort might have negative impacts on Clinton’s campaign:
emailid/11927
Notably, this is a warning to the DNC about a protest from a UNIVISION reporter, indicating the Univision, a media company owned by Israeli billionaire and top Hillary Clinton donor Haim Saban, was coordinating with the DNC, which seems quasi-legal at best, and at worst, a conspiratorial collaboration that breaks campaign finance rules:
See what documentation can give you? It’s called credibility.
“See what documentation can give you? It’s called credibility.”
Nobody knows what happened, not Snowden, not GG, nobody. Everybody is guessing. You are choosing to believe one side over the other based on ideology, not evidence. I forgive you for not being able to see that. Our education system sucks.
“In other words, it’s okay to trust and have blind faith in GG or Snowden but dangerous to blindly have faith in another ideology.”
But Snowden’s expose was based on documentary evidence, so we don’t need “blind faith”, do we? Unlike with this Mackey social media stuff.
P.S. Our education system isn’t all bad; Snowden was a product of it. Some take advantage of what’s available and gain real skills; others just try to network with moneyed interests and make the right connections.
Good job on this article. Also love the conspiracy theories run amok here in the comments. Very amusing!!
Oh come on, the only conspiracy theory is the one Mackey is flogging in this article, in the style of the Guardian’s Luke Harding, about Russia being behind the DNC hack in order to help get Trump elected so he can shut down NATO and facilitate a Putin invasion of eastern Europe.
Now, that’s a juicy conspiracy theory, but like the vast majority of such Rube Goldberg claims, it’s a load of nonsense.
no one seems to care Hillary takes money from the Saudi’s and Chinese. Why bother Trump about any Russians investing in his projects?
1. http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/07/25/experts-hard-prove-russians-behind-dnc-hack/87529230/
2. crowdstrike doesn’t have the most stellar reputation in the infosec community from what i’ve read/heard.
3. i almost stopped reading after “help Ukraine defend its territory from Russian-backed rebels”. wish i had. get an editor and spare us the rambling text walls. or go work at an establishment rag like the wsj.
4. the people whining about it are in the media (“they did our job better than us…damn them all to HELL!”) or are public employees. we have a right to know if the assholes tasked with running the government in various capacities think we’re all a bunch of easily manipulable rubes. it’s one thing to make an educated guess based on their generally vile and arrogant nature but it’s another to have it right there in front of you typos and all.
LOL you hired that scumbag writer, Sam Biddle, from Gawker? What a joke. Just seeing his name and face on this site brings down the quality of this site to that of Highlights Magazine.
That was absolutely glaring to me as well, and jumped right off the page. That makes taking anything in here incredibly difficult to take seriously. That’s like bringing on Glenn Beck or Alex Jones. That the author would even refer to that piece of crap as “my colleague” is beyond troubling. Even Brian Williams is a more credible source of information.
That’s bad enough to make me reconsider The Intercept entirely. For god’s sake show some dignity and self respect.
It might be useful to do a compare-and-constrast here – the DNC hack, the Panama Papers hack, and the Office of Personnel Management hack (of 21.5 million U.S. government employee background checks). The central conclusion one reaches is that there are all kinds of vulnerabilities that can be exploited in Internet systems, for example:
Highly complex, right? However, I absolutely don’t trust anything the security firm hired by the DNC to investigate the breach has to say. This is because their conclusion, “Russia did it”, is in line with the political strategy on Trump laid out in many of the DNC emails themselves – i.e. Trump has a dangerous foreign policy involving restoring relations with Russia and cutting NATO funding. Some examples of language in the emails:
“. . . the latest updates on his love affair with Putin”
” . . .ongoing scrutiny over Trump’s love affair with Putin”
The most telling email I found could be this one, a Hillary For Ameria press release, on Republican “national security experts” attacking Trump’s foreign policy:
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4184
The lineup: Robert Gates, Peter King, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, James Baker and Michael Hayden. The press release was “paid for by Hillary For America.”
This not only shows how the Hillary Clinton team has formed an alliance with the neoconservative Bush-era group that promoted the Iraq War, oversaw the domestic mass surveillance program, and wants to restart the Cold War for the benefit of the military-industrial complex, but also reveals the DNC role in promoting the Clinton campaign.
Regardless, the fact is that cutting NATO funding and working to restore good diplomatic relationships with Russia and China is good for everyone except military contractors who want to whip up tensions to justify the continuation of bloated military procurement budgets, which is what the Hillary Clinton foreign policy agenda is really all about – no wonder Sanders and Warren and Michelle Obama never mentioned it in their DNC speeches.
Haha… No.
Are you from another country or just plain ignorant of politics here in the US? Republicans and Democrats can’t even work together to pass legislation, one camp will not support the other. The information from the attack add was targeting what was said by republican candidates for their party nomination during their primary (where they duke it out with each other). It was also using statements of various supporters. For example Rubio would attack Trump’s non existent foreign policy while trying to get the nomination for himself. These quotes are then used later to say, “see, Rubio agrees that Trump has a horrible foreign policy”.
Maybe research some basic information before delving into the Ancient Alien stories.
As for cutting NATO is good for everyone, hmm.. ask Ukraine or any other independent country bordering Russia. If no one intervenes at this point, what’s to stop Russia from gobbling up resources and power by force? And I’m not just talking about military defenses but a cooperative bond that allows quick financial disincentives.
“what’s to stop Russia from gobbling up resources and power by force”
This is just drivel; as if Putin is going to send tanks into Poland if NATO isn’t there? Fantasyland neocon PR monkey BS – you don’t expect anyone to actually believe that, do you?
Interesting how little detail on Trump’s Russian financial dealings are in this article. Glosses over one of the most significant pieces of the puzzle. Surprising for a site like THE INTERCEPT.
There seems to be some of that in the DNC email server, though. A search for
Trump Putin NATO
comes up with 76 results. Seems like the DNC wanted to get the neocon pro-Cold War people from the Bush era on board with the Hillary Clinton campaign, doesn’t it?
Clinton’s plan for a no-fly zone over Syria would bring the U.S. into direct military conflict with Russia, wouldn’t it? Clinton with the nuclear codes may be just as scary, if not more so, than Trump with the nuclear codes, don’t you think?
Furthermore, NATO is an obsolete organization; just as the Warsaw Pact was dissolved after the Cold War ended, so should NATO be dissolved. After all, the Warsaw Pact was what justified the creation of NATO; most Warsaw Pact members are now EU member states (Hungary, Romania, Poland etc.) and the ludicrous nonsense about Putin invading Europe is the worst kind of fear-mongering BS, i.e. the heart of the establishment Democrat’s campaign strategy this election season.
“Iron Felix” is a pretty cheeky user name: it refers to a Felix Dzerzhinsky statue that used to grace the Lubyanka square, the site of the old KGB headquarters… But if their tradecraft was totally elite, how come they left this user name behind – unless it was meant to be found? And the Cyrillic metadata? And the thin cover story about a Romanian hacker who hates Russians (but does not understand Romanian) WTF? ? Someone is lazy or sloppy, and I doubt it is the people behind this attack.
The body count is adding up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/07/12/hillary-clinton-invokes-name-of-slain-dnc-aide-seth-rich-in-calling-for-gun-control/
Proves Hellary’s server being hacked by nefarious forces wasn’t just speculation.
Comey must have known for sure but wouldn’t say it.
No more nefarious than she.
The DNC manipulated the already flawed election process to ensure THEIR candidate was selected. They also hid all evidence that proved their guilt.
For reasons, best known to themselves, Russian agent infiltrated and exposed the actions taken by the DNC. If they had not, nobody in America would have known and they and the RNC would be free to fix elections whenever thy chose to.
Why are the media trying to steer all the anger at the Russians and not toward the disgusting behavior of our political system fixers?
It is well known there is a circle jerk of governments spying upon governments,
in revealing something of benefit to the supposed injured party would seem to be a Martha thing, would it not?
I have voted Democrat for 25 years but have now switched my preference to the Green Party, however as Obama found out, to his chagrin, if Congress gets paid to say NO! then no it is.
“Why are the media trying to steer all the anger at the Russians and not toward the disgusting behavior of our political system fixers?”
Well; the media wants to keep the military-industrial budget up. If we look at top military-industrial contractor’s values: Lockheed ($77 billion), Northrup ($40 billion) United Tech ($90 billion) Boeing ($86 billion), and Raytheon ($40 billion) – well, purchases by NATO help keep them afloat.
If we look at the big media conglomerates – Comcast, TimeWarner, Disney, Fox (net valuation: $380 billion) we find that the same Wall Street funds and banks are the top shareholders (Vanguard, Fidelity, Blackrock, State Street, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Dodge & Cox) in both media and defense corporations (and oil, pharmaceuticals, etc.).
So when people say, “Hillary Clinton is Wall Street’s candidate”, this is the kind of thing they’re talking about. Flogging the military industrial budget increases on behalf of their shareholder’s defense contractor interests, that’s what the corporate media is up to.
Did Assange say Wikileaks was planning to release very damaging emails from Hillary’s private server, ones not released by the State Dept., which could send Hillary to jail?
Is there a plan to shut down or incapacitate Wikileaks from doing this?
Of course Clinton surrogates in the MSM would try and discredit the authenticity of the emails.
Exactly. Just because the Russians did it or even Trump himself hacked into the server, doesn’t erase the fact the derogatory and corrupt emails exist.
Please……..The problem is in the emails not who got them. I couldn’t care less. This piece goes on and on about Putin and Russia and they should not do this. Why?????We also do it. Just like the New York Times or really The new Putin Times I do hope the Intercept is joining those clowns. Or is the reason that Wikileaks got the scoop and you can’t stand it.b