Donald Trump’s mind wanders when he speaks. His campaign speeches are marked by frequent digressions into subjects as tangential to his qualifications for running the country as the ineffectiveness of hairspray in the post-aerosol era.
So it was perhaps no surprise that Trump’s most bizarre statement on Wednesday — that he hopes Russian spies hacked into the private email server Hillary Clinton used while secretary of state, and might make public all of the personal correspondence her staff deleted as unrelated to her work — was itself a digression.
Video of the moment shows that Trump came up with that idea while free associating on the theory that the hacking of the Democratic National Committee might have been ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin to sabotage Clinton. “If it is Russia,” Trump said, “it’s really bad for a different reason: because it shows how little respect they have for our country.”
Trump: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 [Clinton] emails that are missing." https://t.co/4D6idLU47t
— ABC News (@ABC) July 27, 2016
Much of the news conference, like much of the campaign that has proceeded it, was devoted to similar remarks from Trump about what he sees as the crucial need for other countries to respect the United States. Since he first flirted with a run for the presidency in 1987, and took out a full-page ad in the New York Times claiming that “the world is laughing at America’s politicians,” Trump has seemed obsessed with the theme.
Even now that he has obtained the Republican nomination for the presidency, Trump’s Twitter feed and public statements are still filled with complaints about the perceived disrespect shown to him by rivals and journalists.
I was at @FoxNews and met Juan Williams in passing. He asked if he could have pictures taken with me. I said fine. He then trashes on air!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2016
Throughout his news conference on Wednesday, Trump returned again and again to the idea that America’s strained relations with Russia are based solely on the Russian president’s supposed lack of respect for America’s leaders — and not, say, differences over Russia’s support for separatist rebels in Ukraine or its intervention against U.S.-backed rebels in Syria. Trump even claimed at one stage that he had heard Putin use a racial slur to describe President Barack Obama.
“Right now, we don’t have a good relationship,” Trump said of the U.S. and Russia. “Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things, OK? He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word. You know what the N-word is, right? He mentioned it. I was shocked.”
Although there is no chance that this ever happened — since there are no published reports of such an explosive public statement and Trump stressed again that he has never met Putin — the Republican presidential nominee was in no doubt as to who was to blame for such an (entirely imaginary) affront: Obama himself.
“He has a total lack of respect for President Obama,” Trump said of Putin. “Number one, he doesn’t like him. And number two, he doesn’t respect him. I think he’s going to respect your president if I’m elected. And I hope he likes me.”
While it is impossible to say what, exactly, led Trump to believe that he heard Putin say something he did not say, this fantasy does appear to be a common one in the far-right racist precincts of the internet where the candidate gets a lot of his inspiration.
I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that Putin uses the "N" word when talking about Obama !
— Craig – infidel (@kraig4u) July 19, 2013
@FreeRepublicTXT "I bet that Putin and his advisors use the N word constantly when discussing how to deal with Obama."
— Jasper Mallis (@JasperMallis) April 1, 2014
Intelligence reports suggests Putin refers to Obama as that (n word) in the White House as do many Americans
— Raymond Holmes (@rgholmes) July 24, 2014
Near the end of the news conference, Trump was asked by Mareike Aden, a journalist from Germany working for South Florida’s NPR’s station WLRN, if he would consider recognizing the Crimean peninsula, annexed by Russia in 2014, as Russian territory, and would consider lifting sanctions related to that act.
I asked @realDonaldTrump:"Would you as president want to recognize #Crimea as Russian, lift sanctions?" – "Yes we would be looking at that"
— MareikeAden (@MareikeAden) July 27, 2016
He replied, “We’ll be looking at that, yeah.”
Like the Fox News pundits who furnish Trump with much of his information about the world, the candidate also made clear on Wednesday that he holds the Russian leader in higher esteem than President Obama.
After boasting, incorrectly, that Putin “said I’m a genius,” and dismissing suggestions that his unreleased tax returns might show investments from Russia, Trump defended his praise for the Russian president as uncontroversial. “I said that Putin has much better leadership qualities than Obama, but who doesn’t know that?” Trump asked.
"I said that Putin has much better leadership qualities than Obama," @realDonaldTrump https://t.co/cnm2tq8dPs pic.twitter.com/Dz8w87da8L
— CBS News (@CBSNews) July 27, 2016
In fact, although talking points about how Putin’s demonstrations of strength make Obama look weak are repeated endlessly in the right-wing media, polls show that most Americans approve of Obama’s presidency and overwhelmingly dislike Putin.
Obama’s current approval rating in the Gallup poll sits at 51 percent — or, almost exactly where it was when he won re-election in 2012 — while 45 percent disapprove of his performance as president. Putin, by contrast, is reviled. The most recent Gallup survey of U.S. views of Putin, in 2014, showed him rated unfavorably by 63 percent of Americans, with just a 19 percent approval rating. Last year, 75 percent of Americans told Pew pollsters they had no confidence in Putin “to do the right thing in world affairs.”
While Trump takes praise from Putin as an unalloyed compliment, he seems to have paid little attention to another alternative: that Russia’s president might prefer to have America led by an ill-informed buffoon who would sow dissension at home and undermine alliances abroad.
“Trump’s antics have made the U.S. the laughing stock of the world,” the former Moscow correspondent Miriam Elder wrote in BuzzFeed. “Putin supports Donald Trump because of the threat that Trump poses to the U.S.”
And indeed, Trump’s candidacy might already be doing Putin some good. As the Russian state news outlet Sputnik reported last month, a new poll of global attitudes from Pew showed that “Republican nominee Donald Trump appears to be not only one of the lowest-rated politicians among Americans since public opinion polling began in the 1960s, but he also seems to be affecting the country’s reputation abroad.”
“People polled around the world favor Russian President Vladimir Putin over a leading U.S. presidential candidate for the first time,” the news agency noted with glee.
Although the poll showed that support for Putin remains very low in most countries, Trump is seen even more negatively in much of the world, with a single-digit approval rating in Germany, Japan, France, and Spain.
While Obama is far more popular globally than either man — with majority support in 15 of the 16 countries polled, including the United States — the pollsters also found something else of interest in the data: “People who have confidence in Putin are more likely to express confidence in Trump.” For instance, though only 21 percent of Italians overall expressed confidence in Trump to make the right decision in world affairs, “among those in Italy who have confidence in Putin to handle world affairs, 44 percent express confidence in Donald Trump.”
Putin is a world class leader, one of the best, assisted by the most competent foreign minister Lavrov. By comparison, Obama is a liar, coward and boy toy employed by the MIC as their junior project manager. Obama will never mature into a man. He’s ruled by cowardice and ignorance. America would be better served by Putin and Lavrov and to see Obama and Kerry executed for their crimes against humanity and war crimes. That would be the most important step to recovering any remaining respect this fascist regime of Obama’s that terrorizes the planet and wreaks genocide everywhere may still have. And, America doesn’t have much respect anywhere anymore – it’s feared as well it should be – it’s a lawless rogue regime inflicting horror and tragedy worldwide, and expanding its genocide daily. Obama and Kerry are simply genocidal maniacs, lawless assassins and terrorists.
Diane: If I follow your reasoning it goes like this: Putin is a detestable man, therefore most Americans detest Putin. I certainly reject your premise. And I agree with Survivor that Americans’ ignorant oblivion of everything that the MSM does not tell them is mind-boggling. When top administration officials like Janet Napolitano insist that the 9/11 terrorists came into the US from Canada and are unaware that they arrived in the US through standard visa channels direct from the Middle East, other people really start to wonder how deep the lack of knowledge goes. The US is not qualified by any standard to involve itself in others’ affairs.
You don’t KNOW that Putin didn’t say that. Maybe he did, maybe not.
You’re only listening to your own biases and assumptions.
@polistra, I, myself, am unwilling to believe the voices in Trump’s head. You know the voices I mean? Those same voices that told Trump that he had received a letter from the NFL, despite the fact that the NFL denies this.
More than likely, on this subject. you are one of those who would love to believe that Putin called our President the “n” word. You seem every bit as childish as Trump is.
Most Americans are the dumbest human beings on the planet with respect to foreign affairs and it really isn’t their fault. It is the fault of the de-facto state run media by the major corporate news agencies that in my opinion are ran by establishment hacks. Most of them just read a tel-prompt and don’t really do any investigative reporting. That is why over 75% of the ignorant American masses thought Saddam was responsible for 911. Also it is why so many detest Putin when they don’t know the real story of both Syria and Ukraine where Obama has been supporting radical violent Sunni Jihadi groups (to his delusional mind calling them moderates) illegally helping them overthrow the legitimate govt of Syria and Obama intervened in the internal affairs of Ukraine by orchestrating a violent overthrow of the democratically elected govt with neo-nazi groups (Svoboda and Right Sector) forcing Russia’s hand. The Americans think they have this inherent right to dictate to the world and overthrow govts whom don’t serve their interests. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
@Survivor, What makes you think the majority of Americans thought Saddam was responsible for 9/11? That was the story spun by George W, all in an attempt to get permission to invade Iraq, which he ended up doing.
Most Americans detest Putin because he is a detestable man. Your attempts to portray Putin in a reasonable light are a waste of time.
“Most Americans detest Putin because he is a detestable man”
That’s a fallacy. Perception enforced by media warfare is not equal to reality.
Do Americans have the same “detestable” perception of Saudi kings that murder hundreds of dissidents, gays and other non-violent “undesirables” every year? Or Turkish “president” how has just arrested close to 20,000 people on suspicion of plotting against him – now being tortured into admissions of guit while Turkish supreme court works in bringing back death sentence?
These are just two examples. These countries / leaders are generally viewed positively my Americans since they are “allies”. This is curious, as these countries share much less in common with American values than Russia does. The alleged Putin’s crimes (such as killing journalists – no examples named anywhere) – pale in comparison with factual crimes those regimes commit on a daily basis.
How is not not a propaganda war being waged?
Trump was referring to “Nuclear”. See the context of the discussion and the notes, which accompany this otherwise very biased Washington Post Article.
This is the WAPO Transcript of Trump’s Press Conference in which he discusses the alleged intervention by the Russians in our election process.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/27/donald-trumps-falsehood-laden-press-conference-annotated/
OMG, the N-word? Break out the nuclear launch codes!!!
For Christ’s sake, we are all adults here… the word is NIGGER! Who does not think of the word nigger when the hear the phrase “the N-word”? What a steaming pile of PC number two!
Trump knows that Putin speaks Russian, right? The words do sound similar in Russian and English (according to Google translate), but I’d be astonished if Trump could pick that word out from a blizzard of Russian. Maybe he really is a genius.
Or maybe he just has Alzheimer’s.
I thought the Intercept would be more non partisan. They are not .
The Intercept is in the tank for Hellary like 90% of other so called journalists.
The number of anti-Trump articles versus the non-existant anti-hillary articles is telling.
We have a serial liar with a serial rapist husband, who is a a war monger and she acts like a Stalinist ready to purge every nay sayer. What about Hellary’s recent stroke? What about the movie “Clinton Cash”? What about her support for TPP?
The Intercept, You coulda been a contender!
Looks like the YouTube SpamScam is a minimalist tweak. They upload a package of videos, then have a computer refresh the upload date using technique similar to the unix “touch” command so that the package is always the latest upload.
This way they don’t have to re-upload the entire package of videos. By packaging several videos together they can evade Google’s defensive scans by fanning out the various “touches.”
Clever.
What’s all this about Pushkin?
The man was a great Russian poet, and he’s been dead for almost 200 years. Just because the man was a Russian, that doesn’t mean he was bad. And you say he is using calculators to drive bugs, and make them leak? You say he made them leak on the tiki leaks? I rode a boat at Disneyland once called the leaki tiki, and I have no idea what anyone is talking about.
I don’t think calculators had even been invented when Pushkin was writing his wonderful poems! I don’t understand where people get such strange ideas.
I think when a man has been dead as long as Pushkin has, people could have a little bit of respect and not accuse him of slandering Edmund Hillary. For goodness sakes, the man climbed Everest without a parachute. Why would Pushkin want to ….
Oh. You were talking about Putin?
Never mind.
If it was/is Russia that is responsible for the majority of the recent DNC and “Hillary” hack and release business, it pretty much makes Trump’s point that the US has lost credibility around the world.
How is it that our supposed “leaders” are so easily and frequently hacked, what with ALL of that money and resources being poured into our vaunted surveillance state?
And why no juicy “counter-hacks”, exposing all of the dirty business that Putin and Russia, according to our government and media, are constantly engaged in? Could it be because our government and media lie to us?
Can the US gov’t and the media present us, the common man, with any proof of their spurious, inflammatory rhetoric and allegations regarding Putin and the big, bad Russians?…No is my conclusion..they just present more talk and lies.
I do see clearly that the US and it’s allies (EU and NATO) continue to militarize ever closer to Russia’s border..
I do see that the US and gang continue to “support” and supply arms to Saudi Arabia, Israel, Qatar, UAE, who in turn provide direct support for Daesh..at best, this means we knowingly aid Daesh..
I see the Aparthied “state” of Israel getting the full support of almost every single US politician, including Trump..where is the world outrage and condemnation at Israel’s aparthied policies, like we witnessed in the ’90’s with South Africa?…..lets be clear, I’m not even referencing the Israeli war crimes regarding Gaza, etc.., I’m talking about Israeli citizens, living within the borders of Israel, being systematically discriminated against with aparthied “laws” because they’re not “Jewish”…I mean, c’mon, if these are our best allies, no wonder why the world is in the middle of this sh!t-show…
One last question…What the hell happened to reporting? It”s a thing of the past, apparently. Today, you’ve got a bunch of keyboard lackeys disseminating “information” that they either get from another dubious keyboard lackey, or handed down to them by an agency like the State Department.
In analysis of the whys of the early departure of viet nam because of public outcry and protest the think tanks such as Rand were ordered to come up with ways to mitigate public outcry. That analysis determined that watered down or absent public education would leave the common masses unable to read and or compute data. Secondly it was determined that news ,all news must be filtered constantly and interjected with simi truths and sensationalism. Both are in place now and working well
It looks like there is a Denial of Service Attack underway on YouTube. Conservative/Alternative channels are begin spammed with misleading uploads. If you filter the uploads by date, they have the same name and description as regular well known channels. There are multiple entries of the same upload clogging the search results.
Either the upload date has been hacked or there are continuous uploads. Is Google allowing or even aware of this?
Looks like it might be coming out of Ukraine. Some sort of Spam Scam.
thanks paul revere…..them ukranians are just a front for the neptunians you know
I had some IP (financial software I was developing) lifted off my development box. I eventually tracked it back to Ukrainian servers.
There are some crafty folk skulking about the Ukrainian internet and eastern Europe generally.
Russian mob and such like.
“. . . and not, say, differences over Russia’s support for separatist rebels in Ukraine or its intervention against U.S.-backed rebels in Syria.” If you are going to write an anti-Trump piece, Robert, that is fine with me, but you should at least be accurate in portraying the US role in the deteriorating relationship with Russia. How about indicating, for instance, that the US was heavily involved in a coup against the legally elected government in Ukraine, replacing a pro-Russian leader with one having neo-Nazi bavcking? Or about how Syria has been a Russian ally going back to the days of the USSR, and that the US got involved as a result of an extremely ill-advised foreign policy decision?
The US under Barack Obama has been pursuing an anti-Russian foreign policy starting with Hillary Clinton’s famous piece of disinformation about pushing the reset button. We have consistently pushed for expanding the boundaries of NATO to the east and destabilizing countries allied with Russia. I am not an admirer of Vladimir Putin, but these kinds of activities actually play into his hands, enabling him to justify his increasingly authoritarian measures with the Russian public.
When the Soviet Union collapsed, so did the Warsaw Pact. Russian troops packed up and left the eastern European countries they had occupied since the end of World War II. What should have happened was a dissolution of NATO in response, with American troops packing up and leaving the western European country they have occupied since the end of World War II. What happened instead is that the occupation has expanded, and NATO has expanded as well. Is it any wonder that the Russian leadership is paranoid?
“Legally elected” governments are only genuinely legal once the USG approves of them. Otherwise, they are rogue states to be systematically undermined.
Crimea hasn’t long been part of Ukraine. It was part of the Russian Empire from 1783 until the Russian Revolution in 1917, when it was made an independent soviet state, then demoted to oblast. It was gifted to Ukraine in 1953 by decree of Krushchev (former head of the Ukrainian Communist Party). It was an autonomous republic within Ukraine until 2014 when Crimean citizens (the vast majority who are Russian) voted to rejoin Russia. (Apparently the word “autonomous” doesn’t imply its citizens should have any actual autonomy to decide their own fate.)
Yes, as we are the bright shining light of democracy and rectitude, it is only natural that the US be the world’s sole arbiter of democracy and self-determination. Therefore I suspect that the reason we are allowing the UK to exit the EU is to set the stage for their annexation. Should they be granted statehood, or given commonwealth status like Puerto Rico? Personally I prefer the latter because even the Tories would inject what most Americans consider seditious ideas (like a national health care system).
The O-man’s promise to put Britain to the back of the line was as empty as it was foolish. We may someday have to beg the Brits to take us on again as a colony, or at least admit us to the Commonwealth.
The EU is a dying brand ruling over a declining market. The Brits were wise to jump ship before it sinks with all hands lost and turn to pursue those markets which have been their historical trading partners and offer far greater prospects for economic growth.
The funny thing is that EUROcrats believe they will dictate terms to the UK, which offers considerable insight about how detached from reality the EU parasitocracy has become.
Churchill’s observation about the cultural unity of the English-speaking people has important ramifications, particularly as it extends to trade, regulations, and common law principles.
What the EU did was force the UK to drop all those direct trading relationships and submit itself to incompetents. Those closed doors will soon be reopened, no matter what other terms may be agreed, if any.
I rather imagine the Brits will eventually adopt the straight WTO option and invite the pushy, prissy EU to piss up a rope. When London and Dublin coordinate a steep drop of their already low corporate tax rates, the continental socialists will scream like wounded boars.
When nations still aboard the opulently outfitted EU luxury liner eventually realize Germany has become supreme captain of that ship, they may reasonably wonder who actually won WW2. And with that discovery, things may get interesting.
Can’t say it any better than this. This is the principal that The Intercept was founded on. It is the principle that it’s journalism is and should be judged on:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/07/glenn_greenwald_on_donald_trump_the_dnc_hack_and_a_new_mccarthyism.html
Yes. A corrective, not an echo.
Glenn has a sharp eye and a keen tongue. .. so keen (and even mona may not know this.), I think Glenn may have been a ‘stutterer’ when he was little … like Moses or something./
*The corrective in this case to wit: “That is such unmitigated bullshit. .. He wasn’t directing the Russians, in some genuine, literal way, to go on some cybermission to find Hillary’s emails.”
If Snowden has taught Glenn anything about cyber-slouth shit it’s that, in the case of Hillary’s wide-open, unprotected and vulnerable server, there ain’t no telling who’s got it now!
And … they put people in jail for less than that.
Here’s an interesting article comparing the Soviet and American versions of media propaganda:
http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2007/526-invasion-a-comparison-of-soviet-and-western-media-performance.html
Basically, when you see the whole corporate media world rushing to embrace this “Putin and Trump are working together to undermine NATO and facilitate a Russian assault on our European allies” conspiracy theory, in the absence of any documentary evidence, this is what is going on.
This may not be the place to post this, but has anybody noticed that YouTube has gone crazy?
It seems like the YouTube search results are being spammed or hacked with fraudulent uploads.
Has anybody else noticed?
Trump hears lots of things. They’re called auditory hallucinations.
Greenwald has a comment on Trump’s “request” that the Russian government commit a cyberattack in order to get Ckinton’s emails, that resonates with this article:
For those who will inevitably use the above quotes to say that Greenwald is defending and/or promoting Trump, he also said this:
Sorry for the lengthy quotes. There’s much more of interest in the article. Recommended.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/07/glenn_greenwald_on_donald_trump_the_dnc_hack_and_a_new_mccarthyism.html
[sigh]
Clinton, not Ckinton.
My dingers seem to get more fyslexic the older I get. :-s
Dyslexics Untie!
I would but my dingers don’t like laces either. :-)
So many journalists seem to have forgotten that their job is to investigate stories and uncover reliable facts by means like recruiting sources, digging through files, poking their noses in where it isn’t appreciated, etc.
If they had done this throughout the Democratic primary, it’s clear that the DNC effort to boost Clinton over Sanders would have been exposed and shut down, and Sanders would have handily defeated Clinton, the DNC convention would have presented a clear alternative to Trump, and Sanders would be well ahead of Trump in the polling.
That’s called a journalistic failure; but the reason for that failure is that the corporations who control the media narrative vastly preferred Clinton to Sanders. They also vastly preferred Bush to Trump; but since Republicans had a high negative on media during the Obama era (68% negative), the corporate media had much less pull with them. (Democrats were 45% negative, independents 67% negative on the media, by one poll in 2015).
Clearly, the U.S. media system has turned into something like the official Soviet propaganda system, which was trusted by almost none of the Soviet people, who instead relied on word-of-mouth to get reliable news. Anything reported in the Soviet press was viewed as just a tiny tip of the real story, and any intelligent Russian knew this – but any verbal opposition was met with violence by the KGB, etc., so this didn’t matter so much.
Here’s an interesting take on this, including a veteran of the Soviet war in Afghanistan’s view:
http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2007/526-invasion-a-comparison-of-soviet-and-western-media-performance.html
One result of this is that ridicule of media narratives is not tolerated within U.S. government bureaucracies or corporate heirarchies; instead there is this constant pressure to conform, and failure to do so leads to career termination – especially for journalists in the corporate media.
However, unlike in the Soviet Union, the general public can get away with ridiculing the corporate media and government bureaucracies without being subject to FBI harassment and monitoring. . . well, maybe. The Federal Bureau of Incompetence, Intimidation and Iniquity – they’d like to be the KGB, but just haven’t gotten there yet.
Thank you for the post. Good stuff. Glenn is a great interview and even when I disagree* he makes me think.
*I am leaning more toward the wikileaks view of publish it all, but I also just might need barncat to return and (more politely than I deserve) slap some sense into me–or at least force me to come up with a decent(ish) argument.
*I am leaning more toward the wikileaks view of publish it all, but I also just might need barncat to return and (more politely than I deserve) slap some sense into me–or at least force me to come up with a decent(ish) argument.
I understand this argument or, at least, why people have been frustrated by how Glenn has handled the Snowden documents. However, I think the release of the AKP Turkish documents which contained extremely sensitive, personal information of “every female voter in 79 out of 81 provinces in Turkey”, is an example of why it is important to vet first. As the following article explains, it was not entirely Wikileaks fault, yet if they’d done some vetting it might not have gotten out there. It is though, and now these women may suffer as a result.
https://glomardisclosure.com/2016/07/26/the-who-and-how-of-the-akp-hack-dump-and-wikileaks-release/
I really do think that, in addition to the responsibility to inform the public, there is also a compelling responsibility to try to minimize harm to innocent people. One can argue that the Dem donors revealed are not innocent, but it’s hard for me to agree the aging granny in Kansas who donated $20 because she’s yearning for a female president before she dies (however misguidedly) belongs in the same doxxing bucket as the assholes on Wall St. :-s
This is tough one because there are no easy answers, but I think that this argument in favor of full release (no laughing) is persuasive.
If computers can collect and create classified information (I will use classified to mean any information that may be seen as needing to be protected), but only humans can review and release information, then we are admitting that each year less and less information by percentage will be released until such a small percentage of information is released that it might as well be nothing.
I believe we are already at that point. If every person on earth spent all of their time reviewing classified information (lets just skip over that to do this crowdsourcing we would need to release the information to everyone anyway) we could still only release a very small percentage of all classified information.
But this argument doesn’t require computers. The review and release policy rewards the governments that classify the most information because the more information that is classified the more work has to be done to release it. This game is easily won by governments by burying everyone in (digital) paper and working everyone to death.
With this argument, you can also see where the real problem comes from. The privacy argument, while emotional persuasive (and I don’t mean this in a bad way) switches the blame onto the wrong people.
It sucks really really bad that so many people die in car accidents every year, and we could significantly reduce that number by pegging the top speed limit at 5 mph, but very few think that is a credible proposal.
The idea that people need to review documents before they are released is a 5 mph speed limit.
The release of the “extremely sensitive” information may be trouble for Turkey, but it is also a warning for the U.S. The simple truth is that a list of every American’s Social Security number and date of birth WILL be on the Internet even if, contrary to my expectations, it is not secretly being circulated now. And so anyone using this as if it were confidential or sensitive is the problem really. This would be a good time for the government to set a date when it will publish the list itself, in order to force a thumbs-in-the-ears finance industry to recognize obvious fact.
A great example of Glenn’s point about media elites having oblivious conversations with each other in oblivious bubbles is interviewer’s belief that wikileaks timed this leak for the convention.
Normal people don’t care about political conventions.
Theater of the absurd with all the draw of an Ionesco revival (A joke only the bubble with appreciate). A pep rally for partisans, but without hot cheerleaders (male and female, although they need to sex up the male costumes–they look like sweatpants.)
Like what America really wants is to listen to speeches…from ugly people. Hell, I can go to the mall and get my fill of that anytime. I don’t need them to put that shit on TV. The Mall Channel: Coming up next–Food Court. Judge Joe Brown hears the Case of Cardboard Pizza.
The complaint seems to be that wikileaks timed it to interfere with the democrat’s advertising efforts–which should be one of the goals of journalism.
A great example of Glenn’s point about media elites having oblivious conversations with each other in oblivious bubbles is interviewer’s belief that wikileaks timed this leak for the convention.
Marcy Wheeler had an interesting take on this at her place:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2016/07/26/the-other-factor/
The complaint seems to be that wikileaks timed it to interfere with the democrat’s advertising efforts–which should be one of the goals of journalism.
Agree. Afflict the shit out of the comfortable. Let them know that they aren’t nearly as invulnerable as they think they are and that their shitty actions will be exposed one way or another.
If Assange wanted to hurt Hillary it makes much more sense to release these emails while Bernie is still in the running. If anything, the timing suggests that Assange is a Hillary supporter…or it could be that they were just released because he just got them.
Conventions are at best inside baseball. The people paying the most attention are the most partisan. It seems the least likely group to try and sway.
From a media placement perspective, if I am trying to get maximum exposure, I don’t do this on top of a huge media event. This wasn’t a protest that needs to be as close to the most cameras as possible so they can hold up a sign in the background. This leak had serious news value on its own.
I think the timing of this was actually terrible for media exposure. Which gets to my next point–I think the big reason the media thinks Assange was trying to rain on their parade is because they still don’t understand that they have completely lost control of the narrative. They think their advertising and pronouncements still work. They think that Assange was trying to deface their commercials, but no one watches commercials anymore. They are fighting a battle over 8-track tapes. You can even see that in Glenn’s points about timing stories for maximum exposure–as if media and marketing has any control at all. Delusional at best. If there is any lesson in Bernie and Trump it is this.
Look at this place. Nobody is buying the bullshit. They can advertise, spy on us, time stories to tie ins, shove twitter and “social media” up and down every orifice–all the same bullshit–to their hearts content. It doesn’t work anymore.
They no longer control the narrative. That is what this is about. They want to believe that Assange, and all of us, are still dancing to their tune. Good luck with that.
It was an offhanded comment, but it doesn’t help much when the government takes such pride in prosecuting those. Ask Justin Carter, who was just playing a damn video game! Ask Barrett Brown, who was just mad because the feds had decided to prosecute his parents on trumped-up charges because he wanted to know more about Peter Thiel’s company.
Of course, there is no virtue in being unsympathetic to Trump because there is zero chance of him being prosecuted for anything. Somebody with that much money could mow down the crowd with an AR-15 on live TV and he’d still be spending the rest of his life going from mansion to mansion somewhere while lawyers whine. So sure, let’s be sympathetic to him, but only in the context of saying that it would sure be nice if someone besides the rich had rights.
Boy,is this author a hack or what?Every article is a divide and conquer tome to complete bull shite.
Obomas approval rating is an obvious propaganda meme,as only blacks,for the reason of their color bias towards the first African American POTUS,and the rainbow nation fools parade of hypocrites and idiots,like him.
The proof is the world today,and its obvious disintegration,all from his Zionist handlers,who use him as their shield of bigotry,and every Israeli thinks he’s poopie cockie,for that matter,but hey facts don’t matter in a world of lies.
Christmas is coming,employment is down,The Hell Bitch is a saint,and every zioscribe a truth teller.
What a world of shite.
You know, if dahoit turned out to be a Clinton camp operative running a smear-by-association effort, that would make perfect sense. The endless recycling of the “International Jewish Conspiracy” promoted by Henry Ford in 1921 with his serialization of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, for example?
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007058
Add in dahoit’s Holocaust denialism, claims that Israel and the CIA blew up the WTC with bombs, etc., and what do you have? One constant stream of BS, that hits the same points over and over.
What is a “smear by association”? Well, dahoit is right that Mackey’s piece is just a re-heated hack version of the corporate media narrative response to the DNC email leaks, the same one promoted at NPR, the Guardian, the NYTImes, WaPo, and a host of “liberal progressive outlets” controlled by wealthy neoliberal elites who are backing Clinton and who are unnerved over Trump’s recent rise in the polls.
But by putting any criticism of this ridiculous conspiracy theory about “Putin working with Trump to undermine NATO so Europe will be defenseless against a Russian assault” in the mouths of a self-proclaimed hate-filled anti-Semite, it is a way to undermine that criticism. That’s smear by association.
This is essentially what the 9/11 Truth Movement was also all about; it was just a PR attempt to smear anti-Iraq War activists by associating them with lunatics who claimed the CIA blew up the WTC. Of course, dahoit could just be some bug-eyed KKK leftover, but those people tend to congregate on neo-Nazi sites, not at places like the Intercept.
But it doesn’t change the fact that Mackey’s social media-based reporting is a joke, or the fact that the Intercept is running simplistic corporate media narratives on complex issues like Brexit, the effort to restart the Cold War, and other issues that deserve real investigative journalism.
WTC Building #7 was a obviously a controlled demolition. No getting around it.
WTC 1&2 were less obvious to the naked eye, but there is a high probability, over 95% ,that it was an inside job. And it is over 99% probable that the US government is lying about various aspects of WTC 1&2.
Absolute BS from a debunked PR campaign:
https://arthurmag.com/2007/09/20/rushkoff-on-911-conspiracy-theorists/
Over 2,000 architects and engineers say you are wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth
And I also say you are wrong.
Even if Putin said “the N-word”, in Russia the N-word is a polite way to refer to the African-American. And vice versa, the word “black” when referring to the skin color has (very) rude connotation. Russia never had “black” slavery after all.
Interesting.
THEN: “No way can we have a nigger for President!”
NOW: “No way can we have someone for President who some politically incorrect foreign leader might call a nigger.”
Obviously, much has changed. The racism is no longer his, but is being provided by an independent contractor, sort of like the illegal immigrants who work for Trump and every other employer with the resources to do dodges. It’s a flawless moral condom.
Now substitute in your favorite range of derogatory epithets about women and we’re ready to go for 2016. Rah, rah!
Alright, one other thing has changed: the Victorianesque practice of abhorring the literal combination of letters used to denigrate mispronounced Latin, even as racism and even the word itself is the topic of conversation. (What is it in Russian anyway? I tried Googling “Russian for nigger” and got 8 results, none believable. The last isn’t completely inaccurate – “chorniye” means black, apparently – but what do they do, spell it “chorniyye”?) Anyway, consider this in part a test of the local forum…
… And it passed! No unusual delay at all.
The word ‘nigger’ originates from ‘niger’, Latin for ‘black’. If you apply a masculine to the word it makes it ‘nigr’. Eventually it was used in English as ‘negro’ and latter ‘nigger’.
The negative aspect of the word originates from the USA. In other countries, it does not have the same negative connotation and if it does, it is probably due to US cultural influence on that country.
In Russian language, the word is ‘????’ and originates from ‘?????????? ????’. That translates as ‘Negroid’.
When I lived in the USSR the word had no negative connotation. If it does now it is probably due to the influence of US culture.
Your translation: ??????/chernyy just means black.
Removed all the Cyrilic….
In Russian language, the word is ‘Negr’ and originates from ‘Negroidnyy race’. That translates as ‘Negroid’.
This is not hard hitting journalism. Either write about something real or take the day off.
Here is the real evidence…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt5bZoNTNZs
Funny.
intercept writers aren’t interested in readers’ criticism. to keep the checks coming, they only have one person to please. they certainly know better than us what he’s paying for
Robert Mackey is apparently aspiring to be the Intercept’s Luke Harding; this celebrity-style coverage based on Twitter and short video clips is on par with the Guardian ‘mod squad’ coverage of events, but it really just a rehashing of corporate media themes seen on NPR, the NYTimes, MSNBC, the Washington Post, etc.
Any discussion of Russia and Putin should contain some kind of attempt at analysis of the global geopolitical situation. There seems to be a push to re-start the Cold War by Obama and Clinton, for example, both in eastern Europe and in the South China Sea. Where does Trump stand on that? Key issues are who Trump or Clinton would appoint to positions in State and Defense, and what would their agendas be?
As far as Trump calling on Russia to release 30,000 emails, it’s pretty clear that the FBI could have or indeed has recovered those missing emails (the ‘personal’ ones Clinton deleted, which probably include all her pay-to-play correspondence with dictators, the Clinton Foundation, Bill Clinton’s speaking fees, and defense contractors). Trump’s comment sounds more like a snarky attempt at humor than the ‘treason’ that breathless corporate media commentators make it out to be.
In reality, both Trump and Clinton are clowns who are widely ridiculed; but Clinton is seen globally as a threat to global peace, while Trump is seen as a more provincial figure. My favorite send-up of both Clinton and Trump has to be this short clip from Marc Faber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y1PGb_F5ao
If the Intercept is going to follow in the footsteps of NPR and other BS propaganda outlets with this kind of coverage, that will be a rather sad state of affairs.
If you google “putin n-word” you find results about Putin saying he might use nuclear weapons to destroy ISIS. N as in nuclear. You won’t find anything about the racist n-word. Even the information in this article doesn’t agree with the headline. Trump did not say Putin called Obama that word as the headline states. Why does the headline say that?
The tweet videos are so revealing. This is a man-child. This guy says whatever is at the tip of his tongue. No thought. No filter. This guys is absolutely, undeniably, retarded. There is no way his iQ is above 90.
Where is Hillary Clinton’s news conference?
Why won’t she stand up in front of the press and answer questions?
Bring out your candidate that we may know her!
I didn’t think Hillary shills could be beaten in terms of tedious rah rah, but silverlock is moving on up.
Yeah, we got it silverlock, she hasn’t done a news conference. Absolutely fascinating — what is this, your 6th repeat of that “news” here this week?
You know where you could do some good, go peddle this stuff in the slate, salon and huff post comments sections; they could use some pushback on the appalling Hillary hordes.
At the Intercept, you are preaching to the bored-already-got-it.
For God’s sake man! Has the entire corporate media been castrated?
A candidate for president who won’t talk directly to the press?
I’m flummoxed! Completely baffled!
Trump is spanking the American Media and rubbing their noses in their own crapulence.
I bet if there was an independent poll right now, it would reveal that American’s perceptions of the quality of the largest media conglomerates in this country show even higher negatives than Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. I did find one such poll, showing a 60% negative view:
https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/example-of-media-bias/poll-shows-americans-dont-trust-the-media/
The most interesting point is that while registered Democrats have a 45% negative view, registered Republicans and independents have an equally negative view, about 68% negative.
I’d guess that during the Bush administration, the Democrat/Republican ratio was reveresed, with independents about the same. This is because the corporate media is subservient to the government on most issues, and whichever party holds the executive office has a great deal of control over media narratives. This is definitely the case with the White House Correspondents and almost all media coverage of American foreign policy and military operations.
Any moron can see that the Zionists are now the party of demoncrats,and the absolute lack of any light on that,and that their minions own every MSM BS factory,is incredible,and Putin probably got a call from Yahoo,saying;Hands off our racket,that’s our territory.
Trump for POTUS.
I think I’ve heard this before. . .
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Politics-Voices/2015/0605/Hillary-Clinton-won-t-answer-questions.-So-what
This really accounts for the flavor of the election; Clinton has such high negatives that her campaign has settled on “fear of Trump” as their core strategy; any discussion of Clinton’s “experience” inevitably leads to pay-to-play scandals involving speaking fees and foundation donations while Secretary of State, her pro-war history from the 2003 Iraq war to the 2011 Libya debacle to her and Leon Panetta backing the CIA’s disastrous 2012 “Free Syrian Army” proxy army program. She also doesn’t want to answer questions about her support for fossil fuels and fracking, her support for the TPP, her support for domestic mass surveillance and persecution of whistleblowers.
She has nothing to gain from giving a press conference, and everything to lose. Instead, she is relying on corporate media outlets and compliant ‘journalists’ to give her a pass on coverage of these issues.
Vic’s point is that this is obvious, and that most people at the Intercept are aware that Hillary is staying away from the Press for those reasons.
I will go even one step further and say, that she may not give a press conference until after the elections. Why do I say this? Because then she won’t have to promise anything. If she holds a press conference, and they ask her “Will you repeal the TPP if Obama passes it during the lame duck session?” If she says yes, then someone like Warren can primary her on that soundbite (of course she can say, “I’m not going to answer hypotheticals,” but you know what I’m saying).
So honestly, as unbelievable as it sounds, I don’t think she’s going to hold any press conference where she takes questions. It’s just not going to happen, as she cannot give any answer satisfactory to everybody, which she will ultimately renege on anyway.
“Because then she won’t have to promise anything.”
That also means that those Bernie Sanders supporters who’ve shifted to supporting Hillary based on their “we can hold her feet to the fire” line are entirely wrong. They can’t extract any promises, and Hillary will entirely ignore them and listen only to her top donors, the Haim Sabans and Warren Buffets and Denis Muilenbergs and Lloyd Blanksteins, as well as the House of Saud and Netanyahu.
I also imagine any debates between Trump and Clinton will consist of attacks on each other, with little if any mention of their own policy agendas and no specific promises.
Pocahontas destroyed her political future with her naked ambition to join the HB,her intellectual buddy.Another fraud demoncrat.
What losers.
AtheistInChief has it right. I don’t always add the tiresome phrases “and I am not defending Hillary Clinton” or “and I am not defending Donald Trump,” and it would be nice if I didn’t have to, every single time without somebody doing the lazy bit where somehow, since my comment has the practical effect of favoring or disfavoring a particular politician, I can be dismissed as a partisan.
The only hope for Hillary Clinton answering any direct questions is if some are asked during the debates. Considering how bad the debate moderation is, it’s a dim hope. Somebody get the TPP question up there though, please, somebody.
I’m more than a little disappointed to see The Intercept pursuing the same kind of tired, “Look what Donald did!” reporting we see more than enough of in the mainstream media. As noted below in comments, there were plenty more substantive things to address were a reporter so inclined.
I understand that Mackey’s background is in writing on social media, but he needn’t be pulled into the common obsession on reporting – word for word – Trump’s latest outrageous bullshit. This kind of shtick reminds me of the tittering gossip that happens after the middle school bully pulls another in a long string of pranks designed to do nothing more than get him the kind of attention represented by that tittering. Good job rewarding him for that garbage behavior.
I believe the word you were looking for was preceded. Trump’s campaign has NOT “sprung, arisen, originated or emanated from” any news conference, much less the one he gave referenced by this substandard article.
Come on Mr. Mackey. I’m truly rooting for you. I think you can do much better than this.
Pedinska…The Intercept is in tune warning Americans of a grave mistake that is about to be made. Since Americans believe in sing-song (repeating something), it is obvious that showing ‘who’ Donald Trump is will sink in somehow into the shallow minded Americans who support him. It will serve the readers more if you make your comment and stop been a proofreader. If you have an axe to grind with Mackey, please this is not a place to do it…chose other media. Guys like you are always picking holes on something all the time.
the olumba Z comment is stupid in so very many different ways, but I’ll just be content with pointing out the claim, “this is not the place to do it….choose other media.”
Really. The comments section under an article is not the place to criticize an article.
Perhaps it should be spraypainted on a brick wall somewhere?
“The Intercept is in tune” with the corporate media narrative on this story, and that’s not a very good sign for independent fact-based journalism. One central issue is that you can’t do real investigative journalism by sitting around following Twitter feeds, and since investigative journalism is dead in the corporate media world, many people hoped that outlets like the Intercept would focus on real investigative journalism.
Independent fact-based investigations of both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are clearly needed in this election season; in addition it would be nice to see Jill Stein’s positions included in any such comparison. I think most Intercept readers would agree that we had hoped to see that kind of coverage from this outlet.
And the tune is havila negayla.(sic)Puke bucket please.
Maybe you’re unaware of the principles that the founders of The Intercept invoked while creating the site, but a lot of us who were familiar with the founders – in my case, as a reader of Greenwald since 2005 – know very well that The Intercept was NOT created to mindlessly regurgitate what is being widely and breathlessly spewed elsewhere.
This piece does nothing to show ‘who’ Trump is. As noted in the Slate article I quote above, the ability to reason with most Trump supporters, will be ineffectual because most trying aren’t actually willing to address the problems that drove people to support him in the first place.
As for the proofreading, I take mistakes like that – not just a misspelling, but the use of an entirely inappropriate word – as something a professional journalist would want to avoid and/or correct. It may not be Mackey’s fault that The Intercept doesn’t have enough editors to catch such mistakes, but if I were him, I’d want someone to point it out because it’s an embarrassing mistake that detracts from the article, even when the article isn’t all that to begin with.
I have no axe to grind with Mackey, in fact, I actually stated that I’m rooting for him and I am. I want to see the journalists here do exceptional work. He is included in that. Comment sections can be for many things, editorial suggestions included. One of the things I have found most edifying about reading/commenting on Greenwald’s writing is that he isn’t snooty. He has welcomed all sorts of editorial comments from readers for as long as I’ve been reading him. That’s something Mr. Mackey and all other journalists could learn from.
Finally, I’m no guy. I’m a woman. Deal with it, hole-picking and all. :-p
Da. As Putin might say; “this is like shearing a pig, there’s lots of squealing and little fleece.”
*Mackey may be strickin’ with (**only ‘viable’ political parties’) ‘Convention Fever’ …e.g. Obama’s outbreak of soaring rhetoric and audacity of hope redux last night at the DNC was so infectious, well, there may be no cure./
**of course, the pervasive myth that Democrats&Republicans are the only viable political party is a manifest symptom from the paralyzing fear of LOTE thinkin’ imho
p.s. I haven’t really had a chance to examine Mr. Mackey in more detail … I just followed Gee Gee here. :)~
Is anyone here old enough tor remember the movie and/or book “Manchurian Candidate”?
The first film version came out shortly before the JFK assassination and was suppressed for many years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate
Yes. I remember it. It was remade with Denzel Washigton in 2004.
If you are implying some sort of insidious influence, Sharkey’s Machine might be a batter match.
Both are good films though.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083064/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
s/batter/better
Yes,Obomba,the Tel Aviv candidate,with the Hell Bitch right behind sucking on the teat of zion.
The intercept has been hacked.
Posted 7/19 and still true:
Blah blah. NOTHING today about Jill or Green in Alternet, Common Dreams, Truthdig, The Intercept, Think Progress, Mother Jones. and The Nation. How many days in a row is this? This is the progressive media. This is one more reason that the fabric of our society is scorched and burning. This is why the media is passe.
NOTHING today about Jill or Green in Alternet, Common Dreams, Truthdig, The Intercept, Think Progress, Mother Jones. and The Nation. How many days in a row is this?
How many days? Two. This was published here on the 26th:
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/26/the-real-revolution-is-down-the-street-to-your-left-the-green-party-rallies-at-the-democratic-convention/
I agree it would be nice to see more.
But that was a hit piece that oozed disdain.
I agreed with the criticism that was leveled regarding the paragraph that described the attendees. It was bullshit.
But, while it is fair to say that the only piece written thus far (that I have seen) has been slanted – as much of the reporting here is in ways we (the general audience here) often accept – it is not fair to say that NOTHING has been written. That was all I addressed. And I agree with both you and the commenter that that is a damn shame.
I wouldn’t limit my criticism to only that paragraph, but that paragraph was enough to make the point.
Slanted is one way to put it. I would call it a heaping serving of hatred with a side of contempt served on a plate of “Suck This” seasoned with some serious underlying issues.
Where do they find these people?
Still, I get and agree with your point.
First they ignore you…
I would call it a heaping serving of hatred with a side of contempt served on a plate of “Suck This” seasoned with some serious underlying issues.
Well, she did allow an awful lot of the attendees to speak for themselves, something we haven’t seen all that much anywhere, so there’s that. But yeah, to say that the media as a whole, and the tepid offering here, have been “dismissive” would be a monumentally underwhelming categorization. :-s
Here’s to hoping that ignoring us leads to massive regret. ;-}
So far there is nothing in The Intercept about WikiLeaks having just released audio and voice mails from the DNC. Who the hell cares about what Trumpian racist fantasy Trump is spouting? What else is new? What the hell has happened to The Intercept?
It’s been months since I was on this site but several days ago I returned only to be struck by how it’s declined, for instance, not keeping up with the latest news stories. Even the number of comments are in the low digits.
> NOTHING today about Jill or Green
the left is all about complaining (being “adversarial”), nothing more. it’s a childish posture that has developed out of decades of failure. it’s an adaptation to impotence. since it serves power well, it can be remunerative, so don’t expect change anytime soon
I think we have to break the left-right theme down these days; we have the neoliberal left and the neoconservative right, who are aligned on some issues (outsourcing jobs and foreign wars); we have the neoliberal left and the populist left; who are aligned on social issues; and then there is the populist right and the populist left (who want jobs, health care, clean air and water, decent food, education, etc) , as well as the populist right and the neoconservative right (again, social issues)
If we keep with the status quo, it will look something like this, as in Brazil:
aristocratic right – – – – aristocratic left (ownership class)
. .
serfdom right – – – – – – – serfdom left (servant class)
Either Wapo,or the NYTs had an article about Ms.Stein today.
The Graun?The propaganda runs together like a common meme,so I am little vague on which lying outlet had it,the Stein article.
I notice GG has refrained from domestic politics lately,is this an editorial decision?
Vote for Trump.. and not the crooked hillary..
In fact Sanders is better than hillary
What i haven’t seen anywhere in the media is a concise summary of the NEWS CONFERENCE that Trump held. It was a NEWS CONFERENCE. You do remember what those things are, don’t you?
Trump made a lot of news. I’m tempted to summarize it here, but for crying out loud there is a YUGE media established media in this country. Why does it fall to me to correct and summarize the news?
So, anyway, here goes:
1. Hillary has had no press conference in over 235 days. (This is shameful.)
2. NATO allies will pay their share for defense.
3. Trump will stop letting other countries play America for a fool.
4. Students are saddled with crippling debt and it must be addressed.
5. The US should join with Russia in defeating ISIS.
6. France isn’t France anymore, because of terrorism and mass migration.
7. We don’t know who hacked the DNC. It is merely conjecture that Russia did it.
8. If Russia or China or anybody else did do it, he hopes they release Hillary’s missing emails. (partly a joke)
9. Trump claims that he employs close to one thousand Hispanics at Doral.
10. Trump claims that the media are protecting Hillary.
11. America should have friendly relations with Russia.
12. The corporate media are misreporting what he actually says.
13. That he does actually talk about police shootings, when he give speeches.
14. That he feels that most cops are good and do a good job. They shouldn’t be defined by a few bad incidents.
15. Some prosecutor (in Boston i believe) was guilty of proprietorial misconduct.
16. That his taxes are under audit and his lawyer advises him not to release them.
17. The Chinese are shamefully taking advantage of America.
18. Trump does not blame the Chinese, he blames incompetent American leadership.
I could go on a bit. It was a real honest to God news conference where the candidate stood before the Press and answered their questions, with a lively to and fro.
The Corporate Media doesn’t know what a News Conference is anymore. Real news? A real News Conference? The Corporate media are stunned. They haven’t actually seen this sort of thing. They’re gone. They are just completely gone.
15 should read prosecutorial misconduct , not “proprietorial misconduct.”
My spellchecker fritzed me.
Repeating Trump Campaign claims is not “news.” It’s called “giving trump a hand job”
For instance: 16. That his taxes are under audit and his lawyer advises him not to release them.
While you were giving Trump a hand job, understandably, since he has tiny hands, you failed to do any personal research on the subject, as you would then have known that his 2014 tax returns are not under audit, but he continues to claim they are. Because people like you would rather fellate him than examine any of his claims.
Hillary is no prize, and will probably be of little benefit to anybody but herself and Wall St. But Trump has an iq of 65. But you think Trump goes to bed thinking about your well being.
It’s all well and good to believe in Jesus, or Moses, or Mohammad or Vishnu or Buddha, or Thor. You had no choice. Your parents lied to you when you were little, and your brain was defenseless. But to believe in a savior like Trump without question, is indefensible.
I’d go into all the other “news” items you listed, but if the above doesn’t make my point, all other words will be useless.
Rubbish. It’s news. Defense policy. Trade policy. Domestic policy. Foreign relations. Bashing the opposition party ( Obama, Hillary and Joe Biden).
You mean, you really, honest-to-God, do not know what news is anymore?
Seriously?
Holy $hit.
This is policy?
Yes.
Sure. Why not? And Thor is God.
Thor was “a” God, part of the Norse Pantheon. They are still part of our culture.
Thursday, Thor’s day.
Wednesday, Odin’s day.
Friday, Frigga day. (female deity)
Anyway, let me suggest a book for you:
https://www.amazon.com/Towing-Jehovah-Harvest-James-Morrow/dp/0156002108
You see? Now you’re going into detail. So we can discuss further if Thor is God, or if Thor is “a” God.
The above is not “detail.” Hence, it is not policy. It is for the consumption of 10 year olds, maybe.
Read the Wiki:
In Norse mythology, Thor is a hammer-wielding god associated with . . .
Look at this part here: “Thor is a hammer-wielding god”
leave out the “hammer-wielding”
and you have: “Thor is a god.”
See? Not that hard.
I did not make this up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor
Well, I think this one is interesting because what it refers to is the Iran nuclear deal, which most Americans don’t really understand. The corporate media narrative is that the Iranian nuclear deal was a tough deal overseen by Hillary Clinton; Trump’s push-back is that in exchange for the nuclear deal, the U.S. should have been given priority access to Iranian oil and other trade deals.
But, the reality is that without a nuclear reactor churning out plutonium, a nuclear weapons program is implausible at best. As with Iraq in 2003, there was huge international pressure to raise sanctions, especially from Europe. Now if Iran can sell its oil on the open market, this undercuts Saudi pricing controls. Iran also cut a 2010 deal with Syria’s Assad to build a trans-Syria pipeline to bring its oil directly to the Mediterranean and European markets, which is probably the #1 reason Clinton and Obama intervened to boost radical Islamic terrorism in Syria and ignite a civil war.
So when you look at Clinton and Obama, you really do see a continuation of the PNAC/neocon plan for imperial domination of the Middle East; the agenda was to invade Iraq, then from there move on to Syria and Iran, and turn the whole region into a imperial protectorate of the American Empire. This plan has flopped over and over, but Clinton, if (s)elected, might very well try to ignite a war with Iran involving American soldiers, which is why she is more of a danger than Trump.
However, all of Trump’s and Clinton’s pronouncements on the Iranian issue play off the dishonest corporate media narrative, which is all most Americans see, and the underlying reality, the off-stage geopolitics that determine events, goes unmentioned. It’s all a smoke-and-mirrors PR-vs-PR game in this election.
Thus, what we have on point #3 is just Democratic lies vs. Republican lies, all based on corporate media lies.
The ziomedia are Americas bane.
another Mackey info dump, this is like reading bad homework.
Turns out to be an old story. Look, tweets. Global opinion polls. Questionable assumptions mixed with “no duh” claims. Not one provocative idea in the whole thing. Not organized.
Look at that transition from the (boring, old) Trump claims about Obama’s weak leadership, to the opinion polls data. But the opinion polls can’t refute or support Trump’s claims. They couldn’t – they are opinion polls. When somebody is accused of weak leadership, something else would need to support or defeat that claim; it’s really not a matter of polling. Mackey just needed a lazy transition so he could dump some opinion polls in and fill up a few paragraphs as if he had written an article. Just lazy as hell.
dump Mackey, he’s not even trying
I agree that I’ve noticed many articles on Intercept are like something college students fresh out of school might right. Don’t get me wrong I’m very happy to have The Intercept but pieces like this cheapen it. Are they trying to emulate Alternet maybe?
Trashing a man just to trash a man is not news.
If the majority in America and the rest of the world dislikes Russia and Putin, it’s all for the wrong reasons. Remember majority elected two Bushes and nearly two Clintons, Obama in between. Let’s be clear non of these administrations have had good foreign policies and have increasingly screwed the American public by their domestic policies.
I get you don’t like Trump but there is no reason you should like Clinton. So why even bother with consecutive articles ridiculing Trump alone?
Especially with a candidate like her,a career screw up,wo one credit to her name,a bubbleheaded serial lying,incompetent asshole,and not one critique in the MSM,but hagiography,and why?
Israel.
Nyet.
*Still, I too would like to see any work-related emails (subject to FOIA and/or ‘classified’) Sec Clinton subsequently withheld or destroyed off her unsecured server. .. for the whole wide world to see.
The common conception & perception of modern-day Russia extant in today’s USA amounts to being merely a load of learned ignorance, shameless arrogance, stubborn prejudice, functional racism, incontinent fantasy, and poppycock & moonshine. Please, Intercept, show some initiative by dispatching an aspiring young journo to Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan, Irkutsk, et cetera for a year or so and — beginning some three months in, to allow for some degree of acculturation — have him/her begin filing a regular ‘letter from Russia’ so that at least some Americans might hope to begin to understand the people and the landscape. Mind, a big difference with the States that any such young journo might fast have to get used to is, very simply, that Russia is stunningly rich with its culture — even if the night-owl Ed Snowden has maybe yet to catch up with that fact.
Maybe Putin said,”Nice guy”.
“Donald Trump’s mind wanders when he speaks.”
Yes! And, it’s very imbecilic, and/or neanderthal-like. His communication lacks substance. But, to his credit, perhaps, at least the thinking public does not think him an expert on this or that, or that he knows how something will actually get done.
Examples:
• It’s the best.
• It’s gonna be great, believe me.
Can you describe how it is going to be great, please, for gods sake? I don’t believe we’ll ever hear Trump say: “Here is the process I came up with / have in mind for [issue] to resolve that [issue].”
Setting that aside, DJT does have his finger on the pulse of American attention and entertainment. Being provocative, boastful, and an all around scoundrel helps him.
Hillary Rodham Clinton is as scoundrel as one can be.
The proof is history,where Trump has absolutely nothing but words to compare to her many evil deeds.
Robert Mackey should apply for a job at The Huffington Post. The Intercept is better than this.
Agree…
Well, it used to be.
We can respect dangerous and justifiably defensive; we can’t respect crazy and imperialistic. And your President is the n-word and the m-word, which is far worse. Your president is a MURDERER.
And the next one will be too. He or she’ll be a murdering c-word. I am pretty sure there’s a whole a-z of words for America right now.
i would believe DT before i would believe the msm which forever rewrites what people say. DT did hear about the “Russian Job” from the left winger make-believe artists and he responded “So the russians did it? I suppose then they can also get the missing 30,000 emails. The press could have a good time with that.” (or close). SLAM.
Wallstreet msm is having conniption fits because, Donald Dont Dance.
The commentariat has Trump so under the skin that they constantly make the mistake of underestimating him. He owns the megaphone. Even while the Democratic convention is on and current and former Presidents speak, the focus of all Trump. No Mitt Romney could work that kind of devilish media magic.
And then commentators like McKay express contempt for how low Trump stoops to do it. They don’t notice he has gotten them to lower themselves to engaging totally anachronistic red-baiting (“Siberian candidate”, “Putin’s puppet”) while criticizing him for things the voters either don’t care about (Russia) or find impossible to credit (Trump a Manchurian candidate, a weak puppet? come on!!).
Leave it to Democrats to nominate the one who Trump can defeat. Sanders or Warren would be crushing Trump right now.
The Russian release accusation is merely a smokescreen to deny the substance of what the emails prove: that the organizational fix was in against Sanders. I think that it makes Sanders’ grovelling to that organization in caving in to it more distasteful. The major question is do the Clintonbots want war with Russia and Armageddon, or should we, as Trump suggests, work with them in going after terrorists rather than using the same terrorist element which bombed the twin towers to destabilize those who won’t get with the US program as is occurring in Syria.
Yes,the DNC and the HB have been repeatedly caught with their pants down and blame those who notice.
Incredible.
Is this man senile?
I wonder what terror and fright it could possibly have been that could cause all of those people from all of those various nations to respond to such a question so ignorantly asked without any effort pertaining to research or effort regarding which of the three characters really is factually the worst for international progress and the betterment of society involving all peoples of the Earth, and not which has committed the most acts of mass murder and caused Amnesty International to condemn them for illegal war crimes that can’t be rescinded due to the fact that time travel is a false premise and that nobody who isn’t psychotic or delusional truly or honestly thinks that it is best for some people’s children and mothers and fathers to be blown up for purposes of glorification on whichever hypocritical media outlet it is that they consumer their news on due to the wishes and desires of terrible people who are clearly nothing but psychopathic psychopaths whose aim is quite clearly no other than to accumulate political, economic, and social power and control over as large of a portion of as much of a group of the global populace as possible, particularly if enough time is permitted for the enjoyment of such war crimes and illegal acts by the perpetrators and their cronies.
I bet it was the terrorist organization that is the nsa that’s responsible for said fear, or at least a majority of it. Too bad I don’t have any money.
While I agree with the gist of your comment, that’s one remarkable run-on sentence you’ve constructed!
Wow, what a ridiculous article, repeating all the cnn talking points about Putin.
“While Trump takes praise from Putin as an unalloyed compliment, he seems to have paid little attention to another alternative, that Russia’s president might prefer to have America led by an ill-informed buffoon who would sow dissension at home and undermine alliances abroad.”
Yea, those evil Russians are always trying to find a way to take advantage of America. Maybe Mackey can get Joseph McCarthy to look into it.
Though I don’t accept the view that Trump is an ill-informed buffoon, even if one accepts that fact, it is less dangerous to have an ill-informed buffoon than to have a serial war criminal intent on consolidating world dominance, which is an accurate characterisation of the harpy’s career.
Mr. Mackey seems to have paid little attention to another alternative, that Russia’s president might dislike responding to deliberate and dangerous US/NATO military provocations and might dislike being personally insulted as the “new Hitler” by the maniacal warmonger chomping at the bit to escalate these provocations.
Are you trying to drive readers away with crap like this? It sure seems like you are.
With junk like this it’s only a matter until Glenn departs.
Totally agree! Snarky writing and smarmy headlines doesn’t make for good journalism!
Bye-bye !
wow…polls of americans taken in america don’t like putin? how strange! it’s almost as if they watch american cable news and read american sites.
as for trump, if making shit up about russia is disqualifying then we really gotta clean house in DC with the quickness.
glad to see you’re buying into the super-plausible “putin has his hands in every government and election” narrative that’s so popular on super smart sources like Fox and CNN. so very well informed. not retro pinko paranoia at ALL. so smart. and clever.
Agree. Seems wanting to have a peaceable relationship with russia is sign of mental instability.
Honestly, we don’t give a s### about what Donald Trump says. Get to the real news, not this pathetic fraud.
The actual pathetic fraud,documented many times over,is HRC,but pathetic pitiable morons like you won’t see it for the biases within you.