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Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders yesterday denounced in harsh terms the impeachment of Brazil’s democratically elected president. As the Brazilian Senate heads toward a final vote later this month, Sanders described his position, set forth in a statement posted on his Senate site, as “calling on the United States to take a definitive stand against efforts to remove Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff from office.” He added: “To many Brazilians and observers the controversial impeachment process more closely resembles a coup d’état.”
Sanders also condemned the unelected center-right coalition under Michel Temer that has seized power during Rousseff’s suspension and is now trying to install themselves through 2018. “After suspending Brazil’s first female president on dubious grounds, without a mandate to govern,” he said, ” the new interim government abolished the ministry of women, racial equality and human rights” and “replaced a diverse and representative administration with a cabinet made up entirely of white men.” They are now attempting to implement radical policies that could never be democratically ratified: “impose austerity, increase privatization and install a far right-wing social agenda.”
Sanders’ statement comes as Brazil’s elites – virtually unified in favor of Dilma’s impeachment – have taken extraordinary (and almost comically futile) measures during the Olympics to hide from the domestic public, and the world, how deeply unpopular Temer is. Brazil’s largest newspaper, Folha de São Paulo, last month was caught manufacturing polling data when it claimed that 50% of Brazilians want him to stay (in fact, their own poll showed a large majority (62%) want Temer out and new elections held and the paper’s Ombudsman harshly criticized them). Brazilian media spent months hyping the prospect of Temer’s election in 2018 without mentioning the rather significant fact that he’s been banned by a court for running for 8 years because he violated election law (they were forced to mention that last week when the São Paulo prosecutor called attention to this fact in the wake of a new media movement to have Temer run).
Temer himself, fearful of intense booing, demanded that protocol be broken by not announcing his presence at the opening ceremony of the Olympics (he was intensely booed anyway when Brazilians realized he was present). Peaceful ticket-holders have been systematically and at times forcibly removed by Brazilian soldiers from Olympic events for holding “Fora Temer!” (Temer Out) signs, creating international controversy; watching the military use force to silence citizens criticizing an unelected “president” is a jarring image in a country that suffered under a 21-year military dictatorship that only ended in 1985 (a judge last night ruled such removals violate the Constitutional guarantee of free expression).
Sanders’ denunciation of Temer could not come at a worse time for the would-be unelected President. Executives from the construction giant at the heart of the Petrobras scandal, Odebrecht, told investigators this week that Temer’s Foreign Minister, José Serra, received R$ 23 million (US$ 5.5 million) in illegal funds for his 2010 presidential campaign. In just two months in office, three of Temer’s ministers have been forced to resign due to corruption scandals. Even worse, as The New York Times noted yesterday, Odebrecht executives also “told investigators that Mr. Temer [himself] had requested more than $3 million for his centrist Brazilian Democratic Movement Party. As part of a plea deal they are seeking, the Odebrecht executives said the payment had been made in cash through a unit used to deliver bribes, according to Veja, a newsmagazine.”
It’s a bit difficult to justify the removal of democratically elected President by citing corruption, when far more serious corruption scandals are engulfing the person eager to replace her along with his closest associates. But that has been the sham at the heart of this anti-democratic process from the start. As Slate‘s Franklin Foer put it in a long article on Brazil yesterday: “Dilma’s impeachment was a farce, if only for the fact that her accusers have benefited from graft on a mind-bending scale and ginned up the spectacle to distract from their own misdeeds.”
Sanders’ denunciation of the attack on Brazilian democracy is part of a growing international recognition of the illegitimacy of Temer’s rule. Just two weeks ago, “40 Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives published a letter … expressing ‘deep concern’ about threats to democracy in Brazil.” Similar denunciations of Dilma’s impeachment have been issued by British Labor Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, British MPs and labor leaders, the Organization of American States, dozens of members of the EU Parliament, and Brazil’s first Pulitzer Prize winner. So dubious is Temer’s standing that, as AP reported last month, many world leaders are avoiding the Rio Olympics so as to avoid the quandary of whether to shake his hand.
One question that arises from Sanders’ statement is timing: why, after months of silence on Brazil’s political crisis, did he finally speak out now? One of the significant flaws of his candidacy was that he rarely addressed foreign policy at all, notwithstanding the fact that his primary opponent is a war advocate and militarist who (even long before Trump’s emergence) was attracting neoconservative support. He was a candidate steadfastly on message. Requests had been made for Sanders by his supporters to speak out on Brazil during the primary race, but those requests were rejected or ignored.
When Sanders did speak on foreign policy, it was to offer the mildest critiques, while endorsing many of the fundamentals of the bipartisan War on Terror. There were noble exceptions – some of his statements on Israel and Palestine were among the best from any major party candidate in decades, and his refusal to repudiate some of his more controversial 1980s positions when confronted with red-baiting was impressive – but by and large, Sanders avoided any foreign policy views that could be castigated as left-wing or out of the mainstream.
Now that his presidential campaign is over, he is free to speak out in ways that would not necessarily be politically beneficial in the eyes of the Democratic Party voter base. Some of his most prominent supporters have been steadfast in their opposition to Dilma’s impeachment. Whatever the explanations on timing, Sanders’ statement is strong and unequivocal. Perhaps most significant is his call for the U.S. Government to “demand that this dispute be settled with democratic elections” – the solution which a large majority of Brazilians also support as the resolution to their political crisis, but which the country’s anti-democratic elites, fearful of who would be elected, vehemently oppose.
Dear Senator Bernard Sanders (Bernie makes me think of a freckled little boy raiding the cookie jar),
You have been so kind as to take in interest in the goings on in Brazil.
Brazil is indubitably a banana republic but the bananas are ours and it behooves us to decide to peel and eat them (or not) as we see fit.
As to the so called “coup” supposedly going on in the Country, I find it lacks the characteristics of a “coup”: Congress and the Supreme Court are working normally, the media is unfettered, the basic freedoms of reunion, speaking ones mind and of coming and going have never been threatened.
Former president Lula da Silva, boasted the he is so popular that he could elect a lamppost as his successor; he did so and came to regret it, so they say.
As to Ms. Dilma Rousseff, the lamppost, she said she would do anything and everything to get re-elected. When one does that, one has to expect consequences that may not be to ones’ liking. She keeps harping on the fact that she was tortured during the military dictatorship (1964 – 1985) but at present there is no one torturing her except, perhaps, her own wrong choices.
The lady is, of course, not for burning but if one reads her speeches or listens to her speak, one has to conclude that she is non compos.
Instead of being so keen on what is going on elsewhere, Senator, you could use your considerable talents and reputation and try to convince the powers that be to right some wrongs in your own country that have always puzzled me: if one shoots and kills someone in Texas one gets the chair but if one tortures 9 people to death in California one goes to prison and after a few years is eligible for parole. I know states in America have their own laws but some are, to say the least, odd.
The sacred “right to bear arms” is another oddity. That anyone can buy a lethal weapon at the shop around the corner, with results that are often horrific, beggars description. No-one seems to care (or care enough).
Your peers and your numerous followers would only be too happy to help you right a few wrongs.
I’m sure you will continue to champion the causes that matter, wherever they may be.
As to our bananas, we will do our best to keep them in line.
I remain, as ever your admirer.
Maria do Carmo C.O.J. Gagliardi
In depth analysis by Forbes citing the constitution and admitting that there is some political motivation behind this.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/08/16/bernie-sanders-fails-to-influence-vote-in-brazil/amp/
For those who would diss Bernie Sanders; he has held and fought for principled positions all his life and suffered for it. Most are unprincipled or lose their principles for gain. From Nader’s raiders to the leaders of Vietnam, all sold out…Castro never did. Hillary was a Goldwater girl and spent 7 years on the board of Walmart so she was born the corrupt way she is unlike so many of the “Black caucus” who were honest until they got a taste of money and power and did what most do, they sold out. The old saying; it’s normal to be a Socialist at 20 but to be a Capitalist by 30 is very true; in fact we used to say, “never trust anyone over 30″ is mostly true. There are the very rare Nader’s, Castro’s, Snowdon’s and Bernie’s but they remain rare. Bernie is definitely an outlier on the side of the working class and, yes he may be more pragmatic than you would like but many times, 1/2 a loaf is better than no loaf at all; you can be a totally pure failure and it’s always easier to cast aspersions than get down in the arena and fight.
Glad Bernie finally denounced this corrupt, illegitimate and hypocritical regime.
Bernie you left a campaign that won and we the sanders (x)supporters have to ask for a third world country to come in and monitor our election through the UN , yet your now a person that knows something about democracy?!?!? Please go quietly into the night and take warren with you!!! Sick of politics and especially sick of the american shell game…jokes we are
Bernie is denouncing Brazil’s election?
Bernie, don’t you get it the DNC with Hillary the undisputed boss, conspired to destroy “our” campaign. (I say our because it was a movement.) But now, Bernie,
day by day it seems evident that YOU were part of that conspiracy. I look forward to the first hacked emails that confirms this allegation.
For something I have seen so many foreign and domestic political comics about, there is nothing funny about things being rigged.
“demand that this dispute be settled with democratic elections” – the solution which a large majority of B?r?a?z?i?l?i?a?n?s? Americans also support as the resolution to their political crisis, but which the country’s anti-democratic elites, fearful of who would be elected, vehemently oppose.”
Ah, secularism!! The mayor of Cannes is outlawing clothing that is coincidentally worn by a group of people with a history of being discriminated against in France. Muslims are as overrepresented in jail in France as Blacks are in America, French Muslims are the descendants of those who have suffered through France’s history of African colonialism….and now just to show that France isn’t like that anymore….the government is telling French Muslim women what to wear on the beach.
Is your skirt too long? Then it’s illegal to wear it! Is your food Halal? Then you can’t eat it! Are you not wearing a bikini? Then you don’t get to swim!
Secularism.
Shouldn’t women get to decide for themselves what their clothes “mean”? What determines if a piece of spandex is religious or not? Are Bermuda shorts secular? Are Bikinis? Are wet suits? Why do white Christian men get to decide that pieces of clothing worn by minority women aren’t secular? Why do they get to tell women how to dress….and call that “secularism”?
yassssssssssssss biaaaaatch *clap hands emoji* wreck ettttttttt
They don’t decide for themselves, in fact none of us completely decides for ourselves. We are all products of our genetics and our upbringing and we can all be indoctrinated to work against ourselves. How else can you explain an educated RC woman giving money and time to an organization that, to this day will not allow her in the “Officer Class” of the organization. This organization used to use terror along with indoctrination (you will burn in hell forever and right here at the stake). It’s really scary when people who are so obviously formed through what can truly be called propaganda/brainwashing believe they are free thinkers; none are. You can escape from your husband, your mother, your country but to escape from what’s in your mind; now that’s hard but it truly is the only way to be free. Good luck Muslims, Christians, and other people with the outposts of your elite enemies in your minds.
One of the objections to calling the Israeli treatment of non-Jews “genocide” goes along the lines of…
“It can’t be genocide….there are still Palestinians….their numbers are growing…if it is genocide, it must be the most incompetent genocide in history”
Of course this argument is absurd. It would mean the Bosnian genocide never happened (did not some Muslims survive?). It would even exclude Hitler’s Holocaust from being a genocide. “What holocaust??? There are still Jews!!!…their numbers are growing!!!”
Now you can quibble over the scale and methods of genocide, or whether it is fair to judge the Palestinian genocide before the Israelis are finished killing them but ultimately what many fail to understand is that, by any recognized definition, a “genocide” need not remove every single solitary member of an ethnic or religious group from the face of the earth for it to be a genocide. That is just common sense.
I was just reading about Roger Ailes, and Fox’s spying on and intimidating other journalists. (Something that is apparently common knowledge among journalists who for some reason didn’t bother to report on it at the time)
Does anybody remember this:
Remember, these are news organizations that are now coming forward and saying “yeah, I was spied on by Ailes…we knew about the Fox news bunker…we knew about the Murdoch British phone tapping….the sexual harassment, the enemies lists..
…and they defended Fox as a legitimate news organization.
And people wonder how we got to the “post truth” era.
“They were…We knew”…Then why didn’t they report on it? What is the value of media solidarity to the public, if the media is composed of propagandists, and career oriented celebrity reporters that are intimidated by propagandists?
Very good questions. And I suspect it is getting very hard to find anybody who (a) cannot be manipulated even unknowingly and/or (b) can’t be made to look like they were if they don’t go along. Given (c) that the war machine has gotten so powerful and (d) journalism is already a dying art thanks to its shift to centralised outlets, downsizing/layoffs and corporatism, as well as (and not lastly) (e) that if you dont go along you can wind up like Gary Webb, if not just plain dead, it is not difficult to see how and why the media might go along. I personally wouldnt but I doubt I could recommend the experience, either. I, too, find it corrupt and despicable. Propaganda can be terrifying. It is only going to get worse I suspect. Which sounds like propaganda itself, actually, except that that usually also winds up being the truth.
@Maisie — can/should I guide their research, maybe nudge them in the direction of Aunt Mona’s library?
A brilliant article about Twitter:
Myself I still haven’t seen much use for Twitter…a typical exchange: “You’re stupid!…No You’re stupid!!!”
I use it as a news-ticker, but haven’t been enticed to try to say something meaningful in 140 characters. But it’s quite the contrast…going from Greenwald’s comment section, which has always been one of the smartest, to Twitter, where it’s hard to tell the illiterate, from the insane, from the robotic.
Yeah, that’s what I thought, my last paragraph is over 300 characters. I’ll convert it to twitter-speak:
AAAAaaaaagggghhhhhh!!!!
Good luck trying to “pressure” Clinton to do anything of the sort. Leopard…meet spots.
Bernie Sanders has zero credibility on anything but picking out the new curtains for his new mansion…with thanks and courtesy of Hillary Clinton and her DNC.
Yet more asserted, baseless spewing from an ardent follower of the bullshit artist supreme. Like The Donald, you consistently just make shit up.
I haven’t kept up with the terrors of California real estate pricing, but doesn’t a half-million dollars there buy something called, like, a “house”?
Maybe he could get a “mansion” for that price in, oh, North Dakota.
What’s her name is a goofball, it’s hard to even get mad at her.
Exactly. This one is just a raving idiot peddling bullshit like her con man icon.
I’ve always thought the “right to bear arms as a solution to tyranny” argument was the stupidest. As if the constitution writers would have written in a “hey, if the elections don’t go your way, and everything else in the constitution doesn’t suit you…here’s an amendment…now I know we explicitly say it is for a militia…but wink wink…it’s really us giving you licence to shoot us!!!”
Somehow America extricated itself from the British empire despite the fact that the latter had no second amendment. But now that America has everything it fought for…democracy, self rule, constitutionalism,…..if you think the leaders are acting tyrannically (maybe by wearing pant-suits perhaps) then here’s “insurrectionist theory”…a fancy name for “rule by gun”:
You can’t make this stuff up:
It seems that, in the US, you can float from police department to police department (there’s over ten thousand rinky dink ones) not learning how to handle a dog, or a gun…injuring and killing people.
OT sharing: Mrs. Gator and I no longer discuss Israel/Palestine. We have agreed to disagree and avoid the subject. I don’t know how we’re going to handle this issue when our kids are old enough to realize a problem exists.
Referencing your kids reminds me of a new type of article that’s been showing up: young Jewish Americans bound for or in college who are very unhappy that criticism of Israel is now all over campus. Haaretz just ran one, and this from a 17-year-old was just in the Tablet.
I think your kids are quite a bit younger than that, so by the time they’re old enough to discuss these issues, head to college and such, the sea will have changed even more. That may help you.
You could encourage them to research the subject and make up their own minds. Just a thought.
Of course this is quite divisive if you disagree especially when it comes to your kids, but it will return anyway because one or more of yours may aspire to work for them and you may come to resent yourself instead of your kids. Dont bury it.
Israel is counting on Americans to duck this issue. It is similar to British vs the Colonies. As i see it, this issue will determine who owns America, hijackers or we the people. Hopefully your soul is not for sale. Be a lighthouse. The aftertaste is a lot better.
Americans welcome to Brazil , however don’t forget, we are living a coup.
Bernie Sanders buys a $575,000 vacation home and the Internet cries hypocrisy
With damned good reason! His supporters cannot even afford a new pair of sneakers, yet gave their last dollar to this fucking charlatan. Happy now?
Can this sellout really be this blatant about it? What a piece of runny crap…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2016/08/10/bernie-sanders-buys-a-half-million-dollar-vacation-home-and-the-internet-cries-hypocrisy/
Oh for fuck’s sake, your own link says:
The guy is 75 years old with a lifetime of public service under his belt. Good for him.
You are a rabid Trump supporter. Your candidate of the “working man and woman”: PICTURE EXCLUSIVE Inside Donald Trump’s $100 million penthouse: Gold-rimmed cups, a toy personalized Mercedes for his 10-year-old son
Get real.
Trump’s not a hypocritical tool who fucked-over his supporters.
Bernie is and did.
You appear to be such an idiot you think Bernie and Jane paid for the home with campaign funds. Only by doing such a manifestly illegal thing could he “fuck over his supporters.”
And a lifetime of only public service. He never held a legitimate private sector job in his life. He produced nothing. He is like a Brasilian politician, entering politics for the money. Running for president, for the money. Typical socialist.
It’s wholly unnecessary to hold a private sector job to perform “legitimate” actions. Sanders “produces” justice, as he’s been doing since the early 1960s when he was chaining himself to blacks at protests for civil rights.
He did not remotely enter politics for money. His net worth, at the age of 75, is about 500K — making him one of the least wealthy members of Congress.
Sanders is a social democrat, of the sort that runs things in just and equitable Scandinavian countries.
Sanders was a Pied Piper, leading his followers to the river of their deaths…
Hyperbole much? That’s just inane tripe.
Mona & JLocke – Who gives a shit what Bernie Turncoat says? He just sucked up to Little Miss Satan and forfeited his credibility forever. The problem is not Corruption or Bending Rules or the usual day-to-day bullshit of the majority of the nations of the world; the problem is the government and corporations of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA trying to control EVERYTHING. The pragmatic world is about checks and balances and the modern world should be about peace and progress – the US is undermining all of that so that an elite few can indulge their paranoid megalomania. Their reasoning is beyond my understanding, but their intentions and their highly probably results are not. I see nothing good coming from it all as the US elite and their allies now believe theirs is the only dominant voice in the world and no others matter. That is insanity and will end in a nuclear holocaust.
For me there is only one game in town that needs addressing as all roads lead to Rome. The Americans play a steady and cautious game aimed at minimising knee-jerk alarm and hostility from the wider publics of the world, which helps their allies keep their own nations in check, but it may soon make sense for America’s enemies to say enough is enough and force their intentions to be more openly pursued.
It is very strange to now feel a very strong sense of sympathy for some of those protrayed as the West’s enemies, and to wonder which of the others have been fabricated to create fear and a drive to war. It would not even surprise me if all the elites of our nations who seem so set for war suddenly banded together and put us all in the chains of the most hateful of peaces, leaving us praying for war. Suffice to say, we are all being played and where it all lacks a certain genius it sure makes up for it in the time needed to unravel it all before it is too late.
~Mona~ is a little slow on the uptake. Way back in 2008 she was a very staunch Hillary Clinton supporter, and not until Obama became the clear primary winner did she loosen her unquestioning support.
She’s like that you’ll notice – she will defend any inane piece written on this website until it becomes clear that the majority of comments are against the premise set forth by the writer, then she turns to the side of the majority.
She did it with Juan Thompson, the black racist, and most recently with Robert Mackey, the establishment lackey.
She’ll also soon put her finger up to test which way the wind’s blowing, and finally come over to the side of Trump.
It will happen…
Hmm, now let’s see, why is it that you provide no evidence for this extraordinary assertion? I know! Becasue it’s literally preposterous, so there is none.
Look, many people here know me, some quite well. The idea that I ever supported Hillary Clinton is risible. If I ever wrote an approving word about that woman I can’t recall it — she’s long been obviously rancid.
Oh, and about this stuff:
Not even sort of. I still agree with virtually every point argued by Juan Thompson who is not a racist– tho obviously I reject his fabrications of fact. And, I still agree with nearly everything Robert Mackey writes about Israel-Palestine, and also with his assessment of Donald Trump.
Moreover, I have on several occasions taken a minority position, including vehemently disagreeing with Glenn Greenwald and the majority of my usual circle of friends.
You simply make shit up. Just like your bullshit-artist hero, Donald Trump.
I agree there is a timing issue, but there is also a resource issue on our side, and a definite desire and much effort put into making sure we cannot organise against such things by the ruling elites, especially when it comes to our technologies. If we can figure out a way we the people will probably only have one shot so we better do it right. Do we want Rome to burn? New Romans always take their place but it usually buys a bit of breathing room. Then again, taking advantage of that seems to be what the ruling elite do best. Hamlet was educational.
(O/t @OP: I disagree with the tenor of your post. It is a bit incendiary and rude to other posters. It is good to be angry but we need to be better than them or we become them)
Just FYI, I don’t care if his comment is “incendiary and rude,” certainly not as against me. I agree with him that Bernie should not have endorsed Clinton, I simply disagree that Bernie did it for venal reason or that he’s a “turn-coat.”
Bernie has, for decades, tried to reform the Democratic Party, by caucusing with them as an Independent. He still thinks that can be done — almost certainly wrongly — and is also motivated by a sincere horror of Donald Trump.
He didn’t have to say Hillary would “make an outstanding president.” That seems turn-coaty to me.
It was gross, no doubt about it. He’s just so horrified by Trump he’s gotten really behind her.
Rude to you, incendiary/somewhat inciteful seeming in general. I only mentioned it in passing because I wanted to specify that my statements didnt imply I was in favour of violent overthrow… Just that I think we have kind of shown our level of fail in thinking people would be able to do it by the vote alone. I am not sure what sits in the middle other than discontent which tends to build up in a populace. We should have vents that dont make us stupid — or willing to accept poor (or evil) governing like I think our late night shows can make us wont to do.
Unless you are a sociopath, it must be hard to work in an industry selling tobacco, guns, death…
Invading tanks don’t kill innocent civilians!!! People kill…no wait, actually they do. And have, and will.
Which leaves us with…Hey, if we don’t sell them…then someone else will!!!…the motto of every meth dealer.
America, with such a warmongering foreign policy, perhaps it’s foolhardy to expect their police to be any better.
What is it? The Clinton Foundation? A charity? A business? A private arm of the US State Department? All three?
The Clinton Foundation is working with the US government, as represented by Clinton. The “non-profit” is making millions for Clinton, and government business is wired through the basement, along with the business of the Foundation…in Clinton’s basement.
How is a normal person supposed to look at that?
You are repeating the same mistake. Dilma’s impeachment has nothing to do with Corruption, Brazilian Presidents, in practice, can neither be prosecuted for crimes done during their presidency nor for past common crimes while they are in office.
It is based on a constitutional technicality (hiding public expenditure) that was made a legal ground for impeachment after the period when inflation was 1500% and postponing payments was extremely costly.
It is sad but legal.
If corruption was ground for impeachment no president would have lasted 2 days in office, ever.
I do hope they change that when they finally get new elections.
Which looks like 2018.
As much as it is inconvenient, It does seem that Rousseff cooked the books. That does seem to be grounds for impeachment.
And when the most recent investigation into whether or not she engaged in such behavior turned up with no evidence it becomes apparent that she and the government she represents, democratically elected by the people, are being overthrown by a group of colluding right wingers hiding under the cover of an inept media. Sorry I don’t have a link to support what I am saying, but I do believe it was reported by this site not that long ago. The military industrial complex will not be sated until they secure as much resources as they need to carry out their future plans.
zionista supporters always prefer the most corruptable whores like Temer and Cunha, the ones who can be OWNED OUTRIGHT, lock stock and barrel and who are willing to betray anyone and everyone for their zionista moneychanging moneyprinting Jesus killers.
Yup. Sanders is, by far, the only national politician speaking as a member of either of the two major parties (he was a Democratic primary candidate) to acknowledge the obscene suffering and injustice inflicted on the Palestinians.
He also did oppose the Iraq war, but he’s pretty hawkish. Certainly he’s never been a Jeremy Corbyn. Just the best the primary candidate from either of the major two that the U.S. has seen in a very long time.
Speaking of Corbyn, neoliberal Brits are hilariously beside themselves because after all kinds of bullshit machinations, one of the worst offenders — The Guardian — yesterday published a piece under the headline: Double Victory Leaved Corbyn ‘Unassailable’
Whether Brazil, the U.S. or the UK, the world’s Western democracies are all struggling against essentially the same corrupt, moneyed and venal forces. It’s not surprising, therefore, that Sanders denounced the way those malignant factions are carrying on in Brazil.
I get the sense that…one, he’s more hawkish than his rhetoric of late, but that also, two…conversely, being more dovish would have in any case immediately caused the collapse of his campaign. (for example on Israel, let me predict what they’d say: “He’s anti-Semitic, he’s a pacifist, he’s an atheist, He’s friends with Hamas!!!)
I don’t think Sanders had the ability to stray too far from orthodoxy, the way Trump can. That’s Trump’s weakness and his strength. I’m sure you’ve read this:
speaking of Hillaryous bullshit artists – the wily witch of the south has a plan to help the middle class.
MIDDLE CLASS = CODE FOR WHITE PEOPLE
HELLARY IS A RACIST.
Loves the genocide of Palestinians too! hillary, first kissinger’s favorite whore, then goldmember’s favorite whore, now nutinyahu’s favorite whore. Does she get passed around a lot?
ref: hillary favors palestine genocide
You are one of the funniest lapdogs.
“Sanders is, by far, the only national politician speaking as a member of either of the two major parties (he was a Democratic primary candidate) to acknowledge the obscene suffering and injustice inflicted on the Palestinians.”
Ronald Reagan described bombing of Palestinians of west Beirut as a “holocaust”. He also sanctioned Israel for the Golan Heights law.
Georges Bush administration on a Gaza attack “this was a deliberate attack on the site, knowing that innocents would be lost in the consequences of the attack…this heavy-handed action does not contribute to peace”.
It is so funny when lapdogs pick a politician they like and attempt to gloss his nature.
One of the more vicious hasbara trolls spouts off. You seem unaware that Ronald Reagan is dead, and that Bush 43’s tepid comments were just that — tepid. (You forgot Jimmy Carter in your list of non-exceptions to my accurate statement. He’s not active in federal politics as a candidate of any sort.)
The most active major politician from either party, on a national level, to speak profound and repeated acknowledgement of Palestinians suffering has been: Bernie Sanders.
Moreover, Sanders made sure his surrogate Cornel West was placed on the Democrats platform committee, where West magnificently spoke against Israeli crimes against the Palestinian, to the enormous discomfort of the Israel apologists surrounding him — especially Robert Wexler.
Indeed, this 6 minute clip of West and Wexler is fantastic. Only Bernie Sanders could have — and did — accomplish this.
Thank you for the opportunity to post that video.
Vicious hasbara troll!! Lol. I like that one. You are amazing. I love when you get caught and you start mumbling, and changing your lines. Lol
“Sanders is, by far, the only national politician speaking as a member of either of the two major …”
The word “only” is quickly replaced by “the most active major politician…” Lol lol.
The best part about lapdogs is that they will make laugh all day with their weird arguments. I would love to watch your video, but I am not one of those who have any interest in debating with lapdogs. Again, this is just an entertaining experience. Your statement described Sanders as the “only” politician…Of course you believe it is an accurate statement. That is what makes it so funny. I did not forget Carter. I could have added members of the US Congress: Betty McCollum, Keith Ellison…who have condemned Israel treatment of Palestinians many times. But the point is not to prove you were factually incorrect, the point is to have joy reading a typical lapdog investing her time defending an inaccurate statement that I really do not give a shit about.
You are welcome. My pleasure to help those who keep a smile on my face.
Not “replaced by.” In addition to. He is the only, which by definition also makes him the most active. The stupid non-examples you offered in a feeble attempt to contradict me failed for reasons I already stated.
Keith Ellison is actually pretty careful, walking a very fine line so as not to overly offend the strong Israel Lobby. Bernie clearly decided not to give a fuck during his campaign and his choice of Cornel West on the platform committee. No one else among national politicians from either major party has done anything even approaching that level of courage and honesty on the Palestinian issue.
Well you sort of have to say that, since you failed.
By the way, it’s my habit to ignore 95% of personal insults directed at me. Stupidity about lapdogs, and the other crap you and others hurl at me. I get stuff about having been a Catholic in my youth, lawyer put-downs, vicious mental health assessments, and all kinds of other ad hominems and juvenile non sequiturs, so you aren’t alone. Your shtick about being here only to laugh and be entertained is not new, either.
No one intelligent and whose opinion I care about would pay it any attention. So, I very seldom substantively reply.
“I very seldom substantively reply.”
Lol lol lol lol lol
Why should there be new elections when Rousseff is the legitimate president? She should be restored to her legitimate office and Temer should be put on trial for corruption. In the next regularly scheduled election, the traitors and thieves must be ejected from legislative office.
Well,as I’m positive HRC is fully on board this undemocratic action in
Brazil,he’s giving her cover,that’s all.
Exactly. He doesn’t go far enough. He should ask for restoration of the legitimate president, not an “election” brought on by the extra-legal yankee-instituted coup.
But that’s what many Brazilians want, and I believe Dilma has also endorsed it. Glenn Greenwald has also expressed a preference for a new election, or at least written favorably of the idea. Many (actual, not notional) progressives have, which puts Bernie entirely within the range of views held by decent people.
Apparently Clinton is upset about a veiled death threat from Trump……Let’s take a walk down “assassination memory lane”.
What ever happened to Bob Beckel, the “angry liberal” who called for the Wikileaks founder to be “illegally killed”?….why he’s been hired by the “liberal media” at CNN…
Sorry? What was CNN saying about those awful Republicans and death threats against Clinton????
Even more to the point was the Harpy’s own statement in June, 2008, that, despite losing, she was keeping her campaign going because a “Robert Kennedy” event might eliminate Obama. That wasn’t even a veiled threat, but an actual one. This should be brought out by the alternative media (since the official media is, Goebbels-like,. fully in the bag for the Harpy) Along with the Dr. Morell ex-CIA director and Clinton flunkey statement noted in Hussain Murtaza’s article discussing Morell’s advocacy of covert liquidations of Iranians and Russians inconvenient to the yankee regime, we have the stench of gangster fascism emanating from Washington. Meanwhile, Sanders should have demanded the restoration of Rousseff, not an election which would legitimise the coup. No more accommodation with fascism.
American imperialism knows no party, as the socialist Bernie Sanders makes evident when he calls for intervention against the legal proceedings of foreign countries as soon as they aren’t in lockstep with his ideology. There are several inconsistencies in this article that I want to address.
First of all, Temer was elected. The dozens of millions of brazilians who voted for Dilma also voted for Temer, since they ran together. Furthermore, both parties allied with each other of their own will, so he didn’t force himself as her vice president. Finally, if you understand anything about brazilian politics, then drop the pretenses and admit that PT wouldn’t have won the election if it wasn’t allied with PMDB. The election was such a close call that it’s obvious that they needed PMDB, so Temer was essential for Dilma to be able to be elected at all. Temer isn’t an unelected president, he’s an elected vice-president exercising his position in a legal manner.
Second, it’s true that Temer has a very low popularity, but so does Dilma. Wanting him to go is not the same as wanting Dilma to come back. Keep that difference in mind.
Third, PMDB isn’t center-right, much less “far right”. It’s center at best, but it would be more accurate to describe it as a party without ideology.
Fourth, Brazil is broke, a direct result from PT’s governance, who single handedly destroyed the economy and fomented corruption like no other government has ever done. Spending increased at an enormous rate under PT’s government, something that was only possible with constant growth. Brazil is currently going through its worst economic crisis ever, so it’s impossible to shoulder that anymore. If spending isn’t decreased, then Brazil breaks in a much uglier way.
As someone who loves to meddle in American politics, I’ve got to stand up for my Bernie Bro, Sanders. I love all the new opinions, apparently Greenwald is just as effective as disturbing the excrement in Brazil as he is in America.
I’d have to disagree with the thought that Sanders is in lockstep with imperialism though. Clinton, from everything we know about her…she’d be the first to back the coup. America doesn’t just intervene randomly. America intervenes to put right wing, military or oligarchs into power. America intervenes to stop social justice, equality, democracy. Clinton wouldn’t want to help the left wing in Brazil, But Sanders, he’s been pretty consistently anti-imperialist, going back decades. He’s on record as against previous interventions in Latin America.
It is curious though, that Sanders seems concerned about the undemocratic machinations in Brazil, but he won’t dare challenge Clinton’s corruption. Unless his real concern is to use the Brazil situation as a means to ward of future action by the US congress against a future Clinton presidency…take this part of Sanders’ statement:
“first female president”….That could be the template of a defence against a Republican impeachment of Clinton. Perhaps Sanders sudden interest in Brazil is not so much about Brazil, as it is about Clinton.
There have been other times when Bernie Sanders has favored intervention, but this time you’re just making it up.
Like a true socialist, Mr. Sanders is obvioulsy biased on his comments. Therefore unable to accept the impeachment as a democratic tool, which is exactly what my country is applying to get rid of the most incompetent president ever. She along with her corrupt party have plunged the country into a profound crisis never seen before. I’m not saying the new president is or will be better, but Ms Rousseff’s deposition is actually long overdue.
Stop listening to Globo. Every time I see a right-wing pundit say that the worker’s party put Brazil in the “worst crisis in Brazilian history” I know they are full of shit. ANYONE can easily refute that. And not even with the “PT-bought United Nation’s statistics”, but with the FREAKING WORLD BANK.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locations=BR
As anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see, the Brazilian GDP QUADRUPLED in Lula’s rule. While in the FHC rule it DECREASED from 558 Billion when he took office in 1994 to 507 Billion when he left office in 2002.
Heck, you can see FHC dropping the economy by FOURTY TWO PERCENT during his mandate and you still hail him as a master economist. Dilma’s mandate has a dip of 33% and you call her the worst thing to ever happen to Brazil. You are all hypocrites.
sanders is as dumb as trump. he just talks nonsense about Brazil
Why I am not surprised that glenn is the one behind this?
It’s not that difficult to guess.
I’d like to apologize to the American people. People that I love, that I cherish and respect but as a Brazilian I would like to send a message to Mr. Senator Burnie Sanders about what he talked of the impeachment of Dilma Rousseff:
Mr. Sanders, you should not interfere in Brazilian politics because you are a political illiterate in relation to Brazil.
Brazilian legal institutions are not corrupted and I think that you must the check the allegations of corruption in democrat party and her election partner. You are just a communist disguised of socialist facade with pretension to help the World Elite to deploy a single world government.
The impeachment of Rousseff is not a coup. This is communist fallacy. Rousseff and her party destroyed Brazil. They deceived the world and a small part of the population who still believed in her.
But I will also not leave to consider the possibility of external interference of World Elite to Brazil have reached the bottomed out.
So, you must Concern yourself with your party and the US deficit of more than 17 trillion dollars in which I suspect was used for other purposes and that the US government hides from his people and the world population.
Another thing:
You do not know what is the far right-wing party when you said that Brazil is likely to have a far right-wing party.
The communists and socialists destroyed the right-wing party Brazilians.
A decent country, consist in Right-wing parties and Left-wing parties like in your country and if God willing, will be governed by Mr. Donald Trump who has an essential quality: sincerity in his speech.
Unfortunately, Brazil has never been a priority partner of the USA because the US government never trusted in Brazil as a partner because our left-wing politicians reject the capitalist system of the USA.
You also know very well that priority American partners are the United Kingdom and its colonies followed by others that be suited to the USA …
You should be ashamed of not knowing what is happening in the South America.
As a Brazilian, I hope to see emerge a moderate right-wing party in my country …
Some Brazilians are afraid of Mr. Trump because he’s a capitalist symbol that they hate. They want to live in the socialist spree with the help of the government while the left-wing parties steals the Brasil.
Mr. Sanders, retire and go to Florida. It will certainly be the best for you.
Thanks.
Paulo C. C. Santos
Mentality of Bernie Bashers
“JESUS came to save us. Instead of saving us, he sacrificed himself for us. WTF is up with that? JESUS betrayed us. JESUS was a phony. We followed JESUS around for all that time, and then he became the Pied Piper and led us to our deaths.”
Now replace JESUS with BERNIE.
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sFar an “atheist,” you seem to have a slight dis-connect.
IF Jesus existed, he was a sweet person.
Bernie Sanders is, like Jesus, of jewish ancestry, but
Bernie is more interested in being a compliant “democrat”
and that is, in this day and age,
not really about compassion and forgiveness, but
it is about a scheme of global economic domination
through the use of militarized capitalist force.
Are you suggesting that Jesus was a Neoliberal/Neoconservative
and
if so,
does that mean that a-theism is based upon god-less economics?
Your brain is too complicated for me. Let me apologize, as I am unable to follow completely, and it’s really late so I’m not going to try.
I didn’t say that Jesus was real. I was talking about the mentality of Bernie bashers. I used Jesus as an example. Nothing more.
And I don’t know if you reside in Bernie’s head, but I have yet to hear anything said by Bernie, that suggests he’s being compliant. I’ve only heard him say that he cannot abide a Trump presidency. So I’m going to take him at his word, and not base my opinion of your crackpot theories about Bernie.
Good night!
on* your crackpot theories.
You make a very interesting point.
Your equating of Jesus and Bernie Sanders
does not make either of them real.
“IF”?
There is absolutely no doubt about the existence of the historical person called Jesus. Ask any capable historian.
Most of what is believed about Jesus was written
decades after he had died. I know it may be hard to comprehend,
but there is a plethora of examples of people re-writing
history in order to promote an agenda.
Jesus may have been a man who became a myth
full of miraculous fantasies based in superstition and scheming.
Who has a sample of DNA from Jesus?
This is a trick question because IF someone believes that
Jesus was THE god, then it would follow that ALL DNA is
the DNA of Jesus and that would include Osama Bin Laden.
So, celebrating the murder of Osama or anyone else, as is
popular with so many people, is also a celebration of
killing some of the DNA of Jesus.
dear clark I always
knew you were a
moron but when you
demand a sample of
DNA from Jesus
as proof of his existence as
a merely historical rather than
divine figure, I have
to wonder if
I was really over- rather than
under- estimating
you. DNA was identified from
the late 1800s to the early
1900s. No DNA samples exist
from almost any historical figures from
200 years ago, much less
2000 years ago. You are
a fucking idiot to think
that DNA is going to settle the
question of Jesus anyway, because
there is no “DNA of Jesus” — the
man historically had no descendents
and therefore we would not even
be able to identify the DNA
of Jesus were we to
hold it in our hands.
Speaking of fucking idiots, DNA is not limited to the
last 200 years AND
my point, Mr. Dimshit
is that IF Jesus is god, then every being has the DNA of Jesus
because god (they tell me) created everything from himself
or itself.
I didn’t even mention the “killing some of the DNA of Jesus” bit, that was hilarious. DNA isn’t alive.
Your weird god’s DNA argument could conceivably apply to Adam though, since he is supposed to be the first human in Christian mythology. The tradition doesn’t even have Jesus fathering any children.
No, “they” don’t say god created everything “from himself” as in a cloning laboratory. That would be a new creation myth, not the old one, which involved clay.
Why exactly a Christian would be impressed with your argument I have no idea. “Looking for God’s DNA? It’s all God’s DNA — you are looking at it.” Pretty easy comeback I would think.
Lovely piece of writing! Short, sweet, to the point/ and on the money. Cha-ching!
Indeed, Greenwald is a genius. He can spend years blaming the US for intervening in other countries’ affairs while subtly ignoring the arrogance and the blatant interference of an American politician “DEMANDING” that a sovereign state follows what he wishes.
And he does not even have to tell the truth to obtain the support of his lapdogs.
“Sanders also condemned the unelected center-right coalition under Michel Temer that has seized power during Rousseff’”
“Unelected ” lol lol
This the best site ever!
Yes, DEMANDING.. I know you are shocked, usually the us remove those unwanted unelected or elected officials either directly or via proxy.
Shocked? ? For what exactly?
Because a high level polítician of a state with a history of imperialism is “demanding” that the ELECTED leaders of a sovereign state the US destabilized in the past to do as he pleases or because Greenwald’s lapdogs (you) suddenly disregard US interference in other countries’ affairs?
I see many reasons to laugh. I do not see anything shocking at all.
You are (an exceptionally vicious) hasbara troll, who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about imperialism. (Readers can scroll to the highlighted grey comment here to learn what a hasbara troll is.) Nor do you really believe that Sanders remarks constitute imperialist behavior.
You are a hasbara troll, as has been obvious since you showed up here a few months ago with multiple accounts.
Now you’re adding silly name-calling rants about various topics to your repertoire of rabid spewing in defense of the ethno-religious supremacist state you so adore, Israel.
The funny part about your rant is that I really did not get anything about it. Lol lol
Mona, if you know this person is a troll, then don’t even spend your time on them, or else it ends up you who looks (at least in appearance, if not in fact, as someone who does not see you as one,), to be the hypocrite. When you work hard to acquire a moral high ground, why just give it away at a moment’s notice? I-D-G-it. Most (90%+) of the time, no one takes these “trolls” seriously until you or gigi engage with them and them people take them seriously by association… since there is an association to be made, by mutual example.
That’s a good advice to those with self control and proper analytical skills. Lapdogs do not fall into that category.
You can at least admit it is entertaining for someone to call others trolls and keep writing them.
About when she keeps writing them even when those she calls trolls ask her to ignore their comments? Still not funny?
About that one? Stating that “she knew me” I want to “harm” her after I wrote I have no interest in debating with her or anybody here?
Lack of self control is hilarious to me.
“Troll” is the new “anti-american” (esp. when used to refer to actual american-born people) in that it ends up being used in practice to mean “people I disagree with” (and don’t plan to engage with ‘on the level’).
Seems pretty true to me. Beautiful and brilliant internet strangers full of disjointed and hyperbolic opinions notwithstanding.
“Beautiful and brilliant ” Yes!!!
“Take it,- and like it!”
“a tactic similar to past U.S. action in Central and South American countries to impeach left-wing parties. Examples include the coup orchestrated by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to oust the elected President of Honduras Mr. Manuel Zelaya, the tentative removal of elected Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in 2002″
Found this interesting tidbit. I wasn’t aware that Clinton has a past history of staging coups against South American leaders.
http://www.coha.org/wikileaks-uncovers-interim-president-temer-as-former-u-s-informant/
And that Temer was an informer for the USG. I wonder if Bernie knows something we don’t know about Clinton and has been keeping it to himself until after the primaries.
This is a speculation to be sure, but Clinton has traveled to Brazil 4 times as Secretary of State.
March 2010
Jan 2011
April 2012
June 2012
An Unacceptable Interference in Brazilian Internal Affairs
Yesterday, senator Bernie Sanders made statements on his website regarding the Brazilian internal affairs that I, as a Brazilian citizen, consider to be unacceptable. In addition to constitute a clear interference in the internal affairs of the country, and therefore an assault on our sovereignty, the statements of Mr. Sanders are untrue and demonstrate a complete ignorance that the socialist senator, defeated in the primaries of his party, has about the Brazilian political and legal reality.
First of all, it is necessary to make clear that the Brazilian impeachment process is not and never was a coup d’état. On the contrary, the impeachment is in full compliance with the Brazilian Federal Constitution. The claim that it is a coup d’état is a lie invented by the Brazilian left-wing for purposes of political warfare only. If Mr. Sanders repeated this lie, it means he took a side in this war, and not that he is really concerned with the preservation of democracy in our country. And it should be remembered to Mr. Sanders that the Brazilian political tradition and our imaginary and our culture does not embrace the idea of adopting racial criteria for the formation of a government. This is a kind of practice that he, Mr. Sanders, and his leftist party advocate and practice in United States, in order to encourage racial conflicts.
Finally, if Mr. Bernie Sanders is really concerned about the defense of democracy and the right of the people of each country to freely choose their government through fair elections, I suggest that he recommends the realization of clean and democratic elections in countries such as Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea and Palestine, which are socialist dictatorship regimes or dictatorships imposed by Muslim terrorists groups, who never had any commitment to democracy. But I believe it is unlikely that Mr. Sanders will do such recommendation, since these dictatorships were born and are still alive inspired by the same authoritarian and antidemocratic ideology that Mr. Sanders embraces and endorses. – Paulo Eneas
“It is democratic because it is stopping COMMUNISHM!”
The war cry of the completely delusional.
Go to the arms of your dear Bolsonaro. Your type also defend the coup of 1964 as constitutional. All it matters is that it fights COMMUNISHM!
And it is grand how you always have Cuba and Venezuela to pull from the pocket, when Bernie Sander’s reforms would pass for a extreme-right-wing lunatic in these pockets of poverty that are Sweden, France, Germany and Norway.
Perfect.
Bernie’s statement is misdirection. By demanding that the US government oppose Dilma’s ouster, he strongly implies that the US (and its banks) had no involvement with the impeachment.
If Clinton still used email, she would write, “Thanks for taking the heat off of Goldman, Bern, I mean Labor Secretary Sanders. LOL.”
lol!! You nailed it – it’s total misdirection.
Sometimes notions are counter-intuitive for a reason.
So right you are about the notion that a 25-year veteran of Congress represents the people over the establishment.
What is so special about government jobs in particular? Personally dude I think you are not radical enough by far in your thinking.
I think anybody who has held any job for over 25 years is kind of suspect, you know what I mean? I think they were just working for a paycheck or something — they are probably IN ON IT.
Too bad Bernie Sander’s comments are going to be entirely ignored by the candidate he supports. Just look at what the U.S. State Department says about Brazil’s coup:
Obviously the best way to rid the world of political assassinations which gets complicated (US Hillary Obama TPP Corpo-rats getting their political whores getting their CIA gofers to assassinate leaders they dont like) instead the US Hillary Obama TPP corpo-rats get a supreme court rat to call corpo-rats people to call money=speech to get money into politics to instead just buy the one they like.
Hillary’s support for the murder of hundreds for the coup in Honduras shows that her body may resemble a human person, but her soul certainly does not.
Donald Trump, imo, is not a republican. He is a Libertarian. Jill Stein is hopefully similar.
If you want an insight into America with Hillary, look no farther than Angela Merkel.
Trump,thank the Lord,is not an ideologue,and as a smart human,he finds answers in different places on the ideological menu.
He’s right of course, but the only significance is that his remarks bring attention to the unfair and manipulative actions by Brazil’s smug elite.
Everything Sanders says has ick all over it since he proclaimed Hillary Clinton will “make an outstanding president.” It shows he’s quite capable of dropping his principles when he deems it necessary.
The self-exalted “feminists” of the US establishment should *all* be defending Brazil’s first female president – and the fact that very little is being said in Washington (or the White House) about this glaringly obvious and easily scorned intimidation, propaganda and right-wing takeover is extremely suspicious – pointing to US establishment complicity with it if only through silence.
Bernie could have fought for us when the Democrats disenfranchised millions of Americans, whited out our ballots, and flipped our votes to Hillary.
He didn’t.
It’s time for Jill Stein.
Bernie was nothing more than a cheap charlatan, employed to lure the young and disaffected out from their hiding places to put their trust back into the Democratic Party. As an Independent, he had every opportunity to take Clinton down for her nefarious activities, but always refused, preferring to take the ‘high road’ instead. What kind of presidential candidate trying to really win does something so stupid? A PHONY presidential candidate. He was used to bring that faction back into the party, and for the most part was successful. After all, the only other choice is a racist fascist misogynist crying-baby-hater – Donald Trump.
So, FUCK BERNIE SANDERS and all the fools who believed in him.
I could not care less for him or them, or anything he may try to do to get back his “Independent” reputation…
eh, Bernie is alright…
Why is this guy still talking? He gave his support to Hillary, sold out, let her do the talking.
Ha! Maybe we should act surprised when Hillary delivers the coup-ish, pro-exploitation, pro-corruption and pro-austerity elements in Brazil a “happy ending.” You know, similar to the one enjoyed by Honduras’ junta after their coup. Then, I suppose, we can act doubly surprised when foreign (non-Brazillian) vulture funds squeeze Brazil into another Greece, Argentina or Puerto Rico.
I tried to act surprised when Bernie threw his supporters under a bus, just like I’ll pretend I’m surprised when Trump does the same.
When Argentina paid the vulture funds, I understand those funds ended up making 1000% of profit. That’s not even the worst thing Macri has done in less than one year of government.
Well, if you count the amount of pre-salt exploration rights already sold by the interim government, you’re looking into similar profits. An area with an estimated value of US$ 20.000.000.000,00 (twenty billion) was sold for about 10% of that value to Norwegian oil companies. Remembering that 25% of the profits from that area would have gone to fund public education in Brazil, but if it is sold there’s absolutely no legally binding requisite to do so. (Presumably, that Norwegian oil company also filled the pockets of the congressmen who approved the sale).
I Love when a fucking ignorant COMMY says this “briliant” things.
What the funds got was much less than all the billions that the corrupts like Lula, Maduro and Cristina got for them and their “friends”. Much, much less.
Your response is rather weak. You got anything other than fabricated assertions?
A born pessimist?Or made?I guess the latter is more true,as events have illuminated the possibility of candidates turning on their electorate(obomba),but as a born optimist,Trump for POTUS.
And if he does scorn US,the ensuing riots will be bad,very bad.
Same as if they steal this election for the Hell Bitch,as only the 3 monkeys can’t see the fix is in,totally.
–the call for the U.S. Government to “demand that this dispute be settled with democratic elections” —
The quandary being, if only the US knew what “democratic elections” actually involve…or most likely the fear of knowing that very thing along with the outcome is the thing that keeps sincere democracy from gaining too much momentum.
The president of Brazil was overthrown by a “light coup d’ etat” . Dilma’s impeachment was a farce?. Absolutely. Who was behind this “light coup d’ etat”? Who else. The US government and Obama, the Hypocrite and Demagogue. It is a simple truth. Disgusting. Once again, the US government, the Champion of democracy behind a coup d’ etat.
And for anyone that wants to understand what a real journalist would explain. So far Austerity = moving the retirement age from 50. Please tell that to an audience that is allowed to collect Social Security when they are 66-67. How did journalism get so intellectually dishonest? All editorial these days.
A few fact checking results:
The retirement age for women in Brazil is 60; for men it is 65. The life expectancy is 73.6 years. Thus on the average the number of years a Brazilian woman spends in retirement is 13.6; for a man it is 8.6 years.
The retirement age in the US is 67, and the life expectancy is 78.7 years. Thus on the average the number of years a USer spends in retirement is 11.7 years.
Yes, women in Brazil do fractionally better than their US counterparts in terms of years of life after retirement, but men do much worse.
But of course the billionaires in Brazil, like their US counterparts, want to do away with Social Security altogether. Let the proles work until they die!
Actually looking at it more carefully, it appears a woman can retire after 30 years of contribution. So it’s 48 as a minimum age.
One must decide if the intent is a Social Security plan or a pension plan.
What is dishonest is for you to not provide the full facts.
Austerity, as defended by the interim government, is:
Increasing the age of retirement to SEVENTY FIVE YEARS (which is OVER the Brazilian life expectancy corrected for old age).
Increasing the work-load to EIGHTY HOURS A WEEK (that’s 16 hours a day for 5 days a week or 11,5 hours a day for all days of the week)
Selling the Brazilian Public Health service to for-profit Health Insurance Companies (and thus denying over a HUNDRED MILLION BRAZILIANS the right to health, as is secured in the Brazilian Constitution)
Selling the Brazilian Federal Universities to for-profit companies
Selling the Brazilian Pre-salt Oil exploration rights to foreign oil companies for a 1/10th to 1/1000th of its market value.
Meanwhile giving a RAISE of over 50% to congressmen, senators and judges of the Brazilian Executive, Legislative and Judiciary branches.
And forfeiting BILLIONAIRE tax debts from the Media Giant Globo and the Businessmen Conglomerate FIESP.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
You’re lying. None of these are true proposals.
Increasing age of retirement:
http://jornalggn.com.br/noticia/temer-quer-brecha-para-aposentadoria-aos-70-e-pedagio-para-quem-ja-passou-dos-50-anos
The work-load to 80 hours:
http://www.cartacapital.com.br/revista/910/jornada-de-trabalho-de-80-horas
About Temer wanting to dismantle the Brazilian Public Health:
http://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil/2016/05/160517_desvinculacao_saude_ab
http://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/brasil/242526/Ministro-de-Temer-quer-encolher-o-SUS-para-beneficiar-planos-privados.htm
About Temer and public schools and universities:
http://www.redebrasilatual.com.br/politica/2016/04/programa-de-temer-aponta-privatizacao-do-ensino-medio-e-todo-ensino-superior-alertam-especialistas-8749.html
http://www.pragmatismopolitico.com.br/2016/04/michel-temer-sinaliza-privatizacao-do-ensino-medio-e-do-ensino-superior.html
http://www.brasil247.com/pt/247/midiatech/245602/Globo-cobra-de-Temer-o-fim-da-universidade-pública.htm
About the selling of the Pre-Salt (which ALREADY BEGAN)
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2016/07/1796654-petrobras-vende-fatia-em-area-do-pre-sal-por-us-25-bilhoes.shtml
About the raise to Congressmen and Judges:
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2016/06/1777387-com-aval-de-temer-camara-aprova-pauta-bomba-de-r-58-bi-em-reajustes.shtml
http://g1.globo.com/politica/noticia/2016/07/temer-assina-reajuste-de-ate-41-para-servidores-do-judiciario-diz-stf.html
http://oglobo.globo.com/brasil/camara-aprova-projeto-de-reajuste-salarial-para-executivo-legislativo-judiciario-pgr-19420662
And finally, about the Tax debt:
http://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,divida-de-diretor-da-fiesp-com-a-uniao-e-de-r-6-9-bi,10000063476
http://www.anonymousbrasil.com/brasil/bndes-abre-discussao-sobre-liberacao-de-4-bilhoes-de-reais-para-desafogar-a-globocabo/
Some of these are not true proposals, but all of these have been certified as the intentions of Temer and his allies, it is just a matter of time.
Did you even read the articles? If so, you’re a liar indeed!
Where in the Carta Capital article does it say that Temer or anyone else proposed 80 hours workweek?!
So, according to you, it will only be concrete when they actually seal the deal? Regardless of how they defend and push for these implementations?
What about the PLS 432/2013 that is trying to make Slave Work legal under Brazilian law? (Basically, you can without payment from workers, keep them incarcerated, charge them for their work and force them to work 16 hours a day every day, as long as you don’t ALSO whip them in the process, is what this law defines)
This law was proposed by Romero Jucá, one of Temer’s close allies, and is receiving the full support of Temer to pass.
Some of these are not proposals YET, but have been defended by Temer and his allies. I can source EVERY SINGLE ONE of these claims. It just depends on the comments allowing all the URL links it would require.
I can source every single one of these claims, it all depends of the comments allowing the URLs.
Hello from Brazil
Resignation + Apology
Bernie can look in the mirror first.
Bernie can demand the resignation of US State Dept. Undersecretary Thomas Shannon & an apology from Obama to the ‘People of Brazil’ for allowing his administration to meet with Brazilian Senator Nunez on April 20th, 20016.
Shannon was former US Ambassador to Brazil, so he knew exactly what he was doing when he chose to collaborate with the opposition.
Sen. Nunez himself had already been implicated in corruption allegations by then & was VP of opposition that had lost to Dilma in the 2014 election. Further, the first senate vote on the impeachment had yet to take place. Thus the US State Dept. knowingly engaged in a meeting with an allegedly corrupt senate opposition in the middle of Brazil’s impeachment process. Nope, the opposition didn’t go to Europe, China or Canada, but it went straight back to its good ol’ buddy from 1964 – Like WTF Squared!!
Sen. Nunez also met the day before (April 19th) with US business interests represented by a lobby led by former Bush & Clinton officials. The meeting was secret and we don’t know who was there and what they discussed.
Michel Temer was also a US Informant, twice!
Liliana Ayalde, former US Ambassador to Brazil, was recently & quietly taken out of Brazil, with zero explanation. She’s the same one who left Paraguay before their impeachment.
The Secret Coup Conspiracy actually doesn’t seem like a far reach anymore, does it?
On June 10, 2016 I attended a pro-Dilma political rally in smallest state of Brazil in June, where even there they blasted the United States for Honduras, Paraguay & now Brazil!
On July 31, 2016, I saw both the anti-Dilma & pro-Dilma protests in Salvador, Bahia – the black headquarters of Brazil. The anti-Dilma was far smaller (like 1/5th smaller) and was nearly all white while the pro-Dilma was mostly mixed. If you took a picture of the two protests, the difference is literally black & white (haha, but it ain’t joke). I’m sure there are pictures online to confirm this statement.
On March 15, 2015 I was at the anti-Dilma protests in Rio, one of the big protests that kicked off this whole impeachment movement. But again, it was amost entirely white & largely upper class. These anti-Dilma folk are often fun to be around, as many of my friends are anti-Dilma, but their narrative is full of holes & hypocrisy.
But let’s back up again to April 2016. The mainstream media does not want to write about this, because it involves allies of Hillary Clinton, like Madeleine Albright, as well as US State Dept. executives. This could spell C-O-U-P
We – the world – need to take a step back and take a deeper look at those two days in April. Serious questions need to be asked & answered, like:
Who (names) met with Sen. Nunes April 19th?
Or those names now buying up Brazilian state assets?
What (details) did US State Dept. & Sen. Nunes discuss on April 20th?
4/20 2016 may be the day DC showered into smoke. If the world ever wraps its head around exactly what happened on four-twenty twenty sixteen, they may find out how Brazil got their first female-led democracy jacked by yet another US-backed Coup.
If Orange is the new black…
Will 2016 be the new 1964?
Complete insane analysis of Brazil political situation, Sanders should concentrate in his failed political business instead see toward south with left distortion reality from the facts. The only chance of Brazil recovers from economic and political crises is banned Dilma Roussef and the PT from political scenario, in very democratic way and very well supported by several sectors of Brazilian society . We are more 70% in favor of impeachment.
By “we” you mean we connected, rich white 1%ers.
Brazilian Public Favors New Presidential Election
http://www.wsj.com/articles/brazilian-public-favors-new-presidential-election-1460308555
Support for Rousseff’s impeachment ebbs in Brazil poll | Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-politics-idUSKCN0X700J
Poll show majority of Brazilians want new elections – over 2/3 oppose the new post coup government
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Poll-Shows-Majority-of-Brazilians-Want-New-Elections–20160726-0017.html
Poll shows majority of Brazilians support new elections
http://www.businessnewsworld.com/news/poll-shows-majority-of-brazilians-support-new-elections.html
Let it be noted you’re conceding that you want Dilma removed for economic and political reasons, not for anything that should legally determine her removal. Further, you seem to want to have a political party banned.
Do you think Temer should also be impeached on the same basis, that is, popular support for impeachment?
It’s only natural that politicians who have been ousted by backroom dealings of the establishment should express solidarity with one another. Sanders isn’t allowed to complain directly about being knifed in the back by the DNC, but he can show sympathy for a foreign leader who suffered a similar fate.
Hopefully Mrs. Clinton will be sufficiently forbearing to allow Mr. Sanders to announce his impending retirement from politics. I fear, however, that she is less forgiving than I am.
Firstly, let me mention that I am posting this comment so unbiased readers can understand what is going on. For the ultra-right wing coxinhas from Brazil, no attempt to argue, as they have shown, over and over again, to be incapable of civil dialogue, just like the PTralhas they so openly despise.
Make no mistakes, Brazil is under a coup, not a military coup, but a coup nonetheless. If Brazil were a parliamentary democracy, we would have a vote f no confidence, but Brazil is not governed by a parliament. An elected president is being impeached by a Congress and a Senate full of corrupt politicians; case in point the impeachment process was initially accepted and handled by Eduardo Cunha, who’s been (since the impeachment proceedings began), voted off the congress and presidency and is expected to be found guilty of massive corruption and tax evasion.
What we have right now in Brazil is analogous to drug lords fighting for control of the favelas (slumbs). PT, a corrupt-to-the-core political party fighting against the corrupt branches of PMDB, PSDB and many other political parties.
Sanders is right because, despite Dilma being part of the corruption-rich PT, she was democratically elected and the impeachment proceedings, despite being promoted as “within the constitutional processes” is full of machinations and falsehoods being supported by corrupt politicians in congress and senate.
There is no easy way forward for Brazil. Both PT and the opposing coalition are hell bent in usurping the power. However, in order to defend the DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS in Brazil, the USA should take sides, NOT IN FAVOR of Dilma and PT, but against a political coup which will undermine DEMOCRACY in the most powerful nation in South America.
Xo Temer, Dilma, Lula, Aecio, Serra, Alckmin, Gilmar, and all the corrupt politicians in Brazil.
Godspeed to Democracy.
I agree with you in parts. In essence, I agree fully that the impeachment is full of falsehoods and machinations and it is also true that both PT and PMDB, PSDB are rotten and corrupt.
Having said that, Congress was democratically elected just like Dilma. Congress is within its authority to impeach her and the constitution in Brazil predicts impeachment in the case of violations to the fiscal responsibility law. Point is, the impeachment has as much democratic legitimacy as Dilma’s presidential mandate.
Dilma was elected through fraud and corruption. She lied at an unprecedented level, doctored the government accounts and economic indicators to help her reelection and her campaign was financed through corrupt money from Petrobras kickbacks. THAT was an attack on democracy as big as anything else. She was elected all right, bit not legitimally. And she failed entirely as a President.
Remember, even before the impeachment, Dilma had lost the ability to govern. She had put Temer at the helm political coordination of her administration and was criticized by the opposition for having “outsourced” the presidency to Temer.
Temer and his associates are rotten. But this narrative of couple and “democratically elected Dilma” are a total false. Sanders and anyone taking this position are misguided.
I guess it is easier to fall for stereotypes of Latin America and couple d’etat than understanding the facts in their complexity.
Hillary Clinton was the beneficiary of Wasserman-Shultz’s effort to undermine Sander’s campaign. In fact, she was amply rewarded and praised for the effort by Clinton; Yet Sander’s has said nothing about Clinton’s role. Rather he encourages his followers to engage in the lesser-of-two-evils rationale by voting for the most politically corrupt candidate in the race. Which reminds me of a joke that Buddy Hacket use to tell in his Vegas act…
By endorsing Hillary, and encouraging his followers to support her candidacy, Bernie is insuring that the house (political establishment) itself will always be the winner. Yes, the game was brilliantly rigged to assure a predetermined outcome, and Sander’s is doing his part to further perpetuate pyrrhic party politics. Do you feel the Bern?
For clarity sake:
“In fact, she (Wasserman) was amply rewarded and praised for the effort by Clinton…”
Dilma can’t be gone soon enough. No one supports Temer, everyone just hates Dilma more. It’s that first step towards a very long journey.
So basically you have citizens that want corruption to end. And people that want corruption to continue. That’s Brasil in a nutshell.
As for austerity, when your revenue falls off a cliff, and you do not have the USA lending power, any idiot knows that cuts have to be made, particularly from a system that is so big and fat and inefficient.
Having 3 of his ministers already dropped for corruption, having himself several accusations of corruption including the bribery of R$ 10 millions for his party and R$ 23 million for his Foreign Relations Minister just from a single source, the ones defending Temer while wanting Dilma out (the only one who DOESN’T have any formal accusations of corruption in this Government) are the ones who want corruption to continue, following the tenets imposed on them by Globo and VEJA.
The same VEJA that not long ago was claiming that Cunha was the most honest and respected politician in the entire Congress. The same Globo that never did a 24-hour coverage of Aécio’s COKE FILLED HELICOPTER, or PRIVATE OWNED AIRPORTS BUILT WITH PUBLIC MONEY, or THE SYPHONING OF OVER R$ 10 BILLIONS OUT OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH FROM HIS STATE WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR. Heck, not even a 5-minute segment. The most Globo ever did was a quick 5 second mention of Aécio as one of the beneficiaries of the Furnas corruption scheme, to never ever touch the theme again.
I agree with all of the above. You have Ali Baba and the 400 thieves down there. I have a very interesting Brasilian friend (bicheiro), I once asked him why he doesn’t stop this nonsense and fly straight. He replied “I have no college education, I can do this or politics.” Then being a gringo and not feeling worried he went on to explain to me how EVERYONE gets paid off from the jogo de bicho, to which I naturally asked, “what if someone doesn’t want”, to which he emphatically responded. “THEY ALL TAKE”.
Basically, honest people are not allowed in the club.
But that’s the thing: Dilma is NOT from the club. And that’s the main reason I am led to believe she actually has a chance of not being corrupt.
She is NOT a politician. This is the crux of the issue. She is not well versed in politics. Without Lula’s direct endorsement, she wouldn’t have the political knowhow to get even 1% of the votes. She is simply not a politician. Nor a good administrator. She is from outside this world of politics, surgically inserted into presidency.
If you actually go after the recordings that Judge Moro and his cronnies so thoughtfully released to the public, you will notice certain themes: A) In none of them Dilma or Lula discuss corruption or money. B) In them Lula and Dilma discuss the Supreme Court and their fear that they will support the opposition out of fear. C) That their OPPOSITION openly discussed corruption with each other and the shut down of the Lava Jato investigations, and that the ONLY way to get it done was taking Dilma out of the government. And D) That most of this same opposition that conspired behind doors are still free to articulate and make politics because all the accusations against them was forfeited when the proof (the recordings) were made public.
You have no idea how corruption has ruled Brazil for over 300 years. NEVER has corruption been investigated. The Banestado case, one that was estimated to be EVEN BIGGER than the Petrobrás corruption scheme, dealing with about 10 times the money of the Lava Jato investigations, happened during Fernando Henrique Cardoso (the last president voted by the right). The investigations actually got to the very roots of the scheme, but both the lack of media attention (almost no Brazilian ever heard of the Banestado case) and active Federal obstruction (including all relevant evidence being archived and ruled out by none other than Judge Moro himself) left the investigations to be buried, a handful of scapegoats to receive extremely light punishment, and nothing to come of it.
Another similar case was that Fernando Henrique appointed Geraldo Brindeiro in one of the highest positions in the government where he, throughout ALL of Fernando Henrique’s rule, archived and dismissed basically ALL of the accusations of corruption of his Government. Which were over FOUR THOUSAND inquires that never evolved into an actual investigation.
The sole fact that this is FINALLY being investigated means that SOMEONE in the Federal Government was finally allowing it. And when Moro used it to target Lula, suddenly it got a LOT of media attention (but only about Lula. Just so you know, the Brazilian Federal police is currently also in two OTHER major corruption investigations, the Zealots operation, which is investigating other kickback schemes inside congress related to the PSDB opposition party, and Hypocrite operation, which is targeting doctors and politicians who are syphoning funds from the Brazilian public healthcare programs into private hospitals. NEITHER is receiving even an inkling of coverage in the media).
The thing is, if I look at the current congress and Senate, there’s only ONE PERSON there who seems to be the one supporting these investigations. And that person is Dilma. Who the Federal Police even went on record on saying that she was the first president EVER (even Lula) to not disrupt their investigations. But good luck finding that on Globo.
So let me guess, Mr. Sanders is talking about the legitimacy of the impeachment process in my country Brazil??!! With all due respect, but it catch’s me by a surprise, since is already proved by the judiciary committee that Mrs. Dilma Roussef acting as president of our nation, orchestrated the biggest financial and administrative scandal of a free democratic nation in modern era, estimated by the local press in the order of 890 billion dollars. The ongoing investigation already brought back to our country over 8 billion dollars from offshore accounts all over the world. Among the many people in Jail, are politicians of every level up to senators, business people, entrepreneurs, the president of the largest government contractors company in the country, who actually held many contracts with the public sector here in US as well. But there is more, the last stage of the investigation is called by the federal authorities “there is one left”. which is a remark regarding the former president Lula, president of the PT party, who with his family and party stolen and robbed our finances and dreams.
So I ask you, who is Bernie Sanders, what credibility or accountability he have to point the finger on a sovereign nation like Brazil????? Instead he may be able to explain his own nation, Attorney’s Lynch embarrassment on the senate floor, misleading the Benghazi committee to cover up for former president Clinton, ( who actually should be removed to honor this great nation history) contradicting the FBI director Mr. Comey on the Benghazi scandal, the biggest liar on America political scenario ever, Hillary Clinton. Who if elected will throw your country into the biggest moral, political and spiritual darkness that you may never comes out off.
If you want to fight and talk about a good a decent cause, point your finger on Brazilian Judge Sergio Moro, a young man who is fighting and opposing all of these corrupted politicians and others, facing life-threatening and accusations, up to the supreme court. This is something worth to take a look off, so I CHALLENGE YOU to do so.
Respectfully.
Eliezer santos.
I think you are confused and misinformed. You’refused mixing up the impeachment proceedings and Lava Jato.
The 8 billion recovered through Lava Jason has absolutely nothing to do with Dilma and the judiciary committee, you ignorant fool.
No one in Brazil supports Temer, they just know he has to be there for now to get rid of Dilma. Step 1….
Step 2… The whole house needs to be clean. They are all trash out there in Brasilia.
Supporting Dilma is like supporting corruption. Supporting Temer is like supporting corruption. What is so hard to understand.
Step 1: Take Dilma out. Step 2: Leave Globo, the Folha de São Paulo, Veja and other media outlets convince the population that everything is fine and that Temer is the best president ever. Step 3: Allow all the corruption that was being investigated in the right-wing parties to be quietly archived by Moro as he runs out of material on Lula. Step 4: Sell Petrobrás, sell SUS, sell all the Federal Universities (with Globo’s omnipresent approval in editorials) and allow Brazil to stop being a developed country and go back to being a hopeless 3rd world country where it belongs. Step 5: PROFIT! (To foreign corporations)
Who?
Said What?
FUCK BERNIE SANDERS!
The hypocritical phony allowed Hillary and her nefarious DNC run over like the road kill that he is – he should stood there staring into the headlights, doing NOTHING to save his own skin – even after all of the DNC email information about the absolutely corrupt Democratic primary operation came to light.
He was a Pied-Piper, leading all of the foolish followers to their death…
(corrected for grammar)
Who?
Said What?
FUCK BERNIE SANDERS!
That hypocritical phony allowed Hillary and her nefarious DNC machine to run over him like the road kill that he was – he just stood there staring into the headlights, doing NOTHING to save his own skin – even after all of the DNC email information about the absolutely corrupt Democratic primary operation came to light.
He was nothing but a Pied-Piper, leading his foolish followers to their deaths.
Victoria, you are terribly ill-informed.
It is necessary for a politician like Bernie to join the establishment not to fall flat the movement.
Read here.
“social movements succeed when they get some portion of the political elites on their side”
Why Bernie Sanders Has to Join the Establishment
The future of his revolution depends on it.
https://newrepublic.com/article/135013/bernie-sanders-join-establishment
eh, Bernie is alright…
The only thing “phony” Victoria, is your outrage.
My, my you must have hit a nerve – all the capitulation is not really capitulation people are out in force. I’m sure Sanders consulted with his fellow true believer Alexis Tsipras before taking action.
BERNIE SANDERS IS AN ESTABLISHMENT NEOLIBERAL APPARATCHIK WHO HAS BETRAYED HIS FOLLOWERS AND SIDED WITH WARMONGERING AND GOLDMAN SACHS.
post comma dumb as a
I speculate that, by now, both Bernie & Jane Sanders will have had ample opportunity to recognize, as more & more info about voter fraud and the DNC’s dirty dealings comes to light, not merely just how wickedly Bernie got cheated out of the DNC’s nomination, but just how utterly venal and incorrigibly narcissistic a creature is HRC, in her own person. So maybe, just maybe, with his formal statement about Brazil, he is testing the waters one last time, just to see if he might get officially reprimanded by the DNC for talking like an infant out of turn and instructed from above to henceforth hold his mouth. I further speculate, then, that he may have had something of an epiphany of late, now that his 7-year older brother Larry — one who in the UK votes Green, but in the US votes Democrat — has beat it back home to England, and thereby relieved poor Bernie of the quasi-parental pressure of a Superego:-
There can be no doubting that the liberal Bernie’s apostasy in terms of his long-proclaimed ‘political revolution’ came when he wimped out once confronted by the real enough prospect of a fascist presidency. During the time since the DNC, however, Trump has shown himself well on the way to committing political kamikaze and — so I speculate, with more scandals surely imminent in the wake of his incontinent faux pas — will likely drop out of the contest once it dawns on him that he is destined to lose to HRC and, in any case, that he would not be able to lay claim to any authority with innumerable government and military officials in Washington.
What Bernie has likely come to realize in the last week or so then, so I imagine, is that HRC and the DNC have no interest nor concern whatsoever in his political agenda, indeed are self-interestedly and dogmatically if at the moment clandestinely opposed to most of it ; that the Democratic Party is actually no more than a vacuous personality cult, emanating from midway between the crotch of its dear leader HRC’s garish trouser-suits; and that, in fact, the DNC’s one & only political shibboleth of any content is: #HillaryNotTrump.
Thus Bernie’s epiphany, as speculated:- If there’s suddenly no more Trump any more, then why support Hillary, someone perfectly “unqualified” for being POTUS? Why not try, albeit as time gets so short, seek to resuscitate the campaign for a ‘political revolution’ with Sanders as POTUS? Or why not, albeit so late in the game, beg Jill Stein’s Baraka to stand aside so that — given of course formal authorization from her party’s delegates — he can go Green and stand with her as VP or POTUS (one or the other, who cares in such desperate times)?
It should go without saying that many, like myself even, will find all this to be an improbable scenario. But, let’s face it, these are truly extraordinary times, when the most far-fetched outcomes tend to come into being all the same.
Greetings from Brazil.
For those of you, fellow americans, who worry about Brazilian institutions, allow me to make sure that everything is running on tracks, under legal and constitutional order.
Contrary to the irresponsible arguments of Bernie Sanders, there is nothing nor even close to a “coup” going on here.
Dilma Rouseff is charged of fiscal fraud, what caused the economical crisis we are living in the country today. There are PLENTY of prooves, HUGE legal embasement, and a never seen before right of defense – Dilma had the right to present no less tha FORTY testemonies in her defense, but the charges prevailed.
Bernie reaches the ridiculous when he talks about “coup”… 3 months of trial until now, direct supervision of the Superior Court, endless testemonies… What else does he want to recognize our democracy? Like any socialist, the only truth he may recognize is the truth that is convenient for himself.
Dilma will fall. Democratically.
As a local saying goes, that I translate freely: “go to sleep with a noise like that”, Bernie… Or yet another “crying is free”.
Dear Souwell “coxinha” Memo, don’t bother trying to sell the coup as democratic. This battle is lost for you guys, and honestly, you and other coxinhas like yourself deserve the future that Brazil is going to face.
Good. I thought maybe I could feel the burn; I mean, it looked like he had or has principles… but if you’re a politician methinks it’s incompatible those two things. So, the kingdom of heaven will not arrive on Air Force One. I’m disappointed.
TI keeps rippin the political elites; no DJT, no HRC, and not feelin the burn either. So, who would TI vote for if it was a person? Would it be Green, Constitution, or Libertarian?
“People in glass houses………..”
Bernie should just eat his mac and cheese.
I mean, Benedict Arnold ‘s stock has gone up since Bernie endorsed the Hellbitch.
saunders writ large to Brazil is just empire gone mad … sing it again, “glennn” …
god save teh queen
Call me old fashioned but when someone capitulates to every principal they claim to oppose such as Tsipras/Sanders has then they loose pretty much all their credibility. So, Tsipras/Sanders made a statement with which I might agree, so what? He is a Neoliberal establishment figure and should he gain power there is no reason he would not support US Neoliberal interests – which are abundant in Brazil – US interests in Latin America have never had anything to do with democracy.
Capitulation is capitulation.
This is the problem with people like Bernie Sanders. He accepts meekly the mess in his own party, but he feels compelled to voice his opinion about a foreign country. Why can’t he just mind his own business?
I think this is a fundamental issue that we have and not just Bernie. Our politicians have to poke their nose in the affairs of all other countries in the world. We must learn from the rest of the world. They never bother if we butcher a few BLM folks or if our party subvert some of the candidates.
General Hercules, Bernie had left Democrat already to his principled position – Independent.
I believe by his significant achievement he made in the primaries, Bernie has gained vocal position inside political arena.
He did gain a few decibels initially, I’ll concede. That was before he sold out to Crooked.
He has been called “gadfly” for his entire political career,lol, you seem to be just another Bernie-hater.
History Professor “Social movements succeed when they get some portion of the political elites on their side”
Bernie Had to Join the Establishment, which is why the future of his revolution depends on it.
https://newrepublic.com/article/135013/bernie-sanders-join-establishment
Sanders’ could buy new home by selling wife’s family’s home since 1900.
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2016/08/08/bernie-sanders-buys-a-summer-home-in-north-hero
With irrelevance, comes freedom. Unless they are political junkies, the last thing most Americans will have heard from the mass media is that Sanders is “endorsing” Clinton. Clinton is the ultimate status-quo candidate. With the status-quo comes America’s penchant for right wing coups.
As coups go, this one was rather tame, if Bill Clinton had been removed for his definition of “is” and a stained dress, it would have been about as much of a coup. No tanks, just an abuse of process.
not a coup if there’s no tanks? no tanks.
Fuck-off, little dick-sucker.
aw, somebody needs a hug
Her Trump ball cap is too tight.
What the hell is this American election but an attempted coup by Zionism?
There whole lying apparatus are totally in the tank for HRC,and of course we know why,as she is a mole traitor for Zion.
She should be lined up and shot for treason.
yay! you mentioned “Z” words twice. This is quite a breakthrough for you, as you usually only mention a “Z” word once per post.
Fly your freak flag!
How nice of Tsipras/Sanders – now that any make believe power he once had is squandered by his capitulation to Neoliberalism to make such a “strong” statement.
Call me old fashioned but when you sell out to warmongering and financial oppression I no longer recognize you as honest, even though you may make a statement here and there with which I might agree.
There is certainly every indication that Sanders if given power would rule as a Neoliberal like all the rest of the establishment to which he belongs. The US has abundant “interests” in seeing a Neoliberal government in Brazil and in fact throughout the world they consider theirs already. In office I would expect Tsipras/Sanders to protect those interests.
The only Brazilians that want Temer out are: 1) The corrupt former ruling party- PT *actually, they do not want her back anyway, everybody knows. 2) Public servants that have guaranteed salaries and that have no need to work or even go to work 3) Politicians that rake cash from the corrupt officers that PT placed in the Brazilian Government 4) Bloggers that are / were supported by the Dilma/Lula/PT Government 5) Americans that do not have a hint on Brazilian culture, politics and on the decent people that are trying to put the country back on track. Bernie Sanders should shut up about the country in which he wants to meddle, such as the past American governments that have inspired coups and assassinations, torture and dictatorships. In fact, a country that has such presidential candidates as Hillary and Trump should be looking at their back yard, and not peering over their neighbour’s house.
Refer again to the Folha polls (the actual ones, not the fraud that they published). Temer is extremely unpopular, and the majority of Brazil doesn’t want him as president.
If you don’t agree, that doesn’t mean you speak for the whole country.
If you’re an upper middle-class citizen and your whole social circle supports him, you don’t speak for the whole country.
I didn’t vote for Dilma, and I never endorsed PT in my life (I’m as right wing as one can reasonably be and Brazil), but I don’t support Temer, and his government has no democratic foundations. It has been proved by conversations between senators and congressmen that they articulated this coup to get rid of corruption investigations and take back the control that Dilma took away from them.
She’s the democratically elected president. Brazil either wants her there instead of Temer, or a new election (I want the latter). Your assumption that anyone who doesn’t support this coup is either a PT partisan or someone who directly benefits from PT decisions, you’re wrong. I, for one, am an example of someone who is none if these things and want him gone for good.
The amount of bullshit per paragraph is staggering.
It appears that Sanders’ ignorance goes beyond the economy and extends to foreign matters. I would like him to point what exactly in the impeachment process resemples a coup. The process has proceeded as dictated by Brazil’s constitution, and every appeal by the corrupt members of PT has been rejected by a supreme court composed in its majority of members appointed by PT itself.
Unelected coalition? This is where your intellectual dishonesty becomes clear. Temer had exactly as many votes as Dilma in the elections. They were on the same ballot after all! How can you treat your readers with such disrespect for their intelligence?
Sanders’ drawing of the sexism card makes the whole point even more ridiculous. Brazil had 38 ministries during Dilma’s administration, including the Ministry of Fishing! This orgy of taxpayer money spending is what you and Mr. Sanders are defending.
It’s also funny that you try to display DataFolha as pro-Temer, given this very institute has consistently downplayed the size of the massive protests against Dilma, Lula and PT in 2015 and 2016.
You mention corruption scandals and ministers forced to resign but you forget the multiple scandals during Dilma’s presidency, and her ministers did not resign! Your double standards are revolting. The claim that being cited in an investigation is “far more serious” than the proved corruption under Dilma. The Pasadena refinery scandal alone involved BILLIONS of dollars.
By the way, you should make your lack of independence in reporting these matters, given your boyfriend is now a candidate under PSOL, a party whose sole purpose is to act as PT’s henchmen.
“one more senator is trying to keep some kind of credibility”
Unfortunately, whether they chose to or not, Sanders and Warren played a role in stepping aside and not fighting when it counted. A LOT of people are now turned off to the Democratic Party and everyone in it and likely will never come back. I will never look at Bernie in the same way that I did. It was incredibly sad, what he did, however much he believed it was the right choice. As Chris Hedges said, he may come to regret that choice for the rest of his life – it was an incredible opportunity to have taken the country in a different direction.
And I wish I’d heard more focused coverage like this of Bernie when he was running, instead of afterward, when it’s too late.
BUT NOW . . . Jill Stein is polling at 2x Trump with voters under 30 – the all volunteer party against war is beating the billionaire developer of the war mongering party.
The corporate media attacks on her are picking up steam — she’s an anti-vaxxer, she’s a “political opportunist wooing Bernie supporters”, she’s with a nutty peacenik party, etc.
Maybe it’s time to start looking at what is going on with the corporate coverage of the candidates. Or anything besides endless coverage of what’s wrong with Trump, which gets us nowhere.
Three-hundred and fifty one google results from a search of the Intercept website on Trump, 490 on Hillary, 218 on Bernie and 37 on Jill, the woman now polling higher than Trump with voters under 30.
“Now that his presidential campaign is over, he is free to speak out in ways that would not necessarily be politically beneficial in the eyes of the Democratic Party voter base.”
Too little too late. Thanks for pointing this out.
Me I’m voting Green, without rancor against Bernie Sanders or admiration for Chris Hedges. Count me in.
So,
a man who is on the record as loudly saying that he is opposed to
a variety of corruptions which parallel the corruption in Brazil
and then turns around and endorses the candidate who most
exemplifies those corruptions
is now saying he opposes those corruptions.
Now that Sanders has guaranteed his own insignificance
and is promoting a blatantly corrupt candidate and promoting
fear and hypocrisy as the basis of action for his followers
we get to hear the good old pseudo-indignation which is
central to his efforts to make the democrats look like
they give a rat’s ass as their pied piper plays his old flute.
Maybe he and his corrupt party can blame the corruption in
Brazil on the Russians and Trump!
Certainly Trump will do his part to keep the corruption flourishing also.
What a bunch of predatory fakers!
In case there is a misunderstanding,
my first sentence above is referring to Hillary Clinton.
Thank you!
Who cares what Sanders says.
I didn’t donate and support him for the past year to watch him kiss Hillary’s ass on national TV.
After what Clinton and the DNC did to Sanders during Convention Week I would have hoped that Sanders whould have the balls to walk out and go Independent, Libertarian or Green.
Chris Hedges said it best:
“Sanders squandered his most important historical moment. He had a chance, one chance, to take the energy, anger and momentum, walk out the doors of the Wells Fargo Center and into the streets to help build a third-party movement. His call to his delegates to face “reality” and support Clinton was an insulting repudiation of the reality his supporters, mostly young men and young women, had overcome by lifting him from an obscure candidate polling at 12 percent into a serious contender for the nomination. Sanders not only sold out his base, he mocked it. This was a spiritual wound, not a political one. For this he must ask forgiveness.”
Chris Hedges should start the penitence party.
It’s rich to see Chris Hedges saying that Sanders “blew” a chance to do anything at the Democratic convention — are not those people all doomed sinners for even being involved with such an organization?
I agree with you. I love Chris Hedges, especially since he seems to be a religious person with an unusual level of empathy. It’s too bad he can’t extend Sanders some of it.
Sanders’ move was pure politics. He just happens to be more risk averse than your garden variety revolutionary. To say that Sanders “mocked” his base is total bullshit. Sanders, as far as I can tell, sacrificed his principles, just because Trump is on the other side. If Kasich was on the republican nominee, I doubt he would have endorsed Hillary. Too bad Hedges can’t see that.
Kasich and Clinton are two peas in a zionist pod.Give it a rest,as Sanders is also.
Type the word “zionist” some more, amoeba. If the world were as simple as you imagine it is, we never would have evolved into humans in the first place.
I’m very glad to see Bernie Sanders do this. Glenn’s speculation seems reasonable and I’ll make my own guess. I see his doing this now as a combination of:
1 the olympics are happening now so it’s a good time to hit the press
2 as a psychological trade-off of fulfilling his support-the-nominee pledge, he also says what he wants about policy whether Hillary would or not — in other words, his notion of what it means to “support the nominee” might not come down to a pledge to simply repeat her talking points
3 he notices the Hillary campaign is just going to count on appealing to crossover Republicans and drop all “progressive” trappings of any kind
I’d add that Elizabeth Warren’s surprising criticisms this weekend of the DNC and Hillary hiring Schultz also indicate that at least one more senator is trying to keep some kind of credibility.
Which is good, I’d rather have Warren and Sanders uncomfortable right now, and at least sometimes acting on it, than just be “oh well it’s too late now.”
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I await the Clintonistas…”But…but…but…” and the teabaglicans…”Brazil? Where’s a map…but no matter…a right wing government is sent by Gaw-DUH!”.