The revelation that an undercover FBI agent encouraged a would-be terrorist to “Tear up Texas” shortly before he opened fire on a “Draw Muhammad” cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, last year raises new concerns about FBI counterterrorism efforts that were already under fire for manufacturing terrorism cases rather than halting them.
According to an affidavit filed in a related case last week, Elton Simpson — one of two men who donned body armor and fired assault weapons before being shot dead by a Garland police officer — had been corresponding with an undercover FBI agent. And in a text message roughly a week before the attack, as they discussed the cartoon contest, the agent had exhorted Simpson to “Tear up Texas.”
The FBI, in the affidavit, explained the comment as “an effort to continue their dialogue” with the suspect.
But testing the willingness of suspects to take certain steps in a conspiracy is one thing; actively encouraging them to commit a violent, criminal act is another.
“The FBI uses informants and undercover agents to pressure suspected ISIS sympathizers into committing acts of violence, so that they can then be prosecuted. The Garland shooter case is the most striking illustration yet of the dangers of this approach,” says Arun Kundnani, a lecturer on terrorism studies at New York University. “Essentially, it suggests the government may be manufacturing the very threat it is supposed to be countering.”
Kundnani called for “an independent congressional investigation of the FBI’s tactics.”
The extensive role played by the undercover agent was first reported by the Daily Beast.
Though sting operations are generally seen as an appropriate tool for infiltrating criminal organizations or conspiracies, their use is more problematic in contemporary terrorism cases involving isolated individuals. In those cases, the concern is that the informant or undercover agent could plant the idea to actually conduct an attack in the mind of a suggestible or unstable person.
“These cases always have a lot of gray area and there has always been a question of how far the FBI should go when they get involved in these sting operations,” said Karen Greenberg, director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law School. “But if you’re going to target potentially unstable, vulnerable individuals in undercover sting operations, you have to examine the potential consequences of having these types of discussions with them.”
The utility of sting operations has changed in the era of Islamic State, Greenberg said. Terrorist groups in the past, including al Qaeda, tended to have more coherent plots and mature conspirators. “There are several factors which make it harder to control a situation with informants in ISIS cases, including the instability, vulnerability, and, frequently, the young age of most ISIS recruits,” Greenberg said. “Not only is there often a lack of a specific plot in mind, there tends to be a real sense of suicidal thinking and self-hatred in their motivations that can make it more difficult to control a situation.”
“We just don’t know what happened in this case, but it’s a real warning sign that the foreseeable consequences of acts are now unknown,” she adds. In none of the previous cases is the FBI known to have actively encouraged violence, nor dealt with anyone equipped and prepared to carry out an imminent, violent act. Here they seemingly did both.
FBI Director James Comey has said there are active investigations of suspected ISIS sympathizers ongoing “in all 50 states.” But little is known about the nature of the individuals held under suspicion or what methods the FBI is using to investigate them.
The New York Times reported in June that since February 2015, two thirds of terrorism prosecutions related to Islamic State have involved undercover operatives.
And in recent years a number of plots have materialized involving seemingly unstable individuals interacting with government informants. This January, a 25-year-old man with a history of psychiatric problems was arrested after attempting to attack an upstate New York bar with a machete — with the assistance of a government informant who helped provide him with the machete. And in October 2014, a former army recruit was introduced to FBI informants after being released from of a mental institution. Months later, he was arrested for plotting to attack a military facility — with a fake bomb provided by the informants.
Although more than 100 alleged Islamic State plots have been documented in the United States since 2014, it’s unclear how many would have materialized without the involvement of informants or undercover agents. Such cases nevertheless help inflate the public fear of terrorism and feed the misconception that terrorist sleeper cells are ubiquitous in the United States.
The escalation of FBI tactics to actively encouraging violent actors in these investigations would be a dangerous step.
Many of the targets of prior terrorism investigations did not demonstrate any ability to prepare for an actual attack without the FBI providing their equipment. But the Garland shooters did.
And had they been more competent in their assault, the result could have been one of the deadliest terrorist attacks in recent U.S. history – an attack that was encouraged by the FBI.
Top photo: FBI crime scene investigators document the area around two deceased gunmen and their vehicle outside the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, Texas, in May 2014.
Our government wants terrorists to come and kill us, so that it can gain more power.
The more one becomes familiar with the work and ideology behind the “official” US, the more surprise and questions raises about the integrity of this world power…
“God’s own people” & “In god we trust” I’m honestly in serious doubt of how many can see themselves in a mirror reflecting on these often used self proclaimed title’s…
Of course they are trying to foment home grown terrorism, how rose will they justify their disgustedly huge budgets?
Recent case of Aaron Driver in Canada makes me wonder.
Me too.
The Alternative Headline Banner should read – Evidence emerges of FBI involvement in false flag terror attacks on US soil – because this is what these are.
The Alternative Headline Banner should read – Evidence emerges of FBI involvement in false flat terror attacks on US soil – because this is what these are.
I have an alternative Headline Banner for you: Yet More Damning Evidence America is a Nazi-Led Hellhole Engineering the Whole Damn Global Imperialist Shebang.
To America’s post-WW2 strategists, the failure of Hitler was: to be unable to find allies to aid and abet and proxies to start his wars that he could come in later and finish; to be impatient in making his various tactical plays; to be too focused on a single leader and his individual skill set and thus be vulnerable to his own shortcomings; to be lacking control over critical assets such as communications, global replen bases, and oil; and to be limited in ambition.
The new Master Race: white, highschool dropout, obese, 40, watches football, has pizza on their shirt except for church, and votes Clinton because Trump is scary.
Dear Americans, and The Intercept
It may come as somewhat of a shock to you, but us in the Rest of the World (TM) – you know, the guys that make your sneakers and cars and, well, everything else really – we’ve kinda noticed that your various corporate bodies and government agencies – CIA, FBI, Military, Police, Government Officials, anyone with their grubby mitts on fat corporate profits or tax dollars – well, we’ve noticed that they are involved in a whole bunch of naughty and way-beyond-suspicious things; such as:
– Organising terrorists
– Arming terrorists
– Transporting terrorists to places and pointing at stuff and saying “Cometh the Man, Maketh the Mayhem!”
– Arming dictators
– Encouraging dictators to be murderous tyrannical arseholes
– Spying on EVERYONE
– Encouraging others to spy on EVERYONE when it is difficult for them to do it
– Copyrighting and patenting everything and suing everyone else for breathing in America’s air
– Scapegoating entire peoples and cultures – Muslims, Latinos, Africans, Asians, Europeans… Everyone, really
– Acting as if the world is threatening you and out to get you whilst spending more on weapons than the rest of the world put together and conducting the most comprehensive imperialist campaign in world history that can ony result in the misery and ruination of billions
– Murdering some of them for good measure and to show you are serious
– Smuggling drugs
– Taking LOADS of drugs
– Blaming everyone else, especially with a Latino accent, for your drug problems
– Laundering money
– Dodging taxes
– Creating financial crises and stealing loads of money and then blaming anything slightly left-wing and beneficial to the public for causing the “economic crash” whilst still claiming to be the geniuses of world business and doyens of progress and enlightenment
– Setting up trade agreements so you can sue entire nations and help yourself to their taxes
– Extrajudicially murdering people you don’t like
– Creating new types of “war” that do not comform to the normal territorially and politically limited scope of previous wars to allow you to operate militaristically in a Martini fashion – any time, any place, anywhere
– Renditioning and torturing and detaining without legal reason
– Bullying and manipulating entire nations
– Bankrupting places like Greece just to threaten others
– Calling everyone a “terrorist” or a “criminal” if you don’t like them, making otherwise off-limits civilians into legitimate military targets
– Believing you are “exceptional” – i.e. not having to practice what you preach and enforce using the above strategies
– Lying about lots of things, some of which resulted in the destruction of several nations and hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths and most certainly millions of refugees
– All of this happening very regularly, in fact continuously, since for sure about 1945 and quite a bit before then as well.
But hey, you carry on acting astounded by each and every single occurence and pretend that you are laboriously joining the dots to come to some unforseen-as-yet conclusion that probably won’t tally with ours anyway which is that your country is a barbaric shithole run by the world’s worst and most hateful mobsters.
Because once the penny drops the solid belief in the integrity of the Founding Fathers will sort it all out but until then we’ve all got bills to pay, right?
I’m am American, but I don’t like the stuff any more than you do, and it seems I’m powerless to stop it. I kinda want to move to Europe, but that’s expensive.
In another incident, the US military armed and encouraged ISIS to attack Syria and destabilise the Assad regime from bases in Iraq with the aim of provoking a hostile reaction from Russia and Iran…
You say entrapment, we say the US Military-Inustrial Complex ARE the terrorists.
But hey, you carry on bickering about the details whilst these guys carry on trying to take over the world. You should be caught up and all sorted and decided by the year 2266.
Entrapment is Job #1.
Sadly, this cannot be legally considered incitement to violence, because the undercover agent didn’t intend the violence to actually occur. It seems like gross criminal negligence though.
The Clinton precedent: The FBI didn’t INTEND to break the law with their shortsighted, pointed comments. Ergo, no wrongdoing was done.
Summing it up: “Essentially, it suggests the government may be manufacturing the very threat it is supposed to be countering.”
That is the M.O of the current policies
Nothing is as democratic as clobbering the world’s peoples in the name of democracy! (Tm)
Street Justice, American Justice, and the Law. Do not be confused as to which one will apply to you, because the Dept. Of Justice has no conscience when it comes to you…
“In none of the previous cases is the FBI known to have actively encouraged violence, …” I don’t see how you can say that. In every reported case going back to the Ft. Dix Three, the FBI’s paid informant initiated the plot, laid out the plan, obtained weapons and/or explosive material, sometimes got training for the victim in how to use the supposed deadly materiel, provided money, provided transportation, etc. To say this was not actively encouraging violence is to commit an atrocity on the English language.
Do you have any tips on a good place to start on this topic? FBI, CIA etc. involvement in criminal activity.
Encouraging proxy violence is a calling card of Uncle Sam Inc. It is the US’s nature, it is in its DNA. No point investigating the scorpion for stinging the frog; either kill the scorpion, take away his venom, stop the frog from giving him a ride across the river, or provide alternative transport.
Investigations & Inquiries – for wankers, really.
No surprises here! It’s been obvious from the start that it’s manufactured. You’d have to be dumb and distracted by tv and stuff to not see the sick reality of USA justice.
There we go. It was obvious that something like this would happen with the FBI’s self-serving, half-baked plot cooking school.
And who is covering it like the total outrage and danger that it is? Only you, so far. More power to you, Murtaza Hussein.
ENTRAPMENT. The Million Dollar Scam – alive and well in the anything for money US. It was supposed to be illegal but we see it has arisen from the dead. Getting people to commit offenses like murder is as easy as any gang initiation. It could be a game show – Murder for Hire – the contestants would have a prize of 1 BILLION DOLLARS to murder someone, but only 1 contestant could get the job – that being the one asking the lowest price – then using a revolver with 5 blanks and 1 live round and 1 shot. The volunteer victim would be paid $1MILLION for the chance at surviving.
Really – in america, that game show would fly. As far as it being illegal? Waivers and the Hillary clause should handle that. If the f…b…i… wanted to, they could arrest the entire country – except wallstreet thieves and Hellery.
The FBI engages in gangstalking, electronic harassment to target normal everyday citizens… like to walk your dog around
The neighborhood but the neighbors don’t like it? You could be subjected to electronic harrassment by the FBI… There are numerous websites and videos that explain this evil perpetuated by our government…The FSU shooter, the navy shipyard shooter and the Baton Rouge shooter all have openly talked about this government evil… We live in very troubled times and the future is only becoming bleaker with evil people operating under the authority of the government…
Check out channel..much more to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLKuPPe1IhY
Everything’s going exactly as planned!
That’s what she said.
The FBI has been involved in most terrorist cases, at least back to the OKC bombing.
You can’t blithely toss that off without evidence.
Do tell us how the FBI helped cause the OKC bombing. Not all of us know, you understand.
There are several sources, but I would start here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Terrorist
bad start
What I would like Murtaza Hussein and company to find out is whether the Orlando and San Bernardino shooters (or any other) were also goaded by FBI informants, but then they acted before FBI could fake an encounter and kill them. This would be devastating for the FBI if even one single case like this happened.
This story here is bad but still understandable.
All these stupid activities will stop early next year when Donald Trump takes charge. We will give FBI proper authority and cut down their budget so such jokers cannot be employed. We will use the money to provide jobs and health-care for everybody including BLM folks, legal Latinos and all the moderate Islamic jihadists so that they don’t find time for jihadist terror. You guys need to vote properly for these type of good things to happen.
You are beginning to rival even Benito. Keep up the good work – we need more good satirists posting comments!
You got me wrong. I am dead serious. If the big boss of FBI doesn’t do his work the rest of his gang will twiddle their thumbs. We need to replace him fast even before we start building the wall.
gets my salute.
It goes a lot further than just goading. Several initial eyewitness accounts in San Bernidino, had three athletically built men doing the shooting. We have never seen not one security cam or smart phone video from the event. The FBI let the press trash the patsies apartment to find the planted jihad stuff.
The patsies rented a SUV to haul around the shooters. Then the three shooters dumped the SUV back at the Patsies house. A couple hours later the man and women patsy realized that they had been set up, made an ill fated run for it.
I am generally very skeptical about Paki and Saudi blokes. They have been cheating us all the time and supplying us with fake terrorists whom we have to torture to find out if they are crooks or not. So let your theory rest in peace, I am not inclined to buy it. But don’t worry, solution is a few months away, provided you vote with your head and don’t let Crooked people continue this nonsense.
Dear Colonel Blimp: nobody takes you seriously.
I wouldn’t ever change your name to Khizr Kahn, so you please reciprocate. Thanks in advance for your cooperation in maintaining some semblance of decorum because I can imagine it takes a lot of effort from you.
Secondly, it is entirely your prerogative how seriously you consider my viewpoints. I am very serious about them, and so are a lot of my friends here. Maybe if we both take each other seriously we can have a fruitful dialog, like I enjoy with some of the other folks here.
Is your real name Ben Bache?
Tear up Texas. Bomb Boston. Dead witnesses tell no tales. Release all the raw data on these cases.
“We just don’t know what happened in this case, but it’s a real warning sign that the foreseeable consequences of acts are now unknown,” she adds. In none of the previous cases is the FBI known to have actively encouraged violence, nor dealt with anyone equipped and prepared to carry out an imminent, violent act. Here they seemingly did both.
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/02/25/waltham-murders-boston-marathon/
I have long suspected there was something off about Boston, actually — if not the incident itself, then the investigation that followed. I dont think I am alone in wondering why and how it went down the way it did; I know the media also found it a bit odd, though I think in the ensuing trauma and zeal for justice, a lot of the stranger things got swept aside (and it is hard to blame the media for that when people want blood).
“something off”, like the mercenaries (the craft) standing around with bulging black backpacks (not white like Tamerlain carried) near the finish line. Afterwards the mercenaries were running around with radiation detectors???
No idea about that and I dont want to hypothesise about that sort of stuff. I was thinking about how people conveniently were killed under questionable (no pun intended) circumstances.
i would suspect that todachev was a hired killer for whoever.
maybe todachev got bold and went for broke.
and the police and agents were happy to oblige him.
the whole situation is very scarfaced.
No offense but that sounds like something the CIA would cook up.
Death threats are not to be taken lightly. Wasnt he chained up? Not alone.
We indulge in petty domestic squabbles all the time, and meanwhile the fluttering Turkeys have agreed with the doped Russians to lay the TurkStream pipeline that will flood Europe with Russian gas. This is a very big loss for our great friends like Qatar and KSA who have been eyeing the market with consummate lust.
I am very, very suspicious about whether or not the Russians hacked into our top-secret and NSA-certified servers to learn about the planning of the coup in Turkey, and subsequently alerted Erdogan just in time to escape. And they may have also jammed the rogue F16’s with their advanced S-400 system operating from Syria. Nothing is impossible unless proven otherwise. Erdogan’s sudden love for Putin is highly suspicious and, instead of using our resources wisely and securing our servers, here we have FBI indulging in childish activities that benefit only our adversaries.
We have hundreds of nukes in Turkey. We obviously can’t keep them there now, since this Erdogan fellow isn’t at all reliable. Bringing them all here intact is also foolish. I think it will be a good idea to test a few and see if the ISIS blokes can see the arrival of their judgment day.
Bottom-line, we need the wall, and a President who can secure our servers and our nation properly. FBI is not doing a good job at all and this administration is keep them at work only to exonerate those who lie all the time.
Not only is the FBI doing a horrible job — the FBI is fueling the violence that it pretends that it wants to prevent. When the truth eventually outs, many will be astounded and horrified.
The FBI can do a great job if they get proper instructions and guidance. We have the best people in the world who can identify and neutralize moderate Islamic jihadists from miles away. For the last eight years our administration of hope and change has hopelessly changed their work ethics, which is why you see this happening. But we will build the wall and the FBI together and make them great and strong.
While I’m less than pleased with the current administration, what’s transpiring on U.S. soil predates Obama. And those being targeted are not just “Islamic jihadists”, but rather some good, law-abiding citizens.
The test for law abiding citizens is whether or not they fall for jihad-pushing informants. Unfortunately, a few fail the test and they are followed up for being confined in secured cages to prevent harm to themselves and collateral damage to others around, as they are unnaturally prone to suicide-bombing.
But you should not mind about being labeled moderate type Islamic jihadists. In our opinion the moderate ones are good folks whom we support all the time. We give them all types of weapons short of nukes so they go and fight the radical type Islamic jihadists as well as the official Syrian army whom we want to replace because of their uneasy alignment with Iran who is destabilizing the region by threatening our friends like Israel and Saudis. So if you don’t mind, it is okay to be moderate Islamic jihadist, and for all practical purposes we consider them at par with good BLM folks and legal Latinos.
“Russians hacked into our top-secret and NSA-certified servers ..”?
not a chance.
i read that not one line of executeable code goes to the processor without a certified source.
they do not use microsoft windows, unless they got stupid.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-attack-can-steal-your-username-password-and-other-logins/
then- yeah, the russians would be the landlords and the nsa renting space
my opinion.
Director Comey himself testified that the Russians did not hack into Hillary Clinton’s servers, so that it was okay Hillary was negligent but no harm was done and so she could be forgiven for this lapse.
This argument can now be used as evidence that Russians did not hack into any of the servers, as certified by Director Comey himself.
fightgangstalking.com
Gavin Long and others.
It’s an outrage. Get it exposed.
But a lot of good Americans will lose their jerbs if don’t continue the program!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLKuPPe1IhY
If Ron Wyden knows about this sh*t , he should have exposed it long, long ago. (I’ll watch the video. )
The undercover FBI agent should be indicted as a co-conspirator in a terror attack. People get arrested for contributing to Muslim charities which are merely accused of funding terrorism. This MF-er participated in a crime. His stooges were obviously hapless bozos who couldn’t shoot straight, as opposed to the American military-trained cop killers which the FBI commonly misses. The FBI and CIA should both be de-funded. Let them get their blood money through drug smuggling like the other criminal organizations.
The families of the shooters should also sue the FBI for wrongful death.
Can you say, Manchurian Candidates?
I tend to wonder how often this occurs in what I can only dub as “stings gone dreadfully wrong”. Do we even ever find out the truth? I find it incredibly difficult to believe that after basically (wittingly or not) encouraging acts of terrorism (in the guise of preventing it, of course) things dont go wrong more often than we hear about (probably those outside of the immediate people involved dont hear about it either; thin blue line or whatever).
“But testing the willingness of suspects to take certain steps in a conspiracy is one thing; actively encouraging them to commit a violent, criminal act is another.”
Adversarial journalism and terrorism are two concepts that mean whatever you want it to mean.
It’s simply NOT journalism to attribute your opinions by quoting like-minded people… sorta like when Fox tries to prove a point by quoting a neo con. If you call BS when Fox does it but you fail to do it here also, you are part of the problem.
In other words, you’re baffled.
Since when is quoting experts not a way to support an opinion?
For example, you really need an expert to justify how you used “attribute”, which everyone else thinks is a transitive verb (or a noun).
charlie sequel can’t even conceive of what he would do if an expert of some sort supported his opinion
“Yer doin’ a heckofajob, Comey!”