Donald Trump’s plan to apply an “ideological screening test” on would-be immigrants has been denounced as “un-American” and “a nonstarter.” But the U.S. government already can and does bar immigration on ideological grounds – and has abused that power.
In addition to dramatically expanding government surveillance, the Patriot Act passed by Congress soon after the 9/11 terror attacks allows the State Department to exclude anyone who it determines “undermines the United States efforts to reduce or eliminate terrorist activities.”
The Bush administration used that power to deny entry to leftist activists and administration critics. The list of those denied visas includes South African anti-apartheid activist Adam Habib, Greek economist Yiannis Milios, Nicaraguan reformist and academic Dora Maria Tellez, Bolivian scholar Waskar Ari, and English hip-hop singer M.I.A. — just to name a few.
In 2004, the Bush administration denied entry to Tariq Ramadan, an internationally renowned scholar of Islam and prominent Iraq war critic, who had accepted a tenured position at the University of Notre Dame. Two years later, the ACLU filed suit on behalf of Ramadan — and won — after the government failed to demonstrate any terrorism connection.
But the court did not rule on whether the section of the Patriot Act is constitutional, and it remains on the books to this day.
The Obama administration has also blocked people of certain viewpoints from entering the United States. In 2011, the State Department denied a visa for Kerim Yildiz, a prominent Kurdish rights activist who lives in Britain and was traveling to the United States to accept an award. After the ACLU and PEN sent a joint letter of protest, the State Department issued Yildiz a visa.
In 2013, Palestinian film director Emad Burnat was detained in the Los Angeles Airport and threatened with deportation. He was allowed to enter the United States after security learned he was on his way to the Oscars.
Trump’s proposal would go much further, of course. Trump is calling for every immigrant to be given an actual test, to screen out not only “sympathizers of terrorist groups,” but anyone with “hostile attitudes towards our country and its principles.”
Trump also suggested he was a fan of the McCarran-Walter Act. “In the Cold War, we had an ideological screening test. The time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today,” Trump said Monday.
After it was passed in 1952, the act quickly became a tool to bar leftist intellectuals and peace activists — including Palestinian poet Mahmoud Darwish and Nobel-laureate authors Carlos Fuentes and Gabriel Garcia Marquez. In the 1950s, the U.S. even blocked Pierre Trudeau, a progressive intellectual from Canada who went on to become the country’s prime minister in 1968.
Civil liberties advocates have promised to fight any return to Cold War-era policies of exclusion.
“It would raise serious concerns if the government were to decide on a list of acceptable viewpoints, thoughts, and beliefs for Americans, and exclude anyone who failed to conform,” said Dror Ladin, an attorney with the ACLU’s National Security Project, in an email to The Intercept.
Trump’s proposal was greeted with widespread condemnation — and mockery — with some critics saying Trump would not pass his own test. Hillary Clinton released an ad highlighting his past proposal to ban Muslims, his racial comments about a Mexican judge, and his refusal to denounce David Duke, the former grand wizard of the KKK.
Top photo: U.S. Customs and Border Protection screening international travelers at Miami International Airport in Florida on March 4, 2015.
Dear Mr. Emmons, long beofre you were born, this ‘Nicaraguan reformist and academic Dora Maria Tellez’ was a well-known terrorist, a Sandinista. Do your homework before writing this. Secondly, no country has any obligation to issue visas to anybody it considers dangerous or simply problematic. It’s being sovereign, period.
What a stupid article. There is no “right to visit”. But there is no “ideology test” either … a country can decide who is granted entry and who is not. Trump’s sweeping statement is horrible because it targets a specific population rather than an individual basis. My gosh this is poor work.
Somebody doesn’t sound self-aware
Control over who may enter this country’s space, if controlled by the government, will always be subject to political control.
AWAY WITH BORDERS! Or, at least, control over who may cross them.
Testing for how much someone loves a faking U$A?
Will it be true or false?
Will it be multiple choice?
Will it involve waterboarding?
Will it involve recklessly murdering people you don’t know?
I’m sure it will be based upon an “honorable” system,
like it is already (NOT).
CONTRIBUTION
‘Partners in Crime’ or Misunderstood Handling of the Clinton Foundation?
Aug. 16, 2016 12:00pm
By Susan Calloway Knowles, for TheBlaze
Susan Calloway Knowles
Susan Calloway Knowles, is a licensed Psychotherapist and former practicing Family Law Attorney, Author, Host of “Stand For Truth” radio show on WNJC1360 AM and online, guest appearances on The Rick Amato Show at One America News Network, and a political/cultural Blogger. Susan is also an avid investigative researcher having honed her skills in the legal profession. Susan’s website, SusanKnowles.com, covers articles she has written on an array of topics, including governmental interference of U.S. Constitutional rights, military and veterans’ issues, issues pertaining to California from the viewpoint of a conservative living in a Blue State, and other hot topics in the news. Susan’s book, a political fiction, is entitled “Freedom’s Fight: A Call to Remember,” and is available on Amazon.
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The Clinton Foundation has recently come under fire for questionable activities. Most notably, the foundation’s financial dealings and it’s “charitable” donations have been scrutinized because of the appearance that the Clintons have profited personally.
I interviewed two-time number one New York Times bestselling author Dr. Jerome Corsi on my show, Stand For Truth Radio, to get his opinion about the Clinton Foundation. Corsi recently wrote a book about the Clinton Foundation titled, “Partners in Crime: The Clintons’ Scheme To Monetize The White House For Personal Profit.”
In his book, Corsi exposes how the Clintons “amassed hundreds of millions of dollars in personal net worth, while building a $2 billion empire in the Clinton Foundation.”
Former U.S. Secretary of State and first lady Hillary Clinton speaks at a press conference announcing a new initiative between the Clinton Foundation, United Nations Foundation and Bloomberg Philanthropies, titled Data 2x on December 15, 2014 in New York City. Data 2x aims to use data-driven analysis to close gender gaps throughout the world. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)
Former U.S. Secretary of State and first lady Hillary Clinton speaks at a press conference announcing a new initiative between the Clinton Foundation, United Nations Foundation and Bloomberg Philanthropies, titled Data 2x on December 15, 2014 in New York City. Data 2x aims to use data-driven analysis to close gender gaps throughout the world. (Photo by Andrew Burton/Getty Images)
“Basically the Clintons have not stated correctly the amount of money they have received or disbursed. They’ve hidden money. They’ve reorganized corporate structures…The financial records of the Clinton Foundation since inception are an obvious criminal fraud,” Corsi said.
“The charge that is easiest to prove is that the Clintons used the foundation to enrich themselves,” Corsi added.
Corsi says that this criminal fraud can be proven by searching the audited financial statements of the Clinton Foundation “since inception and by examining the regulatory filings.”
Corsi has even brought into question the legitimacy of some of the actions taken by the foundation. He pointed out that the foundation has undergone several name changes since it originally began and additionally has set up various subgroups, seemingly without following proper legal channels in order to claim non-profit status.”
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/partners-in-crime-or-misunderstood-handling-of-the-clinton-foundation/
Yes of course we already try
Trump says we should do it well
Obama’s daddy issues regarding his muslim father has hurt his judgement
I see it that way to some extent as well. Much of what Trump proposes can be summed up as: “Let’s just openly embrace what we already do quietly.”
Lies are always sweet, and truth is always bitter.
That’s why Hillary is the favorite of Black Lies Matter folks.
Would that be pretend principles, or principles applied in practice?
The U.S. has been restricting immigration on the basis of political beliefs since the anarchist exclusion act was passed in the early 1900s.
Albert Einstein was a Socialist, but they let him in anyway for some reason.
http://www.exponentialimprovement.com/cms/uploads/Einstein%20on%20Why%20Socialism.pdf
Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president. Now he’s running up the score.
It is very shameful the way our president bends down to the Saudi kings. I am going to bet the Saudis will kneel down in front of Donald Trump and beg his mercy when together we all decide to make America great again.
It is interesting that most of those ideologically excluded are on the left. By contrast, the US has been more than willing to let Nazis in, both in the past and in the present (From Right Sector leaders to NazBol ally Garry Kasparov).
What left?The left went right and is now Zion.
Jesus aint current either, and if you mean actual people working for the common good, Trump is the only one left it seems,with all the rest for some foreign nation that spies on US,bribes our politicians and causes US absolute misery,witness the PNAC and our demise.
And zionism is the real the ideology behind this whole f*cking mess,not Muslim jihad revenge,so watch out Israel.Yee haw!
An online friend of mine from New Zealand married an American citizen. She had her visa and her plane ticket, and was planning to fly with him to the US, and was denied entry at the last minute due to her “politics”.
She tells me that she only got involved in politics once, something to do with a protest about US satellites.
Her husband died of cancer in the US. She never was able to get here.
That’s on who’s administration?
My own perspective is that if we let around a million Vietnamese into the country over a decade after that U.S.-sponsored debacle, we might as well do the same with the debacles we sponsored in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. I mean, take responsibility for your actions, right?
When I was a kid growing up in Northern California, I was friends with the children of this South Vietnamese military officer who fled in the early 1970s; one of them had a messed-up spine probably from Agent Orange exposure. The Nguyens, I recall (which is a very common Vietnamese name).
Here, read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jimmy-nguyen/a-vietnamese-refugees-thanksgiving-hope-syria_b_8658638.html
The problem with Clinton of course is that in office, she’ll create even more waves of refugees with reckless actions like the Honduran coup, the Libya disaster, the Syrian “no fly zone”, etc. If Obama and Clinton hadn’t played these stupid regime change games, there wouldn’t be any need to take in Syrian refugees.
Just imagine Trump’s domestic policy coupled to Hillary’s foreign policy – absolute nightmare. But, the other way around, that wouldn’t be so bad. Maybe.
I have personal knowledge that mexicans are laundering money thru restaurants. Lots of them. They only hire their gang relateds. It is pervasive. You dont see it as a customer because you get the all smiley but with detectable a hint of resentment if you are sensitive to it. My position at that time was under cover. Northern california is a termite’s nest. These people kill without thinking twice, or once. An American girl, celebrating her last night before going into the Army, was stabbed and stuffed into a trash can, typically mexican style.
The cozy nostrums, employ them in their money laundering restaurants and use them as courriers. It was bad 15 years ago. It’s much worse now. Believe me, there are so many people who would rather sell drugs or steal for a living it’s epidemic. That includes wallstreet.
And? When I lived in Northern California, outside this town called Oroville, when it had one of the highest murder rates in the country – mostly due to white biker gangs fighting and killing each other over methamphetamine sales.
I moved from there to the Bay Area, right outside East Palo Alto, which soon became the murder capital of the country – mostly due to black gangs fighting and killing each other over crack cocaine sales.(LA Times Jan 5, 1993 – E. Palo Alto Murder Rate Worst in U.S.; Drug Wars Blamed)
These were all American citizens; I don’t see how immigrants as a group could be any worse than that. It was basically complete chaos in both places in many areas.
However, I definitely don’t believe in unrestricted immigration – see economist Ha-Joon Chang for an explanation, from 23 Things They Don’t Tell You About Capitalism:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/aug/29/ha-joon-chang-23-things
I’ve seen this myself; I worked for a while as a quality control lab tech at a vitamin company that used dozens of undocumented immigrants on the production line, brought in every day by bus by a subcontractor; I’d go over and get samples for tests from them. They were paid sub-minimum wage. The owner of the company was a big donor to the local city politicians. One day, one worker lost his finger in the machinery; never seen again. Probably went back to Mexico for medical care. You can find this company’s products (oh hell, Source Naturals) in every high-end “all natural” store (i.e. Whole Foods, etc.). I quit soon after that – their testing lab was a utter hazard, shoestring budget, and they told me to fudge the lead contamination tests from imported Chinese herbs to make them pass, no kidding.
However, they weren’t criminals – but the result was depressed wages, and it was like working with prisoners, not free people – they were always paranoid because ICE could round them up at any time – but, again, the owner paid his political money and so never had any problems in that area.
And this is why I don’t think Clinton or Trump will actually do a thing to stop this, because they’re associated with business interests who make huge profits by using cheap immigrant labor to cut costs, and they like it that the labor can be deported if they try to unionize or anything like that. If they want to stop it, all they have to do is go after the subcontractors who supply the labor – but they don’t, do they? A blanket ban on subcontracted labor? Agribusiness would howl bloody murder, so would construction firms, etc. It would make them directly liable for skirting employment rules.
Another solution is to fix conditions in Mexico such that people aren’t so desperate; get rid of NAFTA, implement border tariffs and taxes, this is a step in the right direction. But deporting millions of people is no solution, that’s just insane.
One final point, is that California’s medical cannabis laws and dispensaries have drastically reduced the ability of criminal gangs to profit off imported cannabis from Mexico, and this has led to crime reduction across the state; as above, a huge amount of violent crime is directly linked to people fighting over illegal drug sales, regardless of race.
“You dont see it as a customer because you get the all smiley but with detectable a hint of resentment if you are sensitive to it.”
Paranoid racist assholes always talk this way. I grew up in Southern California, and as a white guy, all sorts of white people shared their finely tuned “sensitivities” with me, figuring I would sympathize.
A favorite of mine was the “they are talking Spanish just so I won’t understand that they are saying bad things about me” bit. God, I used to hear that one all the time.
Isn’t that a crux of the problem,a nation divided by language into a tower of babel?
When in Rome do as the Romans do,always seemed the height of civility,but today its not,for some smug America haters.
Typical divide and conquer BS.
The Vietnamese didn’t then turn on fellow American citizens for being Americans,so your comparison is off,and most of those Vietnamese had nowhere to turn to,being considered traitors for working with US,so a more comparable situation is all the lackeys we nurtured in Iraq and Afghanistan to come here,but I don’t think that’s going to happen either(maybe some?).
This whole disaster is because we have let Zion manipulate US into stupidity after stupidity,in complete ignorance and gullibility,and believing making the world insecure would lead to our being secure.
America First will end this cycle of nonsense,and of course the remedy will not be immigrant friendly in that regard,so all this hand wringing is just political finger pointing. from the already corrupt,venal and lying Obomba administration for its chosen cover up operative,HRC.
I hope Trump opens their can of worms wide open.
Trump’s proposal would go much further, of course. Trump is calling for every immigrant to be given an actual test, to screen out not only “sympathizers of terrorist groups,” but anyone with “hostile attitudes towards our country and its principles.” AH GEE. Obviously Hellary Clinton will object to this. So will all persons invading the US across the border. And so will wallstreet.
Americans who are more afraid of foreigners than of other Americans haven’t really been paying attention very well now have they.
not sure how you mean that.
i’ll take a *stab* at it.
Americans have been fooled into trusting persons they elect to preserve the American way and maintain the healthy balance between security and freedom without trespassing the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.
The people in America relied on the US wallstreet madison avenue media to tell the truth and give proper weight to issues.
But the wallstreet worshipping money-changers and their whores have screwed that all up. So what it is that Americans have not been paying attention to since 1913 is now being pushed in their face like jack popping out of his box (great burgers, real meat btw).
The fear of foreigners is as old as the planet. But the issue was ALWAYS a matter of settling and occupation vs passing thru as traders with goods. That will never change and probably shouldn’t. Ask any Palestinian.
Dude, you’re scary and scared at the same time.
good call: scary & scared is the usual authoritarian combo
Typical American hating statement.
The poor unwashed,who make up about 99% of the military,are scared of boogeymen.
No,its the dual citizen illiberal scum which drove this war of terror,as every one of their rotten scribes of Zion promoted and promote every stupid thing which has made America a target of righteous wrath from jihadis,as 9-11 to the present bear witness.
Eat poopie.
Even though foreigners don’t have a constitutional right to come to the U.S., I agree that negative ideological tests of this type are dumb anyway. It’s not quite the usual idea of censorship, but like censorship it doesn’t work.
The more practical approach is simply to wall off immigration from countries with poor standards of religious freedom – such as prohibitions on apostasy and conversion, which together pretty much paint the entire Muslim world and not much else. Then we create positive exemptions for specific groups of people, such as Copts and Yazidis, whose religions differ from the ‘dominant religion’ in such countries, creating a clear risk of persecution. The effect is nearly the same as Trump – to wall off Muslim immigration – with the exception of a few Muslims from England or someplace else not on the list of countries. And even those countries still have a chance to warn us about terrorists and criminals, and are more trustworthy to do so.
The problem with taking people from hard-core Muslim countries who don’t call for killing apostates is that we’re talking about looking for people who have never said a word politically, who don’t dare. These aren’t believers in freedom … they’re ready-made moles and agents, people way too good at keeping their mouths shut. We don’t actually want these people, no matter how careful they were not to say anything. The one that spoke up and said he believed in stoning people can at least change his mind – these people, we’ll never know till we feel the knife start sawing into our neck.
Actually, it would be more honest and a lot easier just to come out and say that we are simply not going to let any Muslims into the country.
Trump is a practical bigot. You cannot even say that.
We aren’t in Kansas anymore?
And as it already is practiced by our government,isn’t it all hysteria?
When in war,and of course we are in the War of Terror,,one limits those from enemy nations,or in this case regions,as the people who want to harm US are not nation based.
Simple preventive measures,and ended,usually,when hostilities end.It’s happened before,and unfortunately,unless everyone morphs into Jesus Christ,will happen again.
Do you think the Hell Bitch will end the War of Terror?sheesh.
There is a solution for that – used long ago in the sword wars, before muskets. The US marines [i believe] were once called LEATHERNECKS.
Hellary on the other hand might say-
“Freedom of religion is not a problem because what difference does it makes. We dont punish people for what they believe but what they do. Besides, you cant spend beliefs.”
And then of course there are the real hackers – the ones who prefer machetes.
Choose your pain.
There’s nothing practical about that. You’d be denying entry to religious minorities from those countries. What if they are escaping religious persecution? You’d be denying entry to investors, specialists, etc.
Hillary is wasting her money. She should be hitting Trump on economic issues. His economic policy is tax breaks for himself and his friends. I don’t know of a single economic policy aimed at the middle class or working class.
I’m looking at the Green Party. They have Ellen Brown down for Treasury. That would be worth voting for. The Greens should tout Ellen Brown and Public Banking more.
I believe I heard him say no taxes for those making under 25,000?
The return of good paying jobs,instead of retail and fast food hell,will help US immeasurably.
Any economic crap from the HB is BS,as she is a shameless liar,and is only doing the usual Clinton triangulation to screw the American people once again.
Is Trump conflating immigration visas and visitor visas?
Given that our Constitution specifies separation of Church and State, that rules out Israelis and Saudis, doesn’t it? Islamic State, Jewish State – and the Chinese, no Bill of Rights, no free speech – they’re out . . . and Europe, restrictive gun laws, no Second Amendment. . . there goes tourism.
http://www.ibtimes.com/us-received-record-number-visitors-2012-thanks-these-15-countries-1300347
And don’t immigrants have to learn the Constitution of the United States as part of the immigration process, anyway?
Clinton vs. Trump – do you want the international war disaster (Hillary) or the domestic division disaster (Trump)? Decisions, decisions. . . you want to have your foot chopped off, or your hand?
Yes,tourists spend a lot of dough and yes the Chinese,Japanese and S Koreans have money to burn,because we’ve outsourced Americas wealth to them in some wacky nation destroying neolibcon disaster fomented by dual citizens and traitor politicians.
He doesn’t mean tourists,as his own businesses are built on tourism,as a hotel and gambling magnate.
He is talking Muslims,and by extension,hopefully,the zionists,the real ideologues behind our misery.I feel for the Muslims,they are victims also,but America First precludes stupidity,sorry.
Do you think that if elected,that a terror attack on US that the MSM would give him the teflon treatment they gave the shrub and then Obomba?(and the HB)No way.
And the total opprobrium sent his way by the obvious zionist MSM criminals,should open his eyes.
I know of no American citizen who believes in open borders,except divide and conquer advocates,like the zionists,btw.
I just don’t get the concern for illegal immigration at all,although I do have concern for the nation states destroyed by the neoliberals like bent dick,his wife,the shrub and obomba.
Hellholes of neocapitalism and its inherent destruction,everything Trump is against. The peoples of the region will end up cheering for Trump if he can set back the monsters agenda.
What drives your concern for immigrants anyway?
It’s not on an American citizens concern list at all,or maybe #99.
????
Trump’s proposal was greeted with widespread condemnation — and mockery — with some critics saying Trump would not pass his own test.
What a load of B.S.
When you resort to the use of unnamed “some critics” opinions, you’ve lost your argument.
Dear Stupid: Read the next sentence after the one you quoted. I think “some critics” get named. One of them is kind of famous, even. But biased, definitely biased.
Regards,
Your Secret Admirer
Here is the next sentence, you little dick-sucking fey.
“Hillary Clinton released an ad highlighting his past proposal to ban Muslims, his racial comments about a Mexican judge, and his refusal to denounce David Duke, the former grand wizard of the KKK.”
Now show me where “some critics” get named for specifically making this comment:
“with some critics saying Trump would not pass his own test.”
There are NONE named. Hillary’s ads did not address that comment.
You are a fool, we all know it, so stop with your juvenile remarks, you dick-sucking little boy.
oh no, you bolded the whole sentence and it covered up all the links! You know those little linky things. They are fat like caterpillars. You click them and stuff and then it’s like….cue the music …..Victoria Boulevard’s melting in the dark, all the sweet green icing flowing down, someone left her brain out in the rain…
Try it, it’s like taking a trip on some jefferson airplane glue……go on, do it. DO IT. TRY IT. CLICK THE LINK and merge with the cosmic all. I don’t think that I can take it, cause you took so long to fake it….
One of the greatest displays of foolishness on this site is the one who accuses others of being immature and follows it up with gradeschool bigotry.
Perhaps if you did not continuously make clear your hatred of pleasurable acts, you would not have such blatant reasons for your readily observable bitterness.
My guess is that “little”, from your perspective, applies to anyone whose legs are capable of supporting their weight in an upright position.
Unnamed persons is the ghostly strawman that msm likes to beat Americans with. The msm mistake freedom of speech for free to lie and deceive.
Well, this is what happens when you take Victoria B’s word for something without checking it out for yourself, barabbas: you end up looking like an idiot.
You just can’t stop digging, eh, dick-sucker?
I can’t stop digging you! You’re so funky. You’re so dope.
Cute deflection, dick-sucker.
What, no real answer?
You really are hung up on this whole dick-sucking thing, huh.
Very revealing of your personality.
I think you may be mistaken when you act as if dick-sucking is
a bad thing.
I am far from sure that the world wouldn’t be a better place
if more men spent more time sucking each other off.
Homosexuals today are mostly rabid Russian and Muslim haters,and Caligula? and his brethren were real humanitarians huh?The Greeks were freaks?
Sexual preference and logic shouldn’t be in conflict,but unfortunately are today.
You are extrapolating and assuming a huge amount.
All I said was that
I am far from sure
and that is based upon my suspicions about
WHY
calling someone a cocksucker is commonly accepted as derogatory
when I strongly suspect huge numbers of men fantasize about
having the act performed on themselves.
It is a patriarchal hypocrisy and it is commonly accepted
as a woman’s position and a put down within the
corruption of male domination.
I have no idea what is “mostly” believed by homosexuals and
I do not believe that you do either.
As for Caligula, I think he had as much in common with
George W. Bush and Obama when it came to his indifference to
the slaughter of innocent people, but I’m pretty sure he didn’t
like to go golfing while it was happening.
As a queer male, I have found other queer men and women to be more receptive to arguments against the demonization of Islam and Russia than most of the breeders I encounter. Perhaps it is because we have first hand knowledge of how smear campaigns work.
In fact, it is breeders who try to tell me that being queer, I must be crazy to not goosestep behind their propagandistic lies.
You have to go back to Caligula to justify your bigotry, thus overlooking Alan Turing (the one person most responsible for the defeat of the Axis powers in WWII), Abraham Lincoln who regularly shared his bed with his bodyguard, as well as other male friends, Michaelangelo, Glen Greenwald, Oscar Wilde, etc.
Yes, many queer folk dislike those that they have bern told actively persecute them, for obvious reasons. This is a fault of propaganda, however, not queerness.
Well, it only took me 20 seconds to pull up some of the critics who said this:
– Washington Examiner
– Times of India
Perhaps not very prominent or unbiased critics, but hey.
Please specify exactly which “ideological tests” Trump would not pass, and which critics say so…
Your diatribe is not exactly doing your preferred candidate any favors – unless that preferred candidate is Hillary Clinton? For example, I generally assume that the most virulently racist anti-semitic posters here are actually working for Israel or AIPAC . . . the real ones tend to hang out at 4chan or Stormfront or similar wacko sites. Not that I’d ever vote for Trump, or for Clinton, but rational discussion is better than bug-eyed frothing-at-the-mouth. Why not go spew somewhere else, Madam Troll?
Again a deflection away from the issue, because there is no good answer.
So lick my pussy, you shithead punk.
What are you, 13 years old and can’t monitor your own mouth?
I just love people who talk smack sitting quietly behind a keyboard in the safety of their own trailer.
You’re so brave, aren’t you? Tell me, does your inferiority complex keep you awake at night?
This is totally off-topic, and I apologise for that, but every time I see you post here I keep misreading your nym as Victoria Bitter (a coaster of which is one of the few things I carry around, because it is really good when it’s nice and frosty, VB is). :) Wouldn’t mind one right now, actually. Ok, back to the topic at hand.
It’s all good. Any thread beginning with a VB post cannot, by definition, go “off” topic.
“lick my p*ssy”
Do you even have one?
You’ve done the virtually impossible! Asked an idiotic question that even Hillary Clinton can easily and truthfully answer. Wow, you are just teh awesome.
Perhaps.sheesh.
You just cannot stop making and obvious errors of fact, just like your icon. Did you try clicking the links embedded after that sentence you quote?
God, you are an idiot, shown so many many times.
Say, you want to tell all the nice people here some more about how Donald Trump is right that Obama created ISIS with his bad idea to leave Iraq in 2011, and how I was this fierce HRC supporter in ’08? Also, do expand on your view that black people are “apes” and “baboons” who lack “sufficient grey matter,” and how “Jew-thugs” were responsible for Kristallnacht that got oh-so-wrongly blamed on those poor Nazis?
Yes indeed, you are as smart, fact-based, reliable and enlightened as your fuhrer, Mr. Trump.
The best thing about Donald Trump supporters is that we all have very good manners. You are the exception. Could you please modify your habits and show some respect to the other folks here, even if they don’t measure up to your expectations?
We had blocked the entry of Indian Prime Minister Mode for many years because he massacred millions of moderate Muslim terrorists as a governor before he got elected as Prime Minister. I would like to know how he is now being entertained here on a regular basis, and under whose patronage.
I am told he has a Chinese assistant called Jet Li who should also be banned from coming here unnecessarily.
Ha ha h a ha
General Hercules, where did you find out about Jet Li? I am amazed at your in-depth knowledge of India.
Your comment has three factual mistakes, but I won’t point them out.
Your comment actually has four factual mistakes, but I won’t point them out.
My Paki neighbor, a retires Maj Gen, comes sometimes to drink. So I have to hear his non-sense, which I think he often makes up. He hates Mode. I thought he was president but thanks to you for correcting me. Maybe Jet Li story is his creation after four shots.
@General Hercules -Jet Li exists, he, Amit Shah and Modi make up a trio, though sometimes Modi gets worried that Jet Li actually aspires to be Prime Minister himself, which he does. Some Indian folks on twitter who hate Jet Li but are too scared to use his name because of the threat of retribution call him Jet Li, as if they are attacking the Chinese.
Arun Jaitley is a dangerous and untrustworthy man.
Its Modi with an i. Gujarat riots killed around 2500 moderate Muslims when Modi was Chief Minister of the State of Gujarat. We have Governors here, but they are also titular heads of our federal units like the President is the titular head of the Indian State.
We should send the three of them to fight ISIS.
Typo: “…Palestinian poet Mahmood Darish”.
It’s “Darwish”. (And people usually spell his first name “Mahmoud”, but I guess there can be different transliterations of that.)
Good idea! Because everybody knows terrorists *never* lie about their ideology on tests!
You shouldn’t allow your enemy easy access to your homeland. Who do we call an enemy?
If congress has declared war on an ideology, then those who are adherents should be blocked. Otherwise, they are simply another political party.
I think we would do well as engineers to look at politics more like the TCP/IP protocol stack, Tootsie pop. Unfortunately there seems to be an endless number of layers. Peeling away just one probably won’t do much good, as has been evidenced so many times throughout history. I have become exhausted by this election cycle. I wish it would just end.
I find it helpful to visual Trump and Clinton wrestling for the Presidency in a mud pit, dressed in WWF outfits. Laughter is the best medicine, in an otherwise grim situation.
Thanks for the chuckle and the imagery. I have actually visualised similar scenarios with different people (behind the curtain). I think part of my problem is that I tend to see the people we get to see as simply performers on a stage (ala Shakespeare). I agree about laughter. But it is hard to laugh all the time (and I worry that sometimes it can even be counterproductive). The world is an incredibly messed-up place.
Really hoping you don’t have access to my homeland.
also laughing at you for writing as though the following were a legal, possible or meaningful condition:
“If congress has declared war on an ideology, …”
‘As with more and more aspects of contemporary Russia, the best explanation was offered more than half a century ago by Hannah Arendt, when she defined the true role of Stalin’s party purges: they were “an instrument of permanent instability.” The state of permanent instability, in turn, was the ultimate instrument of control, which sapped the energies and attention of all. The best way to insure being able to strike when it is least expected is to scramble all expectations. Perhaps that’s why Vayno’s “Protocol” turns the time-space continuum into a maze.’
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-very-strange-writings-of-putins-new-chief-of-staff
The above article in the much declined New Yorker is caricatural and immanently unserious in almost every respect except in its applicability to the current state of American politics, which, as the article itself states, has come to be “monopolized by the state” and its multiplicative security agencies and apparatuses. Trump in light of this, would be a planned or propitious part of the “instrument of permanent instability” which allows paradoxically for the plutocratic state to prolong its decayed (geo)political hegemony, not least because of programmed instability’s ability to sap “the energies and attention of all.”
Fuck no. i agree we are all puzzle pieces on a larger board. Even Trump. Not sure why people are trying so hard to bringing Russia into this. Does this comment even belong here? Not that Arendt isn’t a good read, obviously.
(*Arendt was very good at calling out evil masquerading as other evil. On that note, I think I was probably too quick to consider evil banal; some evil is, but not all evil, clearly).
“Trump’s proposal was greeted with widespread condemnation — and mockery — with some critics saying Trump would not pass his own test.”
What does this even mean?
Either make your point with valid references, or SH*T the FU*K UP!
Here is an article that looks at how much it would cost American taxpayers to deport all illegal aliens currently living in the United States:
http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2016/03/the-high-cost-of-enforcing-current.html
The extreme cost of implementing such a program would make it extremely unpopular with taxpayers.
Ah, but just like Trump’s Wall of Stupidity, the ‘solution’ to getting the Americans who’d be stuck paying the bill to ignore all that it would cost them is to tell them Mexico will (magically) be forced to pay the bill. And the folks who can’t figure out that rather than hiring them at living wages, the work will instead go to either the for-profit prison corporations (at slave labour rates, which will actually be very profitable because the corporations will get collect the wages but not have to pay the prisoners) or to corporations set up to bring into the US plane loads of third world workers (who’ll be lucky to get paid even third world wages after all the fees get deducted from their wages) or most likely both, will BELIEVE.