Excerpts of Hillary Clinton’s remarks during paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, and other groups were leaked online Friday afternoon by WikiLeaks. Clinton, who was paid upwards of $225,000 per speech, earned more than $22 million on the paid speaking circuit after resigning as secretary of state.
The excerpts are revealed in an email from Tony Carrk, the research director of the Clinton campaign, to John Podesta, the campaign chairman, and other top campaign officials. Carrk, who did not respond to a request for comment, highlighted in the memo the most politically damaging quotes from each paid speech, under headers including “CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH,” “CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY,” and “CLINTON REMARKS ARE PRO KEYSTONE AND PRO TRADE.”
The wealth Clinton accumulated was a topic at the paid events.
Discussing middle class economic anxieties, Clinton told a crowd at a Goldman Sachs-sponsored speech that she is now “kind of far removed because the life I’ve lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven’t forgotten it.”
But the discussions were also an opportunity for Clinton to speak candidly about policy, politics, and her approach to governing.
Touching on her view of developing financial regulations, Clinton declared to a crowd of Goldman Sachs bankers that in order to “figure out what works,” the “people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry.”
At the Goldman Sachs Builders and Innovators Summit, Clinton responded to a question from chief executive Lloyd Blankfein, who quipped that you “go to Washington” to “make a small fortune.” Clinton agreed with the comment and complained about ethics rules that require officials to divest from certain assets before entering government. “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,” Clinton said.
At a speech for Morgan Stanley on April 18, 2013, Clinton praised the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction plan — which would reduce corporate tax rates while raising the Social Security age. “But Simpson-Bowles — and I know you heard from Erskine earlier today — put forth the right framework. Namely, we have to restrain spending, we have to have adequate revenues, and we have to incentivize growth. It’s a three-part formula,” she said.
Clinton also told a housing trade group in 2013 that on certain issues, she has “a public and a private position.” “If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least,” said Clinton. “So, you need both a public and a private position.”
The Intercept was the first media outlet to ask Clinton directly if she would release the transcripts of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. When approached at an event in Manchester, New Hampshire, Clinton laughed off the question.
The issue was raised again during the Democratic primary debates and in other media events. In February of this year, the New York Times editorial board called for Clinton to release her speech transcripts, declaring that voters “have every right to know what Mrs. Clinton told these groups.”
According to reports, the campaign reviewed the speech transcripts but decided against releasing them out of fear that she would appear too friendly to banks and other donor interest groups.
But there are signs in the emails released by WikiLeaks that she also took a fairly progressive stance on certain topics, including health care reform.
During a talk in Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2013, Clinton praised the single-payer model for health care reform. “If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care,” she said, adding that there were some drawbacks. “They do impose things like waiting times, you know.”
But during the campaign this year, she dismissed the idea, declaring that single payer will “never, ever” happen in the U.S. Audio obtained by The Intercept last week showed Clinton dismissing the concept of free health care during another private event with donors.
And it’s not just excerpts that have been leaked. THE ENTIRE SPEECHES have been leaked – not just excerpts –
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/15/498085611/wikileaks-claims-to-release-hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs-transcripts
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5205
Here are the full transcripts (click the Attachments tab):
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11011#attachments
She claims she sees Goldman as having done nothing wrong. That she doesn’t understand what CDOs are – but the fact is one of the biggest, crookedest deals behind the mortgage meltdown that crashed the worldwide economy was a CDO scam done by Goldman Sachs. From working on Wall Street, I know what CDOs are and understand the scam. There haven’t been criminal charges filed against any executives, but the crime was so egregious that despite Goldman’s huge political power, it has agreed to pay a $5.1 BILLION fine. (Sort of; google it.) To me, it’s dog whistle talk; she’s saying she’ll look the other way; Wall St can do whatever it wants.
PS Why do you link to buzzfeed, of all things, instead of directly to documents at wikileaks.org when linking to the transcripts of the paid speeches?
The brass tax is that Hilldabeast does NOT feel your pain and never will.
She’s openly admitting to being two-faced with her “public and private positions” comment… She’s like “Yeah you need to lie to the masses, duh.”
Rather sad to see that the hypocrisy of this site, citing passages out of context while pretending to be a defender of truth. Reading the entire “public and private” passage shows indeed that it is just as Hillary stated in the debate, a point she made after mentioning Lincon’s use of the tectic. Frankly, I’m happy someone as smart as her will be the next president. And I think it’s a pretty dumb idea to expect every leader’s communications to be made public. Because it can be used to foist lies on the public. You have proved the point right here.
“Rather sad to see that the hypocrisy of this site, citing passages out of context while pretending to be a defender of truth.”
Citing things out of context that she could have jumped out in front of and explained herself?
Thats silly. You cant whine that information looks bad that you didnt want released to begin with. Withor without context it looks bad.
The ‘public’ and private’ statements by Hillary are just one of many examples of her duplicity. That is one reason that she cannot be trusted. It is better to hear the truth even when crudely expressed rather than deceptions eloquently expressed. Considering the volatile state of the world today the U.S. needs a leader who is willing to be politically correct rather than double-dealing. That would be Trump.
Enough is enough. “I didnt know” and “there were no casualties” will not cut it anymore. Hillary has committed 31 federal crimes according to Giuliani and should be sitting in jail. We won’t give her the White House.
Ever hear, “watch what they do, not what they say”? Of course Clinton says one thing in public and another to donors and other politicians. Virtually all politicians do this. I’m not saying it’s a good thing or even acceptable, but until and unless politicians start being held accountable for their lies, this is how it will be.
Just now, during the debate:
Her campaign, and the Hillbots here in comments.
Of course, what do I know? According to Hillary Clinton, I’m part of a “bucket of losers” who have “low social capital” rather than “successful” like her and all her friends at Goldman Sachs. That’s what she said about me, and those ideologically like me, in a lavishly compensated speech to the finest Americans — at Goldman Sachs
Well, Mona, if it makes you feel any better about your membership in the Bucket of Losers Club, I grew up in the very same Brooklyn housing project (Linden Houses) as Lloyd Blankfein. I will never understand how a person who grew up surrounded by hard working poor and middle class families (his father was a postal employee) ends up losing all respect for working people and the struggling poor. These people are all sociopaths that prey on the “loser bucket class” but Bernie seemed to be different. Now he should be ashamed of himself for endorsing her. This will be the first time in my life that I refuse to vote. I just can’t do it, thinking about my old housing project and all the people who have been victimized by these con artists and goons.
If there was ever a need for publicly funded elections in US elections, it’s now. If you remove the money from politics, you’re far more likely to see candidates whose main priority is the public interest. Kudos, again, to Wikileaks for speaking truth to power and exposing the appalling corruption in US politics.
If you think either Hillary or Trump will lead this country without aiding special interests you are wrong. This is all Hillary knows on how to be a politician and it is irresistible candy to Trump who sees personal profit from the deal. Just say enough, vote for anyone but those two. For me, Jill Stein and Green Party have my vote. I am crazy addicted to oxygen, clean water, and unpolluted land.
HRC represented NY in the Federal senate for eight years indulging the fraud & malfeasance then raided the US Treasury, a scam that somehow still continues; beside being a complicit crony, thief, & kleptocrat she also exploits others for profit. Corruption, disparity & austerity are in her wake.
How can anyone complain about a private conversation that Trump had that was probably feloniously taped, compared to what Hillary has said that bears on national security and policy?
Bush’s cousin tries to sink the anti Bush.sheesh.And the shrub will vote Hell Bitch.
WTF do people need?
Sachs of Gold really doesn’t care what she says, publicly or privately. paying her an amount that to 99% of US citizens is a small fortune, to speak for a few minutes, demonstrates that they control her, have her on a string, for the cost of a tiny crumb that fell from their gold table. $250,000 for banksters is infinitesimal, yet their pittance buys an invaluable string attached to hillary and bill by which they can parade them in front of the bankster community and make them dance on command. just pull the string to make her dance, make her smile, pass legislation written by the financial community because, you know, there is just too much regulation and banksters demand “fiscal certainty” for their kleptocracy. you betcha!
250k is actually in line with other high profile and celebrity speaking fees. Taylor Swift takes in 1mil+ to speak.
No thats per show, she is an entertainer not a politician that is supposed to be for “WE THE PEOPLE” but of course Killary is NOT FOR WE THE PEEONS!
I wonder how long the Clinton campaign has been saving the tapes of Trump making vulgar, jock locker room braggadocio, trash talking. Amazing how the corporate media who made Trump have turned on him. The “real” economic program of the wall St. toad Clinton, exposed by WikiLeaks has disappeared from the MSM like magic. Trump was saying things that most American men have said at one time in their lives; it’s like the pervert Priests and Coaches we like to pretend are rare but are actually commonplace. Trump was promoting women executives in the construction industry long before anyone else. The first Hispanic Miss. Universe was right after he took over the pageant. Is he a deeply flawed candidate; absolutely but that has become the norm in US Politics. Obama, Romney, McSame, Clinton..both male and female, Bush & Bush & Bush and on and on. I have no idea what Trump as POTUS would or could do; he won’t be dictator of America and even FDR was stymied by the SC when he tried to legislate a better society for working Americans but I do know what Clinton will do or attempt to do; more of the same although to give her her due; she may start even more wars.
The MSM made Trump?No way no how,they’ve been attacking him from day one.
The American people made Trump,and will again Nov.8.
Voting who is in out on Nov.8 will be our salvation. Screw party affiliation.
They will then.no matter the party,listen to US.
Believe what you will, but your claim is empirically untrue. See the Shorenstein Center’s analysis of pre-primary and primary media coverage.
http://shorensteincenter.org/pre-primary-news-coverage-2016-trump-clinton-sanders/
http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-presidential-primaries/
Trump has made stupid statements in his past causing damage to some(not sure how but none the less)Hillary has done so much damage to our Nation and will have the opportunity to deal a devastating blow to our individual rights as President should we allow that. Good God folks wake up. See through the media frenzy,the facts shout louder than words here. Billions are being dealt out to keep the World order going. READ into it. Do your research. Look beyond paid for media. Help stop the corrupt politics that plagues this very Nation. One chance folks.
No integrity or authenticity – lost at end of life only seeking power and influence. The very definition of two faced… Trump’s private beliefs and public pronouncements are as disconnected as Hillary’s are… Can we get rid of both by a massive write in campaign ?
Both sides in this election have done an outstanding job of demonstrating that the other side is unfit to govern. This would not have been possible if they hadn’t spent the past 30 years ensuring that no third party candidate could ever be viable.
I believe this is a positive development. By reducing expectations, whoever is ultimately elected will be considered a success if they can avoid starting World War III. They may not clear this low bar, but at least they have a shot at it.
Can’t wait to hear how Elizabeth Warren justifies this.
As well as Bernie Sanders.
Mr. Trump has told the truth in a vulgar way – some women do not deserve respect – they sell themselves to rich men for profit, hoping for and planning for a big payout. Those women allow RICH men to have their way in any way that permits a payout of big cash – Hillary Clinton is one of those women. Hillary Clinton sells herself to rich men, and ONLY rich men, for pay-for-play big money – Clinton sold herself to Wall Street and made millions. Hillary Clinton sold herself to George Soros for $10 million and will do what he says. Clinton sold herself to the Saudi government for 25 million. Hillary Clinton sold herself to the Clinton Family Foundation, which is separate from the Clinton Foundation. The Clintons’ charitable contributions that they deduct are made to the Family Foundation that they control:?The significantly smaller Clinton Family Foundation is a traditional private foundation that serves as the vehicle for their personal charitable giving. … Headquartered in Chappaqua, New York, it received nearly all of the approximately $14 million the Clintons gave to charity from 2007–13. Hillary Clinton takes care of Hillary Clinton and no one else. Because Hillary Clinton sells herself to rich men for profit, she is ROTTED TO THE CORE, so rotted that Hillary Clinton allowed four poor American men to be slaughtered in Benghazi to cover up her arms dealing with terrorists. Those men were not rich enough for Hillary to sell herself to them. Hillary Clinton is an expensive call girl, allowing only RICH men to have access to her private area, and she is a foul-mouthed call girl at that – ‘F**k off! It’s enough that I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.’ “If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing ass over here and grab those bags!”(From the book The First Partner p. 259 – Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident. “Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can’t f**k her here!!”(From the book Inside The White House by Ronald Kessler , p. 243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally. Hillary Clinton as SOS sold herself to RICH men buying illegal arms and turned the world into a fire pit, unleashing enemies such as Putin and the Islamic barbarians – destroyed the lives of millions of people through her arrogant pathetic decisions and Hillary Clinton doesn’t give a damn because those men were not RICH enough to pay. ?Mr. Trump said a vulgar thing, but it describes Hillary Clinton perfectly. After all, Mr. Trump has never sold out the USA for pay-for-play. Mr. Trump has not broken the laws of the USA, putting our security and our agents in danger. Mr. Trump did not allow four poor American men to be slaughtered to cover up illegal arms dealing. Mr. Trump did not set up a private server in order to hide corruption, Mr. Trump did not lie to Congress and the FBI. Mr. Trump did not LIE to the families of the Benghazi victims and to the American People. Mr. Trump does not sell himself to rich men for profit – ONLY HILLARY CLINTON DOES THESE HORRENDOUS IMMORAL UNETHICAL TREASONOUS THINGS. Hillary Clinton is a woman who does not deserve respect because she sells herself and our country to RICH men for profit and as an immoral woman who sells herself to RICH MEN and ONLY RICH MEN, Hillary Clinton is UNFIT to be trash collector.?TRUMP/PENCE 2016
Please take the word “finally” off the main title.
You’re not living under the same danger, the person facilitating the leaks, is living under.
Right on, pretty clear someone(?) made a grab for his balls to stop this information from seeing the light of day before the election.
Someone did comment on this, but because it’s only one comment in 436 it probably bears repeating: this passage –
“…Clinton responded to a question from chief executive Lloyd Blankfein, who quipped that you “go to Washington” to “make a small fortune.” Clinton agreed with the comment…”
is a blatant mischaracterisation of the exchange, as anyone can verify by checking the email. In fact nobody in that exchange says “make a small fortune”; Clinton and Blankfein are both saying “you come to Washington with a fortune, you leave with a small fortune”, i.e. the *exact* *opposite* of what that quote implies.
Do read this comment. It’s by an account calling itself “Jimmy.” THAT is the caliber of troll the Revise the Record Hillary PAC has bought to peddle pro-Hillary talking points online. That’s as good as it gets. That’s as good as they can get.
(Dollars to donuts, the PAC sent out an email telling Jimmy et al. to use the phrase “Make America Grope Again.”)
saw that. Hellary has an aversion to sex – which is why Bill sought outside help. She betrayed the relationship and is now exercising a sadistic compromise to please everyone and screw everyone at the same time and let the rationalisations lie where they may.
Ha. I had only read the beginning. It actually got better/worse.
I think she really said these things, do you think on any planet if these were all fake she wouldn’t be shouting off the roof tops to everyone that they were fake (and playing the victim like she always does). Of course she’d say they were flat out fake if they actually were–what would she have to lose if they were fake and then she just told everyone that they were too….???
And just FYI it’s crap like this (and many many more troubling things always coming out about HRC, etc.) that make people not want to vote for her. This is just beyond sad, and bring back Bernie peeppps….u know he’s looking super amazing right now…Oh Bernie u should’ve won man.
This is almost identical to the argument made by Mr. Greenwald against the surveillance state. He states that people need privacy in order to work out their ideas. Only after a process of working things through privately, can they present new ideas to be tested under the glare of public scrutiny. A society where people are not afforded privacy becomes a society unable to generate new ideas. Citizens in a surveillance state can only embrace preexisting ideas which have been publicly approved.
The difference between a public and a private position represents a form of power. Imagine a poker game where everyone knows the cards you are holding. You lose the power to bluff your way out of a bad hand. Or in Mrs. Clinton’s case, she would lose the power to charge $250,000 for a speech. Goldman Sachs is not going to fork out that kind of money just to hear her publicly announced positions. They could just get a copy of one her of campaign speeches.
Mrs. Clinton appears to understand the value of privacy, at least for herself. Goldman Sachs is not known for throwing away money, so they must have felt that insight was worth $250,000. So if knowing that privacy is valuable is worth $250,000, what is the value of privacy itself? The people who give their privacy away because they have ‘nothing to hide’ may be short changing themselves.
and then there is the “LIE CON” where you tell one group one thing and the other group the opposite knowing full well that all of your intended victims will foolishly believe that (is Hellary) is lying to the other group.
Wallstreet confidently and foolishly believes Hellary is lying to the public she is supposed to work for, the people, the general public, the common person. The fans of Hellary foolishly and confidently believe she is telling them the truth and in blind faith prefer to believe that she never said contrary things to wallstreet and if she did, she didn’t mean it, or she meant something else.
Being a qualified certifiable victim of political lying and media propaganda in the US is growing more difficult for most as they are now engaged in word fights who meant what- rather than throwing food which would be healthier because medical studies will show that such constant bombardment of demands to decide on the facts is raising the blood pressure of Americans which will add billions to health care costs and reduce lifespans.
ISIS does not have that problem.
“’So, you need both a public and a private position.’ This is almost identical to the argument made by Mr. Greenwald against the surveillance state…” Clinton’s duplicity is not justifiable on the same grounds as those supporting freedom from unreasonable government surveillance.
You conflate privacy with deceit … more specifically, you conflate the privacy of citizens (as against the government) with deceit by an electoral candidate (as against the voters).
“Only after a process of working things through privately, can they present new ideas to be tested under the glare of public scrutiny.” It’s good to think before talking. But when electoral candidates talk to voters, the things they say should match what they actually believe. There is no voter surveillance of a candidate’s thinking.
“Imagine a poker game…” We agree secrecy helps against adversaries, like an opposing poker player or army. Can you distinguish that from Clinton misleading the public about what policies she intends to support if elected? I don’t want Clinton to bluff or trick me.
“Or in Mrs. Clinton’s case, she would lose the power to charge $250,000 for a speech.” This statement does not follow logically or thematically from anything that precedes it.
Now you’re saying Clinton lies to the public to inflate her speaking fees at private events…which is also wrong because these firms buy access and influence not boring ass speeches from a boring ass speaker.
True. But that’s not all that is going on.
On one level, it’s marketing for Goldman Sachs. They invite their clients and highest performing employees to listen to the speech. Having the future president as a guest speaker delivers the message that Goldman Sachs is a powerful player with access to the highest level of politics. Mrs. Clinton emphasizes that message by praising the astuteness of Goldman Sachs management, and declaring she would trust them to oversee regulation of the financial sector under her administration. When she presents policy positions that differ from her public ones, that also reinforces the message that Goldman Sachs is important and receives more than the typical political line designed to bamboozle the voters. So having a ‘private’ policy position which she only shares with select groups does enhance the value of her speeches.
On the other hand, Mrs. Clinton’s primary goal in addressing Goldman Sachs is to audition for the job of president. The room contains people who will not only contribute to her campaign, but who have contacts which will be useful to her political career. Powerful people use each other to their mutual benefit. The money is merely a fringe benefit.
But in any case, regardless of how you characterize the relationship, Mrs. Clinton benefits by not making her entire platform public. This gives her bargaining chips – with Goldman Sachs, with Congress, with foreign leaders. Privacy is a form of power and when you lose it, you lose your negotiating leverage. That is true whether you are Mrs. Clinton or Joe the Plumber.
“A society where people are not afforded privacy becomes a society unable to generate new ideas.
Citizens in a surveillance state can only embrace preexisting ideas which have been publicly approved.”
Thank you!
They know, they are creating a sterile population; much easier to manage, and much easier to sell crap and poisons to.
as prepostrous as it sounds, i actually belev that is true.
they want to advertise candydates into position, appoint whoever, make illegal whatever, guarantee profits, create wars at will, and condition Americans to give their lives to their will and rob the population as they please which allows the f…b…i… to have an easier time as simple security detail for them.
PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Sachs of Gold really doesn’t care what she says, publicly or privately. paying her an amount that to 99% of US citizens is a small fortune, to speak for a few minutes, demonstrates that they control her, and have her on a string, for the cost of a tiny crumb that fell from their gold table. $250,000 for banksters is infinitesimal but, importantly, also a string attached to hillary and bill by which they can parade them in front of the bankster community and make them dance on command. just pull the string to make her dance, make her smile, pass legislation written by the financial community because, you know, there is just too much regulation and banksters demand “fiscal certainty” for their kleptocracy. you betcha!
I don’t think it was Mrs. Clinton’s “insight” Goldman Sachs was paying for. *I’m confident Goldman Sachs was paying for something a bit more tangible … and Goldman Sachs is not known for throwing away money.
And stop trying to change the subject: the important thing is Trump’s pussy grabbing
*I don’t know a lot of things benitoe, but the things I know I know well. Due to my intimate knowledge of the female anatomy, I can tell you Trump’s outlandish braggadocio ‘pussy grabbing’ is complete and utter nonsense. It’s just not possible to ‘grab’ a pussy … but I’m confident the Sun. morning netwreck news shows are going to try. bye.
That’s just anecdotal. Please cite relevant research published in a peer reviewed journal.
Especially a shaved one.
Make America grope again.
They hate US,all those for the hell bitch.
” It’s just not possible to ‘grab’ a pussy ”
check out Hustler Magazine, August, 1979.
Additional ‘peer reviewed’ material available through Penthouse Forum.
That “Reset Button” better eject Madame Kissinger Associate New Mandarin Senator from Wall Street too! We don’t need no more HOUSE OF CLINTON!
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Alternet (discus?) is now actively banning Jill Stein supporters and members critically of Clinton.
yea, they didn’t like us pissing in their cheerios on the “5 things about jill stein” article they tried to pass off onto us.
they’ve still not addressed the podesta publication at all.
How do you know these are genuine documents? Who verified them?
Please let us know when someone questions their authenticity. Besides you, that is.
“Please let us know when someone questions their authenticity. ”
Hillary spokesbitch Donna something just announced on ABC that no one should even open the emails because they have a “postmark from Russia”
She flat-out denied they are legitimate.
Wikileaks verified them. Wikileaks has never published materials that were found to be other than genuine.
And the Clinton campaign has not even hinted that they are not genuine, because they know that Wikileaks has the metadata to establish that they are the real thing.
That’s how we know.
I still have my Wikileaks t-shirt from one of the donations I stupidly gave this pathetic, Fox News wannabe… Any ideas what I should do with it?
Burn it while wearing it?
Be careful, of course.
That sounds very dangerous, Doug. Jimmy doesn’t think that’s good advice.
I did tell you to be careful.
jimmy – jimmy – jimmy
having a serious issue what to do with a t-shirt you foolishly bought that you never wanted and you’re asking for real help???
hint – when your decision making process gets that bad, time to check into a clinic.
have a nice vacation.
And let us all give many thanks that Wikileaks failed so miserably at emulating FOXNews. The world doesn’t really need the existing fountain of disinformation, let alone a clone. FOXNews only exists to make extremist Conservatives feel comfortable with letting their hateful, bigoted Nazi flags fly. In a manner of speaking. Oh, and to provide something for Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly to do which pays them for their non-stop, petulant whining about scary change, plus cover the costs of a nurse to wipe their bottoms and change their diapers.
This is also what FOXNews provides its’ viewers – a “safe space” where they can cuddle together and mutually reassure one another they really ARE smarter than a sack of hammers, despite what science and years of therapy tell them.
To borrow a word from a well-known orange rapist pseudo-politician: “Pussies!”
I know what you can do with it – but as this is an open forum, I will restrain myself from explicitly pointing it out. I trust you get the message, however.
As to your comment, I think a round of hurrahs are in order. After all, we should loudly celebrate and give thanks for the fact that Wikileaks failed so miserably at emulating FoxNews. The world has little use for the existing network, let alone a clone. It exists only to create a “safe space” where frightened extremist conservatives might huddle together, to feel safe from the liberal bogeymen which torment their minds, and to draw comfort in their mutual reassurances that despite what science, common sense, and years of intensive therapy tell them, they really ARE smarter than a sack of hammers. They are of course wrong, but then they are about everything, aren’t they?
To borrow a word from a notable, recently-appointed spokesperson for both the GOP and the American Orange Growers’ Association: What a bunch of “pussies!”
(No insults intended, ladies – in truth, most of them simply aspire to pussydom, but never reach it. Only a precious few ever actually reach that coveted pinnacle. Mostly they seem to get stuck on the morality/bravery scale somewhere between opossums and coliform bacteria. They likely COULD do better, but somewhat counter-productively have rejected the concepts of “hope”, “change” and “progress” for some reason.)
“I still have my Wikileaks t-shirt from one of the donations … Any ideas what I should do with it?”
Use it to wipe your hard drive.
They’re not going to deny them because if you read through them thoroughly and don’t cherry pick, you’ll like Hill even more. She and her team are more than impressive. If she’s elected, look for huge changes in this country, single payer, such as medicare for all, and solar panels on every sunny roof in the country… I said in 1999, if Bush steals the election 1 million will die. I say if Hill takes over, millions and millions of lives will be saved worldwide. Check out the work the foundation does, and then multiply that my the presidency…
The Kool-aid is strong in this one.
he wants to pass the elected Kool-aid placid test
Very good, Vic.
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you are the other end of a horse’s head and i will prove it right now.
1. hellary will inaugurate the TPP and all your aforementioned improvements will be subsidised by high prices making them unaffordable except for a few and those foolish enuf to mortgage their homes to the thieving criminal wallstreet money printers for loans for profits.
2. Hellary is a confirmed 2-timing backstabbing truthdenying doubletalking hairsplitting hedgefund licking wallstreet moll who will negotiate said inprovements mostly too far out to make a significant difference but is criminal enuf to insist that is progress.
3. wallstreet will not put dime one into US infrastructure because it cannot be monetised and you – HERE IS THAT PROOF – NEVER MENTIONED INFRASTRUCTURE because you already know it’s not in the works.
DONALD TRUMP WILL REBUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
I want to collect my reward now and call you a horse’s ass. But if you are not willing to admit that i am correct in my assessment, that makes you something worse.
“DONALD TRUMP WILL REBUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE”, and cut corporate tax rates Apple Computer at the same time.
Good thing Mexico wants to chip in.
Jimmy, your comments indicate delerium, but I respond as if you were suffering a rare bout lucididity and offer only a few remarks about the real world.
HRC, Inc. is fully owned those who have already taken over. Saving lives was never on their agenda. Destroying lives and entire countries for personal profit and entertainment is.
HRC, The Party, and majority shareholders do not intend to prohibit routine extra judicial street executions of people possessing excessive levels of skin pigmentation. I do understand (from being born in Jim Crow Texas and taking twenty seven years to ditch it) black people are not human beings to the self described “so far removed” set, but they are indeed, in the real world, humans that matter — much more than your kind.
Regarding another agenda item affecting me personally: HRC, The Party, and majority shareholders do not intend to prohibit routine extra judicial torture and prosecute patriotic perps. In my case, zersetzung torture became more extreme after Uncle Tom’s inauguration, so it is reasonable to assume the company will double down on the criminal habits you and millions of other demented americans have repeatedly endorsed.
I will refrain from expressing what I realy think of your kind and wish all of you the best of luck with the new wars, but you should have learned by now that it would be prudent to finish the ones you’ve already started first.
I understand none of this — like the real world — makes any sense to you.
No you didn’t. You are a Revise the Record troll and only posting in comments sections about anything because you are paid to do so.
Hillary supports Simpson-Bowles, which would attack Social Security. she’s not even sort of a progressive. She’s Republican Lite — good on a few social issues, especially feminism for (mostly) white professional women. She’s worse than many Republicans on warmongering.
She’s still the Goldwater Girl she was in 1964.
How many lives did you predict W’s AIDs initiative in Africa would save?
the entire context exactly matches the criminal behavior and excuses offered by the criminals of wallstreet to the American people which makes these findings quite believeable. Perhaps you havent heard the death threats coming from the Hellary campaign – to the grandchildren of Loretta Lynch? to Julian Assange? Given Hellary’s history for support for genocide of Palestinians, murder of protesters in the Honduras, and untold murders of people surround their political career, her LAPDANCE FOR WALLSTRET THIEVES and her role as their combo MOLL & GETAWAY DRIVER makes those findings quite expected, fitting and toned down compared to her ususual criminal style of relationships.
so you are stuck on RUSSIA DID IT because all your tribal comradicals are jumping up and down like feet on hot coals while swearing they see water where there isnt any?
With all the attention Trump is getting today from his past reprehensible comments involving women any negative news item regarding Clinton is not going to receive the attention it’s due. It’s very disappointing how this presidential election has devolved into arguing personality issues as opposed to examining the policy stances each candidate holds. Lowest common denominator writ large.
Hillary Clinton, the corrupt corporatist warmonger, is endorsed by Obama, a corrupt corporatist warmonger. They both have a public face and a private face, and both are morally demented bastards.
OT: For those disgusted by the US and UK supported assaults on Yemen:
Obama Could End The Slaughter In Yemen Within Hours
And yet the media will reserve its front page headlines for vile talk about pussy grabbing, which reveals both Trump’s and the mainstream’s skewed reality-tunnels.
Me: “Children burning to death!”
Mainstream: “Yeah, but pussy! He said grab them by the pussy!”
Me: “Clinton supports Saudi Arabian war criminals, and is a war criminal, like Obama, herself!”
Mainstream: “Yeah, but pussy! He said grab them by the pussy!”
Me: “The new WikiLeaks release prove Clinton is a sold-out corporatist who will lie and deceive to get her way, which aligns with the very worst of the neocon elite.”
“Yeah, but pussy! He said grab them by the pussy!”
“Yes, terrible, now Clinton…”
“No! Shut up! He said pussy!”
;^)
I mean ;^(
I think?
How do you know these are genuine documents? The Guccifer2 dump on Tuesday were duplicates of previously hacked DNC, DCCC documents, a file on Republican campaign donors and other bogus docs. Anyone could be dumping fake documents so why should we pay attention if the source cannot be verified?
I’m not aware of anyone questioning their authenticity.
No one is questioning the authenticity of these documents. If you still support Clinton, that’s your choice. Just be sure that you’re voting for the REAL Hillary and not the campaign-ready version that was sold at the convention. That means more free trade, more bankers running our financial institutions, more war, fewer middle-class jobs, more school “reform” and more talk of Social Security “reform.”
sufferin’ succotash! he thed puthy!
i get the who is what thing in politics – but the absolute preposterous comparisons that the – scuseme – dumbocrats are making by equating MURDER with manjest pussytalk (very common) is … something i dont have the words for, perhaps revolting, robots who self-pull and throw up ISIS style trances as if to prepare burning witches or lynching people.
PBS – ranting and raving about the mantalk as if Hellary’s support for genocide and murder and coups is a whole lot better for kids. really?
pussy pussy pussy pussy all day long, wont kill me or anyone else.
meanwhile Hellary and Huma seem like pussy lovers.
All these clowns are doing is re-enforcing the narrative of zionist and bankster control of our nation and it will backfire on Nov 8.
Looks like it’s game over for you poor folks. The transcripts, as it turned out, were withheld, not because of their content, but because people would distort their content, but the media is going to be a bit more careful about that, though of course not NPR and other elite outlets. Hill tells the truth as always, in the transcripts the smoking gun is that she says yes indeed, I’ve led a fortunate life, married to a President, but I will never forget my roots. This is the kind of open, honest stuff that is emblematic of Hill and who she it, it’s what right winger Comey found in the recovered deleted emails and it’s what made him realize that no prosecutor in the country would try to prosecute this woman, it’s why so many hard working real progressives, particularly minorities, who get to know her support her. Sorry, folks, and all of you hoping and praying for an I told you so Trump victory. Assange, Roger Stone, Sean Hannity and the man with tiny hands just had a premature ejaculation, I know, yuk. At some point, Assange is going to have to face the music of the women whose rights he violated. No wonder he’s terrified of a woman being the most powerful person in the world. It ain’t good if you’re a molester, it just can’t be. Ask the Make America Grope Again campaign tonight.
Of course, Jimmy. The little people and the press can’t be trusted with the private positions — they might come to the wrong conclusions. That’s why $hillary has a team working around the clock to prepare the public positions, so the herd can remain placid.
Guess what, every single person, including you Doug, have a private and public persona. It’s part of human nature. To assume otherwise is not only highly naive but as the great Agent Orange says so eloquently… saaaadddd….. Even the Great White Messiah of the trust fund capitol of the East refused to release his taxes… Can you imagine what his emails would have looked like? Indeed, it’s called politics. Wake up, Doug, get out there and work for Hill, she needs passionate people like yourself.
If Killary actually needed “people like me,” she’d still be in Little Rock, hustling the yokels and getting sweet deals on cattle futures. Sadly, she doesn’t need us.
Bernie’s public and private faces are the same. That’s called character and being genuine. Both which are missing attributes in Hillary.
I have to hand it to you, you are really smarmy. No one posting here thinks that you can pull Donald Trump out as some kind of standard. Oh look she’s better than Donald Trump. What an accomplishment. Tell us more. Wait, don’t.
As the great Agent Orange said, “some day you’re gonna wake up from this stupid fantasy.”
jimmy, so clever.
you should be a writer of comedy or major motion pictures.
at least you could do a cheap reality tv show starring you and your real self.
meanwhile the CG crime syndicate is going to lose everywhere and the thieves of wallstreet are going to be at a loss who to rob to feed the wealth beast.
Wanna be a hero, jimmy? sure you do. Tell your wally buddies that they can finance and privitise their own wars, all over the world, death and destruction and if they call you crazy, that’s where you shine! Tell them they’re already doing it in a round-about way and it’s a serious money maker printing that paper for loan dollars to hand out to the rebuild crew – dig up cheney – he’ll help you.
and be sure to remind them they’ll make 23% interest on the paper, zillions more in fraudulent ownership valuations and…. with that sort of control, they can do it all over again.
jimmy! this is your time! crank it up!
Your little myopic rant just converted me to trump voter. Not because I have any respect or political common ground with that meat-sack/gas bag , but because you’ve really driven it home for me how not vile Hill and her followers are. There’s no shortage of evidence for that, but you somehow distilled the class character of the Clinton follower. The essence and its putrid. Trump is grotesque but I cant allow a chance to vote again Hill to go unused.
Maybe somebody can help me here…
I seem to recall that at some point a Hillary staffer claimed that her huge speaking fees were justified due to the unique insights her vast experience gave her.
Anybody know who said it and when?
Can anybody find anything in her speeches that meets that description?
I’ve gotten more unique insight from fortune cookies.
And, btw Hillary, we don’t, y’know, know, y’know, what, y’know, you, y’know, mean.
msnbc, i recall hearing it, not sure which but mj, hardball, rachel or joy
pretty sure 1 of those 4
karen finney or mcCaskill.
i chuckled about the “experienced” mention
used to like msnbc with keith, ed, joy, reval, dylan, the cycle…
then they screwed it all up
no mention of hellary’s weapons dealing, the emails, f…b…i… lying, nothing. it’s like the worship her. But i happen to know, it’s wallstreet.
bldg 7. out of sight out of mind. they always take down the original source. that’s the pattern. All those people turning up dead, co-incidence doesnt begin to explain it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nr9_MhO2Ek
(completely censored)
assange,
where is a single leak u’ve posted of the high-tech abuses and murders of the millions per year inside the u.s. by r1b intel? where is a single one?
does the cia lift the blindfold to spoonfeed you?
i dont believe in the act of collecting their evidence, where does that leave someone like me?
they’re retarded assange, post the truth.
we shouldnt even acknowledge any of r1b intels “tonya harding-red carpet candidates”
Honestly, the fact CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC have failed to cover Hillary’s wikileaks’ story has less to do with an 11 year old tape recording of Trump making an ass of himself and all to do with getting Hillary elected above all else. Journalism died a few years back. Its now all about partisan bickering. Interesting enough, these same left-leaning media outlets will be the one’s suffering the most after 4 years of Hillary. There’s no way around it, the Clintons are among the most corrupt politicians in the country today. They will make the Obama administration almost look less corrupt. The Obama administration has been corrupt regarding everything but self-enrichment. The Clintons will make self-enrichment their primary concern while still upping the ante on every other type of corruption in office.
“Left-leaning media outlets”?? The ones you list in your first sentence are anything but. They are all establishment propaganda media outlets. The true left knows Hillary Clinton for the warmonger and international death-dealer she really is. The Clintons have made self-enrichment their primary concern since they lived in Arkansas. Nothing new there. But please. Don’t call the mainstream media “left-leaning”.
Obviously the Clinton transcripts are evidence of Clinton’s rank hypocrisy and sold-out corporatism, but there has been an attempt to degrade the WikiLeaks material by associating it with a supposed talk by Clinton referring to progressives as a “bucket of losers” – it seems even some on this site have fallen for this false inclusion.
Wikileaks Tweet.
Trump’s rather predictable and deeply offensive macho posturing should not detract from Clinton’s appalling corruption – this should be self-evident, but doesn’t appear so to the establishment media.
Buzzfeed article claims that quote is entirely manufactured.
That “Bucket Of Losers” Clinton Speech Transcript Is Totally Fake
(The real transcripts have enough damning in them to dissuade any honest listener from trusting Clinton.)
Well, the two statements/arguments are different, of course. Wikileaks apparently disavows only the “bucket of losers” label, while Buzzfeed makes a much broader claim.
I trust Wikileaks, but notwithstanding their advice, I don’t trust “only Wikileaks.” ;^)
Buzzfeed is just an Internet tabloid with no particular claim to be an authoritative source.
So, we should probably accept that “bucket of losers” came from somewhere other than Wikileaks, but going beyond that would require more research. It isn’t a crucial point because, as either Maisie or Buzzfeed says (can’t tell which), there’s more than enough damning content in the authenticated speeches without it.
BTW, I did a quick read of the Buzzfeed piece. It doesn’t seem to offer any real evidence that the transcript is false. It just says that it appeared on a questionable site five days before the Wikileaks publication. That may be suggestive, but it isn’t proof.
If this seems important to you, please keep us posted, Maisie.
“The real transcripts have enough damning in them to dissuade any honest listener from trusting Clinton.” Yeah, that’s me, not Buzzfeed! I linked to that article as it confirms the WikiLeaks statement that they didn’t release that particular transcript. It sure sounds like something Clinton would say, but there is either a ploy to legitimize this possibly-fake transcript under the WikiLeaks umbrella, or a long-term ploy to discredit the WikiLeaks release itself. I mention it only so people can separate them in discussions, as that only seems sensible. The Buzzfeed recounting of the meme’s dubious prior appearance seems legit, even though it is, well, Buzzfeed.
I used to dismiss suggestions like this as highly improbable. These days, I find them perfectly plausible.
Am I becoming overly-credulous with age, or. . . have I just seen too many outlandish propositions proven true?
Some conspiracies are not just theories. There really is an establishment so corrupted that it controls both sides of the political aisle while faking a theatrical display of conflict between the two. And it systematically sows doubt about all information which actually reveals corruption in the system itself.
Yes, indeed. You have clear vision. And there’s lots of time for you to see the necessity of adopting green socialism if we are to have even a small chance of sustaining civilization.
My beliefs about the economy align with Jill Stein’s, which is as socialist as I want to go. She isn’t really regarded as ‘anti-capitalist’ by out-and-out socialists, however, and if you are one of the latter I didn’t mean to appear dismissive – I am strongly opposed to corporatism, militarism and imperialism, and we can agree on that.
Maisie, I have more than sufficient respect for you (cuz you’ve earned it) to not worry about disagreements of degree.
When I talk about green socialism as essential to the (possible) survival of civilization, I mean that literally and urgently.
While I’ve always dabbled in political matters and been a history and current event junkie, I’ve also spent much of the past two decades in serious study of ecology in general, population ecology (“autecology”), energy and resource constraints and the limits to growth.
Capitalism, as well as any other economic or social-philosophical system that promotes and depends upon endless growth, is entirely incompatible with the physical reality of the world we live in and our moment in time.
And this is not a reality that will only affect some distant future; the party ins nearing its end, right now. One of the results is the flareup of poorly-disguised resource wars that have already begun and are certain to proliferate and to get much more devastating.
It’s not a matter of political preference or even of essential fairness and decency (although those factors might be sufficient, for me, by themselves). It’s a matter of the immutable and inescapable laws of physics.
The choice is between radical, fundamental restructuring and the collapse of human civilization. Apocalypse followed by Mad Max (if the apocalypse is incomplete).
Long, long reading lists available. Starting places:
Limits to Growth: The 30-Year Update
Continued.
A Prosperous Way Down
Collision Course: Endless Growth on a Finite Planet
And, as I frequently post (although it is invariably ignored):
I = P * A * T
The environmental impact of humans on the biosphere (I) may be expressed in terms of resource depletion and waste accumulation.
P refers to the size of the human population.
A, affluence, refers to the level of consumption by the human population.
T, technology refers to the processes used to obtain resources and transform them into useful goods and wastes.
The more people, the more consumption, the higher the level of technology, the greater the impact.
See Ehrlich, Holdren and Commoner. Wiki has a decent entry.
Perhaps there’s very little disagreement at all – we both seem to be on the same page regarding a sustainable future.
Politically speaking, in supporting Jill Stein I’m selecting the most sensible transitional approach (of which I’m aware) toward achieving that future ASAP; however, I’m open to constructive suggestions on how her economic model could be improved – as I’m sure she is. Is her platform insufficiently worker-centric? It would help our discussion if there were specific shared goals to discuss, but in general terms I reckon you’d probably find me amenable to most great ‘green socialist’ ideas which you approve .
It is indeed literally imperative now that drastic, monumental change in widespread cultural aspiration and economics occur. All peaceful steps in this direction interest me. Thanks for the book recs.
Jill gets my vote, too, and not because she’s the least of multiple evils; she’s not evil at all.
She is, indeed, the best choice we can make at this time.
I think the two most essential elements of the change that is required are population control and reduction of consumption (mostly by rich populations). Those things are going to happen, one way or another and it would be “nice” if they were undertaken voluntarily rather than imposed by ecological catastrophe or escalation of the resource wars.
I’m not really very hopeful, and I know you don’t feel comfortable with what must seem like my pessimism but feels to me like realism. I was much more hopeful when I was your age (whatever that is). I’m 65, this year, and I’ve been watching humans ignore and deny this reality since, say, the first Earth Day, in 1970, when we already knew all we needed to know to see where we were headed and what needed to be done to correct the course.
Write In
Sure, if you have a preferred candidate who doesn’t appear on the ballot, write the name in nice, clear letters.
You could pick a name from the phone book at random and very likely get a better and more-qualified candidate than the Deplorable Duo. Well, if we still had phone books, you could.
One would think there was no leak on Friday, funny how that works huh???
To all the Lesser Of 2 Evils voters on this thread.
Lesser Of Evils voting is for Dummies. And it is collectively those Dummies that keep the US mired in corrupt politicians. Smarten up Merica, vote Green Party. At least they are freaking Honest. Elect an honest president for a refreshing change.
Wow.
Are you guys insane for supporting Trump? He is literally crazy. Are you sure he doesn’t have dementia? This guy has to be the most self delusional piece of garbage I have ever seen, and you want to stand behind that? He was ok with his daughter being called a “Piece of ass” WTF is wrong with you people? You think someone who is ok with this remark about his daughter is a good person to represent you in the world? Are you high?
Hillary wins it will be a coronation of the ultra insider with the system in her pocket. She knows who she is and the class she serves and will be all about it, quickly casting off any promises to average Americans. Trump has few concrete ties to powerful supporters to grant him immunity. Hillary will own US. Trump can only rent US until or if he screw enough, a good bet, to get impeached. There will be NO eviction option for Hillary and her classmates.
Jacque Wurzelbacher ~ but let’s get real: male power and female sexual abuse and assault have a significant link and an evolutionary history. What’s offending in Trump’s case? Overt sexual objectification of women from a 60 year old man with daughters and granddaughters? I knew a 60 year old man who sexually abused his own granddaughters and remained an icon in his family and community. Trump’s vulgar language? American movies are full of it. His bragging about it? What about Hugh Heffner who’s admired for it? His admitted infidelity as a recently married husband? I see that Melania and Hillary have unfaithful spouses in common with tens of thousands of other American spouses. What’s damning is that significant parts of American culture continue to value and act out misogyny. We have a long way to go to eliminate values and actions like Trump’s. The G.O.P. elites knew he was like this. Why did they let it go so far? What a bunch of misogynistic worms. A considerable number of DEM elites knew too. I guess even a significant number of citizens who read the grocery store tabloids over the last decade or so also knew. Now what? Will this presidential misogynist be continued on by the established 2-parties? His apologies sound like what abusive husbands say to their victim-wives. Will American voters play along as victims too?
Off-topic, but worth it:
If you appreciate fine long-form journalism and spare, eloquent prose, do not miss Jamie Kalven’s four-parter on corruption in the Chicago Police Department.
The work is simply as good as it gets.
“corruption in the Chicago Police Department.”
Gosh, I hope this doesn’t tarnish the image of the Mayor of Chicago.
Go read a good Capone biography and tell me what has changed.
Try not to be such an asshole. I know it’s hard.
Doug doesn’t get it.Emanuel is a chosen and is untouchable.(other than by the people)
Doug has too many notions.
I feel sorry for the Russians who put so much efforts to get these e-mails and then find out it was useless thanks to Trump’s videos.
Got evidence?
Sorry to hear that you have been conned.
Also sorry to hear that you are so vulnerable to believing lies.
Also sorry to hear that you havent learned to innoculate yourself against the con which is …. conviction by allegations and assumptions.
Also sorry to hear that your lack of a sense of humbleness and humiltiy doesnt give you the courage to laff at the fools pushing the “russia did it” without offering one single shred of solid evident.
But if someone tells you i slept with your wife last night, please do not jump to conclusions because i actually do have a solid alibi.
have a nice day, anyway.
Anyone mention how the MSM loved the small hands small penis crap about Trump awhile ago?
And that the HB also has a potty mouth,much like our honorable venerated moderator?
Overheard at WH water cooler;Bitem and Bent Dick as a comely,buxom woman walks by;Whats the square root of 144,Joe.Twelve,Bill.
I believe it.I believe it.
Do these clowns realize the ramifications of all their machinations?
The fix is in,and so many alleged nice and smart people just nod their heads and go along with it.
This woman is the most corrupt banal dogpoopie that has ever run for our POTUS,hands down.
And if Jill Stein won this election,you wouldn’t see me very unhappy,as she is light years better than this atrocity.
But only Trump will have the mojo to rescue US from the obvious hive against US and our democracy,Zion.
Mondoweiss had a story of Israel interference in her platform,BTW.
i hear ya
If 2 new books sold this weekend on amazon – for free: ‘Hillary’s Doubles’ and ‘Trump’s de Jour’ – who’d win readership?
Ugh, she’s terrible, yay, I get to vote for her. This lesser of evils stuff has really bottomed out.
I am sorry if I disagree with anyone.
It does not matter if, it is Putin or the Intercept is putting out the emails.
The proof is in the pudding. The pudding is the content of the emails.
Why get angry with the messenger? The problem is the message. Mrs. Clinton should publicaly take responsibility for what she did.
Excerpts of the speeches given in the years before her presidential campaign included some blunt and unguarded remarks to her private audiences, which collectively had paid her at least $26.1m in speaking fees.
Mrs. Clinton speeches to bank executives show not only discrepancies between her private and public positions, but are trying trick others by persuading them to believe something that is not true.
It seems fairly obvious why Clinton would not want them to see the light of day in the primary—when she was trying to prove her progressive bona fides. She was fighting the perception that she had been soft on banks. In the excerpts, Clinton presents herself as a finance-friendly moderate who is willing to criticize the industry.
She also suggests politicians need to hide their true policy positions from the public. While this may be true of many politicians, it is a breath taking hypocrisy to tell this to a group of bankers and then hide it from all of us.
What about the people’s right? So it is okay, to trick the people and give false information to win race for the presidency?
In any game, like the Olympic Games, athletes who participate and who cheat will be disqualified, period.
When there is something filthy you say so. But if you just cover it up, you become filthy.
If there is a little bit of filth, you smell it but might ignore it. But when there is a lot of filth, the stench is too much to hide.
Yes, you’re absolutely right – she’s terrible. The problem being, Trump is truly worse and wants to intern Muslim Americans, says loathesome things about women and minorities, lies even more than Hillary, changes positions on a dime, and has an economic plan that completely belies his populist appeal and further enriches the 1%. So we’re screwed either way, but I think I’ll take the competent loathsome one that will appoint some decent SCOTUS justices and work hard to get her not to run in 2020, so we can get some much needed New Deal / progressive reforms and bring back the middle class and economic opportunity for Main Street.
Reason #522 why I will not vote for Hillary Clinton–she claims she is for a Constitutional Amendment to alter the Citizens United result, but in this statement to GE claims “I have no idea how you do that.” And blames it on the Supreme Court, while appearing to accept that “this is just what we are in for”.
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/07/excerpts-of-hillary-clintons-paid-speeches-to-goldman-sachs-finally-leaked/?comments=1#comments
Reason #523 I will never vote for Hillary Clinton:
Gawd she’s either incredibly stupid or incredibly venal. The reason we ask that our public servants divest themselves (to the degree it is required for certain political offices) of their investments into “blind trusts” is to avoid conflicts of interest (or the appearance of one) NOT because anybody is jealous or “biased” against the success of others.
Reason #524 I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton:
She lacks so little vision or principle. What we need is a not “two pragmatic moderate parties” in America, we need one with vision and an ability to move on progressive goals (from energy to education to the social safety net to ending the negative influence of militarism) and a sane Republican party that acts as a check on, and accountability for Democrats.
Restating reason #521 I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton:
No it wasn’t the “right framework”. And that’s why your own party, maybe not without your help, shot it down in a heartbeat. Watch for Pres. Clinton to attempt to resurrect this zombie idea of a “grand bargain” on “entitlement reform” that will fuck everybody with less net worth than the Clintons and her benefactors.
Reason #525 I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton:
That one probably just sunk her with some parts of her own “base”. Nobody, and I mean nobody in America (or most anywhere else in the world), wants “open borders” and unlimited immigration.
Immigration must be regulated and a function of our economic and humanitarian policies, as the former has a tendency to depress wages for everyone, unless immigration is contemporaneous citizenship (or full legal rights in the economic sphere), such that unfettered immigration doesn’t depress wages for everyone.
Bravo! Well said, but personally I’ll vote for her – unless she’s way ahead in Michigan and then I’ll vote for Stein hoping the Greens get 5% plus. Trump’s bigotry and erratic bad behavior frighten me sufficiently, though I had hoped they wouldn’t and I could just ignore the Presidential contest this year once Clinton got nominated.
And Killary’s record of supporting and leading the charge into illegal, reckless and disastrous wars, along with her taunting, mocking and demonizing a nation with more nuclear warheads than the US, doesn’t frighten you as much as Trumps crude clownishness?
You need to have your fear meters serviced.
Jesus Grape-Stomping Christ, somebody gets it. The idea that Trump is a worse option than Clinton is emotional bullshit: We have seen her track record. He doesn’t have one, as he has not yet held public office.
Trump’s “At this point, what have you got to lose?” rap is, unfortunately, spot-on. And I am going to vote in this election as I have always done: For the candidate that I think would do the best job… In this case it is (again) Jill Stein.
I absolutely hate HRC though as i said on the alternet…i will bet you $5.00 that Trump will win if you don’t vote for HRC. it happened in the state of Maine where a Trump wanabe got elected because of a split vote (see samantha bee). all it takes is for good progressives to do nothing or vote third party for EVIL to triumph. SCOTUS is under attack, the freedom of THE INTERNET is under attack, and now womens VAGINA’S. If republicans win we won’t be able to have this conversation it will be all blacked out like HRC’S E-Mails,if it is allowed at all. the INTERNET will be privatized and censored. SOOO i know it cuts to the bone,hurts like hell,and makes you want to PUKE like in the EXORCIST but swallow hard and vote HRC.
Uh HRC and that other FILTH Obama have GIVEN the internet away to FOREIGNERS. I don’t know what dope you’re doing but you describe the DUMBOCRATS, NOT the Republicans.
Nope, not gonna vote for Killary.
The idea that she is somehow less dangerous than Trump is simply wrong and is based on emotion rather than rational analysis.
Hysterical nonsense outside of the obvious already blanket censorship at many alleged liberal sites.
Trump has been a moderate his whole life,btw.
There is zero chance or reason that I would do that. But I’m wondering, what are all of you fear mongering “Vote for Clinton, only [supposedly] because of Trump” people going to do if Trump now officially drops out of being the GOP candidate?
Ooh! Great question, Kitt.
I mean really now,Trump will drop out?
When he will win?
Has this election turned receptive minds mush or what?
Puerto Rico now has a $4.25 min. wage thanks to a republican congress and that is how we will compete in a “FREE TRADE” world. AUSTERITY for everyone! we might be able to bring back APPLE IPHONE production to the U.S. COMMIE APPLE BASTARDS! hAVE YOU ever thoght of how the Japanese farmer feels when we dump loads of agricultural products on them just as the Chinese dump steel, solar panels, kids toys with lead paint and defective condoms on our shores. NO TPP, TIPP OR NAFTA, we can’t compete with $4.00/hr labor. we need tariffs.
Confused much?
For me, this election really comes down to one key issue: United States national sovereignty.
Hillary Clinton clearly supports “open borders”, the pro-corporate TPP trade deal and George H.W. Bush’s/Soros’ “New World Order”.
Mr. Trump wants to uphold the U.S. Constitution, renegotiate all of our trade deals, stop the corporate TPP, close the border, focus on “legal” immigration, stop the “New World Order” and be President of the United States and not the whole world.
After considering Hillary Clinton’s “real” positions on borders, trade, her disdain for the 2nd amendment etc., I do not see how she could put her hand on the Bible and swear to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic” when her primary agenda appears to be “anti-Constitutional”.
This election might be the American people’s last chance to save what is left of our Constitution. I believe Hillary Clinton and her sycophants would gleefully ditch the Constitution so she can be Queen of “The New World Order”.
I wish the Intercept had a “like” button.
” trade policy (“my dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”).
That one probably just sunk her with some parts of her own “base”. Nobody, and I mean nobody in America (or most anywhere else in the world), wants “open borders” and unlimited immigration.”
My personal take on this was, given her audience and predilections, she was referring to open borders for capital and not people. Of course, in the minds of some, more wretched masses = lower wages and higher profits – what could those folks find wrong with that?
Hellary Clinton traded in her American citizenship for elite donations and pledges allegiance to wallstreet.
I agree with the many below who have pointed out that the Trump sexual remarks about “grabbing pussy” & etc. are getting a great deal of attention in the establishment media, far more than the odious — and ultimately far more important — statements Hillary Clinton made to Goldman Sachs. Except for one important fact this would matter.
The Clinton campaign is worried about the under-35 voters, who are reported in record numbers to be not planning to vote. Or, they won’t vote for her.
Most of these were Bernie supporters, whom we now know Clinton and her campaign call “buckets of losers” who have “low social capital.” This cohort gets its news almost exclusively online. (As Clinton appeared to know, and seemed to realize they are heavily networked on social media.)
The Goldman Sachs excerpts are all over Twitter and everywhere else online. So are the rest of the emails.
The cohort Hillary is most fretful about is learning the extent of Hillary Clinton’s contempt for them. And that she explicitly advocates taking different positions in private than she takes in public.
The Daily Beast summed Clinton’s problem up well:
For those voters it doesn’t matter in the least what absurdities Joy Ann Reid or anyone else spews on MSNBC, CNN or even the NYT. That isn’t where the relevant cohort gets its news.
All true, and how relevant will the youth cohort turn out to be?
Historically, younger people tend to vote in very low numbers, except in a few cases when an especially-attractive candidate (Obama, Sanders) stirs their interest and excitement. Like most voters this time around, the youngsters don’t like either of these candidates.
Older segments of the electorate will, by and large, turn out to vote against the more-despised candidate. I doubt that a large percentage of the youth cohort will bother.
This is why i defend Donald Trump. The effing lying thieves of wallstreet and DC wrote the rules for success. Donald played by the rules and “succeeded” without cow-towing to wallstreet, without tripping up with DC, and jumped the tricks and traps in such fashion that the crooked ones couldn’t have “leverage” on him, which they seem to have on Bernie.
Donald’s independence really bothers the crooked crowd. A lot. Hellary is a typical elite political con who wants her promotion for putting herself out for wallstreet – which robs America and Americans pretty much all the time.
I cannot fault Donald Trump for playing by their rules, achieving money success and not smelling like a rose. Wallstreet crooks and the DC political elite pandering corrupt lot got beat at their own crooked game and they are embarrassed and angry that Donald in contrast makes them appear as hypocticial and wicked as they really are.
That’s absurd, and wrong.
And if you think Donald Trump hasn’t rubbed many Wall St. shoulders you are in a fantasy world. Until very recently he was the toast of NYC — the Clintons even went to his wedding.
comment on my comment at 3:55
Isn’t the real point;Why do they hate Trump so virulently?
And that his list of detractors is a who’s who of American f*ckups and liars?
American nationalism(no Mona not just whitey nationalism)is anathema to the interests of Israel and global capitalism.
That is it in a nutshell.
Jesus,if people just don’t want reality as their guidepost in life,and truth and justice for all,vote hell bitch.
If you love your country,vote Trump.
“If you love your country,vote Trump.”
I don’t know.
I had hopes for the megalomaniac but he’s been caught orange-handed in the cookie-monster.
now they’re talking sex tape with his daughter.
No,his daughter, wife,his ex wife and his ex ex wife in a menage a quois(?).
Yeah,I believe it.(That they will come up with anything and everything such is the opposition from our enemy,you know who.)
another pussy grabbing macho asshole.
What do they have on Bernie?Is that a trick question?
Bernie is a zionist.WTF?
Israel means everything to these crumbbuns.
Trump,especially now,after this total demonization and character assassination,will definitely end their dreams of glory,hegemony and the evil they do daily.
Do people realize how much their policy of apartheid and criminality hurts US and our interests?
If that is worrisome,go vote traitor Hell Bitch.
Yes, so good the Donald “played by the rules”.
Incidentally, do those “rules” of which you speak include stiffing contractors and employees for their pay, so that he might come out of bankruptcy proceedings with a better personal bottom line, while they get screwed, and have to sue to get a fraction of what they’re owed? I guess it must, he does this regularly.
Or is this just another example of how “smart” he (thinks he) is?
Do I have to explain why citing the example of a businessman who ruthlessly exploits the law in ways which enrich him personally, but which are bought through the plundering and ruination of many others, is a really, really lousy pre-qualification for a president?
It DOES illustrate all the qualities inherent and desired in the average tyrannical despotic dictator, however. They do especially well with that tool set. No so much their ” subjects”, or the other citizens of the world, or should I say, the ones who manage to survive their reigns.
Well…Well…Well……..How interesting…..wonder how the LIBERAL media will spin this…hahah..Can’t wait…I just love good entertainment..haha.. :P
I wonder if these morons at Goldman understand that Hillary was lying to them, just exactly as much as she lies to everyone else? Hillary is a communist. She plans to betray everyone, but herself.
CrookdClinton wears GOLD FROCK TO REINFORCE HER MESSAGE AND VALUE TO B$CEOBANK$$$$!
TI commenters may are “bucket of gullibles.”
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-calls-voters-bucket-of-losers/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/that-bucket-of-losers-clinton-speech-transcript-is-totally-f?utm_term=.wxxqZVjgn0#.teKRnB5v16
I came here for more depth, and found only poor journalism, in which quotes I’ve read elsewhere were cut further to make Clinton look bad, when the original context was very different. You’ve undercut your own integrity with this kind of blatant bias and lost my respect. I will have to reexamine what I learn and have learned here. Very disappointing.
I really don’t envy American voters nor their two party political system which really seems to have revealed itself to be a second rate democracy.
This is bombshell to those of us who are plugged-in. Problem is way too many uninformed people getting information listening to soundbites. Not many will read them let alone be able to comprehend that this more evidence of what a POS HRC is.
Joy Ann Reid is an utter hack, Part 4,275
She’s tweeting claims that the emails are forgeries. No, really. Notwithstanding that neither John Podesta nor anyone else who wrote, sent or received them says that. Nevermind that the Hillary campaign would be screaming it at, among others, the NYT, who is reporting as if the emails are accurate.
Hillary hackdom is a brain disease. Reid has an acute case.
Amen, Mona. She lost any credibility she might have had with me during the ES revelations. She can interrupt her guests on a par with O’Reilly. She’s a joke.
this lady has some points – real spooky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTf0VKvXro
but it ads up
esp marker 8:00+
Screaming that they are forgeries is one way of recognizing that we just had a glimpse and the ugliness inside Hillary’s putrid mind.
Hillary’s putrid mind in contrast to the blinding purity of Trump. I almost hope you get what you wish for.
Well… Trump is the only thing that stands between Hillary and the throne so it’s either Trump or, most likely, ‘the end’. Can you imagine someone as reckless, incompetent, irresponsible, unbalanced, unhinged as Hillary given access to the nuclear buttons and allowed to command a million-plus army powered by a trillion-dollar budget?
more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Carol.
At the very least, there are more than two people in the world to set the standards.
Fuck your false binaries. Don’t you have a stupid pep rally for scared people to go to or something?
And they aren’t going to, because their techies know that WikiLeaks wouldn’t have published this material unless it had copies of the messages with full headers, which would be fairly difficult to convincingly fabricate. How would a fabricator know, e.g., where a sender or recipient may have been on a given day, and thus what path through the Internet a message would have taken?
Kampaign Klinton knows it can’t get away with trying to disown the messages, so, along with the US government, it will try to distract the mindless masses with Russophobic misdirection, which will probably work.
Also, of course, the Drumpf audio, demonstrating just what a crude creep he is and seemingly revealing him bragging about sexual assault, will attract much more attention than these substantive revelations about Hillary and her shameless lying and pandering.
More like a chronic case. I don’t think her support of the present Dem candidate is isolated or acute relating just to Hillary Clinton. My guess is this is how she would have supported whichever mainstream Dem candidate who came out of the primaries except Bernie (who she would have red-baited).
She’s a “centrist” in just about every way that I’ve noticed from what little bit I follow her statements and background except possibly on the issue of race and its effect on politics in America.
When the men who rule the corridors of Wall Street allow a lying lightweight like Hillary to propagate her ideological flatus, you know they are simply trying to “buy her off” rather than to appeal to anything decent within her.
As Krugman earlier today tweeted: “Meanwhile, Clinton still being Gored. Alleged Wall Street remarks which contain no shocks spun as terrible by the usual media suspects.”
Yeah, the Hillary hacks have been running hard with that one. Journalist Emmett Rensin smacked it down last nite:
Emmett Rensin ?@emmettrensin 15h15 hours ago
“The lesson of the tapes made public by the Supreme Court is that Nixon is exactly the crook we already knew he was”
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Emmett Rensin ?@emmettrensin 15h15 hours ago
“The lesson of the Pentagon Papers made public by the Times is that Vietnam is exactly the immoral bloodbath we already knew it was.”
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Here’s an example of ‘no shock’ in Hillary’s own words:
*Clinton: As Senator, “I Represented And Worked With” So Many On Wall Street And “Did All I Could To Make Sure They Continued To Prosper”
So, nothing to see here people. Let’s rather talk about the sexy words Trump whispered 10-11 years ago because that’s important. In fact, even Hillary, who happens to be the wife of BJ Clinton was shocked so it’s Okay for us to not pay attention at what she had to say to the bankster and discuss instead what Trump told his entertainment buddy and pal.
you’re a foolish cherry picker, you fool, she also said they would be held accountable.
Yes, “Did All I Could To Make Sure They Continued To Prosper”, clearly and perfectly in line with her PUBLIC views.
Please, stop. Your principled focus kinda’s turning me on a little.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-hillary-clinton-speech-in-san-diego-wikileaks-release-20161007-htmlstory.html
Hellary Clinton the wall-street-walkin…
lloyd pimpdaddy? blankfein of crashing America fame, loves his goto girl
hey jimmy
Nice of you to pop in
What is suspicious is your “irregular presence” which patterns in during times the hellary campaign would normally panic. I say normally meaning as would be for normal people. But Hellary has been re-conditioned to step away from “normal” and rely on the arrogance of media and f…b…i… supported lies. Can’t really tell if she got the “lies are truths” thing from Bill, or maybe she had special f…b…i… training or perhaps from Lloyd Blankfein and his wallstreet gang. What do you think, jimmy, is the the elite self serving arrogance upon which she relies for lies?
The hypocrisy of the Intercept is out in fine force with this article. No mention about 4th Amendment rights violation, no mention of the admitted collusion between Assange, Roger Stone and the obvious efforts of the journalist killed Putin to put Trump in and take down Hillary. Just cherry pick the data and create guilt by association. Could there be any greater hypocrisy than concern about the rights to privacy when it comes to the NSA, but when it comes to Russia’s Watergate like break in with the dirtiest tricks imaginable… not a peep. As the candidate whom Assange, Roger Stone, Putin are aiding would say… Saaaaaaaaaaadddd…..
Probably because this has nothing to do with the 4th Amendment.
You’re a clueless troll, Jimmy. Go away.
Dougster… just explain it to me. So, it’s not okay for the US government to hack on an American citizen in your book, but it is okay for the Russian government to do it, at least in your book. Last I heard, it’s not okay for a government to do warrantless searches of people’s property. A Fourth Amendment “search” occurs when the government intrudes on an area or information in which a person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Are you that much a hypocrite that you can’t translate that to the hacking of personal emails and handing out phone numbers? Or are you just that full of the Trumpian hatred, like Roger Stone, that you’re so simply so excited to find out that Hillary wants single payer and open borders.
You’re a clueless troll, Jimmy. Go away.
See, Jimmy, the problem you have is that it’s not Doug who doesn’t make the “translation” — it’s the Constitution of the United States. And every Supreme Court Justice who has ever applied it.
Hackery is very, very hard, eh wut, Jimmy?
Goddam, but you are stupid. Your entire feverish spiel is predicated on a glaring, fundamental error.
Oh, no, poor white struggling granny who raised her three white kids in dirt poverty… don’t you have a job, granny?
You’re a vile piece of shit, Jimmy.
Go away.
Bill will continue to rape women and de Beest will continue to destroy woman. Pretty simple to understand
Dougy is really hurting. We can help someone who hurts by hugging a neighbor in need.
You know, because I told the other Revise the Record account, that I was forced into early retirement due to health. But that when I did work, my last job was as as an attorney — Glenn Greenwald’s law partner. But even most non-lawyers know that only the United States government, including its subsidiaries, can violate one’s 4th Amendment rights.
Revise the Record is stuck on this 4th Amendment shit, tho. You and other of those hacks spewed the same erroneous claim about the DNC Leaks. Therefore, it’s in your script — Revise the Record must have concluded most of the people reading their trolls’ spewings won’t know any better.
granny?
jimmy, you probably did get potty trained so i wont accuse you of wearing diapers. But her is the thing, even tho you are not wearing diapers doesnt mean you shouldn’t use a bathroom when you talk.
Hillary, or rather Poor/Precious/Capable/Responsible/Pure/Innocent Hillary is a victim of half of Trump’s supporters who are irremediably deplorable and know no better. But we do know better so let’s stop talking about Hillary’s ugly and secret PERSONAL views and focus rather on her phony PUBLIC statements which are so beautiful and thoughtful. For example her wise plan of a no fly zone in Syria because that won’t give us WW3 for sure. And, if it did, that would be solving the global warming thing in a matter of minutes.
Doesn’t Obomba getting up there and completely lying about positive Russian involvement(Why would Russia jeopardize its already precarious relationship with these nuts?)really make one wonder why he would be so corrupt as to interfere with our democratic process to protect his potential successor?
Holy moly.
They are all fakirs,and they hate sunlight.
4th Amendment…? The US government might violate the 4th Amendment, but how can a foreign government violate the 4th Amendment…?
Try again.
The Trump apologists on here are either intentionally or unintentionally misstating the facts. It is not about what Trump SAID, but rather what he said he DID. Like most Trump critics on here, that does not automatically make us HRC supporters. We are fucked, no matter which of the two wins.
What did Trump do? Did he have or said he wished he had consensual sex with adult women? And, unlike, let’s say, Hillary’s husband, he maybe took advantage of his status of power to get into other women panties? I can absolutely see why Hillary would spend so much energy into covering up for her husband. It’s because Bill just couldn’t help it but Trump should have known better.
In his own words, he fucked married women. That aside, if you wish to vote for a racist, go for it. Between the red-lining against Blacks he and his father did, to the repeated attacks on The Central Park Five, he is a proven racist. Hopefully, they will sue his fat ass.
What he said about women and power and stardom are completely understandable by any stupid knucklehead,and if these women willingly did these alleged stuff,that makes them complicit and there is no foul.
And it happened years ago.
All Trump has to say is,that when POTUS he’ll be on his best behavior,but before and after he’ll just be himself.At least none of these women are doing J.Flowers,or at least not yet,as the MSM must be on the hunt for sex October.
I think after reading hundreds of back an forth comments that we all agree on some things and all of these comments boil down to HRC or TRUMP but what scares me is privitization of the internet as the republican congress and Obama have done with the military and our jails #we’e fucked. Subbob i think you’re right and i want to keep on having these conversations without censorship.
Thank you wikileaks, but I can’t find, “knock it off!” anywhere:)
Agreed. Good insightful article that I don´t find offensive. I guess she walks on a thin line of everything. BERNIE 2020!
*”cut it out!”:)
Yesssss! Thank you Intercept.
Nothing to see here Folks.. Donald Trump is rapist
Uh no
I’ll let this go for the moment after this one.
Just checked The Guardian. Four Trump stories dominate the top of the front page, with a large photo, followed by hurricane story, also with photo.
In the mix with the other lesser front-page stories is this headline “WikiLeaks releases what appear to be Clinton’s paid Wall Street speeches.”
Both the main Trump story and the Clinton story are open for comments. Clinton has 800-something, while Trump has garnered nearly 6,000 so far.
I think this comment from BTL on the Graun’s Clinton speeches story sums it up pretty well:
I don’t doubt that it reflects media bias but,
Greenwald’s tweet “It’s fascinating how, in order for US elites to suffer any consequences for wrongdoing, there so often has to be a sexual component to it” gets at a different aspect of it.
Anyway. People overstate how important the first day of a news cycle is to what sticks.
A plague on both their houses….and the supporters of those houses (a milder plague, something causing a mild case of guilt would be good enough)
That may well be true, Vic. Nonetheless, the central premise of Glenn’s tweet that you quoted depends upon the fairly obvious fact that the “consequences” flow from the fact that the media and the public in our society have an insatiable prurient interest in sex of all sorts, even as they have sternly prudish and punitive attitudes about anything sexual they consider the slightest bit deviant.
As for media motives for the disparity in coverage, I would wager that, although both political bias and devotion to clickbait are involved, clicks mean money and and that “trumps” all other considerations.
You cannot directly compare the number of comments below the Trump vs Clinton stories of today and yesterday in the Guardian.
1. The Trump story cannot be missed, it is the front page story. The Clinton story can only be found by an ‘advanced search’, which is what the average Guardian reader will not do when he/she searches for a story.
2. The titles that the Guardian used for Trump vs Clinton are entirely different: on Trump the Guardian is personal (rightly so) and this likely evokes emotions to a reader. On Clinton it is about something that ‘appears to be’ (that will not ring a bell to the average reader).
3. Trump (as you say) receives four stories in a row (all easy to find), Clinton just one (difficult to find)
I think this is what one calls a typical example of media bias.
And I do not agree with AllenPitt
What the Trump vs Clinton stories of today and yesterday tell me is that Clinton is always protected by media such as the Graun, and that she is always right, even when she is wrong. While Trump is just always wrong.
That is bad propaganda because making mistakes, or saying things that you’re not allowed to say is what many people can understand and can relate with as this normal human behavior. That Trump apologized for something that he said 10 years ago makes him even more charismatic than he already is thought to be by many. While Hillary Clinton is a person you just cannot relate with as a normal human being. Period.
Please note that I am not defending Trump. I am just observing the media coverage on Trump and Clinton and respond to your comment.
I think you may have jumped to incorrect conclusions WRT what I think the information I posted demonstrates.
“That Trump apologized for something that he said 10 years ago makes him even more charismatic than he already is thought to be by many.”
thank you for making me laugh
Jesus, I didn’t read that far into Willem’s post. That is hilarious.
Again the MSM loved the Rubio dick size hands crap,played it up for weeks,had their poster girl HB cackle about sodomy by knife on Khaddafi,and Bent Dick shoved a cigar up the ziomoles pussy and smoked it.
A bunch of zionist exceptionalist criminals who care not one iota for the American people other than a cash cow to empty.
Their fruits are poison,and as to their predations,as Hicks said in Aliens,”Look around”.
I(f these were actual sexual assaults,ala Bill Cosby,wouldn’t they be in court as redress?
And has any woman come forward to confirm the little pos Rubios little penis aspersions?
What a bunch of propagandists.
The advent of Trump has been pretty great in one way: everyday Democrats everywhere feel this sense of freedom advertising their total lack of standards. Go, look at any twitter conversation anywhere covering the Hillary statement. See the way regular folks enthusiastically endorse:
top-drawer “this must be fraudulent” time-out claims
unfounded Russo-phobia (on Rania Khalek’s feed, witness actual people claiming that maybe “really” there are Russian-sponsored anti-fracking environmentalists groups — I mean you never can tell with them Russkies am I right
claiming that it no longer matters that the DNC cheated because the primary is over: now the “only thing that matter is defeating Trump.”
Which is to say: Trump is the only thing that matters.
Which is to say: Our standards now depend on Trump.
Which is to say: So long as our standards are better than Trump, we are good.
Voila: the binary-surrender mindset at its finest. Death of the mind and the heart.
So true! Democrats have defined themselves as “not Trump” and that’s what they consider to be the sole reason we should vote for them. You never hear Hillary or any of her talking heads speaking about her policies, it’s always about Trump’s policies and how awful they are.
Donald Trump Tried to Fire Nancy O’Dell After She Rejected His Sexual Advances
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/07/donald-trump-tried-to-fire-nancy-o-dell-after-she-rejected-his-sexual-advances.html
Donald Trump sexism tracker: Every offensive comment in one place
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/
The Daily Show’ Digs Up Creepy Clip of Trump Defending a Statutory Rape
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/29/the-daily-show-digs-up-creepy-clip-of-trump-defending-statutory-rape.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
Just, now, Google News Top Stories:
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Who cares. Trump is on tape saying lewd things about women. That’s what’s important about this election!
HRC waxes eloquent like a reality show rich housewife. You know, when you’re dining out on Saturday night, and the next table’s execs jaw techno – so their wives indulge a bit – declaring which flash drive case’s fashion color they most prefer.
You can find the relevant stories, of course. You just have to use Advanced Search and specify a combination of exact phrases.
Just now, Google News search for “low social capital.”
The problem I have with this is that I’ve never heard of social capital. So l don’t care one way or another
Although the information leaves little doubt to what we know about Hillary: Conniving, Greedy Politician, Blatant Opportunist, Win at any cost…no matter who gets hurt (or killed)…It appears she’s damaging Donald at his own game. There has been not one man in the public eye who has abused his privileges with women (marriage infidelities, unwanted sexual attacks on women) Yet Bill is getting away with it and now Donald is being stuck w/ the label of “woman abuser”…BUT BILL CLINTON IS THE WORST. Donald used words, Bill Clinton is a maniac.
On the contrary! Alll America knows now that Trump is 100% red-blooded . Dont think for a minute you menfolk aren’t jealous of him for Melania. Now then ‘gentlemen’, let’s return to task-at-hand. Obama told the Black Caucus it takes longer than a human’s life to fix the problems, Hillary says duplicity in public and private is her ‘way’ to globalization. And as my teen votes this year, he grasps Debt Trillions and Terrorism as the new Par.
Just now, Google News search for “a bucket of losers.”
WHIO is a local radio & TV station in Dayton, Ohio.
So Hillary just assumes single payer cannot happen so why bother trying for it?
Well then, why “bother,” voting for her when Trump may actually try?
Trump is a Rorschach Blot formed with shit on unfolded toilet paper. You can read whatever you please into it.
However…..no sudden shocks here or anything…..but I think you are just a teensy-weensy bit naive thinking this lifetime Nero of New York takes the interests of the little people to his bosom.
Interesting. It reads just as well this way:
Clinton is a Rorschach Blot formed with shit on unfolded toilet paper. You can read whatever you please into it.
However…..no sudden shocks here or anything…..but I think you are just a teensy-weensy bit naive thinking this former Senator of New York takes the interests of the little people to her bosom.
My guess is that the Clinton people have been saving the “jock talk tape that most American jock males and wannabe jock males could have made” to counter the WikiLeaks revelations from the speeches she gave to banksters. Watched DeNiro rant; Trump must be threatening “Hollywood accounting” where they never pay any tax. Trump is threatening to cut corporate tax from 35% to 15% so you would think they would be falling all over him until you realize that most large corporations pay little or nothing (the NYT who outed him made ~$30M last year and got $3.6M cash back from Uncle Sam and this is not unusual. The REAL problem with Trump is that he may be a threat to the whole rotten house of cards system which should have been blown up in2008 when we had a chance; systemic risk indeed; the system is rotten to the core and needs to be blown up and tens of thousands need to be in jail. Trump is a loose Cannon and the elites who run the world hate nothing more than that. Although I align myself with Dr. Jill Stein, I would vote and work for Trump just because it might be a chance to collapse the rottenness and corruption and perhaps start again before climate change (capitalism as it exists is incompatible with life on the planet) turns the world into a dystopia. Clinton is more of the same when we need change more than any time in Human history and even bad change might be good if it results in good change. “The capitalists are so greedy, they will sell us the rope we hang them with” Lenin and now they are hanging us all and Clinton is their political representative.
Great post– I hope (and cross fingers) that enough Americans think this way. Geez how different is his tax “situation” than ANY other millionaire/billionaire/sucker of the tax payer teet? Scary thing is that I will bet that many get a better tax outcome than him!
The corrupt “democracy” in the US needs to finally fall apart– maybe Trump is the guy to do it…
The hatred of Trump is from all the criminals who have given US Glass Steagal,Iraq,Nafta,Cafta,Libya,Syria,the WTO,Russophobia,Syria,Ukraine,Somalia Afghanistan etc etc etc.
What the hell does any rational voter need?
Trump is a capitalist and isn’t interested in bringing anything down. He’s benefitted greatly from the system and would continue to do so. If he was serious, he wouldn’t have ran as a Republican. He wouldn’t have appealed to the worst elements of that party either. This campaign, for Trump, was always about building support for some future money making endeavor.
I’ve always felt that Hillary was more conservative on a lot of issues than many Republicans believe, including Trump.
Reasons #518-521 why I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton. There is nothing progressive about her policies that she won’t be foragainst or flip flop on in the name of political expediency and wanting to “accomplish” things–even bad things including anti-progressive policies from austerity, to financial regulation to energy policy, to regime change.
Seriously, this is the worst non-choice in an American presidential election that has provided the American people in my lifetime.
I wonder if the “restrained spending” includes restraining subsidies for large parts of private corporations. Austerity for the poor and “incentives” for the rich, a three part formula to transfer wealth to the top.
To be asked, henceforth, at every opportunity: “Would you be willing to share [your/the candidate’s/the president’s] private position on this issue?”
It’s great to see both the terrible candidates having embarrassing October surprises.
Now what we need is a citizenry who will quit making excuses for just ONE of them and vote for somebody else (or even don’t vote at all, if that’s your particular way of dealing with stress). Either Stein or Johnson are at least not disgusting human beings. Even your never-to-be-counted write-in vote is preferable (nobody actually tallies that for you except in states with advanced clerical skills built into the process).
People who would vote for either Trump or Clinton are the ones who really have no business acting like they are more responsible. They embrace and inflict the false binary….then they blame it on everybody else for “making them” do it. Take responsibility for your vote rather than pretending like you had to join a particular crowd because, you know, that other crowd over there is bad. The crowds are full of terrible people and you become one of them.
Oh get over yourself. It’s a nice fantasy but its never going to happen. We either are stuck with evil lying Hillary or politically incorrect Donald for the time being. Quit bitching and face reality.
Don’t do “lesser” evil – go for greater good. Vote for Jill Stein.
Right, cop out and vote for someone who will not win, and help elect the man who will assure the makeup of SCOTUS for the next 2-3 decades reincarnates Scalia on steroids. Vote for that someone who no one has bothered to dig up any thing on, who has no, absolutely NO experience in governance or public service, and believes vaccinating our children against devastating and communicable diseases like polio and TB should be a matter of choice. Vote for that woman who was so disappointed Bernie just didn’t immediately pop on over and lead her party, after doing all the hard work? Stein gives opportunism a bad name. We all know Trump is the greater “evil”, but go ahead and cop out.
You said “cop out” twice. I understand: when you have to argue things that are the polar opposite of the truth, you need to repeat them loudly.
Stupid people like you are the problem. If you’re a progressive and waste your vote on Stein or don’t voe at all, then you’re basically supporting Trump. The stupidity of people like you is dangerous.
We can never, ever permit this criminal hag to become president.
I think it is far too late. She will become the next president and this mockery of a democratic republic will only get more corrupt before it all falls like a house of cards.
Unfortunately I fear you are right. Remember Bush v Gore, EVEN if everyone voted for Jill Stein– do you really think the MIC, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs would let her win?? Diebold knows what it is doing with those electronic “voting” machines…
On the one hand is Trump: all-American, patriotic philanthropist if for his beloved NYC, 100% red-blooded, libido-confirmed, no hair implants, American Dream multi-billionaire, babe betrothed, self-made, guy who finally admits Megyn Kelly gets under all our nerves, author, board game creator (sorry, its in the list), and elbow-rubber with all the world’s wealthiest despite their denials. On the other hand is Clinton Fdn darling, UN sweatheart, Alinsky poster child, belly laughing bop toy, cadaver constituency collector, candidate Hillary. So many more dead people and illegals than conservatives and crony-sickened. Trump may just lose this contract.
Lying crooked Hillary. A traitor.
…“So, you need both a public and a private position.”…..
In other words, you lie to the people and make backroom deals with bankers.
Such a slimy, conniving, manipulative bitch. And yes, Trump is a dirty misogynist asshole, but of course, that’s been out there for the world to see for a long time.
“Free health care”, “tuition-free college”…prime examples of her manipulative drivel.
I have a big problem with organizations supporting Cybercrime, specifically the latest Russian State sponsored Email hacking. This is not any different than the hacking of celebrity or private intimate photos. It is in the same category of posting explicit images ex-girlfriend – revenge porn.
The Intercept is stooping into tabloid style trash journalism. You may feel this information is important, but your journalistic ethics and integrity now, are on the same level of other low brow shock jock demagogues, ie. Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, and Alex Jones.
Ethical standards require the complete story, releasing information for “one” candidate is the definition of biased journalism. Unless you are willing to publish the ‘hacking’ of the entire spectrum of political figures, to show some sort of human inconsistency and folly, then this edited snippet is just another hit piece.
The Intercept is promoting a new information age Pandora’s Box, and everyone’s privacy will be fair game, including your organization. Think about that, do you support the idea of an NSA expansion into the lives of your staff, to this level of disclosure? Can you imagine who will win the new NSA – Wikileaks cyber war of personal destruction? Is this something your staff thinks they could withstand?
Sadly, The Intercept has taken the bait, and have been used by anti Democratic forces in an elaborate destabilization effort by EX KGB – Putin.
Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, and Julian Assange, probably all had high intentions and motivations when they pondered their actions. Is this type of selective subversive snooping on private individuals, political figures, and world leaders, going to lead to a better and more open global society?
Or, does it have the potential of morphing into a ‘private cyber crime NSA style subversive force’ of, State destabilization, blackmail, propaganda, smear, and political personal destruction?
The Intercept; opened the jar and all the evils flew out, leaving no “Hope” inside, because it could not be closed it again.
“my dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”
Reagan had the same dream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcTPwHY-LpY
Yeah but… but Trump, he talked about a woman’s cha cha, that’s it, he’s done…. give me a break.
What a lame attempt to smear Hillary. There’s NOTHING in her speech that would change ANY voter’s mind. Nothing you said in this article (and nothing she said in her speeches) is new. Everybody already knows that Hillary is for free trade, and now she also insists on protections for U.S. workers as well – in any trade deals.
She’s not denying anything. But these are non-threats. Back when she made those speeches (as a private citizen) she understood that free health care (single payer) was out of the question given the Republican Congress. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t want to see single payer – it’s just that it WOULDN’T PASS at that time. It wouldn’t pass today either. Maybe some day. But she is more realistic than that.
And Hillary has said repeatedly throughout this campaign that she and Bill are among the 1% who is favored in this country – and she is working to change that. But she admits it means she does not suffer the same injustices that people who are NOT wealthy endure. Her supporters already understand that.
So NOTHING you present here is any kind of threat to her campaign.
And compared to Donald Trump’s penchant for stepping in huge mounds of doo-doo, this isn’t really dirt at all.
BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME.
1. “kind of far removed because the life I’ve lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven’t forgotten it.”-
You do not forget where you came from- that shows that she has a heart.
2. Clinton declared to a crowd of Goldman Sachs bankers that in order to “figure out what works,” the “people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry.”- that is a fair one- she is challenging the finance industry to come up with solutions which work for everybody- them being in the industry should support capitalism but stop crony capitalism- it is up to the WS – at least a section of it to start doing this.
3.“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,” Clinton said- quit complianing about bias- because things are not working out for hard working class- complain will hold fire. If that is a problem- Hillary should try to solve it.
4. As a Physician and Sanders supporter I like this:During a talk in Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2013, Clinton praised the single-payer model for health care reform. “If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care,” she said, adding that there were some drawbacks. “They do impose things like waiting times, you know.”- her heart is where Sander’s is! She wants to lie to achieve the TRUTH which helps everybody who is sick and ill (we all will be including us Physicians) as to SANDERs who wants to tell the TRUTH as it should be said.
I am happy with Hillary.
Is that all you got?
I just read the excerpts from Hillary’s speeches on huffpost.
One thing that kept getting repeated was (Trump’s line) “…somebody should figure it out”.
Just another reason Hillary or Donald are NOT qualified to be president.
On another note…
Huffpost said last year that they were not going to take Trump’s candidacy seriously because of his bigoted comments, and that they were going to relegate “news” about him to the entertainment section of their website. I wanted to quote some passages from Hillary’s quotes but less than an hour later the story about her speeches had been yanked. Now huffpost’s stories are almost ALL Trump! I thought I was looking at Trumpdotcom!
Here it is:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-wall-street-speeches-wikileaks_us_57f81ff8e4b068ecb5de8b08?utm_hp_ref=hillary-clinton
Hillary is a Globalist. There is a group of people who dream of world government. You think I’m a conspiracy theorist?
On February 17, 1950, James Paul Warburg confidently declared to the United States Senate: “We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
That was a Warburg as in high level banking family. These financiers have the means to buy politicians such as Clinton. At least Trump already has money with in my view makes him somewhat immune to graft. This is why the establishment is so against Trump.
If they were concerned about womanizing than Bill Clinton never would have been supported by their elk.
Hillary wants a North American Union, basically an EU of North America. An yes she knows her audience.
Who supports Hillary?
1) Communist / Socialist who want to use Climate change to legitimize the UN and thus world government
2) useful idiots manipulated by the group above
3) illegal and legal aliens who either don’t understand our Republic or are angry because the take Trump’s comments personally. Trump was referring to criminal illegals, but all immigrants are getting bowed up
4) Certain Blacks who self restrict themselves to the Democratic Party’s plantation
5) Other liberals who believe that Clinton is going to revive FDR’s New Deal. The irony is Bill Clinton killed Glass Stegal act which was the only piece of legislation that keep the economy from being destroyed by Clinton’s Wall Street click.
If you want to see the U.S. march towards World Government by remaking the demographics of the country by flowing it with illegals than Clinton is your candidate.
If you want to see race used as a means to power while the streets are burning vote Clinton.
If you want to see perpetual War to bring about world government vote Clinton.
If you want to see the Republic is an eventual civil war as the goals of the globalist become more obvious and people are forced to defend their children from future serfdom vote Clinton.
“…You try to figure out what’s going to work and what’s not going to work…”[Clinton Speech For National Multi-Housing Council, 4/24/13]
“…what happened with greater transparency, with greater openness on all sides, you know, what happened, how did it happen, how do we prevent it from happening? You guys help us figure it out and let’s make sure that we do it right this time…” [Goldman Sachs AIMS Alternative Investments Symposium, 10/24/13
“…How do you get to the golden key, how do we figure out what works? And the people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry…” [Goldman Sachs AIMS Alternative Investments Symposium, 10/24/13
She just can’t figure it out.
Obama handled all these issues. Go to whitehouse dot gov Presidential Actions. He’s rolled out more in the last few weeks than most Potus’ entire tenures. Why his recently declared, transparency policy invites ‘upon request by name, anyone may view anyWH tourist’s roster info – see below daily tour databases…’ And his Security Waiver and Disclaimer Letter lists more WDC depts and Sr official job titles than you can fit under your ‘Get Out Of Jail Free’ Monopoly board corner. And a Balanced Budget fix? Just last week, he advised his (our) governing counterpart bodies that all remaining Bal Budget funds are forthwith directed by his Order to Overseas/Terrorist management and maintenance administrators. But I’ll leave to you read the provided Codes and Sections cited as to whom and for what. Of course, this profundity of success excludes his last month Order for million$ each, from 2012 and 2014 DoD budget excesses, that he has redirected toward (oh, flip a coin) military readiness. Maybe he already knows who’s winning the WH bid, as this week he required a mandatory full review and dosiier reporting in 120 days to the Potus’ desk which, tho’ a usual and customary inventory task, doesn’t belong in Pres. Actions files. Unless it tracks a larger, looming event. Recall, inventory stuff was a Condi Rice kind of task a decade or so ago, like the UN Womens’ Global Abuses Report that GWBush was harangued by Hillary to prepare, so she could feel like telling the UN what they already knew made them care so much more deeply? HRC in the WH. Let’s not insult BO with anything other. He’s named almost more Forest Parks than any other president before him. Nice, writing your girls that book and touting it for Education agenda. (No worries, God and our Founding Patriots charge neither you nor your publishers any copyright infringement, in borrowing “Of Thee I Sing” as it’s title.) Farwell Mr. Community-Organizer-In-Chief. Your economic, labor, trade, immigration, voter fraud, war, health care, and door-kicking podium-trashing uberness aren’t Bush’s fault. Tho they certainly inform my teen’s first year’s vote decisions. I have to go. My shoe soles need cleaning, again.
Is this Clark guy some kinda of Clinton shill program? You type like a robot man.
There are millions of insiders who know the same dirt Trump knows about Hillary and the establishment system. Problem is, were Trump to start talking about this, none of them would back him up. Dead end.
If and when Hillary Clinton responds to this leak,
there is an unlimited number of ways in which she can deny
that these “quotes” are what they appear to be.
I suspect that Carrk will be portrayed as somehow delusional
and that his “quotes” are only second hand hearsay.
The only real proof will be if there are leaked recordings of
Clinton actually saying the words. If not, all of this can be
dismissed by her team as sloppiness and then they can portray her
as being a victim of the Russians depravity – as in –
“Poor Hillary, she tries so hard and her own team can’t even be
totally trusted to adequately protect us all from the evil Russians!”
Beware of neocon frauds (democrat and republican) bearing gifts.
The Clinton campaign has already stated they will not be commenting on stolen materials.
“The Clinton campaign has already stated they will not be commenting on stolen materials.”
So, they tacitly confirm the veracity of the documents.
So Clinton lies – this is news?
He took her “furniture shopping ” -” but she wouldn’t sleep with him.” Simple case of bad “technique”. He should have just RAPED her like Bill Clinton was known to do . Trump should have just Put an Arkansas State Trooper to guard the door and then Drop his pants on her . Of course, then Trump , after denying he ever met her , would have had to pay Paula Jones 850 grand to settle the lawsuit after Paula revealed that she could identify certain “identifying marks” on his penis.
I find it a bit significant and maybe rather telling that Robert Mackey was not among the four journos who contributed to this piece on HRC. Would he have been a cuckoo intruding upon a robin’s nest?, pray tell me.
Please, they’ve got a few too many cooks in the kitchen as it is.
*and you know perfectly well Bob Mackey is working overtime on Trump’s latest ‘pussy grabbing’ techniques!?
You haven’t heard? Mr. Trump has dropped out of the race, signed on with Fox News to host his own talk show and has hired Mr. Mackey as his chief publicist. Mr. Mackey is still writing that article, but from a new angle. The title of the piece is ‘What you can learn from Mr. Trump’s techniques’.
You have to wonder what the intercept crowd thinks of open borders and creating a global community and single payer health insurance… Hmmm… I guess since they’re getting their information from Vlad and an accused rapist, Assange, and pumping their fists about it… what exactly do they believe in? Hmmmm…. Better ask Sean Hannity, maybe he would know.
by getting info from an accused rapist did you mean bill clinton’s comments on the ACA?
The voice of the neocon jimmy-ing for more plunder.
Jimmy is having a brain freeze. In his defense it’s hard to keep lying for other people. The neurons go on strike at some point.
@ Jimmy
Assange wasn’t, and has never been, legally charged or being investigated for “rape” in the American criminal sense of the word. And neither of the women he had sex with have contended that. That charge, as I understand it is unique to Sweden’s criminal code, in that it is a crime to have sex without a condom without permission, not that he had any sort of sex without consent or via force or coercion which would be rape.
I’m not saying I approve of what it is alleged Assange is accused of doing, as I believe consent needs to be knowing and specific in all respects. But as far as I’m aware he isn’t/hasn’t been charged with anything equivalent to “rape” as it is understood under American law.
jimmy,
i can help you perhaps end your confusion about hellary
hint: “wallstreet is robbing you”
lesson #1. HELLARY CLINTON IS WALLSTREET’S GET-AWAY DRIVER
Perhaps a shortcut for the whole picture of crooked hellary and her henchy dws – just remember H.I.L.L.A.R.Y.
Hillary
Isa
Likeable
Liar
And
Robs
You
Curious that this article leaves out her comments about having dreams of a hemispheric common market, with free trading and open borders….. to me that one is as problematic as anything else she said.
There is NO candidate worthy of voting for in this election. We need to dump this entire election cycle, and start over from scratch. Primaries are needed. New Candidates are needed. Can we extend the Obama term for another 6 months while we RE-VOTE?
Absolutely not. America could not survive six mor months of that racist imbecile.
So, Obama is worthy and Jill Stein is not.
You are delusional.
You’re right, Jill Stein is not worthy.
I agree with Clark. Jill Stein has common sense solutions for the dire problems that the US has brought upon itself.
Another 6 months of POTUS? Nuts.
*pushes fingers deeper into ears and squints eyes even more tightly shut* but but but Trump said stuff about women and he’s a racist because he wants to enforce immigration law waaaaah I’m a retarded snowflake waaaaaah I hate Christians and this statement by Trump gives me an excuse to look down at Christians so I’m like a pig in sht yay
It is too bad that the general public will not get to see what Hillary told the banks. However, they will get to see and hear what Trump said in his locker room comments. Which is more important to the country?
There is a big effort just now to have the biggest “October surprise”.
Hillary Clinton is carrying around so much baggage that could sink her, Trump on the other hand has never been a politician so all they can come up with is a remark made about a Miss Universe contestant, his taking legal tax deductions, or any other ridiculous thing they can find.
Clinton thinks people are stupid especially women. . Her husband is a serial rapist. The stamina she bragged resulted in the Middle East on fire. Stamina is what Donald Trump demonstrates everyday. He is getting hit from all sides including the Republican party. I blame Reince Priebus for all of this. Why dosent he just make an announcement not to vote and give it to Clinton. She is following Yassar Arafat way of campaigning. He would say one thing in Arabic and another in English. This woman is dangerous and is ready to destroy the middle class. How anyone even considering voting for her is an idiot or a Communist
If the country is the least bit lucky the moderators will be asking Mrs. Clinton about the various Wall Street remarks at this Sunday’s debate and when she lies and says they are not true Mr. Trump will say, “Then release the transcripts of all your damn speeches so the American people will see what you DID say!!!”
Just more proof that Clinton has 50 positions on any one topic. Which is real?
Whichever one lines her pockets and the pockets of her supporters.
Whichever one you like the most!
Exactly– BUT because she isn’t a huge sexist blowhard we don’t hear it– these people are the worst the quietly manipulative types– haven’t we ALL worked with people like this??? At least with Trump is what you see is what you get.
The one where she is on her knees fellating zion and the banksters.
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,”
Except that there are multiple definitions of “successful” and “complicated.” From my angle, it looks like her concern about bias is at odds with anyone else’s. She’s worried about ethics rules meant to prevent people from biasing the system for their own gain, a problem which would most negatively impact people who are legitimately successful, or who are in complicated situations which rely on a trustworthy system to resolve.
so basically, she says whatever the current audience wants to hear no matter the audience….pure unadulterated political animal with zero core convictions of her own. Is that not the big red flag for socio-pathology? She doesn’t relate to other people, so she “fakes it.” What she is when she shows up is wholly dependent on who she is seeing at the time.
and do you note that she never quite ever finishes a clear thought; the sentences do not lend themselves to easy interpretation – I mean, it reads like varying different thoughts and sentences cut up and mixed up in a hat and then spilled out onto a table.
That is also intentional.
I am saddened to learn of this commitment failure. If we cannot believe her spoken word ( public position ) why is she a worthy candidate ?
“If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least,” said Clinton. “So, you need both a public and a private position.”
Sounds like an admission of corruption to me. No one would be “nervous, to say the least” about ethical actions. And why should there be any “back room discussions” and “deals”? Because they are in it for the rewards of government corruption.
I have ordered some bumper stickers for my car:
“So, you need both a public and a private position.” – Hillary Clinton
I know Hillary and her big shot friends will not have a “waiting time” when they need medical care.
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,”
Yeah. like making 100,000 dollars on pork belly futures, right Hillary?
She’s(and B.D.)worth $123,000,000.00 from public service as a one and a half (?)term senator and 4(?) years as SS.He had two terms as POTUS.
Does not legally compute.
On one hand, the Monopoly Media is having hysterics about locker room talk by Trump (while ignoring rape actions and attacks on the victims by the Clintons) and Hillary is clearly exposed as a public liar while she reveals her true intentions to the very people who are bribing her to be certain she will allow them unfettered access to the 4 Trillion Dollars the Federal Government spends every year.
Not that it will really matter. If the Republicans wanted to win (and they easily could have) they wouldn’t have nominated Donald.
why are you trying to hurt hillary!? don’t you know there is only one choice that can save the world? THAT’S HILLARY!
I hate the intercept because your posting LIES!
Hillary says you need to have a public and a private position on things so that the public doesn’t pay as much attention to all the side deals?
I’m shocked. Shocked I tell ya. This woman is totally crooked and corrupted.
So Crooked Hillary definitely is untrustworthy and can’t be president. $500 million for al-Qaeda recruiting that got over 4,000 American Soldiers killed makes her fit for the gallows not the White House.
Vote TRUMP
He will rise, because of this:
https://youtu.be/WVdzOcoNvfQ
Clinton makes Lady MacBeth look like Mother Theresa.
Fear of Trump or desire for power, that’s all I can think of. the man cant be trusted http://citizenpaper.co.uk/ i even feel like if i study the life in the uk test would probably need to leave the us
I can’t wait to hear Sen. Sanders response to this.
If he had any say he would take back his endorsement however Trump also had crazy video realised. America worst years. They should keep Obama in the office.
I think i will leave America and maybe go to Europe instead. Its becoming unsafe for the future of our kids. Let me start taking a British citizenship online called life in the uk test here for those of you thinking the same http://citizenpaper.co.uk/
I see many US threads where dudes still conclude that Wikileaks Julian Assange is guilty of rape. I guess if you can believe an FBI concocted story to bring down someone who can gut the US govt with truth, then you can believe anything you are told and still vote for Hilary. Have fun with the consequences guys. Maybe need to lift yer education system a bit.
*Clinton: “But If Everybody’s Watching, You Know, All Of The Back Room Discussions And The Deals, You Know, Then People Get A Little Nervous, To Say The Least. So, You Need Both A Public And A Private Position.”*
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
i see no need for analysis or meaning translation other than a simple
Hellary Clinton is a two-faced lying back-stabbing wallstreet-walking #####
https://www.youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=gtTGfWDamVE
Vote for Hellary to continue the fraudulent war on terror, and the war profiteering that is bankrupting the US :
Pentagon paid British PR firm $500 million to create fake al-Qaeda recruiting videos wsws.org
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/08/bell-o08.html
*****DOUBLE BINGO*****
Let’s hope TRUMP finds this information before the 2nd Debate. VOTE TRUMP
Pentagon paid British PR firm $500 million to create fake al-Qaeda recruiting videos wsws.org
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/08/bell-o08.html
Who benefits from a US Military actively fabricating a seemingly expansive omnipresence for those former afghan allies purported to have had command and control over Saudi financed 911 perps?
What we have here is an “ongoing false flag media outreach effort” designed to exaggerate Al-Qaedas feigned “self documented” recruiting success while highlighting (manufacturing) a public perception of the unchecked growth of a specific imminent threat actor. In this case Al Qaeda. In the next case to be sure ISIS / ISIL / Daesch.
A false flag attack (Orlando, San Bernadino, Boston, 911, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor) is a single event. A snapshot in time. An event staged to achieve a specific social or political effect or in many recent cases to swing draconian surveillance initiatives in every european capitol PDQ ASAP.
One madman wanders the halls of Canadian, French or Swiss legislatures with a gun, or stabs one soldier on the home front yelling “god is great”, or someone beheads one or two people (at 4% the monthly Saudi rate) on youtube, or someone drives a bus into a crowd, assassinates a few cartoonists or plants or mails anthrax to those in key positions to swing votes on the post 911 Patriot Act in their home offices or the Capitol Building…
Shortly after Newsweeks’ “Dark Prophet” (Edward Snowden) went public the initial public outcries by the european and five eyes political classes (Remember all those NSA disclosure related embassy recalls and John Kerry photo ops?) reached their zenith even while they were discovering their own nations intelligence agencies deep complicity in the NSAs wholesale collection of data on their national populations the US Militarys requires for thread modeling and ongoing experiments in predicting both individual human behavior (Search DIAs US Persons criminal database and Posse Comitatus) and in predicting the collective behavior (at scale) of entire human populations in ever multiplying natural and man made threat scenarios.
Once discovered to continue justifying the expansion of the NSAs data collection efforts (even while individual nations commenced soon to be scuttled formal investigations of the NSAs wholesale illegal actions) the NSA and US Military began pointing to each conveniently occurring previous and subsequent attack to make a case for continuing their wholesale collection efforts. Moreover they used these statistically insignificant (bathtubs, bee stings, crashed cars, lightning strikes etc) small scale attacks playing out in the european canadian and australian capitals on almost on cue with their respective legislative schedules to argue for retroactive legislative support. Although these attacks were minor compared to the 911 and anthrax scares in the states the european and five eyes legislative and executive branches responded quite similarly to how our own US Congress had after the 911 and anthrax attacks even with much smaller body counts to justify their actions.
Within less than two years we found the same nations who had so voiciferously protested the NSAs illegal surveillance were now approving their own draconian Patriot Acts targeting every very single one of their law abiding citizens (which they themselves had been protesting their opposition to a scant few months before) right up to and including the Swiss just recently in 2016. The effing unaligned Swiss for Gods sake
Pentagon paid British PR firm $500 million to create fake al-Qaeda recruiting videos wsws.org
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/08/bell-o08.html
This is small potatoes. Julian Assange has the good on Hillary but her people scared the daylights out of him or threatened Ecuador enough that Assange fears that he might get evicted from the embassy.
The trump folks must be so pleased that the Russians are influencing the election by hacking and selectively releasing information to ensure their puppet or favored candidate has a better chance of securing the presidency.
But…but….but… Trump said lewd comments about women 11 years ago … Look over there.. Look over THERE!!!
TRAITOROUS DEMOCRATS have lost their base.
“The Democratic Party has turned its back on working people and now pursues policies that actually increase inequality.
The first piece of evidence is what’s happened since the financial crisis. This is the great story of our time. Inequality has actually gotten worse since then, which is a remarkable thing. This is under a Democratic president who we were assured (or warned) was the most liberal or radical president we would ever see. Yet inequality has gotten worse, and the gains since the financial crisis, since the recovery began, have gone entirely to the top 10 percent of the income distribution.
This is not only because of those ‘evil Republicans,’ but because Obama played it the way he wanted to. Even when he had a majority in both houses of Congress and could choose whoever he wanted to be in his administration, he consistently made policies that favored the top 10 percent over everybody else. He helped out Wall Street in an enormous way when they were entirely at his mercy.
It makes me sick
None of us has a horse in this race. The Ruling class does (HRC) and trump does (himself). Corporate media manipulation is real. Bread & circuses is what we get. Im far from from a republican- I’ve actually only voted dem my entire life, however I’m independent and informed enough to know that my interest are in no way aligned with the Bushes’, Rothschilds’, Rockerfellers’, Clintons’, Kennedys’, or the Trumps’.
Our (Dems) choices this year were a Socialist or a very flawed power hungry corporate puppet who has already lived in the WH for 8 years. And she still could lose to Donald freaking Trump. It would be hillarious if it wasn’t real life.
The only reason I’d like to see trump win is to kill the 2 party system. It’s inherently corrupt. We need real choices and better ways to get unfiltered info.
C’mon people!
CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THESE CLINTONS Crooked? Criminal? Corrupt? as it gets! – would steel a hot stove if they could. THEY STOLE GEORGE WASHINGTONS CHINA AND SILVERWARE FROM THE WHITEHOUSE (when they letf. They gave it back)
WHo GIves a shit about some locker room talk on trumps hot mic while he wasn’t aware of it… The very hyprocritical fact that hillary’s “outraged and shocked at trumps comments towards women” is so comical… especially that comment is only aimed at about half of the population voting for her didn’t know that billy was a player and a serial infidelist and oh yeah, A RAPIST!. a couple that has had to setlle multiples cash setllements, and coherse, threaten and discredit the victims to not talk about their experiences fromt he sexual assaults that happened. Bill had multiple known women he’d assaulted, and unknown amount of prostutes and he’d been with… And now Danney williams, a black and white spitting image of bill, is now speaking up “DAd, I’d like to finally shake your hand!”.
all of this goes on and on about the character of the clintons, but this one moment that trump is caught locker talking like frank sinatra or dice clay, he all of a sudden becomes the dehumanized subhuman monster?
WTF?
WHo is morally worse?
a man with a sloppy mouth, like Trump?
Or a woman that would defend a sexual predator – her husband -like hillary?
The choice is obvious people!
you either want 8 more years of this, the failed policies run by the same crony corrupt crew of elitist globalist crony rules in charge – the clintons, bushes ,obamas? the same people working in the DOJ not prosecuting clintons? the same people effing everything up?
Or do you want the country to go in a different direction? from an outsider that beleives we shouldn’t continue to sell out this country to foriegn interests and a the UN, one world government and wide open borders.
We need a direction different than the coure we’re headed.
REalize we cannot continue on the same path, and we MUST elect that person that gives us that chance. Hillary will only continue on the failed course of obama, and its abundant;y clear she’s not going to change a damn thing.
Vote Trump- for Change and new direction. Not because you like him, because he’s NOT a clinton.
For God sakes -average incomes haven’t increased in 16 YEARS!
we cannot have hillary in office.
Vote Trump
He’s loud and boisterous
this is true,
But he’s willing to fight
for me and you.
So go ahead notice
his hair and his tan,
But remember there’s more
that makes up this man.
With him our future
is strong and bright,
Unnecessary wars
he will not fight.
Dividing us by race
is not his game,
The color green
brought him to fame.
Safety at home
begins with a wall,
A booming economy
means jobs for all.
I trust this man
who speaks his mind,
He is most definitely
one of a kind.
Americas president
he wishes to be,
Americans first
is his decree.
So join with me
this November eight,
And vote for
making America great!
Please keep on talking and sharing that comment on multiple sites and confront the undereducate, clueless, hillary supporters, still looming on the handful of mainstrem media controlled sources that don’t expose her of the real news, and all the other news sources that have different information than what they’re brainwashed with on CNN and MSNBC and the rest.
WE all need to double down on the informatoin war agains tthe truth that the talking heads readin the whitehouse narrative on the news is spinning the truths.
Everything is a spun narrative from the MSM reporting.
HAvent seen one storey about Clinton’s Bastard son= Danny williams, or the coverage of the bill clinton rape victims speaking out, or the fact that they’re trying to stop the talk of “bill clinton is a rapist” is trending now. and they still wont talk about it ….
God help us if they win at steeling this election.
be prepared if she “wins”….
NAFTA AD $1 an hour CLINTON Goldman Sachs. Mexican Government took out a $1 an hour ad to see AD go to ( public Integrity the trading game ) download go to page 105,106,23,24 see how many friends of Bill and Hillary Clinton’s got rich off the Mexican Government. See how U.S. Truckers got sold out because of NAFTA go to the Dallas Morning news January 9,2015.
proof! otherwise u r a bunch of cheap liars
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,”
I think Cronus said it first, nom nom.
(?)
Public and Private positions. Where is the truth? What gets done?
She has no standard
Hope the media has the moxie to ask “Is that your public or private position” after every question ans..
Yes Folks, Podesta is a weasel. But I would really like to see Sidney Bloomenthal’s emails on yoga and wedding plans for Chelsea though. We all know we’ll never get any emails on Bathhouse Barry as the SS acid washed anything and everything on this guy.
Yes Folks, Podesta is a weasel. I would really like to see Sidney Bloomenthal’s emails on yoga and wedding plans for Chelsea though.
This is an erroneous conclusion:
Lee, Zaid, Alex, and Naomi don’t seem to understand that Clinton is 100000% committed to the ruling class agenda. Therefore Clinton is murderously opposed to universal healthcare for the masses. In fact, the very right wing policies Clinton brazenly supports undermines any possibility of single payer in the US.
Uhm, no it’s not. Clinton is a FREAK and cannot step one foot in the White House.
Speaking of not understanding, someone can only be 100% for something. ;-)
Perhaps you’ve misunderstood?
One can, quite obviously, be 100000% for something, or any other number. In the American-English language or dialect such a statement is a metaphor, not to be taken literally, as you seem to have done. The extra zeroes indicate multiples of 10, literally, and are used to express a very high emphasis or enthusiastic support for a position, as Vivek has done.
We’ve been telling you for years she is a crooked, old-fashioned politician, dirty as it gets. She is a tired old re-tread and is NOT QUALIFIED to be President.
When will you provide any evidence that Hillary is is a crooked, old-fashioned politician that is as dirty as it gets.”
So far all you have is slander and speculation.
Trump is a real man. Many real men brag and talk like this.It does not bother me at all as a woman. Now, I would get mad if I heard my husband, but I’d just make him buy me a makeup present! Lol….
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Note that he said she turned him down. Now on the hand, what Bill did was very nasty and he did not accept no from several women. I sure like what Trump did better than beta male Obama who us a pansey who lets Russia, Iran, n Korea and several others run over us. Or Hillary who likes war so much because the globalists make money from it
This on a night when the Republican nominee is going down in flames. SMH.
Boo-fucking-hoo, from one of the so-called BernieBros (me)
this is from The Daily Beast:
So Hillary told Goldman Sachs, we’re just “a bucket of losers” who have “low social capital.” She certainly, then, doesn’t need the votes of such as we.
The clintons can not be trusted. Wake up …hot water hillary does not have
Any background other than politics and manipulation. White water, Benghazzi
Water, email water, shore Bank water, speeches water, Iran deal and pay for play water…..no more please,,
complexities are a combination of simplicities
i heard in a video that bill clinton’s talk to loretta lynch about grandchildren – how well you want to see them do – is an old school threat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTf0VKvXro
from location 8:00 on the video line for about a minute
i am not a conspiracy fantasiser but neither am i an organised crimes denier.
What is this obsession with trust? The Potus never has told you everything and never will, because you can’t handle the truth.
Yeah, I saw that movie too.
Ah, then HRC has a ‘basket of deplorables’ for low social capital people like you who refuse to vote for her. aka you Trump/Putin lover
*Im wondering from a legal standpoint, Mona, how it is HRC’s $225k ‘upward per speech’ contractual arrangements with, say, Goldman Sachs, can impose/enjoin non-disclosure on the often large audiences? *I’m assuming through their (the audience) employment agreements w/ GS … surely the entire audience didn’t have to sign individual blood oaths of silence to hear the speech?
An interesting point you make: ” surely the entire audience didn’t have to sign individual blood oaths of silence to hear the speech?” In particular, how within the heart of the IC there have been more than one person willing to risk being charged with violations of the Espionage Act to come forward with the truth, people like Edward Snowden, while in the financial community – surely a comparable number of people – nobody is willing to risk even the possibility of being fired to come forth with the contents of any of Clinton’s insider speeches. That tells me a lot about the morals and integrity of the senior employees of those firms.
My guess is that members of the audience are prohibited from bringing recording devices into the speaking venue. A few people have told reporters about some of HRC’s statements, but have nothing proving it.
You’ve been had. There was no “bucket of losers” remark. https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/that-bucket-of-losers-clinton-speech-transcript-is-totally-f?utm_term=.ykLG1Y2J8R#.twj0Vng5RG
The pretend-offended females enjoyed 50 Shades of Grey; pretend-offended males would vote for Bill Clinton if he could run for a 3rd term as POTUS. Hillary is a criminal, lying, treasonous, unindicted felon, and now this email dump with more to come. She is not worthy of becoming POTUS!!!
has this leak meant to damage Hillary?!! :)- Actually I think Clinton Campaign leaked this on purpose themselves!! This speech will in fact make her poll number go even higher!
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,” Clinton said.
Well Hillary, your “successful” life wouldn’t be “complicated” if it wasn’t based on corruption, pay to play, a rigged primary and lies, smears and hate speech against Sanders and his supporters. THAT is why we are “biased” against elite oligarch slime like you (and Blankfein).
It is a big mistake to assume that these messages were
anything more than a creation by Tony Carrk.
It is possible that they were designed to create sympathy for Clinton
and it is also possible that they a part of the campaign strategy
to reassure her financial backers while promoting the impression
that Clinton’s campaign is supposedly the victim of
predatory Russians.
There is no reason to believe these are actual quotes of Clinton.
It may be that Wikileaks and the authors of this article are being used
in a far more nefarious scheme which may have been deliberately
concocted by Clinton’s campaign.
It is highly unlikely that these peculiar “quotes” can be verified
and
it is highly unlikely that anyone who supports Clinton will stop
supporting her, even if these are her actual words.
It is also not beyond Clinton and her supporters to flaunt their
arrogance (or the appearance of such) because they are just as
twisted and manipulative as Trump.
than what they think they are exposing.
Oops.
That last line should have been cut out.
My apologies.
Not too bright, are you?
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
Here are the Wikileaks, you can see they are copied and pasted. But should we trust Wikileaks to get the entire speech?
Could Wikileaks edited the document?
Here’s your quote “It may be that Wikileaks and the authors of this article are being used
in a far more nefarious scheme which may have been deliberately
concocted by Clinton’s campaign.”
You’re saying that Clinton and her staff have successfully taken control of the Intercept’s reporters and Wikileaks itself.
Stop putting words in my mouth.
What I am saying is that it is highly suspicious that
a member of the Clinton team – Carrk – would take the time to
send out supposed “quotes” by Clinton which Clinton herself
has made clear that she has no intention of revealing.
The impression given –
that “excerpts” of PR concern are
going to be repeated when they are a concern to her team –
is suspiciously simplistic precisely because of the history of
e-mail embarrassments which surround and have infiltrated
the campaign.
When predatory liars like Clinton and Trump and their party
are made to look like they are victims
(which is how her supporters will see this)
it might actually be a source of more support for her
neocon agenda of less transparency and greater hostilities.
It is possible that we are being played.
“HistoricaIly the RepubIican party has been the party most aligned with WaII Street and The Financial industry. Today, however, that is no longer the case.”
— HiIlary CIinton, leaked by WikiIeaks October 7, 2016
————————————————————————————————————
She’s owned by WaIl $$treet, but to put it into perspective:
HiIlary $47,600,000 contributions
Trump $19,000
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hedge-fund-money-has-vastly-favored-clinton-over-trump-1469784601
This article left off Clinton’s repeated “dream” of an open borders nation, an EU like Western hemisphere. Nor does it mention her ultimate dream of loss of national sovereignty for globalization. Clinton is insane, and few people on the left or right would like what she wants to do this nation. Complete devaluation of the American workforce.
I LIKE TO KEEP THINGS SIMPLE SO HERE IS MY OPINION OF THE THINGS THE HRC ROBOT SAID ABOUT ALL THE SUBJECTS DISCUSSED IN THE ARTICLE; BS ON ALL SCORES!!
Not a mention of these Wikileaks releases on MSNBC’s Hardball, All In, Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell…not a mention
It is a shameful time in U.S. elections when our two main choices are between the proven, deadly and unrepentant war hawk HRC more than partially responsible for the dead, injured and displaced in Iraq (hundreds of thousands) as well as being the main architect of the disasters in Libya nd Syria where hundreds of thousands have died been injured and millions are refugees and Trump a misogynist and unpredictable. Not to mention that Bill Clinton another misogynist will be in the White House if HRC the psychopath (yes she fits the clinical definition) ends up in the Whtie House.
On top of that we have a main stream media that goes all ape shit over Trumps’s misogynist comments and actions yet are totally silent on Clinton’s horrific war record. Twisted priorities.
Shameful…just shameful and deadly for hundreds of thousands.
Trump is not a mysogynist. He historically places women on a high level. Some of his statements have falsely been labeled as mysogynistic. Rosie O’Donnel is horrific and we all have a right to call her all the labels she has been and is. Megan Kelly is wicked and was called out on it. Machado was violating her contract. Anyone who believes he is mysogynistic is hypersensitive, hyper feminist, hyper uninformed or hyper liberal. Or, all of the above. He is very predictable if one bothers to watch older reviews and current events. Consistent on most subjects, and has had second thoughts on some others, like all human beings.
It’s even worse on NBC. The news was half about the hurricane, and then a bit on the Trump tape, then a bit more hurricane, then a bit blaming Russia for hacking based on a few weeks of government investigation, then a bit on the alleged girl in Syria blaming Assad and the Russians for the suffering in East Aleppo (Her apartment looks pretty nice for a war zone. Then again, the “last hospital” in Aleppo has been destroyed about as many times as Al-Quaida’s number 2- if you believe their propaganda.), then a bit on the Nobel Peace laureate, then more hurricane. (Meanwhile, on Fox, this morning they spent a bunch of time focusing on Pence accusing the media of being on Clinton’s side, and not covering the hurricane.)
It is worth noting that NBC is home to Richard Engle, who, along with his producers, lied about his captors during his time in Syria. He said they were pro-government. They were pro-rebel. If not on the same level as the lies of Judith Miller, it was pretty close. Instead of firing him, he got a Peabody Award, (Of course, Miller’s still around- in fact, I saw her on Fox this morning!)
suddenly (in a fit of panic) the now LYING BARACK OBAMA signed a declaration that RUSSIA DID IT without presenting a single piece of evidence. Then the GD wallstreet media (msnbc/nbc) trott out a number of blank-faced monotone talking robots who insisted that russia did it without so much as offering a single piece of evidence and the same WMD PUSHING dummies are 100% sure that russia is doing all of it – hacking the lame good gor noting dnc computer operating system which must be a real piece of trash.
WMD garbage by a lying bunch of spoon fed propaganda junkies to con Americans so wallstreet can go back to robbing mainstreet. This is amazing.
Do women today think that all men are sissies, spineless and pathetic creatures? Your comments about Trump tell me that you know nothing at all about men. Boys will be boys, dear. It’s time for you to get a grip on the fact that women need to back off. As far as your comments about the Clinton’s are concerned, you only know the half of it. Who do you think is the major street drug distributor is in this nation?
Oh for fuck’s sake, calling Trump a misogynist is to simply speak the truth. Not all men are women-haters, and nothing Kathleen said indicates she knows “nothing at all about men.”
Trump is an unstable bigot across the board of race, gender and religion. He’s just gross.
Beware of the wrath of the moderator when speaking reality.
Misogyny is the male default position in varying degrees.Shhh…
And Trump hates women?Jesus some here are very unhinged,and they seem to hate men.
Big pharma,of course.
Misogynist? Anyone who doesnt quake in the presence of women these days is declared a misogynist. Have you heard the negative remarks made about men from Mrs Obama and Hillary? Of course–womens hearing is “one way”.
I would guess that the following presidents spoke privately, on more than one occasion, in a very similar manner to how Trump spoke… John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Gerald Ford, William J. Clinton and George W. Bush.
Gerald Ford or even George W. Bush? I very much doubt it.
I don’t know about Ford. You do know that W was a wild man back in his drinking years?
“I suppose if I win — my poon days are over.”
—JFK, fall 1960
See also “poon tang”.
Not to mention that at least one of those presidents was actually grabbing the p****, not just talking about it.
Bill Clinton told Queen Latifah on her television show a few years ago that if Hillary wins The White House that he will NOT live there. He said he would continue to live in Chappaqua and will run The Clinton Foundation with his daughter Chelsea.
This way he can stay out of the limelight, continue his dalliance with “The Energizer” (who conveniently lives just up the road from the Clinton’s) and he can travel with Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express and golf and give more speeches (which will probably rake in TWICE what they are now if his wife is President).
Huma Abedin will be living in The White House near Hillary, as it has been written in many articles that they are “attached at the hip”.
Now, with the SCANDALOUS revelation that Mr. Trump was making lewd comments about women over ten years ago with some guy named Bush that he can “grab any woman he wants in her pussy” (I guess he said “pussy”? Megyn Kelly tonight said it was the “P” word….maybe it was “Privates”?).
Trump has already come out and said it was all just “locker room guy to guy banter”.
Mr. Trump’s “bantering” , in my opinion, PALES in comparison to the corruption and criminality of Mrs. Clinton, especially considering all the innocent victims she has had a hand in MURDERING.
And now the revelations of what she said in some of her high-priced speeches where she believed us common folk (voters) would never hear word one about any of them. No wonder she refused to release them.
Bring on the debate Sunday! It should be a doozy!
jeffrey Epstein is in prison doing 200 years and just an FYI trump has a court date in federal court on Oct 14th, next week for raping a 13 year old girl belonging to the Epstein ring.. just thought you might want to know that Epstein is not going to be hanging out with Bill or his BFF Trump in this lifetime anyway…go read up on that rape case.. Trump has more rape allegations against him than Bill. did not think that was even humanely possible but Trump is so extra creepy!
First off, Jeffrey Epstein did 18months … not 200 years… so get your facts straight. Second, this is a civil case, not criminal that was filed against Trump. It was dismissed once in California. Then refiled again last month in NY because it’s getting close to the election and Hillary needs anything to help create distractions. It will ultimately be thrown out again, but uneducated and easily swayed Democrats who are already voting for Hillary anyway will find ‘red meat’ in a story that has absolutely zero substance to it. Those who are actually educated and follow politics (i.e., not you ), won’t take the bait so easily.
And Bill Clinton is the image of perfection? Grow up.
Bill: left DNA on a blue dress. Then lied about having a sexual affair.
Hillary got a rapist off for raping a 12 year old girl, blamed the attack on the girl for wanting sex with an older man.
Your thinking is a bit exclusive and not inclusive. You want to see only one side and not the other.
Hillary is creepy
I’m not in prison. I’ll be hiding in my mansion, surrounded by foreign teenaged girls.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-braces-book-release-article-1.2819009
And Weiner being her husband(divorce?) sure underlines the selectivity in revelations of actual sexual predators and deviants.
A bunch of serial liars,and serial screwups,our intrepid MSM,and websites like MW,TD,TO Alternet,Salon,Commondreams and the other Hell Bitch cheerleaders.
Look for more fund drives unanswered.
And don’t these retards realize that now they will be all recorded everywhere,and that they will rue this stupidity?
Actually it was on Hardball…Andrea Mitchell reported that she had just received the transcripts and hadn’t had time to go over them yet so miss all of us with the BS LIES!
*****BINGO*****
You are suffering from the Dunning- Kruger effect
So, what does Bernie Sanders have to say?
Bernie……?
Bernie……?
My best guess is “I’m with her.”
Poor Sanders supporters (which I am one of) he is in her camp deep now. No hope of pulling him out…..
Without Assange, there would be little understanding by the voters of Hillary’s nature, and no clue as to what she and those she is surrounded by are willing to do for her to win the office.
No matter how it goes in November, much information showing her lack of character is available.
The entire world owes him a great debt.
Hillary calls left a “bucket of losers”
In one speech to Goldman Sachs she said her analysts were predicting what emerged (as the Bernie Sanders movement). She told these bankster elites that her analysts refer to this left-wing cohort as “a bucket of losers” who have “low social capital.”
That’s it. For sure, I am not voting for that elitist bitch from hell.
This is fabricated since donald Trump is in a heap of trouble wiki leak and his sulphate decided to fabricate lie’s
She favors elitist, and her speeches were exposed. Bernie Sanders backed this claim months ago. Now how about a Donald Trump tax leak…
#Bring Back BERNIE!!!!!!
Bernie? You mean the sellout that endorsed Hillary? That unprincipled trouser-snake?
To Mark Jones, Sanders is a traitor, a coward and capitulator. His support and dedication to this vile person(Clinton) is disgusting. He is the personification not of what I once wrote of him” And the children swarmed to him like settlers and he became a land.” How defeating it now is to think how far in respect and dignity this turncoat as fallen.
I’m sure it was just a coincidence that a lifelong hardcore socialist politician bought his third home only a few weeks after conceding to Hillary. It’s good to see a politician that has long championed ‘income equality’ doing so well.
I can’t wait to hear Sen. Sanders response to this.
If he had any guts he would take back his endorsement of the wretch.
But you all know, I can pussy whenever I want. Really, intercept, are you now so dense, even Paul Ryan had to cancel his event with DJT, instead Pence is appearing. And I am sure pence will say DJT never said those things, despite it being on tape. Video and Voice. Why you hate Hillary Clinton is one thing, but even I cannot get my head around your support for DJT
That is such an absurd comment. So because they report on a completely valid and true story about Clinton they must be pro-donald trump. That is beyond idiotic
What? Where did tina say that what is in the report about the Hillary is untrue? And doesn’t tina have a point on how some high profile Republicans can still support DJT when their publicly declared stance on family values should prohibit them from doing so?
It’s political troglodytes like you who emerge from Hillary’s support base that are most disgusting to those on the right and on the fence. Any legitimate criticism of your preferred candidate is completely dismissed, because “look what Trump said in 2005″ (literally, in this case). You people have a conditioned inability to take some really damaging things (such as those mentioned in this article) about your candidate and let that reframe your viewpoint. That doesn’t necessarily mean changing your vote, it simply means not dismissing any dissenting viewpoint using lesser of two evils logic.
Clearly the core message of the Clinton campaign -that Trump is the second coming of Hitler- has been frighteningly effective on you. If you truly take this report as support for Donald Trump, you have been thoroughly brainwashed.
Sad!
Wow, just wow. You don’t have to be a flaming liberal to see Trump for who he truly is and that doesn’t have anything to do with who Hillary truly is or that many of the accusations against her are 100% valid.
Not a single writer here has come even close to expressing support for Donald Trump. Many have rejected him as unstable, vile, & many other pejorative but accurate things.
But many writers here also have contempt for Hillary Clinton. For good reason.
Whatever deplorable Trump said, Hillary’s husband did and he did a lot worse. And, don’t forget, Hillary was in charge of the cover up.
Anyways, it’s quite fascinating to hear Hillary, the wife of BJ Clinton, opine that someone like Trump should never be allowed to be the prez of the US.
Oh, all of you get over it. Trump hasn’t said anything deplorable and he isn’t mysogynistic. I am reading stuff here that implies you all place yourself on higher ground looking down your ultra hyper feminist noses. I know exactly what he has said, because I listened to every word. You all are full of it.
No, Bill has not said or done worse.
Ah, Okay. I stand corrected.
By the way, is this your public or your private view?
Are you for real Jcicone? What universe are you living in?
Mona’s certifiable.Trump for POTUS.
I bet Bush the elder laughed and called every victim of his CIA hit squads heads exploding a pussy gook f*ck.
And no, Gerry never visited locker rooms.
Jesus.
yeah and Oct 14th, Trump has a federal case in federal court for raping a 13 year old girl.. and he was accused by his 1st wife of raping her.. so yeah! he better think twice about attacking Bill’s past when the guy has a court date next week for raping one of Epstein;s 13 year old sex slaves.. Trump officially has more rape allegations than even Bill.. but cast that vote for him.. Is this “fascinating for you to hear ” too? I guess if you watch only Hannity and fox news you are not too informed huh???
Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit: When Is the Next Court Date? | Heavy.com
heavy.com/…/donald-trump-child-rape-sex-assault-federal-lawsuit-next-court-date-oct..
Donald Trump rape lawsuit ordered to move forward by federal judge, details released
Blasting News? – 14 hours ago
Federal Judge Orders Hearing in Donald Trump Rape Lawsuit
LawNewz? – 14 hours ago
… filed a lawsuit claiming that Trump raped her when she was 13 years old in the 1990s.
The case of @realDonaldTrump allegedly raping a 13-year-old girl will take on far greater importance, now. #uspoli
Lawsuit Charges Donald Trump with Raping a 13-Year-Old Girl …
http://www.snopes.com › News › Politics
The Time Donald Trump’s Ex-Wife Accused Him of Brutally Raping Her
gawker.com/the-time-donald-trumps-ex-wife-accused-him-of-brutally-17211.
Where do you get that they support trump???
Trump talks like a guy. Trump brags about the girls he does not get like a guy. trump is a guy. Bush betrayed a trust. Trump learned a lesson. Trump did not cause the deaths of folks in Lybia or Syria or any other nation.
@tina
i am/was a Bernie support.
but hillary is a back stabber, a right wing warmonger, and liar beyond reason
says one thing, does another
tina – you got a vision problem. Stop looking for a win and start looking for the truth.
do some research
explain this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTf0VKvXro
INDEPENDENT
Just a pet peeve, what is a “right wing warmonger”?
That’s a misnomer cultivated and nurtured by the Left.
Look at all the wars that America has been involved in. In almost every war, and certainly the bloodiest, it was the democrats who brought America into war.
WWI: Wilson – democrat (and most historians agree it was Wilson’s Treaty of Versailles that created Hitler and Nazi Germany.)
WWII: FDR – democrat
Truman – a democrat, dropped TWO atomic bombs on civilian cities. Remember, a democrat did that.
Korean War/Conflict: Truman – democrat
Vietnam: JFK – democrat.
Are you seeing a pattern yet?
Kosovo, Serbia, Albania are minor in comparison but were all Clinton – democrat, as was letting Bin Laden go free when the Saudis captured him.
I’ll be generous and disqualify all that (which includes Bin Laden) as I will also disqualify the missions to Panama and Granada and the Libya bombing (none of which were wars, and all much, much smaller scale that didn’t involve NATO or the UN).
So where are these “right wing warmongers” I keep hearing about.
Hmm. The Gulf/Afghan war I and II.
Started by Bush I – republican Finally!
Continued by Bush II – republican
And that’s it.
So, do you still really think right wingers are the real war mongers?
Spread the word. Stop the newspeak and indoctrination. Rightwingers are not war mongers. The Left is, but continue to speak the lie and make people believe it by repeating it enough. Just like they do about every other issue, race, sexism, helping the poor, education, everything. It’s all lies and newspeak.
The right are generally opposed to international intervention. If they can be accused of anything, it’s that they’re traditionally more isolationist.
Tina revealing the truth about someone who is standing for he highest level of public office is not about hating that person but allowing voters to know the truth before they vote. By your measure the Intercept must hate Trump too.
I am sorry for you but you have a choice – the Narcissist or the Psychopath, but wait aren’t there some other candidates? I know one of them isn’t aufait with the rest of the planet, but another is an intelligent woman without the baggage, narcissism or the psychopathic tendencies.
DJT talked dirty, no one died.
I’m surprised you didn’t try to claim TI was a Russian conspiracy, which is another standard INGSOC- I mean “Democratic Party” line of attack against anyone who disagrees with their Queen.
If anything, much of The Intercept probably leans third party, towards Jill Stein and perhaps Gary Johnson. It’s a consequence of immersing one’s self in facts.
So much for “Open and Honest Government” promised by Progressive Socialist Democrats back in ’07.
It’s a shame that politicians never, ever ever speak candidly to the American public, choosing instead to talk down to us like we are infants… Too stupid to grasp a bigger picture or understand complex issues. So instead, we get petty, 5th grade, he-said-she-said BS debates, goofy social “issues”, etc. to keep us divided and distracted from the SERIOUS choices they make that have a very real impact on our daily lives.
Republican, Democrat, foreign, domestic… It’s all the same. Global banks and powerbrokers are the true puppetmasters on this planet and we the people rarely if ever get any insight to the policy and positions that these people really operate with. Your vote means nothing and never has. To heck with all of them.
High five for whoever added “Finally” to the title.
I’m not turning on Mr Trump over his potty mouth, to allow Hillary to sell our country to the highest bidder as she eliminates our freedoms. Nope, don’t care!
Its still Trump! Because we get mike Pence down the road.
I’m with her!!!!
Next stop,ladies and gentlemen,Hades.
Listen to me AMERICA. We are screwed. Listen we are screwed. If you have any money throw it in the garbage if you have no money keep digging through the garbage. Over and out
*Clinton: As Senator, “I Represented And Worked With” So Many On Wall Street And “Did All I Could To Make Sure They Continued To Prosper”
But, as irredeemably deplorable Soviet tool Trump observed, she could murder a baby on live television and eat her heart and she would still be allowed to go home and enjoy whatever is left of her entitled, privileged, miserable life. Well… Trump didn’t say it with these words.
Im having an identity crisis..Am I in the bucket of losers category, or the basket of deplorables category…Someone help this ol boy out please…
Im having an identity crisis…Am I in the bucket of losers category, or the basket of deplorables category…Someone help this ol boy out please
Primary Colors, the movie is on Amazon Prime this week..A classic Mike Nichols-Elaine May satire.
Travolta’s exaggerated facial expressions next to Emma Thompson’s Hillary stink-eye expressions are fun to watch
I am a republican who is voting for Hillary after our party completely failed this year. I don’t see anything wrong with these statements. To me, it seems like radical conservatives grasping at straws. Don’t let pride or hatred steer how you vote this year. Pride is what failed our party- with our 200 candidates who refused to drop out of the primary. Ask yourself- why do you really hate this woman? Have you even given her a chance by reading her history or policies? Or have you just focused on her email like the media wanted you to?
I remember quite well her history of covering up for her husband’s multiple infidelities, blaming all the woman and the ‘right wing conspiracy ‘ theories. She would have been more respected if she walked out on that bum but she was looking out for her own career. She didn’t think much about the reputations of the other women involved. She has lied about and said anything to get herself to the position she is now in.
Ms.Viner;Let us count the ways how much we hate her,Nov.8.
caption of the picture with Hellary and Blank-notso-fein..
remember hillary, you work for me
lip-reading.
“Lloyd… you’re my bestest friend in the whole wide world and i’ll do anything for you. Anything. Head the TPP and rule the country?”
ah hah hah hah hah haaaaaaaaaaa
Oh Boy! The Criminal Clinton family is getting desperate and looking for any distractions away from classified emails and now the release of documents by Julian Assuage (Wikileaks) that illustrates how the Globalists stealing billions of dollars from foreign countries. Its World domination by Globalists as Nazi sympathizer as George Soros, who want us to be under thumb of the United Nations? Obama is trying to let the UN to claim our Internet, so we have no control. Regards to the stolen Donald Trump tape by the Washington Post, I personally don’t care? As an old soldier caught up in the Vietnam War zone and JUST BECAUSE I’M AN OLD SOLDIER, DOESN’T MEAN I AM A EUNUCH? I SEE THE FEMALE FORM & FOLLOW THROUGH WITH MY IMAGINATION BOTH SEXES DO?
So what Trump said, it is man talk in shower rooms. I don’t care what Trump says as men and women have sexual fantasies, as it’s only dangerous psycho’s like Bill Clinton who follow through with rapes and assaults on women; leaked tape means nothing to basket of “Deplorable” as me? Donald Trump hasn’t defiled his honesty, where as the Clinton Foundation cover-up for criminal enterprises, which is been complicit with the FBI James Comey, Justice Dept Loretta Lynch and the main perpetrator the state Department. How can you leave the White House broke and now end up with 200 million dollars? Its’ Laughable!!
Just to remember the US Border Patrol stated today that by the treasonous executive orders of President Obama, has SECRETLY blocked enforcement at the borders and sources have admitted that his intention is to allow million of illegal aliens to vote Intentional treason that ONLY US citizens have that right according to the US Constitution. It’s no wonder taxpayers are paying $113 Billion dollars a year for illegal immigrants, and will rise with Hillary Clinton as President admitting 550.000 Muslims with no means of support–just Taxpayers?
You are a bigot and I hope you go away.
Both the Clinton and Trump fanatics are gross — I can’t wait until November 8 has passed so you freaks are mostly gone.
Omg all these conspiracy theories…on both sides…and out right lies!! Are ANY of you even worried about how Trump has the Russians trying to influence the outcome of this election???!!! The proof of this is right in your faces!!! And yall are giving two people from Arkansas too much damn credit!! Really?? Clinton mafia?? That’s the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard!! U start believing this crap bcuz the media…esp fox news is the worst…is constantly repeating what they want u to believe!! In just gonna say this about the women Bill C supposedly raped…if they wanted real justice she wouldn’t have taken the fucking money..she would’ve wanted his ass in jail and she never would’ve signed affidavit saying he didn’t rape her!! And if me or you would have been Hillary we wouldn’t have been thinking that the women were damn victims either…u would have been mad at them bitches that was screwing our husband AS WELL AS BEING MAD AT HIS ASS!! Stop trying to make Hillary out to be a bitch for wanting the bitches out of the picture!! If u say u wouldn’t be passed at that woman too…U ARE A DAMN LIAR!! And when it comes to all the damn hacks by Asaunge and the Russians…why haven’t u stopped to ask yourself…WHY AREN’T THEY HACKING TRUMP OR THE COPs EMAILS OR PHONES?? Its bcuz they are helping Trump!!! All this shit is unreal!! 2 people from Arkansas…NOT THE ELITE…ARE NOT CONTROLLING ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT!! Open your eyes…shake the fog out of your head and pay attention people!!!
Fellow Citizen Reply
@ Mona:
Great comment!
Can you help me identify 50 or…45…40…5… prominent Israelis that say “apartheid,” so I can complete this thought:
The LORD said, “If I find fifty…45…40…5… righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
Plus when they spray us with their “we are anti-sematic BS” one can reply it is hardly anti-sematic to espouse what these prominent Jewish people espouse as moral and compassionate people.
Hillary Clinton and her “team” of deplorables KNEW that there would be a Wikileaks dump coming and I believe that they have had this Trump tape for months and purposely let it out the same exact day as the Wikileaks dump.
Sex sells waaayyy more than any “political” scandal.
They were hoping that the sexy Trump scandal would take the media’s eyes off the seedy and corrupt revelations that came out today against her.
Did you check out her face,all aglow about the Trump video?
The Cat that Ate the Canary.
Delusional deranged bubbleheaded pos arrogant evil creep.Phew.
Keep up the good work.
America First.nah nah nah nah nah.Shes a meanie.
A really good tweet
you know that the 1 percent did this election of purpose as a fu to Us?
Clinton said “So, you need both a public and a private position.” Kind of like she thinks marriage is between a man and a woman UNLESS speaking to a group of homosexuals THEN it is marriage between anyone is great and back and forth, back and forth.
Her problem is she has no private opinion on POLICIES because it may make someone upset. BUT when it comes to allowing Americans to be murdered she publicly blames a video and its maker but privately she told her family all about the murders.
When it comes to emails she clearly has two sets of positions. BUT any thinking person has known this about her for decades; too bad her sheeple could care less she lies to them for power.
Hillary will now try to act outraged over Trumps “locker room” discussion with Billy Bush over a decade ago about women. BUT SHE IS OK with HUSBAND BILL actually DOING what Trump was wishing. She will tell us how horrible Trump is but Hillary DESTROYED the WOMEN (NOT BILL) for what BILL did (that public private thing again…blame the women for Bill raping them…no wonder she loves muslim terrorists, this is like their sharia “law”). The fake outrage will play well to her sheeple only since they are too blind to see the hypocrisy…again.
One must have a “private and a public position”. That says it all; say what you mean to the big dogs with money and power in private and then lie to the people who will vote. Trump might be a pig but Hillary is a liar and a traitor.
What a sneaky hypocrite. A private and public position???? Doesn’t surprise me. Hillary is so tainted and corrupt and the coward liberal media have no integrity.
They saved up Trump’s nastiest talk for this, the worst leak on HRC. Let the games begin. May both of the “so called candidates” go up in flames. We deserve a lot better.
Liar, liar, sack of potatoes on fire.
LMAO! if it’s only EXCERPTS, then it’s nothing more than crooked Hellary trying to release bits and pieces for propaganda to mask her willingness to UNLEASH WALLSTREET ONTO AMERICA and SUBJUGATE THE SOVEREIGNTY of the US to her TPP, TPIP, TISA.
And by the way. Seeing as how the F…B…I… works for her, she would have the f…b…i… working for wallstreet a little more than before!
“nothing to see here, nothing to hear here, move along now”
Zechariah 14:12
“And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.”
Thermonuclear WAR..
The worst part of the Hillary “hack” is the absolute disregard for America’s future on the global stage show by Hussein Obama’s adminstration’s blane game with Russia. To assert that this “hack” comes from Russia is absurd. Snatching emails from a server – especially unprotected servers such as those used by Hillary and the DNC – is lightweight coding skills and can be done by any half way smart high school computer class graduate. Seriously – Russia? That’s like saying Hillary Clinton Killed the American Ambassador in Libya.
Further, those in power inside Russia do not care who the American President is for the next four years because their agenda is set and they will move forward knowing that they have the initiative in the world stage following Obama’s fear and trepidation to act in any meaningful way as a global leader.
Lastly these leaks have the very strong smell of “inside” not outside. Why? Because people with this information are paid to divulge it which means that if you wanna find the true source – and it is not Russia or Russian affiliated – then you will need to follow the money.
You all forget that she advocated for Universal Healthcare and it lost. So she is speaking from experience.
Another excellent piece of real investigative journalism. You folks set the standard. Stay safe!
And as we suspected all along, there’s no “there,” there. It’s funny to read the fevered posts by the usual cohort of anti-Hillary fanatics. Well girls, go suck an egg and pout in the corner. Maybe your friends Putin and Assange can crack a few more private email servers and publish a few “bombshells” to make your day – in your mind.
What a joke! She leads a “complicated” life??! Her life is as simple as it gets! She is a lying, conniving, traitor to this country. She is a crook who is so pathetically stupid she can’t even lie right.
Really have you ever been FLOTUS, Senator and SOS? And been attacked for 30 years? Husband had an affair? Are you that removed from reality that you can’t see that? We arent talking about a Kardashian you imbecile.
She made, you know $250k for every, you know, speech, but, you know, she resents pretending, you know, working for, you know that money because, you know, they world rather not also pay, expenses, you know, expenses or, you know, listen to her.
You know?
She is so, toast….lol
…” said Clinton. “So, you need both a public and a private position.” So in essence she is an advocate of lying, deception and falsehood…There it is, and that is all anyone needs to know to reject her if you possess even an ounce of morality. The answer of “She is the lesser of two evils” is just being complicit with evil…why would anyone support such an amoral being.
This is how democrats, liberals and globalists really are. These people cannot be trusted, at all. Their whole mindset is that of a cult, their logic is ultra flawed and they cling to this nonsense like zealots. When introduced to logic, they scream racist or islamaphobe or whatever they have at hand during that moment.
Do you really think that most people don’t have a public and private position on many topics? I am a teacher and there are many things I won’t say or do at school, not because they’re “evil,” just because they are private. Aren’t there things you say privately to your family that you wouldn’t say in public? She may have a private position on an issue, but her decisions reflect the needs/wants of the public or her party.
@katie is this the latest troll script for Hillary’s latest disaster? It is not a very good one.
Whether or not you or I have a private position is irrelevant as we are not running for president.
And stating her decisions reflect the needs/of the PUBLIC is histerical as her decisions only serve the needs/wants of climate deniers, war and fear mongering monsters, and the most amoral pinstriped mafia.
Lol, she just said what every politician, ever, has done without saying it…..
Fear of Trump or desire for power, that’s all I can think of.
Fear of Trump, in my case. I hate them both. I fear where an unpredictable thin-skinned bigot will take us marginally more than I fear the continuation of the status quo that is politicians accountable only to big money and perpetual war in the Middle East. And my heart wishes there was a truly viable third choice, but most people haven’t even heard of Stein.
Enjoy seeing your grandchildren die in a war with Russia then since Hillary has told a think tank she intends to go to war.
….with your money and your blood no doubt.
I don’t and can’t have children, much less grandchildren, but thank you for your concern.
The entire Republican agenda is scripted by Alec, Cato, Heritage etctc
It’s all been a pack of lies.Bread and circuses .Abortion is still the law of the land. There ?ere chances but now I think it’s moving away from them..Young women will not put up with such sexist nonsense
????Trumps agenda is Trumps,not the rethugs,who seem to view him very nervously.
He beat the Bush,Cheney,Romney,McCain losers handily.
He is a lifelong moderate businessman who has finally had enough of our leadership selling US down the river of globalization.
Hallelujah.
And the bastards in the MSM had better hope he doesn’t win,as the payback will be a bitch.And no one in America deserves it more.
Serial lying scum.
@ francis burton
Most disgustingly try and get through a day when National Public Radio does not interview someone from the likes of CATO and The Heritage Foundation making it Public Radio to brainwash the public in amoral service to the climate change deniers, fear mongering, warmongering, and financial pinstriped mafia.
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives”
Clinton equates corruption with success and feels entitled to both. No wonder she overcharges the Secret Service for rental space in her building (so much that it covers the entire loan payment).
The MSM appears more interested in an audio tape from 2005 in which Herr Drumpfuck brags about what sounds very much like sexual assault.
Also, USG seems to be fully on board with the Kampaign Killary, in an effort which will almost certainly put the substance of the speech and email revelations in the shade:
The key word in the quote is “believe”, i.e., the acceptance of a proposition based upon faith alone, not requiring any supporting empirical evidence. One of the characteristics of the Obama administration, like that of its predecessor, is the conviction that if you believe strongly enough in something, it will become true.
“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.”
Yes, the neocons infest both parties.
Neocon = Neolib. The line of political philosophies closes upon itself. Back in the early days of the Cold War – late ’50s, early 60’s there was some discussion about how at its extremes the fascism practiced by Hitler and Mussolini became indistinguishable from the state socialism practiced by Stalin. This is the modern equivalent, and no less horrifying.
When people like Clinton talk about free trade and open borders, they are not talking about ordinary people being free to cross borders without having to show their passport or bringing a bit of sausage from Germany or cheese from France back into the US from their trip abroad. What they are talking about is freeing international corporations from the obligation to obey local laws, and from consequences of their exploitation of workers, natural resources, and the environment. Thus the words “Free Trade” are ambiguous, and simple expressions of support or opposition can be construed however the speaker wishes.
Clinton, Obama and the Democrats are trying the best they can to antagonize Russia into a nuclear war. The American people are not aware of how close we probably are to that. Accusing Putin of this is another way they’re trying to start this. Putin is frustrated that the media won’t let the American people know what the Democrats are up to. They just had a drill to get millions of Russians into shelters to get ready for an attack by our government within the last few days. How stupid are we?
“Sexual assault”??!!
Sounds more like classic methods of seduction to me!!!
Trump says, “I see a beautiful woman and I just want to kiss her!”
Yeah! Trump and every other red-blooded American male!
Give. Me. A. Break.
Especially now that the Mellennials are busy amusing themselves with Tinder on their “off nights” for a quickie.
If Hillary Clinton thinks the “youth” vote of the United States will be “put off” with this latest Trump “scandal” from over ten years ago, I think she and her team are going to be in for a rude awakening on November 8th.
Hysterical hyperbole and anti German slurs.
Nobody is perfect.
And neither is Donald,and I’m sure he would admit,unlike some here.
If Donald can beat these goddamn criminals
I’ll celebrate like its the second 4th of July.
I guess you are one of those weird males with an aversion to pussies.
Her honne-tatemae is showing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honne_and_tatemae
Yes, one of the least attractive aspects of the Japanese culture. Leading to the inability to admit wrong doing, as in their behavior leading up to and during World War 2. A trait they seem to share with most Americuns.
Uh,America wouldn’t let Japan have its own sphere of influence(Tojo Doctrine),as we think we own the world.We cut off their lifeblood oil supply.What did they think would happen?What did.
The MSM is not liberal in any sense of the term,as freedom is only good for them,to lie to US repeatedly.
They are all Zionists,from NYts to Wapo,to TD,to TO to Salon and every other traitor serial lying outlet.
I’ll take a guy who tells crude jokes any time over a woman whose every breath brings forth a lie. She will say anything to anyone for any reason and whether it is true or not she cares not a wit. Will anyone be surprised – I doubt it but the things coming out now and those sure to come out later will be greatly embarrassing to her personally, her legacy and the Democratic party in general.
In case nobody realizes this, these are only the first things being noticed out of 2000 emails (out of 50000 to be release this week). The juicy stuff will come out tomorrow like the DNC emails did in July.
Just give me one thing
That I can hold on to
To believe in this livin’
Is just a hard way to go
The regressive stance of having only two positions may cost Mrs. Clinton the election. Mr. Trump has at least a dozen positions on every issue, which helps to broaden his appeal. Since every statement he makes contradicts some other statement he has made, it is very difficult to put together a coherent argument attacking his position.
Mrs. Clinton’s stance is more old school, while Mr. Trump’s is more suited to the world of social media. Mt. Trump may ultimately lose this election, but he will be the model copied by future politicians.
Brilliant! But her clumsiness in making that statement shows that she is not in instinctive politician. Can you imagine her husband ever saying that aloud?
I am quite certain that Bill is far closer to Trump in how he speaks about women. Let’s face it he was accused of rape and many women complained that he wouldn’t take no for an answer. Hillary set out to destroy these women. She called those “bimbo eruptions”!
I am STILL waiting for Her Royal Highness to walk out to the podium for a full-throttled press conference for 45 minutes where she will have to face a torrent of extremely uncomfortable questions she has not been given in advance.
She SHOULD have such a press conference prior to the election, but I doubt she has the guts (or stamina!) to do so.
Perhaps the questions for this Sunday’s “debate” are being re-written right now to include the leaks from today.
I hope so.
Trump do Kama Sutra!
Listen to the unedited speech in context. Good grief. At least she didn’t talk about grabbing pussy like Trump did.
Have you actually listened to the unedited speech? It’s very obvious why she didn’t want these to surface. Her public image is campaigning against her private self.
Public …then private conversation???? The most transparent blah…blah…blah…?? The Liar (big suprise once again) is caught….
I just came on line having only minutes ago learned via Gwen Ifel’s Washington Week program on PBS that Wikileaks had obtained and released some documents. I turned the TV off in disgust because the focus of the discussion was not on the substance of the leaks but rather on the speculation that it was “Russian actors”, Putin being mentioned by name, that were responsible for the leak, and how reprehensible that is. Reprehensible, indeed, but not for the reason the idiots of PBM maintain, but rather because we have to rely on hacked e-mails to find out what should rightly be in the public domain.
If it is indeed the Russians who are responsible for the many leaks about the Clinton campaign, then they have my heartfelt thanks, and should have the gratitude of anyone in this country who cares about its future. It is utterly shameful that the US is a land where one needs to turn to foreign sources for the truth. Not that this situation has developed over night; it has been this way since at least 2001.
So here’s the problem now. The left leaning media now has the perfect excuse for ignoring this story with the treasure trove of Trump related video and audio that will be leaked between now and Nov. Hand wring all you want, but at this point its time to get ready for Pres. Clinton 2.0… This is exactly why long time Republicans were crapping their collective pants when he won the Primary.
Sadly, the forces of evil have been taking over some of the foreign sources. Look at how the Guardian used to be. The BBC knuckled under after the Hutton whitewash.
Of course the normal IDIOT HRC supporter does not have a clue what this means. That other idiot Jullian Assange should have released this at 3 AM when he had a few million people awake listening to him try to sell his book. What a $hit show. And you know what, I love beautiful women too! Vote Trump.
Disgues refuses to put outl comments that are against Hillery. They want three times as many paid Hillery troll comments as Trump comments to make it appear she is winning. Corruption at its finest.
Wow, Sean Hannity and Vlad Putin’s lackey, Julian Assange is at it again. And does the Intercept make any mention of Clinton’s constitutional rights being violated or relate this to Nixon’s Watergate break in? Hell no. This isn’t the NSA, this is hating on Hill time, and so all laws go out the window… No, she didn’t say she was out of touch, she said she’d never forgotten her roots. To spin this is just more sickness…
“Hey, Jimmy, see Mona’s comment below…..Dude, get a life!
Jimmy, allow me to inform you that among the very few things for which this site bans people is this: crapflooding. You are on the precipice. I suggest you rein in the volume of new, stand-alone posts.
Jimmy, you can ask that question right after you ask the NYT the same thing. Now run along princess your 10 seconds of fame has come and gone.
Those capitalized headers were in the email itself you dummy. The research director of the Clinton campaign wrote those comments. Work on your reading comprehension skills before you ever comment on a topic again.
I wonder how many times a day you freak out over something you haven’t even read correctly.
I bet you didn’t bat an eye when the new york times illegally released trump’s 20 year old tax records. I’m even more willing to bet you were unphased by the fact that it only showed he did exactly what Hillary has done.
let me guess, you care about Trump’s Constitutional rights being violated by having his tax returns leaked and illegal recordings being made… Yeah, that is what I thought hypocrite.
Tax returns were leaked. Emails were stolen. Big difference, Einstein.
Who cares. She is still 10 x the candidate trump is. At least she usnt a disgusting ANIMAL. PIG
You obviously care or you wouldn’t be posting.
Thank you, comrade, for your yeoman work. “Hating on Hill time”
–I especially like that one. All these nasty leftists here! You should have told them to “not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.” Stops ’em every time!
Where is the proof that this hack was from the Russian government? So far no one seems to be able to provide any. If you can point to proof and not just allegations from those who are looking to start a war with Russia, that would help. Though I imagine that you will not be able to show any credible proof since even the feds have been unable as of yet.
It’s not Assange’s fault that Clinton not only has terrible internet security but is also a favorite target of hackers, that would be her fault. Nor is it his fault that she is a terrible person, obvious liar, and should that she should be convicted of war crimes. Assange is a publisher, not the hacker.
Oh and this could easily be someone from the NSA who hacked and leaked her emails. They have access to everyone, not just us little people.
The constitution protects Mrs. Clinton, but only against the US government. Many people do not realize the Constitution is a restriction on US government powers and does not constrain Russia. Apparently, Russia has no scruples which prevent it from spying on foreign government leaders. The US has no such scruples either, but at least it has the good taste not to expose those leaders’ perniciousness and double dealings to their subjects. They understand this is a slippery slope which would quickly lead to all governments being discredited. Mr. Putin’s secrets are safe with the NSA.
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not. The US has been more than willing to reveal damaging things of foreign officials and nations- at least they used to be. Back in the 1980’s, we used NSA intercepts to show the Soviets shot down KAL 007- and even then, they were edited. Now, we have to rely on fly-by-night photo editors who have been debunked numerous times or on mysterious notebooks with no chain of custody to allege fraud against politicians foreign and domestic.
Of course, on a personal note, a lot of people think I’m sarcastic when I am being dead serious.
James….
Do you remember when you pinkos loved Assange and Wikileaks when they were exposing the Bush Crime Family’s war crimes….Short memory? Like most commies.
Hey jimmy,
Thanks for taking time out from Hell’s campaign to voice out your concerns here.
help me out here.
About that spin.
IN CRIME BOSS LINGO –
“I mean, a dead man can’t leak stuff,” Beckel chillingly noted of Assange. “The guy’s a traitor, a treasonist, and … and he has broken every law in the United States. The guy ought to be — and I’m not for the death penalty — so, if I’m not for the death penalty, there’s only one way to do it, illegally shoot the son of a bitch.”
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/illegally-clinton-assange-assassinate/
Why would Hellary indicate to her staff that she wants Julain Assange droned, snipered, poisined, murdered or dead?
thanks in advance jimmy
have a great day.
I thought it was pretty funny the way the FEC released all the names of those working for “Correct the Record”:
https://beta.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&disbursement_purpose_categories=other&committee_id=C00578997&min_date=01%2F01%2F2015&max_date=08%2F05%2F2016
Shut your pie hole. The truth only hurts people like you and Hillary when it get aired.
“Jimmy” is a Revise the Record, paid Hillary Clinton troll
The LA Times, among many others, exposed the Super Pac spending $1 million to pay trolls to argue pro-Clinton talking points online. This site has had at least two: “Jimmy” and “Karen.” They recite from the same script.
Mirabile dictu, come November 8 their checks end, and thus so should they.
Wikileaks exposed the Clinton campaign pays people to post pro Hillery comments online and also pays people to go to her small rallies. Does that sound like a woman who is actually winning? NO. She can’t get fifty people to show up. She needs all the corrupt medias help she can get.
You’re a liar but you’ve brought much joy into my world. You know nothing about me. Nothing. You’re just as full of bull as Julian Assange, Sean Hannity, Vlad Putin and Donald Trump. You’re most certainly just another white trust fund baby, just like Trump, only you pretend you got a law degree after raising your white kids in poverty in America. BOOO HOOO! The struggle of the working class trust funder! Laughing my butt off at you, Mona, your complete, narcissistic bull crap has brought my wife and I great joy and hilarity. Thank you!
Someone was dumb enough to marry you? Poor thing…
Mona, you should know that it is unproductive to engage Jimmy. Any thoughtful reader of these posts already knows that Jimmy can be counted upon to be 180 degrees out of phase with reality.
You do not understand; I don’t post to “engage” Jimmy. My comment is for the benefit of other readers. He’s a paid hack from Revise the Record.
The Clintonites deserve much mockery for needing to hire people to defend the Queen online — they don’t have enough people who will do so out of passion, as Bernie did.
I adore rubbing their noses in it and alerting any who still may not know of this hilarious project.
Engage, shmengage. My point is that some posts are better off ignored. I’m confident that most have figured Jimmy out. The ones who haven’t also believe Benito to be a fascist.
Meh, as long as it stays in one or two sub-threads, “Jimmy” and “Karen” can be fun to taunt and show everyone what these hacks do. They are so goddam stupid, and spew the exact same talking points over and over.
Look at this way: We are costing the Hillary PAC $$ every time we goad the idjits into replying and spending one more second here.
Are you sure he’s not a volunteer? I mean, if they were going to actually pay someone to do that, wouldn’t they insist on some degree of competence? Oh, strike that. I forgot: we are talking about the democrats who, like their fellow Party brethren the republicans, regard competence as strictly optional.
Thank you Mona for exposing the hired hack. Any chance he used to work for the CHI PD.
Nah, he’s not subtle enough for the Chicago cops.
the other paid troll must be his wife..You brought them great joy and hillarity.!!
Anyone who needs to know what kind of evil person Hillery is just needs to know about the threats on Assange’s life for releasing the emails and what happened to her lawyer who was thrown onto railroad tracks. Hillery said they needed to drone the place Assange was staying at. Whether she was joking as she said is questionable. This is a dangerous woman who has no business being anywhere near power over the public. She is toxic and extremely dangerous.
Thank you for this article. Well done.
And I’m hoping that whatever the shortfalls or the glitches have been, which in a big piece of legislation you’re going to have, those will be remedied and we can really take a hard look at what’s succeeding, fix what isn’t, and keep moving forward to get to affordable universal healthcare coverage like you have here in Canada. [Clinton Speech For tinePublic – Saskatoon, CA, 1/21/15]
And then she said it would “never, ever happen.” She says whatever the group in front of her wants to hear, so there’s no way to ever know what she really supports.
“Clinton Cited President Johnson’s Success In Establishing Medicare And Medicaid And Said She Wanted To See The U.S. Have Universal Health Care Like In Canada.* “
Oh, look! Correct the Record is here.
Tame stuff? Well, I guess making statements like the following could be considered tame.
It may even be SOP. But it is also unutterably shameful and fully fucking disgusting — and ought to disqualify the speaker from from holding public office.
Is it, though? I’m a Johnson voter, can’t stand the witch, but is she actually holding positions that are 180 degrees from each other, or is she saying that the stated public position is less simply nuanced than the complete policy proposal?
Hey kids…Disqus Is letting Hillary’s hackers take this comment down. They are terrified.
~….and americans have been fed the mythical version of paranoid delusions and conspiracies for so long they laugh at the real thing right under their noses…..they are looking at fakes and liars who commit crimes right in front of them and they turn the other way. For the first time in history, Americans will choose between a Criminal and a legitimate candidate. she is a liar, a traitor, a criminal, an accessory to murder, an enabler of her husband’s continued abuse of women and now, one of the walking dead. If you vote for her you are as bad as she is. This election will determine the moral, spiritual, psychological, and emotional fate of our country..
let history show that no matter what real people thought or feared or became angry about, it didn’t matter because the Information Midas, with his cronies, simply erased them.~
I have chopped her quotes up and places them on Facebook, even her own site.
Hey kids, Disques is taking down my comments too. They don’t want the truth to come out about Hillery. Do they support a woman who said that Assanges place should be droned or that Assange’s attorney was thrown on the railroad tracks by someone? Assange has had his life threatened. The globalist owned people are doing all they can to take control of the world and Lord it over everyone. The populace is rejecting them. Disques are you a globalist owned entity?
A bit melodramatic, but basically right. Political leaders here have always been out of touch, living in their own bubble. These evil sociopaths infect so many areas of life, destroying everything they touch. Power, money and self-interest is their only game. Sadly the clown Trump is likely the safer bet over the Clinton mafia. Either way, the US is doomed.
I agree, the saddest thing about tge election is that she has a huge corrupted political machine using our money to rig the voting and Obama is sending in people frim the U.N. to tghe Polling Precints to make sure tgeir plan goes down without a hitch. Hell, Obama’s innoffice due to tge same fraud that refused to accept hundreds of thousands of votes from military service men & women serving overseas, the held up the plane, not mention thugs standing outside frint doirs of dome places threatening people. We need thousands of folks willing to do exit polls and find the true votes and have it all on video!
Best post ever. Precise and so true
Thanks for producing this article. It is clear that NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc won’t.
Nothing we didn’t already know. Hillary is a pro-trade, pro-war, pro-banking, neocon. At least she will have a harder time lying about it with the evidence of her own words right in front of her
Such an evil and corrupt woman. She should be in prison now, but due to political connections, has escaped justice.
Hillary=Evil
Trump= Crazy
Johnson= Inept
America is screwed!!
#drudge
#silentmajority
SO in other words, really nothing.
So far, this is quite tame stuff. Either the former SoS is so out of touch that she has no idea how people would think, or this is a release to dull the senses; the good stuff is coming.
I read all but the last two paragraphs, which I will finish, but nary a twitch or shudder.
What I take exception to most strenuously, is use of the word “forth,” as to come forth with a proposition. Who says “forth” except in court proceeding or legislative/legal documents? Ms Clinton is neither practicing law nor politics.
Many millions of English speakers. For example, I do.
It’s just one of those words, like “folks,” that irks me.
Doug Salzmann, as a religious agnostic, I prayed every weekend while the primary was ongoing, that someone would release the transcripts.
Having read every word, I still think they are tame, but it’s not as if I don’t find her deceit offensive. Not only that, you know, based on these speeches, she’s not a dynamic or particularly interesting speaker, you know.
From Politico, starting where Hillary excited the banks with some “tough” rhetoric:
“Down on Wall Street they don’t believe it for a minute. While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industry—among them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of America—consider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, she’s someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.
And essentially, no matter what she says, they will not abandon her. 2014.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/why-wall-street-loves-hillary-112782
It’s OK. I use lots of words that annoy people. ;^)
They certainly won’t. And, no matter what she says, she won’t abandon them.
You have to have both a private and a public position, dontcha know?
Don’t forget where these emails came from – Putin and crowd. It’s not difficult to alter or even forge an email in ways that can’t be discovered without access to the original email. Don’t forget who Putin wants in office. Assuming that these emails were never tampered with is the height of folly.
Ooo, invoke the boogy man.
Distract from the content.
I doubt Putin had anything to do with this, but keep your dreams and fantasies alive.
There is no substantiated evidence about who Putin wants in office. Though past business deals would indicate Clinton:
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/08/dems-tactic-of-accusing-adversaries-of-kremlin-ties-and-russia-sympathies-has-long-history-in-us/
You have no idea who got these emails
The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! Lol, Politicians have been using that one for decades!
Can you cite any actual evidence, or do you just uncritically accept what your political masters tell you?
The Revise the Record operatives are getting more desperate and ridiculous with their Red Baiting 2.0 every day.
I think Hillary has made the comment that “Democratic-party voters are stupid.” Northern Invader would lead you to believe she is right. Either way, the democratic party and it’s coalition in the Black, Hispanic, and other communist front groups intent on bringing the US to it’s knees. We’ll see how the Invader likes it when that day comes. Let me suggest you look up Yuri Beznemov on YT.
GOD how can you BE so fucking stupid and continue living. Aside from the brain-dead (assuming a brain was the organ used) assertion that equates “black, Hispanic” with “communist”, even more pathetically unaware is the assumption/belief/waking-drooling state of semi consciousness , that communists are for “Hill”.. Communists FUCKING HATE HILLARY CLINTON. Flush the diarrhea out of your wormy skull and replace it with at least one rational concept : Hillary Clinton is a capitalist hell bitch..She is ANTI COMMUNIST fuckwit.. her liberal ideology , her entire career, her thoughts and actions, her entire being are of the freemarket right-wing of the political universe Communists are the enemies of her blood.
I’m not saying whose right, but you lost your argument. You ask for “actual evidence” of “Putin and crowd” being involved then in the next line make an unproven statement yourself. Your hypocrisy has not gone unnoticed. This may come as shock to, but your opinion is just that an opinion and everyone knows opinion are like assholes, everyone has one. So, let me see if I understand you correctly, someone has an opinion that differs from yours and that automaticalluly means they are a paid operative? To quote you, “Can you cite any actual evidence, or do you just uncritically accept what your political masters tell you?”
post hoc ergo propter hoc…
Putin wants Trump in office? First I’ve heard other than when Hillary ignorantly blurted it out in one of her private jet press talks.. Confirmed, that kind of news would be a big deal given how much we’ve accused them of meddling in our digital affairs. In fact, the last time Fareed Zakaria egged Putin on about his opinion of Trump, Putin nearly castrated Zakaria in front of a spectating crowd. Putin’s not a fan of Trump. He’s not a fan of Obama (or Hillary and her insulting ‘reset’). He’s not really a fan of any Americans right now, in case you haven’t heard the nuclear-laced dialogue, lately…
It’s hilarious when a Hillary supporter regurgitates the ‘Russian theory’ pablum. Even if that were true, which it is not, nor do you have evidence to prove it is, it would not, in any way, change the CONTENTS of the emails. Perhaps you’ve forgotten the five DNC heads that rolled after the last Wikileak?
This is Wikileaks – which for ten years has released 100% “pristine” (aka LEGIT) documentation that many courts around the world have accepted as evidence.
Notice how the Clinton team never attacked or dismissed the content of the emails, just the person who revealed them (Assange) and their opponent (Trump)
I’ve never heard of Wikileaks leaking anything that wasn’t authentic. Not once.
Indeed. I’m pretty sure it simply hasn’t happened.
It hasn’t happened. One of those heinous private natsec firms proposed to trick Wikileaks into publishing bogus documents — because they need for the reputation to fall.(I believe it was Anonymous who hacked their system and found the proposal, among other things.)
It. Has. Never. Happened.
are you crazy. you sound like what hillary would call a vast wing consiratist
What are you saying exactly?
You think that these are particularly damaging? That they were made more so by the Evil Russian Empire? Get a grip. Has the Clinton camp denied their authenticity?
Anything to back that claim other than conjecture and hearsay?
Does your know you’re hanging around adult strangers?
Actually the height of folly is making an assumation at all. Hasn’t anyone taught you that assuming makes an ass out of you and me.
Hillary should have released the transcripts herself a long time ago, as well as those emails. Then we wouldn’t be discussing this.
The media will bury this – won’t see the light of day… e.g. if a tree falls in the forest but no one is around to hear it…..
But trump said mean things though
“Public vs. Private Position” is exactly why Clinton’s trust ratings are so low. It exemplifies the duplicitousness of her nature like a marker in her political DNA. Basically she believes a politician should say what is needed in public, but act according to what they really believe in private. Why would you trust anyone who adhered to such a concept?
CLINTON (CIA) Company limited hang-out !
CIA = Criminals In Action…
Good work. Yes Clinton talks out both sides of her mouth.
Where the money is will be where you will find her.
Saudi, Syria, Haiti sucking money into her hands and away from those it was intended.
It seems that what was said in the speeches was important, but it doesn’t seem to have raised the same level of frenzy among the media as Trump’s income tax returns have. If the news media such as the New York Times would withhold their endorsement for Hillary Clinton, since her financial policies as outlined to the financial institutions, are unknown, and she is hiding them from review, then maybe she would actually release the contents of her speeches to the financial institutions.
Were the financial institutions just paying big money for Hillary to talk to them, to gain access to the White House after she became president?
It was no secret that she was going to run for the presidency.
So it appears that substantive issues such as financial policy are being swept under the rug by a media which is instead focusing on personality issues and trying to disparage Trump and the
republicans by finding some old ten or twenty year old comments made by Trump about someone’s sexuality or about being fat “Miss Piggy”, you name it or some locker room conversation he might of had.
Then the news papers complain about lack of access to the presidency-no press conferences for months and months, or lack of a coherent financial policy, or prosecuting someone because they have divulged some insider information to the news media.
Hopefully, our constitutional republic will survive a little longer, but it probably won’t be due to the vigorous news reporting by the news media.
It turns out that items the news papers once would have published are now coming to the public’s attention through entities such as “Wikileaks”.
Even this afternoon, comments that Trump made in 2005 about women are surfacing.
These speeches are current and show how deceitful Hillary Clinton is. But the mainstream media won’t tell both sides.
This is why America is going to fail with Hillary Clinton as President. We’ll all be brown shirts in 20 years at the rate things are going. Erase history and hide the truth. Thanks Democrats.
It’s important that we review wiki-leaks content ourselves, as you point out, why these financial institutions are paying Hilary Clinton is left undisclosed in this article!
Trump has to knock it out of the park Sunday! Simple strategy! the DNC / Media want to talk about petty crap from many years ago, I want to talk about the REAL issues of the American people! Open borders, wages stagnant for a generation! cannot even get parts for planes in the Air Force, highest corporate taxes in the world, I mean we could go on and on! Trump needs to break through to the American pas the din of all this high school petty non sense!!!
Anti-racists say there is a RACE problem that can only be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and “assimilates.”
What if I said there was a RACE problem that could only be solved if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country? How long before people realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem, but the conclusion to the BLACK problem?
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-White.
“Pro-white ” is a (not too subtle [cough!]) code word for RACIST.
Gert, you’re just a genocidal monster.
So, Gertrude….by your definition, BLM, NAACP, NOI, BET, Black University’s, Affirmitive Action, and cities being required to give x-amount of contracts to a black business are ‘RACIST’, as well. We’ll call it even.
Pro-White is a code word for RACIST.
Pro-Black is a code word for RACIST.
The upside-down world of the bigot, where racists and xenophobes are the real victims, being persecuted by the objects of their hatred.
OK I give!
SO WHAT? First, this could just be Assange / Russian intelligence. How do we know it’s true?
As true as the Guccifer” release earlier this week” LOL
And even if it is, so FREAKIN WHAT?
Are you children? FU Assange! Russian spy!
Somehow it took four writers to hack out this article.
Is anyone truly surprised that that the Clintons are anything more than policy flip-floppers?
They will do and say whatever to get elected.
Grifters never had it so gooooood.
Corrupt to the core.
Trump may use mean words, but he will never be as bad as the hillbilly mafia
“There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives”
lol it’s hard out there for a plutocrat
Whaaaaat??? Hillary says one thing in public and another in private??? I’m shocked! Shocked I say!
/sarc
Hillary’s first position is ALWAYS the lie… then blame someone else, then claim the accusation is old news.
I took the “small fortune” exchange to mean that going to Washington with a large fortune will leave you with a small fortune after you’ve had to divest. Not that you would go to Washington to make a small fortune from scratch. If this is so, your quote seems misleading.
So THAT’S why Clinton won’t release the speeches she got paid a quarter million dollars for. She’s a liar and a fraud. Tell the grubers what they want to hear and then after the election do what Wall Street wants. What a surprise.
She has two faces, and they both lie.
The truest predictor of her future behaviour is her well established tendency to comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted.
LOL! Like Janus!
Like! x 1,000,000,000-fold… :)
Thank you for releasing this info. It should b made very public
Hillary said it would “never, ever” happen as a matter of ASSESSING the political CLIMATE. Nothing in that source makes any suggestion she doesn’t WANT to pass it. This is simply a determination on her part to keep what progress has been made.
Her assessment is wrong because some variation of single payer is the only way that we will ever control health care costs in this country.
Tell that to the NHS…
You mean like the VA? Is that what you are hoping for? A 600+ day wait to see a Dr.?
We HAVE single payer for veterans and it is a deadly fail.
Absolutely, D.J.
I used the VA health care for a very brief period when I left the military in 2014. I had no intention of using them as anything more than a short-term, stop gap solution for health care until I found private insurance through my employer.
People do not understand how bad the VA healthcare system is, and now they want ACA and single payer. NO THANKS.
The VA is not single payer; try to keep up. It’s a form of government provided healthcare. That’s not what single payer means.
It’s not?
The who is the ‘single payer’ in your fantasy?
Dj the VA is not single payer it is Socialized medicine.
Four things that make the VA different than single payer.
1. Patient can’t pick their doctor
2. Doctor can’t pick which hospital of facility to use
3. Hospital/facility can’t pick procedures
4. Patient has no legal redress
We HAVE single payer for veterans and it is a deadly fail.
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single-payer-faq#walter_reed
Note to readers: The first sentence of my previous comment was supposed to be block quoted. It was a totally incorrect, fact-free quote from a commenter calling him or herself”Dj.”
Never fear.. no one is reading your propaganda…
LOL yeah… You get GREAT scores when you have a secret waiting list and a public waiting list… Kinda like Hillary’s positions on everything. Have you NOT been paying attention?
The VA keeps you on the secret list until there is an opening (600 days later) then they put you on the public list and VOILA you have great scores.
What total BS you are spouting here. This wonderful VA health system you are so in love with causes Vets to commit suicide, or die while waiting for care. You are in good company Kitt, Obama agrees with you. Both of you are idiots.
Do you really not understand what a block quote is? And do you really not understand what the blue lettering is? The blue lettering is a link. The link is where the quote came from. And the quote came from “20,000 physicians medical students and health professionals,” not me.
And Obama doesn’t “agree with” me. Obama fought hard and dirty to make certain that Single Payer had no chance of coming into existence in the United States while he was in the Oval Office.
As a Registered Nurse who has worked in the health care field for over 40 years my position is that ALL Americans should be in the SAME health care system, including veterans.
Why segregate the veterans in their own “hospitals” and “clinics” and “rehabs”?
It would be healthy if we ALL went to the same hospitals according to where we live.
Imagine a young guy who was injured in a construction site accident laying in a bed in a semi-private room after surgery with a room mate who just got out of surgery after an amputation etc. from a wound received in Iraq or Syria or Libya?
The conversations alone would be invigorating, and hopefully fighting for a high standard of health care for ALL would also be very worthwhile.
Americans, especially when they are sick/injured/recuperating would be well off to room with injured soldiers.
EVERYBODY IN, NOBODY OUT. Including Veterans.
Ditch the “V.A.”.
The link I posted is about Single Payer for all. The excerpt was VA specific because that is what “Dj” posted BS about.
So veterans are obligated to go through the VA and are forbidden from seeing any other private or public medical provider?
I’ve been using the VA System in Omaha Ne. for going on 14 years and the service has always been timely and First Class Professional. I have never met a Vet at this Hospital that felt differently so I have no idea how You can make this commment without citing specific cases. The only problem with the system is when the Politicians start playing Politics and try to turn the system over to the Private sector. After all, it is Them that have the obligation of funding the needs of the Vet’s. They are the ones Who fail the Veterans, not the hard working Professionals that deliver the services.
Wrong, eliminate the middle man (insurance companies) and let the market work.
Of course,as healthcare for profit is intrinsically going to take some of the cream off the top which is blood money,but hey,whats a little blood between friends.
It stared in the 80s,this privatization of HC,and its been downhill since.
Of course Hillary’s colleagues in the house and senate, and she herself, have been enjoying single payer, on the backs and wallets of the US public, for decades, some of the most rabidly anti-single payer congressional parasites being the most vocal in immediately demanding their healthcare benefits. She believes regular people should just “never never” get it. Because, after all, what have the American people ever done for America, for which they should derive benefits…
Fear of Trump or desire for power, that’s all I can think of. http://citizenpaper.co.uk/
“Wanting” something is meaningless if you believe it can “never, ever” happen and won’t even set it as a goal.
But she doesn’t want it in any event. Her comments about Sanders supporters were scathing with respect to the Scandinavian model. Don’t try to kid people.
Well said, Wnt.
Actually, no, nothing in the comment suggests that she had any interest whatsoever in pushing for single payer. Remember, that was when she was up against Bernie. Her position that day had to be anti-single-payer.
Anyone who watched Clinton should’ve known this would’ve been a bombshell if released during the Primary! It should’ve been so we could have Bernie in the race!
Clinton also told a housing trade group in 2013 that on certain issues, she has “a public and a private position.” “If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least,” said Clinton, “So, you need both a public and a private position.”
Clinton also told a housing trade group in 2013 that on certain issues, she has “a public and a private position.”
That about sums up why people wanted to see the transcripts.
Typical Clintonese tactics. Tell the public what they want to hear, then do whatever you want after you win.
But who is she lying to placate? The people or the companies. They both have something she wants and they can both pressure her into supporting something whether she believes in it or not.