Excerpts of Hillary Clinton’s previously secret speeches to big banks and trade groups in 2013 and 2014 show her exalting the work of her hosts, hardly a surprise when these groups paid her up to $225,000 an hour to chat them up.
Far from chiding Goldman Sachs for obstructing Democratic proposals for financial reform, Clinton appeared to sympathize with the giant investment bank. At a Goldman Sachs Alternative Investments Symposium in October 2013, Clinton almost apologized for the Dodd-Frank reform bill, explaining that it had to pass “for political reasons,” because “if you were an elected member of Congress and people in your constituency were losing jobs and shutting businesses and everybody in the press is saying it’s all the fault of Wall Street, you can’t sit idly by and do nothing.”
Clinton added, “And I think the jury is still out on that because it was very difficult to sort of sort through it all.”
Clinton praised Deutsche Bank in a 2014 speech for “the work that the Bank has done in New York City on affordable housing.”
While Deutsche Bank has given to anti-homelessness campaigns in the past, it was also cited in a New York State Senate report in January for refusing to maintain foreclosed properties in New York City neighborhoods and costing those communities millions in unpaid fines. Deutsche is also about to face a multi-billion-dollar penalty from the Justice Department for defrauding investors with low-quality mortgage securities, leading to the housing meltdown.
Those excerpts were among many listed in an 80-page document prepared by the Clinton campaign, listing potentially damaging quotes from the Democratic nominee’s paid but at that point still secret speeches. The report landed in campaign chairman John Podesta’s email, which was hacked, and then posted by WikiLeaks last week.
In a November 2013 speech to the National Association of Realtors (NAR), Clinton pronounced herself proud to work with the trade group as a U.S. senator to “look for ways to help families facing foreclosure with concrete steps.”
NAR represents real estate agents, who had no authority to assist distressed homeowners. An April 2007 document lists NAR’s priorities in foreclosure mitigation, and they were able to get an amendment exempting mortgage debt forgiveness from being treated as earned income. But the rest amount to “urging” and “supporting” efforts to help homeowners that never happened.
Clinton has historically been far less critical of the revolving door between Wall Street and Washington than many other Democrats, and as secretary of state allowed two of her top aides — Tom Nides and Robert Hormats — to receive big payouts from their big-bank employers before entering public service.
“Thank you for lending me Tom Nides for the past two years,” Clinton said to a crowd at Morgan Stanley on April 18, 2013. As The Intercept reported in July 2015, Nides moved from chief operating officer at Morgan Stanley into Clinton’s State Department, and when Clinton left Foggy Bottom, Nides went right back to Morgan Stanley as a vice chairman.
Clinton joked about the “culture shock” for Nides, working a government job. “You should have seen his face when he learned there were no stock options at the State Department. But he soon not only settled in very nicely, he became positively enthusiastic when I told him we did have our own plane.” Clinton also gushed about Hormats, who joined her at State after a career at Goldman Sachs, in a 2014 speech at JPMorgan Chase.
In excerpts that got some attention last week, Clinton told bankers that financial reform “really has to come from the industry itself,” that “the people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry,” and that blaming banks for the crisis was “an oversimplification.”
Her former Democratic presidential rival, Bernie Sanders responded in a statement, “Whatever Secretary Clinton may or may not have said behind closed doors on Wall Street, I am determined to implement the agenda of the Democratic Party platform which was agreed upon by her campaign,” and which “calls for breaking up the largest financial institutions in this country, re-establishing Glass-Steagall and prosecuting those many Wall Street CEOs who engaged in illegal behavior.”
The excerpts reveal that Clinton, when speaking to the financial industry, adopted their mindset and privileged their arguments. The question that arises is whether members of a possible Clinton administration will reflect this worldview, or whether the long primary with Sanders has made that untenable. Some aggressive advocates for progressive appointments believe the latter.
“At State and on the speaking circuit, Clinton was in an environment that encouraged her to view Wall Street bankers as fonts of economic wisdom,” said Jeff Hauser, Director of the Revolving Door Project. “But after 15 months running against a progressive populist like Sanders, Clinton knows that government conducted a by rotating stream of bankers is politically unacceptable.”
Top photo: Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton speaks during a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Sept. 27, 2016.
Sorry but I have no faith that she will keep those promises made to Bernie Sanders. If that was the case and then why didn’t she run on a Bernie Sanders type platform to begin. I don’t support people who work with cheaters and skimmers to win. Up till now she has only supported the Big Money Donors and Corporations. Sorry not buying into it. It amazes me that people are willing to vote for a President who has made so many mistakes, and yet because she apologized we are OK with it. Will be going with Jill Stein.
I heard it was Harwood, Grimaldi, and Ballhaus at the WSJ who originally hacked the DNC,Podesta,Foundation e mails. The ONLY reason they didn’t publish them is because Assange/Russians scooped them.
Lmao. To paraphrase Lloyd: “Assange doing God’s work”
Only the most extraordinary hypocrites at this point deny that the Russian are attempting to get Trump elected and that Assange is liaison with the Trump campaign. This is perhaps the most important story since Bush’s lies about Iraq WMD. The Intercept and its follower? Like sheep, fully complicit.
Earlier today, @RT_com tweeted & pubbed a story on fresh @wikileaks Podesta emails dump before WL posted them to the site & tweeted a link.
I haven’t seen ANYONE disputing the CONTENT of the Wikileaks e mails. Defend the content instead of blaming Russians
fixing this post:
“Only [people who demand evidence] deny [that there is any proof that has been presented] that the Russian [sic] are attempting to get Trump elected [(unless they also can’t imagine what motive the Russian would have for this strange desire),] and that Assange is liason [sic] with Trump campaign [unless they think this is idiotic and reject false binary constructions of the sort where all people against Trump really support Clinton and all people against Clinton really support Trump].”
“Like sheep,” Jimmy. Like sheep.
well done well done
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/
UBS whistleblower Birkenfeld gave the DOJ and SEC 52,000 accounts detailing the PEP program (Politically Exposed People). HRC intervened in a criminal matter and “negotiated” the UBS cross border DPA based on just 4500 accounts. Guaranteeing protection and keeping the activity up and running.
I posted this on Jon Schwarz’s story on HRC’s plan to re patriate corporate money stashed in offshore accounts.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts
The Stop Tax Haven Abuse Act has failed to pass Congress since 2007. When the Panama Papers were released in early 2016, it was disclosed that the biggest creators of offshore shells were Credit Suisse, UBS,HSBC, and Rothschild. Shortly after the Panama Papers leak, Sen Wyden inquired into ONSHORE shell activity in NV,WY, and DE. He was told that the Sec of State’s in these States had no authority to investigate suspect shell activity. Only law enforcement and regulators had that authority. Wyden asked the NV Sec of State how many inquiries she had received from regulators and law enforcement in the last 3 years. Her response: ZERO.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/nevada-official-responds-request-information-companies-tied-panama-papers
The story on Romney is remarkable. In addition to offshore shells, Romney had/has a Swiss bank account as well. So, how does someone re patriate undeclared funds in a Swiss bank account back into or into the United States?
The link to the Panama Papers can be found right here in NV.
The article on Romney is telling. People like him are OK with 15% investment income tax rates. 35% personal income rates are for the “little people”. So, if Romney stashed undeclared funds in a Swiss bank account, taking a 10-15% loss in a publicly traded shell is perfectly plausible. Money stashed in a numbered only Swiss bank account laundered through a brokerage account AND with brokerage activity that so far flies under the radar of the IRS. ALL facilitated by a corrupt SEC. Ironically, in another Vanity Fair article just a few weeks ago, Joseph Stiglitz details exactly why he and Mark Pieth resigned from the Panama Papers “investigation”. In the end, Stiglitz acknowledges the ONSHORE money laundering taking place.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/09/the-real-scandal-behind-the-panama-papers
So, when you see people like Ryan,Graham, Bush(es) and other establishment Republicans are pulling support for Trump, it’s not about politics and “character”. It’s about MONEY. This is why Wall Street has supported HRC as well. NOTHING has been done to act on the “strong new measures” Stiglitz cites at the end of the story. HRC, with the help of establishment Republicans and captured regulators and law enforcement will see to it that nothing happens to stop this illegal activity.
Wake up. Its not 2012. Romney did release his tax records and he did pay taxes. He did pay taxes on all his income.
Harry Reid – Senate Majority Leader (D) used government property, the podium and his position to attack private citizens who would NEVER have access to that podium to rebut smear and lies. Reid claimed Romney paid nothing.
Harry Reid later stated that “Yeah I lied but it worked.”
Wondering why so few UBS accounts were provided? Because they did not like the names in them. Clinton took the cash ‘donation’ , dropped the number of accounts…Holder and Obama walked away from their CIVIL complaint. Done and over. Payolla is all that matters.
If I am American and I have a software shop in France. then that income in France is taxed by France. You tell me why the hell I should now pay another 40% on it.
Tell me why South Korea can come here, get stimulus money to build a LED battery plant, hire only SKoreans…and pay no taxes……
yet any American company that tries to invest in the US is immediately
penalized 40%.
yet nothing about Clintons funneling ‘donations’ through offshore store front mailboxes so they do not report who made the donation.
Nothing about Pelosi and Wasserman accounts in India. And nothing about HALF the Obama chairs and staff with offshore accounts. Even your loudest mouth screaming about, Grayson, has three accounts in Caymans that he manages
See, they are currently legal as long as they pay the tax.
You complain about the progressive tax code and its social engineering carrots and then blame republicans. Republicans have been demanding tax overhaul and reform for 20 years. Go flat tax.
I wish I could make $250,000,000 in a few years and build a Foundation with Billions . She sure gives speeches to the neediest people !
Vote for Jill and Ajuma
NEWS FLASH . HRC is a politician!
her comments to the bankers were benign and accurate. boo hoo
shit, even you don’t actually believe that banks ought to regulate themselves….or do you, toady?
READER POLL (TRIVIAL)
I see on twitter in response to Greenwald posts the ever-growing number of Dems showing up claiming that Russian interference is obvious.
(and indeed, Dems are ever growing number, ha ha ha)
Not that it totally matters but psychologically I’m curious to hear other commenter speculation on the following POLL Q:
what percentage of people claiming this really believe it and what percentage of people claiming it do not believe it but say it anyway? Including the people being paid to say it of course…
My guess is that right now it’s about a 35% sincerity rate and a 65% totally cynical/paid shill rate on claims of Russian interference. What do you think?
(Feel free to question my binary framing too, if you can (like people sort of wanting to believe it….)
“perhaps Wallstreet Thieves Just Want To Keep Stealing American Productivity, Jobs, Homes, Public Property, And Now The Truth”
are they in near full panic mode?
perhaps wallstreet is a criminal enterprise and a virus on America?
non-random responses welcome
Ok, so now we have the proof of what we already know. Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal tool of the elite and has never, and will never, do anything resembling an actual act of affirmative leadership.
What is more distressing is that Bernie Sanders is still out stumping for this wretched candidate and not supporting Jill Stein.
Neither is “distressing.” I’m thrilled with every bit of news that comes out about Hillary Clinton.
It confirms my suspicions, why would I not be happy?
Vote for Jill Stein. You can do it. You don’t need Bernie Sanders permission and neither does anybody else. Grow up.
looks like some traitorous un-americans want to use “their” fbi against Americans like israeli aprartheidists use the IDF against the locals there.
huffpo reports that people like Glen Caplin denounced wikileaks for releasing the facts to the American people – owners of their own government. Propagandists are often liars who operate in countries like egypt and other predatory third world countries that Hellary supports – like the Honduras where they murder people for protesting.
Hellary Clinton is a scammer who wants to deceive Americans to feed wallstreet thieves.
“Let us control the money of a country and I care not who makes its laws”
Politics is a side show. Money is all that matters. From 1 end of the political spectrum to the other. We’re all being played against each other. Read the Vanity Fair investigation of Romney’s offshore shells and Swiss bank account. Then read Vanity Fairs interview with Joseph Stiglitz. He and Pieth abruptly resigned from the Panama Papers “investigation” . Regulators and law enforcement don’t need to go to Panama or Switzerland. Just go to Nevada and they could stop ALL of it
That would be a quote from a monopolistic predatory schemer whose family bribed the 1913 elected traitors to the United States whose grave sites need to be removed and whose names need to be stricken for theie deed on December 24 of that year.
Interestingly, when Adolf Hitler removed the thieves running their economy after they ruined it, very much prospered.
The wallstreet thieves running their game on America today were never removed. Their fony print-to-loan-to-own pass-the-debt scheme is still in place and it’s methods are used as a weapon to mine mainstreet for their profits and ownership gathering.
Their coup is coup-master Hellary Clinon who sucks up coups like it was sex. She is that kind of a freak.
What the youth of America today need to realise is that they are victims of this crooked currency scheme and are being deprived to be conditioned to be broken into accepting this scheme for life support. As their victimhood condition progresses, they then are asked to participate in the perpetration of the scheme by passing it on to their children.
America’s youth need to be aware that the native Americans suffer the disasters of the scheme and prefer to not to be victimised by it.
For starters, the SRO Regime needs to be torn down. The SEC considers itself first and foremost a “law enforcement agency”. Yet, it abdicates its authority to enforce the BSA to an unaccountable SRO FINRA. FINRA asked Justin Keener (JMJ/ World Trade Financial fame) to appear for a disciplinary hearing. He told FINRA to f’ off. But then again, the White/Ceresney SEC thinks deficiency letters and waivers are effective deterrents.
Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Knew She Didn’t Tell The Truth About A Major Wall Street Vote
Hellary Clinton is a crafty one with two faces. One public one private.
Psalm 18:26 With the Elect One you will be elect, and with the crooked you will be perverse.
“Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late.” – Felix Frankfurter
It came to me last night. I can’t stand it any more. Last night’s yclept “debate” was a barely above the waterline Hollywood escapade. Who gives a rat’s *ss about stuff that happened 20 years ago? So, if it is relevant, let’s have more of the Orange Cheshire Cat who loves to use a feline term in describing what he does to women.
Oh, that’s right. That garbage got out of its cage last Friday. I am still fighting the nausea that came over me from THAT detritus.
We all have to get a grip. This country’s in serious trouble, and the main reason, in my humble opinion, is that we all have lost our way. And that happened because we refused to follow directions that were written down for us 2,000 (and more) years ago.
I fear for our country, because we are substituting fool’s gold, like the Israelites did so many times from Moses’ time, for the Creator who loves us and wants us to come back to Him. In each person’s own way. If we don’t, the prospects look dark, indeed.
just my 2c. I understand this is not a popular theme, but it needs to be out there.
pj
Wisdom is too often the result of knowledge gained from predictably hitting the brick wall by the cowardice of not applying the brakes at an earlier time.
– barabbas
Back and forth goes the vitriol saw. No wonder people are conflicted.
“Wisdom too often never comes, and so one ought not to reject it merely because it comes late.” – Felix Frankfurter
It came to me last night. I can’t stand it any more. Last night’s yclept “debate” was a barely above the waterline Hollywood escapade. Who gives a rat’s *ss about stuff that happened 20 years ago? So, if it is relevant, let’s have more of the Orange Cheshire Cat who loves to use a feline term in describing what he does to women.
Oh, that’s right. That garbage got out of its cage last Friday. I am still fighting the nausea that came over me from THAT detritus.
We all have to get a grip. This country’s in serious trouble, and the main reason, in my humble opinion, is that we all have lost our way. And that happened because we refused to follow directions that were written down for us 2,000 (and more) years ago.
I fear for our country, because we are substituting fool’s gold, like the Israelites did so many times from Moses’ time, for the Creator who loves us and wants us to come back to Him. In each person’s own way. If we don’t, the prospects look dark, indeed.
just my 2c. I understand this is not a popular theme, but it needs to be out there.
pj
It’s ironic that Hillary’s campaign created this document to highlight and presumably fine-tune and tweak potentially damaging comments, but in the process created a “Worst-Of” list. LOL, this list is a journalist’s dream. Days of content that is already synopsized. Also, considering how Clinton is often portrayed as politically cautious and methodical, she really can be her worst enemy. She didn’t see these speeches coming back to bite her or damaging her already woeful trust among candidates. The $ must have been blinding.
Lucky for her, this fender bender is overshadowed by Trump’s nonstop train wrecks.
With that said, looking at these financial-related quotes, what would strike me as most damning is if these private comments contradicted her public statements. I looked at the Dodd-Frank comments to try to assess this. At this 2013 symposium, she said
Two years later in a NYT Op-Ed she said:
These aren’t contradictory. Judging by the excerpt at the symposium, I think she was downplaying passage of Dodd-Frank to shamelessly pander to her audience. Her 2015 Op-Ed and obtaining Barney Frank as an advisor in 2015 point to her real beliefs. But therein lies her biggest flaw – is the “public” or “private” Hillary the real Hillary?
As someone who performs programmatic reviews, it is critical to have those in industry assisting with reform or proposed changes because they often hold expertise and know the pertinent systems better than outsiders. However, if you let the “industry” dictate the terms and conditions, you’ve been played and will be run over roughshod. It’s hard to say how this would play out. One one hand, Clinton is a very strong personality and highly opinionated. On the other, she has been highly deferential to some, especially those in the military.
Duh.
The Revolving Door’s Jeff Hauser – let us remember his words. This is the kind of naive (or not) Democratic Party boosterism that is as sad as Trump’s attitude towards women. Both reflect a bad relationship, with Wall Street or Trump on top…
Whatever crimes and misdemeanors HRC did to me in the primaries,are irrelevant,as our aim is both the same.
Israel uber alles.
Bernie Asswipe Sanders.
Has there ever been more 3 dollar bills in circulation?Confederate money indeed.
Looks like the Dumbocraps have caught a case of Nixonitis and squealed on themselves. It’s difficult to stay on message when you have produced your own evidence of organized deception and sent it out over the leaky Web.
Just remember, folks, that the US has survived Barack Obama and George W. Bush. We can survive either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and so there is no reason for any person of conscience to vote for either. Pay attention to your local Congressional races, and, where possible, help take the incumbent out.
Actually the US has not “survived” these past presidents. In fact there has been a continual downward spiral that has led to the current joke of a presidential race.
Stop encouraging this behaviour. Stop endorsing this corrupt, broken system.
Stop voting.
George Carlin: Politicians
Don’t forget the other important things you must do such as:
-Stop paying your federally backed student loans
-Stop anything but survival consumption
-Change witholding amounts to minimum and cease paying taxes
Wrenches into the cogs of the machine, it is the only way forward. The government is illegitimate, it has been from some time, we are morally obligated to resist and reestablish one that works for the people.
If a crystal ball showed that my vote was the difference between hillary winning and losing I’d have no choice but I really have a hard time voting for this person.
I dreamed that because I voted for Jill Stein, Hillary lost my state by one vote. I woke up smiling.
Hillary speaks out of both sides of her mouth in 4 ways. I’m sure she would tell me anything to get in office.
Thats just it. They ALL will do or say anything to get the job. Whores
With all the fony lip service Hellary pays to the kissinger genocide guy and the nuttinyahu apartheid guy and the blanknotsofine wallstreet crook, not surprising the half-human half-demon hellary never had time for lip service for her husband.
But know this. If the 2-faced hellary from hell demon is elected, she will betray her supporters and they will turn on her like spurned lovers. That’s when Hellary’s hell on earth begins.
No worries. She will self destruct.
That’s her business. The Earth, however, had many redeeming qualities, so it is unfortunate that she is likely to take it with her.
I do not fear her supporters but do fear her opposition if she pushes toward more global government and open boarders starting from a position of mistrust and dislike. If Hillary self destructs we will not get the Mayday many of her supporters extol but perhaps the “Seven Days in May” many of her opponents crave. Hilary & Trump the Nation is playing with fire. We might control a misguided man, the failure of a misguided woman bound to a misguided system could be more dangerous and catastrophic failure.
The terribly misguided and mediocre man is a lame duck,and soon will be ancient history.Obomba has a zollywood career in his future of course,as he made sure of that by being such a tool.
How is securing our borders in a time of economic misery and terrorism misguided?
How is overturning all these WS trade steals which have destroyed our and the other nations cohesiveness and prosperity misguided?
How is not wanting to continue to destroy Syria and having ww3 with Russia misguided.
How is wanting ISUS destroyed misguided?
How is neutrality for the Palestinian Israel disaster that has fueled every terrorist act against the West misguided?
And how is defending the current attempt to steal this election for the zionist whore HRC in any way progressive and democratic?
Trump is the only way our of our nightmare,but of course idiots and liars think otherwise.
The Arabs have been killing each other (and Jews and Christians too) long before Israel existed. There are no Jews left in nearly every Arab country and yet the Arabs are still blaming Israel for their problems while still killing each other and everybody else. They are as delusional as you.
I am no supporter of Trump but I will vote for a man without control of the a system of sedition and without the elite base to survive much malfeasance over a woman who helped build it and is beyond the rule of law. “Trump is the only way our of our nightmare” maybe our only current option?
Diabolic.
I posted this to Glenn’s piece, but since it needs to be seen. . .
The poorly-constructed plot sickens:
They have no decency. At long last, they have left no sense of decency.
Assange is nobody’s fool.
He is saving “the best for last” and hopefully when it will be too late for Her Royal Highness to pull out another Trump sex talk fest.
I’d be tempted to believe in a benevolent deity if something(s) removed both major party candidates before November 8.
I’m not a religious person, but this election travesty has me thinking a heaven-sent lightning bolt would do the trick, but only when they’re in close proximity to one another. I urge whatever god there may be to not waste a perfectly good bolt of lightning by striking them separately.
From your lips to God’s ear.
Personally, I’d rather believe in Buddha.
A real hoot,aint she?
The validator of our reality,living in a false one.
Hey, if Buddha could get it done, I’d believe in him. (I’m somewhat philosophically Buddhist anyway.)
Agreed. After first linking Trump and Putin, the Demos then blamed the Russians for the the DNC hack, then, when that failed to shift the appropriate amount of attention away from how sleazy the DNC and Democratic Party has become generally, they now are charging the Russians with writing the emails themselves. It makes one wonder what’s left, how low can they go. You’d think this ditch has been dug, but there appears to be no bottom for the Democrats.
It reminds me of McCarthy using communists in the state department lies to distract the American people. Now Clinton is doing a similar tactic of blaming the Russians to distract from her favoritism for the plutocrats and to ignore her leanings toward imperial militarism in foreign adventurism.
Curious behavior for a progressive…
Clinton’s remarks about Frank Dodd show how much politics is about pimp and perception for the her. Instead of saying that it was the right law, or that it was needed for stop fraud against consumers. Is it any wonder that Clinton spoke about private and public positions? I saw a speech she gave to a bunch of Indian workers and she had the same attitude when questioned about American politicians and leaders speaking about the problem of outsourcing and how it hurts Americans. Oh, don’t worry she told the crowd worried about the outsourcing spigot going way, it is all politics. The spigot will remain on, and she and the Clinton Foundation have played a role in that while SOS. She is simply an amoral political chameleon. About the only authentic thing about her is her love of war and mass violence.
I can only say it might be enjoyable to watch die hard Hillary supports go through cognitive dissonance as they have tried to re-invent her as a progressive, which the emails reveal she is not.
this is one of the most tedious websites on the internet and it nearly drives me to tears with its bashing of hillary when it’s a war between democratic principles and the potential destruction by a republican reactionary rollback blitzkrieg.
maybe you are educating some small niche egghead audience, otherwise this site and wikileaks seem like dangerous fifth columnists and anarchists with nothing positive to offer. mostly my impression as i can’t read to far into such dense vanity prose.
“maybe you are educating some small niche egghead audience”
Did it educate you?
How many eggheads can dance in a small niche?
Hahahaha!
+1
sniff sniff….. smells to me like you are very concerned about falsifying the votes in favor of Hellary.Too bad about the wallstreet thieves and their whore media aint it? Donald, if he does lose, is going to have so much to speak on that Hellary wont even to be able to take a position without offending someone because threading the needle wont work as her 2-positions 2-faced double barrel of bs compromises offend everyone. If she wins the presidency, she will be indicted.
bashing hellary? nah. Just not obeying the sheeple directive
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599 and the ellite WMD RUSSIA DID IT WALLSTREET CON JOB.
What I find tedious is the blind support of Clinton apologists and enablers who, despite massive evidence to the contrary, (see article above, as but a single example) somehow continue to believe that her elitist mentality and phony, two-faced tactics come gift wrapped in democratic principles.
They’re called “homers”
What’s more, a few Clintonistas have taken to threatening, first, Sanders’ supporters and, later, Stein’s supporters.
If they’re so confident that their candidate will win, then they could afford to be magnanimous and let things play out.
But their nastiness says otherwise.
Why do you read it? Are you a masochist? Try CNN, it will make you feel better.
Sooo … what do YOU think is going to happen in the $Hill’s presidency? I know what I think is going to happen, and it ain’t gonna be pretty —
i would bet that she has regrets about winning the election.
i bet she gets indicted, impeached, tossed out.
The can is being kicked down the road while our government waits for something to blame the crash on. Probably WWIII.
Why do you think she will win?Serial lying hysterical polls?
I think that their hysteria reveals their fear of a Trump victory,where zion,at last will suck hind tit.
Wikileaks has ALWAYS BEEN AUTHENTIC.
One must applaud the aplomb with which CrookdClintons LIE– by definition is Public and Private policies simultaneous!
All this because noone will denounce DISHONEST FPOTUSA,
Who are the ‘aggressive advocates for the progressives’ that you are referring to in the 2nd to last paragraph?
@Jim
Yes, they have been.
1. Wikileaks has never, in the over ten years it has been doing what it does, published an inauthentic document and is very sophisticated about assessing them; and
2. Not a single person who sent or received any of the released emails has denied that they are accurate.
Indeed, at the last debate Hillary Clinton answered the question about taking one position in public and another in private with an elaborate pile of crap about Lincoln — what she DID NOT DO was deny the email where she said that was real.
Boo-fucking-hoo.
There’s not a thing illegal about publishing these documents, so you’re just gonna have to be butthurt. (But if they’re not real, what’s all the butthurt about?)
Wellsaid– legitimate expectation of privacy!
CrookdClintons lie.
Clintonemail.com to talk to crimials, in private.
Are you with Jill2016?
Hillary & her husband are deplorable people that genuflect to evil as they receive their speaking fees, & Clinton Foundation contributions, which are historically speaking among the greatest examples of political corruption.
An article in the Intercept pointed out: As The New York Times detailed in 2015, Hillary and her husband Bill were at the center of a deal that “gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States.” Those responsible for engineering that deal gave millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation, which “were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors.” Hillary herself approved the deal as Secretary of State, while Bill personally “received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.”
Is this Russian deal not an excellent example of what Hillary espouses: To Wall Street…” said Clinton. “So, you need both a public and a private position.” It is also so hypocritical in that her campaign operatives malign anyone standing in her path to power as a treasonous Russian sympathizer.
I anxiously await the responses of Hillary’s “Correct The Record” and the like paid trolls deceitfully acting as activists.
Bernie and each of his followers already knew this…but for some reason (only he knows) he endorses Queen Hillary. And now she wants the millennials to support her? Gotta think that is just not gonna happen.
President and Mrs. Stainmaker are evil to the core, but of the two she’s easily the most wicked.
Father Karras had questions for Regan and wanted to know which of her two faces was talking. Father Merrin reminded Father Karras there was only one.
People asking Hellary Clinton would also be wise to understand her 2-face mental disorder, or at least ask which face, public or private, is talking.
And to ask quickly, before they crash out of the window onto the alley below.
” explaining that it had to pass “for political reasons,” because “if you were an elected member of Congress and people in your constituency were losing jobs and shutting businesses and everybody in the press is saying it’s all the fault of Wall Street, you can’t sit idly by and do nothing.””
Ooohhhhh….so that’s what she means by a public position and a private position…..
Maybe Bernie was on to something…
I’m not voting for Clinton as much as I am voting against Trump. A law and order Nationalist with a track record of actions and statements that lack integrity and truthfullness. That said, Clinton is not honest or trustworthy either, however, Sanders is going to be the most powerful man in Senate if she wins and the GOP continues to implode down ballot. And I believe in Bernie and his message….enough is enough!
I think you are being naïve if you think HRC is going to do anything at all to work with Sanders. At best she will throw him a bone to try to get hand out some free education and hope he dies of old age, or hopes he is looking out an open 20th floor window…
sure – which of your 2 faces matters most to you, the one that believed Bernie Sanders before, or the one that believed him after?
Dreaming is free. . .
SenSanders has become a nobod.y has been who was not smart to miss his opportunity!
CrookdClinton doublecrossed him and your vote makes you next on the list.
And in four ONETERM years you will be plder, poorer and crying, still believing in the hope and change!
Bend over Bernies message was he likes it up the poop chute,hard.
In fact, they were handed trillions
Of course her administration will bow down, she is the queen after all ( in their minds). Let’s get to the devil slaying
Trump 2016 or bust…no really we’ll be full blown third world.
Reason #529 I will not be voting for Hillary Clinton.
You know, I’ve been paying attention and I actually think you may not, at least yet, lost track of the count.
How depressing is that?
Poor Hillary her disingenuous nature is so very apparent to us all – Trump is probably the only candidate she could beat… Of course none in the GOP would bring up her speeches as they were just jealous they didn’t get to do it for hundreds of thousands of dollars per hour. Got Public Service ? Ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can sell your country for… JFK would be so proud.
bootiefull.
She would have beat Jeb,Rubio and Cruz handily,as who the hell on the rational side of things would ever vote for those idiots except Shrub voters,and they are numbered in the low single digits.
She might have thought Trump a pushover,but that’s just another sign of how dumb she is,living in her bubble of millions,all gained at the public’s expense.What an evil twit.
Why doesn’t anyone wake up to the fact under the Dodd frank act big banks can legally take up to 80 percent per depositor. Congress gave that power to the fdic what a joke
This information was stolen from people who had a legitimate expectation of privacy. And while Snowden’s disclosures exposed illegality, these email excerpts are NOT newsworthy just because the subjects are public figures and the documents are genuine. It also appears the emails were stolen solely to advance Russia’s goal of interfering with and manipulating the results of our democratic election process. Does Intercept have any scruples when it comes to respecting privacy, or do they, like Wikileaks and Gawker, think it’s newsworthy merely because of who Hillary is? If you don’t care about source motives, then you defer all responsibility for skepticism to the readers–who already don’t use that skepticism often enough. Intercept cannot complain then if its readers are skeptical of the journalists’ and publisher’s motives in publishing this. I didn’t watch Hulk Hogan sees tape either–it was private, and genuineness or status as public figure (entertainer or politician) doesn’t excuse that.
Glenn Greenwald has written about source motives extensively. To summarize, the issue is if documentation is authentic or not, not the motives of the source, which may be unknowable. What do you think the motives of the person who sent Trump’s tax return to the New York Times were? Was it a newsworthy story?
Trump has a legal right to financial privacy in his tax returns, just like he does his vote, just like he does his naked body in his house. If you want to infer negative things about his refusal to provide them, you are free to do so. But if a criminal violates his privacy, the press should not act as the information equivalent to a money launderer.
“Hulk Hogan sees tape” was really exciting. I don’t want to give anything away but at the end he sees paper too.
Public officials and/or those seeking offices in government are public servants. Verified source documents that yield information in the public interest – in this case, in making voting decisions for the highest office in the land – are demonstrably critical to making that decision.
In an era where Congress acts to retroactively legalize actions of corporate actors (see the telecom industry spying), the “legality” of a given transaction is no longer of sole paramount importance.
Ah but they weren’t verified. If you as a journalist get a stack of documents, you must do what you can to try to verify that all are accurate. You don’t publish first and challenge the victim to deny later. The victims of theft don’t owe you an explanation for documents in which they had a legitimate privacy interest that were stolen. You can steal and publish someone’s documents, but extorting comment like this is why many people have a low opinion of journalists and some publications.
Do you believe a campaign manager has the right to a private conversation, and private counsel to a candidate? Are you OK with NSA snooping on that conversation? Why are you OK with a journalist snooping on it, or with a criminal stealing it and providing it to a journalist who claims “I don’t care about the thief’s motivation,” then publishes it as if he stole it? Ever heard of the crimes of selling stolen property and receiving stolen property? What is it about the profession of “journalist” make one immune from the latter? And you let the journalist decide what’s in the public interest (and, effectively, when they’ve broken the law)?
Not a single major company mortgage company executive was prosecuted by Obama’s FBI.
You babble that it is noteworthy when something is illegal.
Legality is meaningless.
the third branch of government disagrees
Hillary is a hawk who has defended the intelligence and police communities unprecedented invasion of ordinary Americans’ privacy. The minute she takes substantive steps to reign in this overreach we will take her and your protests seriously.
As to the authenticity of the released documents, if they are fake let the aggrieved parties provide proof. Thus far, the only response has been silence or “no comment”.
Who told you that?
Do you have evidence that WikiLeaks has ever published material without verifying its authenticity?
Do you have evidence that any material ever published by WikiLeaks has subsequently been demonstrated to be inauthentic?
If not. . . what is it the kidz say on the Intertubes? Oh, yeah: STFU.
What is the difference between genuine and verified? Your original post states the emails are genuine but in one the responses you state they weren’t verified?
It is an interesting point you bring up.
Are you stupid?
The NSA works for the HB,works for Obomba,and doesn’t work for the American people one bit.
They are all political appointments,or lifelong deliverers of the insecurity they allegedly protect.
Truth,no matter its provenance,is what should be paramount.
And the truth is she is the absolutely worst choice for America in its history,unless one sees the last 20 years as nirvana.
If Mrs. Clinton and her team had run an honest and above board campaign and had the DNC not been totally corrupt in its dealings with Sen. Sanders and if Mrs. Clinton had used The State Department email system for all her correspondence as Secretary of State (which would have made all FOIA requests instantly available) and if her campaign had not colluded with the MSM and had they not “gone along to get along” with her and on and on and on, there would have been nothing for Wikileaks to leak!
Had Mrs. Clinton just released the transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches when Sen. Sanders asked her to….
Mrs. Clinton dug the hole she now finds herself in. And I hope Julian Assange helps her dig it deeper prior to November 8th.
The only time the two bastards ever stepped up for the American people was at the beginning of his first term where they talked healthcare reform,and the PTB put our Harry and Sally,and the two shites ran like hell to corporate slavedom.
Not once has she ever stepped out on her own and taken a position not countenanced by the MSM and their agenda,zioglobalization and privatization.
Complete sell outs.
Motivation is irrelevant. Truth is truth. Expose the hyprocrites whoever they are.
Jim how much is the Hillary campaign paying you to troll?
I might add that everything released thus far substantiates, and in no way contradicts, the Clinton track record of kowtowing to special interests for personal gain. It’s not as if all of this came out of left field.
“Not news worthy”…?
It’s prosecution worthy on many fronts.
lose your medication? no matter, you are already prepared for halloween.
Actually ,I think the HB didn’t take her adderall the other night,and it showed.
“This information was stolen from people who had a legitimate expectation of privacy.” – What is Clinton’s opinion on the total availability, for the NSA, of information belonging to the private citizens of the US? Let’s guess…
Her ilk used to say, “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.” Well. After Snowden’ and Wikileaks’ revelations the scoundrels have suddenly changed their song for “legitimate expectation of privacy,” whereas Clinton wants Snowden to be droned. What a special person this Mrs. Clinton is. It is not for nothing that Hilary Clinton is known as Butcheress of Libya and darling of Wall Street.
As for your pleas for democratic process, you need first to check the most generous contributors to Clinton Foundation. To make it easier for you: Saudis and Bahrain are among the sweetest sugar daddies. And of course, the US has approved a sale of lethal weaponry for the kingdoms, so that Saudis could kill as many Syrians and Yemenis as the provided weaponry could permit. Some 10.000 human beings of all ages in Yemen so far – nothing to compare with the slaughter in Iraq (Clinton approved), the destruction of Libya (Clinton pushed for), and the ongoing tragedy in Syria (Clinton wants more weaponry for Al Qaeda to prolong the invasion against the sovereign state of Syria). Or you want to discuss the “scruples” and the anti-Clinton “bias” of the facts? Or perhaps you believe that the bitter truth about the tragedies of Iraq, Libya, and Syria – and about the corruption of democratic procession the US – is not truth at all but invention of the bad Russians? Try to add some honesty to your thinking process.
Unless a person denies authorship of a published document, the motive of the agent who exposed it is entirely irrelevant. Only the attributed author can say whether it’s a fake. If they don’t, it’s logical to assume it’s genuine.
If the Russians can successfully “influence” the American election by revealing the calumny of US public officials seeking high office, bless ’em. If written deceits by persons who ALSO influence the American election have been purloined and exposed, it’s a public service. Not a problem.
Public figures who lie to obtain office are a far greater danger than Putin sitting in the Kremlin, whether or not he is complicit.
Neither presidential candidate is fit to serve in any public office. Everyone knows that. It’s a contest of professed virtue among whores.
There is no such thing as a free election unless the last choice offered on the ballot is “none of the above”. Otherwise, people must choose to either stay home and pick their noses or go to the polls and hold their noses.
The upcoming election comes down to a decision whether to:
A. blow up the game or…
B. encourage the corrupt to amp up their deceits.
Unfortunately, “B” eventually leads to “A”. Either way, people always get the government they deserve.
Hulk Hogan sex tape = HRC’s speeches to Wall Street?
When someones “privacy” is violated and they are exposed colluding to steal an election and then maintain the status quo, or ratchet up the inequality even more, I think there is a duty to expose them to the light of day. That you think this is equal to a lurid sex tape says more about you than I care to know.
Or I could have just acknowledged your concern trolling. Go back to fretting about the obscenely wealthy and powerful, and do it in private, will you?
So you do not think the tapes of Trump’s lowbrow talk of women should not have been released?
What are we to make of the revelation that WikiLeaks’s supposed hack of Clinton’s emails contains fraudulent emails that weren’t actually written by the people they were supposedly from?
http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/11/in-the-democratic-echo-chamber-inconvenient-truths-are-recast-as-putin-plots/
“What are we to make of the revelation that WikiLeaks’s supposed hack of Clinton’s emails contains fraudulent emails that weren’t actually written by the people they were supposedly from?”
What evidence do you have that WikiLeaks is the hacker in question?
I think we should make a birthday cake.
If Maryscott is 12 or older, no cake for her until she finishes her “reading for meaning” homework.
@ Maryscott O’Connor
That you can’t read for comprehension or critically analyze the (non)proof of the purported “revelation” that is nothing of the kind.
Go ahead and establish, with linked proof, that a single e-mail is fraudulent or doctored, and/or that a hostile foreign power is behind the leak. That’s assuming you can comprehend the difference between objective proof of some X rather than someone’s supposition, speculation or opinion about the existence of X and absent any proof of X.
Go ahead, we’ll wait.
That wouldn’t even be a question if the Queen of Corruption had simply released transcripts of her own volition, or refrained from giving these speeches to begin with since she knew she was going to be running for office again. Oh, but no, it must be the evil hackers to blame, not Hillary herself.
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/11/in-the-democratic-echo-chamber-inconvenient-truths-are-recast-as-putin-plots/
CrookdClintons have the honor of ruining the Democratic Party and attempting to ruin the democratic process.
The Democratic Party is ruined only because it has been exposed. Not because it only recently became corrupt.
That you are a vaginal voter?
Question: What was it that prevented Hillary from affecting the type of change that she purportedly stood for while serving in Congress?
Answer (given during 2nd debate): Presidential veto power.
It will be very interesting to see how resolute Bernie will remain when President HRC wields her “phallic pen on the pure space” of his virgin intent.
This is a terrible, clickbait article. Read the entire excerpts so you can see what she’s actually saying.
For example, Clinton says: “Today, there’s more that can and should be done that really has to come from the industry itself, and how we can strengthen our economy, create more jobs at a time where that’s increasingly challenging, and get back to Teddy Roosevelt’s square deal.”
Telling the financial services industry to “get your shit together” in a nice way is productive communication. In this article, it’s portrayed as somehow anti-government regulation. Just bad journalism.
Well assuming for the sake of argument that the Dems capture both the Presidency and either/both the Senate or House, and the things Bernie Sanders supports legislatively actually make it to the President’s desk, and a Pres. Clinton vetoes those things–she might as well kiss her chances of reelection bye bye. There are very few Bernie Sanders supporters that are voting for Hillary Clinton with anything other than a close pin affixed firmly to their noses and a big dose of fear of Donald Trump. That won’t work for her in 2020 if she starts vetoing actual legislation effectuating her purported “progressive agenda”. And the American people sure as shit aren’t going to oppose busting up the big banks, re-establishing Glass-Steagall and/or prosecuting Wall Street CEOs and various other Wall Street fuck sticks and greed heads. They aren’t real popular among the rank and file of America these days regardless of party affiliation
I am so pissed HRC is running against a circus peanut. It’s the only way she can win.