Asked on Tuesday about Donald Trump’s claim that the election he seems on track to lose is being “rigged” against him, President Obama observed that there was no evidence of “significant voter fraud” and suggested that “it doesn’t really show the kind of leadership and toughness you’d want out of a president, if you start whining before the game is even over.”
Obama on Trump's election claims: "I'd invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes" https://t.co/abzyEfZgW0 pic.twitter.com/eJKFsxryU6
— CNN (@CNN) October 18, 2016
“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part, because they are so decentralized,” Obama added. “And so I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes.”
That the famously prickly Trump did not immediately respond to the president’s taunting could be a sign of new discipline, but it is not just the candidate’s political opponents who have tired of his shtick. On Monday’s Late Show, Bill O’Reilly said that his first piece of advice to Trump would be simple: “Stop whining.”
Trump should spend less time "whining" and more time on the issues, says @oreillyfactor pic.twitter.com/wSfHKrlRRA
— Yahoo News (@YahooNews) October 18, 2016
“He should have a little buzzer, you know, that whenever he whines, they like bahhhn,” O’Reilly added, miming his aides pressing a button. “You know: Stop. Stop.”
It is one of the many oddities of Trump’s run for the White House that his bizarre pronouncements on O’Reilly’s show — like his call for the United States to seize Iraq’s oil in 2011, or his admission that his plan to tackle urban crime is so secret that even he does not know what it is — have frequently made the blustering Fox pundit seem like the voice of reason.
Perhaps the strangest thing about the #whining critique of Trump, though, is that he appeared to boast, in a CNN interview last year, that it is a positive character trait. “That’s right, I am the most fabulous whiner — I do whine, because I want to win, and I’m not happy if I’m not winning,” Trump told Chris Cuomo in August 2015.
We're gonna whine so much you're gonna get tired of whining pic.twitter.com/gTHpTgIVZB
— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) August 14, 2016
“I am a whiner, and I keep whining and whining until I win,” Trump added.
That interview took place days after the first Republican primary debate, when Trump went into an extended tirade about the supposed unfairness of the moderator Megyn Kelly having asked him how he would handle the inevitable charge from Hillary Clinton that he did not respect women.
In that CNN interview, Trump was responding to criticism of his behavior in the aftermath of the debate from the conservative columnist Rich Lowry, who had suggested that a candidate whose response to an unflattering question was to “whine like a spoiled child” was unlikely to make good on his promises to “bring Vladimir Putin to heel” and “make Mexico pay for a border fence.”
Trump’s complaints about voter fraud, which are based on a long-running but disingenuous campaign by Republicans to keep minority voters from casting ballots, were also rejected on Tuesday by his adviser Chris Christie’s personal hero, Bruce Springsteen.
“The trouble at the moment is you have Donald Trump, who is talking about rigged elections,” Springsteen told Britain’s Channel 4 News. “He knows he’s gonna lose and he is such a flagrant, toxic narcissist, that he wants to take down the entire democratic system with him if he goes.”
“He’s such a flagrant, toxic narcissist.” That's Bruce Springsteen's view of @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/jHNrLZIXQr
— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) October 18, 2016
“He simply has no sense of decency and no sense of responsibility about him,” Springsteen added. “And the words that he’s been using over the past several weeks really are an attack on the entire democratic process.”
Top photo: Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Council Bluffs, Iowa, on Sept. 28, 2016.
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With all due respect, Mr. Trump is simply echoing what his supporters believe and feel….and, the complaint is based on history!
Do you forget the huge amount of informations Debbie Lusignan gave and still is giving about election fraud in all states? Bernie Sanders won the election, Clinton did not. This woman is a fraud. Trump is no option. Why don’t you speak more about Dr Jill Stein? I don’t understand why they all stick to Clinton-Trump, that’s a mystery to me.
#VoteNobody2016
I feel like the empty, P.R. machine that Obama is twenty years from now will be a lot more apparent and him commenting on the moral aptitude of anything will be seen as shudderingly ironic
I mean – look over here while we do terrible stuff underneath and everywhere would, in my small opinion, embody his use
Never in the history of U.S. politics has the ‘corrupt corporate media’ reigned hell on one candidate – Donald Trump. And for that reason Mr. Trump gets my vote.
p.s. might as well include The Intercept as part of the corrupt corporate media since propagandist Robert Mackey got hired.
Never in the history of US politics has a presidential candidate claimed that the election is rigged because he’s doing so poorly in the polls. Never in the history of US politics has a presidential candidate had no experience whatsoever to be president and became a front-runner of a prominent party due to the gullibility and ignorance of his supporters. Never in the history of US politics has a presidential candidate boasted of being a sexual predator who routinely grabs women by the pussy because he’s a “star” and wealthy stars can break the law with immunity. Never in the history of US politics has a presidential candidate lied 78% of the time he speaks and have his supporters think that’s a great attribute.
I cannot Hillary Clinton or our insidiously corrupt media, but how that makes a disgusting, narcissistic, incompetent, criminal asshole like Trump credible candidate makes zero sense.
Ask Sanders if he thinks the system is rigged.
It is only the truth that hurts.
so Bernie and Trump both share a viewpoint of rigged/fraudulent system? first of all rigged and fraud are completely different things. second, why do opposing political minds have to disagree on everything? surely there are some things – like a BS presidential election system – in which everyone could potentially agree.
Too bad Bernie was too much of a coward to come out vocally against the clearly proven rigging against him.
What a poor article. I expected better from The Intercept.
I certainly won’t be voting for Trump.
But hell will freeze over before I vote for Hillary.
And, whenever two amoral, narcissitic, deceitful, and opportunistic a$$holes for whom I have NO respect–i.e., Obomber and O’Liely (mainly because of their long demonstrated history of the lack of any honesty or integrity)–agree on something, you can bet that I will draw the opposite conclusion from whatever it is that they have to say.
Mackey, you are real idiot for citing these two LIARS as authorities on ANY subject . . . including the subject of Donald Trump.
I’ll tell you this: Seeing how much the establishment presstitutes are heavily dissing Trump while at the same time playing down or even ignoring Hillary’s corruption, deceit, and misdeeds, makes me almost want to vote for Trump . . . . just to spite and rebel against the establishment.
But, in good conscience, I cannot vote for Trump, even though, in the midst of his spewing a lot of nonsense, he happens to be correct about a number of issues . . . from time to time.
But you, Mackey, like a partisan shill try to paint him as a “whiner” by citing the comments of two career, lying, amoral opportunists–Obomber and O’Liely,
The American corporate-political establishment, and the mainstream, corporate newsmedia that they own and/or control, is in-the-tank for Hillary.
And it appears that you are too, Mackey.
What happened to the Honest Congress cry to curb Saudi aggression in the Yemen?
Or was it a faux-outrage to send the press off the stench of big profits made by selling them all the tools of killing and destruction.
Faux that.
I ain’t paying for all them tools a freedom and greatness.
ain’t paid nothing for my phone or computers , neither.
The two corporate party system that has given us the choice between Trump and Clinton are proof enough that our election process is corrupt. The only people who would truly benefit from fixing this dog race would be those who have hitched themselves to one team or the other solely for personal gain, not for their hair’s width difference in policy or ideology.
Election rigging is obvious.
Fascism is surely and truly evident by the press collusion with the governing to suppress truths. Those are crimes of devastating consequences. The sooner those responsible pay the price, the better,
This, and many more truths, should not have disappeared from the news:
“Hillary Approved Sarin Gas to Rebels to Frame Assad”
http://conservativepapers.com/news/2016/05/08/hillary-approved-sarin-gas-to-rebels-to-frame-assad/
But let’s hope, this infantile and dangerous behaviour from the press and politicians will be the start of the system immediately crumbling on its head that a real change, and a better governance, will emerge.
It’s not just Mr. Trump. I continually encounter people in all walks of life, whining about how their constitutional rights are being taken away. Instead of thanking the government for keeping them secure, they whine about invasions of privacy and being under continual surveillance.
The root problem, I believe, is that people have been given too many rights. If you spare the rod, you spoil the citizen. As a result, America has become a nation of whiners. The only solution is to make whining a criminal offense and build new prisons to house the legions of whiners – starting with Mr. Trump.
Is that the official Hillary Dems position?
Let’s vote Jill2016.com
Are you asking about the private policy position, or the public one ?
It is a good thing Hillary’s deportment is so pure and admirable; or the Intercept would have to have articles critical of her as well. Bruce Springsteen is clearly the expert in political matters so glad you have sought him out for a definitive judgment. If you could get Nobel Laureate Bob Dylan to comment then we could all go vote for Hillary with a clear conscience. Or would it be the brilliant Gary Johnson? Seems you might lean to him?
Ah this is so funny. The 2nd time Bobby has tried to rehabilitate some right wing Fox reactionary as a legitimate source of critiques about Trump. What next? O’reilly and Kelly get serious about veggie baby formula–Trump opposes feeding babies. Don’t vote for Trump.”
Come on, if you want to get some eyes on Hillary sycophancy, hire Henry Kissinger to write some articles on The Intercept. Now that would generate some clicks and site traffic.
Advice for Mackey on anything and everything Trump-related:
Stop whining.
That doesn’t really make sense
does chris christie like miley cyrus? she said she will leave the country if trump is elected!!!
“We’re all just f—ing jam between his rich ass toes!” she wrote. “Honestly f— this s— I am moving if this is my president! I don’t say things I don’t mean!”
Roughly a third of the country uses hackable electronic voting machines.
Obama is selling corruption as usual.
And Hackey puts up another poster for Shillary …
Springsteen says “he’s gonna lose.” That is an attack on the democratic process.
What’s the deal with Julian Assange? Who cut off his internet? John Kerry? The British?
Anybody know?
Per Wikileaks, Ecuador cut them off, thanks to pressure on Ecuador by John Kerry. (He may have learned something from Iraq and and his embarrassment by Lavrov- he’s not using physical force.)
The one armed man ?
How do you know his Internet was actually cut off ? I smell bullshit. If it was…. which I don’t believe it actually was…. then my guess would be the dnc.
Quite right, quite right.
Let me tell you a little something about significant, wide spread ‘voter fraud’, bob mackey.
My first real employment, when I was around 14/15yrs. old (and I’m no spring chicken), was to haul drunks, derelicts and/or otherwise ragged people to the voting booth and pay them (cash and/or a pint of red liquor) to vote for whichever Democrat and/or Republican candidate was paying the most that day. Some political pundits call this the ‘ground game’ or ‘get out the vote’. *I, of course, made a small commission on each and every
sellvote. Good money … but, eventually, it interfered with my formal education.More or less, that’s how voter fraud works from Main st. to K. st., bob. *see Wikileaks Clinton disclosures for more high-end voter fraud schemes
You’re saying that none of these people you “hauled” was registered?
No. My ‘clients’ were all long-term citizens of the county, all known by name, with some more well known than others. The ‘election supervisor’ greeted one and all by name and waved them in … drunk or sober.
*on second thought, perhaps I shouldn’t describe this work as ‘significant voter fraud’! :)
I agree. I saw many cases where drunks were driven from a bar to vote, but they were registered, just not motivated.
The Establishment is corrupt. Why wouldn’t they steal the election? Lying, stealing and cheating is what corrupt people do. Wikileaks released emails detailing corruption at the DNC and the fact that the media is in thrall to Hillary.
There is a video where 20,000 people are chanting at the the media pool
“Tell the Truth!”
“Tell the Truth!”
“Tell the Truth!”
“Tell the Truth!”
The credibility of the MSM is kaput. Who is to blame for that? Trump or people like Mackey?
It is the will of oppressor predatory thieves that run the crooked rothschild zionic currency operation and their “price sticker shockers” wallstreet thieves who rob Americans, that Donald Trump & Americans should just take a beating in preparation for their nexting beating by their favorite whore Hellary.
IT’S COMPLAINT TIME.
and this time, the thieves are afraid.
acchtung!
LOL
I look forward to a post-Trump reckoning.
After the horse race has ended and the dust settled and after people have some time to reflect upon Trump’s endless list of shortcomings and just how close this windbag got to the Presidency. My hope is to see a public shaming like never before heaped upon the powerful officials and legislators that publicly facilitated, supported, enabled, tolerated, excused, and failed to disavow his actions.
In reference to the article, Trump’s rantings about systemic voter fraud are both unfounded, reckless, and dangerous. The Brennan Center for Justice cited voter fraud incident rates between 0.00004 percent and 0.0009 percent. If there is voter intimidation or post-election unrest and violence due to perceived “rigging” of the system, blood will be on Trump’s hands. His supporters see this unfolding (e.g. Conway, Peter King, Pence, Giuliani) yet continue to act as spineless mouthpieces to dampen or excuse his irresponsible comments and actions such as recruiting election observers to “Help Me Stop Crooked Hillary From Rigging This Election!”
Trump is truly an unprecedented candidate.
8 June 1967. The murder of 34 American service persons.
WTF does the USS Liberty have to do with Nate’s post?
When he loses the deplorables will blame the Jooos.
the hellary camp is equating locker-room jabber as an offence equal to anything and everything hellary has done. But they failed to add in her support for the murder of 34 service persons. Nate’s role to make shame rain is a dis-service to his colony – put up a distractive smoke screen against what Hillary does not want to discuss – mainly her support for the USS Liberty murders. I bring this up now to give him another issue for his colony to prepare for because it is the tip of the iceberg which may be an issue in the coming presidency.
“8 June 1967. The murder of 34 American service persons.”
I wonder what role this act of treason played in LBJ not running.
Intercept Readers Agree that Robert Mackey Should “Stop Writing”
Honestly, the internet does not need a Kevin Drum knockoff.
Someone who doesn’t know the difference between his own petty feelings, and what “Intercept Readers Agree” upon, is in no position to judge anyone, AT ALL.
“Intercept Readers Agree that Robert Mackey Should “Stop Writing””
I’ll second that motion.
Well this is an immature chain
The elections ARE rigged. Not against Trump, but against third/minor party candidates. Mr. Mackey, you can’t seriously believe that the Commission on Presidential Debates’ poll criteria is fair, or that requiring 25,000, 50,000, or even upwards of 100,000 signatures just to get on the ballot is fair either. Much of Jill Stein’s campaign budget went to ballot access, for instance, and unlike the other three candidates she doesn’t have corporate CEO donors to fall back on; she and the Green Party refuse such donations. It also doesn’t help that the news media, despite an increase in coverage of third party candidates, still doesn’t give the national candidates anywhere near the amount of coverage that they give the Democrats and Republicans.
In short, our country is very undemocratic compared to many others that have publicly funded elections, proportional representation and/or ranked choice voting, and inclusive debates.
In 2008, Obama received over a million illegal votes in the state of Texas. McCain received more illegal votes than Obama in Texas.
How can I be so sure? What does this have to do with the previous post? Simple. Texas, like all other states, has a deadline for candidates to be on the ballot. In 2008, neither Obama/Biden nor McCain/Palin made the deadline. Texas broke their own laws to put Obama and McCain on the ballot. Had they enforced the laws (or had federal courts forced them to), Bob Barr would have won Texas and all its electoral votes.
Dont be so sure.
http://mrontemp.blogspot.com/2008/09/correction-obamas-and-mccains-filings.html?m=1
Awwwwwwwww, but he caaaaaaaaaan’t.
Aren’t we all so very grateful for Mackey’s deep investigative reporting? I mean, it saves us from having to watch the TV news/comedy shows or read blogs and twitter.
“I mean, it saves us from having to watch the TV news/comedy shows or read blogs and twitter.”
Mackey’s work reads like Twitter.
Were President Obama to admit that the election system is rigged, he would be admitting that his own election was phony. Yet worse, that the entire system has become so phony that were the American people to find out, they may act to get “real change”!
Bill Maher has been rallying his audiences to the fact that Mr Trump is a “whiny little bitch.” He nailed it a while ago.
I splurted!That little pos whiny atheist zionist crud calls Trump whiny?
What’s the over under on the Jewish vote for Trump?sheesh.God you clowns are so transparent.
He’ll get Jews for Jesus maybe.
Too funny. You’re the one that is transparent. Another anti zionist who reveals themselves to be anti Jew.
wrong.
i’m the whiny little bitch.
F*ck him and him,two phony peas in a propaganda pod.
This Obomba moron has had the most sympathetic non criticizing press in the republics history,while Donald Trump is assassinated in the lying media every day.
A joke.And so is O’liely.
One beautiful thing about Trump is that I find so many Republicans starting to agree with me. Bill O’Reilly is an idiot — how many times have I wished I could get them to see that! And now they do. John McCain is a crooked blowhard who hands over the best copper mines to Rio Tinto for a bunch of scrap land, destroying sacred Indian land in the process … never thought I’d hear Republicans criticize him. Now we are even starting to see eye to eye about Paul Ryan. Will wonders never cease!
I just wish I could enjoy the fantasy for a month or two that these people wouldn’t all come crawling back to Trump if he wins, and him to them, but I know better. Republicans have been put in a tactical bind with a lack of higher guidance for the moment, but when all is said and done – they do what they’re told. Always.
There is no real reason to reelect either of these ziowhores,so hopefully their stabs in the back will backfire.
I think Ryans head is much too big,because Mitt nominated him as VP,and he’s got plans.Hopefully ill laid plans.
I just don’t get how people can’t see the absolute fealty of all these traitors for zion and the MSM.
Do they like our terrible present?
How can America first be a bad thing?(Outside of the commie wackos)
Anyone remember Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall??? Started in NY with illegal immigrants. Sound familiar?
Anyone remember George Wallace and the KKK???
Anyone remember the Copper Collars of Montana and Wyoming???
That’s just a few.
I think Bill OReilly and Obama should just move to Kenya.
Like… Yesterday.
All this “whining” is preemptive. I think we’re going to find out that the Republicans have been doing more vote caging than we would possibly believe. They’re yammering on about supposed fraud because they’re going to be doing their best to see that millions of people are denied a chance to cast the ballot to which they are entitled – instead they’ll get shunted to provisional-ballot lines, and I bet those lines will wrap around to next Thursday.
Wnt – I thought you had it all together. Going to be?
Check out Greg Palast: http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/08/31/dirty-tricks-election-thieves/
Palast;Chuck Shumers brother from another father?Another propagandist.
They should have been dentists,the creeps.
If elections could change anything of significance, they would be illegal; as they are, they are a farce, basically manufactured consent; it’s cheaper than the mailed fist and more effective. Of course there is election corruption from gerrymandering to voting machines with no paper trail yet, robocalls, onerous requirements and on and on so the corporate duopoly changes from Tweedledum to Tweedledee. I think the last eight years could be called the Bush/Obama Presidency. If someone actually wanted to do something good for the people and had the votes the Supreme Court would not allow it; they stymied FDR.
Sadly for Trump, he is making a tepid argument. His point that the media hates him is correct, but this would be understandable even if he didn’t pretend to oppose the system, as he’s such an unfocused mess. However, the establishment will indeed cheat to ‘win’ the selection for Hillary Clinton – if they have to. But it probably won’t be necessary since Trump keeps sabotaging himself.* If they do actually rig the election it will be a simple matter for the duopoly (remember that at the highest levels the elite are a singular, self-protective elite), much simpler than voter fraud (my emphasis):
US elections and the hacking of e-voting machines
(*I am still of the opinion that Trump is controlled opposition, a phony candidate put forth by the united duopoly that also put forth Clinton to win – against a caricature to whom no one could lose – and that his failure to make consistently sensible arguments against Clinton’s corrupt corporatism, militarism and imperialism is indicative of this. This perspective often annoys some readers, but if the Intercept can annoy me by paying Robert Mackey for going on Twitter I figure I can do a little irritating of my own.)
Oh, and vote for Jill Stein. You know you want to.
I’m sorry,your intentions seem good,and while idealism is a worthy and noble cause,we are in the deepest shite in my lifetime,(65),with a leviathan and malignant entity,zion,controlling America,and putting our nation in jeopardy constantly,for their interests and not ours.
Jill Stein, seems nice,but she aint going to cut it,only Trump can rescue US from these monsters.
Think of the massive debt the evil harridan will owe her zionist benefactors if she steals this election.And theft is the word,despite that garbage Obomba idiots new meme.
And Trump will owe them nada.
Of course Trump will be problematic,as his Iranian crap is dumb,and not all of his policies are going to be what one wants to hear,but those policies will for US,and not Israel.
The selection of HRC will only bring US disaster.
What really bugs me is the way people leap on MSM lies if they are about Trump like morons.Everything these criminals issue is a lie to some degree,and only the gullible would give them any credence,but such is prejudice.
My point is the establishment won’t *let* Trump win, no matter how many people vote for him. He’s right about that, just wrong about how it will be done if its necessary (in those places where a discrepancy exists between the actual result and what the elite want). I doubt they will accurately record the amount of votes for Jill Stein, for that matter, I just want as many as possible for her.
I agree HRC is a disaster, and extremely dangerous. Too dangerous to be acceptable.
I don’t think they can pull that off,the wholesale theft of this election,as I really believe that Trump will win handily,because his voter base is definitely not trusting of anything and everything our poohbahs spew.
We’ve had enough,and although the serial liars polls don’t show that support,just the fact of their hysteria,lies,and their coverup of the HBs long list of felonies is evidence that they aren’t sure of the voters mood.
Again,is the present worth keeping,as HRC is definitely more of the same,if not abysmally worse?
Imagine the chaos of her administration?
I just can’t fathom Americans,outside of phony concern trolls,voting for suicide.
There has never been a clearer choice in my lifetime.Freedom,or slavery.
It is not a particularly big undertaking, as propaganda and Trump’s misfires have done most of the work – remember that, as I said, the establishment just has to change the numbers of those (probably few) “places where a discrepancy exists between the actual result and what the elite want.”
Although he was talking about votes within the same Party, consider Stalin’s words, as related by Boris Bazhanov in Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary:
So your argument is the GOP with a great chance to win by running anyone other than Trump decided to throw the election.? And you think others arent making sensible arguments? Please.
No, my argument is that the establishment is ultimately an oligarchy-controlled duopoly, and Hillary Clinton has been selected to ‘win’ this election.
So all those super rich guys that donated millions to McCain and Romney secretly picked Obama? Please again. Your theory is not backed with evidence or logic.
My theory is completely logical, and the evidence is all around you in the camaraderie of neoconservatives aligning with Hillary (when they never would if Bernie had been the nominee), the congruence of her corporatist warmongering imperialism with traditionally Republican goals, and the resistance of almost all establishment media to any opposition or legitimate criticism of her. The oligarchy is a reality, and although many very rich people are influential, the actual elite who rule the establishment (and who influence who its political theater) are much richer and far more powerful than mere donors to campaigns.
Remember also that even the very rich who simply feed the charade are content with *either* Republican or Democratic corporatist, militarist and imperialist presidents, since both sold-out Parties will always serve the establishment and preserve the worsening status quo. Nevertheless, to repeat, Clinton has been selected this time, and that’s all there is to that.
typo: (and who influence
whoits political theater)And realize that *you* brought Obama into this discussion, not I, and I reasserted my point without referencing that election at all. Don’t assume I’m referring to all elections, as cheating is often not necessary and may well indeed not be needed this time (something you’d know if you’d read my posts carefully and not just pleaded with me), although all steps dirty and clean will be taken by the establishment to ensure the elite’s desire is manifest.
Nonsense, who are these nameless people?
Are you saying Fox news isnt anti hillary? Or are they not mainstream?
Face it you have nothing to back up your claims other than your paranioa. Saying “thats all thereis to that” is not logic or evidence.
I’m afraid your plea to vote for Stein is falling on deaf ears, for the most part.
Yeah, it’s pretty sad. Clinton and Trump fans don’t seem to care for my exhortations, but I think sometimes I’ve made an impression here and there. I’m not much of a salesgirl, admittedly, but I try to promote Jill even though it often seems the whirlwind drowns me out. To me, Dr. Stein represents sanity in a mad situation. A doomsday clock ticks louder and louder, and there’s little enough hope as it is.
Amen, Maisie. The thought of HRC or Trump having their finger on the nuclear trigger is frightening, indeed. I’m 72, so I’m not concerned so much for my future, but for folks like you and my 30 year-old son, who should have a future to embrace, not fear.
Judging by this comment alone, I would prefer Maisie to be writing content for The Intercept, rather than this animated GIF of an article by Mackey.
Only the Dems are allowed to whine about people (Russkies) rigging the elections.
Yah, that was thought after reading the article. The demon Russians with their almighty encoder rings were going to tip the results to Trump according the democratic party and every Hillary supporter. Hell, the president and Big Joe Biden even told the Russkis we fill fuck them back big time for their interference (which up to now if true is to expose information, rigging no systems, changing no results, etc.)
But you know, Trump is right in the sense that the only people who can cheat, rig, and defraud are Americans doing it to other Americans.
The US does have big problems with our system of voting, and given the shit about Russians and Trumps remarks, we will do nothing to fix the problems as it looks like one side or the another is ceding to the other’s bullshit.
This could have been an good article examining our voting systems, but naw….
“He knows he’s gonna lose and he is such a flagrant, toxic narcissist, that he wants to take down the entire democratic system with him if he goes.”
Poor Bruce, he doesn’t know the “entire (US) democratic system” circled the drain sometime ago.
Springsteen of the rust belt lament has no truck with Donald.
And he supports the Hell Bitch,Wow.
It makes playing his music somewhat iffy,as now all his words are nothing but hypocrisy,and just wealth generation.
I wonder how much pussy Bruce has grabbed?
Double sheesh.
What are you talking about? Why must you call someone a “Hell Bitch” that you disagree with? Haven’t your parents taught you basic civility? What do you mean by having no truck with Donald? Why do you insist on being crass?
i think any remark the president makes about trump sends him into a rage because he is that racist and hates the president that much. thank you mister president.
I have never seen Trump in a rage.
He might be bombastic,and loud,but he doesn’t rage.
He is a clearheaded American patriot,but I guess bubbleheads can’t see it.
And Obomba was and is an abysmal POTUS,destined for an F from historians,as the fires that raged on his beginning are now continental conflagrations,but who cares,Cuban cigars and rum will alleviate the pain.
What a wanker.
Black people have to vote hell bitch!man o man.
of course they agree…
as if we dont know that they were rigged before… and will again to favor our dear killary!
dont we just love the establishment!