Over the course of Donald Trump’s electoral campaign, the now president-elect repeatedly promised to turn Muslim Americans’ darkest fears into reality. Trump has suggested that under his administration, Muslims may be listed and recorded in a national database, forced to carry special identification cards, and subjected to intensified surveillance in their places of worship. Trump has also suggested that many Muslims could be banned from the United States wholesale, as part of a broader crackdown on immigration.
Trump’s proposals, however vile, at one time seemed almost too outlandish to be accepted by the American electorate. But now, the inconceivable has happened. Donald Trump, the former reality-TV host and real estate mogul, has gone from dark-horse GOP primary candidate to the president-elect of the United States. With Republicans retaining control of Congress, the future President Trump has a mandate to turn many of his proposals into reality.
While many communities have good reason to fear a Trump presidency, for Muslim Americans the fears are particularly immediate. Not only is Trump openly hostile to them, roughly half of American voters have either accepted his message of hatred and xenophobia, or otherwise helped abet it. During the primaries, strong majorities in many states expressed direct support for Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from the country.
The revelation that there is such widespread, demonstrable popular support in the United States for drumming Muslims out of society has been chilling for many.
“I grew up in New England, in a community that was worldly, educated, and prosperous — but the last time I was there, I saw more Trump signs than I could believe. That wasn’t about economics. It was about tribe, race, and privilege,” says Haroon Moghul, a Muslim activist and fellow at the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding. “I’m afraid for my family and for Muslim Americans generally. To use a cultural reference we can all understand: We feel like we just got voted off the island. Now all we’re doing is waiting for when, and how, they’ll show us out.”
“Will it happen gradually, or all at once? Will it be late at night when no one is watching, or in the middle of the day, to chants of ‘USA, USA’?”
Faiza Ali, a community organizer in Brooklyn, says she was “shocked and terrified” by the results of the election. Like many others, she fears that Trump’s anti-Muslim political platform will lead to the mainstreaming of Islamophobia within American society. “An unabashed bigot who has called for the banning of Muslims and the shutting down of mosques was elected president. When he was running his campaign, there was no place for Muslims in Trump’s America. What does this mean for us now?”
Since Trump’s election, a number of hate crimes targeting visibly Muslim women have been investigated across the country. Many fear that such incidents are only a harbinger of future discrimination, now legitimized by the bigotry of the president-elect himself.
“I fear for communities of color and Muslims, especially women who wear hijab,” Ali says. “Trump ran a campaign based on fear and hate, and without a doubt, fear and hate is exactly what won on Tuesday.”
While the shock of Trump’s election is still reverberating, some Muslim American activists say that Trump’s presidency may offer a small silver lining: the opportunity to forge alliances with other communities to defend civil liberties in the United States. After 15 years of being at the forefront of surveillance and harassment by the FBI, NSA, and other federal government agencies, Muslim Americans are hopeful that the widespread shock over Trump’s election will offer an opportunity to build new alliances with other civil society groups, while turning more Americans against Islamophobia.
“Americans have to understand that when Muslims were depicted as a national security threat to legislate against, with measures like the Patriot Act and NDAA being passed as a result, everyone lost their civil liberties, not just us,” says Maytha Alhassen, a PhD researcher in American studies and ethnicity at the University of Southern California. “By painting us as an unrelatable community, disconnected from American values, the government made it easy for Americans to vote against their own interests.”
Back in the early post-9/11 period, the Bush administration expanded government powers, including domestic surveillance and watchlisting. The Obama administration has continued and entrenched these measures, which have been accepted by many on the basis of national security. In general, the targets of the most draconian security policies have been Muslims. An NYPD surveillance program that conducted blanket surveillance on Muslim neighborhoods in New York and New Jersey and a national program that permitted the surveillance of Muslim American civil society leaders are among the many examples.
The fact that such programs were revealed largely during a relatively popular Democratic administration blunted much popular criticism. But under a GOP president as divisive, threatening, and bellicose as Trump, there may be an opportunity for a coordinated push against such policies.
“We had a lot of work to do no matter who won the presidency. Many policies were already in place that were targeting our community, but now the landscape has fundamentally changed,” says Mohammad Khan, campaign manager at MPower Change, a Muslim grassroots advocacy organization.
Khan says that his organization is bracing for the worst after Trump’s election. He describes the atmosphere of fear among Muslim Americans today as similar to the aftermath of the attacks on September 11, 2001.
“I think we’re going to have to operate in a manner similar to opposition parties living under authoritarian regimes. We expect organizations and leaders to be targeted for harassment and legal measures in the coming years, as well as wider crackdowns on public assembly and dissent,” Khan says. “A crackdown is coming to civil society in general, and on Muslims in particular, whether they engage in activism or not.”
The sweep of this crackdown may help Muslim Americans gain more public support on issues affecting their community. “In a crisis moment like this, other communities may realize how Islamophobia has been used as a justification to expand the coercive power of the government,” Khan says. “That can bring a sense of unity between different groups who share a fear of being targeted by this administration.”
Over the course of a long, divisive campaign, Trump has succeeded in alienating vast swaths of American society. His attacks against the press and the judiciary have strongly suggested that his administration will seek to govern in a bullying, authoritarian fashion. With the vastly expanded executive powers bequeathed to him by the Obama administration, Trump stands ready to inherit a presidential office of unprecedented historical power.
“For years we have been warning of the sheer magnitude of a government that has militarized the police, dramatically expanded secrecy, and normalized suspicionless surveillance,” says Naureen Shah, director of national security and human rights at Amnesty International. “We’re now seeing growing consciousness of how we’re all affected by these aggressive and abusive security measures.”
Top photo: Children from Al-Rahmah school wait for President Barack Obama during his visit to the Islamic Society of Baltimore on Feb. 3, 2016, in Baltimore, Maryland.
Muslims defiant? No way! Really?
Here’s an idea, let’s bring millions and millions more “defiant” people here to the USA. We still won’t anyone to fix my car properly but the good news is we’ll have millions of defiant people here.
Why do Muslims want to live here? What makes the US an attractive place for them to live?
Upward Mobility
Higher Living Standards
Personal & Religious Freedom
Functioning Civil Society
Law & Order
What else?
Between Clinton and Trump, Muslims were either going to see their innocent fellow Muslims abroad bombed some more, or they were going to face persecution at home. Gary Johnson and Jill Stein would have done neither, but people who vote or profess support for third parties are “targeted for harassment and legal measures… as well as wider crackdowns on public assembly and dissent.” Hell of a choice the so-called “two-party system” gave them.
In addition to resisting Trump and his administration, we need to call for electoral reform in every state, so perhaps in 2020, reason and dignity might have a chance at winning instead of getting less than 5% of the vote.
Love the sinner, hate the sin. The Bible teaches that. The Quran teaches otherwise. Either you convert, or you’re an infidel and shall die. The US constitution and sharia law travel in the opposite direction, and therefore these ideals will never, ever have peace. Allahs direction is for his followers to assimilate until their numbers are strong enough to overtake their enemy, and again; the enemy of Islam is anyone who is not of their faith. Period. Get a clue folks. The only way any Muslim should be allowed to live in the USA is for them to openly denounce Sharia law and sign a declaration and promise to submit to the constitution. They will never do that, so this problem never a goes away; it can only be managed.
Looks like Hockey Fan got all his info about the worlds 1.6 billion Muslims from his favorite alt-right Muslim hate sites. Must be true then.
The biggest divide I have with my Muslim friends is the same I have with my Jewish friends, pizza toppings.
So does that mean Christians should do the same concerning the Old Testament? The vast majority of Muslims ignore the crazier parts of their holy book just as much as Christians do. Now why don’t YOU start submitting to the US Constitution, particularly the First Amendment that you are ignoring?
How could anyone be held true to any renunciation in a venue of deception. Kind of a Chinese finger puzzle. Almost Luciferian in its in-your-face guilt washing while wrecking chaos and havoc coast to coast. If you look close to the edges, you can see where the chains of your bondage are forged for your application knowing full well that there is little, if anything, the individual targets will be allowed to do within the civil niceties of the pc world. This election was the full monty.
“Muslims in Trump’s America” – he isn’t President yet. They haven’t exactly been treated kindly by Obama. And their lives are pretty damn nice compared to Syrians, Yemenis, Palestinians, Iraqis and soon-to-be Iranians; all of whom are victims of America and its allies.
The irony in America now is that all those judges and politicians who chose to turn a blind eye to Obama’s crimes may suddenly get a “conscience” of sorts and act to block Trump.
But The Intercept should stop lumping all Muslims together – I am sure the money men get more than fair treatment and some get to do whatever they like.
Be interesting to see what Trump’s stance on Saudi Arabia is.
According to al-Jazeera, three hospitals in Northern Syria were bombed by jets of unknown origin (Syrian or Russian).
“………Three hospitals in rebel-held areas of northern Syria have been hit by air raids in the past 24 hours, leaving medical staff and patients wounded, a monitor said on Tuesday…… Among the wounded were patients who had been moved there after a hospital in the nearby village of Kafr Naha was hit on Monday, the Britain-based monitoring group said…….”
Trump talked with Putin yesterday and Trump promised to cooperate with Russia on the war on terror. Whether this new cooperative effort includes targeting hospitals in east Aleppo is not known.
Doug Salzmann
“…….I’ve been following this fairly closely since the origins of this mess around the time of the Arab Spring (leaving aside, for the moment, the apparent decision by Western powers that “Assad has to go” in the wake of Syria’s decision to support the “wrong” oil pipeline). I’m not aware of any credible evidence that the 2014 election was less valid than any number of elections under difficult and/or chaotic circumstances that the US and its allies have no trouble accepting…….”
Tens of thousands of detainees have died in detention from the Assad regime. Currently, an estimated 200,000 people are being held by the regime in detention centers – and you wonder why people might vote for Assad rather than a couple of hand-picked opponents? I doubt a single voter was intimidated. Of course, by your reasoning, the US should be held responsible for war crimes committed by Syria and Russia anyway (http://aje.io/na86).
“While the shock of Trump’s election is still reverberating, some Muslim American activists say that Trump’s presidency may offer a small silver lining: the opportunity to forge alliances with other communities to defend civil liberties in the United States. After 15 years of being at the forefront of surveillance and harassment by the FBI, NSA, and other federal government agencies, Muslim Americans are hopeful that the widespread shock over Trump’s election will offer an opportunity to build new alliances with other civil society groups, while turning more Americans against Islamophobia.”
This I thought was the most important part of this article. The harassment of American Muslims by law enforcement is a Bush, Clinton, Obama legacy.
I am sure the US Constitution and the US Supreme Court will prevent Trump from doing much more damage, But American Muslims need to invoke constitutional remedies to safeguard their rights. Why were they ignored by liberals during Obama’s 8 years? Besides her election rhetoric, what steps did Hillary and Obama actually take while in office to reduce targeting and harassment of American Muslims by law enforcement?
An innocent teenage Muslim girl holding a tiny American flag is hardly the face of defiance….
Oh, but wait, I get it! She is suppose to be emblematic of future Muslim Americans. Nothing to fear here folks. No siree Bob! Pay no attention to the numerous academic studies that universally cite the multi-generational problem of Muslim assimilation into EU countries. And let’s simply forget the Pew poll that revealed a majority of Muslim immigrants polled preferred being ruled by Sharia law in their host EU nations. Oh, and let’s also ignore the Pew poll that revealed a significant minority (average mean) of Muslims from the twenty-one countries polled see suicide bombing as “often or sometimes justified” when used in defense of their faith. Although Syria was not among the 21 countries polled by Pew, more than three in ten Muslim participants whose countries were in closest regional proximity to Syria consider suicide bombings to be justified when used in defense of their faith. And of course there is the nasty problem of reported rape of European women by foreign born Muslim men who have not yet learned that western styles of dress are not an open invitation to their violent sexual aggression.
Then there is the longstanding practice of American industry using immigrant labor as a counter balance to the rise of organized (skilled) labor that must be overlooked. And of course there is the neoliberal goal of undermining the nativist sensibilities of America’s dominant (white Christian) demographic by means of flooding predominantly white, working class, urban areas with peoples of deeply disparate languages and cultures that must be overlooked.
Ok then, now I am ready to discuss how the purported national security threat of Islamic extremism has Americans voting against their own interests in a post 911 world. But before we go there… one last thing: Weren’t the attacks of 911 perpetrated by adherents to a radical form of Islam that opposes democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs? Weren’t the 911 attacks aided by America’s principle gulf Arab ally, Saudi Arabia? Didn’t the Bush Family enjoy a longstanding business relationship with members of both the Saud and bin Laden families in the run-up to the attacks? Weren’t the Saudis being used at that time as as the mean by which pan-Arab aspirations were being funneled into a Saudi-led regional trade block (GCC) whose ultimate aim was to facilitate the integration of Sharia based economics with that of the west? And to that end, weren’t the Saudis tasked to spread an ultraconservative form of Sunni Islam (Wahhabism) with the intention of it being militarized by the West in its cold war against the USSR? And didn’t the US state department aide the Saudis in constructing thousands of madrassas throughout the middle east and across Asia in the effort to supplant more benign forms of Islam with Wahhabism? And hasn’t the Saudi’s puritanical Wahhabi doctrine spread to Syria where it is currently being used as the foundation for ISIS ideology and its belief in the imminent emergence of a global caliphate? And aren’t these radicalized Muslims being trained and funded by the west to fight in a proxy war against Assad and Soviet interests in the region? Oh… And hasn’t Obama recently proposed raising the quota of US bound Syrian refugees by 300%?
Isn’t it just possible that the potential influx of radicalized Sunni Muslim refugees from Syria into American society is intended to result in the type of violence that would further encourage Americans to vote against their own interests?
The overall tone of comments here suggests that Muslim Americans have every reason to be concerned. If Trump engages in the bigoted and despicable actions and policies he has promoted during the campaign, it appears that far too many Americans will be unconcerned about the shameful discrimination.
I can’t do a whole lot to change this ugly picture, but I can certainly visit my local mosque and declare solidarity with our Muslim brothers and sisters. I’ll do that more often, and I shall hope others will do likewise.
“First, they came for the Muslims. . .”
Mona
“……..Sufi Muslim had said some months ago she no longer felt comfortable commenting here. And so many others have been lost. It’s a damn shame but management apparently doesn’t care……”
The implications of this statement are obvious. Free speech or not Mona?
Mr. Hussain
The backlash against Muslims in the west is unfortunate. High profile terrorist attacks like Charlie Hebdo, the Paris Attacks, Orlando, 7-7 and of course 911 have made the situation very difficult for Muslims living in America and elsewhere. Additionally, significant support for sharia law among Muslims (France and Britain, in particular) as well as immigration of Muslims from very different and less tolerant cultures have done little to ease the suspicions of westerners. Muslims in Europe, especially, have not assimilated. The assaults of German women on New Year ’s Eve by as many as 1000 immigrant Muslim men from North Africa and the Middle East only increased fear in the native population. Worse still are the plights of innocent Muslims located primarily in the greater Middle East that are the targets of Islamic terrorist attacks – like in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Syria. Muslims are the highest priority targets for Islamic terrorists. Much of the killing is sectarian-based.
If you were to isolate the US, there would be little reason outside of 911 to take some of the intrusive measures by the Federal government, but – globally – there has clearly been a worrying trend of Islamic extremism and terrorism which has raised suspicions on Muslims world-wide. The measures and discrimination directed at the US Muslim population amounts to collective punishment, but, unfortunately, it is the global body of work by Islamic extremists which has caused the backlash.
They’re Coming To Take Me Away
Napoleon XIV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXOwNOf2QXY
Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees
And begged you not to leave
Because I’d go beserk
Well you left me anyhow
And then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I’ve gone
Completely out of my mind
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
They’re coming to take me away ho-ho hee-hee ha-haaa
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
You thought it was a joke
And so you laughed
You laughed when I said
That losing you would make me flip my lid
Right?
You know you laughed
I heard you laugh, you laughed
You laughed and laughed and then you left
But now you know I’m utterly mad
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
They’re coming to take me away ho-ho hee-hee ha-haaa
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
I cooked your food
I cleaned your house
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind unselfish, loving deeds
Ha! Well you just wait
They’ll find you yet and when they do
They’ll put you in the A.S.P.C.A.
You mangy mutt
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa
They’re coming to take me away ha-haaa ho-ho hee-hee
To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time
And I’ll be happy to see those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they’re coming to take me away
To the happy home with trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’re coming to take me away ha-haaa!
Americans may be too tolerant:
https://phoenixgrp.com/nightshade/Chaplains_Manual_-_Satanism.html
How women are typically treated in dominantly Muslim societies offers some evidence about how Muslims prefer women should be treated.
How gays are typically treated in dominantly Muslim societies offers some evidence of how Muslims prefer gays should be treated.
How religious dissidents are treated in dominantly Muslim societies offers some evidence of how Muslims prefer religious dissidents should be treated.
How converts to other religions from Islam are treated in dominantly Muslim societies offers some evidence of how Muslims prefer converts should be treated.
Murder directed by religious authorities is often the price exacted on any who dare cross the many lines laid down by Islam and Sharia, in particular. Everyone knows this, but many seem immune to reality sinking into their consciences.
All of these and other observed practices, defended on grounds of “Islamic” belief, are directly contrary to liberal Western values. And surely the punishments likewise.
Yet westerners are persistently urged to simply disregard these plainly obvious beliefs and practices. We are instructed that we should instead accept vocal protestations (not only from Muslims) that Muslims actually do not hold any of the beliefs which sponsor these practices in societies from which they immigrate. Nor are we to pay any attention to practices which plainly spring from these beliefs.
Really? We are asked to be blind to reality. It staggers the imagination.
This obvious contradiction of logic and observation is further freighted by majority support from Muslims recently polled in the US:
BEGIN QUOTE
According to the just-released survey of Muslims, a majority (51%) agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah.” When that question was put to the broader U.S. population, the overwhelming majority held that shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution (86% to 2%).
More than half (51%) of U.S. Muslims polled also believe either that they should have the choice of American or shariah courts, or that they should have their own tribunals to apply shariah. Only 39% of those polled said that Muslims in the U.S. should be subject to American courts.
These notions were powerfully rejected by the broader population according to the Center’s earlier national survey. It found by a margin of 92%-2% that Muslims should be subject to the same courts as other citizens, rather than have their own courts and tribunals here in the U.S.
Even more troubling, is the fact that nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”
By contrast, the broader survey found that a 63% majority of those sampled said that “the freedom to engage in expression that offends Muslims or anybody else is guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and cannot be restricted.”
END QUOTE
Source: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/youll-be-shocked-with-how-many-american-muslims-want-sharia-law/
If that reflects the MAJORITY belief among Muslims already here, then we have a precise definition of why we should have never allowed them to enter the country as permanent residents. Visiting Disneyland is one thing. Becoming voting citizens is something else entirely.
Perhaps the most interesting “tell” is the oft-repeated assurance by some Muslims to assure us US law is the most “Sharia compliant” in the world. Presumably they believe this should bring us great joy.
That assumption, of course, betrays a belief that Sharia is the standard against which our legal system is to be measured. What they don’t get is that we make the judgment whether Shari measures up to our legal (and social) standards.
And the truth is, it fails miserably. Unless, of course, you favor having women running around in black pup-tents with slits for eye-holes so they can navigate. And people murdered for drawing a cartoon of The Prophet.
Are these people seriously expecting us to put up with that nonsense? Yes, actually they are and will never get the message as long as they remain here:
We are not morally or legally obliged to admit anyone arriving from other countries, and least of all any who are likely to muddy the carpet when they amble through the door.
Those unfit should be officially dis-invited and assisted to find a new location elsewhere on the planet which is amicable to their preposterously Medieval values.
Trump says a lot of things. The reality? Travel bans on countries with terrorist activity. Increase in domestic spying on Muslims. We’re not going to have a repeat of Nazi Germany because it’s impractical. Islam is a religion. A thought construct. And you can’t police ways of thinking, not in this country.
Stop worrying about Trump and worry about the system that is perpetuating the war in Muslim countries. This is bigger than who is in office.
If one group should have been against Clinton, it is Muslims. I didn’t hear complaining when during the last debate, she stated that Muslims should watch and report each other.
As long as the people who create the wars and the refugees run the world, you will always have this.
Also, stop fear mongering. Many of those reports in NYT were found to be false.
And how dare you suggest that people who voted against Clinton are Islamaphobes.
The hope I would reserve here is that there is a long way between being anti-Islamic and suppressing Islam in an un-American way. I mean yes, Trump is going to push against Muslims in ways that go beyond what civil libertarians can accept, and that is not a good thing! But I think in doing so this is a now-familiar variant of cops off the leash rather than people believing in a state religion.
I think many people believe that as Americans they should have the right to stand around the water cooler and say that Muhammad was a thief, a pedophile, a killer of poets and so on, because after all he was. Certainly nobody should have to worry about getting fired from their job, let alone having their house insurance revoked and then having the bank declare the conditions on the loan are breached and take away their church, because they were spotted burning a Koran on YouTube. This is a matter of rights. But people who believe in rights don’t want to see mosques banned or Muslims subjected to criminal police harassment without any motive but to punish their religious beliefs.
The tough part surrounds the abuses that actually happen: federal agents infiltrating religious groups, demanding that Muslims become informers or get harassed every time they try to fly, harassment and bias in zoning decisions and so forth. Discrimination. America, unfortunately, has a long history of discrimination. But in that history there has usually been a line drawn between using malicious laws in evil ways and simply outright abandoning the legal framework. So, with some effort, the excesses of the Trump believers should be beaten back. No, there’s not going to be any hundred thousand Syrians coming into the U.S., but the constitution ought to stay.
This article makes it sound like Trump is ready to start demanding Muslims wear yellow crescents. But the source is an indirect link to a Yahoo article ( https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-has-big-plans-1303117537878070.html ) that paraphrases an interview. Unless there’s something big I’m missing, what Yahoo prints is only that:
Now this sounds absolutely horrifying, but what’s not clear from this is exactly what Yahoo’s reporter said. What Trump said was a very generic response, something he might say after an unclear question. So I’m very skeptical of these words being stuffed in his mouth. He didn’t volunteer this idea, and it certainly seems like a leap to think the reporter just guessed that’s what Trump really wanted and said it out loud for the first time!
FYI http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/20/donald-trump-says-hed-absolutely-require-muslims-to-register/
And you believe what the New York Times prints? The bastion of globalists, the great liars, lol
Well, the same New York Times printed this article later – http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/21/us/politics/donald-trump-sets-off-a-furor-with-call-to-register-muslims-in-the-us.html?ref=first-draft – which says that Trump went on to say that the database “would stop people coming in illegally”, suggesting he had been under the impression something else had been asked. He discounted the idea as having been introduced by a reporter and blaring music was mentioned.
I am appalled by some of the things that Trump has volunteered on his own, but I think that trying to stuff some idea into his mouth that a reporter made up to play gotcha is not helping. If we prepare our minds to oppose threats that don’t exist, it just distracts us from the ones that do exist — like the fire sale on public lands we can expect over the next four years. There will be some rigged process to make sure ordinary people never have a chance to buy that land and it gets handed off to the richest for a song, people who have all the right credentials and demonstrated cash reserves to get into some auction you’ll never hear about until they put up the No Trespassing signs, and nobody’s going to be watching that, because they’re too busy waiting for the yellow crescents.
You want to know what’s worse? People are stupid when they get hating. If people associate Arabic with Islam, they won’t just go after Muslims- they may go after Coptic Christians and other Christians from the Middle East. If people go after those who wear turbans, they not only target (some) Muslims, but also Sikhs. Both cases happened after 9/11.
I’m not in any of the above categories, but I know quite a few people who are- and I’m quite frankly scared for them.
Of course if I were Muslim this would scare the crap out of me.
https://theintercept.com/2015/06/25/fort-dix-five-terror-plot-the-real-story/
For comentors below
If you believe in freedom of speech and expression, how comes you insist on forcing your own values only. Muslims, Jews, Mormons and even Native Americans have a dress code they may prefer. Just because they don’t believe in exposing themselves in public doesn’t mean they have no freedoms.
Actually they have something you may never have or understand, MORALS AND ETHICS!
I’m a Muslim, a woman and an immigrant. I voted for Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/
There are always native informants. During Nazi era, there were some Jews who collaborated with the Nazis.
here is what i dont get
how is it that a muslim type which has women at home or wearing spooky halloween tents in public, cant wear bikinis to the beach, nor business suits, is not contrary to life liberty and pursuit of happiness and clearly contrary to American law?
Discrimination based on being Muslim is wrong and must be legally punished in accordance with a secular jurisprudence – not the Sharia. “Islamophobia” is a confusing term that hurts more than it helps.
Ditch the “Islamophobia” term and you will do more good for your cause.
Hitler did the same to the Jews and Americans and the rest of the world was up in arms.
Now Americans have voted in a modern Hitler. The US no longer has the right to claim its position among developed modern states. It’s just another Nazi German in a different dress. Hail Trump
The problem Murtaza Hussain has is sprinkled liberally throughout this article.
Muslim Americans. You are putting you religion first and American citizenship last. Instead of saying I’m a Muslim American blahblahblah. Just say you are an American and leave it there. Nobody needs to know what religion you are.
You keep shoving your religion in other people’s face, when most Americans don’t really care. They are more concerned with making money and getting ahead in life. Also, American citizens have rights under the constitution. This doesn’t that you will always be treated right. It means that if you are treated badly, you have redress under law. If you are a citizen, you have these rights period. Immigration is a privilege not right. You don’t have the “right” to immigrate to this country.
I don’t want to hear about your stupidfuckingreligion and how fearful you all are. This is America. Land of the Free Home of the Brave, not a nation of sniveling, whiny little bitches. And I’d say the same thing to anybody else who keeps trying to throw their stupidfuckingreligion in my face.
Just get a grip, go out and make some money. You are probably not getting treated much worse than anyone else.
Similarly German Jews had equal rights as German citizens till Hitler came along.
This incoherent babble is typical of those who are vehemently against muslims and other minorities. The lack of structured arguments, poor grammar and rhetorical fallacies are an indication of the source of such hatred.
Sheer ignorance and a lack of education.
This incoherent babble is typical of those who are vehemently against muslims and other minorities. The lack of structured arguments, poor grammar and rhetorical fallacies are an indication of the source of such hatred.
Sheer ignorance and a lack of education.
How many accounts do you have UScitizen and ConcernedCitizen?
“Just get a grip, go out and make some money.”
The legendary American pragmatism …
The vast majority of Muslims living in America should have nothing to be afraid of. It is a very peaceful religion. Trump’s goal is to help them weed out lawbreakers and terrorists which is only a tiny number. We all benefit by that. It is the DNC that has something to fear until they get on board and help unify the country instead of dividing it.
It is unfair to blame Trump ( or Trump only ) for the wave of Islamophobia in America…ever since 9/11there have been attacks on people even barely looking Muslims…attacks on Sikhs only because they are wearing Turbans where not uncommon…Obama even les Hillary Clinton did not do much to educate Americans that Islam is NOT equal to Terrorism…on the contrary they let it linger in order to justify the Libian and Siria civil wars etc…
Trump is harvesting the harvest sown by Bush and the 8 years of Obama administration…
Endless surveys in Europe have shown that a majority of Muslims, without fail, put the laws of their (very legally-inclined) religion above the laws of the nation they live in.
Believe it or not, “Islamophobia” is not the biggest issue of our times. Rather the religion and the violence/hatred it is inspiring *is*.
When Muslims are a minority they are obsessed with minority rights. And in nations with a Muslim majority THERE ARE NO MINORITY RIGHTS.
Simply stated, Islam is incompatible with Western culture
Wrong. Some Muslim nations have little-to-no rights for Muslims, like Saudi Arabia. Others allow more freedom of worship and other things, from Malaysia to Syria.
Even though they have been living here for many, many years?
It’s a bit much to ask Muslim Americans who have been born in the US and have never laid foot in any Muslim majority country to fix the laws there.