Mike Pompeo, Donald Trump’s pick to lead the Central Intelligence Agency, has at times depicted the fight against terrorism as a war between radical Muslims, on one side, and the Christian faith on the other.
“This threat to America,” Pompeo told a church group in Wichita in 2014, is from a minority of Muslims “who deeply believe that Islam is the way and the light and the only answer.”
“They abhor Christians,” Pompeo said, “and will continue to press against us until we make sure that we pray and stand and fight and make sure that we know that Jesus Christ is our savior is truly the only solution for our world.”
At an event last year sponsored by the Westminster Institute, a Virginia-based think tank, an audience member asked why President Obama wants Iran “to win,” and whether such sympathies came from “new leftism or socialism or pro-Muslim” ideas.
Pompeo didn’t reject the idea. He said he had “made a commitment to my wife that I would stop trying to get into Barack Obama’s head. You know, to reduce our psychiatric care bill.” Still talking about Obama, Pompeo said that “just as with any leader, their intentions and motivations are very important to understand. Right? It requires you to apply a rational approach to thinking about this and I for the life of me cannot come up with a rational approach for him.”
He continued: “Every time there has been a conflict between the Christian west and the Islamic east, the data points all point to a singular direction. You asked me why. That gets trickier, right? It is very clear that this administration — and when I say that, a very narrow slice inside the leadership regime here in Washington has concluded that America is better off with greater Iranian influence certainly in the Middle East, but I think around — certainly it’s tolerated around the world. But if you ask me why they think that, I’ve listened to them intently and I cannot with any certainty provide you an answer to that.”
At an evangelical church in his district that specializes in addressing “Satanism and paranormal activity” — and standing in front of a Christian flag — Pompeo in 2015 spoke of the “struggle against radical Islam, the kind of struggle this country has not faced since its great wars.” He warned that “evil is all around us,” citing reports of terror plots, and cautioned the congregation not to be deterred by those who might call them “Islamophobes or bigots.”
The Kansas lawmaker is best known in the national media for his zealous investigations of Hillary Clinton’s response to the 2012 attack on the U.S. government facility in Benghazi and as a reliable voice in support of the intelligence agencies. He has pushed for broad National Security Agency powers and supports interrogation techniques broadly viewed as torture.
He’s also a fervent supporter of Koch Industries, sponsoring energy legislation backed by the company, while publicly defending the firm’s controversial billionaire owners from public criticism.
But less has been reported on Pompeo’s history of blending religion and politics.
Earlier this year, the congressman shocked the Islamic Society of Wichita, a local mosque in his district, by publishing a statement denouncing the group for inviting a speaker he alleged had ties to Hamas. The speaker had spoken four times to the mosque in the past without incident.
But Pompeo, in his statement, released without prior notice to the mosque, charged that the Islamic Society of Wichita’s event was an insult because it coincided with the Christian holiday of Good Friday, and that if the mosque failed to rescind the invitation, they would be “responsible for the damage among religious faiths that is sure to follow.”
Local Facebook groups planned to protest the mosque in response, leading Hussam Madi, the spokesman for the local Islamic Society, to cancel the event.
Pompeo told the Wichita Eagle that he had been tipped off about the event by a call, but declined to reveal the source of the information. In April, the month after the incident, Pompeo appeared on Secure Freedom Radio, a program hosted by anti-Muslim campaigner Frank Gaffney, to boast that he had used Gaffney’s organization as a resource to research the speaker. Gaffney is notorious for spreading fears about Muslims, claiming absurdly that President Obama is “still” a Muslim, that Gov. Chris Christie had committed “treason” for appointing a Muslim judge. He runs a website that claims that Islam is not a religion, but a political ideology bent on destroying Western civilization.
In 2013, following the Boston Marathon bombings, Pompeo launched an attack on Muslim leaders, claiming that the Muslim American community had refused to denounce the attacks. “Mr. Speaker, it’s been just under two months since the attacks in Boston, and in those intervening weeks, the silence of Muslim leaders has been deafening,” Pompeo said. The silence, he added, made Muslim leaders “potentially complicit” in terror attacks.
As activist Anai Rhoads noted in the Huffington Post, Muslim leaders worked closely with law enforcement to thwart potential attacks, and there were many statements denouncing the Boston bombing by the largest Muslim organizations in the U.S. immediately following the attack.
Rhoads wrote: “The Boston attacks occurred on April 15 at approximately 2:49 p.m. The Universal Muslim Association of America spoke out against the attacks at 5:17 p.m.; the Muslim Public Affairs Council at 5:53 p.m.; the Council on American-Islamic Relations [CAIR] 7:46 p.m.; the Muslim Peace Coalition 8 p.m. and the Muslim American Society Public Affairs and Engagement 10:52 p.m. The only organization which moderately delayed a response was the Islamic Society of North America, and that was 12:09 a.m. on April 16.”
CAIR called for an apology, but Pompeo, in a statement, said he was “not backing down.”
The Kansas lawmaker has frequently appeared on Christian right radio, including on a program hosted by the Family Research Council — a group, like Gaffney’s, that has promoted fears about Islam. Pompeo is an opponent of gay marriage, and was among a handful of legislators to demand that the Air Force return the phrase “so help me God” to its military oath.
In first bid for office in 2010, Pompeo’s campaign tweeted a link to a blog that mocked his Democratic opponent, Raj Goyle, with a racial slur and said that Goyle, a local state lawmaker, “could be a muslim a hindu, a buddhist, who knows … One thing’s for sure … goyle is not a Christian!” Pompeo called Goyle to apologize, blaming the tweet on a staffer, but declined to fire the staff member responsible for the communication.
Since moving to Capitol Hill, Pompeo has participated in the Monday evening evangelical bible study for members of Congress sponsored by Ralph Drollinger, a clergyman who has courted controversy by lashing out at gays and calling Catholicism the “world’s largest false religion.” Drollinger’s group has been sponsored by Christian right lawmakers including Michele Bachmann, Steve King, and Louie Gohmert.
Drollinger’s Members Bible Study includes a study guide declaring: “NOT EVERY MUSLIM IS A TERRORIST BUT EVERY INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST IN RECENT HISTORY HAS BEEN A MUSLIM.” Drollinger’s guide argues that the Bible teaches that “there is no way America or Israel should tolerate uranium enrichment programs in any theocratic Muslim country.” The guide also claims “that Islam and its Koran are nothing more than a plagiarism of OT truths,” a reference to the Old Testament, “and a non-chronological, sloppy one at that — topped off with a falsified diminution of Jesus Christ.”
After the announcement last Friday that Pompeo will be nominated as the director of the CIA, Drollinger released an exuberant message on his website. Pompeo, along with Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., Trump’s nominee for the position of attorney general, and Mike Pence, the vice president-elect, are all “long time sponsors of the Members Bible Studies” it noted.
“It follows then that the sudden rise of Pence, Sessions, and Pompeo — all men who are disciples of Jesus Christ — serve to vividly illustrate the truth of 1 Timothy 2:1-4!” Drollinger said. That passage calls for “supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks” for “all people” including “kings and all those in authority”.
Drollinger continued: “Suddenly these men who have been discipled by the Church are in prominent positions of authority to change the course of America in ways that are biblical.”
Top photo: Pompeo during a break in testimony at a closed-door hearing of the House Benghazi Committee in October 2015.
In a perfect world, truth is worshiped and everyone fights for it.
It all works on fear & Guilt & some make tons of money peddling superstition(s). The fundies landed in Plymouth, MA(Plymouth Colony was founded by a group of people English separatists who later came to be known as the Pilgrims) & Jamestown, VA… (The first representative assembly in English North America convened in the Jamestown church on July 30, 1619. The General Assembly met in response to orders from the Virginia Company “to establish one equal and uniform government over all Virginia” and provide “just laws for the happy guiding and governing of the people there inhabiting.” A few weeks later came the first arrival of Africans to Jamestown. These Africans became indentured servants, similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen who traded several years of labor in exchange for passage to America. (The legal system of race-based chattel slavery did not fully develop in Virginia until the 1680s.) It’s the folks whom half believe that give cover for the fundies, both Christian and Muslim. Trump might be harsh, but he’s not a Mormon like Mittens that’s why the GOP won this time around and not 2012. Thank the selfish I want it now peeps for Trump. Now we’ll get Chuck Schumer (D) NY religious liberty bills that Hobby Lobby loves and the like out of Trump and his coat tails with Mike Pence & his fellowship fundies… like… Betsy DeVos, his neighbor to the north. (IN. / MI.). Now we’ll get a SCOTUS to interpret the laws accordingly. I’ve only got about 20 years left and simply see it as another bump in the road towards our human evolution. That’s as long as no fundy takes me or us sooner. :)
I’m confused…you’re worried about pilgrims carting you off to the stockade??
Ignoring the religious component of terrorism is foolishness.
Agreed…so is mistaking a base cultural component for a religious one.
“Ignoring the religious component of terrorism is foolishness.” Very true!!! Image how they feel in the Middle East with the Christian Americans destroying so much over there. They must be scared shitless, and now that we stirred up ISIS, they’re getting it from near and far. If you don’t think the jeebus salvation army foreseen this, I got a bridge… :) payback is a bitch. When you don’t own drones and laser guided missiles, You have no choices but to fight dirty… and that’s just what they’ll do…
Don’t confuse money for Christ. The US isn’t bombing for God…it’s for the big bucks. And that’s what they worship: money.
This is not a religious war. It’s an Orwellian theatre built on money/power preservation. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of Abrahamic religions knows that theologically, Christians have more in common with muslims than do Christians and Jews; yet ‘Christianity is at war with Islam’ and Israel is one the strongest cultural, political, geographical, and theological allies of the US.
Coordinated distracting nonsense.
I wish we never made up god.
sweet trollin..
Just stating a fact. Shit gets old.
Are you sure you know what ‘fact’ means?
Sure. We made up god. Fact.
So, no…you don’t.
Ironically, your atheism requires and exudes about as much dogmatic faith as an evangelical or the pope. When you decide to replace your faith with science, you’ll find yourself an agnostic.
He’s mostly right about Islam but his focus on Christianity is a sign of mental illness rendering him unfit.
He’s probably right except for the fact that warmongers like Mike Pompeo are the furthest thing from Christianity.
Now, if he’s talking about white supremacist superiority, that is totally consistent with the racist, KKK-endorsed Donald Trump rotted ideology and his Apartheid Republican Party.
What is this guy going to do when he realises that the US in the guise of The US State department and the Central Intelligence Agency were the ones that funded Al Nusra Front in actions that killed Christians in Syria and were responsible through that action for the birth of ISIS, What will he do when he finds out that Senator John Mccain went to Syria and MET with the Leaders of Al Nusra (and ISIS as they had not yet split)!
Look the other way.
how do you accept a “religion” that supports and enforces shari law all around the world wherever islam has over 50% of population? killing of gays, athiests, hindus, jews, christians, muslims that convert, women having no rights, rape victims jailed, yea islam is great welcome them with open arms while around the world they oppress non muslims wherever they are in control !!! ask any Malaysian non muslim why they try and send their kids overseas to have opportunity at better life because of the oppression and discrimination by muslims against non muslims, but hey liberals keep your head in the sand and lets not look at the facts.
Donald Trump, clever chap that he is, has correctly assessed the most imminent threat to his presidency – impeachment. He is therefore enlisting the support of all who can potentially prevent this, and as a true exponent of transactional business dealings, he is ditching the Giulies, the Grinches, the Hucks, all of whom have ceased to be of any utility since 11/9.
Ben Carson is disaster-in-waiting. How he will use his acumen with the brain to deal with the complexities of the nonsense universe outside it is a mystery that’s going to unfold with painful consequences – to him and to all those who rely on him to deliver.
This is awesome. Exactly what a need. An administration who calls it what it is.
I have read many of the comments here and would like share the following: First of all, the broad-brush characterizations thrown around here are highly inaccurate and cause more confusion than clarity. It is broad-brushing that put Trump in the Presidency.
The arguments that lump Christians into one camp and Muslims into another and opposing camp are those of basically ignorant and low-information cretins. They serve no purpose other than to continue to fan the flames of hate and justify unending warfare both within and without.
All that we have with Trump and his pseudo-Christians is another facet of the same hegemonic rapacity that has infected this nation from 1607 forward. What makes the Trumpian experience somewhat different is the blatancy of the perversion of two, possibly three religions in the name of world dominance.
As long as the majority of Americans want their world to remain a battle of good versus evil, right versus wrong, black versus white, we will continue along this current path into a dark age that none of us can imagine in our wildest hallucinations.
quote”…we will continue along this current path into a dark age that none of us can imagine in our wildest hallucinations.”quote
Try asking this guy…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/31/japan-atomic-bomb-survivors-nuclear-weapons-hiroshima-70th-anniversary
I’m sure he’ll give you a clue.
Acceptable collateral damage…
The Emperor was using human shields…
The Japanese civilian population were lending material support…
They’d have done the same to us if…
Taking lives saved lives…
An eye for an eye…
It shortened the war…
It was only two bombs…
Only the Japaneses would complain about being defeated by a gay little boy and a fat man…
They started it…
We did them a favor; look at them now…
it’s a snapshot from a certain angle. It’s a picture of the ball bearnings and persons on the floor from the strategic and predictable loss of the worst candydate the demo party ever had and a challenge that faces them as they attempt to get up amidst the rolling ball bearings while more people fall.
good vs evil? WE’RE GETTIN’ THERE.
PRAISE GOD FOR THESE APPOINTMENTS. BRING CHRISTIANITY BACK TO US GOVERNMENT.
Did you watch Borgia
take down that comment!
well since religion is politics, ‘it is what it is!’–tell Glenn i said Hi
Christian vs Islam? Not my battle. What I fear are religious zealots of any stripe pushing their invisible, angry God on the rest of us. Believe whatever voodoo you want, leave the rest of us out of it.
I think Christian do not force you to accept or pay for their beliefs I wish you would talk to the global warming believers because they want to force all of us to accept and pay for their beliefs
Pompeo is obviously insane.
that or everyone else is.
Well, he’s at least part right. The Muslim extremists do call the U.S. the great Satan.
Hi there
Except maybe for radical Muslims, but is the so called “human rights” not the bigger enemy that faces the world today? Because of “human rights”, the world has lost his moral compass?
Does anyone know for sure if these Trump people know that the earth is not flat?
you want scarier?
when the icecaps melt completely, industrial means to remedy the rising water, wild weather patterns, food chain severences, and food and water shortages, at a cost of trillions a year, will become an economy to the point that returning the planet to it’s original state would be such an economic disaster that polluting the air beyond anything we’ve seen yet will be a necessity.
Yes, for scarier see: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
“Any person who subscribes to the teachings and practices of Muhammad, recorded in the Qua-ran, the Sera, and the Hadith, tacitly subscribes to the overthrow of all competing ideologies, institutions, and governments, and to the subjugation or removal of all who refuse to profess, “Allah is the only God, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” (Pamplin)
Sir Winston Churchill, who has a U.S. Naval vessel named after him, and expounded upon them:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
Words written by Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, dated March 28, 1786, to U.S. Minister of Foreign Affairs John Jay, reporting on their meeting with the Ambassador of Tripoli:
“We [Adams & Jefferson] took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. [Note they clarify “nations who have done them [i.e. Muslim Barbary States] no injury”] The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the laws of their prophet [i.e. Mohammed]; that it was written in their Koran; that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners; that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners; and that every Mussulman [Muslims] who was slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
“They abhor Christians,” Pompeo said, “and will continue to press against us until we make sure that we pray and stand and fight and make sure that we know that Jesus Christ is our savior is truly the only solution for our world.”
It never ceases to amaze my how the Christian whack-o alt-right arseholes can be so utterly myopic that they simply can’t see that the very same things they accuse Islam of, they’re doing as well.
Since trilateralist Jimmy Carter began to occupy the White House (1976), a planned clash of civilizations between Christianity and Islam has been in the offing. On Sep 16, 2001, a mere five days after the WTC attack, President Bush chose to invoke the word “crusade” in describing what would later become known as the “War on Terror.” And within three days of that speech, the Christian Science Monitor was already setting off alarm bells concerning President Bush’s choice of words:
On Sep 21, President Bush once again addressed the American people in which he described the attackers as “a collection of loosely affiliated terrorist organizations […] who practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism […] that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam.” The President then went on to claim:
Clearly, this speech was intended, in part, to preemptively dispel the potential misconception that America’s long planned invasion of Afghanistan was driven by a Fundamental Christian aversion for Islam-at-large.
The Wall Street Journal published a Sep 21 article entitled “’Crusade’ Reference Reinforces Fears War on Terrorism Is Against Muslims” that was intended to directly address the President’s clumsy use of the word “crusade” head on:
The author’s further argued that the much of the Muslim World’s disdain for America is related the perception that America is duplicitous and hypocritical in its dealings with Muslims in that it touts democracy but propagates authoritarianism. So, too, they cite A Jordanian critic of American policy in the region who conveyed the broadly held Muslim sentiment that, like the crusades, US Policy in the region is always couched in high minded rhetoric that is intended to mask its true intention of advancing American business interests.
On Oct 7, 2001, the NY Times magazine published an article by Andrew Sullivan entitled “This Is A Religious War” in which the author went to great lengths in defining Operation Enduring Freedom which had been initiated that same day:
On Nov 2, 2001, Thomas Madden published an article in the National Review entitled “The abuse of Christianity’s holy wars” in which the author picked up on Sullivan’s thesis and argued that longstanding historical tension between Islam and the west has now culminated in Islam’s intolerance for the intellectual fruits of the enlightenment – secularism, modernity, individualism, – that currently inform neoliberal imperialist aspirations and the inherently inimical nature of their reason-centric perspective:
Since the WTC attacks of 911, America’s most prominent opinion shapers have painstakingly endeavored to attribute America’s global war on terror to the “irreconcilable nature of cultural tensions” that were theorized by political scientist Samuel P. Huntington, a noted trilateralist who was invited to serve as Carter’s Coordinator of Security Planning for the National Security Council by Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter’s National Security advisor and fellow trilaterist. Brzezinski was the chief proponent of employing the Saudis to funnel pan-Arab aspirations into a radicalized version of Wahhabism that could be militarized in service to a proxy war against Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. Thus, when Jeremy Scahill recently attempted to raise the alarm against the “Christian Supremacist” predilections of V.P. elect Mike Pence, I was not surprised that it was framed in a “War of Civilizations” context.
Any inference that this “clash of civilizations” originated from within a republican administration, or is being predominantly driven by conservative Christian reactionaries from within the Republican Party, is pure historical revisionism. The fact that Pence, Pompeo, and Sessions are now dutifully parroting the latest incarnation of an evolving narrative that originated from within the Carter administration should only speak to the interminable unanimity of purpose that is fostered via the false dichotomy of two-party polemics.
Karl all good points.
And before Carter the Eisenhower Administration over threw Iran’s democratically elected leader, and before that the French and English took what they wanted of the Arab oil, and before that early American Christians just about wiped out the Native American population, because they wanted their land and resources.
After a considerable amount of Bible study I have not been able to find where Christ suggested this is the path he wanted us to take.
You seem to have missed the point. It is not “Christians” who devised, initiated, or are currently perpetuating the global war on terror. Neither was it “early American Christians just about wiped out the Native American population.”
I missed no point.
Onward Christian Soldiers!
People better wake up and realize this was NOT a political victory but a religious coup. The evangelicals have usurped our Democratic Republic and we’re headed for a Fascist theocracy.
Yes we are.
This year was a populist year.
Worldwide we’ve seen the status quo being shattered and neo-liberalism taking it’s last putrid breaths.
Now this populist wave is irresistible, but the power that be had a choice.. either they stepped aside and allowed proper populism (social democracies) flourish, or they manipulated that populism to the point that it became a cancerous tumor (fascism).
Welcome to the new world. Papers please!
Unfortunately for Flavio, his campaign pose as Tough-Guy Strongman has run into several problems, including when he practically fainted from the pressure of the first live-televised debate”
Flavio’s clean, wholesome, law-and-order image suffered another blow today. The city this week has been engulfed by one of the most horrific crimes imaginable: A police colonel, Pedro Chavarry Duarte, was arrested on charges that he raped a 2-year-old girl, who was found naked and distressed in the backseat of his car. Media outlets subsequently discovered that the police colonel had a history of other suspected crimes involving children.
Hubby
For obvious reasons, there is unrestrained revulsion and anger over this police official.
And to know that a large amount of the two cowards’ criminal actions came to fruition to not only attempt to dissuade The Intercept from publishing them publicly, but also any of its readers from discovering that the police chief raped a (and I quote) two year old infant girl by way of physical and emotional intimidation. I sincerely hope that the rape allegations are false.
The comments were closed for this story. The nsa helped that chief rape that little girl if he did. Sorry it took so long to post a comment. Good for the nsa though.
As far as MP goes, a coward masquerading as someone who isn’t, and no, he doesn’t have the right to be that way.
And the Alpha and the Omega of it all, is more tax breaks for billionaires, and quick!!!
It seems like you split your time between condemning Pompeo for criticizing Muslim religious beliefs, and criticizing his religious beliefs. It is hard for me to work with this. You had a much better angle with the torture, but couldn’t you have done better for it than a Daily Mail citation? You know, they won’t let freelancers use the Daily Mail to back up a Cracked.com comedy submission …
Some further investigation would be interesting for some of these. You go on about how he claimed a speaker was “tied to Hamas”, but you don’t give very good links – something like http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2016/03/25/ks-congressman-takes-stand-against-hamas-fundraiser/ looks like a better entrance to the rabbit hole. To be sure, I don’t have an opinion about it because there is a lot there to wade through – they say Monzer Talib was an “unindicted co-conspirator” in some Holy Land Foundation trial, which turns out to reduce to him being a member of the “US Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestinian Committee”. If true, what does this mean? Apparently, according to the same group, the same document puts CAIR in the same status. I am indeed wary of McCarthyism here, and if you can connect their dots you might be able to clinch that case. But I’m not going to reject this guy Pompeo as a candidate for office because he protested against someone he thought was in Hamas, when I don’t even know what the truth is. (But if you can make the case that it should have been obvious to anyone fit to do CIA work that this was bogus, then we can revisit that)
The group in question was founded by Frank Gaffney. They are very hostile to Islam and Muslims. Gaffney himself promoted the theory that Saddam was behind the 1993 WTC bombing and the Oklahoma City bombing. (And did I mention how he thought arms reduction talks under REAGAN were dangerous?)
He should change his name to Mighty Pompousoaf. He’ll be The Donald’s go to “man” when The Donald will starts his vendettas against the people what have (sic) pissed The Donald off. I can see wide spread abuses of power with Pompousoaf in charge. Anyone who is not a christian should beware of this loony.
I agree Kronomex the information I gleaned from Wikipedia gives me the impression he walks the line between being a Sen. McCarthy and a J. Edgar Hoover
ok I’ll try again. First, I’ll use this as a test to see if I will be allowed to speak, this site has censored me for a year, along with other disqus/wordpress/other moderators. Here goes.
Just another trumpian clown. Two of the three Abrahamic religions Islam and Christianity demand adherents convert others, although that knowledge is smothered for obvious reasons in this country. When this clown spouts his propaganda he’s only half right, and he uses it as propaganda. He’s a Christian supremacist, he is demanded by his gods to use any tools, lying, hatred, murder and war, to overcome the other. Unfortunately the other side is doing the same, and with the ascendency of these fools in this nation Islamists will be correct in reacting, and over reacting the same way, in simple self defense. The outcome is war without end, skyrocketing profits for war industries, and a hitlerian leadership without thought of democracy, underpinned and supported by the christianist fools that put trump into power. All this will be accomplished by the belief of fools in non-existent supernatural beings, there are no gods, ever, else prove otherwise. If we are to survive, there needs to be a concerted effort to promote atheism, to purge the religious infection that will destroy our nation, protect you and your children from the poison that has consumed this nation. It is said ‘nones’ are the fastest growing ‘religion’, work to increase that demographic, else democracy is over. I’ve long been censored on this site, as I have been for a year on so-called liberal sites infected with disqus and wordpress and others, for saying just this message. It is no surprise that trump was elected with a large percentage of evangelical voters, they are led by Christian supremacists with the express purpose to eliminate separation of church and state, and with pence they will likely succeed. We are done
Maybe you get censored because you make pretty broad claims like “there is no god” without actually backing that claim up and then proceed to insult those who have a different view as “fools”.
Well, since YOU have NO proof that there is a God, the onus is on you to provide such proof.
I wasn’t saying there was a God but since you served the challenge, consider the information found in DNA and RNA. It’s currently being debated where this information came from, evolutionary biologists have no answer but what is the one thing we know and observe that can create information? An intelligent mind.
quote”Well, since YOU have NO proof that there is a God, the onus is on you to provide such proof.”unquote
Says one while trying to comprehend his impending eternal death.
write in Bill Maher?
Pompeo’s autobiography will appropriately be entitled “50 Shades of Cretin.”
Well done getting Trump elected. This is exactly what The Intercept wanted. The most thinly veiled endorsement ever.
What is it with these assclowns? Pompeo is calling for for the final solution for Muslims, the execution of Edward Snowden, etc.
Put aside his religious ‘bent’ for a moment. He is unwilling to put his own ass on the tip of that spear which makes him nothing more than a garden variety coward. I LOATHE cowards like this guy. The media should tell him, in front of a camera, to openly fuck himself and call out his hypocrisy. EVERY SINGLE TIME he opens his vile piehole.
If only we had a sane country.
Above all, purity, folks. Purity. Nothing less than that will suffice.
My challenge to the Christian ministers and priests out there: are you going to go along to get along and maintain your church membership or call these people out for behavior that flies squarely in the face of Jesus’ teachings? When will the “in” groups begin denouncing radical people who claim to represent their beliefs or group? Hypocrites all of them.
Well then. It doesn’t take much ‘scratching beneath the surface’ to see where the coming Trump Administration is headed. By next summer, the nation will know what it has wrought – a dark time of decreased liberty and civil rights, all in the name of national pride. Sad and frightening.
He is much better than HER. At least we can be sure that he will open talks with Putin who the MSM has villified while overlooking our arm twisting the UN, (another shadow wing of American Hegemony) to allow non-European countries into the EU. With that allowance, we have now surrounded Russia with nuclear weapons as we have done in the Far East with our president allowing Viet Nam to but, guess what, more military armaments pointed to our other enemy, which is a very big supplier of goods to us, China. I’m a far left kind of guy, and I voted for Trump because he is no doubt the lesser of the two evils. Now, we need true leadership to keep him on the up and up, and bring on a legitimate third party. Are you in?
Funny Stuff :
Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
-George Carlin
With idiots like that running the show, the should rename it the “CSA” – no not Confederate States of America (which I’m sure the Trump people would like also) but the “Central Stupidity Agency”. Trump saif he wanted to be inclusive, so I guess that means jerks and fools will be included in his administration.
“They abhor Christians,” Pompeo said, “and will continue to press against us until we make sure that we pray and stand and fight and make sure that we know that Jesus Christ is our savior is truly the only solution for our world.”
Does this dolt realize why ISIS beheads people, commits indiscriminate murders throughout Europe, and makes an identical religious argument against the US?
The more Muslims who accept the claim of a world-wide religious war, the better for ISIS and, indeed, for all oppressed Muslims everywhere.
There is no better recruitment argument than a prominent member of the world elite declaring war against a religion.
This sort of belligerence — declaring an entire religion the enemy — is to terrorism exactly what gasoline is to a match: an accelerant.
This polarizing rhetoric can be used, ver batim, by any religion, about any other religion, anywhere in the world, at any time in history. It is designed to empower the clerics. The Catholics burned Protestant “heretics” at the stake, not for the sake of their religion but for the sake of their own political empowerment. Nero sent Christians to their deaths in the Colosseum after accusing them of plotting against Rome. He needed to hide his own incompetence. Hitler murdered millions of non-aryans … well, you know the story.
This religion baiting is such a time-worn and common old political device that the founders of the US made freedom of religion the very first amendment.
As head of the CIA, Pompeo will find all the “reasons” he needs to justify his Christian crusade against Muslims. We might as well rename CIA the Office of the Grand Inquisitor.
Congratulations Trump. Once again you’ve found a way to offend common sense, to steer the ship of state towards the rocky shoals, and to reward the most cruel and stupid people (like yourself) with positions of power.
Thank you America. Once again you demand war and suffering as you try to turn your own ignorance and hatred into a virtue.
Thank you Christians. Once again you blacken a religion of charity, peace and forgiveness with the rancid stench of bigotry and nationalism.
The Islamic crusade against Christianity was well established in 1991: http://www.clarionproject.org/Muslim_Brotherhood_Explanatory_Memorandum. Islam confers privileged status on Muslims over all other religious people. This is incompatible with US gov’t. And I’m persistently annoyed with this false equivalence conjectured for all religions: Mohammad, a war lord, was no Jesus Christ.
The problem I have with the “you’re helping ISIS recruiting” argument is how it’s used to quash discussion. If we all pretend that there’s no problem to avoid upsetting ISIS, then everybody will begin to believe the “religion of peace” talking point, and ultimately US immigration policy on Islamic immigrants will loosen. ISIS is a problem within the borders of other sovereign nations. They’re a threat within the US insofar as they can persuade US citizens and visitors to violence (the most easily persuaded, I expect, are Islamic immigrants and their descendants). I’m fine with confronting the Islamic world. That’s fine if it results in internal violence. We’re good at building prisons in America.
I appreciate your reasoning — however flawed and counterfactual I find it — because it’s NOT the sort of invective-laden frothing I often must overlook.
I cite the final sentence as convenience — the pithy and inflammatory response: “Yes, you’re good at building prisons. You’re even better at building bombs, selling assault weapons, murdering people on the street and putting tyrants in charge of nations.”
As the only nation ever to use atomic weapons on cities, as the nation that turned strategic bombing into hell on earth (in Dresden and Tokyo) and as the nation that militarily spends close to the entire rest of the world combined, I don’t think the US is considering imprisoning Muslims — internally or elsewhere.
In the US, even Jesus Christ is no Jesus Christ. (As Pompeo makes clear.)
There are at least a billion and a half Muslims in the world — probably more like 2 billion. Christianity is slightly larger (2.2b) but will soon be eclipsed by Muslims.
If four billion people go to war with one another, if both sides have nuclear weapons, and if one atrocity inevitably leads to another, it won’t be prisons the US is building, but mass graves for the billions of casualties on both sides!
Yes,Muslims have nuclear weapons too.
This sort of mass carnage is exactly what will follow if these two religions cannot find a way to live together peacefully. Here’s the problem in america — and perhaps with all humankind.
War sells.
And there are plenty of carnival barkers like Trump and Pompeo selling.
The only prize is death.
The only question to ask of these carnival barkers: how much death is enough?
All that I’m talking about is immigration policy. Fortunately, we have Europe as a cautionary tale in motion to steer us. Imprisoning Muslims isn’t on the agenda. If the national conversation causes more Muslims within the US to react violently, then we’ll put the subset of Muslim criminals in prison. That’s how Western society works. I’ll acknowledge that my “causes” is masking
– domestic harassment of Muslim-Americans and
– propaganda opportunities that domestic rhetoric provides ISIS-like groups.
Unfortunately, the US executive has failed to deal with this stuff rationally (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU6n1mrpAGY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQt_mP6Pgg), so the issue is now politicized and the electorate is going to decide how things proceed. I’m happy to see some borderline-paranoid people with Trump that will err on the side of caution. Most of Pompeo’s controversial statements describe an Islamic war on Christianity. My earlier source indicates that this is reality, not some delusion. Granted many Americans may overreact to the situation, but I would rather err on the side of caution. The gov’t has blown its chance to handle it quietly behind closed doors.
Pakistan is the only Islamic country with nuclear weapons with a stockpile of 130, and they can barely reach Israel. My understanding is that ISIS and the Taliban are unfriendly, so that provides a natural buffer that will keep ISIS out of Pakistan. Further into the future, I suppose that demography in France and England could put more nuclear weapons in the hands of Muslims, but I would expect them to cooperate on disarming if their gov’ts were about to be overtaken by Islamic parties.
As far as size of allies in a hypothetical fight against Islam, I would expect a coalition of sovereign countries:
– Islam is illegal in China (1.4B),
– India’s majority Hindu population is a natural ally against Islam (1.3B),
– Russia vis a vis Chechnya is a natural ally against Islam (140M), and
– the US itself would contribute (320M).
That’s upwards of 3B people, although in modern warfare I suspect that GDP is more relevant. The US’s international fracking moves have gutted oil demand, clobbering the Islamic petro-economies (and the Russians’s). The Islamic countries combined GDP is $18.6B, while the above coalition is operating at $30.0B. With oil demand declining, their combined GDP won’t keep pace with the West’s. Their only hope of a conquest is by covert means, not direct assault.
Actually, you’re talking about the actual lives of real people. You can try to disguise the real flesh and bones by using abstractions. “Strategic bombing,” “shock and awe,””drone policy,” “refugees,” “collateral damage,” “kill radius,” “deport,” “criminals” … in this statistical age of numbers and bluster, we literally have millions of terms to justify the unconscionable.
If a child is drowning, do you throw a lifeline … or rocks?
It’s a simple choice. Do you save the helpless or do you help them die? (In the past, some regimes have decided that better than helping the helpless die, they would kill them. You know — expending resources on the already doomed is such a waste. They called a “final solution” to the Jewish problem.)
Calling it “immigration policy” might make it more comfortable for you, but realistically you should specify how many lives you’re willing to sacrifice to enforce your immigration policy.
It’s the Christian thing to do.
How many lives is too many lives to save? A billion? A hundred million? A million? Thousands? One?
And no, you don’t get a bigot’s discounts by saying these are Muslim’s lives, not worth the same as your life.
And you don’t get to say, it’s them or us, because almost all of “them” are ordinary people trying to save themselves and their children — doing exactly what you would do if you were in their situation.
But I get it, I do. We’ve been through this before:
How many lives is too many to protect?
In the thirties, just half a million lives was too many lives to save.
So how many are too many now?
How many deaths will you ignore so you can accurately calculate the respective worth (GDPs) of those living in Muslim nations and those living in non-Muslim nations?
Your moralizing is really tiresome. For instance, Pakistan is a country that refuses to police a population that sends militants into another country, Afghanistan. Afghanistan is our ally. Oddly, Pakistan is our ally too, despite the fact that we kill many civilians in that country. How is that? How can a country remain allies with another country that kills its civilians? The answer is that Pakistan uses the US in lieu of policing. The Pakistani gov’t can stop the carnage by policing the region, but it chooses to use its resources elsewhere. Traditionally, I expect that a cross-border militant problem would be solved with a war. That’s a giant blob of badness, and I suspect the number of mangled corpses would dwarf the drone wars’ number of mangled corpses.
You caricature immigration choices as a simple, zero-risk acts. What, no option to shoot the child in the face instead of granting citizenship? That’s ridiculous. It does suggest a more reasonable framework, however: If 10 children are drowning, I’m not going to exchange my child’s life for those 10. What count is my tipping point? Personally, I reject that framework. I’m interested in the attack-death and attack-maiming rates.
I’ve already spoken my feelings on immigration risk analysis: https://theintercept.com/2016/08/31/white-house-congratulates-itself-on-modest-refugee-milestone/?comments=1#comment-276710. I would argue that immigration should be throttled to an attack-death rate that matches the US traffic fatality rate. Unfortunately, that calculus is complicated by unknown-unknowns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_theory#General_criticism). In my linked comment, I mentioned the Orlando shooter. When the US made the decision to grant citizenship to his father in the 1980s the World Trade Center bombing, 9/11, and the Iraq and Afghan wars were unknown-unknowns. What is lurking in the future that is going to make a mockery of the current decision process? Or is it all sunshine and unicorns?
As far as “the Christian thing to do,” America is not a theocracy and I’m not a Christian, thank god or God or whatever.
The comparisons to Weimar Jews is beyond stupid. There’s a way to end the Syrian war tomorrow. It’s called surrender. There’s a way to survive ISIS. It’s called submission. My understanding is that the groups that actually face certain death are underrepresented among the refugees.
GDP is relevant as an indicator of who would win a war: Population and GDP superiority implies almost certain victory. Note that minding deaths and calculating GDPs are not mutually exclusive.
i doubt pompous would be confirmed
Thank you Christians. Once again you blacken a religion of charity, peace and forgiveness with the rancid stench of bigotry and nationalism.
“Christians” is a loaded word…
Don’t take down my comments without the approval of at least 2 sockpuppets!
Your religion is none of my business.
I’d like to keep it that way.
My only point is that war — bigotry and nationalism — is the exact opposite of the teachings of Christ in both theory and in practice.
Mine is not a comment about religion — not mine, not yours and not that of anyone else.
The CIA is a good place for no-fundamentalist nutjobs like Pompeo; he fits right in with Muslim theocracies like Saudi Arabia and ISIS. And yes, the Koran is certainly based on the Old Testament, which preaches violence on behalf of god’s ‘chosen people.’ (whoever they may be at the moment!)
And, yes, there is a religious war going on between adherents of medieval religions, no matter what they call themselves; but the war was started by neo-christians, not Muslims. Bin Laden certainly didn’t blow up the twin towers!
there had to be handlers and co-ordinators somewheres
I would say that it is a war between Zionism and Islam, with US Christianity being the preferred Zionist cudgel to ‘smash the infidels.’
Did you here that brave, but naive US soldier? You are a cudgel.
once human now robotised
not sure that fully developed humans can be robotised
This dickhead Pompeo is representative of a much larger corruption
than this article indicates.
The fear, disdain, and willingness to murder people based upon
religious affiliations is hardly limited to a minority of religious
zealots in the faking U$A. In fact, this sort of perverse prejudice
is commonly accepted as patriotic in the faking U$A. The indifference
to the slaughtering and destruction in numerous wars in the
Middle East and other Muslim areas – Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya,
Egypt, Palestine, Pakistan, Lebanon, Syria,
and numerous other regions (and the desire to destroy Iran) –
are all framed as patriotic by democrats and republicans alike.
The Trump-ists are different because they are more blatantly
predatory, but the horrors they want to inflict are not different than
that which has been proudly promoted by G.H.W. Bush, B. Clinton,
G. W. Bush, B. Obama, and H. Clinton and all of the leaders of their
Capital-worshiping fake parties and their supporters.
The real religion of sadistic domination and indifference depends
upon using fear of outsiders while it also has the same disdain
for the people who participate in its perverse lust for global
domination. The fanatics who use Islam as their disguise are
actually a reflection of the same power lust as are these
liars in the faking U$A and its Allied corporate faking states.
A desire for money and power over others is what unites all
of this sick crap big daddy religiosity.
armageddon = Iran to buy new fighter jets to boost defense capabilities + crazy conjob evangelical wingnut shit-for-brains with power.
those jets will come from russia or china. i say russia.
the US is about to lose agin! US is gittin perdy good at losin’!
When you say,
“crazy conjob evangelical wingnut shit-for brains with power”
you are describing every adherent to the religion of
(so-called) Free Market Capitalism from both
democrat and republican arms of the cyclops,
no matter which other religion they may pretend to believe.
noticed i didnt use the word “right”
good observation
Not good news. Trump appoints an Israel Firster to head the CIA.
That is hardly a new thing in the faking U$A.
Self righteous people get to thinking that they and them like them are the center of the universe, and outsiders are some sort of foe. MP sounds pretty dangerous, like hellary clinton, something to prove because the rest of himself is lacking. Funny (or notso) how these political blowhards are always trying to put on a show and do things that screw up everything thinking they can always figure it out later. Havent we had enuf of that?
Putting it all together, this cheney v2 sounds like he has already adopted the paranoid framework for WW3.
terrorists from the so-called Ansar al-Islam group can be seen testing low-altitude 9K32 Strela-2 missile systems in the southwestern Syrian provinces of Dara’a and Quneitra.
You wont see these headlines published by the wallstreet whore media who want Americans to fight and die in their wars for land and profits. But elsewhere around the globe the opinion is that the US fostered the creation of ISIS to destabilise the middle east (YINON PLAN).
http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/11/23/494815/Middle-East-Iran-Ayatollah-Seyyed-Ali-Khamenei-terrorism-Daesh-US-Israel
and whilst we’re on the topic of terrorists, it turns out that the people of Yemen have been suffering under the US installed terrorist gov and the people want to hold elections – you know – like the US does but the US does not want a democracy in Yemen because the US does not want the democracy thing to spread to neighboring SA. So who are the terrorists?
The US would not be bombing ISIS every day if the US had fostered the creation of ISIS.
Pompeo proves the old saying – you can’t think and hit at the same time. What a sad, weak-minded boy to try “eye for an eye” reasoning in 2016. Blind us all because you’ve been desperate for attention your entire, fearful life? No thanks, idiot.
i dont think he’s a real christian. i think he’s a phony. maybe we could find out if a responsible senator would ask him –
senator x: what is your understanding of Jesus’ action in physically turning the tables on the money changers and how would that apply to wallstreet today?
i think they are all phonies.
And what about that other cheek?
never did quite understand that one
going to have to learn greek
Turning the other cheek gives a moment of pause and a chance for repentence, which was what he was all about.
God help us…
Well, its definitely not a war on terror, its something else.
terrorism is a war between radical Muslims, and the Christian faith ?.? The perpetual war – the new CRUSADES?.? interesting concept – nothing to do with PEACE. In 2004 the pentagon did a study of the causes of this terrorism. . . . .it turns out 90% of the problem is ours..our presence and trying to control their country and religion. WE invaded them not the other way around – WE bombed them back to the dark ages George W. Bush said – We supplied the poison gas Saddam used, and WE supply the cluster bombs the Saud’s use – Our Drones are not for PEACE B-U-T for killing a perceived enemy.