Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison’s bid to lead the Democratic National Committee has set off a flurry of articles noting his affinity, in his younger years, for the Nation of Islam — a black separatist group that practices a nontraditional form of Islam, whose former leader, Louis Farrakhan, frequently engaged in anti-Semitism and anti-white speech.
Ellison has been reticent to talk about the topic, even canceling a New York Times interview after reporters asked him about it.
But those wishing to learn more about Ellison’s views as a young man — not long after he converted to Islam and 16 years before he became the first Muslim elected to Congress — can look to columns that he wrote as a law student at the University of Minnesota in 1989 and 1990 for the university’s student newspaper.
They provide insight into why he was drawn to black nationalism and the Nation of Islam. They show a younger and angrier Ellison, who denounced white supremacy and the policies of the state of Israel. And while they show either a willful or naive ignorance of the Nation of Islam’s bigotry, they also show him expressing sympathy for the plight of underprivileged whites and making clear that he was not antagonistic toward Jewish people.
When Ellison ran for Congress in 2006, he told the Washington Post that he was initially drawn to Farrakhan because he saw him standing up for African-Americans — but that he didn’t approve of bigotry against Jews or others. “My perspective was a tunnel vision; I was mostly concerned about the welfare of the African-American community,” he explained to the Washington Post.
“I never said anything that was anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic in any way.” But he also admitted to being slow to pick up on the hatred espoused by Farrakhan.
The student newspaper columns he wrote as a law student seem to confirm his story. They also help illustrate a serious, lifelong commitment to social justice.
The conservative World Net Daily and Daily Caller websites recently ran articles decrying Ellison, who used the pen name “Keith Hakim” for one particular column they read as advocacy for a separate nation for black Americans — which is indeed an extreme policy proposal.
But that call was part of a longer, thoughtful discussion of the failures of affirmative action. In the February 2, 1990, column, titled “Affirmative action does not make up for past injustice,” he argued that America’s social programs were failing to truly address injustices committed against African-Americans, while also unfairly burdening working class white Americans.
“Conservatives have a point concerning affirmative action,” he wrote. “Why should marginally qualified white college students and blue-collar workers shoulder over 400 years of white supremacy alone? … Let’s face it — liberal social programs, including but not limited to affirmative action, foist the burden of brutal white savagery on the most marginally qualified whites, usually students or the white working class.”
This brought him to propose not a genuine alternative, but a thought experiment of sorts: “I have a challenge for all fair-minded middle- and working-class white people: I will urge black people to abandon white-dominated, integration-oriented, give-away programs if you urge white people to justly compensate black people for 250 years of slavery, 90 years of Jim Crow and 25 years of neo-Jim Crow.”
In that scenario, he suggested reparations in the form of cash compensation and giving blacks “the option of choosing their own land base or remaining in the United States.” Five states in the Deep South would become “the black state,” although neither whites nor blacks would be compelled to move, he explained.
It was more satire than a serious call to secede.
“Affirmative action does not make up for past injustice,” a column Keith Ellison wrote for his student newspaper under the pen name “Keith Hakim,” published on Feb. 2, 1990.
“The single most distinguishing characteristic of the Nation of Islam, from a black perspective, is the Nation’s message of economic self-determination,” he wrote in a November 27, 1989, column titled “Minister Farrakhan never claimed to be Malcolm X.” He was defending an invitation to Farrakhan to speak at the school. “Considering the Power Program, the bean pies and the fish stores, the black community knows the Nation to have a definite economic thrust.”
Ellison did not endorse racism or bigotry, but he also failed to even recognize the extremism in Farrakhan’s politics. He concluded that the hatred Farrakhan provoked was a reaction against his attempt to disrupt white supremacy.
Racism “has very definite characteristics. It means subjugation of one racial class by another,” he wrote in the same column. “For Farrakhan to be a racist he would have to be, at least, preaching subjugation of whites. Farrakhan, however, preaches cultural pluralism and repatriation, as opposed to integration.”
A column Keith Ellison wrote for the University of Minnesota’s student newspaper, titled “Minister Farrakhan never claimed to be Malcolm X.”
In 1990, black students at the University of Minnesota invited Kwame Ture — the black activist more commonly known as Stokely Carmichael, a former leader of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee — to address the school. Ture was under fire for comments he made disparaging Zionism, the founding philosophy of the state of Israel.
The university’s president, Nils Hasselmo, defended Ture’s right to speak but exclaimed that he found Ture’s views to be “deeply offensive.”
Ellison perceived Hasselmo’s comments as an attack on black students’ right to free speech, responding with a column titled “Blacks struggle for freedom of speech.” In that column, Ellison defended the invitation to Ture, but also separated criticisms of Zionism from those of the Jewish people. “If Zionism is nationalism — and not religion — then it is necessarily a political matter,” he wrote. “Political matters are always subject to debate, which means support or criticism. Those who opt to criticize Israel are not necessarily anti-Jewish.”
Keith Ellison’s column “Blacks struggle for freedom of speech,” published in the University of Minnesota’s student newspaper.
Later in his life, Ellison left the angry and sectarian politics of the Nation of Islam behind and grew to recognize that extreme political speech and tactics were not the way to achieve his social goals.
For example, he is an outspoken supporter of Black Lives Matter, but also believes that engaging in tactics that turn people away rather than build coalitions is the wrong approach to create justice.
Last December, when a group of Minneapolis Black Lives Matter protesters camped outside a police building, he supported their goal — an investigation into the shooting of Jamar Clark, a black man killed by police. His own son joined the protesters and had a weapon pointed at him by police:
Photo is agonizing for me to see. My son is PEACEFULLY protesting w/ hands up; officer is shouldering gun. Why? https://t.co/TTUBR0fxtS
— Rep. Keith Ellison (@keithellison) November 19, 2015
Disturbing photo of @MinneapolisPD ready to shoot US Rep @keithellison son. @MayorHodges save your city! #Jamarclark pic.twitter.com/icnC2hcHtd
— CallMeWin (@WintanaMN) November 19, 2015
But as the encampment dragged on, there was increasing concern about public safety. Someone fired a gun amidst the demonstrators. Ellison called for the protests to end. Black Lives Matter protesters reacted with scorn:
. @MayorHodges @keithellison it's crazy how u r focused on ending the #4thPrecinctShutDown but not the issues that led to it #Justice4Jamar
— Black Lives MPLS (@BlackLivesMpls) December 1, 2015
Ellison insisted that he supported their goals, but that disrupting public life was not helpful:
#4thPrecinctShutDown is tactic; GOAL is #Justice4Jamar. Action is at grand jury, not blocking seniors from bus stop https://t.co/ItCcb1lf2c
— Rep. Keith Ellison (@keithellison) December 1, 2015
It was as if Ellison was arguing with a younger version of himself.
Top photo: Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison being arrested at a protest in favor of immigration reform on Oct. 8, 2013, in Washington, D.C.
commenters: if you can’t imagine yourself ever supporting the Democratic Party, then let us know that when you say who shouldn’t run the DNC.
At the very least the featured picture was of Ellison’s “good side”
We have all argued with younger versions of ourselves. It is, or is supposed to be part of growing up. The thing is that we should entertain illusions about doing it in a progressive way, to the point of forgetting, “rationalizing”, rewriting ourselves for the sake of our own convenience.
One of the aspects I love about brother Malcolm’s life as described in the autobiography written by Alex Haley is how he never let his huge ego forget who he was, even while kind of apologizing to progressive “white” people, even right before he was assassinated by what I totally believe was a plot orchestrated by the FBI and the NYPD.
Heck! We all argue with our own versions of ourselves at all times. It is part of having a consciousness. “Russian hackers” implanted a girl in my mind and made me maddeningly fall in love with her and I haven’t been able to “debug” her out of me; my girlfriends from when I was a kid scold me for “still” masturbating telling me “I am too old for that, that when I masturbate I am being disrespectful to all women in the Universe”, silly me shamefully believes them, yet . . .; at times I wish I could contain myself and not start ranting at theIntercept and engage the time and mental energy for better endeavors . . .
RCL
Zaid: do you want in? Ask Keith if he knows this phrase : ” seasoned with Kosher salt.”
And please don’t forget to eat at Gandhi Mahal- one of Keith’s stop spots in Minneapolis. Great weed, better food, right next to the precinct house where the DFL plots its gang staling operations on Lake Street- those people have eaten more good food, and plotted more DFL politics there than any other place in MPLS. DFL police uonionists meet with weed dealers. the beleaguered Republican party, and other scoundrels consorting with the devil and plotting community gardens, sustainable living, and worst of all, feeding the homeless!
Satatansists!
Ask Keith about his ties to Jackie Cherryholmes and Sharon Sayles Belton- and the ring of party goers that used North Minneapolis as a playground back in the 90’s, compromising cops, women, kids, and entire “bodies” politic. Lots of GOOD stories there, I assure you. He is no Gandhi-nor is he a Muslim, based on his ADL/JDL affiliations.
I see there’s lots of people here arguing that Ellison is disqualified because his speech has been politically incorrect. Maybe there are legitimate reasons to think he’s not qualified. His political opinions from college are not those reasons.
Jeeeeeesus, flippin, frackin, fricken, Chriiiistttt!!!!! What does it take for the progressive press to take an honest look at what is being injected into American infants??!!!! (PS – like me, neither Islamists, nor people of the Jewish faith believe that Jesus was the son of god – may the god I don’t believe in bless us all).
For the last six months I have been watching the Nation of Islam tour the country with the documentary Vaxxed to thousands of Black American citizens. This documentary is about the danger of black baby boys complying with the CDC vaccine schedule. Letting economically disadvantaged Black Americans know that there is a whistle-blower at the CDC, (did I say that loudly enough, forgive me, to the shagrin of Rachel Maddow allow me to capitalize) AT THE CDC!!!!!! who has been caught on tape as having said, “I feel great shame……” “I have been part of the problem……” “We threw away data in a garbage can”…. is something only the Nation of Islam has done. The neo-liberal ACLU and NAACP and Congressmen Cummings have given us the hand. The transcripts of the conversations between Dr Hooker and Dr Thompson are accessible on-line. Please ask Robert Kennedy Jr. He will gladly direct you to them. I believe, regarding this issue, he would enjoy some attention from the progressive press. He just had a subpoena blocked by the head of the CDC. Let me say that again… ROBERT F KENNEDY JR has had THE DIRECTOR OF THE CDC, Tom Friedan, block his subpoena. HEAD OF THE CDC….BLOCKS SUBPOENA from ROBERT F KENNEDY JR!!!! If we lived any other place then bizzaro world, where England votes for Brexit and America votes for Donald Trump, this would be front page news of the New York Times. The pharmaeceutical industry has successfully neutralized this conversation, because of scientific folklore, and a for-profit healthcare system, and a bought and paid for media and legislative body. We can not get the progressive press to take a logical scientific look at what we are injecting into American infants and infants around the world.
Poul Thorsen is a wanted felon, look it up!
Merck is being sued by two OF THEIR OWN VIROLOGISTS over the MMR!
William Thompson, and many, many of American doctors are looking for some cover from American media so science can be adhered to when it comes to what is being injected into our infants. No one understands this better than the master of media manipulation Donald J Trump. The political party that gets to take responsibility for reversing economic autism will be the political party that remains in power for decades to come, and no one understands that better then Mitch McConnell.
Obviously antisemitism or racism of any kind has no place in our society. I do not believe Minister Farrakhan’s antisemitic and separatist rhetoric from days of yore represent the sentiment of the members of the Nation of Islam.
I do believe that if the progressive press does not report on why it is that so many Americans assert that vaccines can render children autistic, the Republican Party will remain is power for decades to come.
If you are a journalist, and you know who Colin Kaepernik is and you don’t know who Shelia Ealey you are the victim of goold ol’fashioned Americana misogyny. I will pray to the god I don’t believe in for you.
An interesting man still devoted to but now maturing arguments of what is right. It would be a shame to force him out for these virtues. I see Zionist hand in these attempts to disgrace a great asset to the country and the Democratic program. He is not a party hack seeking an eventual fortune as a lobbyist. Stick with him, it will be worth it.
Don’t you think you might be getting played here? The Black Congressional Caucus get ~65 percent of their money from the Jewish lobby. I doubt that Keith Ellison is going to say or do anything to jeopardize this. Seems to me he has already joined the herd of de–fanged, de–clawed and neutered “progressives” that brought us Clinton in the first place. And who wants that?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/05/congressional-black-caucus-deep-in-the-israel-lobbys-pocket/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/07/has-israel-effectively-colonized-the-united-states/
Your article made me think more deeply about how the true enemy is hatred and fear itself and I think in this you capture how Ellison moved from viewing others as a literal embodiment of evil to flawed people who can still be saved. How a protest can be a cry for those in power to show mercy rather then struggle for power and control.
It is interesting to see that when protest groups allow themselves to become represented by outright violence or hatred that they become something else and I think I admire Ellison for speaking out for the need to self police and abstain when a protest movement which in itself is good and necessary becomes co-opted rather then blindly accepting evil choices because they serve your cause.
“It was as if Ellison was arguing with a younger version of himself.” Well said, and indeed aren’t we all? :) Well maybe not everyone, only those who are not content with who they are yet.
Oh my, ADL, AIPAC , Israel all in a tizzy about someone who might shed some light on how they buy and pay for our Congress. Right on Mr. Ellison.
If he was Jewish we would hear nary a word or maybe how good of a ‘friend’ to Israel he is and expounding on the ‘special relationship’ dysfunctional and screwed up as it is.
In a hundred years no other lobby group other than AIPAC has gotten their hands as deep into the American pocket and government as Israelis have been for the past 60 years.
Between 2009 and 2015, Israeli lobbies contributed nearly $17 million dollars to the campaigns of 349 U.S. government officials. And Congress members are not apt to bite the hands that so generously feed them; ethics, morals and justice be damned.
The solution is simple – when an AIPAC endorsed Congress person rails against Ellison just spell it out for them, wherever that congressional idiot appears/speaks ask them about all the money we give to Israel that could be spend here at home. People understand dollars and cents. Make AIPAC and the people who receive money from AIPAC and are blindingly, unquestioning of apartheid Israel defend giving 10 millions dollars a day to a ‘vibrant democracy’ when our own are going without. Spell it out for them and shame these Israel firsters/AIPACers. It’s long overdue.
If we stopped giving money to Israel, the Republicans would give that money to the rich in the form of tax cuts.
The whole world benefits from Israel’s advances in science, medicine & technology, but we Americans also benefit from our access to intelligence from MOSSAD which is considered one of the world’s best intelligence agencies & from being able to pre-position military supplies in Israel in case we want to intervene in the Middle East & from Israeli expertise in developing weapons systems. We gave F-15’s to Israel & Israel improved them, 700 modifications. Thanks to Israel, we now have better warplanes. Also, Israel is a laboratory & the Israelis are guinea pigs in learning how a democratic society can deal with terrorism. Israel is on the front line battling terrorism. The terrorists say “First the Saturday people (Jews) then the Sunday people (Christians.) Israel is the barrier island protecting the West.
Apartheid? Where are the separate water fountains & bathrooms?
Why are there Arabs in the Israeli parliament & on the Israeli Supreme Court?
David Duke is no longer the outspoken white separatist that he once was. We should therefore embrace him as a symbol of moderation. Oh, I forgot; Duke is a white, heterosexual male – and, as such, there is no forgiveness.
More mealy mouthed identity politics from the Intercept’s token representatives and those they choose to lionize. The only defining difference between Ellison and his “angry radical” counterparts is the mean by which their common objectives are affected. It is the deeply skewed, racially divisive thinking of the likes of Farrakhan that gives rise to the common objectives to which Ellison continues to share allegiance and pledge fidelity.
“It was as if Ellison was arguing with a younger version of himself.”
Exactly!
This article excusing a white-hating Muslim is what gives left wingers a bad name. It doesn’t ring true and everyone sees it.
How do you apologize for crazy?
Is the argument that Ellison is no longer a completely unhinged insane person?
Is he supposed to be on medication now, or is crazy something that you grow out of? (the idea that older people are more sane than younger people sounds nuts to me)
Is it even possible to repent or apologize for crazy?
Don’t get me wrong–I get so many things wrong that if I had to defend my past positions, I would resign for ethical reasons–and then testify for the the prosecution. (the last part is the key)
Let me caution against assuming that crazy is sincere. Scammers love the crazy. It’s like having a pre-qualified list of people to take advantage of. Race and Religion attract the crazy big time, and mixing them together is basically just blatant trolling–except for the real crazies that actually believe the crap they spout about race and god. Sincerely scary people.
Race is literally one of the stupidest ideas ever. Race is directly opposed to evolution. You can’t believe that both race and evolution are true at the same time. Pick one.
It can’t be in the least bit surprising that preaching to the world that race is real and true will give a huge platform to complete nutjobs and scammers. If you preach that we are all divided by an innate and irrevocable essence that exists in direct contradiction to science and logic, then you are going to get more of what you preach.
Is there anyone who wants to see the world burn more than those who preach that race is true?
And no, calling race a “social construct” actually makes you more evil. A lot more evil. Just fucking admit already that you want people to believe in something really really horrible and evil, something that you don’t actually believe to be true yourself, just so that you can manipulate them and take their votes, money, freewill, identity, etc.
At least Priests pretend to believe what they preach. Your disdain for your “flock” is transparent.
So is Ellison insane or just a scammer?
A lot of young people in college express concern for social justice. We shouldn’t hold this against them permanently. They graduate, get jobs, are absorbed by the system and end up supporting the existing power structure. Kicking them out of the system on account of their youthful idealism risks them rediscovering their principles and becoming potentially dangerous adversaries. It is much better to co-opt any potential opposition. So I say give Mr. Ellison a prominent post in the Democratic party where he can help to defuse any potential dissident movement, as opposed to leading such a movement.
Benito Mussolini canalizzazione Niccolo Machiavelli…
Ellison is still an angry radical Muslim biggot. A prefect fit to run the DNC. The only reason he put space between himself and the other radical biggot Louis Farrakhan is because his political handlers the DNC advised him so.
And Trump is a racist mysogynist huckster and several of the leading neocons used to be communists and whatever Hillfarmer says goes, because he has exray eyes.
Under the circumstances, that would make you a supporter of risking our water supply and the sacredness of land ownership and dominion and sovereignty. It’s amazing what some people will trade away.
Having just read Malcolm X’s autobiography (as told by Alex Haley), I am struck by the fact that in the later stages of his life, Malcolm X converted to Sunni Islam, change his name to El Hajj Malik Shabazz, and eschewed the viewpoints of the Nation of Islam. While he still continued to speak of his anger at the treatment of the African American, he no longer spoke of whites being inferior, of racial intermarriage being immoral, or of whites being all “the devil.”
Imagine what could have happened had he and Dr. King both stayed living, and begun to work together, uniting the upper- and middle-class African-Americans (Dr. King), and the lower-class African-Americans (Malcolm X).
Imagine what would have happened had JFK, JFK, Jr., Bobby Kennedy, Paul Wellstone, John Lennon, Pat Tillman and others had “stayed living”.
For one thing, Hillary Clinton never would have won the Senate seat in New York because JFK, Jr. was going to run and he would have won the seat handily. JFK, Jr., had he lived, might have just been elected President and had he been running I think Donald J. Trump would never have run against him.
Paul Wellstone was in George W. Bush’s face regarding the Iraq War. Who knows what Wellstone could have done to stop that illegal war in its tracks?
Pat Tillman was planning on coming home from Iraq to denounce Bush, meet with Noam Chomsky and work with John Kerry to defeat Bush in 2004. Imagine a veteran and football star traveling with Kerry for President? No swift boating there.
Who knows what JFK and Bobby Kennedy might have done? Bobby Kennedy would have won the presidency had he lived.
And John Lennon….the songs we will never hear. The ideas we will never contemplate.
Assassinations alter history in a profound and painful way, eh?
“They provide insight into why he was drawn to black nationalism and the Nation of Islam.”
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My word. Now if a “white person” provided insight as to why they were drawn to “white nationalism” they’d be labeled a BIGOT. Oh the double standard. Oh the irony. My word.
An excellent television program aired several episodes with people just like you in mind.
Ha
Again, another person naive or ignorant to black nationalism. Many black nationalist groups are not advocating killing white people, or harrassing them on the street, or advocating laws that would put white in an explorative environment. Nor are advocating for a systemic racist society to thrive.
I suggest you read more and step out of your comfort zone. Martin Delany (1812–1885), an African-American abolitionist is considered to be one of the founding persons on the idea of Black nationalism. One of many ideas of black nationalism is the idea/notion that White America are NEVER EVER going to accept black people and be willing to end the priviledge they have received from racist institutions and infrastructure.
There are “double standards” that make sense and others that do not. There’s a reason why “women rights” organizations are vital, and why “men rights” organizations are just groups of obnoxious whiners.
While some white people in the US and Europe are acting these days as if they were oppressed minorities, the fact is that they are not, so they come off as cry-babies complaining about the possibility that their privileges might wear off a bit in the future.
“their privileges might wear off a bit in the future…”
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White privilege no longer exists thanks to Lyndon B Johnson. These days one must be black or brown to get a job with the federal government, or to obtain contracts with them. And preferential treatment with college admissions? And quotas? Cut your bullshite.
The unemployment rate for whites in the US is about 4%, and is considerably lower than that of black or brown people. Your annoying whining is sadly not supported by reality.
Jimmy Dore: Keith Ellison Has Questionable Funding Sources & Even Worse Foreign Policy
Jimmy Dore is just the best. He’s absolutely right about Ellison — he’s nothing to get excited about, merely better than the others on offer.
Can’t say Ellison impresses me, particularly, as he’s more politician now than activist.
Ellison Responds to ADL Statement Criticizing Him for ‘Disturbing’ Comments
Trigger warning – his response include these gag-worthy words:
It seems every politician has to say that, for some reason.
This is a great piece on the manufactoversy over Ellison: What’s the Deal With the Smear Campaign Against Possible DNC Chair Keith Ellison? Not surprisingly, Alan Dershowitz starts out saying something decent, and ends up spouting an absurdity of the sort now typical for him since Zionism poisoned his mind:
Moving on to the reasonable people the article cites, my emphasis:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/speakeasy/dont-let-militarys-deadly-pain-ray-machine-invade-la-county-jail
Raytheon, as a matter of policy, does not disclose the cost of the machines, Booen said, adding that he could not comment on how the military has used the devices.The his company is working on much smaller versions of the AIS. Progress on that research is a closely held secret, he added. “That’s our vision,” said Booen. “We want to get to the point where it is a hand-held device.”
Ha ha liberals operating the most obvious, ridiculous and obnoxious double-standards when it comes to application of their usual stigmas of choice – “racist”, bigot and all the other silly shaming words that derive from their idiotic PC cult.
And, as per usual, a ream of fatuous, drawn-out rationalizations to support their pathetic double-standards. You people are a sad joke – you can’t even beat a stupid fake-tanned geriatric loud-mouth even with the full weight of government and the media. Ha.
“Anger, not Bigotry”
Does the same apply to anyone accused of a hate crime? Does it apply to Dylan Roof? Does it apply to David Duke? Does it apply to Me?
No, no, no, and I don’t know.
I will offer no explanation, because any needing it are beyond reason.
This is a plant engineered by anti-Ellison forces.
Again…journalistic trash such as this is the reason why your worst nightmare became president. People like me who were very liberal on most issues are tired of the excuses made for people like this. Admit that this guy is a BLATANT racist and harbors some intense resentment against white people. Its ok. You wont lose face and your lot in life wont be any less because of it. People are sick of this crap. Enjoy your worst nightmare come true for the next four perhaps eight years. You helped to create this situation.
I’m the great grandson of a blind swedish evangelical Baptist Minister. To earn money to bring his family and flock to America he established a broom assembly concern hiring a pool of blind (sightless) workers for whom (certainly in that day and age) few economic opportunities presented themselves.
Essentially he ran a sweatshop for blind people maximizing their profits and keeping labor costs well below the prevailing wage for similar work by sighted persons.
Keith Ellison is a good man. Keith Ellison is a black man. Many black men own their shared individual and collective histories of unjustifiable persecution by (you guessed it chief) generations of old white men . Keith want to protect the rights of all Americans (including yours Malinois) enumerated in the Bill of Rights and our oft amended Constitution.
What does the first part of your answer have to do with the question? Completely bizarre on it’s own in any case. What are you talking about? So sick of weird, crazed left-wing guilt-mongers like you having such a loud voice in public discourse. Keep your weird, creepy racial guilt psychoses to yourself
The first part of my answer was simply the self deprecating recognition of the moral dilemmas and uncomfortable truths we often discover within our own personal or family histories.
My great grandfather (blind himself) essentially took economic advantage of those with a similar affliction for personal enrichment. While I have no “weird creepy psychoses” regarding my forbears exploitation of the disabled for personal gain I do (like most post WWII Germans) feel history should in circumspection inform our assessments of future leaders of any lineage…my simple minded friend.
“I’m the great grandson of a blind swedish evangelical Baptist Minister”
My great grandfather wasn’t blind but, LHM, there are/were mighty few Swedish Baptist ministers in the USA, or Sweden for that matter. Probably they would have had some connection way back when. So Howdy.
Do they still exist? Swedish Baptists, I mean?
My friend, are you saved? :-)
http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/cdm/ref/collection/npu_sahq/id/3325
Many merged into the broader baptist community. Most of mine that wound up on the west coast becoming methodists.
We will see what the future holds for this guy. People can obviously change. My problem is with how the author automatically gives him the benefit of the doubt…I seriously he would do that with Trump or any of the people he has appointed to his cabinet..they are more or less guilty until proven innocent.
What’s your point? Are you saying that Ellison is a racist? If you are, ain’t nothing wrong with that. He has a love for the group that he is a member of and that group has had a peculiar history of subjugation within the United States. Does Ellison practice racism is an altogether different story and he or the members of his group do not have the economic or political wherewithal to practice racism. What’s your point? Trump has been a catalyst for white racists to practice racism. But let’s first see how Trump’s policies are effected for all Americans before we cry wolf. Comprende!
People often seem to get less angry at the establishment the more money they get for not being so.
I’m not a bigot. I’m angry.
Let’s have angry sex and eat some pizza, instead.
No anchovies, please.
smart! in this angry world even the anchovies are angry and upon being trapped in nets, angry enough to poison themselves to ward off eaters.
– not true but the evolution of anger and self preservation has to come to that.
And it’s hilarious that Steve Bannon is a KKK extremist anti-Semite for publishing Breitbart (which employs a bazillion Jews), but Keith Ellison ISN’T anti-Semitic for defending Farrakhan’s monstrous bigotry or proposing a BLACK ETHNOSTATE.
You guys are so clueless. Glad you got your asses handed to you in 2016 and can’t wait for a repeat 2020. Keep doubling down.
I’ve seen no one of any note argue that. Where are you getting it from?
Hope this helps, KGB TROLL:
http://www.salon.com/2016/11/14/steve-bannon-runs-an-anti-semitic-website-is-a-misogynist-and-will-be-one-of-donald-trumps-senior-advisors/
1. I specified “anyone of note.” Who is Steve Rosza, the author of that piece?
2. That article does not claim, as you stated, that ” Steve Bannon is a KKK extremist anti-Semite for publishing Breitbart.” What it does claim, among other things, is:
(Please do not assume I agree with all or any of that analysis. I am merely pointing out that it does not state what you offer it as support for.)
Dear autistic tedious troll,
Steve Rosza is a columnist for a shitty fake news site, sort of like Zaid Jilani. But with a tiny bit of googling you can find a number of notable people calling Bannon an anti-Semite for his supposed connection to the “alt right”.
Also, a common sense reading of “for publishing Breitbart” is for the contents published therein, so I’m not sure where you’re going with it.
You’re dumb as fuck, and also I note you didn’t bother defending Ellison’s support for black separatism because it is indefinsible. He belongs nowhere near the seat of power, but you love him because he believes that our foreign policy is controlled by Zionist lizards.
Good day, hope the weather is nice in Moscow
Why do you read the intercept if you hate what is written here? You’re a nasty, ignorant, little person who obviously feels empowered to be an asshole in an anonymous setting. Big whoop. Go read Breitbart. Your people are there not here.
Aside from being 29 of the 30 commenters on this site, Mona works for JTRIG, the KGB, the Intercept, the DNC, Hamas, the NSA, the CIA, the Self-Hating Zionist Society and the PTA. Apparently she also runs a hot-dog stand on summer weekends and co-directs the “I’ve got your Christmas right here” pageant every year, all on top of writing frequent articles under the names of Max Blumenthal and Zaid Jilani. I don’t know how she finds the time, I really don’t.
HAHAHA. That was very good.
If one were to believe the various — often nearly simultaneous — accusations hurled at Glenn Greenwald on Twitter, he is a: libertarian, Koch-funded, Marxist, terrorist-supporting, self-hating Jew who is controlled by Vladimir Putin — whom he worships — when he isn’t busy praising Allah on behalf of Hillary Clinton for whom he campaigned with tenacity while he was working to make Donald Trump POTUS.
I apparently am just as diverse in my person.
You gotta love the Internet.
“Potential DNC Leader Keith Ellison’s Controversial Law School Columns Show Anger, Not Bigotry”
“The conservative World Net Daily and Daily Caller websites recently ran articles decrying Ellison, who used the pen name “Keith Hakim” for one particular column they read as advocacy for a separate nation for black Americans — which is indeed an extreme policy proposal.”
The Intercept is home to the most bizarre apologists. Weren’t you guys calling Richard Spencer a neo-nazi for the same extreme policy proposal?
When an intelligent grounded young man is coming up he investigates and experiments with his own current and past cultural narratives on the path to self actualization.
Yesterday he voted with libertarians and strict constitutionalists against congress approving funded for the 93-page HR 6393, which according to Russia Today (rt.com) passed by the House in a 390-30 vote on Wednesday, calls for setting up a new, interagency panel to suppress Russia’s alleged attempts to “exert covert influence over peoples and governments,” the Washington Post also reported.
Russia Today (rt.com) continued the panel would be tasked with “countering active measures by Russia to exert covert influence, including exposing falsehoods, agents of influence, corruption, human rights abuses, terrorism and assassinations carried out by the security services or political elites of the Russian Federation or their proxies,” the draft legislation goes on to say…
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2016/h593
This is hilarious! So the left-wing media have been playing six degrees of white nationalism with Donald Trump for the entire election season. And now Ellison is running for the DNC and their claiming it wasn’t the antisemitism or black supremacist rhetoric that attracted Ellison to the NOI. So what did attract him? He just really wanted to be part of a UFO cult and he felt more comfortable there than with those Heaven’s Gate honkies? Either way I’m sure he’s the guy who’ll keep New England blue and bring back Iowa.
With a great deal of compelling support. The above article is but one example of this.
Moreover, even if Ellison had been attracted to the NOI for those reasons, this would be as understandable as the black intellectuals who joined the CPUSA back in the day. The country was a Jim Crow mess with lynchings and deep, oppressive racism harming black people severely. Victimized peoples will nearly always include some who endorse any source — even morally awful ones — offering support and relief.
Say what you will about the CPUSA I don’t think they believed that white people were a race of “devils” created by a scientist named Yakub on the Greek island of Patmos.
BTW how old do you think Ellison is anyways? He grew up in Michigan in the 80s, not Alabama in the 20s. His dad was a psychiatrist, not a sharecropper.
That’s all a pile of non sequitur.
“Moreover, even if Ellison had been attracted to the NOI for those reasons, this would be […] understandable”
If it’s for those reasons, then what makes that understandable?
You can visit his website, ellison.house.gov, and see where he clearly states that he wants anyone but white males to apply for internships in his office. This is current day, December 1st, 2016, so I guess that part of his bigotry hasn’t changed.
I went to the page and this is what I got:
Are you of the impression that there’s a problem with this language, or did you read something different?
Unfortunately, this kind of “boilerplate” is a standard feature of affirmative action. I’m thinking you must be from outside the U.S., since people who apply for jobs here see a lot of that stuff. The companies write it that way even though they often have fewer minorities or women than chance would suggest, or pay them systematically less. Nonetheless, the biased-sounding text is indeed one of the things that fuels the resentful unemployed who end up going for Trump after having bad luck with a lot of postings written like that.
Thanks Jose for some of that hard to come by “Real” News. Close Call.
Perhaps Kashes (Cassius) is not “the greatest” after all.
I don’t understand how you reach that conclusion from the following statement on his website: “While Congressman Ellison encourages all individuals to apply, applicants with strong ties to the Fifth District or Minnesota are preferred. People of color, LGBTQ individuals, women, and people with disabilities are strongly encouraged to apply.”
Maybe he just likes to fuck a lot , I’d want all girls working for me to , an entourage like Gaddafi’s.
If a white man had published a column in his uni newspaper defending a white supremacist organization and the establishment of a white ethnostate, there would be no liberal apologetics and calls for nuance. He would be forbidden from holding elected office and publicly condemned by the pundit class and media-academic complex until he faded into irrelevance. But since this is a Muslim black (i.e. double grievance points) who advocated for minority supremacy, he is invulnerable to criticism from the left and is encouraged to lead the second most powerful political party in the United States.
Do the Democrats like failing or something? I understand that every white person in the party has some sort of masochistic disorder, but that need to flagellate oneself in the name of sanctimony appears to be spreading to people of pigment. I can’t think of a surer formula for more democratic rejection than repeatedly antagonizing white voters.
There are situations where claims of “false equivalence” do apply. In particular, discourse about race (or gender, or disability) often fails to consider relationships of power. So, for example, the KKK is not equivalent to the African National Congress during Apartheid South Africa. It just isn’t. Why? Power and oppression dynamics.
Well said.
The United States was founded in white supremacy and it’s entire history has been one of issuing and laws and policies — and fostering writing and mores — that are white supremacist, overtly or in function. To understate, many of the whites behind all of those things have populated elected offices at federal, state and municipal levels.
Quite literally, whites initiated so-called “identity politics,” foisting a negative, non-white identity on others.
People should know that -Mona- is likely a paid KGB troll. Russian intelligence agencies have revealed that they actively infiltrate online communities.
You can read about it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
Um, I am known to many people here, including my last name and professional history with one of this site’s founders. Not that I doubt Russians try to game social media and comments, just as the Zionists, the Clinton campaign and many other nations and interest groups do.
Indeed, I myself have concluded that certain accounts represent both of those interests. But I do observe longer before stating such a verdict — and have a more informed basis for it — than you have even begun to demonstrate.
Did the ANC go around lynching people and burning houses?
The ANC did engage in violence, yes.
This sentence: If a white man had published a column in his uni newspaper defending a white supremacist organization and the establishment of a white ethnostate, there would be no liberal apologetics and calls for nuance.
This statement pretends like the last 400 years never happened.
Year zero is a convenient starting point for all newborns. Clean slate and all.
I think a one-time racist who changed his tune should also be evaluated based on what he did more recently than 36 years ago. YES, I want the dossiers to be thrown away on blacks and whites alike.
Actually white people with all kinds of sordid backgrounds are being invited into the cabinet of the P elect (grab em by the pussy) OTUS.
That’s all well and good, it doesn’t change the fact though that his current foreign policy stances are in line with HRC et al.
He was actively cheering the Libya disaster and was boasting how hey got away with it without having to send in many troops and have a lot of backlash being seen as occupiers. Sort of a the same desensiblization we see when it comes to the drone prog. by Obama. Suddenly the ire of the world and the “liberals” is not there anymore.
I do realize that Dean is a sellout and a sort of “worse” candidate, but there’s enough outlets out there sucking up to the “war party”. Just because some Israeli groups, friends and official are nervous about Ellison, doesn’t mean he would substantially change anything at all, since the foreign policy he has adhered to and defended is in line with exactly what they want anyway. He would just be a nuisance in terms of PR work at times like Obama has been. Nothing changed though.
The problem with the US paying reparations is a pragmatic one: There are lots of groups and countries it would need to pay reparations to, if there was a precedent. The entire wealth of the US might not cover it.
But enough to cover wars?
No, the problem with demanding reparations is that it’s based on Original Sin logic: that we should be held responsible for the sins of our fore bearers. Society does not work that way, and for good reason. Ideally, we should judge people not on birthright, but on an individual level, based on person decisions and actions. A concept you ought to be able to relate to.
That’s nonsense. Reparations are about responsibility of a nation state. It’s very common for countries to compensate victims of their actions. Nation states are brought to trial and made to pay damages. That in no way means every citizen of the nation state is guilty, even if there’s fiscal impact that affects ordinary citizens. That’s just the way it is.
I don’t know what that’s supposed to mean.
No, nation states are not autonomous creatures with a hoards of gold and silver. The money of a nation is entirely paid for by every single citizen/person who pays a tax (everyone). So if any reparations are paid by a nation, rather than by the culprit/s, then very many innocent people are made to pay for the crimes of others.
You’re right though…it in no way means that every citizen of that nation is guilty. They’re just punished equally as if they were guilty.
What you’re saying would invalidate countless trials against nation states. That’s just not how things work. Sometimes it’s impossible to find a “culprit” other than the state.
After the media gets done raking Keith over the coals on this he won’t be elected dog catcher. It’s just who they are and what they do.
Investigate all of Trumps shady past, meh.
If we’re going to let a bunch of bastards digging out stuff from 1990 control who we select in political offices, we should just cut all the bullshit and ask the NSA to tell us who to put in charge. I mean seriously, dossier politics means all power goes to those with the most dossiers in their files, and that’s the NSA. We need not look further, in any regard, for any decision, if we’re going to be scandalized by some college column.
We’re going to have a president who changes his mind every two months – why can’t we have a DNC leader who changes his mind once in 36 years? We are going to have a president who is accused of bigotry, why can’t we have a DNC leader who is accused of bigotry?
I’m not saying Ellison should be the guy. It is a perfectly legitimate position to say that he’s a Muslim, and Muslims are unelectable, so you want somebody else to improve your odds in the election. Maybe that’s bigoted, maybe it’s practical. Whatever. I grew up in a time when everyone said Jesse Jackson was unelectable, so it’s nothing new to me. But for the love of Gh0d, do not take the seeming cop-out of picking up a scrap of paper somebody dropped out of a dossier. Because if you think you’re opting out of practical bigotry, you’re opting in to direct rule by the NSA, and that is more worrisome.
While I agree with you that random writings of people shouldn’t necessarily be perceived as deal-breakers, I do think these things are informative in giving insight about how given people have evolved in their thinking and/or positions.
It is a perfectly legitimate position to say that he’s a Muslim, and Muslims are unelectable, so you want somebody else to improve your odds in the election.
Actually, the fact that Ellison is a US Representative disproves the above statement. He did get elected for that position, in spite of the bigotry of people in his own district. That also speaks to the alleged legitimacy of your statement as well, imho.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%27s_5th_congressional_district – his district isn’t “gerrymandered” per se, but it is an urban district centered on Minneapolis with a D+22% rating, the most Democratic district in his state. I presume it is also highly enriched in minorities. To win a *presidential* or *senatorial* election, let alone in states more conservative than Minnesota, the Democrats have to win the *entire* state, not just the big city.
NSA “dossier politic”s as described by Russ Tice a former intelligence analyst for the United States Air Force, Office of Naval Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, and National Security Agency
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Lurd5QvZA