The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on Thursday unveiled its full 37-page report on its three-year investigation into Edward Snowden, drawing even more criticism for conclusions that have been called biased by supporters of the former NSA contractor.
The report, released just days before a holiday weekend, is an extended version of a highly acerbic — and disputed — unclassified summary the committee published in September, describing the former NSA contractor as a “serial exaggerator and fabricator.”
Snowden and other critics have vehemently denied the report’s conclusions.
The House Committee authors allege Snowden’s concerns had more to do with petty workplace spats than moral uncertainty, citing interviews with his coworkers as well as his superiors — and suggest that he is not legally a whistleblower because he did not take advantage of internal channels available for formal complaints such as Congress and the inspector general.
Snowden quickly derided the report, which delves into his personal and professional life, often citing seemingly petty workplace grievances. He tweeted to his more than 2.5 million followers that the document is “rifled with obvious falsehoods” — citing reporting by Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Barton Gellman, who has also criticized the report.
The extended report, according to U.S. News & World Report, actually addresses some factual concerns critics had about the summary published in September. The original report argued Snowden overstated his injuries and lied about his education, while the full investigation includes contrary evidence.
Expanding on Snowden’s career in the CIA, NSA, and the private sector as a contractor to the intelligence community, the report accuses the former systems administrator of regularly meeting with Russian intelligence agents since his arrival in Moscow, where he is currently living in exile. He fled after sharing classified documents with journalists (including Intercept co-founders Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras) detailing to the NSA’s global surveillance regime.
After attempting to make his way to Ecuador, he was stranded in Russia when the U.S. revoked his passport. Snowden has said he would return home if he could have a fair trial and the right to argue a public interest defense of his actions, something not permitted under the Espionage Act.
Snowden directly challenged the assertion he is in any kind of contact with Russian intelligence agents — pointing to a mistranslation in the report from a Russian ambassador. According to Snowden, NPR cut the ambassador off before he could say he was merely speculating that Snowden had provided the Kremlin with intelligence. Plus, Snowden notes, he is regularly critical of Russian policy at the risk of his own safety and security.
According to the House Committee, Snowden began stealing internal documents much earlier than he has admitted, shattering his timeline of an alleged breaking point in 2013 when Director of National Intelligence James Clapper distorted information about NSA surveillance during a congressional hearing.
The report also still includes extensive redactions, including 13 “high risk” national security consequences of Snowden’s actions. Much of the report’s explanation of how Snowden took the information also remains secret.
Some members of Congress celebrated the report’s declassification.
“The American people have every right to know the extent of the damage Edward Snowden did to our national security, and I applaud the declassification of the House Intelligence Committee’s report,” Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga., the chair of the NSA and Cybersecurity Subcommittee, wrote in a statement on Thursday.
After challenging many points, Snowden turned to the committee’s attacks on his character: “Was I pain in the ass to work with? Perhaps; many technologists are. But this report establishes no worse.”
He doesn’t need to come back to a cage. Nothing less than a pardon. It’s not like they’ve reversed anything. NSA Utah Data Center fully functional https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/
It all feels unnerving actually. I know i’ve changed my behavior as a result.
It feels uncertain.
Free Snowden and let him be. He did take actions to try to get higher ups to listen. They refused. Now he pays the price for trying to awaken a nation to the truth about the NSA and our own government policy. What has been gained by the continuation of the data sweeps? Military budgets aside, protecting the people has clearly not been the only aim, using these “sweep” methods. Unethical people will do anything to feel powerful. The facts offered up by Snowden and the reaction from our own President and Congress have proven to split the People and create even more distrust of our own Congress and President. It is no wonder to me that this nation has voted in a con artist as our next president..It is time to stop the current policy on bashing those who try to bring out the truth to the nation. We are a nation losing its self-respect and using its own policy to continue with unfettered corporate greed ideas, taking us all down a dark hole. Stop the self-destruction and begin to “act” like we have good sense when people try to do ethical things.
The founders of the US did not foresee the corruption of the courts and did not provide recourse of by and for the people except the right to bear arms.
The constitution needs an upgrade to include SPECIAL RIGHTS for whistleblowers because those people close to the source of corruption are in the best position to nip it in the bud before it becomes the full blown cancer we have today.
bottom line Snowden is a brilliant individual, and his insights and comments are spot on in most cases. He did a tremendous service to the free world and progressives everywhere by stating the obvious: the emperor has no clothes.
Every government needs a scapegoat and today Snowden fits the bill. The US government is nothing but lies about most everything and it’s refreshing to get unfettered actual news without the propagandist spin which is Washington’s bread and butter and keeps them funded with a bloated military budget with virtually no oversight. Rarely does a whistleblower get a fair shake and usually their lives are destroyed completely. Around 95-97% end in tragedy regardless of the ‘rules’ in place. The rules are to make lawmakers happy instead of the squealing individual which have very little luck producing factual information. Thanks Ed, we owe a debt of gratitude for your courage to let Americans see the power of the US government and the lengths they invoke to silence perceived threats.
I would believe Snowden before I would believe most any member of Congress or any other body of our government. Snowden is one of my heroes.
You call it falsehoods. I would call it a disinformation campaign worthy of Goebbles propaganda ministry in Germany.
The PIMPED OUT WHORES IN CONGRESS are determined to declare Russia as an enemy in order to extort billions from the population. The pimped out whores in office are in a sandbox throwing tantrums because they selfishly want to be characterised as important and get paid for it. THEY ARE DELUSIONAL. They are the ones who removed Sadam Hussein and destroyed stability.
They falsely blame Russia for hacking. Their latest argument is that they knew about the hacking attempts early on.
YET THEY FAILED TO BLOCK THE IP RANGE.
YOU CANNOT HACK A SYSTEM IF YOUR IP IS BLOCKED.
YOU CAN BUY A ROUTER FOR $500 AND BLOCK ALL OF RUSSIA.
the US CONGRESS is NOTHING BUT PIMPED OUT THIEVING LYING WHORES for WARS.
This report is the 1st installment.. in the Post-Truth era. Watch for more.
He’s still an American hero, and our government and its US “intelligence” apparatus is still a den of crooks and liars.
The only good and relevant thing about the bogus report that it shows the same bought & paid for game plan as corporate media is that it has put a spot light on all the corrupt officials ignorantly applauding it that we as Americans and citizens of the world need to oust from their comfy little-big offices in our capitol. How does the saying go: Just do it!
I wish there was more information on the conflicting dates when Snowden first began collecting the information.
The allegation that he became a whistleblower after a workplace dispute is absurd. The report seems to ignore the possibility that he began collecting the data before he hit his breaking point, unless he himself claimed he only began collecting data after hitting the breaking point?
What actually interests me is that if he was collecting data much earlier, that meant he was going to work, day by day, in the literal underground belly of the beast without letting his nerves ruin him. That’s impressive.
I must add, I hope he stays in Russia. I mean I hope he stays safe, and there is clearly so much arrogant animosity toward him in the IC that I have trouble believing he could ever really be safe again in the US.
the report “suggest that he is not legally a whistleblower because he did not take advantage of internal channels available for formal complaints such as Congress and the inspector general” euh?
Check whistleblower history to see how internal channels behave with them (list of whistleblowers in wikipedia)
An exemple : Jeffrey sterling went to the Senate Intelligence Committee and not only fired by management but harassed and threatened for years.
https://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/12/exclusive_cia_whistleblower_jeffrey_sterling_speaks
Snowden reported from the beginning that he attempted to report through internal channels and was rebuffed. Why does everyone forget this?
the report “suggest that he is not legally a whistleblower because he did not take advantage of internal channels available for formal complaints such as Congress and the inspector general”
Just have a look to whistleblower’s history and make up you mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_whistleblowers
An exemple : Jeffrey Sterling, former cia agent, followed the channel and was not only fired but harassed, threatened for years.
https://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/12/exclusive_cia_whistleblower_jeffrey_sterling_speaks
Snowden means “riddled,” not “rifled.” And this whole time I thought he was smart. /s
“Snowden means “riddled,” not “rifled.” And this whole time I thought he was smart. /s”
The word is RIFE. Look it up (I posted the definition below).
“And this whole time I thought [I] was smart.”
I hope you don’t write exams …
You are welcome:)
Yeah, I tweeted Snowden he should look up rifled, riddled, and rife. But riddled or rife works. No need to be an asshole about it, you fucking asshole.
lol!
Rife is much closer to rifled than riddled.
I think you’d enjoy pointing out such a distinction to a student. I don’t have to imagine your response when, as an instructor, you are confronted with your poor intellectual performance.
I was going to call out this error, too. Either “riddled” or “rife”. NOT “rifled”.
HILARIOUS! Lynn WESTMORELAND…a surname that signifies trust and integrity in America.
Proof positive that the USA is a nepotistic, fascist nation…the joke of the world.
Many people will agree that the US government’s credibility when putting forward its case on matters of ‘security’ is pretty low. Simply because it has such a very long history of lying and propagating misinformation.
Anyway, it really doesn’t matter why or how Snowden obtained the documents, it is the content of those documents that matters. No intelligent person is going to be distracted by petty squabbling over the details of Snowden’s employment.
Snowden, like Assange, is a soviet mole. Beware of the Russian agents. Trump is the Manchurian candidate. All you Drumpf a phants a nothing but “Putin Puppets”. It’s really laughable. Those idiots who think they are so anti establishment are nothing but pawns of the Russians.
Because Assange and Snowden are simply revealing the truth doesn’t make them “Soviet” moles. However, I might agree that Wikileaks (and Assange) are a Mossad operation and that Snowden was/is a CIA patsy used to embarrass the NSA. The CIA are still chasing Assange, who doesn’t leak anti-Israeli info, while they let Snowden escape, in Hong Kong, to Russia.
And you have proof of these crazy, deranged theories, correct? Let’s see one shred of evidence please.
Newsflash! Clinton lost! You can stop pretending and making up Russian BS now. No one was buying through the election (except Clinton idiots) and no one is buying it now.
The “Soviet Union” no longer exists. Beware of CIA sock puppets. Clinton was the Deep State Manchurian candidate. Jabber1 is a pawn in the CIAs game,
Surely you prefer rattling economic sabres with China than rattling nuclear sabres with Russia and Iran while we wind up the John Brennans Syrian war.
Many of Trumps personnel moves (Mattis, Flynn, Tillerson, Haley) improve Americas relations with Russia and Russia, Turkey and Iran can make quick progress in Syria now if CIA assets (Paid Assassins, Samantha Power and the Western MSM) stop killing off successful ambassadors and political operatives, sabotaging every stage of independent multi-lateral or formal UN negotiations, and refrain from making unsubstantiated accusations of murder and genocide against sovereign nation states.
The proof of the US MSM press outlet complicity in advancing the CIAs globalist neocon agenda is clearly proven by the Clinton Foundations, DNCs and John Podestas email archives. If Wikileaks had released those records sooner Bernie would have beat Trump in the rust belt and Vladimir Putin would have succeeded in installing a socialist populist as the leader of our emerging US oligarchy.
CLOWNS IN ACTION: Incongruously enough our current and future CIA Directors John Brennan and Mike Pompeo both support President Obamas hard lines on Russia and Syria. Pompeo went so far as to buck his own party and support Obama, Kerry and Powers demands to use military force quick now in a hurry following the later disproven CIA sanctioned misattribution of (what Flynn described as what was most likely a false flag) that exceedingly well documented Sarin gas attack to the Syrian government themselves .
jabber is another one of those Conspiracy Theorists.
go back to israel
Since James Clapper has yet to be brought up on perjury charges for lying to Sen. Wyden in a hearing of Congress, anything he and his fellow spooks say should be viewed as bunk unless 100% independently verifiable (which is almost never).
Free Snowden, jail Clapper and the rest of the corrupt Establishment politicians and bureaucrats.
My occasional substantive submissions are being quashed on all lists. Given what is still getting posted and the quality of my past submissions please find out why Mr. Omyidar. It’s not like I’m providing aid and comfort to my fellow citizens in a constitutional democracy or fomenting unrest. Thanks in advance.
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“They” just let through five (5) minimalist comments on the newly declassified house intel report on Edwards public service. Eds
disclosures revealed was the US Militarys wholesale monitoring of
the ever increasing pools Gamers participating in virtual conflict management as in World of Warcraft, Second Sight and Call of Duty.
Eds disclosures about the surveillance of Gaming Communities made it possible to assess what value that enormous pool of raw data (see recent TI VR story for details) on unwitting human subjects has beyond the remote possibility two users (among millions) might used by dangerous terrorists (like the Grey Panthers, Food Stamps Recipients or the current leadership of Occupy or Black Lives Matter) as stealth vehicles for communicating their nefarious intent.
WNT: Both qualia (‘actually feeling something’) and free will are paranormal phenomena, and like all paranormal phenomena, they depend on precognition; this phenomenon, though dangerous on a macro scale, is necessary to generate causality violations that form boundary conditions of the universe. So the people so treated will say they are doing well, they will write beautiful concertos, they will cry over their children in the hospital, they will go to church and pray, but there is nothing inside of them – they aren’t really living at all. You could skin one alive and commit no more of a crime than if you were peeling a potato, no matter how she screams and begs for mercy, because there is no one in there to feel it. But no one will know that.
CHRISTIAN: My take is like Hameroffs and Chopras where qualia and free will are both Quantum AND Paranormal Phenomena.
According to Stuart Hameroff Quantum Phenomena (qualia and the exercise of free will) require almost no energy and can be driven by something as minimal as ambient room temperature. I would put it to you that if quantum phenomena can be driven by almost no energy those same phenomena may very well may be driven faster and farther by more substantial energy sources available among and through shared technologies we surround ourselves with up to and including specific elements of the TAO catalogs “Angry Neighbor” set of tools. Some of these Angry Neighbor “surveillance” tools from the FBIs own catalog are designed to send a beam of energy into every device in your network AND (wait for it) a beam of energy into YOU as well (According to Jacob Appelbaum and Julian Assange “To Protect and Infect” in his presentation at Germanys Chaos Computer Conference on December 31st 2013).
One wonders which forms of such directed energy (sorry Mona ;-) might generate specific individuated quantum effects.
QUESTION FOR WNT: Why do you assert that paranormal phenomenas’ dependence on precognition is necessarily dangerous on a macroscale?
ESSENTIAL REFERENCE MATERIALS 1: Quantum CONSCIOUSNESS – A conversation with Deepak Chopra and Stuart Hameroff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSd5xep30w
ESSENTIAL REFERENCE MATERIALS 2: From Quanta to Qualia: How a Paradigm Shift Turns Into Science 2014 Chapman University Chapman University Digital Commons Mathematics, Physics, and Computer Science Faculty Articles and Research
http://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1172&context=scs_articles
Qualia take us on a journey to the place where mind, operating “in here,” produces the sight, sound, texture, taste, and smell of the world “out there.” To date, the duality between “in here” and “out there” has forced science to choose data and theory over experience. In essence, consciousness becomes the elephant in the room, a participant in every human activity including mathematical calculation that is never acknowledged.
Qualia science will resolve the core problem in duality, the vexed relationship between mind and body. Instead of pursuing the fruitless goal of discovering how atoms and molecules learn to think, qualia science takes consciousness as primary in the universe, not a secondary product of brain processes. The so-called “hard problem” becomes easy once this step is taken, because it is much easier to show how mind creates matter than the reverse—one only has to account for the qualities of matter (solidity, weight, mass, and momentum), which are adduced entirely from experience of these qualities. Understandably, there is considerable resistance placing consciousness first, after so many decades of considering it a barely respectable subject for science. There will be birth pains and intellectual crises. But it has become increasingly evident in theoretical physics that far from closing in on the nature of reality, our present understanding of space, time, matter, energy, and gravity—not to mention the all but unknowable domains of “dark” matter and energy—has become shaky and may in the end prove untenable.
Snowden was a sysadmin not a ‘technologist’.
“Rifled”? Lmao someone buy Ed a dictionary.
I suspect he may have had the words “rife” and “riddled” in mind as he typed. ;)
Fucking Auto-correct.
First thing I noticed. Hard to take someone seriously when they misuse the English language. And for those who think it doesn’t matter, it does.
“First thing I noticed. Hard to take someone seriously when they misuse the English language. ”
That the editor chose the headline with an obvious auto-correct error is the worry.
Nothing like a little mud thrown Snowden’s way.
Uh, the column is written by JENNA. Please try, at least, to give the impression that you are keeping up.
Learn all you can and question all that you learn especially if you learn it from a congressman.
Here are some other Doubting Thomas considerations:
Does terrorist training involve certification that you are proficient in leaving your ID behind to be easily found?
The man that did the recent Christmas German truck butchery apparently left his in the truck he used.
Remember the 9/11 terrorists conveniently left behind a suit case with their ID’s.
At least one of those same terrorists’ passports was found on a NY street. They must have packed their passport in such a way that it survived the explosion despite the whole building being blown up. Perhaps the terrorists are also certified in protecting their left behind ID’s at a similar level as that of a Black Box Flight Recorder.
It is amazing how we cannot find WMD in Iraq, or the $2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon budget as mentioned by Rumsfeld the morning before 9/11, but we always seem to find terrorist ID’s ever so conveniently left behind.
In a Poll done by the Denver Post almost 54% of the people responded that Edward Snowden should be pardoned?
Even after the elites corporate controlled media did all in its power to trash Snowden
KRC Research poll results shared with U.S. News showed thirty-six percent of Americans hold a positive opinion of him.
Compare that to, the now even lower than car salesmen, meager 8% approval rate of Congress that released another 37 pages in service to their funders.
A poll of Americans and people living in nine other Western countries has found exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden is far more popular abroad than he is at home.
In Germany and Italy, 84 percent of adults familiar with Snowden view him positively. The figure is about 80 percent in France, the Netherlands and Spain. Australians aware of Snowden give him a 64 percent favorability rating. A 58 percent majority of Canadians, a 54 percent majority of Britons and a 51 percent majority of New Zealand residents familiar with Snowden view him favorably.
The Congress says what? With ~ 10% approval rating it is one of the fakest of fake news sources.
I think it is now 8% and dipping below that of used car salesmen.
You’re still giving them too much credit. ;)
You’re still comparing them to others humans. I was thinking of a slug or leech as a suitable comparison.
I might swerve ever so slightly to avoid a slug in the road.
In a Poll done by the Denver Post almost 54% of the people responded that Edward Snowden should be pardoned?
Even after the elites corporate controlled media did all in its power to trash Snowden
KRC Research poll results shared with U.S. News showed thirty-six percent of Americans hold a positive opinion of him.
Compare that to, the now even lower than car salesmen, meager 8% approval rate of those scoundrels in Congress that released another 37 pages in service to their funders.
A poll of Americans and people living in nine other Western countries has found exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden is far more popular abroad than he is at home.
In Germany and Italy, 84 percent of adults familiar with Snowden view him positively. The figure is about 80 percent in France, the Netherlands and Spain. Australians aware of Snowden give him a 64 percent favorability rating. A 58 percent majority of Canadians, a 54 percent majority of Britons and a 51 percent majority of New Zealand residents familiar with Snowden view him favorably.
“Fake news”. Snowden is a hero!
Even after the elites corporate controlled media did all in its power to trash Snowden
KRC Research poll results shared with U.S. News showed thirty-six percent of Americans hold a positive opinion of him.
Compare that to, the now even lower than car salesmen, meager 8% approval rate of those scoundrels in Congress that released another 37 pages in service to their funders.
A poll of Americans and people living in nine other Western countries has found exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden is far more popular abroad than he is at home.
In Germany and Italy, 84 percent of adults familiar with Snowden view him positively. The figure is about 80 percent in France, the Netherlands and Spain. Australians aware of Snowden give him a 64 percent favorability rating. A 58 percent majority of Canadians, a 54 percent majority of Britons and a 51 percent majority of New Zealand residents familiar with Snowden view him favorably.
Even after the elites corporate controlled media did all in its power to trash Snowden
KRC Research poll results shared with U.S. News showed thirty-six percent of Americans hold a positive opinion of him.
Compare that to, the now even lower than car salesmen, meager 8% approval rate of those scoundrels in Congress that released another 37 pages in service to their funders.
A poll of Americans and people living in nine other Western countries has found exiled whistleblower Edward Snowden is far more popular abroad than he is at home.
In Germany and Italy, 84 percent of adults familiar with Snowden view him positively. The figure is about 80 percent in France, the Netherlands and Spain. Australians aware of Snowden give him a 64 percent favorability rating. A 58 percent majority of Canadians, a 54 percent majority of Britons, and a 51 percent majority of New Zealand residents familiar with Snowden view him favorably.
Test message response for Wnt on VR list as Intercept Posting Problems Compound.
WNT: Both qualia (‘actually feeling something’) and free will are paranormal phenomena, and like all paranormal phenomena, they depend on precognition; this phenomenon, though dangerous on a macro scale, is necessary to generate causality violations that form boundary conditions of the universe. So the people so treated will say they are doing well, they will write beautiful concertos, they will cry over their children in the hospital, they will go to church and pray, but there is nothing inside of them – they aren’t really living at all. You could skin one alive and commit no more of a crime than if you were peeling a potato, no matter how she screams and begs for mercy, because there is no one in there to feel it. But no one will know that.
CHRISTIAN: My take is like Hameroffs and Chopras where qualia and free will are both Quantum AND Paranormal Phenomena.
According to Stuart Hameroff Quantum Phenomena (qualia and the exercise of free will) require almost no energy and can be driven by something as minimal as ambient room temperature. I would put it to you that if quantum phenomena can be driven by almost no energy those same phenomena may very well may be driven faster and farther by more substantial energy sources available among and through shared technologies we surround ourselves with up to and including specific elements of the TAO catalogs “Angry Neighbor” set of tools.
Some of these Angry Neighbor “surveillance” tools from the FBIs own catalog are designed to send a beam of energy into every device in your network AND (wait for it) a beam of energy into YOU as well (According to Jacob Appelbaum and Julian Assange “To Protect and Infect” in his presentation at Germanys Chaos Computer Conference on December 31st 2013).
One wonders which forms of such directed energy (sorry Mona ;-) might generate specific individuated quantum effects.
QUESTION FOR WNT: Why do you assert that paranormal phenomenas’ dependence on precognition is necessarily dangerous on a macroscale?
ESSENTIAL REFERENCE MATERIALS 1: Quantum CONSCIOUSNESS – A conversation with Deepak Chopra and Stuart Hameroff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSd5xep30w
ESSENTIAL REFERENCE MATERIALS 2: From Quanta to Qualia: How a Paradigm Shift Turns Into Science 2014 Chapman University Chapman University Digital Commons Mathematics, Physics, and Computer Science Faculty Articles and Research
http://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1172&context=scs_articles
Qualia take us on a journey to the place where mind, operating “in here,” produces the sight, sound, texture, taste, and smell of the world “out there.” To date, the duality between “in here” and “out there” has forced science to choose data and theory over experience. In essence, consciousness becomes the elephant in the room, a participant in every human activity including mathematical calculation that is never acknowledged.
Qualia science will resolve the core problem in duality, the vexed relationship between mind and body. Instead of pursuing the fruitless goal of discovering how atoms and molecules learn to think, qualia science takes consciousness as primary in the universe, not a secondary product of brain processes. The so-called “hard problem” becomes easy once this step is taken, because it is much easier to show how mind creates matter than the reverse—one only has to account for the qualities of matter (solidity, weight, mass, and momentum), which are adduced entirely from experience of these qualities.
Understandably, there is considerable resistance placing consciousness first, after so many decades of considering it a barely respectable subject for science. There will be birth pains and intellectual crises. But it has become increasingly evident in theoretical physics that far from closing in on the nature of reality, our present understanding of space, time, matter, energy, and gravity—not to mention the all but unknowable domains of “dark” matter and energy—has become shaky and may in the end prove untenable.
Plz. Stahp.
Just More Anecdotal Data for Intercept Discussion Board Troubleshooters
Their Departmental Emails (Legal etc>) Havent Been Working
Sorry Novae. Discussion board message latency issues and content / format based inclusions / exclusions widespread. Used those as test messages. Testing number of links. Message lengths. Lengths between messages. Submitting same messages EX: two weeks ago if you sent the same message twice the intercept site would throw up a dialog box telling you you’d already submitted such a message. Sometimes (1 out of 3) I even received that “you’ve already sent this message” dialog box” WHEN I HAD NOT sent that message. Its pretty squirrely in there. Mi Apologia.
Snowden is a hero and 0Bama should pardon him.
Correct, but don’t hold your breath.
As Obama rightly points out, he can’t a person who hasn’t been charged and convicted. But would you risk the US “justice” system for a “possible” pardon? I’d stay in Russia. Snowden has served his handlers’ purpose – embarrassing the NSA – and now he’s been discarded.
Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon even though he had only been indicted & neither tried nor convicted. The Establishment–both Republican & Democrat–praised the unelected President for saving the nation from a traumatic experience. So it is alright to pardon people who’ve yet to appear in court. As for the NSA embarrassment at having their flagrant violations of the Constitution exposed…..I really feel their pain.
Nonsense. Obama can pardon him.
Nixon was pardoned by Ford. And Nixon never saw the inside of a courtroom, let alone ” charged and convicted” as you state.
Quit believing Obama lies.
Uh. Ford pardoned Nixon before he was charged or convicted. So if Obama said that is a reason, he is incorrect.
“Rifled”? Don’t you mean “riddled” with falsehoods? Tsk.
Rifled
As in shot full of holes. So many falsehoods as so the average reader can see right through it. Duh.
I’ll wager the word he was going for was >rife.
Rifled refers to the groves in a barrel or it can describe an explosive charge with insufficient stemming to contain the blast; it shoots out of the bore-hole like a rifle (more like a cannon).
Understood. I thought of it as a supposed legitimate report being shot up with lies.
Congressional reports are meant to be honest investigations although we know the truth varies somewhat.
Another example: someone rifled through my apartment looking for cash.
An action for damaging something or doing something in a hurried way.
“Another example: someone rifled through my apartment looking for cash.”
Good one.
“Rifled”? Don’t you mean “riddled” with falsehoods?
The fact that US congress “found” however baseless that Snowden was/is the under control of Russian intelligence while TIC is not on the ProPormOT list that claims specifically that it lists sites that have contacts/under influence of Russian intelligence, reveals it as a CIA psyop against certain independent journalistic interests but no against US corporate run media as TIC and MSM is.
“..describing the former NSA contractor as a “serial exaggerator and fabricator.”
The House committee is merely observing itself in a mirror. Lie on, legislators..
Eventually our corporate owned government will have him killed, making it look accidental, or they will set up a situation such as tasking a so-called unbalanced patriot to do the job, or pay a foreign national, who is immediately executed, by police, similar to the Jack Ruby killing of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Anyone who believes our corporate owned government has any care, consideration, or empathy, for anyone or anything, other than the accumulation of the wealth of the planet, is simply naive.
Merry Christmas Ed and Lindsey. Thanks for everything.
just more Government propaganda, they keep telling lies until it becomes the truth & will continue to do so ! That is what fascist governments do !
I’ll buy anything Congress sells, particularly about whistleblowers, the day they again uphold constitutional oversight responsibilities to investigate and defund Executive Branch criminal activities, especially known torture-murder war crimes and bombing countries we’re not at war with. Passing strict new laws protecting ALL whistleblowers would really help a great deal, too. Until then though, I’ll trust and hold in high esteem EVERY whistleblower of government crimes, fraud and abuse – far more than any corrupt member of congress (all of them) visibly forsaking their oath and covering ass with bullshit reports. And piss on any two-faced coward of empire that doesn’t like my attitude about an oath I once took, also.
I apologize for my language, Jenna and The Intercept, sort of.
Bloody well said.
Presidents and lawmakers are controlled through their briefings.
Special interests don’t tell lawmakers what to do. They tell lawmakers whatever it takes to make them decide for themselves in favor of special interests. And of course legalized bribery speeds the deliberative process.
Spook gangs hate to see these things declassified because your average Joe or Joanne is much less gullible than over-inflated Congress Critters.