A trio of GOP senators have introduced legislation that would cut security, construction, and maintenance funds for U.S. embassies around the world in half until the president moves the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
In 1995, Congress passed a law requiring the federal government to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama all campaigned on relocating the embassy and executing this law. But once in office, every one of them invoked a waiver in the law that allows them to hold off on the move if they deem it necessary to the national security interests of the United States to do so.
Moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem would be seen as a green light to some Israeli government officials, such as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who seek to make Jerusalem the undivided capital of the state of Israel. That, in turn, would preclude the Palestinians from establishing a state that includes East Jerusalem. Most international observers believe that this would render the two-state solution impossible and thus be damaging to peace.
The pattern has been for candidates to campaign on the pledge, which is strongly sought by pro-Israel activists who are influential during election season, but drop it once they reach the Oval Office. While campaigning for president, Donald Trump initially wouldn’t commit to moving the embassy — but by the end of the campaign cycle placed himself fully behind the relocation to Jerusalem.
Because history suggests he might change his mind, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, and Nevada Sen. Dean Heller introduced the new legislation, which would include real — and dangerous — consequences for U.S. diplomatic staff if Trump refuses to quickly relocate the embassy. The bill would immediately cut in half funding for embassy security, construction, and maintenance until the relocation occurs. In fiscal years 2018 and 2019, it would cut off all security, construction, and maintenance funding worldwide except for the embassy in Tel Aviv until it is relocated.
Ironically, Cruz and Rubio loudly attacked the Obama administration for failing to properly secure the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, where four Americans including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens were slain in a terrorist attack on September 11, 2012.
Eight months after the attack, Cruz wrote in the National Review: “Our brave men and women who continue to put their lives on the line every day in similar, dangerous situations deserve to know we are doing everything possible not only to protect them in the event of a terrorist attack, but also to deter these attacks from happening again. Better late than never.”
In the summer of 2016, Rubio lamented in a Breitbart post that “leadership was sadly lacking in this case and resulted in disaster” and called on the government to properly secure diplomats in the future.
“It is my hope that this report serves as a reminder of the importance of allocating the appropriate resources to keep all Americans safe, both at home and around the world,” he wrote. “Congress and the Executive Branch need to work together to do everything possible to make sure something like this does not happen again.”
Top photo: Police officers outside the U.S. embassy in Yangon, Myanmar, in July 2016.
The conditions of this legislation sound like it was dictated by a hostile foreign power making demands and issuing threats if the US doesn’t comply, but that could also be a convenient excuse for our own war seeking party at home.
The demand could looks like a desperate move to show allegiance to Israel who might be concerned about the White Nationalist theme in the new US gov, but also the radical Christian right has been wanting a religious war for some time now. When you look at who Trump has been putting in his administration, hard not to see that they ‘re preparing for escalation, picking up where GW left off and who are those who thought GW was too soft.
I hope this legislation is not for trying to target Jerusalem to ignite a religious war.
The underlining factor, American foreign policy is highly influenced by the State of Israel and the Jewish lobby (respectfully).
Is the US congress a collection of pimped out whores for wealthy thieves or have they developed a case of stockholm syndrome after having been captured by a bunch of genocidal manical crazed radical religious terrorist land thieves from the middle east?
It’s not so much this move, as the previous level of funding for Embassy security, that’s the scandal. You can really lay Benghazi directly at the feet of low Congressional funding levels for the State Dept vs the DoD. Vastly higher sums are expended for “force protection” of soldiers in hostile countries, even those not in a state of war, than is spent on State personnel.
There is no low road low enough for Ryan et al. No absurd ploy that is not an option. At some point the sheer irrationality of their actions must defeat them.
Yep, that’s how to prevent another Benghazi, remove the Marines at the door.
The GOP loves to support the troops in speeches while wrapped in the flag. Just don’t ask them to make sure they’re safe or properly equipped.
A number of substantive comments are in this thread, but somewhat far below. Of the three in particular from me, the first was Israel was founded by Jewish terrorists, who used children.
Too funny.
Israel-related discussion has moved to Robert Mackey’s latest article: Most Israelis Want Pardon for Soldier Who Executed Wounded Palestinian Suspect. Any interested in observing an especially dishonest (and entertaining) performance by the hasbara troll, Jack Green, should go to comments there.
Too funny Mona. You are priceless.
Ok.
I substantiate Ashkenazi racism over there.
@Mona
Here is a link to a pdf of article that I created that you don’t need a subscription to. It is proof that your claim is false. Read it and tell me again about the utterly breathtaking lies.
https://www.docdroid.net/Lfhur7i/times2-article.pdf.html
the relevant quote is as follows:
“The Sephardim headed by their chief Rabbi with his Council, who exercise both a civil and religious jurisdiction have certain privileges from the Turkish Government, though subject to humiliating exactions such as the yearly payment for leave to pray and “wail” beneath the wall of the Temple inclosure. They receive however collections regularly levied by their messengers among the Jews all over the world, a considerable revenue to support their own synagogues and to relieve any cases of poverty. It seems that the Ashkenaz Jews about half as numerous as the Sophardim, did not share in these benefits, and many of them having come to the holy City as pilgrims, were forbidden by Rabbinical pedautry to work at common trades for their living. The consequence was they fell into such abject wretchedness as it is it is painful to read of. Crowded together in the worst lodgings or in dark cellars under a synagogue building, without food, fuel, or water numbers died of starvation and various diseases, while others went raving mad. Those who could labor were denied employment by the Mussulmans and the Oriental Christians. “
Ah, I got the Sephardim and Ashkenazi mixed around. It was the Sephardim refusing to share charitable funds with the Ashkenazi. And the report also says, the state of these Ashkenazi was also due to their “fanatical improvidence.”
So, Jewish refusal to share with the “wrong” Jews, as wells as religious fanaticism, are cited more so than whatever employment discrimination the minority who would work might have faced.
Do you suppose this is partly why Ashkenazi came to lord it over other Jews in Mandate Palestine/Israel?
Mona literally everything you wrote concerning this article in your response to Jack Green was a lie including the source of the article
You ranted that his posting this, even after you had countered his claims, was proof that Zionsits are all liars . Even more ironic given your response to the evidence I provided is your statement that JACK “doesn’t give two shits what the truth is; you tap dance and shift around, adopting new lies as old ones fall apart.”
No, Gil: 1. mistakes are not “lies,” and 2. the article originates, as I said, in London’s The Saturday Review of Politics, Literature, Science, Art, and Finance ; that citation is simply cut-off in your pdf clip from the old NYT.
The only error I made was in reversing the Sephardim and Ashkenazi. The fact remains that one group of Jews was deeply complicit in immiserating another.
And Gil, I did not say you “lied.” (It is dishonest to put words in people’s mouths in order to erect a straw man and try to “win” an argument in that manner.) I said you showed “dishonesty.” Which you did by refusing to acknowledge the clear duplicity of CAMERA.
Jack Green is a lying, dishonest hasbara troll engaged in propaganda, heavily deploying misdirection, and fallacies. Yet you try to come to his aid. That is yet further evidence of your fundamental dishonesty.
Oh son now providing facts that counter claims by you is coming to someones aid and being dishonest. WOW Mona just WOW. I love it that you preach about the dishonesty of Zionists and then make a claim like that. Too funny.
You “countered” nothing. You demonstrated that I switched around Sephardim with Ashkenazi.
Bye. In this thread, the last (additionally silly) comment is yours. I’m not assisting you in further polluting this thread.
Yes, i “demonstrated” the very thing you claimed made Jack a liar was false and you had it wrong. When you thought the mistake was Jacks you termed it a lie. When i proved you were wrong it was simply a mistake. How dishonest you are Mona, and while everyone is looking.
1) It was the thrust of your point that the European Jews were racist.
2) false, but I’ll look at any evidence you have that proves your claim.
Not the thrust of my argument, but oh yes, deeply racist, and often enough also anti-semitic. *DO* go here.
I’ve demonstrated that many times, and your own dishonesty is evidenced by your unwillingness to admit the gross duplicity of CAMERA vis-a-vis Wikipedia.
Gil, I was an ardent Zionist up until 8-10 years ago, although it was not one of my primary issues of concern. My own online spewing of bullshit from the standard Zionist narrative, and being roundly smacked down by those who knew the truth, led me to my current position.
But more than that, it’s my anger at having been LIED TO and sold a wholesale fairy tale at the expense of horribly victimized Palestinians, who have suffered for a century or so as the Western world promoted manifest lies in denial of their egregious oppression. And help impose it.
We in the West have amends to make, especially we Americans.
Mona you have never given evidence of my dishonesty. If you want to provide a quote where I have lied that provide it. I provide facts you merely provide accusations.
So you used to spew BS from the “Zionist narrative” and got smacked down so you changed your position and now get smacked down for spewing BS from the antizionist position. You may want to considered a nuanced position that considers that both sides spew BS at times.
YOU gave it, with your performance on the CAMERA matter.
What we are left with is me showing with evidence your deceit and you making unsubstantiated claims.
Uh-huh, Gil, I’m quite content to let the record here stand for itself and readers to determine whether I’ve committed “deceit and unsubstantiated claims.” I’m not the least bit concerned.
In the meantime, you pal, Jack Green, is deeply failing — and flailing — in Mackey’s latest thread. Not that there is any help for that, but I suppose he could use some moral support.
Gil, do you find the word “legitimate” useful to describe governments? If so, what is your answer to this question:
Gil persists in not answering this question bout Mubarek, as he must. Because he’d either have to agree that speaking of governments as “legitimate” is not very meaningful, or admit that his criticism of another commenter was hypocritical. He’s smart enough to see the box he’s in, but not honest enough to admit it.
1) I did answer it and if you go back to the original thread you will see that I did.
2) why are you misdirecting the thread?
You did not directly, substantively answer it. If you claim you did, please link. It is the last thing from “misdirection” to demonstrate your evasion.
LOL What a good idea. The USA does not believe in diplomacy anyway. Might is right, let’s fight. Only cowards need security.
Why should US taxpayer dollars go to support such a corrupt puppet government? Israel has about as much credibility as the USA, which isn’t saying much. Both are nothing but terrorist that go around picking wars, and murdering for their own pleasure.
Why should the taxpayers pick up a tab for something that is as corrupt as moving this embassy? We have nothing to do with it. Face it, we ARE FOCED to pay for embassies, but we never even get to see pictures of them. This really seems fair, right? This is as insane as it was for the US to Illegally invade Iraq and set up that billion dollar monstrosity that our US POS calls an embassy there, how much of our tax payers dollars were spent? Stop wasting US taxpayer money until you at least make the water in America FIT to DRINK! Can’t spend our money on OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, give it to MURDERERS AND THIEVES like our military that acts no better than Israel. Wonder how all these military mental midgets around the world like being terrorist? That is all they are and it is exactly what the USA government is all about. FORCING TAXPAYERS to pay for government CORRUPTION!
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You need a briefing on foreign policy 101 before you vent.
First understand that protecting our diplomats is expected overhead of the game, then try to comprehend the blackmail being attempted, how it’s been forestalled, and how stupid the 3 Stooges of Zion are in this final act of a tragicomedy.
OK?
The diplomats need to be in the same place as the rest of the CIA spooks. In a prison or in front of a firing squad. Who cares about some rich arrogant jerk off that wants to show what his money can buy?
I don’t need a briefing on foreign policy, I have been watching these corrupt policies for the last 60 years. No changes, only more corruption today than back then and that was saying something.
Miss V:
You have to understand: the Jewish-Christian scheme is codependent, by design. Like a bad marriage where the one constant is tending to the wealth, while foregoing everything else, including morality- It’s Edward Albee’s “Who’s afraid of Virginia Wolfe,” and any other cartoon where Tom and Jerry endlessly foil each other; these murderous, slaving zionist/bolshevik/Pharisees have always need a soul-less mercenary army to on one hand, protect their sacred ways of life (murdering, slaving, raping, foreskin lopping-and they do this with the shared textbook called the Talmud/Bible.
In that shared piece of historical revisionism, they agree to disagree about who killed Jesus, which was an event that for some, was just a ritual abuse of one who rose up against the aforementioned covenants of dick clipping, raping, slaving, etc; while the others used that as a starting point to leverage these fabulously wealthy slavers out of a few shekels.
It’s a win win for the soul-less. So, you can’t blame zionists/bolsheviks/Pharisees or ‘their nature,’ any more than you can blame these other murderers for their own. They work together.
It’s the old riddle of the scorpion hitching a ride across the river on the back of a swan…
Most of these “diplomats” are spies. If the rest of the world didn’t know that they’re spies, they wouldn’t need all this security to begin with. So cut off the funding, who cares.
Yuri Totrov knows more than we.
This proposal will never even make it to a vote. The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordon has succesfully kept the US from implementing identical US legislation which was passed in 1995 calling for the embassy move and has threatned the US with consequnces if they attempt the move to Jerusalem. No reason to think anything will change.
The biggest foreign influence and spread of anti-american sentiment is spread by AIPAC and Israel, not imaginary KGB hackers. Unfortunately bipartisan support makes it impossible fight against.
Silly Canadian here, but isn’t this bordering on treason? Putting the lives of american citizens in danger for the benefit of another country’s agenda.
Then again, I was always perplexed as to how someone holding a high office government position could also hold dual-citizenship.
if America was predominantly muslim they would either be funding Hezbollah or ISIS…all believing it’s their religious duty to do so…
Utterly irresponsible.
Cruz and Rubio being ironic? No, more like profoundly hypocritical.
Zionists lie about terror; they began terror against Palestinians from the outset
In two posts below I discuss a new book documenting the long history of Zionist terrorism. The work, State of Terror eviscerates many Zionist lies, including one often spouted here by a hasbara troll, to wit: that Palestinians began any terrorism in Palestine (now Israel).
Based on an incomplete Wikipedia entry whose footnotes seemed sound, and offered in support of that claim, I had conceded the point that Palestinians first committed terror. I should not have, for that claim is false.
As documented in the book, in 1914 a physician from the German Jewish National Relief Association visited Palestine and was revolted by what he saw Zionists doing. He returned to Berlin and published a work stating he found Zionists perpetrating:
Zionists lie. Often and egregiously. This needs to be borne in mind in every encounter with them.
And they utterly lack moral standard to object to terrorism. The nation-state of Israel is the result of endless terror, and that same nation-state continues state-sponsored terror against their victims, the Palestinians.
The first Zionists arrived in 1882. Palestinians had been terrorizing Jews for centuries before Zionists arrived.
The British consul, William Young, writing in the 1840’s (before Zionism) said that the Jews of Jerusalem were living in fear for their lives. He attributed the plight of the Jews to “the blind hatred and ignorant prejudice of a fanatical populace…”
JEWS IN JERUSALEM.
New York Times December 29, 1878
Crowded together in the worst lodgings, or in the dark cellars under a synagogue building, without food, fuel, or water –even water at Jerusalem being a commodity of price – numbers died of starvation and various diseases, while others went raving mad. Those who could labor were denied employment by the bigotry of the Mussulmans and of the Oriental Christians.
Notice the date. This was before the first Zionists arrived. Notice the word “bigotry.”
That is literally the 8-10th time you’ve posted all of that NYT bit, which originates in an obscure British journal. You entirely omit, as you always do, the text that makes clear it’s about Sephardic Jews who are discriminated against by the Ashkenazi Jews, and left to live in poverty. That is, the Ashkenazi did not distribute donations from the worldwide Jewish community to the Sephardim. (This Asheknazi supreamcy prevails in Israel today, where there exists a caste system among Jews.)
As for the claim of Palestinian terror, you are lying — and changing your claim now that Thomas Suarez has debunked your prior one. You had been claiming that Palestinians committed the first terror, in the 1920s. That is false; the first terror was committed by Zionists, as Suarez copiously documents.
You are a hasbara troll who doesn’t give two shits what the truth is; you tap dance and shift around, adopting new lies as old ones fall apart. As my link shows, that’s what you are assigned to do.
Mona this is the second time I am posting a link to the NY Times article which contradicts your claims about what it said. You should read it this time instead of relying on sources which are clearly false.
That passage in the article is referring Ashkenazi Jews who under the Turkish government had less rights than the Sephardi Jews who also were receiving donations from Jews throughout the world that they didn’t share with the Ashkenazim. Here is the link to the article read it yourself so you don’t recycle your lie.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1878/12/29/81739740.html?pageNumber=4
I can’t read that as I do not have a subscription. But at one time I located the original, lengthy piece from an obscure British journal. And it clearly said the problem was Asheknazi Jews in Jerusalem not sharing charitable funds with the Sephardim. I told Jack Green that long ago. But he’s a hasbara troll, so it continues.
The extent to which Zionists lie — and always have — is utterly and totally breathtaking.
Here is a link to a pdf of article that I created that you don’t need a subscription to. It is proof that your claim is false. Read it and tell me again about the utterly breathtaking lies.
https://www.docdroid.net/Lfhur7i/times2-article.pdf.html
the relevant quote is as follows:
“The Sephardim headed by their chief Rabbi with his Council, who exercise both a civil and religious jurisdiction have certain privileges from the Turkish Government, though subject to humiliating exactions such as the yearly payment for leave to pray and “wail” beneath the wall of the Temple inclosure. They receive however collections regularly levied by their messengers among the Jews all over the world, a considerable revenue to support their own synagogues and to relieve any cases of poverty. It seems that the Ashkenaz Jews about half as numerous as the Sophardim, did not share in these benefits, and many of them having come to the holy City as pilgrims, were forbidden by Rabbinical pedautry to work at common trades for their living. The consequence was they fell into such abject wretchedness as it is it is painful to read of. Crowded together in the worst lodgings or in dark cellars under a synagogue building, without food, fuel, or water numbers died of starvation and various diseases, while others went raving mad. Those who could labor were denied employment by the Mussulmans and the Oriental Christians. “
And to make clear, the concession I made as referenced in my first post in this sub-thread, a concession I should not have made, was to you. I had come to think that for the first time you actually were factually accurate; rather hilariously I erred about having erred.
I should have known you were (and are) still wrong. You are a hasbara troll, and they spew lies, half-lies, distortions, misdirection and anything but the truth. The entire Zionist edifice collapses when subjected to the weight of truth. Hence all the dishonest garbage disseminated by both paid and volunteer trolls such as yourself.
Hi Mona,
How is a troll defined, and more importantly, how is one recognized online? Also, how do you define a Zionist? I am particularly asking the latter based on an article you referenced earlier which claimed that Zionism was an anti-Semitic European invention to rid themselves of their remaining Jewish Population.
Hi Lindak. I didn’t claim, nor do my sources claim, that Zionism was an “anti-Semitic European invention to rid themselves of their remaining Jewish Population.” It’s more that anti-Semites were entirely happy to cooperate with the Zionist idea, and Zionists actively sought and received antisemitic support.
Probably the best thing to do would be for you to peruse the newer Intercept thread on an Israel topic, and do a “Ctrl F” search of my name. I post specifically about the hasbara troll phenomenon here in that thread.
Stop hitting yourself.
Sometimes I get the impression that Israel wants to bring the world to the brink of destruction…and take that one last step beyond the brink.
Their government consists of white supremacists, and they have nukes. The world is shrinking; sooner or later they’ll use them.
Israel?
Israel: State of Terror
Zionists have always committed many and atrocious acts of terrorism; they now primarily do it as a nation-state, but this was not always the case. Below I posted an excerpt of Thomas Suarez’ speech on Zionist terror, delivered to the British House of Lords.
Suarez’ book, State of Terror — a “work of historical scholarship of over 400 pages, including 680 endnotes, some of them long paragraphs quoting several sources” — is reviewed by Professor David Gerald Fincham:
Every time an Israel apologist rants about Palestinians terror, about Hamas rockets & etc, they should be called out as lacking standing to object to terrorism. Their history of it makes the Palestinians look like pikers. Moreover, the Palestinians act in defense; they are the oppressed, the victims of murder and ethnic cleansing and gross, ongoing land theft.
The terror directed at them is simply now undertaken by a nation-state, and with the enormous complicity of every American taxpayer.
Professor David Gerald Fincham’s whole review of State of Terror is here.
“the enormous complicity of every American taxpayer.”
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Dear Mona ,, it’s not complicity . The word is coercion . You do pay your taxes ,,NO ? Does Professor David Gerald Fincham pay his ?
Ahh ,, and you pay ,, WHY ?
Get of the pot Mona .
You are a vile and foul antisemite who, e.g., spews “jokes” about Jews being made into lampshades; I utterly denounce you.
Oh ,,Mona . What do you have against lampshades my dear ? As for being an Anti_Semite let me tell you what I think you are :::
A COMPLACENT TAX PAYING AMERICAN NAZI posing as AN INTELLECTUAL ,, who greases the LAWD’s AXLES !
As far as UTTERLY goes ,, MOO ! MOO! In utter woids . My dear LINKER !!
Have a good year Mona .
You foul, antisemitic lampshade “joke” was deleted. You are an unhinged freak spamming the board with text that is alternately incoherent and vile.
Don’t give me your Linking crap !
Are You and Professor David Gerald Fincham “Complacent Taxpayers” “
It’s a simple yes or no if you both are or if you both are not . If one of you are not ,, well I tip my hat to that one . Which one is it ?
The boys will be around tomorrow to deal out some serious consequences for the delinquency of the non-patriot !!
In what year does the book claim the first Zionist terrorist attack took place?
Probably earlier, but the reviews cite 1914 as when a German Jewish physician was appalled by Zionist terror in Palestine. See my standalone post above.(You already have.)
I’ve ordered the book and have not read it yet, just many review, as well as the author’s recent speech to the House of Lords in London.
You are a bizarre more-or-less troll to whom I seldom reply. Your assertions merit no substantive attention. I shall now entirely ignore you in this thread.
——————–Mona da Moaner
She/he has gone from calling me A Crazed Old Idiot to A Bizarre More-or-Less Troll . All within the span of approximately 69 days . Her/his intellectualism is boundless !
He/she is an accomplished Linker , a wordy Dilettante of the first order ,, and certainly an Intellect !!!
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU MONA MY DEAR and MAY YOU SPREAD LINKS THROUGHOUT THE GALAXY !!!
3 Stooges. enough said.
If the two-state solution is indeed still alive, it must be on life support. All anyone can be bickering about now is when to pull the plug on the respirator. Like a family at the bedside in the hospital, no single member wants to be the one who is credited with the choice, so they dance and defer and deflect and elide and confabulate and threaten to postpone the moment when it can no longer be denied that any hope of two-state well and truly died decades ago. Not that postponing the funeral – which will be godawful and gruesome at best – doesn’t have some merit. One could wonder what those at the beside fear most; shouldering the responsibility of pulling the plug, or the horrors of what would follow.
the two-state solution is is like the Us vs Them thing .
It keeps the confrontation going and feeds that BUSINESS MODEL !!!
You are an antisemite, and therefore vile.
Where Israel puts its Embassy is no business of the USA.
Only the Israel Firsters care.
What about all the $aid$ stuff ? Is that also no part of the US’s business ?
Take your JEW BUSINESS MODEL and shove it !!!
There are two rules that must be kept in mind :
Rule #1——Money does not corrupt politicians ——US Supremes
Rule #2——When confused remember Rule #2——–Coin Changers of the Temple
The should read :
There are two rules that must be kept in mind :
Rule #1——Money does not corrupt politicians——————US Supremes
Rule #2——When confused remember Rule #1––The Coin Changers
In The Temple
As originally posted it looses its sense of humor !
Sorry for that all you Semites !
I use to banter with Zionist trolls on twitter all the time. It just gets boring. They’re full of shit, we know they full of shit, they know they’re full of shit, it just gets boring. Old latern-Jaw John Kerry was pretty close. There can be a Jewish state or a democracy but not both.
Are Cruz, Heller, and Rubio the 3 Stupid amigos ? WTF Talk about threatening to influence Politics. Libya was partially to blame for not having adequate security. Why would US senators deliberately put their own people’s lives in jeopardy? They don’t give a rat’s ass about the citizenry. They’re worried how Israeli will perceive them. They’re The Tossspots Trio!
Leaving the Israeli issue aside, it would have to be hard to find a more ruthless example of a bureaucrat using men and women who put their lives on the line to protect their colleagues and country, as nothing but mere political pawns. Really disgraceful conduct. Rubio, Cruz & Heller should spend some time at a tomb of an unknown soldier, then guard an embassy in the Middle East armed with nothing but mops.
I suggest it’s a grandstanding bluff by useful idiot tools of Israel, cover for more aggression.
Covert agents are “rumored” to work out of U.S. embassies worldwide with official cover, just as other countries are known to do here, and in the end that’ll weigh more heavily.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_cover
So extorsion rules the day………..
Another day in the Universes most Exceptional Banana Republic.
Guess why? Republicans prep bills to defund UN
But whatever you do, don’t say there’s an Israel Lobby that largely owns our elected federal officials. That would be antisemitic.
Where is the lobby for American citizens these days of Israeli worship. Rubio Cruz and Hellar ought to be cited for treason. How much did they get for this act of lunacy?
This amounts to conspiracy of criminal intent. Threatening harm to others if the perpetrators are not abided by is called EXTORTION.These 3 criminals need to be charged and prosecuted for the crime of conspiring to commit the crime of extortion.
US Congress – the world’s most supported organisation of organised crime.
Time is running out on that. The GOP still have their lead in Congress (a 2/3 majority really, if you count Blue Dog “Democrats” and the like), and with President Pence at the helm they’ll make even last term’s repeal-and-replacery look like a model of governance.
The should-be-inmates will run the asylum.
the 3 senators plotting crimes against humanity figured adolf hitler had the right idea but the wrong targets.
may they burn in hell for eternity.
Israel was founded by Jewish terrorists, who used children
The extent to which the Zionist narrative so many of swallowed, especially those of us over 35 or so, is an utter fairy tale has surprised me anew this week. Thomas Suarez has published what looks like a must-read book: State of Terror. He recently gave a speech to London’s House of Lords and describes how Zionism, in the first half of the 20th century, was widely and accurately perceived as antisemitic, and beloved by antisemites.
But the most horrifying revelations from Suarez concern the Zionists’ terror campaign, using Jewish kids, and menacing and killing dissident Jews:
Whole speech here.
“Israel was founded by Jewish terrorists, who used children” ?
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I think Israel was founded by the British&American oil companies . So it was then ,, so it is now . Simply a fort to protect the settler’s interest . Killing the natives is just BUSINESS AS USUAL !!
What say you to that fact supported historical conclusion Mona my dear ?
You are a bizarre more-or-less troll to whom I seldom reply. Your assertions merit no substantive attention. I shall now entirely ignore you in this thread.
And your non-reply is loaded with substance ? —->
Getting under your “Intellectual Skin” dear Mona ?
Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago and former COS for Obama, is the son of a founding member of Jewish terror organizations.
Israel is what the Jewish mob spent its Prohibition profits on.
Today’s Well-Fargo is an extension of the Jewish banking scheme from the 1930s.
Meyer Lansky organized it. Nothing has changed.
I think the bible even mentions it … you know you are in deep shit when 2000 year old stories ring true.
The extent to which Meyer Lansky or Bugsy Siegel spent their money on Zionism began after WWII, in about 1946. Primarily, they funded getting Jewish refugees to Palestine.
In that, they are not unlike a great many Jews who chose to blind themselves to the realities of Zionism after the Holocaust became widely known. I regard that as one of the most — if not the most — sympathetic moral errors in history.
Uh, how do you explain Lansky’s deportation BY Israel when he tried to hide there to escape prosecution in the US?
Why should I need to “explain” that?
GOP: Benghazi was a terrible incident that happened under Obama and Clinton’s watch, and they are terrible for allowing it. If you don’t allow our embassy in Israel to be moved to a place that’s not even the internationally recognized capital of their nation, we’ll defund the embassy and allow a Benghazi there too!
Sane people of the world: Uh…Ok.
GOP: SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH ISRAEL!
Sane people: …
Why don’t they just cut funding for the Secret Service. Give Trump a bulletproof vest instead.
This is not really so complicated… Cruz/Rubio/Heller are creating a no-win situation for Trump. Either he is “responsible for the defunding of US embassies worldwide due to his refusal to follow existing law” or he is “responsible for signaling to the world (including any number of Islamic Terrorists already here in the US) that the US supports only a single-state solution in Israel”.
Apparently Obama is not the only one who can be accused of being in the poison pill business these days… disgusting! I agree with the previous commenter who talked about getting rid of a few beavers to hasten the draining of the swamp.
And two of these three men thought they had the qualifications to be president. It’s a very dangerous and stupid move and I hope the rest of Congress has the common sense to veto it.
The Republicans officially vacate their parallel universe for a perpendicular one.
These people are just vile. I wonder how many senators and representatives would actually dare to vote for such a bill, knowing that, e.g., Daesh, would see it as an open invitation to attack.
Of course, Trump may well be reckless enough to actually move the embassy to Jerusalem, where it would join, umm, exactly one other “embassy” in Israel: the International Christian Embassy in Jerusalem.
Remember, everyone: They hate us for our freedom.
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, and Nevada Sen. Dean Heller and Benedict Arnold are one in the same. Is it really worth saving what little democracy we have left if the likes of these three Senators are representative of who is put in power?
My mishpocheh.
Got to admit, that’s a head scratcher.
Why would Heller, a Later Day Saint from the great gambling state of Nevada feel so strongly about this embassy move in Israel. He wouldn’t be jumping into the lap of big bucks Sheldon Adelson would he? Adelson as you may remember is a billionaire casino owner who recently bought the largest newspaper in Nevada – the Las Vegas Review Journal – and is a major pro-Israel advocate. Boy oh boy, money and media influence as one stop shopping.
Cruz and Rubio…..?? People say they want transparency. Well we’re seeing it here. Their political aspirations are manifest. We’re only seeing how shamelessly they’re willing to display them. I say if you want to drain the swamp you need to get rid of the beavers first. Cruz and Rubio would be a good start. I mean, why the hell do they care so deeply about relocating this US embassy that they’d be willing to jeopardize the security of all the other embassy’s around the world? Are’t there more important things to do, like vote to defang the Office of Congressional Ethics?
Cruz is like a bad born again television preacher, and Rubio would do better as a small town municipal administrator than as a U.S. Senator. Both ran horrendous prewsidential campaigns and neither no longer have much credibility with most Republican voters anyway. This is just a cheap suck up attempt to stay relevant with the Jewish lobby that is a part owner of Congress.
Rubio is the boy-toy for an uber-rich, uber-IsraelFirster!
He’s pledged his Marvel comic fortune to Israel as he has no family.
Bloom-
A very pithy comment that hits the nail on the head. Cruz/Rubio-the enemy of my enemy is my friend- are displaying their myopic foreign policy chops, while simultaneously, attempting to “trap” Trump, regardless of the consequences for the R.O.W.-rest of world. I agree this tactic is a waste of time and is attempting to force a conversation that can wait for a better time. Unbelievable.
It’s all about the “end times” and the second coming. That’s why many Christians are so pro-Israel (although some of them are actually ant-Semitic).
Any US outpost in Jerusalem would be a settlement, not an embassy.
More like a fort… Alamo-style.
Apparently you don’t travel much abroad. They are all forts. And in addition there are local police stationed outside, usually heavily armed, and as far as I know not paid for by the US, for the purpose of preventing people from taking pictures.
Apparently nobody in the State Department or on Capitol Hill has given any thought to the image these edifices project. It is interesting to contrast the appearance of US facilities with those of the British and the French, who are despised as much as we are in the Middle East, and for good reason.
rubio, cruz, and heller…
the three splooges.
these senators just can’t stop playing with israel’s cock.
i see a pinochet-styled interim government in the near future.
petraeus has been auditioning for the part and already owns the proper costume.
rome redux…
Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Dean Heller are figuratively putting a gun up to the head of Americans (especially those who may be working at these embassies worldwide) and saying “relocate Embassy to Jerusalem. .or else”.
Literally saying they will willingly, WILLFULLY, put Americans lives in danger all over the world to promote the interests of Israel..
Sounds treasonous to me..
These senators want to endanger US personnel as an act of petulance. Are they insane? Are they treasonous? This is yet another piece of evidence of the rapid decline of the USA.
It’s rich.
That is a bipartisan history of pandering by all Presidents since that misguided law passed in 95..
The Republicans are back in town: watch the serious sh** happen. The stuff of which nightmares are made.
Good, the Senate should put pressure on President Trump to yank out the knife Obama stuck in Israel’s back. And moving the embassy to Jerusalem would show the institutionally anti-semitic U.N. and the Arabs that their power over U.S. foreign policy dies with the end of the Obama administration.
There is no spoon. No knife either. Are you completely stupid, or performing disingenuously for those who are?
This is typical of the defenders of Israeli Fascism since Truman.
Fuck Israel. It is a product of the most seriously flawed policy decisions of the United States, based on winning the re-election of regressive “Democrat” Harry Truman.
Israel is a wonderful country that set up field hospitals in Haiti & Nepal to help those hurt by the earthquakes & to help those in the Philippines who were injured by the typhoon. Israeli advances in science, medicine & agriculture have helped billions of people all over the world.
In 2011, a team of Israeli neonatologists went to Kumasi, Ghana’s second-largest city, to train local doctors and nurses in advanced, low-cost methods to address the city’s high infant mortality rate. The doctors, sent by the Alliance for Global Good in cooperation with MASHAV, also established two new neonatal units in Kumasi’s sole hospital.
Too bad they treat the Palestinians like caged animals after they stole their homeland from them.
Yeah, that’s exactly how it is. You’re so smart.
CUBA has been sending Drs and more to crisis stricken countries for decades without the fanfare or “aid” money ftom US taxpayers, but heyho. Wonderful country.
You really shouldn’t try to reason with people like IndyRadio. It disrupts their flow of consciousness and provokes them to lash out with profanities and name calling. If you keep it up they will label you a fascist, a racist, an islamophobe or some such nonsense.
In your litany of the good deeds of Israel, you have forgotten to add their many acts of generosity in helping righteous nations defend themselves from aggression and terror.
For instance, the massive amount of military sales by Israel to the apartheid regime in South Africa.
For instance, the sale of US-provided, not for export IR missile guidance technology to the People’s Republic of China, who in turn incorporated it into an antiship missile, of the type they then sold to Iran, who then provided them to Hezbollah, who used one to sink an Israeli patrol boat. (Sometimes there IS justice in the world!)
For instance, to military dictatorships and totalitarian regimes in Southeast Asia http://nationalinterest.org/feature/southeast-asia-cant-get-enough-israels-weapons-16550
For instance their role in the militarization of US police in places like Ferguson.
For all these, and especially for their humane treatment of the Palestinians, Netanyahu should be awarded a Nobel prize. It is just unfortunate that there is no Nobel prize for hypocrisy.
that’s like saying that Satan turned down the thermostat for 30 seconds.
50 years of torture and genocide have taken quite a toll.
the bill is past due — it’s called REPARATIONS
You are clueless. Israel is one of the most evil countries in the world. For example, they supported South African apartheid. Not to mention that they stole the Palestinians’ land and treat Palestinians horribly.
Your “erudite” comment reveals much about you. Perhaps you should spend some time in your safe space reading up on fascism, because you seem to have a hard time understanding the concept. Some people believe in free speech only when they agree with what is being said, and then they label anyone they disagree with as fascists. Ironic isn’t it…
Political Zionism — the Zionism of Jabotinsky, Begin, Shamir and Netanyahu — was and is fascist, literally. Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt, as well as many other righteous Jews, said so long ago.
The very fact that you believe that you get to decide who is a “righteous” Jew and who isn’t, is scary to put it mildly. History is filled with people who thought themselves worthy of making sweeping judgements of others, and often those “others” being judged have been guilty of nothing more than being jewish. You really are scary.
Ach, has that sort of shtick worked with others? Cuz it sure doesn’t with me. Albert Einstein and Hannah Arendt were righteous Jews, along with many, many others, then and now.
Indeed, while Zionism’s horror is mostly located in what it has done, and is still doing, to Palestinians, it is not insignificant what this ethno-religious supremacist ideology has done to Jews and Jewish ethics. Certainly in my country, the United States, Jews had been the political salt of our earth. Except and until so many abandoned universalist philosophies and ran toward the tribalistic, race-based nationalism that is Zionism.
As Max Blumenthal so well puts it, Zionism kills Palestinian bodies and Jewish souls. Blumenthal, Greenwald — there is a growing return of a critical mass of Jewish men and women who lead the way in righteousness.
As I said in my earlier post, it is scary that you believe that you get to decide who is righteous and who isn’t. It isn’t “shtick” as you call it, merely a profound bafflement combined with genuine fear that some people seem to believe themselves to be in a position to pass sweeping judgements about others. Whether it is because such people believe themselves to live on some higher moral plane I do not know, but I do know that once you start dividing people based on your own arbitrary standards the irony of you claiming the moral high ground stops being funny and turns scary.
Uh-huh, like these Jewish folk are super scary.
You’re deflecting from the point, to wit: political Zionism is fascist and foul.
Rufus while you seem unable to distinguish fair and just from repression and violent dispossession or murderous occupation and land theft from peace, you are unable to see the obvious relationship between the Israeli State and blatant fascism. You need to have a perception check before your disease becomes advanced beyond repair.
if you have something to say about the article, or directly about the legislative proposal, you might post it. I don’t waste my time reading stupid shit.
Netanyahu teaches all we need to know about #Fascism
Even assuming there was a knife in Israel’s back, it would be criminal negligence for Donald Trump to “rip it out.” According to the Canadian Respiratory Journal, an impaled knife in a victim’s back “are stabilized until they can be pulled in the operating room under direct visualization. Unless Trump is a trained physician, I wouldn’t recommend that he destabilize the victim.
Anti Semitic? What universe are you from? UNSC with two exceptions has slavishly supported US foreign policy for years.
Semite | Definition of Semite by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semite
Definition of Semite. 1a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabsb : a descendant of these peoples. 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.
Not only are the Israeli’s stealing Palestinian land with violence
they are stealing the true meaning of Semites.
The Palestinians are the true Semites not these European transplanted land thieves. It would be anti Semitic to put the US Embassy in Jerusalem.
Quite right. The Palestinian Arabs are the true Semites. Most Zionists are not even Semites, they are eastern European Jews transplanted to zionistan and who hate the Arabs. Therefore they are the true Anti-Semites.
Let them follow through with this stupidity.
I don’t think a vote by Congress can force murderous lack of due diligence w/in the State Department.
It will also be interesting to see who among our “diplomats” will resign.
Resign or refuse certain postings. Career Foreign Service people are usually truly committed to diplomacy, but they are unlikely to be willing to be used as terrorist bait in order to force an administration to take a step that would violate the conscience of the world and expose the US and its citizens to more blowback than we have already earned.
The need for security has much to do with the fact that many are not diplomats. Yuri Totrov knows more than we do.
Career Foreign Service people are diplomats.
Military attaches, CIA station chiefs pretending to be diplomats, etc. are of a different class entirely.