After nearly six years, the Syrian civil war is heading toward a possible conclusion. High-profile talks organized by the Russian government are set to commence later this month, seeking to bring a negotiated end to the brutal conflict. The U.S. has been encouraging these talks as a step toward a broader political settlement that will require American participation.
While President-elect Donald Trump and Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian leader, have both publicly flirted with the idea of partnering in the future, any normalization of U.S. relations with Syria should occur only if major reforms and a transition of power are carried out, according to many experts on the region. Any other outcome would not end the country’s instability, only postpone it.
“The attitude of the United States toward the upcoming talks is very important,” says Gilbert Achcar, professor of development studies and international relations at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London. “Donald Trump has said he prefers Bashar al-Assad over any alternatives, but the reality is that any outcome that doesn’t result in guaranteed political transition and reform in Syria will not end the conflict there.”
At the heart of the problem is the Assad regime itself. While the Assad family has managed to hold onto power in the country for over four decades, it has done so in a brutal manner that repeatedly generated major crises between itself and its own population. The most recent conflict has only been the largest, and has taken on regional and even global dimensions. Among these are a massive refugee crisis and the emergence of transnational terrorist groups that have launched attacks across the world.
The actions of the Syrian government and foreign powers have corrupted the country’s original 2011 democratic uprising and led to a situation where Syria is occupied by foreign armies and militia volunteers, as well as international jihadists who have migrated to areas outside of government control. After these calamities, many Syrians say that a return to the pre-uprising status quo is no longer possible.
“The Syrian regime knows that it is no longer strong enough to maintain control over the entire country on its own, and it is dependent on foreign ground forces to do so, including Iranian, Lebanese, Afghan, and Iraqi groups,” says Leila Shami, co-author of “Burning Country: Syrians in Revolution and War.” “But ultimately peace can’t be enforced through foreign occupation. Although people may be subdued for some time through terror and exhaustion, in the end there will always be resistance. We can’t go back to a time before 2011, because the regime, as it was, has collapsed.”
A Syrian man walks past posters of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on a shop front in the capital, Damascus, on Jan. 3, 2017.
Photo: Louai Beshara/AFP/Getty Images
The unsustainable nature of the Assad regime’s rule, and the folly of continuing to prop it up into the future, can only be understood in the context of modern Syrian history. The current cataclysm of violence is only the most recent, bloodiest chapter in a long battle by the ruling family and its allies to maintain absolute political power. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, a previous attempt by a diverse group of opposition factions to challenge the Assad regime was met with brutal violence and repression, culminating in a major military assault by the regime on Muslim Brotherhood factions based in the city of Hama in 1982.
The attack on Hama is estimated to have killed between 10,000 and 40,000 people. It also leveled much of the city itself, making it the first of many ancient Syrian cities that would be destroyed by the Assad regime. But the brutality of that “victory” by the regime against segments of its own population planted the seeds for the even bloodier confrontations in the future. Raphael Lefevre, in his 2013 book about the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, “Ashes of Hama,” points out that much of today’s conflict has been animated by a desire to avenge abuses committed by the regime in those years. Citing in particular the memory of the Hama massacre, he writes:
Analysts were right to point out the memory of the massacre in the hearts and minds of the Syrian people. What they failed to see, however, was that this collective scar would not restrain Syrians from defying the regime that rules over them. Instead, it would fuel such a degree of resentment and anger that the uprisings which started in March 2011 [soon] spread throughout the country.
In the Aleppo countryside, a flashpoint in the current violence, Lefevre notes that “men in every village [can] recite the the names of men who were killed or disappeared” during the conflicts of the late 1970s and early 1980s. When protests broke out around the country in 2011, demonstrators took to the streets chanting that they will “not let the massacres of 1982 be repeated” and “forgive us Hama, we apologize.”
Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have been killed in the latest conflict, while millions more have been driven into exile as refugees. The ancient cities of Aleppo and Homs, inhabited for thousands of years, have followed Hama into violent oblivion. In 1982, then-Syrian ruler Hafiz al-Assad (the father of the current president) said that “what has happened in Hama has happened, and it is all over.” But the conflict had only paused, to emerge again with greater force.
Experts on the region say it is unrealistic to expect that most Syrians will resign themselves to being passively ruled by the government after this latest episode of bloodletting.
“When you have had years of such terrible, unprecedented, and mostly one-sided massacres perpetrated by the regime, it’s not possible to imagine that there could be any lasting end to the war in Syria, as long as that same regime remains in power,” says Achcar. “Even if the regime and its allies succeed in forcing the opposition to agree to some kind of settlement where Assad stays, the situation will remain completely unstable, because his regime is at its core very weak and survives only due to Iranian and Russian support.”
Achcar says that the upcoming talks in the capital of Kazakhstan offer an opportunity to bring an end to the conflict, but only if Russia and the United States can pressure the Syrian regime to agree to power-sharing and a genuine transition of power in the country. That will also require continued pressure to ensure that the regime plays by the rules.
“Unless there are guarantees of political freedoms at the end of a transitional process within Syria, no part of the opposition will agree, and the fighting will inevitably continue,” Achcar says. “The key point is to what extent Russia, the United States and other parties are willing to impose such outcomes. If there is no plausible political settlement and there is just a big bluff to keep the regime as it is, it will not stop the war.”
The United States has increasingly taken a back seat in the diplomatic fight over Syria. But there are still meaningful steps that the U.S. can take to help the country return to stability, while providing some measure of accountability on human rights and other important issues. The lifting of U.S. sanctions on Syria and other steps towards normalization of relations can be predicated on political change, guarantees to human rights groups on the safety of any returning refugees, and accountability for tens of thousands of political prisoners who have disappeared into government custody, say Syrian activists.
But all of this would require exchanging Trump’s Assad-friendly rhetoric for an approach that rebuilds relations based on changes in how Syria is governed. The regime’s narrative that the only choices in Syria are dictatorship or extremist rule remains false, and ignores a long record of generating crises through us-or-them brutality.
Given Syria’s history, any conclusion to the most recent conflict that doesn’t guarantee democratic change will almost certainly give rise to another round of violence in the future.
“People from the outside are only looking at the geopolitical dimensions of this conflict, but for Syrians this is very personal,” says Leila Shami. “Many of them have had their sons and fathers killed by the regime, or witnessed their daughters and wives raped by the Syrian Army. Millions more have been forced out of their homes and land and have lost everything. The idea that these people will just give up and decide that being ruled by Assad is the best option is never going to happen.”
Top photo: Members of the Syrian Civil Defense, known as the White Helmets, evacuate a child during a training session in the rebel-held eastern Ghouta area, east of the capital, Damascus, on Nov. 22, 2016.
It’s exactly because of this kind of crappy propaganda that I stopped reading, listening and watching MSM years and years ago. I even threw my television out of the window, under the laughter of my neighbors!
Sorry to be so categorical and incisive, but it’s the end of The Intercept for me, bye.
Pascal from Québec, Canada.
OMG is that a white helmets photo? Sorry Glenn but that’s it I won’t be returning to this site.
Wow. I’m disappointed that an article on the violence in Syria could appear on the Intercept without mentioning the role of the conflict in Libya and the billions of dollars in arms and thousands of foreign fighters sent to Syria in the period covered, not to mention the longstanding regime change plans hatched against Assad. The author is either ignorant of these well-documented facts or attempting to hide them from us; neither explanation does anything but impugn the integrity of an otherwise worthy news source.
Seriously? those points have been covered repeatedly for years now. At a certain point The Intercept needs to assume most of its readers are knowledgeable about the basic facts of the issue and they dont need to be rehashed in every article. this is an opinion piece about future possibilities. not a retrospective.
Why does “The Intercept” nurture such insufficient rocking chair analysis?
If the Assad government is such a ruthless, brutal and cruel regime why is it still supported by the Syrian people? Read these articles first:
17.Jan. 2012
The Guardian: Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media
http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll1
31.May 2013
WorldTribune.com: Assad winning the war for Syrians’ hearts and minds
http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll2
Le Figaro poll: Over 70% want Syria’s Assad to remain in power
29.Oct. 2015 (Le Figaro) http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll3
31.Oct. 2015 (Russia Today) http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll4
03.Nov. 2015 (Australian National Review) http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll5
6.Nov. 2015
Politics.co.uk: The uncomfortable truth about Syria is that Assad is popular
http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll6
14.Dec. 2015
GlobalResearch.ca: Bashar Al-Assad Has More Popular Support than the Western-Backed “Opposition”: Poll
http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll7
25.June 2016
21stcenturywire: The Inconvenient Truth: Assad’s Popularity Confounds NATO Propagandists
http://tinyurl.com/syrpoll8
“The Guardian: Most Syrians back President Assad, but you’d never know from western media”
According even to the author of that article what the poll found was that 55% of Syrians prefer Assad to stay in power until fair elections can be held rather than face the prospect of a full scale civil war. Hardly a ringing endorsement .
“WorldTribune.com: Assad winning the war for Syrians’ hearts and minds”
Cited unnamed sources who said no formal polling data was done.
I’m not going to bother to go to the rest of your sources will just assume the articles were as duplicitous as the first two. And Global Research? I mean really they are about as reliable as MAD Magazine.
Global Research is an iffy site, but that piece cites to a poll by ORB International. Is there some problem with them?
Are Brzezinski and Scowcroft authoritative enough for you ? :
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4525106/brzezinski-assad-support-group-opposing
Does it ever occur to Mr. Hussain and his ilk that Syria is a sovereign state , and that the U.S. has no business telling Syrians how to govern their own country ?
We’re not exactly doing a bang-up job of governing ourselves , and our recent track record of promoting freedom and prosperity elsewhere via regime change would be laughable if it weren’t so tragic.
Ageed, they should let Putin and the Supreme Leader of Iran tell the Syrians that the brutal dictator Assad should run there country.
It isn’t up to us to “let” any nation’s people vote as they will. Nor is Iran doing so vis-a-vis Syria.
Murtaza Hussain: “The attack on Hama is estimated to have killed between 10,000 and 40,000 people.”
The case of the ‘Hama massacre’ of 1982 is an instructive example of fake news: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/23/statistics-in-the-information-war-an-instructive-example-from-hama-1982/
“How many times have we been told that Syrian President at the time, Assad, systematically killed between 20,000 and 40,000 Muslim Brotherhood members in Hama? A simple search on Google yields numerous articles in Western mainstream media about the current war in Syria that recall the events in Hama in 1982 and reiterate these estimates. Alternative estimates are publicly available. According to a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document that was declassified in 2012, these now mainstream numbers are exaggerated by a factor of at least ten.
The DIA document, “Syria: Muslim Brotherhood Pressure Intensifies,” was written in 1982, three months after the events. Not only does it describe the actions of the Muslim Brotherhood as “terrorism,” it reveals that only two thousand Islamists were killed by the government in Hama. (p. 8)
The DIA report is instructive because it outlines tactics, methods, and narratives used that are similar to ones adopted by the jihadis in the Syrian war today.”
The author the the article you linked to starts off with a faulty premise. The death tolls of between 20,000 – 40,000 were for residents of Hama killed by the Assad regime not just members of the MB. What made Assad’s brutality notable was the number of civilians killed which if you take away the MB deaths was between 18,000 – 38,000. The article does do a decent job of explaining why Assad wanted to crush the MB. I wonder how the author feels about the present Egyptian govt doing the same.
Bashar al-Assad was 16 years old at the time of this event. Why is he being conflated with the actions of his father. Are we to blame for the sins of our ancestors?
Syrian oppositionist says Palestinians are ‘living in paradise’
Now, that is from the propaganda rag Times of Israel, and relying on their accuracy is a fool’s errand. But still, if there’s any truth to that quote it’s quite astonishing.
Your comments are full ol lies, it is not a civil war,go to Syria and talk to the people there, it a proxy war paid from the gulf states and you know it , its about domination of a free country,thanks to Assad who stood and defended the country from the predators, so speak the truth next time you write about Syria
This article about Syria points at the problem with unauthorized sources. https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2016/12/30/truth-a-casualty-neglected-by-medicins-sans-frontieres-msf-in-syria/
I sent a comment, stating my scepticism to the article and the writer Murtaza Hussain , who operates from his flat in Toronto Canada. Was it rejected for not hailing MH ?
The first comment from a new account is always held in a filter, where it’s checked by a human being to be sure it isn’t commercial spam. Once approved, all your comments should show up right away, at least if you refresh the page after a minute or two.
I’m really sceptical about this article, and the writer. What sources has he ? Obviously Murtaza Hussain is against Assad, just like the person Rami Abdulrahman who singlehandedly is running the SOHR – “Syrian Observatory for human rights ” !! (from his small flat in Coventry, England, where he has stayed for 15 years without visiting Syria these years. ) Such “luminaries” as the Huffington Post, VICE, Reuters, CNN , Fox, NYTimes, WashPost and nearly all of the mainstream media have been caught citing this website verbatim, without so much as questioning the reliability of this singular source.
Placing all the blame for this conflict on Assad makes a tremendous and untenable leap of faith that all the anti-Assad forces and their supporters in the US and Saudi Arabi have a higher standard of tolerance, democratic pursuit of justice and nonviolence toward those who disagree with their goals and practices than Assad. Unfortunately there is little evidence that this is so, and much evidence that there is no viable leader who fits that bill.
You treat the US as though they are for a democratic Syria and know how to achieve it. Every day it is harder to see the positive effects of US regional intervention, which has been at least as violent to noncombatants as Assad, and whose failures are documented in the Intercept. Despite the staged photo I am not seeing the white hats.
Who will lead Syria toward peaceful democracy acceptable to all parties? Should they divide into regional groups? If we can’t take a clear stand for something like an independent Kurdistan how will the divisions in Syria be resolved? Is there some figure who will inspire all parties to lay down their arms? The cultural and political affinities are many: Alawites, Shiah, Sunni, Isis, Al Nusra, Muslim Brotherhood, Baathists, Free marketers, Christians, refugees from Iraq, Kurds. Then there are the non -Syrian players and what they will accept: Turks, Saudis, US, Russians, Hezbollah, Iran. The alliances and animosities among these groups gets even more complex.
We hear the protests started with nonviolence, but they sure were quick to seize regions with weapons. Is it remotely possible that non-violent protest is sometimes a ploy to justify violent revolution. And how committed is the US to nonviolent resistance? Do we support nonviolent protest in other places and stand firm with them to criticize the Egyptian Generals, the Saudis, the Indian overseers of Kashmir, the Bahrainis? Why is it OK for Egyptian Generals to crush dissent and continue to get US military aid?
I am not saying Assad is a good leader, but it is glaringly obvious that our policies about abuse of power are inconsistent, hypocritical, and that the US has very little concern for human rights except as a tool to target those who challenge US power and strategic goals.
You know, every time I want to oppose Trump wholeheartedly, a Neocon tool such as the author comes along to remind me how sane Trump’s policy on Russia and Syria really is.
So its the neocons fault that you want an Assad dictatorship which is a puppet of Russia to keep oppressing segments of the Syrian people. Hmmm.
“Given Syria’s history, any conclusion to the most recent conflict that doesn’t guarantee democratic change will almost certainly give rise to another round of violence in the future.”
Hmmm seems to me with millions of Sunni Muslim having left the country and not likely to come back and of course hundreds of thousands more dead, the country might finally be governable for the Assad clan. So much nonsense gets written about this conflict (see below) but it seem like a pretty straight forward sectarian conflict. The Sunni majority never accepted the Alawite dominated leadership of the Baath party. The real danger now is that the millions of refugees in neighboring Turkey may deepen the authoritarian Islamist strain among the leadership there and that may lead to a bigger conflict in the future.
The staged photo of white hats handing off a child from the shell of a surprisingly debris-free building is more than enough to know this is junk news.
In fairness, this caption is displayed at the end of the article as opposed to beneath the actual photo …
That allows the reader to draw their own conclusions, of course.
Was this before their ‘mannequin’ stunt or after ? White helmets are amateur propaganda !
As a proud member of the anti-imperialist “alt-left,” and someone who finds the US obsession with regime change odious, I was interested to read the voices saying that even if the (horrific) Assad regime is left in place, there may be difficulties recreating a status quo ante bellum. Syria is complicated enough, especially in light of its being — and its people being — the site of a proxy war between the US and Russia, no single simple narrative, whether anti-imperialist or human-rights-interventionist, is going to be fully satisfactory. Thank you, Murtaza, for your contribution.
Yawn…still going on with this nonsense?… Are you trying to be hired by The Guardian?…
The lead photo of the US government funded white helmets is a dead give away that this article is just more propaganda. Sad that this finds its way into the Intercept. Interesting that elements of the deep state keep attempting to lay blame for this terrible war on all but themselves — much like the Dems laying blame for losing the presidency on everyone except the corporate stooges that run the party. I guess they believe that line from Todd Snider: “cause they know if you’re doing the pointing, nobody’s looking at you.” Fortunately the Intercept readership doesn’t fall for that trick.
So your claiming The Intercept is part of the Deep State. Wow its every where.
Your comment is a non sequitur – try taking your medicine then re-read what I wrote.
One must revisit the catastrophe of iraq for it mirrors Assad,s so called brutality on the syrian people. The obama/bush administrations along with saudi ,qatar direction and participation is the headache that needs a cure. this is all about oil, natural gas, pipelines ,poppies and the petrodollar . once the central banks and the petrodollar do not rule above all else we the people will rule above it
Excellent analysis……but here come the expected assault by the alt left who are singularly obsessed with American imperialism and completely unconcerned about the Syrian people or the other imperial powers who are openly aiding Assad as he brutalizes his people.
The phrase “alt left” is precious, but it gives you away.
Fuck this is getting annoying.
“excellent analysis” On what planet?
“alt left” Literally not a thing
“american imperialism” The single most destructive force on the planet
“Syrian people” Who overwhelmingly support Assad
“other imperial powers” Russia is an empire and you’re a smart guy
“brutalizes his people” As opposed to the rebels?
Entertaining as always I guess.
Even more amusing is that this guy apparently includes you in whatever the “alt-left” is supposed to be. If you are any species of “leftist” the word has no boundaried meaning.
? I’m literally a Marxist. Is there another Karl on this board or something?
Ah, ok, yes there absolutely is another “Karl” who has long posted here. He’s not remotely a Marxist and rather likes Mr. Trump.
I love that no one on this site actually believes anything this shill writes.
And how would you know that nobody believes this writer?
Obviously based on the overwhelmingly negative comments under this article and under the other disgusting pro-imperial trash Murtaza has published on this site. As of my original comment this section was completely negative, as of this comment there is one comment supporting the author and its painfully stupid.
Because he’s right “Joe”…
High count of part time establishment shills moonlighting as purveyors poorly researched and under sourced foreign and domestic policy opinion pieces which serve to dilute (or distill?) the more significant efforts at actual (fact based) journalism sentient Intercept readers came to expect.
when the author writes this garbage
It could not be the CIA putting massive amounts of weapons into the hands of extremists.
It’s the brutal dictator.
Murtaza Hussain has severely eroded his credibility among TI’s readership. Many here have been appalled at, e.g., his columns about the White Helmets or rebranded Al Qaeda.
In general, the readership is far more likely to assess the war in Syria as Max Blumenthal does.
The fact that you personally, and others of your mindset do not agree with Hussain, doesn’t mean he has eroded his credibility will all other readers of TI. There are just as many, who like me, are saddened and appalled that some on the left seem to care more about American imperialism , rather than the millions who have suffered in Syria.
Futhermore, the credibility of any media organization rests in the diversity of its writers. Diverse points of view are always welcome. You seem to think, that , these writers print whatever they feel like , without editorial oversight.
If you are so offended by Hussain’s anguish over the fate of the Syrian people, and are labeling him a regime change zealot, then are you saying that the editors who approve his articles , are also lacking credibility?
Reading comprehension much? Are you unaware of what the phrase “in general” means?
Which, as to substance, is true. If you think, e.g., Glenn Greenwald would ever subject himself to an editor’s veto of what he may write you simply do not understand where you are. Nor does anyone tell Murtaza Hussain what he may or may not write.
I know for a fact that Greenwald and other writers here disagree with multiple articles published at the site ; Greenwald has said so. While Glenn hasn’t specifically or publicly repudiated any of Hussain’s Syria pieces (or any other specific articles published here) I have every reason to believe he does not agree.
No. See all of the above.
You clearly know very little about this site.
Your aggressive, dismissive attitude notwithstanding, you act like you are actually a high ranking employee of TI rather than a know it all , trolling writers you don’t agree with.
Joe translated: “I spewed a bunch of ignorant commentary she quickly debunked, and now I’m really mad. Mona has cooties and her mother wears army boots.”
According to this there is over site:
http://thedailybanter.com/2015/02/reporter-ken-silverstein-confirms-critics-said-intercept-beginning/
That’s not about “oversight.” Apparently, Scahill and other writers here were aghast at that “Serial” story. So was I. It was tabloidish and not worthy of the site. (Unless someone can glean some particular political POV in that Serial brouhaha over whether “the guy did it” or not, a question consuming minds with interests, er, unusual for this site.)
The controversy wasn’t about ideological viewpoint, but over quality and embarrassing everyone associated, especially the founders.Nor did it demonstrate editorial control over the writers on staff; it showed the opposite. The journalists who did the Serial stuff were allowed to go and write as they please. The result in that case led to a story many — including me — found unworthy of a serious site.
So you feel he should be catering to the readership of TI instead of doing journalism as he sees it ?…..interesting take..
I neither said nor implied anything you wrote misstating my position. Hussain’s articles on Syria have been of either poor quality and/or evasive of facts about Syria he dislikes. That’s been very disappointing to many.
You seem to be an authority on the quality of articles published on TI. I am surprised they haven’t offered you an editor position . If the writers are writing articles of poor quality and substance, isn’t that reflective of the quality of the editorial staff and management , as much as the ability of the writers. So I assume you , as an authority on quality journalism, you are very disappointed in the management and editors at TI.
Nope, not an authority, just a friend and former professional colleague of one of the founders. We do chat about stuff going on here from time to time, tho he never betrays a confidence, to or about me or anyone else.
I’m surprised The Intercept published this article. Take the following quote:
“The United States has increasingly taken a back seat in the diplomatic fight over Syria. But there are still meaningful steps that the U.S. can take to help the country return to stability, while providing some measure of accountability on human rights and other important issues.”
The United States is in Syria in violation of international law. It is also funding and arming terrorists against a sovereign nation in violation of international law. If the author doesn’t understand this he should write about other topics.
More US-Saudi propaganda on Syria from the Intercept. The whole premise of the piece is obliterated when you already know that it was the US-CIA-STATE DEPT that fomented Syrian “unrest” from the beginning using imported foreign jihadists and a few local patsies.
Seriously, I do not come here to read the kind of shit I expect to find in Salon.
The U.S, did do all of that, but Assad is a wretched and odious dictator. Just because the U.S. has improperly upheld him doesn’t mean he isn’t as horrible as described. People like Maher Arar are certainly not “patsies” of the United States and Arar also despises Assad.
Assad is OF COURSE a wretched dictator–just like ALL OF OUR SUNNI ALLIES! The point is that liberal humanitarian interventionism is always a cover for state material interest
I agree with that. It’s just important to make certain one is clear-eyed about the totally reasonable objections to Assad.
You are missing a very important point. Whether Assad is a “wretched and odious dictator” or not is secondary to the following two facts:
1. The United States is in Syria in violation of international law.
2. The United States is funding and arming terrorists against a sovereign nation in violation of international law.
By omitting this at this stage of the war of aggression against Syria, Murtaza Hussain is either incompetent or a propagandist.
Mona, a ‘wretched and odious dictatorship’ would not have survived the blitz style ‘rebellion’ because the news about the nature of the ‘rebels’ lagged behind the wave of attacks on civilians and military alike. One can cite all the claims for either viewpoint (popular support for the government amongst the population, popular hatred for the government amongst the population) and say that one or the other is convincing, but the facts on the ground (resistance in depth by the population to the fast moving ‘rebellion’ directly proportional to the population density) speaks authoritatively on the subject. The population was not hostile to the government, they weren’t even neutral or only lukewarm in support. They (even those who disagreed with the government on some issues) rallied to the government and its military with the speed and dedication that dictatorships cannot command.
The semantics of the word “dictatorship” do not interest me. There’s a reason the United States shipped Maher Arar to Syria — our government knew Assad would torture Arar for us.
I completely support the cause of secularists and moderate Muslims in opposing the Assad dynasty. Whether it functions as a dictatorship or per the tyranny of a majority. From that, however, it does not follow that I support Western machinations to effect regime change.
I found this interesting, as the author mentions this person out of the blue. She identifies herself as an anarchist, which to my mind sort of makes anything she has to say absurd. Yes, we should all ‘return to a state of nature’ and trust that the powerful will of course be nice to the weak. Of course, ‘young’ and ‘dumb’ are often synonymous (I had some really stupid ideas myself at one time), so maybe she just needs to develop her political view a bit.
I see these ‘experts’ are of the same school as the ‘experts’ that said the American troops would be welcomed as liberators.
‘Mission Accomplished!’
This article is complete horse sh!t. A tendentious screed that was most likely dictated by some 7th Floor Group flunky at the State Department/CIA .
Syria is unstable because the US and it allies (Saudi, Qatar etc) have been destabilizing the region generally and Syria specifically for several years now.
I could go through it line by line picking it apart, but I’ll just hit some main points:
Assad was elected by the Syria people.
The “regime” referred to, is actually the government of Syria.
Why should Washington dictate “how Syria is governed” or any other country for that matter.
And so on and so forth. Now that Aleppo has been liberated, we can expect to hear stories how the “moderate rebels” behaved.
Well, I’ll do some picking… ‘10,000 to 40,000′ – if you ever hear that wide of a range on anything, you can be pretty sure the ‘methodology’ behind the numbers are ‘well, what sounds really bad, but believable?’. There is considerable mentions of the Syrian govt. doing nasty things – ‘Many of them have had their sons and fathers killed by the regime, or witnessed their daughters and wives raped by the Syrian Army. Millions more have been forced out of their homes and land and have lost everything.’- some of which are undoubtedly true, but would any but a fool think that the jihadists, including some labeled ‘moderates’, are not doing exactly the same thing? The tone suggests that the Assad regime is just as bad as ISIL, something which practically no one would see as a sensible conclusion. When I hear these kind of ‘bitter ender’ arguments, I wonder what these people would say if the regime actually fell, and we got a full scale fight between jihadist nuts and a fractured, weak opposition. What would they say when ISIL basically redoes what they did in Iraq, taking over many major cities and slaughtering and brutalizing everyone not willing to toe their line. Would that be preferable to Assad and co.? Because that is what many are basically asking for, to weaken the regime to the point that the strongest, nastiest elements take over. Ask joe blow Iraqi how he feels about what happened after Saddam (another nasty, but evidently tolerable to many, dictator) got removed. The common man overwhelming wants to just avoid the chaos and horror of war, and will happily surrender fantasies of a sudden move to liberal democracy for selfish crap like not being displaced or having family members be killed, wounded, or conscripted. WAR IS HELL, and those who ask for it, even indirectly or for admirable ends, are asking to reap the whirlwind. Syria is a sad, open wound- throwing more bombs, bullets, and military intervention at it is not the answer. And yes, there is clearly a part of the American imperialism state (MIC and security apparatus) that has had a boner to invade Syria for years. The idiots would have risked starting WW3 with Russia for it. These people are evil, dangerous fucks who constantly clothe themselves in ‘righteous’ causes that unfailingly cause misery and horror.
Dear The Intercept-team,
please stop featuring articles by this writer on this topic. If he wants to write such articles, there are hundreds of MSM outlets out there for him to do it.
Please don’t diminish your credibility this way.
If somebody is still trying to pull the wool over the readers’ eyes trying to sell this fake organization “white helmets” financed by the UK, then you know you don’t have to bother with the rest of the article. Even good points drown in sea of propaganda this way.
This org “WH” features members who show jihadi signs and are friends with the worst extremists. They have been shown to make fake videos, called for western bombing and tried to infiltrate the real civil organizations.
If you want to talk about the history about that country fine, but do it the right way and don’t succumb to the narratives/organizations backed by the likes of a McCain or whatnot.
Right on Mario! Thanks for saving me from having to write the same thing. Sure Assad is evil, but so is just about any leader of a country, and he’s nothing compared to leaders the U.S. supports in countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Honduras, just to name a few off the top of my head.
On the other hand, the US’s support for the nebulous opposition would be even more disastrous. From the beginning, one of their battle cries was,”Christians to Beirut, Alawites to the tomb!” Al-Quaida backed the operation from near the beginning, and IS took over.
The reason the faking U$A has “taken a back seat” is
because the local goal has always been the destruction of Syria.
This notion –
that there is a desire for democracy by the faking U$A –
is clearly nonsense. The faking U$A is primarily about destroying
lives through military violence in the name of private profits.
Name one country where this has not been the case in the past
(at least) 70 years.
Syria is merely the front porch to Iran in the eyes of the faking U$A.
The slaughtering was encouraged and enabled by the faking U$A,
now they are waiting for another chance to create more chaos
and, in the meantime,
they are clearly making – Blame the Russians – the latest game.
Yes, because it’s clear the Russian’s are just interested in Syria for the sake of the Syrian people and they have no other reason for supporting Assad. Sheesh
It’s not April 1st .