When it began to dawn on Marjan Vayghan that her uncle Ali had been detained by customs enforcement at the Los Angeles International Airport, she hadn’t even heard about President Trump’s Muslim ban. On the evening of January 27, the same day Trump signed the executive order, Ali Vayeghan (he and his niece spell their names differently), an Iranian national with an American green card, was scheduled to arrive at LAX on a 7 p.m. flight. It wasn’t until 2 a.m. that a customs official confirmed to Marjan’s distraught family what they already suspected: that Ali was being held prisoner at the airport.
Marjan didn’t get any sleep until seven that morning. Before she crawled into bed, she put up a post on Facebook, describing to her friends what had happened to her uncle.
When she woke up at noon and checked her newsfeed, Marjan told me, “my friends had just gone crazy.” Her post had caught fire. Her friends were livid about the travel ban, which Marjan now learned was what was behind her uncle’s predicament. Her father called and told her that all her friends were there at the airport already. “The angry feminist friends from your art shows who don’t wear makeup are hugging your mom,” he told her. A few hours later, while she was on her way to LAX, her father called again. “It’s not just your friends anymore,” he said. By now, protesters had begun to arrive at the airport to show their solidarity with the detained travelers and their opposition to the executive order. By the time Marjan left LAX late that night, the crowd had grown to hundreds. By the following day, it would be thousands.
After 20 hours in detention, with no provision of food or sleeping accommodations, during which time Customs and Border Protection tried to get him to sign away his residency (he refused), Ali was put on a plane to Dubai, where he was expected to connect to a flight back to Tehran, and to somehow get through customs in both countries with “REVOKED” written across his visa with a red sharpie.
Peter Bibring, an ACLU attorney, had rushed to file a request for an injunction when he heard about Ali’s deportation order. But by the time the court received it, there was no time for a ruling before Ali’s flight took off. The plane left Los Angeles to Dubai with Ali on it.
On the afternoon of February 2, Ali Vayeghan, apparently the first person to be deported out of LAX under Trump’s executive order, became the first person to be brought back into the country under a court ruling that rejected the legal and constitutional basis of Trump’s ban. The ACLU hadn’t been able to prevent Ali’s removal from the United States, but it had managed to secure his return.
Ali stepped off the plane and into the embrace of his niece. The mayor was there to shake his hand. So was a giant, frenzied scrum of reporters (myself among them), holding their cameras and their phones aloft to get even a passing shot of the family’s reunion. Protesters were there, too, holding up signs welcoming Ali Vayeghan to the United States of America.
“He is now a lawful permanent resident of the United States,” Bibring told me. “We’re hopeful that the government will respect that.”
“…with no provision of food or sleeping accommodations…”
Yeah, so? That’s what happens to jailed people — not that I am saying it’s right (moral), just that that’s how jail is. Jail is concrete and metal bars, a toilet out in the open if you are lucky. Jail is filthy and noisey. Jail is… well, too many people do not know what jail is.
(Oh. Jail is NOT prison, by the way — two different things that few, I suspect, realize.)
Yeah, sad story. But it is not unique nor new! Such things happen all the time. Have happened throughout time. Will continue to happen.
Actually, much worse happens to people throughout the world. All the time.
The thing is… the United States is now on — actually has been since 43 (President that is) — a trajectory of jailing people WITHOUT NOTICE.
Do any of you understand what that means?
Jailing people WITHOUT NOTICE.
People under 45 will suddenly, without warning, be simplly “whisked away”, never to be heard from.
That’s Trump World, run by Trumpholes, doing Trumpshit.
I’d take Hillary Clinton over Donasshole Trump any era.
Happy story…..but missing is the part between Jan28th when Ali was deported and his retrun to LAX on Feb2nd. Did he stay in Dubai or got to Tehran and how did he get back on a plane to the US with his ‘red sharpie revoked ‘ visa ? As he is now a permanent resident will the rest of his family be able to come to the US ?
If all those security agents ever REALLY wanted to do something to secure us against Muslim terrorists, they’d start by insisting on ONE OFFICIAL TRANSLITERATION SCHEME for all Arabic names. I mean, this is ridiculous – here we have official papers in the same family with different spellings of a name. You read news articles and they *still* might talk about Usama bin Laden or even Ussama Binladden. How the hell can any kind of self respecting spook on Earth put up with the idea that there is NO SPELLING for the names in their files that they are most interested in? I say to ’em, grow a pair and come up with a single coherent convincing scheme, then convince all the right people of it, so you can watch them as closely as you do Americans with “normal” names.
Are you ignorant of the fact that US visa applicants have to submit fingerprints? Even those from visa waiver program countries?
http://www.immihelp.com/visas/us-visa-fingerprint-collection.html
It’s a myth that visa travelers and refugees don’t go through an extensive vetting process before being admitted to the United States.
As far as your “unique name identifiers”, there are quite a few Americans with identical names – for example, “William Williams”: There are 7,580 people with this name and 653 reside in Florida. How do we track this “normal” name, then?
In any case, if we consider the worst two acts of terrorism on U.S. soil by fatality counts, we have 9/11 (mostly Saudi citizens) and the Oklahoma Federal Building (homegrown white supremacist). Neither group is much affected by this ban, which obviously targets Iranian citizens as part of some warmed-over neocon scheme linked to US support for Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Maria sobbed as she recounted her difficulties as a hard-working, but undocumented, taxpayer.
Let x = 100 million
xxx – US population
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx – World population in countries poorer than Mexico
Your group is as unsuccessful at math as it has been at democracy.
Mr. Nelsen is literally and proudly a white supremacist and has explicitly criticized democracy.
So?
So, I messed up the link demonstrating the extent of your vileness. That should go here.
“So?”
Yes, -Mona- is the supreme character assassin. White supremacy tilts her windmill so she denounces EVERYTHING you say and she encourages others to not bother with your comments.
You’d think the moderators would get her to stop but I believe there is more to the story than that.
I would point out that -Mona- is a hasbarist (not a very good one but, really, are there any good ones?).
That should level the field a bit …
My group’s mistake was its tolerance of your group.
White, male, over 50. Believes in democracy and the rule of law.
How does that differ from your group?
Your group’s mistake was quitting school in the second grade. That’s because multiplication is taught in 3rd grade and you’ve already proven an inability to show simple math. Hahaha
It’s the New Math .
That sh*t never did compute.
The annual growth rate of the US population is 0.7%. At that rate, it will take about a hundred years to double. Your alarm is not supported by any trends.
First, thank you for responding with an actual point (with which I disagree). We should be able to disagree like civilized adults without the … well, I came across this yesterday:
As for your point, all net growth now is the result of the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, about which the American people were assured in the most solemn tones by President Johnson, by the bill’s sponsors in Congress, and by the media, that there would be only negligible impact on size of the population. (And, we were promised the country’s racial balance would not be upset). Both promises were bald-faced lies.
The bill was introduced in the warm fuzzies the country was wallowing in in the aftermath of the 1964 Civil Rights legislation, and it was presented as a civil rights issue. Then the sponsors grabbed the mediocre young senator from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy, wrapped him in the mantle of his brothers’ recent martyrdom, and set him to flogging for the bill. The people never had a chance.
That night, after the bill signing ceremony at the Statue of Liberty, New York City celebrated the legislation as a great Jewish victory.
So any population growth at all from immigration is objectionable on those terms alone. And is there growth! At present rates, as you say, by 2100 the US will have double the population we had in 2010. Over 600 million people!
At 600 million people, what kind of country will we be? Islam is the fastest growing religion in this country right now. Chinese is the fastest growing nationality. There will be four BILLION Africans in Africa in 2100. How many will be trying to get here, if it’s still a desirable place to get to? At some point, can we say “no”? Or will we always have Mr Salzmann/Mona calling us “vile white supremacists” if we even question the moral righteousness of this reckless path?
And this entire transformation stems from one piece of legislation passed with Jewish lies before most of us were born.
You say my alarm is not supported by any trends? Who can deny that with rising diversity in this country we are seeing rising tensions–as predictably as a sunrise. No one knows what the outcome of this will be. But we can look to France to get a clue about one aspect of the future.
France is gone:
Percentages of newborns targeted for testing in France because both parents come from the Global South:
2005: 25.6 percent
2010: 31.5 percent
2015: 38.9 percent
And Paris in 2015 was 73.4 percent, up from 54.2 percent just a decade earlier.
French Jews are moving en masse to Israel, leaving the ruins behind them.
The French, however, have nowhere to go. Did you know in the Bataclan Holocaust the killers were let into the club by Muslim security personnel who worked at the club? They left, and the slaughter began. The immigrants slaughtered 130 French kids. They caught off the genitalia of some of the males while they were still alive and, if they were with a girl, they made her eat her boyfriends genitals before shooting them both dead.
My alarm is not misplaced. I know that if I express that alarm Mr. Salzmann/Mona will call me a white supremacist. That doesn’t make me a white supremacist. But it does make him an enemy.
You’re the last person at the Intercept comments threads to make this claim. For days you have spewed vile crap towards multiple commenters here.
It’s laughable and totally unbelievable that anyone should think that you believe in that statement.
“For days you have spewed vile crap towards multiple commenters here.”
I believe he has done this in response to claims he is “vile” … etc. made and hurled by -Mona-.
I do defend Craig Nelsen for expressing his view. He’s right on what we are witnessing regarding population density on the planet. (Steven Hawking believes mankind has about 1000 years left on earth, max)
He does not offer a valid solution in my opinion. That does not make him a bad person; he’s just not correct, in my opinion.
-Mona- hurls invective like she’s selling peanuts at a baseball game. Her denunciations are complete, if you know what’s good for you, blah, blah.
-Mona- continues to kill the messenger in front of everybody.
And by the way, we’ve transformed our country for no reason whatsoever, sticking the next generation with who knows what outcome. You’d think we should have at least gotten rich out of the deal. But it’s cost us money–higher taxes, and lower wages, in return for which we’ve squandered our nation.
“My alarm is not misplaced. ”
A buddy of mine was in Afghanistan some 10 years ago. He worked in the US Army morgue.
There is nothing you can think of that wasn’t done to Muslims … long before Paris.
Guess what Americans did to young Vietnamese girls before giving them a burst of automatic fire?
The planet is overpopulated, yes, and that is why the rich are grabbing everything now; we will never make it to 2100 as is.
It is all brought to us by a handful of people; not the Chinese, Africans, or Muslims.
That’s 600 million if current trends continue. Population growth doesn’t work like that. There’s a carrying capacity and so forth.
Now, it’s not surprising that different demographics have different growth rates. There’s no logical reason the rates should be the same for everyone. I understand why you have a problem with that (tribalism, etc.), and you certainly have a right to try to persuade your fellow citizens to reverse those trends, but in my view whatever you do should be humane and non-fascist.
the population of the US, for every person and family to live in earned comfort as God provided, needs to be UNDER 50M.
25M would be cozy. jobs for everyone, vacation for everyone, enjoyment of life for everyone, very very comfortable. No poverty, no obscene wealth pigs.
INVASION AMERICA
i dont thing the picture of the invasion of this country is being painted in whole. Did you know that all kinds of people enter the US by pretending to be cubas when being rescued by the coast guard between guatamala and puerto rico?
Did you know it cost us thousands of dollars per person and when they are rescued, they get a temporary residency status and welfare? Did you know that lots of these are criminals, gang members and cartel placements?
My vote is to bar entry of everyone. Wallstreet needs more people for their growth currency scam, not in my front yard.
Think. Not thing. Cubans. Not cubas. Guatemala. Not guatamala. Everything else is wrong also.
This illegal ban should show everyone the Neo-Cons own D.C..
Sep 11, 2011 General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned – Seven Countries In Five Years
“This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”
https://youtu.be/9RC1Mepk_Sw
I bet there are many long-term residents who have lost all connections to their countries of origin. Imagine crossing into Canada or something, then coming back and being deported to a country you know little of, losing a lot of your property and so forth.
That’s one of the more clear cut reasons why the EO was fundamentally evil.
Maybe they have civil claim for the damages?
Because the primary purpose of the American government is to ensure the convenience of non-Americans.
Jewish immigrant Samuel Gompers, AFL founder, wrote in 1924:
The primary purpose of the United States government is to protect and defend the Constitution.
Yes, Gompers is there behaving no differently that my Irish-Catholic forebears who — after being obscenely discriminated against by your ideological forebears — gained admittance to Club Caucasian by hating both black people and the next wave of immigrants. Collectively, Irish-Americans pretty well out-hated even WASPs. (Which was denounced by Irish political activists back in the old sod.)
Such behavior is a sad part of the human condition.
I haven’t made claims about what its primary purpose should be, but not being evil strikes me like a sound approach.
“On Sunday afternoon, U.S. District Judge Dolly M. Gee issued an order instructing authorities to transport Vayeghan from Dubai to the U.S. — an infrequently used but not unprecedented legal remedy — and admit him under the terms of his visa, which is set to expire in February, The Times reported.”
Visa was set to expire in February (no mention of the date), weird how i am not allowed to fly abroad if my passport does not have 6 months of validity left. I am Canadian.
I used to cross the border almost daily when I lived in northern Vermont. I stayed at my Canadian girlfriend’s house and worked back in the US. And before that, travelled back and forth for decades. The Canadians were always courteous and friendly, with none of the hostility and sociopathy of the US guards.
That changed after 9-11 when they got more like out side. While still not as bad as the sadists who work as police and federal storm troopers in the US, and often in the military. the good old days of Canadian friendliness are gone, and that started with your right wing Reagan clone PM Harper.
1. Passports and visas are different things.
Vayeghan is a permanent resident of the US — a “Green Card” holder. His visa is based upon that status. Green Cards are issued for ten-year periods and are renewable. In ordinary circumstances, renewal is mostly a formality.
Hope this helps.
Maybe if he’d had a line of tacky shoes and jewelry ..things would have turned out better for him?
“that a customs official confirmed to Marjan’s distraught family what they already suspected: that Ali was being held prisoner at the airport.”
Held prisoner? You mean he was sent to prison? Is that what that custom official confirmed? No. Those are your own words deceptively put into someone else’s mouth. That’s partisan hecking, not journalism.
Where do you, bunch, come from?
Detained against one’s will is called being a prisoner. While your ignorant English is excusable, it continues with seemingly no attempt at improvement. Are you Trump?
Exactly. When armed agents of the state take you and you are not free to leave, that is called imprisonment. If a non-state actor does it, it is almost always a “false imprisonment.”
Well it is a question of technical vs. common usage of the word imprisonment:
Internal citation [1] is to the dictionary.
Also “imprisonment” is commonly understood as a “sentence” imposed by law, as opposed to unlawful imprisonment, unlawful detention, unlawful custody or false imprisonment.
So both understandings/meanings are correct.
When I was 14, I angrily attempted to correct my grandfather, who was a greek and latin scholar, when he said he was arrested by a traffic cop.
Certain he had not been arrested, I asked incredulously, “You went to jail?!”
He said, “no. I was pulled over and given a citation.”
I said, “well you weren’t arrested then, were you?,” very proud of my critical acumen.
He corrected me, and my father confirmed, “To arrest means to hinder movement.”
Alas, it was a good lesson for me about the objective value of words.
Unfortunately common english has suffered major disintegration during the Television era. On one hand most people have come to believe that meaning is relative for most words, based on usage. Synonymization (the popular replacement of the dictionary with the thesaurus) has rendered the nuance of many words almost entirely mute. On the other, many words that would otherwise have rich and diverse meaning are reduced to their official meanings, lending their utility to authoritarian inclinations, such as Ms. Imterfilth above.
The most annoying examples are ‘retard,’ and ‘discriminate.’ The fact that ‘terrific’ has come to mean good, is the ultimate Orwellian reversal, based wholly on its adoption as a popularly ironic ejaculation sometime in the ’50s or 60’s.
The overall effect is a flattening of the mental landscape. And to that, I can only offer one word, which has of late been used to replace ‘shameless’ and ‘despicable’ and to, therefore, lose much its former meaning: sad.
Very important and well said.
The semantics police is here, folks. What next, “it’s not a Muslim ban!”? Good stuff.
It’s amazing how you can’t see the difference between objecting to the use of “imprisoned” simply b/c the individual wasn’t actually in prison and objecting to calling the EO a Muslim Ban b/c 85 percent of Muslims are unaffected by it and no priority is given to non-Muslims.
The former is semantic garbage; the latter is objecting to a misstatement of fact.
Both are semantic deflection from the actual issues.
He was not imprisoned, just detained as if he were a criminal suspect.
It’s not a Muslim ban, just a blanket nationality-based ban.
As if that makes it morally better.
You probably used the term enhanced interrogation.