Since the start of the uprising against Assad’s rule, the Syrian government has claimed, without evidence, that all images of its own brutality are fake.
Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, suggested in an interview broadcast on Thursday that social media evidence of a deadly chemical weapons attack on a rebel-held town in northern Syria last week was fake. The images that shocked the world, he said, were most likely of “a play,” staged by Islamist rebels affiliated with both Al Qaeda and the United States.
Speaking to the French news agency AFP in English, Assad first noted that the town of Khan Sheikhoun, where the mass poisoning took place, “is under the control of Al Nusra Front, which is a branch of Al Qaeda — so the only information the world has had till this moment is published by Al Qaeda.”
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad says the gas attack in #Syria is "100% fabrication", and explains here what he thinks really happened pic.twitter.com/WIiOfrwVFs
— Sky News (@SkyNews) April 13, 2017
“No one has any other information,” he added, ignoring the first-hand accounts of the attack’s aftermath from two photographers working for AFP and civil defense workers who are not militants. “We don’t know if the whole pictures or video that we’ve been seeing are true, or fabricated,” the Syrian president insisted.
Assad also claimed that the air attack on the town carried out that day by his forces took place hours after the first images appeared on social networks of civilians suffering the effects of exposure to a nerve agent. A spokesman for the Russian ministry of defense first suggested last week that the Syrian raid on the town had come later in the day, but Major General Igor Konashenkov also claimed that the nerve agent was dispersed by a Syrian jet’s accidental strike on a rebel store of chemical weapons.
In Assad’s account, his forces played no role at all in the chemical exposure that reportedly killed more than 80 men, women, and children.
Asked directly what happened that day, the Syrian president then followed the lead of his Russian ally, President Vladimir Putin, by suggesting that the whole thing was most likely a “fabrication.”
“Our impression,” Assad replied, is “that the West, mainly the United States, is hand-in-glove with the terrorists. They fabricated the whole story in order to have a pretext for the attack.”
“It wasn’t attack because of what happened in Khan Sheikhoun,” Assad said of the American missile strike on a Syrian airbase, “it’s one event.”
“It’s a stage one — the play that we saw on the social networking and on TV, the propaganda — and the stage two — the military attack,” he added. “That’s what we believe is happening, because it’s only a few days, two days, 48 hours, between the play and the attack.”
Assad offered no evidence at all to support his theory, but that is not new.
Since the very first days of the uprising against Assad’s rule in 2011 — when peaceful protests were met with deadly violence — the outside world has been forced to rely to an unusual degree on information gleaned from the Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube accounts of opposition activists for any evidence of what was happening in Syria.
But that was largely the result of an intentional strategy by Assad’s government, which made it almost impossible for foreign correspondents to report freely from inside the country, and then contested the reliability of social media evidence from opposition activists it sought to tarnish as Islamic extremists.
Then, once Assad’s forces shattered the protest movement and gave momentum to an armed insurgency by actual Islamic extremists, the kidnapping and execution of journalists by the jihadists made reporting from the country very dangerous.
The resulting haze of uncertainty around many of the war’s events, and suspicion that Assad’s forces have also kidnapped foreign reporters, has dovetailed perfectly with his government’s strategy of claiming that all evidence of brutality by its forces is fake.
What makes it difficult at times to refute the Syrian government’s blanket denials and conspiracy theories is that there are very few truly non-partisan sources of information for outside observers to rely on.
To take the example of what’s known about the attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Assad’s claim that “the only information” indicating chemical weapons were used was “published by Al Qaeda,” is untrue, but most of the witnesses to the horrible aftermath do indeed want to see him deposed.
That includes one of the two AFP photographers who documented the suffering of the victims in heart-breaking detail.
Omar Haj-Kadour, who took devastating images of a father holding his dead daughter, has a reputation for accurate reporting, but he also identifies himself on Instagram as a “Media activist – Photographer,” and on Facebook as one of the “coordinators of the revolution in the city of Binnish.”
Five days after the attack, he posted a photograph on Twitter of protesters, including children, holding up signs and flags right beside what activists identified as the impact crater of the chemical-laden explosive dropped on Khan Sheikhoun.
#????_????????#???_?????#?????_????????
— omar haj kadour (@omar_hajkadour) April 9, 2017
Omar haj kadour / AFP pic.twitter.com/HCYqvQrbOr
Another key witness to last week’s attack in Khan Sheikhoun, a British doctor named Shajul Islam, is a volunteer medic in northern Syria, who left behind his career at the National Health Service to lend his support to anti-Assad rebels in 2012.
Do u still doubt that #Sarin is being used on us? Non-reactive pinpoint pupils! We have samples. Will anyone care!? Who will stop it?#Syria pic.twitter.com/WmhDZgLVA6
— Dr Shajul Islam (@DrShajulIslam) April 4, 2017
After Islam recorded video of the victims and spoke to NBC News on the day of the attack, his credibility was called into question by a Lebanese journalist, Jenan Moussa.
Moussa reminded her Twitter followers that the doctor was suspected on having played a role in the kidnapping of an English photojournalist, John Cantlie, in 2012, and was arrested and charged when he returned home to Britain that year.
I cant believe NBC interviewed this guy. Talk to Syrian doctors. This guy was involved in kidnapping 2 journalists https://t.co/UgDkYyrL3U https://t.co/1jypPijYf5
— Jenan Moussa (@jenanmoussa) April 6, 2017
While the doctor was acquitted the following year, his trial was cut short because the main witness, Cantlie himself, had failed to show up to testify against him. It subsequently emerged that Cantlie was absent because he had returned to Syria to make a film about his captivity and was then kidnapped again, along with the American journalist James Foley.
While Islam maintains that he played no role in Cantlie’s first kidnapping, apart from treating him for a gunshot wound inflicted by his jihadist captors, the doctor’s history was seized upon after the attacks by Assad’s supporters, including the Russian embassy in London, who wanted to discredit his testimony.
That pretty much says it all – evidence on “Assad crimes” supplied by a committed jihadist (not even a doctor) pic.twitter.com/BfPyH3zd4z
— Russian Embassy, UK (@RussianEmbassy) April 7, 2017
Even though the doctor’s witness account appears genuine, and his assessment that a nerve agent was used was born out by subsequent testing, rumors about his past have made it easier for Assad supporters to dismiss his testimony out of hand.
In a brief interview with The Intercept, conducted online, the doctor confirmed that he “did treat John,” but shared a link to a video interview in which he denied any role in the kidnapping.
That interview was conducted by one of the few foreign journalists embedded with the rebels in northern Syria, Bilal Abdul Kareem, a former stand-up comedian from New York who converted to Islam.
As Abdul Kareem told the New York Times last month, he is not entirely non-partisan himself. As a Muslim, he sees his role as giving the various participants in the rebellion against Assad, including aid workers like the British doctor, and Islamist factions, including Al Qaeda, a way to explain themselves to Western audiences.
On the day of the attack in Khan Sheikhoun, Abdul Kareem produced a report on the effort to save those exposed to the nerve agent featuring the doctor’s own harrowing footage.
Shajul Islam was struck from the British Medical Registry. That’s because of his terrorism ties. This story suggests it’s BECAUSE of Assad that journalists are not safe in Syria. It suggests that independent journalists are not able to go to Syria. Wrong. How about Eva Bartlett, Vanessa Beeley, Patrick Henningsen, Tommy Soltvedt, Gail Malone…? The list goes on and on! They are there PRESENTLY. And they are safely able to do independent journalism in ALEPPO. Which is under the control of the Syrian Arab Republic. The areas under control of the legitimate government are the safest places to be. If it wasn’t, then why would Shia evacuees be traveling there in droves (from Foua and Kalifaya for example) and why would Christians be celebrating Easter for the first time in Aleppo in 5 years? Maybe you should take a closer look at the sources and their suspicious connections to “moderate rebels.” You are WRONG WRONG WRONG that White Helmets is the Syrian Civil Defense. Ask, as a journalist, what the ICDO has to say about that, eh? Because your primary sources are Jihadi Propogandists. Just ask any one of the many independent journalists who are ACTUALLY in Syria now.
Yesterday CNN Gorani show featured a UN weapon inspector to Syria who did not believe the US version of the chemical event. He said there was no evidence that the Assad regime could have rebuilt any Sarin gas bombs since 2014 without the UN teams knowing about it. When even CNN starts doubting the US intelligence……
A new report by an MIT professor claims it was likely staged:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mit-expert-claims-latest-chemical-100819428.html
Full report: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwR2F3NFFVWDExMnc/view
HuffPo had a great analysis two weeks ago:
“The counter-narrative offered by the Russians and Syrians, however, has been minimized, mocked and ignored by both the American media and the Trump administration. So, too, has the very illogic of the premise being put forward to answer the question of why President Assad would risk everything by using chemical weapons against a target of zero military value, at a time when the strategic balance of power had shifted strongly in his favor. Likewise, why would Russia, which had invested considerable political capital in the disarmament of Syria’s chemical weapons capability after 2013, stand by idly while the Syrian air force carried out such an attack, especially when their was such a heavy Russian military presence at the base in question at the time of the attack?
Such analysis seems beyond the scope and comprehension of the American fourth estate. Instead, media outlets like CNN embrace at face value anything they are told by official American sources, including a particularly preposterous insinuation that Russia actually colluded in the chemical weapons attack; the aforementioned presence of Russian officers at Al Shayrat air base has been cited as evidence that Russia had to have known about Syria’s chemical warfare capability, and yet did nothing to prevent the attack.
To sustain this illogic, the American public and decision-makers make use of a sophisticated propaganda campaign involving video images and narratives provided by forces opposed to the regime of Bashar al-Assad, including organizations like the “White Helmets,” the Syrian-American Medical Society, the Aleppo Media Center, which have a history of providing slanted information designed to promote an anti-Assad message (Donald Trump has all but acknowledged that these images played a major role in his decision to reevaluate his opinion of Bashar al-Assad and order the cruise missile attack on Al Shayrat airbase.)”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/syria-chemical-attack-al-qaeda-played-donald-trump_us_58ea226fe4b058f0a02fca4d
An analysis of the video:
“2. 00:21 – close up of the “victim’s” eye shows how well oxygenated the victim’s blood is, which is strong exculpatory of sarin. It’s hard to make out the victim’s pupils clearly but they may be contracted in moderate light, which would be weak inculpatory evidence. Given how easily it is to produce miosis (pinpoint pupils) and how many drugs are miotic, the presence of miosis is not even close to being sufficient evidence to establish that there was a sarin attack. And yet this idgit Islam keeps coming back to this again and again. It’s all he has.
3. 00:31 – suddenly the portly dude in the background is in a white smock and has a face mask hanging down below his nose, which means 1) it is useless and 2) he probably doesn’t have a clue how to use it.
[…]
31. This vid was uploaded about 10 hours or so after the attack was alleged to have occurred. From the way the shadows shift during the external shots, it is clear that many hours passed while the video was in the making. And then, of course, there is editing, which must have taken hours given all of the snips that are evident. Consequently, the video itself raises serious questions that it may have been pre-produced days prior to the alleged attack. For all we know everyone in this vid is an actor, or a drugged captive/prisoner, a suggestion that may give context to the observation that all of the victims shown are men except for two.”
http://logophere.com/Topics2017/17-04/17_015-BLA-ShajulIslam.htm
Some additional articles:
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/
https://www.rt.com/usa/384520-postol-report-sarin-syria/
according to both the BBC, as well as the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, the syrian government`s last chemical weapons were removed from the country in june 2014.
if so (and there is no reason to doubt the assertion), then who and what exactly was it that killed those poor syrian children in khan sheikhoun near idlib on april 4, 2017 – prompting the US to reciprocally attack “assad`s murderous regime” and prepare the public for a US intervention?
one thing is for sure, and that is that there is a massive contradiction between the two BBC articles listed below…and it is contradictions such as this, or the purposely misleading reporting of the likes of robert mackey, that dupe the public…and lead them to war.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27974379 (june 2014)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39488539 (april 2017)
It is quite astounding that such tripe is being published by the intercept. Mackey is fishing for whales with a piece of corn. Not once has the question of ‘who benefits’ from a gas attack been asked. So if you could remind yourself what happened a couple of years ago with redlines being crossed in ghouta and Obama and Cameron masturbating to the thought that they might be able to bomb people in Syria out of their miserable lives(we are much more efficient at killing, remember), you would ask yourself if Assad’s government is so suicidal that it would risk having the biggest dick on earth molest you with cruise missiles and bombs of democracy. Obviously not. Theodore Postole claims something else but i will leave that up to you to read. But just swishing around rubbish because you assume it to be true is kind weird hypocritical.
This is a news story or even a proper opinion column. It’s just a biased summary of Assad’s position with layers of chauvinistic derision slathered around.
I thought we could expect better from The Intercept.
Trash.
Not so fast!
I think we should wait till the Wall is built, then we can chuck him over. Otherwise, he will sneak right in again.
… was replying to Francesca …..
When I read Mackey talking about British doctor Shashul Islam, it was all over for me.
This guy has no right to call himself a British doctor, he has been struck off because of his involvement of kidnapping and execution of journalists.
He has thrown his lot in with Al Quaeda/Al Nusra
Either Mackey is unaware of this(and for a journalist that casts doubt on all he has to say) or he is fudging the issue and seeking to deceive
At any rate, if he continues to be a mouth piece for terrorists he should be chucked off the Intercept
Do you actually wear a white helmet as you type?
The likelihood of any reputable and honest reporter surviving in AQ governed territory is virtually nil. No dissent is allowed by these US sponsored wahhabis.
It is quite clear that this ‘sarin gas attack’ like all its predecessors was organised to justify US intervention in order to smash the Syrian state into pieces small enough for US allies to eat.
Don’t State Department releases need a copyright notice?
“Dr.” Shajul Islam is a key source for many news stories – and he is very obviously not a credible, neutral, agent. He appears in a video broadcast by NBC News, that’s viewed over 11 million times on facebook, in which Islam states that the Syrian government will drop nerve agents on the “the civilian population of America” http://www.nbcnews.com/video/gas-attacks-are-a-chilling-reality-for-syrian-doctor-shajul-islam-914829379655
In 2012, The Daily Mail quoted kidnap victim John Cantlie about his British captor: ‘When he told me he was an NHS doctor, I thought it was weird.
‘This is a man who has taken an oath to save people and help them, and here he is walking around with a Kalashnikov and preaching Sharia law. There are not any doctors who I know that do that.
‘He clearly believed in what he was doing but to follow something to that extreme is the disturbing thing. He was visibly upset when the execution was called off.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193771/John-Cantlie-NHS-doctor-led-Syrian-terror-cell-took-British-journalist-hostage.html#ixzz4dYX4WMy4
Later that same year, The Telegraph reported:
“Shajul Islam, 27, and a second man, Jubayer Chowdhury, 25, were charged with kidnapping photographer John Cantlie and his Dutch colleague Jeroen Oerlemans in the war torn country in July last year.
But the Crown Prosecution Service today formally dropped the case on the first day of the scheduled trial after it emerged neither the two alleged victims are able to give evidence in the trial.
Mark Dennis QC, prosecuting, told Kingston Crown Court the case rested “wholly” on their evidence and it was a ‘frustration’ that prosecutors were unable to call them.
He would not expand on the reasons why.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10441099/NHS-doctor-accused-of-Syrian-kidnap-has-case-dropped.html
Journalist John Cantlie was unable to testify at the trial of Shajul Islam because he was kidnapped a second time – along with James Foley – and is still captive. Jereon Oerlemans, the photographer, was later killed in Libya.
The Daily Beast in 2014 described Shajul Islam as “part of a growing network of foreign fighters working together and with ISIS in Syria and Iraq” http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/20/james-foley-s-executioner-was-one-of-many-british-jihadis-in-isis.html
Today, this same Shajul Islam is providing the narrative to western media outlets, including NBC, BBC and many more, of a sarin attack that he has attributed to the Syrian government.
I think this demands a correction to the article
No shit! What is this guy talking about? what kind of research has he made when a google search of the name of this jihadist doctor, reveals how deep in terrorist groups is he… really? It is a shame for this website, wich by the way is one of the few things that are readable out there… is Mackey a real journalist? Because if he is the shitty journalist he appears to be I will not read anymore of his work, if you call work to spew the propaganda fueled by Washington and the weapons manufacturers… by the way the U.S. side of the war killed around 80 kids that were lured with candy to a car bomb, these are I guess the freedom fighters that Mackey likes so much? Really? guys? when are you going to just kick that guy out? not a single mention to the pictures of the crater that the MIT professor debunked? no retaliation against another one of the corporate, war monger, so called journalists, it is ok? you cool with Mackey spewing lies upon lies? just tell us because this would be the last fucking article I read here, I have had enough media brain wash, can’t take this shit anymore…
Motive for chemical attack : Assad and Putin wanted desperately to convince Trump to directly militarily intervene against the regime, in a war they were winning. ( after victory in Aleppo and even political inclusion of Assad in peace talks )
Shameful stuff, The Intercept. I’m guessing the civil aid workers you’re referring to are the White Helmets, who have been linked to Al Qaeda via photographs and videos and whose funding is anything but impartial. I’m not saying they’re terrorists, but they’re definitely not without loyalties and agendas.
Like others in this comment thread, I’m more persuaded by the reports of chemical weapons MIT professor Theodore Postol and investigative reporter Robert Parry, both of whom say there’s no evidence to blame the Syrian government and definite clues that show this attack wasn’t launched from the air. When you factor in Occam’s Razor, i.e. who actually had motive and would benefit from this attack, I definitely lean toward this being a set-up.
None of that means Assad is a good guy, or that I think the USA was involved, but anyone who thinks the CIA hasn’t done this sort of stuff in the past is naive.
Regardless of who the culprit was, we conducted an airstrike in violation of international law, killing civilians and taking out infrastructure that allowed ISIS to mount an offensive in the area. If we cared about the Syrians, we’d help Assad end the war and mandate free and fair elections. But we don’t care about them, and if we go in there to attempt regime change, I hope that becomes apparent to everyone as the tens of thousands of bodies start to stack up.
The US has a funny way of going in, destroying a country, killing one or two “bad guys”, claiming victory, and then leaving that country to rot, with thousands of civilians dying every year because of our interference. When will we accept that the civilians who die after we leave, and continue to die for years in the case, are also on us?
I am honestly surprised that ANYONE outside the “mainstream” would mention the ties of those “reporting” on the alleged chemical attack. I’m not surprised that Mackey would dismiss those ties.
Here’s a nice interview with a former OPCW expert who points out that the rebels do have Sarin.
https://www.channel4.com/news/syria-chemical-attack-reaction
Just read Anne Barnard’s article in NYT here and you will learn the sordid truth.
In that article the authoritative Ms Barnard states as follows:
If this doesn’t give the game away nothing would. The “based on long experience” phrase was instinctively added do deflect suspicion, but instead it does little to make the bloke’s subsequent warning anything but ominous.
There can reasonably be no person on earth who has had long experience with chemical attacks at the receiving end and still go about their business. Even conceding that he always takes precautions all the time, there just hasn’t been so many chemical attacks that would generate any credible form of “experience”. Ms Barnard knows it, but she is too careless to exclude this anonymous information to avoid implicating the rebels. Perhaps, it makes her article more sexy.
So why does this fellow tell people to “wear masks”? Obviously, the only reason he would do it is if he sees bombs falling on his warehouse where he knows there is Sarin gas stored and thus can foresee the catastrophe about to occur.
This is also the reason why one can see a disproportionate number of women and children affected. The crooked rebels had protected themselves with masks after getting the warning. The neighbors had no such luxury.
How very inconvenient for Ms Barnard to make this slip! But good no one saw it, probably too few people read the Failing NYT to notice this.
Right on. Also, how does any amount of experience let anyone distinguish a plane carrying chemical bombs from the same plane armed with conventional ordnance? Does it smell differently? This story sure does. It smells of bullsh*t.
Now, here is some alternative consideration of what may have happened — by an MIT professor, no less:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/assessment-of-white…/5584867
I’ll bet you ten bucks this Mackey chap will neither apologize to anyone nor update his post to show evidence based on science.
And I’ll bet you another ten bucks that Greenwald will write an article on this very soon to correct the crap left behind here by this Omidyar stooge.
GlobalResearch is a conspiracy website, so you might want a new source.
MIT’s Theodore Postol, Professor of Science, Technology and National Security Policy, debunked claims made in 2013 about a chemical attack in Ghouta / Damascus. Now Postol analyses the White House-published “false, misleading and amateurish intelligence” re 2017 events at Khan Sheikhoun in a report @ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwR2F3NFFVWDExMnc/view An addendum is found @ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_Vs2rjE9TdwUE9tam16a3F0Wjg/view
Prof. Postol is calling for two investigations – one into the Syria attacks and one into the false US intelligence reports created this year and in 2013.
I know nothing about the website, but Postol’ analysis ( and his impressive track record) is all over the Internet. I don’t know who did the latest attack, but I know our government lies about evidence when they wan to condemn the demon figure of the moment.
RIP INTERCEPT
https://t.co/59Sb9DvEWy
This is actually a pretty lazy article in that it explicitly postulates that the sheer magnitude of war propaganda agains the Syrian government is proof on some basic level, of its truth, regardless of whether claims can be discounted one by one. This is a dangerous assumption simply because a much vaster and more sophisticated network of propaganda is orchestrated from the west than anything that the Syrian, Russian, or Iranian governments can match, try as they might. It is also utterly bizarre to me that the Intercept is so confident in its defenses of Bilal Abdul Kareem and Shajul Islam from quite legitimate scrutiny of their motives and compromised positions. I cannot see how it is anything but prudent to watch their media output and be suspicious of who are they covering for and what interests they are serving – this is critical for war reporting. The fact that Shajul Islam was acquitted of the charges he was accused on something of a technicality clearly cannot be the whole story and to suggest otherwise is astoundingly naive. For a case to be brought against him John Caintlie must have actually brought forth evidence to UK prosecutors after all. Given the British governments’ history of cultivating jihadi assets one has to question what is really going on, this is critical journalism. Also, it is not unreasonable to imagine how foreigners like Bilal and Shajul may be guided by genuine, even benign, beliefs and still be being used by propagandists in the west and by armed opposition. You cannot seriously entertain the idea that the media they put out from opposition held-areas is not influenced by the exigencies and agendas of those armed groups, especially when they’ve proven punitive to other reporting in the past. It is made to seem that so few foreign correspondents are operating is only down the government’s wanting to control its war narrative. But the reason most foreign correspondents no longer operate in Syria is to due fear of kidnapping by jihadi groups, as happened to John Caintlie and Jeroen Oerlemans, both of whom were obviously ready at one point to testify against Shajul Islam.
The war is always cruel, I believe in theory that Syrian soldiers bombed rebels and hit the storage with this chemicals. They didn’t know there are chemicals.
But we should not forget the bigger picture of this war: The US politicians an billionaires want to separate Syria and build the pipeline from Qatar to Europe through Syria and Turkey. Therefore, the CIA made rebellion in Syria and organized Muslims to fight Assad who refused such pipeline. The war is about pipeline and the war itself is a business. The rest are daily horror details that will arise every day until the war is finished. If we want to stop such deaths, we must be against the war produced by the USA. It is not about Assad, it is about the USA.
Assad may be correct. However, you, Robert Mackey, have no credibility. You need to apologize for your garbage article that mirrored this one, complaining about Trump people saying that the “rise in anti-semitism” was fake. You were 100% wrong about every single thing in that article, so why should anyone believe anything that you say. The war-hawks have been trying to overthrow Assad for over a decade and they’ve faked gas attacks in the past, so this one is probably faked too. Not fake gas, but faking an attack to blame Assad. You, Robert Mackey, are a worthless hack and you should feel lucky to have a job.
Saw this earlier today and think it’s worth a read:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/assessment-of-white-house-intelligence-report-about-nerve-agent-attack-in-khan-shaykhun-syria/5584867
feel sorry for you intercept…
RIP
It seems pretty obvious to me.
Mackey is quite obviously cover for The Intercept, for when the assault on real investigative, non-corporate-sponsored journalism hits the next level, and state-sponsored propaganda (or those who agree to toe the party line) becomes the only source of information allowed on the internet — under the guise of “combating fake news” of course.
We should take it easy on him. He probably already has trouble sleeping at night, and he’s serving a purpose.
This article cites as one of 2 key witnesses, Dr. Shajul Islam. But:
1) this doctor was in the hospital, not at the site where the bomb was dropped. Even if he’s completely credible, neither him nor the victims would be able to distinguish whether the chemicals came from the bomb dropped by the Syrian army, or were they from a chemical depot that was hit by the bomb, or, if the MIT scientist is correct, that it was from a separate explosion set up by the rebels on the ground and not from the air-dropped bombs at all.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/04/66712.html
2) His claim that it was sarin also seems to contradict many other medical professionals’ opinion that sarin would remain on the victim’s skin and clothing and would be deadly upon contact, yet both the first responders and himself freely touched the patients (or dead bodies) without gloves, and were seemingly unharmed.
3) As the following article points out, this doctor tweeted: ‘Patients are flooding in …’, YET throughout that time he had time to film, tweet and solicit videocalls from anyone who wanted to learn more. What kind of an emergency room doctor is that?
https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/jumping-conclusions-something-not-adding-idlib-chemical-weapons-attack/
There’s always time for one more tweet, Maggie.
Even right-wingers cannot stomach yet another false flag: http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2017/04/peter-hitchens-our-noble-cause-dropping-bombs-on-behalf-of-al-qaeda.html
It is fun to walk into a thread full of Assad regime apologists. If this was a few decades earlier, you all would be Charles Manson’s acolytes. Assad is fighting to maintain his family dynasty, if he loses, so do his nepotist arrangements, which is not a bad thing. This has nothing to do with secular versus religious or moderate versus extremist. This is about a despot clinging to power and a populace who does not want him and his regime. However, the populace is outgunned so many flee or resort to asymmetric warfare. The French put the Alawite minority in power over the majority demographic. It is the old technique of colonial rule. What is needed is proportional representation and the minority regime (whose sole claim to legitimacy is a bigger weapons cache) does not want that. The chemical weapons attack is among the least of the Assad family dynasty’s sins. As for ISIS and Nusra et al, just like the Assad regime, are byproducts of decades of Colonialist foreign policies. Peace will begin when the populace take their country back from the nepotist factions on the one side and the radicalized factions on the other. You regime apologist ghouls can lick Assad’s blood stained fingers while his days are numbered. You all sound like regime stooges anyway so you probably already are. You can continue to do so in the Hague.
You really think those who you call “Assad regime apologists” like authoritarians in power? Sometimes you have to choose between evils. The advancement of American imperialism, for one, should not be encouraged. The virtual alliance between the US an ISIS/Al-Qaeda in Syria is not a good thing either.
I am skeptical of binarisms. To decry one does not mean an endorsement of the other. In any event, the Assad regime needs to go and his acolytes can go with him.
Hasbara retard . were are u probably In Haifa
At least I know where you are, darling.
troll alert!!!
Popular, proportional rule in a country with a Sunni Muslim majority and large non Sunni populations is an illusion and an invitation to a blood bath. Check out Yemen and Bahrain if you don’t believe me.
The people, will magically, take power. This magically thinking always reminds me of the bubble bursting quip by Stalin about he supposed power of the Catholic Church fighting against Hitler: How many divisions does the “populace” have.
The choice in Syria is pretty much binary. Either Assad or ISIS/Al Queda. You have chose ISIS/Al Queda. I suppose in this instance you are an apologist for the terrorists.
One thing is for certain, the people did not pick the Assad regime. Maybe you pick the Assad regime for yourself and your family, but not the Syrian people. The regime must go. As for splinter groups like ISIS et al, if the Syrian people want them, there is little anyone can do. If the Syrian people do not want ISIS et al, then they must go as well. There are always other options and the Syrian people must take their country back, one battle at a time until they get the leadership they want.
Mr. Mackey
The jury is still out on the Idlib chemical attack. Believing either the liar Trump or the murderer Assad is risky. What is not risky is reiterating the war crimes the Assad regime has committed with their Russian counterparts. The chemical attacks amount to a minor amount of the total casualties. Of course, the use of chemical weapons is never to be applauded whether by al-Qaeda or Syria. Just access any Amnesty International report from 2012 until the present. Assad has out performed the jihadists by a long ways in war crimes, crimes against humanity and civilian casualties. Assad started the war specifically targeting civilians. He has dropped thousands of the indiscriminately killing barrel bombs.
The 2016-2017 UN report accuses the regime of targeting hospitals, ambulances and hospital workers, so it’s no surprise that in Idlib attack, a hospital was targeted by the regime. Trump (now) does have one thing right: there is no political solution that keeps Assad in power.
What is really surprising is the amount of Assad apologists that post here.
As though Amnesty OR the UN are reliable sources and unbiased. Please.
The Syrian civilians death toll due to the U.S gvt has now overmatched Assad’s regime and his russian friends’ record…
In Mosul, the U.S just doesn’t give a fuck of the children
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/4/5/headlines/300_000_civilians_have_fled_mosul_as_us_strikes_reportedly_kill_more_civilians
In Yemen, neither
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/4/13/headlines/un_famine_in_yemen_african_nations_fast_becoming_an_inevitability
The U.S admitted using uranium bombs in Iraq :
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/19/us-depleted-uranium-weapons-civilian-areas-iraq
Does that make you an apologist of war crimes because you simply ignore the one point of view that could harm the perfect picture of a rightful America bombing for peace ? Humanitarian retaliation is the mother of bomb…
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/3/30/amnesty_hundreds_of_iraqi_civilians_killed
The question is more that neither Assad nor the american administration, nor the russians are angels. But what’s at stake is bigger than so-called humanitarian concerns, it’s about propaganda to achieve an agenda. There’s a U.S agenda, Assad’s agenda and Putin’s agenda. They don’t obviously match, but they all agree on faking news for their interests. The truth is in the middle, but obviously, bad faith reigns supreme…And it would not be silly to imagine that Trump bombed Syria just to prove Mc Cain and other adepts of “Russian meddling conspiration” where wrong to mock him as Putin’s biatch…
Your assertions as to Assad’s ‘war crimes’ exceeding those of the (US backed) wahhabi militias is simply assertion. Your tired remarks about barrel bombs, which is to say improvised ordnance, contrasts with the state of the art weaponry that the ‘rebels’ as you laughably call the imperialist proxies, are known to possess.
The reality is that this is the front line in a war for global hegemony waged by the United States. And that you by suggesting that it is in fact a humanitarian campaign directed against Assad’s regime are simply repeating what was said about Libya, Iraq, Kuwait, the US sponsored war on Iran by Iraq, the wars against Yugoslavia, the installation of neo-nazis in Kiev…. and so on, including Vietnam (a battle for freedom).
The wonder is not that you promote this hoary old propaganda but that there are a few sentient beings who credit such drivelling.
Is there a journalist in the house that remembers Iraq?
Y’know.
Fabricated evidence.
A conspiracy involving hundreds including complicit media.
AKA US history.
This is the most piss poor intercept article I have seen since the guy that made up all those black lives matter stories worked for it. There is such a thing called burden of proof fallacy. This whole article is based on such a fallacy. If you want to bomb a country, the burden to prove that it is justified lies on you, not Assad to prove his innocence. There are so many other details wrong with it but the biggest mistake was that it is completely based on that fallacy.
When one reads such article on The Intercept, one wonders if it is worth to have any hope…This Mackey – and is not the first time – write just the falsehood we keep reading and listening to the various CNN Guardian etc…does really ‘ the spirit ‘ The Intercept was founded, allow for this nonsense to be published? How can I encourage, suggest people and friends to read TI if any Tom Dick and Harry are allowed to publish such nonsense?
TI seems to be following the once-excellent Grauniad.
It’s only occasionally worth the effort to mock Bob Mackey, Deputy Assistant Social Media Director for the Intelligence [sic] Community. And others are doing the job here, today, very nicely.
So, I’m just here to congratulate photo on coining the term “Borg State,” which is as brilliantly accurate and evocative a description for our sorry-assed reality as anyone has offered in a long time.
I’m even gonna try to get Maisie to adopt it. ;^)
P.S. It’s a damned good thing for the Borg that it doesn’t have to rely solely upon Mackey’s recruiting efforts, ain’t it? If it did, resistance wouldn’t be futile.
Doug – you might want to check out Sic Semper Tyrannis (http://turcopolier.typepad.com), a blog run by a retired Green Beret who taught Arabic at Westpoint. They use the term ‘the Borg’. As a left of centre anti-war lefty, I never would have guessed that I would find myself most at home with a bunch of retired military guys who are totally fed up with the neocons. The discussion there is very high quality and very well informed.
http://archive.is/XuTec
http://www.alternet.org/world/bilal-abdul-kareem-us-journalist-syria-aleppo-propaganda-extremist-rebels
Quote: “Assad offered no evidence at all to support his theory, but that is not new.”
Well – others did …
Quote from Swedish Doctors for Human Rights http://swedhr.org/
“Conclusion: ‘Lifesaving’ procedures on the children showed in the White Helmets videos were found to be fake, and ultimately performed on dead children. The syringe used in the ‘intracardial injection’ performed on the male infant was empty, or its fluid was never injected into the child. This same child showed, briefly, discrete life-signs (uncertain in my judgement) in the first segment of WH Vid-1. If so, this child might have died during the lapse in which the ‘lifesaving’ manoeuvres showed in the White Helmets movie went on. (Which is not the same than affirming that the personnel seen in the videos caused the dead of the infant. In forensic terms, the actual cause of death, as well as the mode and the issue of intent, refer to different items than those treated in our analysis).”
Sources: WARNING – violent content
http://theindicter.com/analysis-of-evidence-contradicts-allegations-on-syrian-gas-attacks/
http://theindicter.com/white-helmets-movie-updated-evidence-from-swedish-doctors-confirm-fake-lifesaving-and-malpractices-on-children/
http://theindicter.com/swedish-doctors-for-human-rights-white-helmets-video-macabre-manipulation-of-dead-children-and-staged-chemical-weapons-attack-to-justify-a-no-fly-zone-in-syria/
Source: WARNING – very violent content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNt7T32L1AQ
“Quote: “Assad offered no evidence at all to support his theory, but that is not new.””
Typical one-line propaganda from the Intercept. ‘Abu Graib was a few bad apples … the NSA spying is not illegal …”
Great Links, thanks!
oh well, the only reason i ever click on a mackey article is to read the comments that tear apart his latest propaganda slinging. reminds me of the guardian, these days.
The headline is all you need from Mackey. He thinks in tweets like the orange buffoon.
He’s a fucking state tool; paid to get drunk basically.
I hope those stipend cheques from the CIA are helping to pay for your new pool house, Robert Mackey.
The world was not forced into relying on social media as you suggest. Rather, the world has been force fed a social media narrative, developed by the New York public relations firm Purpose, and promoted by NGOs funded by the convicted inside-trader and hedge fund mogul George Soros. Purpose and Avaaz have direct ties to the heart of the military-industrial complex.
https://insightjournalblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/23/wag-the-dog-campaigns-of-purpose/
Assad didnt do anything you effing dork. Trump has convinced the Chinese to fuck up North Korea an the Runway Was Next Day Operational. Why Isnt Zero Game Bob Mackey Writing The Story On http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/syria-claims-us-led-coalition-strike-isis-chemical-weapons-depot-has-killed-hundreds
STOPPING BS OVERSEAS MEANS FUCKING THE DEEP STATE AT HOME PEOPLE: The FBI FISA Order for Carter Page INCLUDES Paul Manafort and Roger Stone TARGETING All Subject Communications. They Represent The Very Such Political and Economic Elites (and not so elites) Populatinjg the NSAs Hammer Supercomputer Project Dragnet Database. The Same NSA Hammer Supercomputer Project Dragnet Database that we already have copies of in “evidence pending” Files at the FBI where those 47 Hard Drives and 600,000,000 Pages of evidence are stored. Those are the same 47 Hard Drives and 600,000,000 pages that CIA Contractor Dennis Montgomery Received Immunity fo Signing Sealing an Delivering to the FBI and US Attorneys Office in the District of Columbia Office Two Years Ago.
The FBI FISA Order identifies as the FBI the lead agency to be AIDED BY the NSA CIA and may be shared broadly within the Adminstration. A Few On That List Include: Susan Rice. John Brennan. Admiral Rogers. Jim Clapper. Other Senior Administration Officials.
That Puts Essentially Everyone in Obamas Administration, The Transitional Administration and even a few in Trumps Administration on Future White House
Witness Lists. Boy if those (R)s are smart they should call Susan Rice to Testify
First to soften up their other constitutional oath challenged (D)s like Clapper, Brennan, Yates, Lynch and Rogers.
Anyone here think our beloved (R)s can Resist Calling Susan Rice BACK to Testify?
You know who else has expressed scepticism about it being Assad? Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill. Under the guise of “just asking questions” and because “all governments lie,” it’s assumed the near unanimous agreement Assad is responsible is suggested to be part of an elaborate neo-con war mongering group think. Sad.
Elaborate neocon war mongering group think conspiracy or something that’s actually happened before in the past done by a group known to have possession of and training in the use of chemical weapons?
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/17/how-the-islamic-state-seized-a-chemical-weapons-stockpile/
Hmmm, whose theory on what happened in the alleged chemical attack carries more weight? Some anonymous pro-government comment lackey or an MIT scientist?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/assessment-of-white-house-intelligence-report-about-nerve-agent-attack-in-khan-shaykhun-syria/5584867
Wouldn’t it be crazy if they had actually planned for this kind of thing before?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-the-use-of-chemical-weapons/5583784
And of course your reductio ad absurdum argument boils down to “The ONLY possible explanation is that Assad did it, and if you “just ask questions” it means you believe in some elaborate conspiracy theory from a government that has NEVER lied to justify acts of war before!”
God forbid anyone express skepticism when the status quo is busy ignoring actual history in the hurried runup to launching more missiles or another war geared on “regime change” – especially when it might mean that facts inconvenient to the shoddy case being made might surface. Oh, I dunno, maybe like that ISIS (itself a CIA construct) has used chemical weapons numerous times in the region. But don’t take my word for it. Here’s the conspiracy mongering NYT’s take: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/world/middleeast/isis-chemical-weapons-syria-iraq-mosul.html
“Then, once Assad’s forces shattered the protest movement and gave momentum to an armed insurgency by actual Islamic extremists, the kidnapping and execution of journalists by the jihadists made reporting from the country very dangerous.”
How much more disingenuous can you get?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-hughes/us-support-for-al-qaeda-l_b_10089410.html
From 1983, “bringing real muscle to bear against Syria” by Graham E Fuller:
http://www.worldinwar.eu/cia-bringing-real-muscle-to-bear-against-syria-story-doc-cia-1983/
From 2014 even the Belfast telegraph knows
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/CIA-MI6-AND-TURKEYS-ROGUE-GAME-IN-SYRIA-CLAIMS-ANKARA-WORKED-WITH-US-AND-UK-TO-SMUGGLE-GADDAFIS-WEAPONS-TO-JIHADI-FIGHTERS-AND-JABHAT-ALNUSRA-WERE-AIDED-BY-TURKISH-INTELLIGENCE-IN-SARIN-GAS-ATTACKS-30183069.HTML
Issue #1: Prior false claims by U.S. government about Syrian government responsibility for the 2013 Ghouta attack have been refuted in some detail. Notably these claims were initially supported by a “UN investigation”.
Issue #2: The U.S. government has a long track record of making false claims about WMDs to justify military intervention and regime change, as the 2003 Iraq War demonstrated. Hence the credibility factor is pretty low; “trust us” is not an acceptable argument from proven liars.
Issue #3: The Syrian government has no reasonable motive for carrying out chemical weapons attacks given that it has been consistently recovering lost territory from various Al Qaeda and ISIS linked factions using conventional means:
http://www.dw.com/en/is-assad-to-blame-for-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/a-38330217
Issue #4: Where are the reliable chemical tests? Why wasn’t clothing and soil samples from the attack area collected and tested in an open manner by independent labs? Notice that such independent tests were also a factor in discrediting claims about the 2013 chemical attack? For example, if chemical tests of the composition of the poison gas matched various reference standards (Syrian sarin stockpiles? ISIS or Al Qaeda-manufactured sarin? Turkish sarin stockpiles? Libyan sarin stockpiles?) , then you can say it probably came from such-and-such a stockpile. The absence of such evidence is highly suspicious; clearly resources exist for conducting such tests.
Those are the questions that real investigative journalists would be asking; Borg State PR monkeys would of course be avoiding them.
Agree. Mackey is a Borg State PR monkey. No idea what purpose he serves here.
he is the designated borg state pr monkey. he has backups if he falls ill, too.
I’ve wondered about this too. My most optimistic take on it is that he is protective cover. Have you read about the new NATO “hybrid threat” centre for the combatting of “fake news” being set up in Finland? What’s that all about? I have a feeling that some of the more purely critical websites are going to be in the crosshairs. Being able to point to Mackey is a way of pre-emptively saying, oh, please sirs, we are fair and balanced, look you. Maybe there is method to the Intercept’s Mackey madness.
Thank you for posting this level-headed comment. Mackey is becoming increasingly right-wing in his writing. What? He expects us to believe the CIA and the rest of the military-industrial-intelligence cabal in Washington (or, more correctly, in Virginia)?????? Who does he think he’s kidding?
With regard to your Question #4, you ask a great question! The answer is: OPCW hasn’t even sent their FFM (fact finding mission) to Khan Sheikhoun yet. As they state, they are waiting for the security situation to be favorable. This is an Al Nusra controlled area, as Assad correctly points out, and it is not safe for “officials” in any capacity to travel there to investigate. Here’s where OPCW says it (they have stated that Sarin or Sarin-like substances were found in autopsy and living victim tissues, but this still doesn’t mean it was the Syrian Arab Republic who did the poisoning. Nor does it even mean they were exposed by munitions. The substance could simply have been applied to their skin or released in a closed room (as was the case with the Ghouta attack–ie. Death Chamber.)https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-director-general-shares-incontrovertible-laboratory-results-concluding-exposure-to-sarin/
once again, all or most of your “social media evidence” (whatever the hell that means) has been thoroughly debunked by multiple sources – some of whom even a CFR/IC/AQ lover like yourself couldn’t refute.
by the way, sarin has no smell. so that “first hand” report actually knocks giant holes in your preferred account with the headline alone.
as for “assad’s guys maybe sorta kidnapped journalists”, that’s rich. most reporters who known the region (unlike yourself) say the biggest hindrance to on-the-ground reporting is the mafia-like (if you’re lucky) kidnapping and ransom of any westerner that sets foot in “rebel” areas and the takfiri (if you’re very unlucky) use of hostages for both ransom and brutal execution of “apostates”. again: common sense.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/aleppo-falls-to-syrian-regime-bashar-al-assad-rebels-uk-government-more-than-one-story-robert-fisk-a7471576.html
but whatever – keep carrying water for the fanatics. keep using Dr. Islam the AQ GP as your source. just don’t act surprised when people call you on your BS the second all of this is demolished by objective facts.
These AFP photographers are ‘activists’ here is a tweet from Hej-Kadour.. “Numerous attempts of the Iranian regime forces and militia to advance on the village of liberated planet but all failed to #???_????_??????? praise Allah”. Of course they would not be alive if they did not have sympathy for the head choppers, that is why no Western Reporters dare go. The idea that Assad was responsible is very suspicious, what would be his motive? He is winning the war with conventional weapons, using chemical weapons is the one thing he knows would unite his enemies including the US. He would need to be stupid to do so. Professor Theodor Postal at MIT has a 14 page report out “White House claims of Syrian Goverment chemical weapons attack obviously fake” https://imgur.com/a/W4zQx#xC7yL6U The US Government are lying to you.
From 2014.
http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/CIA-MI6-AND-TURKEYS-ROGUE-GAME-IN-SYRIA-CLAIMS-ANKARA-WORKED-WITH-US-AND-UK-TO-SMUGGLE-GADDAFIS-WEAPONS-TO-JIHADI-FIGHTERS-AND-JABHAT-ALNUSRA-WERE-AIDED-BY-TURKISH-INTELLIGENCE-IN-SARIN-GAS-ATTACKS-30183069.HTML
From 1983, and it’s still about pipeline
http://www.worldinwar.eu/cia-bringing-real-muscle-to-bear-against-syria-story-doc-cia-1983/
For additional background-
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking
http://www.alternet.org/world/bilal-abdul-kareem-us-journalist-syria-aleppo-propaganda-extremist-rebels