With His Jerusalem Move, Trump Flings Gas Can Over a Region Aflame

Nice friends you got yourself there, Glen.

ROFL! Awwwwww, shucks, did i hurty YourMom’s wittle zio feelings? :D

Unfotunalety ist the other way round and tiny Israel is pressuring the world’s eczeptional, only superpower

I really don’t care what Trump does.

I am here to expose commenters’ inconsistencies and hypocrisy, and present alternate facts.

Get real, dude!

Checkmate!

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The state-worshipping western window licker’s doppelganger has managed to capture the mouth breathing cretin’s mindless inanity brilliantly!

Haha, life expectancy of un peacekeepers within the Range of israeli weapons bis quite short. Like the Mafia the jewish state tries to silence all witnesses to it’s crimes. ( remember USS LIBERTY)

So of all the states to come out of the divsion of the Ottoman empire only Israel is illegal?

Typical zio hasbara nonsense.

The UN resolution wasnt what created Israel, the Arabs rejected the UN proposal and it was never enacted.

Careful, ziopath, your mask is slipping. You are supposed to say the Palestinians rejected the UN proposal not, “the Arabs”.

The UN resolution wasnt what created Israel, the Arabs rejected the UN proposal and it was never enacted. The creation of Israel was the result of a population that had been in land for centuries and a returning diasporia declaring their right to self determination.

More zio habara nonsense from an israel-worshipping ziopath.

Nah, you frum little israel-worshipping ziopath, the “creation of Israel” was the result of a corrupt world power allowing a foreign criminal gang of violent zio colonizers, terrorists and murderers to infiltrate, occupy and ethnically cleanse Palestine while actively denying the indigenous Palestinian population their right to self-determination.

Now if you want to look at a state set up by the victorious powers after WW1 look at the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Where zero Hashemites lived until they were given the land by those powers and whos existance hypocritical anti zionist have no beef with.

Yea, except that unlike your mass-murdering foreign criminal gang of zio infiltrators, who had to holocaust the Palestinians in order to create their illegal zio apartheid regime in Palestine, the “Hashemites” didn’t have to commit genocide in order to create or live in Jordan.

Oh, and you forgot to mention that you israel-worshipping ziopaths also claim Jordan as part of your “Jewish state:

The main danger which Israel, as ‘a Jewish state’, poses to its own people, to other Jews and to its neighbours, is its ideologically motivated pursuit of territorial expansion and the inevitable series
of wars resulting from this aim. The more Israel becomes Jewish or, as one says in Hebrew, the more it ‘returns to Judaism’ (a process which has been under way in Israel at least since 1967), the more its actual politics are guided by Jewish ideological considerations and less by rational ones. My use of the term ‘rational’ does not refer here to a moral evaluation of Israeli policies, or to the supposed defence or security needs of Israel – even less so to the supposed needs of ‘Israeli survival’. I am referring here to Israeli imperial policies based on its presumed interests. However morally bad or politically crass such policies are, I regard the adoption of policies based on ‘Jewish ideology’, in all its different versions as being even worse. The ideological defences of Israeli policies are usually based on Jewish religious beliefs or, in the case of secular Jews, on the ‘historical rights’ of the Jews, which derive from those beliefs and retain the dogmatic character of religious faith.

My own early political conversion from admirer of Ben-Gurion to his dedicated opponent began exactly with such an issue. In 1956 I eagerly swallowed all of Ben-Gurion’s political and military reasons for Israel initiating the Suez War, until he (in spite of being an atheist, proud of his disregard of the commandments of Jewish religion) pronounced in the Knesset on the third day of that war, that the real reason for it is ‘the restoration of the kingdom of David and Solomon’ to its Biblical borders. At this point in his speech, almost every Knesset member spontaneously rose and sang the Israeli national anthem. To my knowledge, no zionist politician has ever repudiated Ben-Gurion’s idea that Israeli policies must be based (within the limits of pragmatic considerations) on the restoration of the Biblical borders as the borders of the Jewish state. Indeed, close analysis of Israeli grand strategies and actual principles of foreign policy, as they are expressed in Hebrew, makes it clear that it is ‘Jewish ideology’, more than any other factor, which determines actual Israeli policies. The disregard of Judaism as it really is and of ‘Jewish ideology’ makes those policies incomprehensible to foreign observers who usually know nothing about Judaism except crude apologetics.

Let me give a more recent illustration of the essential difference which exists between Israeli imperial planning of the most inflated but secular type, and the principles of ‘Jewish ideology’. The latter enjoins that land which was either ruled by any Jewish ruler in ancient times or was promised by God to the Jews, either in the Bible or – what is actually more important politically – according to a rabbinic interpretation of the Bible and the Talmud, should belong to Israel since it is a Jewish state. No doubt, many Jewish ‘doves’ are of the opinion that such conquest should be deferred to a time when Israel will be stronger than it is now, or that there would be, hopefully, ‘a peaceful conquest’, that is, that the Arab rulers or peoples would be ‘persuaded’ to cede the land in question in return for benefits which the Jewish state would then confer on them.

A number of discrepant versions of Biblical borders of the Land of Israel, which rabbinical authorities interpret as ideally belonging to the Jewish state, are in circulation. The most farreaching among them include the following areas within these borders: in the south, all of Sinai and a part of northern Egypt up to the environs of Cairo; in the east, all of Jordan and a large chunk of Saudi Arabia, all of Kuwait and a part of Iraq south of the Euphrates; in the north, all of Lebanon and all of Syria together with a huge part of Turkey (up to lake Van); and in the west, Cyprus. An enormous body of research and learned discussion based on these borders, embodied in atlases, books, articles and more popular forms of propaganda is being published in Israel, often with state subsidies, or other forms of support. Certainly the late Kahane and his followers, as well as influential bodies such as Gush Emunim, not only desire the conquest of those territories by Israel, but regard it as a divinely commanded act, sure to be successful since it will be aided by God. In fact, important Jewish religious figures regard the Israeli refusal to undertake such a holy war, or even worse, the return of Sinai to Egypt, as a national sin which was justly punished by God.One of the more influential Gush Emunim rabbis, Dov Lior, the rabbi of Jewish settlements of Kiryat Arba and of Hebron, stated repeatedly that the Israeli failure to conquer Lebanon in 1982–5 was a well-merited divine punishment for its sin of ‘giving a part of Land of Israel’, namely Sinai, to Egypt.

Although I have chosen an admittedly extreme example of the Biblical borders of the Land of Israel which ‘belong’ to the ‘Jewish state’, those borders are quite popular in national–religious circles.There are less extreme versions of Biblical borders, sometimes also called ‘historical borders’. It should however be emphasised that within Israel and the community of its diaspora Jewish supporters, the validity of the concept of either Biblical borders or historical borders as delineating the borders of land which belongs to Jews by right is not denied on grounds of principle, except by the tiny minority which opposes the concept of a Jewish state. Otherwise, objections to the realisation of such borders by a war are purely pragmatical. One can claim that Israel is now too weak to conquer all the land which ‘belongs’ to the Jews, or that the loss of Jewish lives (but not of Arab lives!) entailed in a war of conquest of such magnitude is more important than the conquest of the land, but in normative Judaism one cannot claim that ‘the Land of Israel’, in whatever borders, does not ‘belong’ to all the Jews. In May 1993, Ariel Sharon formally proposed in the Likud Convention that Israel should adopt the ‘Biblical borders’ concept as its official policy. There were rather few objections to this proposal, either in the Likud or outside it, and all were based on pragmatic grounds. No one even asked Sharon where exactly are the Biblical borders which he was urging that Israel should attain. Let us recall that among those who called themselves Leninists there was no doubt that history follows the principles laid out by Marx and Lenin. It is not only the belief itself, however dogmatic, but the refusal that it should ever be doubted, by thwarting open discussion, which creates a totalitarian cast of mind. Israeli-Jewish society and diaspora Jews who are leading ‘Jewish lives’ and organized in purely Jewish organisations, can be said therefore to have a strong streak of totalitarianism in their character.

However, an Israeli grand strategy, not based on the tenets of ‘Jewish ideology’, but based on purely strategic or imperial considerations had also developed since the inception of the state. An authoritative and lucid description of the principles governing such strategy was given by General (Reserves) Shlomo Gazit, a former Military Intelligence commander. According to Gazit,

Israel’s main task has not changed at all [since the demise of the USSR] and it remains of crucial importance. The geographical location of Israel at the centre of the Arab-Muslim Middle East predestines Israel to be a devoted guardian of stability in all the countries surrounding it. Its [role] is to protect the existing regimes: to prevent or halt the processes of radicalisation, and to block the expansion of fundamentalist religious zealotry.

For this purpose Israel will prevent changes occurring beyond Israel’s borders [which it] will regard as intolerable, to the point of feeling compelled to use all its military power for the sake of their prevention or eradication.

In other words, Israel aims at imposing a hegemony on other Middle Eastern states. Needless to say, according to Gazit, Israel has a benevolent concern for the stability of Arab regimes. In Gazit’s view, by protecting Middle Eastern regimes, Israel performs a vital service for ‘the industrially advanced states, all of which are keenly concerned with guaranteeing the stability in the Middle East’. He argues that without Israel the existing regimes of the region would have collapsed long ago and that they remain in existence only because of Israeli threats. While this view may be hypocritical, one should recall in such contexts La Rochefoucault’s maxim that ‘hypocrisy is the tax which wickedness pays to virtue’. Redemption of the Land is an attempt to evade paying any such a tax.

Needless to say, I also oppose root and branch the Israeli nonideological policies as they are so lucidly and correctly explained by Gazit. At the same time, I recognise that the dangers of the policies of Ben-Gurion or Sharon, motivated by ‘Jewish ideology’, are much worse than merely imperial policies, however criminal. The results of policies of other ideologically motivated regimes point in the same direction. The existence of an important component of Israeli policy, which is based on ‘Jewish ideology’ makes its analysis politically imperative. This ideology is, in turn, based on the attitudes of historic Judaism to non-Jews, one of the main themes of this book. Those attitudes necessarily influence many Jews, consciously or unconsciously. Our task here is to discuss historic Judaism in real terms.

The influence of ‘Jewish ideology’ on many Jews will be stronger the more it is hidden from public discussion. Such discussion will, it is hoped, lead people to take the same attitude towards Jewish chauvinism and the contempt displayed by so many Jews towards non-Jews (which will be documented below) as that commonly taken towards antisemitism and all other forms of xenophobia, chauvinism and racism. It is justly assumed that only the full exposition, not only of antisemitism, but also of its historical roots, can be the basis of struggle against it. Likewise I am assuming that only the full exposition of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism can be the basis of struggle against those phenomena. This is especially true today when, contrary to the situation prevailing fifty or sixty years ago, the political influence of Jewish chauvinism and religious fanaticism is much greater than that of antisemitism. But there is also another important consideration. I strongly believe that antisemitism and Jewish chauvinism can only be fought simultaneously.

Shahak, I. (2008). A Closed Utopia? In Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (New ed., pp. 9-14). London: Pluto Press.

Man you guys are great at making false accusations that you don’t back up.

Man you psychotic little ziopaths are frum little israel-worshippers.

What revisionist history? Name some history that I claimed that was false.
Not only do you lie about the facts but you make false accusation to boot. Wow, I am overwhelmed. Hey are you being funny yet Joker? Maybe you should change your handle to Know Nothing And Not Afraid To Show It.

So true!

Nope that only happened earlier after some Palestinians who had stashed weapons there ran out of the Dome of the Rock with machine guns and shot some Israeli Druze policemen who were outside on the street, and the site was closed for a few days and then gradually reopened.

Actually non Muslims can NOT go into the Dome of the Rock at all.
Those are Islamic Waqf rules.
A pass won’t help you get in Joker. Non Muslims can visit the Temple Mount Compound for a few hours on some days and those days and times are controlled by the Waqf. For someone who claims common knowledge you are woefully ignorant. Or is the joke that you don’t know what you are talking about, and claim what you don’t know is common knowledge, and that’s why you call yourself the The Joker?

http://foodfolksandfun.net/visiting-dome-on-the-rock/

Hear, Hear!!

Shush alex you are supposed to say “zionist first son in law” not jewish. I love when the mask falls and you guys stop making any pretense about who you hate.

Awwwww, did alex hurt your fragile little Zionist feelings, you psychotic little Jew-baiting zio bigot?

Get back to me when you can provide evidence that Israel attacked Jordan first during the ’67 war you dimwit bigot.

Get back to me when you’ve learned to read, ziopath, and can provide evidence that Jordan, which had a defense pact with Egypt, attacked your belligerent Talmud thumping zio war criminals before your belligerent Talmud thumping zio war criminals attacked Egypt.

How does it ” steal more land” or give them more and more money?

By stealing more land from the Palestinians while receiving more and more money and weapons from the US, you toxic little ziopath.