One of the attacks Hillary Clinton deployed against Donald Trump in tonight’s first presidential debate was a callback to the time he wished, aloud on an audiobook, that the American housing market would collapse so that he could profit. Rather than deny it (because it is true), Trump boasted that it was just smart.

In the 2006 audio recording, part of a promotional tape for Trump University, candidate Donald made no attempt to hide his glee at the prospect of a national financial disaster: “I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy.”

Confronted tonight with the fact that he hoped to personally gain by the possibility of millions of Americans losing their homes, Trump responded simply: “That’s called business, by the way.”