
Retired U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove, until recently the supreme commander of NATO forces in Europe, plotted in private to overcome President Barack Obama’s reluctance to escalate military tensions with Russia over the war in Ukraine in 2014, according to apparently hacked emails from Breedlove’s Gmail account that were posted on a new website called DC Leaks.
Obama defied political pressure from hawks in Congress and the military to provide lethal assistance to the Ukrainian government, fearing that doing so would increase the bloodshed and provide Russian President Vladimir Putin with the justification for deeper incursions into the country.
Breedlove, during briefings to Congress, notably contradicted the Obama administration regarding the situation in Ukraine, leading to news stories about conflict between the general and Obama.
But the leaked emails provide an even more dramatic picture of the intense back-channel lobbying for the Obama administration to begin a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine.
In a series of messages in 2014, Breedlove sought meetings with former Secretary of State Colin Powell, asking for advice on how to pressure the Obama administration to take a more aggressive posture toward Russia.
“I may be wrong, … but I do not see this WH really ‘engaged’ by working with Europe/NATO. Frankly I think we are a ‘worry,’ … ie a threat to get the nation drug into a conflict,” Breedlove wrote in an email to Powell, who responded by accepting an invitation to meet and discuss the dilemma. “I seek your counsel on two fronts,” Breedlove continued, “how to frame this opportunity in a time where all eyes are on ISIL all the time, … and two, … how to work this personally with the POTUS.”

Breedlove attempted to influence the administration through several channels, emailing academics and retired military officials, including former NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark, for assistance in building his case for supplying military assistance to Ukrainian forces battling Russian-backed separatists.
“I think POTUS sees us as a threat that must be minimized, … ie do not get me into a war????” Breedlove wrote in an email to Harlan Ullman, senior adviser to the Atlantic Council, describing his ongoing attempt to get Powell to help him influence Obama.

“Given Obama’s instruction to you not to start a war, this may be a tough sell,” Ullman replied a few months later, in another string of emails about Breedlove’s effort to “leverage, cajole, convince or coerce the U.S. to react” to Russia.
Breedlove did not respond to a request for comment. He stepped down from his NATO leadership position in May and retired from service on Friday, July 1. Breedlove was a four-star Air Force general and served as the 17th Supreme Allied Commander of NATO forces in Europe starting on May 10, 2013.
Phillip Karber, an academic who corresponded regularly with Breedlove — providing him with advice and intelligence on the Ukrainian crisis — verified the authenticity of several of the emails in the leaked cache. He also told The Intercept that Breedlove confirmed to him that the general’s Gmail account was hacked and that the incident had been reported to the government.
“The last conversation I had about it with General Breedlove, he said, ‘Yeah, I’ve been hacked several times,’” said Karber. He added that he noticed at least one of his personal emails appearing online from the leak before we had contacted him. “I turned this over to the U.S. government and asked them to investigate. No one has given me any answer.”
“I have no idea whose account was leaked or hacked,” said Powell, when reached for comment about the emails. Powell said he had no comment about the discussions regarding Obama’s response to the conflict in Ukraine.
In the European press, Breedlove has been portrayed as a hawkish figure known for leaning on allied nations to ditch diplomacy and to adopt a more confrontational role again Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine. Breedlove, testifying before Congress earlier in February of this year, called Russia “a long-term existential threat to the United States and to our European allies.”
Der Spiegel reported that Breedlove “stunned” German leaders with a surprise announcement in 2015 claiming that pro-Russian separatists had “upped the ante” in eastern Ukraine with “well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of the most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery” sent to Donbass, a center of the conflict.
Breedlove’s numbers were “significantly higher” than the figures known to NATO intelligence agencies and seemed exaggerated to German officials. The announcement appeared to be a provocation designed to disrupt mediation efforts led by Chancellor Angela Merkel.
In previous instances, German officials believed Breedlove overestimated Russian forces along the border with Ukraine by as many as 20,000 troops and found that the general had falsely claimed that several Russian military assets near the Ukrainian border were part of a special build-up in preparation for a large-scale invasion of the country. In fact, much of the Russian military equipment identified by Breedlove, the Germans said, had been stored there well before the revolution in Ukraine.
The emails, however, depict a desperate search by Breedlove to build his case for escalating the conflict, contacting colleagues and friends for intelligence to illustrate the Russian threat. Karber, who visited Ukrainian politicians and officials in Kiev on several occasions, sent frequent messages to Breedlove — “per your request,” he noted — regarding information he had received about separatist military forces and Russian troop movements. In several updates, Breedlove received military data sourced from Twitter and social media.
Karber, the president of the Potomac Foundation, became the center of a related scandal last year when it was discovered that he had facilitated a meeting during which images of purported Russian forces in Ukraine were distributed to the office of Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and were published by a neoconservative blog. The pictures turned out to be a deception; one supposed picture of Russian tanks in Ukraine was, in fact, an old photograph of Russian tanks in Ossetia during the war with Georgia.
Breedlove stayed in close contact with Karber and other officials who shared his views on the Ukrainian conflict.
“Phil, can’t we get a statement to counteract the Russians on use of force? what can I do to help? If the Ukrainians lose control of the narrative, the Russians will see it as an open door,” wrote retired Gen. Wesley Clark, who forwarded on his messages with Victoria Nuland, the assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs. He also passed along concerns from the Bulgarian president that Bulgaria might be Russia’s next target.
In other messages, Clark relayed specific requests for the types of military aid desired by Ukrainian officials. In addition to radar systems and other forms of military equipment, Clark recommended that Breedlove “encourage Ukraine to hire some first rate pr firms and crisis communications firms in U.S. and Europe.” He added, “They need the right tools to engage in information warfare.”
Ukraine did hire several D.C. lobbying and communication firms to influence policymakers. In June 2015, the government signed a deal with APCO Worldwide, an influential firm with ties to senior Democratic and Republican officials.
In an email in February 2015, Karber told Breedlove that “Pakistan has, under the table, offered Ukraine 500 TOW-II launchers (man-portable version) and 8,000 TOW-II missiles,” adding that deliveries of the anti-tank weapons could begin by the end of the month. “However,” Karber wrote, “Pakistan will not make these deliveries without U.S. approval; moreover they will not even request that approval unless they have informal assurance that it would be approved.”
Karber told The Intercept that the Pakistani arms deal never materialized.
Breedlove was most recently in the news explaining that he now thinks we need to talk to the Russian government to resolve the conflict in Ukraine. “I think we need to begin to have meaningful dialogue,” he said last week, while reiterating his views on the need for a strong NATO to militarily match Russia. “Russia does understand power, and strength, and unity,” he said.
The emails were released by D.C. Leaks, a database run by self-described “hacktivists” who are collecting the communications of elite stakeholders such as political parties, major politicians, political campaigns, and the military. The website currently has documents revealing some internal communications of the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign and George Soros’s Open Society Foundation, among others.
Top photo: Gen. Philip Breedlove.
It’s reading articles like this that cause me to drink two cans of pop after two years without.
It’s articles like this that cause me to drink two cans of pop after two years without.
Russia launched 11 military interventions into its near – abroad in the past 26 years and annexes territory from the Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova, but it’s Breedlove whose the hawk ? Rofl this is great.
Falsifying intelligence, no foul right? Because its Russia and they are evil. Yet I’m confused since Russia was left off the Axis of Evil list, maybe its time to update that list. That way when our kids are getting blown up, shot, and traumatized on the opposite side of plant earth, while our taxes are confiscated and the US dollar is debased to fund a con of a war initiated against a nuclear power based on doctored intelligence, we can comfort ourselves by saying at least we are fighting evil.
@K: Sorry, I’m having problems replying to comments; I think it’s my proxy acting up. Going to try reposting it this time as its own comment. Hopefully you see it:
I have as well, and noticed the same thing. I’ve also read the papers and news sites, which IMHO doesn’t and didn’t get the point across clearly enough (probably because most people who are looking for ‘news’ can’t read Russian or Ukrainian unless they’re from one of the handful or so of countries with Russian as a first or second language). Reading blogs from people in that part of the world is also quite edifying. I also wouldn’t look to Twitter for believable or true news though; the commenting is over the top from all sides there, it seems (no doubt a lot of it paid for by the tweet or somesuch). It’s funny how most English-speakers seem to think that everyone in the world uses the same platforms as them. Reminds me of how many Brazilians and Southern Asians used to use Orkut before it got bought out and phased out (or I think it’s gone now and incorporated into Google Groups or some nonsense like that?).
Noone likes to have their lives decided for them by third parties who want to destroy their lives in the name of money, power, greed or vengeance. In Ukraine’s case, that vengeance may be against Russia (not Ukraine itself) but since when is destroying anything by proxy ethical, morally responsible, or anything other than completely reprehensible?
This country (and some other countries — not to single this one out; the UK and a few of the EU countries (and others) are doing their parts as well) seems to have lost its compass completely. I wouldn’t blame the rest of the world for being afraid to challenge it; I RESPECT and am LOYAL to anyone who is willing to stand up to such egregious breaches of human rights, even if there’s not much I can personally do to make the world better. I do it in my own way every chance I get. It was easier when one’s politics weren’t seen as fit to hang someone by, of course.
Watching the news about that plane downer back in 2014 was a pretty good reminder of how backdoored the entire process is. How else could the Western world get away with not disclosing the findings when that flight got intercepted by a missile?
I used to think those things couldn’t happen here, when I was young — I don’t think any of us are taught those things can happen here as children (certainly not in school), but being back in the US after a handful of years away (returning wasn’t quite the homecoming I expected) has been edifying to say the least. Maybe there are no rules except for those people who don’t know any better (and don’t want to)? The news seems utterly rigged, in any case.
It’s a good thing I’m not a very emotional person or constantly bearing witness to these sorts of grotesque and gross injustices would have me doing something drastic instead of making it my priority to think of reasonable, logical approaches to try to address issues like these. Having hope is important. Without it, all we’ll EVER get is propaganda.
Is this subversion of the U.S. Constitution, or construed as?
George Mason’s words seem appropriate here: “…standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty [and peace]; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.”
The perfect foil for the bloodthirsty idiots in Kyiv. Another bloodthirsty idiot.
Open big mouth. Insert all 12 inches.
Is that a politician in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Hehe.
“Gen. Philip Breedlove” even SOUNDS like a charater from Dr. STRANGELOVE.
NATO cannot beat ISIS-AlQueda-Taliban-AlNusra
NATO families will be raped & murdered as NATO Troops fight far from home.
NATO installations will be sabotaged by Refujihadi Invaders.
NATO Troops should turn their weapons on their ENEMIES that are betraying them.
NATO defeated itself by being invaded and overrun by the REFUJIHADIS from the wars NATO started but can’t FINISH …………. THAT has to be a FIRST in all history.
my god! it seems apparent that this man was begging for confrontation with russia, a nuclear power. in such a confrontation no one wins, very simply put. isnt it ironic that a man like this obviously in need of psychiatric attention could rise so high in the ranks of the military?!
So, the Voentorg would be open only on the pro-Russian side? Wasted opportunity to help already democratic state which is contemporary Ukraine. I can hardly see how TOW-II could be an attack weapon considering circumstances but in defense from the fresh Russian T-72B3 It would come in handy.
I agree with those who pledge for a normal role of a top military leader advising a political master…but it is not really the subject here, in fact he (formeur SACEUR) twisted intelligence to conclude that the Russian may threaten Euro Atlantic security. Not only the German complained about it, lots of other Nations did. In 2003, distorsion of facts lead the Us to invade Iraq, this time it only conducted Nato to reinvest in security, let’s see how Russia will react to the coming Summit in Varsaw.
It is not a military general’s legal place, duty or obligation to attempt to alter civilian direction of military policy or agenda. It is to protect and defend the US Constitution and follow the direction(s) of the elected US President and his appointed Secretary of Defense. The legal way to weigh in on military matters, or influence civilian policy, is by being appointed to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and advance your position or opinion there.
Gen. Breedlove should have known better and should have been sacked immediately.
Karber as informant , that been caught tweeting and posting fake images from 2008 Georgian conflict as proof of Russian military involvement in Ukraine civil war , no wonder some ppl saying we r on the brink of ww3, when rumors and fake spreading loonies being used as main source of information!
I see no wrong here. The general didn’t try to defy the president, only to persuade him to do what the general felt (and I also feel) was sensible and moral. The US made a promise (even though informal) to Ukraine to get them to give up their nukes. If we’re not going to follow through by defending Ukraine against Russian aggression, then we ought to give them their nukes back.
Cause a Nazi state with nukes (Ukraine) is such a great idea!
Wasn’t there also a promise not to expand NATO eastward?
The General tried to suborn others to ‘convince’ (viz lie to) the President – that’s called plotting. He also lied in official communications and contradicted his CinC in public. He attempted to mislead the American public and became a shill for a foreign government.
He should be in prison.
America does not appear realize how much power is available to the Military Industrial Complex and apart from the shredding of constitutional rights by Homeland Security, they pose the greatest threat to our Nation’s freedoms and democratic way of life. The day they determine that their power and control is being undermined will give the word COUP a whole new meaning.
Breedlove may be motivated by different concerns than mere politics. Not long ago, he was more than happy to visit Bob Jones University to promote a chaplain to Colonel. (Bob Jones U. is of the prophetic school where Russia is literally demonized as a threat to the US and Israel.)
https://blogs.bju.edu/pr/2015/10/27/george-youstra-commissioned-as-colonel-in-united-states-air-force-2/
Another unelected warmonger trying to “coerce” elected politicians and leaders into an international confrontation. Glad that he is gone. If i had to guess he will soon lobby for the military-industrial-congressional-media complex, trying to have people killed abroad for money.
This said, on the purpose of NATO: “To keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down.” – Hastings Ismay (first Secretary General of NATO from 1952 to 1957)
MH17. July 2014 after a spate of Russian shootdowns of military aircraft.
Terror murder of 298 people, the Russians should be treated like criminals, ala the Taliban, until the killers are turned over.
Why does the US refuse to release the contents of the black box found on the MH17? Why, if we are so sure the Russians are responsible, do we not present the irrefutable evidence that proves it? John Kerry insists we have the evidence. Why won’t we release it to the world? “Ukrainian fighter jet ‘SHOT DOWN Malaysia Airlines MH17′ say witnesses” http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/663787/Ukrainian-fighter-jet-shot-Russian-crash-MH17-BBC-documentary
This.
Typical. Air Force General officers are always eager to go to war, since they don’t have to actually do any fighting, they just get to use their Billion dollar toys, and let the grunts do the bleeding and dying. And of course they will then go off to work for Raytheon, General Dynamics or Boeing at a fat salary.
Thank you so much for bringing this information out into the open!!
The overriding problem here is that we supposedly have a civilian government where the military takes orders from elected officials. This is the opposite: the military trying to force elected officials to do things.
Very similar to police and prison guard unions that have far too much power and influence over elected officials, military people like Breedlove exert far too much pressure and influence. It’s one thing to voice one’s INFORMED opinion, everyone should be free to do that. But this is undue influence squared and has very negative consequences for our planet and everyone involved, especially the victims of U.S. imperialism.
Also, the General’s use of quotes indicates that he may in fact be a giant cock
Sorry, *”cock”
Reading these emails I am led to wonder about the ‘games’ our leaders play, and the collateral damages they will authorize. I mean, we had Breedlove, but who on the other side of this feud may have actually gotten a proposal implemented? The shoot-down of the Malaysia flight over Ukraine on 7/17/2014 is the horrific example. http://aireform.com/analysis-high-altitude-shoot-downs-in-ukraine-started-just-3-days-before-the-mh17-crash/
Those recorded conversations were heavily edited and everyone with popular sound editing software can check that.
The rebels never shot down anything above 10,000 ft, video of that shot down is available and no missile trail is there. There was a video interview with one of the crew members available also, they were trying to supply their forces encircled near the border. They couldn’t do that from high altitude .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfu4apcgLeU
You are just LYING through your teeth. Why?
Multiple military jets shot down before MH17, and of course the missile launcher easily capable of reaching 22,000 feet and beyond.
Reminds me of General Ripper (Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)
Gen. Jack D. Ripper (Sterling Hayden)? I know, huh?
Other commenters also discussed that similarity and got me thinking how much Petraeus’ scandal was behavior one might expect of Gen. Buck Turgidson (George C. Scott).
Kubrick was a genius at hiding warnings in plain sight.
This is not “Seven Days in May” more influence than takeover. Done all the time behind the curtains of government, where influence is power. This guy was just more “open,” less careful and/or nearing retirement and not giving a damn. Yet art may imitate life and we may one day get the real version of the movie.
Sounds like “Dr. Strangelove”.
This not the first time they tried to sucker Pres. Obama into b.s war. He learned his lesson with the fiasco in Libya and wouldn’t get baited in again. Imagine if these same blood thirty war mongers had there way in Syria? Iraq would’ve certainly have fell and Jordan would be in it’s ISIS’s crosshairs. This outdated crap that America can thugs it’s way into this modern changing Geo-political landscape is such a failed policy, our friends are starting to question our leadership.
General Bredlove* and Dr. Strangelove occasion not relatives?
*Bred – by-Russian – delirium
This general should have been court-martialed and kicked out of the USAF. Hell if I had done anything like that when I was in the military, I would still be in the stockade.
These out of control war freaks need to be put into prison for treason.
Excellent article. The part about hiring the PR firms made my blood boil.
Ps. A grand thank you to whoever is responsible for the hacks. I love me some truth.
I’m no fan of Obama but from this article it is easy to see how he routinely gets boxed in by the lunatics in the military. Breedlove is nothing more than a cowardly blowhard whose unprocessed sexual frustration compels him to pick fights. Let’s hope he’s having a beer in some bar one day and gets his wish. He is an excellent example of a person unwilling to take responsibility for himself.
The ONLY threat to Europe is the continued excessive influence of USA politics, military, banking and big business. I fail to see how Russia is a threat in any possible way:
– Its Financial clout and meddling influence falls well below the US, Saudi and China
– Its Military threat is purely defensively against our own aggression
– Its Political threat is zero
– Its Big Business threat is zero compared to US megacorporations and Chinese mass-production
For me, Russia is an exciting prospect for the development of the region – something the USA is completely against.
As Europe’s Baby Boomer generation finally retires, it is time for the younger people of Europe to look to the fortunes of a united and friendly continent – that includes Asia – and not be fooled by the hateful and murderous schemes of the US Military-Industrial Complex and the corporations and politicians that benefit from its global bullying. America’s strength – its continental isolation and lack of diversity – is also its weakness. It is time for the other 7billion people of the world to tell it to go fuck itself.
Oh shut the fuck up, you paid russian shill
Go the fuck away, you Russophobic moron.
Yeah, what do you think this is, the United States of America, where you can say whatever you want???? Naive little waif. You must conform to what our fearless and patriotic military tells you, support the troops, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
“Rusia is our friend”
Not mine.
Besides, your opinion about ” purely defensively against our own aggression” and political threat being zero is pure delirium
If you don’t understand that the US has been on a relentless campaign to surround, hobble and — hopefully, eventually — dismantle the Russian Federation since the moment the Soviet Union collapsed, you are either woefully or wilfully ignorant. In either case, you aren’t qualified to have an opinion.
Time for a permanent solution for the Breedlove problem. Somebody needs to ‘Michael Hastings’ him…
Personally, a NATO General who uses “drug” for dragged is a greater threat (to literacy) than any Russian tank column. Did this guy flunk out of war college?
Exactly!
Thank you Gen. Philip Breedlove. Your services are no longer needed. NEXT.
The irony of a guy named ‘Breedlove’ going all out to breed war is kinda funny.
You’re about 2 years late on this one. Europe has used the “Breedhate” tag line since NATO got indirectly involved in Ukraine.
I don’t distinguish Democrats and Republicans anymore. It’s become irrelevant.
What is relevant these days is the globalists, nationalists/patriots and the neo-cons. That is the outlook.
The neo-cons are either in their death throes or in a surge. Can’t tell yet. Maybe in a couple of weeks when the Hillary thing becomes clearer.
I don’t think the neocons will go away quietly. The true believers are the kind who would do anything to get back what they lost on their last double-down.
The “globalists,” as you call them are neoliberals. There is no major difference between them and the necons, just as there is no major difference between the Republicans and Democrats (“major” is a more accurate term than “relevant,” because there are relevant differences).
So General Breedlove seeks advisers to act on his behalf with the President and to use their influence to champion his opinion on a matter that he is well versed and knowledgable about ( Supreme NATO Commander) to have the Resident to reconsider his position and the headlines blare conspiracy??????? C’mon , enough with the sensationalist style journalism…..cheap!
Agreed, all I see here is someone trying to do his job by getting his boss to take it more seriously. 100% universal.
General Breedlove COMMUNICATED by email for meetings with influential advisers to act on his behalf in speaking with his commander in chief… I find that far from the fact of these headlines making it look like he was trying to overthrow the government .
I am personally glad to see that our military leaders have a conscious and concern for what’s happening out in the world and would risk upsetting their careers to ask our leaders to look deeper into a situation so they may have more Intel and understanding about. He did his job and asked to be given more consideration in presenting his opinion. I feel the headline misleads in what General Breedlove was trying to achieve.
Comrade Obama was educated as a Red in Moscow USSR 1981-83 and is a true Soviet according to the Russian Academy of Sciences so will never help to stop Russia as he is working for Russia to transform America into a weakened state and he succeeded in wrecking our military. Be ready for May 2017 when snow melts in Russia as Rus/Chinese make their move according to a US Admiral who has access to Russian phone calls via NSA. Nome, Alaska, Baja California, Managua Nicaragua for reserves are the targets.
You need better drugs. I can help — for a price.
Killery and Breedlove are gonna get along just fine. Dr. Strangelove here we come.
Simple solution to all of this bullsh*t!
End foreign entanglements, and make our people truly Independent again. End the Democracy we have here in the US. It is destroying our county. This is why money is involved in Politics in the first place. Democracy is 51% vote to tell the other 49% what to do.
Simple Solution to all of this.
Real Free Market Anarcho-Capatalism.
Have only 2 laws…..
1) don’t aggress against another person or their property.
2) Do all that you say you will do (via Conttacts).
Take the evil manipulation and control out of the equation and leave it to the individual person to make his/her own decisions.
These things are the reason that people can’t have gardens in their front yards. Run a business out of your (own) home, kids can’t have lemonade stands legally anymore. This is an attack on Directly US the people.
All this to protect the people lining these Politicians pockets.
I totally agree with you, buddy. Democracy’s just as you described it – a system wherein 51% of voters tell 49% of voters what to do. That’s more like tyranny than freedom.
Our nation’s Founders established it as a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. A Democracy is far more apt to turn into a dictatorship than is a Constitutional Republic. Just take a look at the US today; it’s as far apart from what the Founders had envisioned than ever. More and more of the Bill of Rights are being destroyed, as all three Branches of the USG are violating the Separation of Powers Clause (the Executive and Judiciary Branches making laws and the Legislative Branch abdicating its responsibility for making laws).
We thought George W. Bush was bad, but Barry Soetoro aka Obama is two times worse, having grabbed more power and issued more Unconstitutional Executive Orders. W was a clown compared to this guy .. and, God knows how horrible Hillary the Hildabeast Clinton will get if she wins the November election and is sworn in come January 20, 2017. During her campaign, she’s already showing her truly evil colors.
everything you just posted was a lie except for the part about bush being bad. the rest is a bunch of ka-ka. you will be on your death bed years from now still spewing that crap about tomorrow president obama is going to take our guns.
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This assertion is a bit strange. During Operation Cyclone – the first 6 years. Anyone the CIA could blame problems, covert ops on or “provocation” they did. Anyone but them needed to look like the bad guy and the fall guy. This is a demonstrable fact of us history when speaking of violence, war or conflict (direct, proxy or indirect). We saw this with Libya. Dems were screaming end the war! Murdering people to show people that murdering people is wrong – IS WRONG! Do you remember what we fire back? “It is not US it is NATO”. The USA controls NATO anyone who disagrees proof or GTFO.
We even saw this Pre-intercept when “Glenn” leaked documents. Everyone blamed someone else. Said “X” went rogue, was dishonorable or knew and didn’t tell others – it was the fault OF “X”! I SWEAR! I actually wrote a lot about this, “Tony Schwartz” – you can google me. Psyop, PSYWAR, Grey/Black propaganda or conflict via Proxy. This is nothing new. If you can do something and make it look like your 4 yr old sisters fault (you are 7) you did it. What is relevant here – this is nothing new to the CIA or “USG”. I assure you it is worth your time….. Before peddling forward, backpedal quite a bit and rethink this bold assertion. The first is who is “vetting” the hack for us? If you understand my point there are now 30 questions we need answered not 20 stores we need to write.
Usually, it is paid propagandists who would paint an American president as a benevolent peacemaker.
Officials from the so-called White House are often described as dumb. They don’t mind it. They shrug it off. Here is why:
In any given situation, in any country they don’t like, US officials work relentlessly behind the scene(s) to achieve:
– maximum instability and chaos
– maximum damage
and for the opposing party they try to create:
– maximum dependence on US institutions, e.g. anything from spying to foodstuff
Placing a country on a slow burner is not an act of kindness. In most situations it is a phase used to weaken and to emasculate the political and economic structure in the country the US doesn’t like.
The same way of thinking and acting is also used by US officials and their lapdogs to target groups and individuals they don’t like, wherever they may be.
It is a mistake to think (not even for a split second) that these people can be loving creatures if they don’t get their way.
Thank you, the other word for this is business as usual, US style. I’ve said it since the ‘012 Olympics, Russia is not the enemy.
Hillary will happily do what neo cons want.
How much KGB and Putin pay for such articles?????
Suppose Russia has no adequate military capability, do you know what would happen?
The US will find channels to send the all the necessary equipment (including anti-US printed propaganda) in order to turn them into a credible threat that needs to be countered.
If this general wants to help Ukraine to eject the Russian occupiers – that’s really great. Ukraine welcomes this. Ukraine needs military help to expel Putin out of Donbas. Ukrainians are grateful for American help against fascists Putin, Zhirinovsky and Dugin.
As an American, I don’t care if Putin is in Donbas or not. I do care that the United States spends more on the military than the next 8 nations combined, while we’re the only industrialized country in the world that doesn’t provide it’s citizens with healthcare, I do care that our infrastructure is crumbling, I do care that we don’t provide adequate assistance to the poor.
If this general wants to help Ukraine, then he can do it on his own dime. If he wants to enlist in the Ukrainian military or donate all of his money to Kiev, then he can have at it, but the United States has better things to spend its money on than a conflict between Ukraine and Russia that is none of our business.
Well, Luckyjohn, we would be very happy to eject this fat f*ck General from the U.S. and send him to Kiev to join the neo-nazis Svboda and Right Sector. Please send him to the front lines. By the way, I like how its okay for opposition groups to violently overthrow an elected government in Kiev; just goes to show how a$$ backwards that nation still is. At least for the people in Crimea, they voted overwhelmingly to secede from corrupt Kiev and become part of Russia again. Have fun with the General. We’ll make sure Victoria sends him cookies in box packages at the front lines.
Ukraine is now in the hands of proud fascists who brag about how they helped Adolf Hitler track down and slaughter Jews and socialists during WWII. They came to power through a coup sponsored by the U.S., the EU and NATO. I find it appalling that anyone doesn’t know that and also that anyone could think it is a good thing.
“I turned this over to the U.S. government and asked them to investigate. No one has given me any answer.”
You mean the same government whose elected leader you were trying to undermine?
perfect examples of why NO ONE in this world can trust these WAR CRIMINAL Armies’ Leaders to tell ANYONE the TRUTH about what is actually going on. no one can believe any of them on their word. it is no different than when we were full out LIED to by the Bush White House, and went headlong into war because of it. hawks are heading for the White House again. been warning you of this for months now. wake up nation. we cannot trust HAWKS whether they call themselves Republicans or Democrats. when their first response is to go out and kill, they cannot be trusted to stop and consider all other options first. killing is the easy way out.
Omg. Are you saying he was sending work emails on non defence Dept servers? How come this is not part of the story?
This is why “War should never be left up to the Generals” makes sense. Since they no long are on horseback at the front of the charge with sword drawn pointing the way, they see war as their way to fame. Without war, Patton would have been a footnote in history.
this guy should be charged with treason
Given the fact that most of the military and intelligence communities swore to uphold and protect *the constitution* (not ‘the government’) when in fact they’re protecting the latter at all cost and destroying the former instead) I’d say that a LOT of them should be charged with treason. I think they’ve forgotten their duty is to the Constitution (and that rights should extend to ALL people, not just people that are American — after all, if we REALLY want to be leaders, we should be leading by POSITIVE examples). Rights shouldn’t just be rights because someone declares you worthy of them.
All I can say is we need a whole lot more hacktivists, leakers and whistleblowers. The corruption and insanity in the US government and related organs today needs a lot of sunshine ( and a good dose of bleach ) even if the average citizen I encounter still has blinders on as to the depth and breadth of the moral and ethical cesspool we call The United States.
2″Well, this report got me thinking of Col. Jack D. Ripper in “Dr. Strangelove.” They’re both war loving paranoiacs….
This makes this guy a war criminal who should be charged and convicted.
Bindas
With all due respect, conflict with Russia is stupidity. How about negotiation. In exchange for immediate removal of all sanctions, Russia joins forces with us to wipe out ISIS. Additionally, assad has to step down in 1 year. Ukraine and Russia must sign a peace treaty in which Ukraine promises not to join Nato and allows Russia a military base in Ukraine and access to the base and the black Sea. The US will remove the new missile systems from former east block countries and Russia will stop providing nuclear technology to iran.
You just had Russia give 5 things they really care about while Russia only receives 1 thing they kinda care about and one thing they really care about. Something tells me your deal is a little unworkable.
How about the US join the rest of the world and stop colonizing the majority of other countries with their military bases — or holding elections in those countries and letting the WORLD decide if they want the US to have bases in those countries?
But of course the US is exceptionalist, as always — it’s just not exceptional (sorry … do I get to say this as a card-carrying American still, or is that going to get me executed as well?)
I’m sure Gen. Breedlove was just trying to protect, preserve and replenish our precious bodily fluids.
watch out.
hillary clinton and diane feinstein
together again
hell hath no fury
like a couple of lovewarbugs from hell
That is a scary nightmarish thought!
Give a man a hammer and everything’s a nail.
From that pic he reminds me of the Vincent D’Onofrio character in Jurassic World.
Reminds me of Gordon Tall, from James Jones’ The Thin Red Line, played brilliantly by Nick Nolte in the movie. He just wants to have his own little war, and nobody understands him. Everybody else had theirs. Why can’t he just have his? What’s all this debate about?
Well, this report got me thinking of Col. Jack D. Ripper in “Dr. Strangelove.” They’re both war loving paranoiacs.
Reminds me of the General (who’s name escapes me) in the early years of the GWOT who said “our God is bigger than your God”?
*who, in turn, reminded me of Slim Pickins riding the Bomb down in “Dr. Strangelove” … yee hah.
Breedlove? That ain’t a Kraut name, is it?
> He changed it when he became a citizen. It used to be Rasseliebe.
Same old. Our Air Force generals are still illiterate nuts. Our top brass don’t comprehend email security. Our psychopaths still seek a wild frontier where they can kill as many people as possible.
Sad thing is, most Americans will probably never know this and don’t care. They trust their guys in uniform to do the right thing.
Meanwhile, the view from North Korea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUu7DhL86Js. Happy Fourth of July, everybody ;-)!
Your headline is *highly* misleading. The e-mails show no “plotting” whatsoever. They do show a military leader trying to get advice and assistance in how to convince President Obama that getting more involved in the Ukrainian conflict is a good idea. You really need to correct this.
Sounds very ‘lamb’-ish to me (cf. the latest Peter-Maass piece).
But let’s summarize what this implies :
– The Wikileaks ‘cablegate’ occurred in November 2010.
– Snowden made his first “revelations” (Edward 1:1) in June 2013.
As a result, the entire intelligence establishment promised to make their internal intel stream watertight. Yet, in September 2014, NATO’s general commander sent a series of highly sensitive, potentially subversive, and even treasonous, e-mails to some key figures within Washington’s MilInd complex THROUGH GMAIL (FGS !), from an address containing his full name, for all Google staffers and foreign intelligence agencies to see, and all his contacts (including another general and a former DefSec) replied through the same channel ?!
Is this dangerously surreal incompetence, CoIntelPro revisited on an international scale, a gullibility test, or a private joke ?…
“Plotting”? Or “trying to make one’s case”? If he was going to Congress and to the heads of the NATO civilian leaders of the alliance to contrive a military action against Russia re Ukraine, that would be “plotting.” However, Breedlove seems to be acting within his parameters as the head of NATO. I mean what kind of plotting involves academics and Colin Powell? He maybe over reacting, but is that really “plotting,” given the negative use of that word? Why isn’t it gathering info and arguments to “lobby” the POTUS?
No he was actively plotting to escalate the conflict in Ukraine.
Why? Because Breedlove’s ‘info gathering’ consisted of regurgitating what the Ukrainians were telling him, which to anyone familiar with the issue, knows was consistently misleading, if not outright crap.
Looks to me like Breedlove might have ‘drug’ out too many hallucinogenic drugs from the dispensary. Our best and brightest.
Very ignorant and irrelevant comment about hallucinogenic drugs.
I agree, but can I just say he looks remarkably like a sweaty cokehead. Like Bush junior was in his youth.
From having actually observed them in the wild.
Unless it was just years of way too much strong coffee and Danish pastry ;)
There IS no case to be made. Crimea’s analog is secession of Yugoslav’s republics in ’91 and Donbas’s analog is Kosovo, with even more civilian casualties and refugees under its belt.
Breedlove is bananas, but he’s certainly not without company.
Well, he certainly wasn’t “plotting against Obama” as the headline says. As usual, the media is willing to bend or break the truth to get page clicks and bring in more advertising dollars.
There are no “advertising dollars” at The Intercept.
“Gathering info and arguments” which include photos depicted to be something they are not? “Gathering info and arguments” which include overestimation of troops by 20,000?
You don’t see how working through and with Colin Powell, he of the infamous lie filled address to the United Nations in order to ram through the march to the devastation of Iraq could be considered as plotting?
He obviously knew he was seriously out of line or wouldn’t have stepped down. I would say misinformation about troop numbers amounts to a plot to deceive.
agree.
How about the admirals who want to provoke a conflict in the China Sea? pretty much the same thing. Hopefully Obama can outflank them.
The general uses “drug” as the past tense of the verb “to drag.” Apparently grade school level literacy is not a requirement for U.S. Air Force generals. A pity. Wars have been launched over matters of miscommunication.
Seriously, this reminds me of the film ‘Seven Days in May’. Thus far, they have stopped short of calling the President a “criminally ill weak sister” but look out if the JCS ever gets a sufficiently charismatic Chairman who can reach the people.
my first thought!
i opted for some afterthoughts but Seven Days in May stick.
and still stick.
nice to see you bring it up
So there’s a lot of outrage over Hillary Clinton’s use of a secure private server, but no one bats an eyelash when four star generals are using Gmail to casually discuss secret information?
If people care so much about Clinton’s email, why aren’t they calling for reforms to *all* use of non-government email? It’s probably more common in government than people realize.
This is an incredibly distressing read. Advertorials…what a great perversion of the trust and duty conferred and enshrined within the Constitution’s First Amendment. A free press for a free people. Confidence in the press is no greater than the people they profess to hold straight. Hubris, arrogance, the incestuous notion of ineffable infallibility have serve to bend and obscure the light of truth to the favor of any agenda which produces a revenue stream…”citizens’ journalist” often gets us closer to the truth, but we can never lose sight of the segmentation, the lanes, the inherent biases of all sources. I suppose the salient question would be, whose selling and whose buying.
Thank you Mr. Fang.
I’m amazed I’m still alive. These nutty Generals will continue rattling their sabers until WWIII starts and we don’t have to wait until Climate change does us in. Over What? Crimea? That was a legitimate move by Russia. Eastern Ukraine; only an idiot does not realize that these people want to be more with Russia than the Ukrainian Oligarchs. Turkey needs to let it’s Kurds go; how dare they keep people against their will by military force. People all over the world want to be a part of their own nations; not what was foisted on them by colonialism or military force. Yankee go home; you cause more problems in the world than everyone else put together. The Scots, The Basques and so many more want to be free—let them!
Great first sentence!!! C’mon give The End some time. From what I can gather there is a growing belief among the neocon foreign policy establishment that a nuclear war is winnable. It is based from what I can tell on the belief that the US has a superior technology advantage in first strike. Problem is, only a few H-bombs are needed to get through and destroy even a big country like the US.
I think it’s fallout from Chernobyl. People look at the nature park around the reactor and think cancer, schmancer. Your parents smoked cigarettes – maybe your generation gets to play in fallout as compensation.
Good point.
Warmonger extraordinaire!
BTW, the Scots and Brits and Greeks can have referendums but Crimea and Donetsk and Luhansk cannot? The exceptional elite must give their blessing I suppose. These double standards are maddening.
I agree with you that any people who have had their status imposed on them through colonialism and/or militarism should be eligible to vote for and declare their independence. In the case of Ukraine, because there was a violent coup, the referendum was totally legitimate. The far right rejected the reasonable compromise Yanukovych worked out with them. They wanted WAR with Russia. Crimea’s vote was entirely legitimate. If Russia had not acted swiftly, NATO would be in Sevastopol right now. Even today, if the eastern oblasts were allowed a peaceful (free from intimidation) referendum, most would vote to leave Ukraine. I recall Poroshenko’s speech where he said, “Our children will be attending school while theirs hide in basements!” That’s when I stopped calling myself Ukrainian. It’s a made up ethnicity anyway.
When the commander turns out to be a new world order idealist, someone withcommon sense has to seek advice from real professionals…hope secretary Powell was helpful…
Very interesting and relevant. NATO should be dismantled fast. It’s out of control of the citizens it claim to protect.
The new EU members have been claiming it has a enemy in Russia very relentless. Something wrong over there, it hasn’t changed with Breedlove replaced. My conclusion on expectations is that Obama will be missed as president USA, for a long time
This POS General should be relieved of his cushy Position and sent packing because of Insurbordination. Could any one imagine the Ramification if the President has been unable to do what he did to spare us of yet another WAR? These are the type of douche Bag Generals that do not belong in the War Fronts.
Obama had no business approving what has already occurred in Ukraine, and that he isn’t a hysterical nitwit doesn’t mean he’s not been risking war.
“For the first time since the Reagan years, the US is threatening to take the world to war. With eastern Europe and the Balkans now military outposts of Nato, the last ‘buffer state’ bordering Russia – Ukraine – is being torn apart by fascist forces unleashed by the US and the EU. We in the west are now backing neo-Nazis in a country where Ukrainian Nazis backed Hitler.”
“Like the ruins of Iraq and Afghanistan, Ukraine has been turned into a CIA theme park – run personally by CIA director John Brennan in Kiev, with dozens of ‘special units’ from the CIA and FBI setting up a ‘security structure’ that oversees savage attacks on those who opposed the February coup.”
John Pilger: In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia (May 13 2014)
As a Ukrainian, I’m tired of this “Americans and Ukrainian Nazis overthrown legitimate president, Russia did nothing wrong annexing part of other country territory” bullshit. Bad thing (for us, Ukrainians) Americans distanced themeselves from the conflict, but Russia keeps telling their population and naive anti-globalist Westerners about wide American involvment in Ukraine.
@Alex
I’ve spoken to Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine, and they are pretty pro-Russia. How is it that you get to decide for them?
As you’re tired, go back to sleep if you must.
The US involvement in Ukraine has been despicable, independent of the Russians’ behavior.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Not only was the U.S. and NATO involved in the coup, the U.S. was caught on tape choosing who would replace the deposed president.
So does anyone else find it strange that the “general” was discussing top secret military strategy on his GMAIL ACCOUNT? Where is the Republican outrage? Where is Trey Gowdy? Where is the scandal of security breach? Crickets.
His surname should have been Stranglelove. “My Furher! I can walk!” But to be serious, along with this dissent letter from those 51 hawkish mid-level career officials at the Department of State, Victoria Nuland meddling in the coup d’etat at Maidan Square, this amounts to almost an insurrection within State and NATO. Now Gen. Breedlove is backtracking with the leaks of these emails. He ought to take a refresher course in the reading of the Constitution. President Obama is invested as commander in chief as the supreme leader of the military and those “dissenters” at State. Very disturbing, to say the least, and even more so that Hillary Clinton, a super hawk as she demonstrated in her interview with Jeffrey Goldberg, another hawk, published a few months back in The Atlantic. And of course, Goldberg undercut Obama’s historical legacy in another interview he has with him also published in the The Atlantic. I served in the military, did a tour of duty as a medical corpsman in Vietnam, and the brass all had this bellicose bravado and Orwellian groupthink to use the military only as a blunt instrument in foreign policy. Thankfully, Obama stood his ground and refused to involve us in yet another conflict. The real “existential threat” is Gen. Breedlove.
“… Hillary Clinton, a super hawk as she demonstrated in her interview with Jeffrey Goldberg, another hawk, …”
is drooling over the prospect of warbirds named “breed love” dropping bombs in orgasmic explosions heard around the globe in stereoscopic thunder as she dildos to a climatic resolution…
Any effort by a senior U.S. general to undercut presidential policy is an enormous breach of the chain of command. Clever lawyers — of which Washington has several hundred — can easily justify this or anything else. All one needs to know is what the meaning of “is,” is.
I think this is a far more serious matter than most of correspondents below seem to think. Breedlove, retired or not, was/is a dangerous mediocre military hack in the same class with former chief of staff of the U.S. Air Force, Gen. Meyers (?), Gen. Wesley Clark, former chief of staff Admiral Michael Mullen and dozens more political generals. Is it possible for an officer of integrity to reach the top levels of command now? Doesn’t look like it.
Bravo.
This is treason isn’t it?
I really don’t see a devious plot against the president. More of a general seeking help messaging his point of view.
Clearly, he should be tried for treason and if found guilty either remain in prison or face capital punishment.
Those emails are very interesting reading, if a bit difficult to access; use this in Google for 33 emails:
site:dcleaks.com Breedlove NATO
The PR push to get that NATO funding agenda across was also seen here, at the same time the email flurry occurred:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-harlan-k-ullman/lead-mr-obama-please-lead_b_6645346.html
This is merely continuation of the disastrous regime change policy whose results are evident in Syria and Libya today, which has flooded Europe with refugees in the name of controlling Syria (and its oil pipelines, which could service Iran – or Qatar). Enough is enough; these games must end.
The U.S. taxpayer currently accounts for 73% of NATO’s overall expenditures, which total a whopping average of $900 billion a year (while only accounting for 22% of NATO’s direct budget). That means that every year, the U.S. taxpayer dumps some $650 billion dollars on NATO.
Let’s say this is reduced to $150 billion dollars – that would free up $500 billion; an average of $10 billion per state. So if we want to rebuild infrastructure in each state, that’s where the money has to come from.
Incidentally, this is why Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy prescription is such a disaster and makes all her claims about domestic policy seems like so much nonsense – without getting out of NATO, she’ll have no money to take on any domestic issue, not infrastructure, not jobs, not public education, and not health care. She’ll just keep pouring it down the gullet of the military-industrial complex. Burp!
Consider this from an email:
Yes – and having succeeded, it should have been dissolved, as the Warsaw Pact was. That’s the argument for pulling out of NATO; it’s a leftover Cold War dinosaur that really should have been dissolved at the same time the Warsaw Pact was; at the very least it should become a strictly Europe-financed organization, not something the US taxpayer has to prop up.
At times, i tend to be practical in the FEASIBILITY of efforts. Take for instance your numbers of … every year, the U.S. taxpayer dumps some $650 billion dollars on NATO.
one moment while i pick myself up off the floor. Can i refuse to file federal income tax on the basis that I AM INCAPAPBLE OF FOOTING MY SHARE OF A BILL THAT WOULD HAVE ME BANKRUPT!?
Democrats have been saying this since forever.
Funding NATO is vastly cheaper than funding a war in Eastern Europe. Without NATO, Putin faces no deterrent to implementing his dream of rebuilding the Soviet Union.
Paranoid Cold War fantasy line; as if Russia is going to send the tanks into eastern Europe. . . who honestly believes that? It’s just NATO trying to justify its existence, when it should have been dissolved years ago.
Differences between decision makers can always be protrayed as betrayal but are not always betrayal. The real problem is scope. The US congress refuses to do their job and then critisises the President for picking up the slack. This dereliction of duty ans wholesale negligence cascades thruout the system. Everything starts turning gray then turns to mud and predictably the mud fights begin. The powers that were previously contained are now up for grabs. Other people see this as going to hell in a handbasket.
“Congress refuses to do their job.”
We most certainly agree on this point. Congress should never be a rubber stamp to presidential authority and should act quickly when he/she over steps their boundaries.
Congress has yet to realize that any sitting president is a politician at the end of their career. They should not feel obliged to go along if it’s not in the best interest of their constituents.
This leaves the progressive left with little choice by to support House Republican Paul Ryan’s program to roll back executive privilege and restore Congress’ eroded powers:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/16/house-republicans-lay-out-proposals-to-rein-in-presidential-power/
For the left, it is a political tradeoff; for example the progressive left wants immigrants to be given citizenship, not deported back to Mexico; so the recent Supreme Court decision was a defeat for that agenda – but there was a silver lining, in that it was an action by the Court to restrict executive authority. (And notice, the next president could have simply reversed the policy).
Restoration of American democracy is going to have to include getting rid of all of the additional executive privileges of the president that have accumulated since 9/11. Doing this now is particularly important, when the two candidates for President are both disasters-in-waiting.
amazing refs. i would feel shamed if i had enuf time to glean the resources you had. it aint osmosis.
Restoration of American democracy… maybe congress is just lounging around doing the real party hardy politicking and waiting to pounce for more serious presidential powers when they feel their time is ripe.
lol… and choking…
if they can get the courage to vote
Can you say traitor?
I hate hackers and ‘leaks’. And for me ‘whistleblowers’ are traitors. General **** Breedlove’s emails are his and the addressees’. No one elses. If he had concerns about Ukraine, it was up to him and him alone this to discuss with his addressees. Damn hackers and whistleblowers.
Interesting that all this emailing back and forth is going on using Googles Gmail.
Also interesting is that Google search is partially blocking the dcleaks.com site from its results; one has to use a specific ( site:dcleaks.com ) search to get results.
great ref
a solution to the google blinders will emerge this year
sort of a revolution in searcinality
So Gen. Breedlove used his g-mail account to conduct sensitive military business, all of which was hacked, as he said, several times. I saw the clown filmed during an official to Kiev handing out commemorative tokens to hospitalized Ukrainian soldiers (or perhaps private militia men), at least one of whom seemed to be tattooed with a swastika.
Military Industrial Complex doesn’t make any money if we’re not at war with someone in perpetuity.
That wasn’t very nice of the General. Always civilian over military, even if the civilian is an idiot.
“Always civilian over military, even if the civilian is an idiot.”
Fortunately, in this case, the civilian isn’t.
Email leak? What? Was this on a Government or private server?
Hmmmm. Looks like any one on any server may be subject to hacking and leaked info that may be classified or even treasonous such as this. No advantage one way or the other.
Obama saved us from these neocon maniacs, but we all know HRC and her girl Nuland would have put up zero resistance. Accordingly, Trump might choose Newt, which means being pimped by Adelson and the same neocons who believe a limited nuclear war is inevitable. We have a treasonous fifth column .
Probably neolibcon propaganda.
Why would Trump choose Gingrich?He’s another idiot.
Divide and conquer.
This is exactly why we have a civilian in charge of the military. The generals hold the hammer and everyone looks like a nail.
It’s also why starting wars is supposed to require the approval of Congress.
this guy sounds like Dr. Strangelove. Or General Scott from Seven Days In May.
NATO – North American Terrorist Organization is a useless US proxy used to inflate false fears of Russian aggression and appease the industrial military complex. Russia would crush NATO, and hopefully armchair chickenhawks like Breedlove who lie, and fabricate with reckless abandon. Obama has also been useless, but not completely devoid of a rational compass. Thankfully!
One of the best pieces of advice I received when working for a previous White House was “never put anything in an email that you wouldn’t want to see on the front page of the Washington Post”
I suppose I’m glad, ex-White House staff are reading The Intercept. I can only hope current WH staff are reading it also. Lord knows they need some perspective.
Thats most likely why a trending number of high-level cabinet officials are opting for private servers: plausible deniability.
Thank PresObama on this one– yes, we do not need to be a worry, a nation drug(dragged) into a conflict! Hell, is that all we are good for? No disrespect here, General, but we have not won anything in a long time and this is probably why. Guys like you need to die on the feont lines!
Or just retire. That’d be win-win. Besides, what exactly is the front line of a drone war?
I’m not sure if reaching out for advice on how to convince the POTUS to change his mind is the same as plotting against him.
this traitorous rat needs to be thrown in jail as an example of what we will not tolerate from our military.
It’s terrifying to see this level of paranoia at the highest level of the military and government. The really scary thing is that Hillary is twice the warmonger, and not half as clever as Obama, and it’d be easy for someone like Breedlove to dupe her into a war with Russia. The patients are truly running the asylum.
For awhile now, we have coerced “our friends’ who border Russia to allow us to build missile sites directly pointed towards Russia or, more appropriately Moscow. Recently Obama, the assacination ruler of the u.s. gave Viet Nam access to similar war products. Looking further into the area, we have done pretty much the same thing with “our friends” on the perimeter of China. American hegemony at it’s finest.
I don’t know that this stuff reaches plot-level, but it sure highlights the need to retain strict civilian control of the military–if there still is such a thing.
Powell was engaging in a conspiracy. It wasn’t his first. I am myself very allergic to any civilian role after retirement, but I do engage in the precast concrete wall business and I’m looking forward to the greasers funding my operations next year. I will chuck Powell also over the wall if that be the consensus here. Those folks down south need some really bad advise.
To say “Powell was engaging in a conspiracy” is a mischaracterization of Powell’s role. Other than agreeing to a meeting to hear out Breedlove’s concerns, this article didn’t indicate that Powell in anyway undermined the POTUS, America, or was agitating for a war.
Well, he was in the business of doing so, and people close to him would have known him thus. In any case, keeping quite puts him in the same brigade.
quiet *
There is, … the US President. The President CANNOT be active military and HAS TO BE A CIVILIAN.
Read article 2 of the constitution.
OR
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_control_of_the_military)
Plot Level?! It’s already been done. Dr. Strangelove!
The point about my plot comment is simply to say that a plot really isn’t necessary for a ton of this stuff, anymore. If Breedlove is involved in a plot, it’s an open one in which he’s enlisting the opinions of known Republicans! He has a digital trail a mile long, though, and I think it’s pretty much reveals a one man plot.
I don’t agree with what the guy’s doing, for crying out loud. I’d give him the major beat down he deserves if I was in a position to do so. Truman smoked MacArthur’s butt for doing essentially the same thing, so it’s been done. One just has to be ticked off enough to take action against these rogue military guys, especially when they connive openly. They beg for it–they should get it.
There is quite a bit of context missing here. Lots of good information that was not available elsewhere appeared on social media too during the period in question, and was indeed verifed as accurate. The General had a ground level view overall, Obama did not. It is his job to communicate and advocate the seriousness of what he sees, as he sees it.
This is not about hawks and doves, but reality. This is not about escalation, but stopping a threat that was continuing to advance because they had little to stop them. This was not about winning anything, but making the price of further advances hurt.
Obama lucked out on this so far–there was no guarantee Ukraine could have done what they did. Indeed, the odds were greatly against them. And now it’s a stalemate and lots of innocent people on both sides continue to suffer. This too will not hold indefinately. Minsk continues to be a farce, but Obama seems more interested in his legacy than in doing what he claims is the right thing elsewhere, except when it’s Russia?
The aggression was from the government. The insurgents only ever wanted federalism, like in the US. Only a corrupt central gov would reject federalism. We’ve since learned the US puppets in Ukraine are so corrupt that Europe may pull the bailout.
Yes, President Obama seems to have pretty much “lucked out” quite a bit during his two terms employing diplomacy over starting new wars. One could only wish the Bush Administration had been so “lucky”. The fact is that Robert Gates said he, too, disagreed often with President Obama but admitted President Obama more often than not made the right call. It was Obama, after all, who defied consensus and went into Pakistan to kill Bin Laden. And it was Obama who pushed getting China and Russia onboard with sanctions in order to drive Iran to the negotiating table, ultimately ending in a pact. So , yeah, President Obama “lucked out” probably because he’s a lot smarter and deliberative than the shoot from the hip crowd wedded heavily to feeding the military industrial complex over the best interest of the country. We know where Breedlove’s exaggerations and hyperbole would have taken us in a McCain or Romney Adminstration . We saw that in action during Bush/Cheney.
Social media is not a credible source, on the contrary. When were those 1000 military vehicles etc … verified as accurate? The general’s job is to execute government policy, not to push Toria’s agenda.
It is about hawks pushing Rove’s ‘creating realities’. It is about escalation, provoking threats where there aren’t any. People are still waiting on Sam Power’s break-up of the numbers of civilian casualties on each side of the conflict. It will show that one side suffers more than the other.
The intercept is exposing the globalists, one article at a time
How do you make anything of this? The guy was just trying to push a point of view. He seemed genuinely bound by the restrictions placed on him, though he chafed at them. The question of whether to provide arms to Ukraine wasn’t by any means an easy one – after all, it’s a hell of a lot more morally justifiable than arming the Saudis!
To me though, the bottom line is that nothing has been won in Ukraine by war. The Russians took almost all the land they got strictly by First Earth Battalion tactics, sending “tourists” in to win by standing here and there, holding an occasional demonstration or referendum. The fighting just solidified the positions. If Ukraine is to win the land back, they need to use elevated tactics of their own – clean up corruption, provide a reliable independent judiciary that guards expansive civil liberties, and get the economy moving to the point where people no longer look to Russia as a way to have higher wages. Once they have something put together worth fighting for, then they can send their own ‘psychic soldiers’ into the disputed zone and take it over as abruptly and mysteriously as the Russians did.
“…after all, it’s a hell of a lot more morally justifiable than arming the Saudis” or arming Israel as they commit genocide and arrogantly attack our politicians when they question them. Its time that we sever the ME umbilical cord and reclaim our taxes dollars by investing them in America and Americans.
The Ukrainians have never been allies of the US,in fact they’ve always leaned Russia,until our misadventures there lately.
Arming either,both and all the rest is stupid policy,as it always bites USA in the ass,but of course quite lucrative to the remains of our manufacturers, which is mostly weaponry because they sold all the plowshares overseas.
You have an agenda of course.
Most Americans have no animus for either Ukraine or Russia,its all neolibcon historical enmity that drives this shite and military knuckleheads who’ll never make the history books(no victories to report,only defeat),because hopefully this nonsense will end soon,and only Trump can make it happen.
‘after all, it’s a hell of a lot more morally justifiable than arming the Saudis!’
How so ?
Because the Russians don’t have, never had, freedom of religion. And freedom of speech isn’t looking so hopeful there either. And because Putin’s idea of a good time seems to involve gays getting beaten up and/or arrested. And because Ukraine deserves a chance. Now I’m not necessarily saying drown them in powerful weapons that could go who knows where, but if somebody wants to give them stuff that wouldn’t stand out at an ISIS armory, what’s the harm? It’s up to them whether and how to use it.
This is top notch journalism. This exactly the type of reporting we will need more of as either Trump or Hillary enters the White House. I know the Obama administration has made mistakes in their foreign policy decisions and actions (esp. Lybia and drone warfare). Yet he has shown leadership in his reluctance to start a proxy war with Russia. He also stopped Israel from dragging us into a war with Iran. Unfortunately the Neocons and Zionists that have been pushing the hardest for warfare and the confiscation of civil rights of Americans are coming back with vengeance in 2017. With a president in the White House that will give them a blank check on their destructive policies, we can only hope that enough American’s are engaged and active in politics to resist more disastrous policies, esp. war with Russia.
Listen up all government employees.
This leak is designed to chill dissent from government employees (like Breedlove).
There is only one way to fight back. Use encryption, encrypted email, and Wikileaks to safely leak any plans (like the one in this article) to chill speech between government employees.
“DC Leaks” is a government website.
If you’re reading this now and you know of ANY government plan to chill speech among U.S. citizens, you can safely leak that material. Be specific, and name the names you know of.
Love,
R.
I love how Breedlove sourced military intelligence through the same avenues my whacked out aunt uses, Facebook. I guess the Pentagon isn’t immune to taking FB and Twitter memes as fact. What a world we live in.
It’s important that the Commander-in-Chief and his top general are well matched. There’s no profit in harnessing a warhorse and a lame donkey side by side to plow the world. Command lines run more smoothly if both are soul mates, both at the same time warmongers, or warriors reluctant, or peacemakers. That way one side or the other will not be so preoccupied in rallying allies for turning the other’s policy goals upside down. Look at the hours wasted by Breedlove to pull the White House closer to the Pentagon. And doing so on the internet. Are there no quiet parking garages available in DC for a chat at 0200 hours?
Maybe Hillary will pull Breedlove––what’s in a name?––out of retirement; they’ll make such a formidable team.
I am glad the Paki deal did not finally materialize.
On the whole, Pakis have forced us to commit a lot of sins by their deceit. Most of the prisoners in Guantanamo who were certified by Pakis to be deadly terrorists were actually innocent Muslim pilgrims and street vegetable vendors. We spent a lot of time water-boarding them and making them tell lies, which are both sins according to all forms and shades of religions.
We should have sent Breedlove to cohabit with the Pakis. Mistake, mistake ….
Obomba and his hell bitch initiated this conflict by supporting the coup against the legitimate govt of Ukraine.
This is obviously putting lipstick on the pigs,and yes Breedlove sucks too.
USA itself is a result of the coup against legitimate govt of UK ;)
USA itself is a result of the coup against the legitimate govt of UK
Apart from the EU, NATO is the most dangerous organization in Western Europe.
Chilling. One has to wonder how many other such maniacs the US employs in the Pentagon, in the military, in the CIA, in the NSA, in the State Department, and in the White House. The UK’s Foreign Minister, Phillip Hammond, one constantly afflicted by putinoid conspiracy theories, might deservedly be nominated as a British counterpart.
“Maniacs” would describe most of the members of those groups. The types of people who want to join the military, CIA, NSA, police, etc. are the worst society has to offer. These people are violent immoral thugs, not heroes, or warriors in the true sense of the word.
Ever since Nov22,1963 no president has been completely in charge of policy in US. There are all kinds of ‘tricks’ that can be used to manipulate/distort/undermine a president.
I feel for Obama. He has had so many forces working against him.
On another note, The Intercept is doing a great job with these hard hitting investigative pieces.
What a howl! Breedlove writes to Powell, a 2 time unprosecuted war criminal (My Lai coverup and Iraq War).
This is the problem. BLM folks define success as seeing a white person in the mirror.
BLM ?
Black Lives Matter.
Yes, no doubt that you could tell me everything I need to know about The Negro.
Most are great people, and I have the highest regards for MLK Jr, Nelson Mandela, Muhammad Ali, MJ, and countless others.
But look at how Powell, Holder and Lynch behave when they can, if they wish, make a difference.