More than 200 Republican lawyers gathered in a ballroom inside Washington, D.C.’s Four Seasons hotel for a celebratory inaugural luncheon on Thursday with incoming White House Counsel Don McGahn and Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump’s close adviser and the former mayor of New York City.
For $350, attendees got a plate of beef tenderloin, cocktails — and, from Giuliani, an off-color anecdote involving sex, 9/11, a former president, and another man’s wife.
Giuliani said it all happened on September 14, 2001, when he rode with former President George W. Bush in a convoy of vehicles to the smoking rubble of the World Trade Center.
“In the same car with me was my fire commissioner, Tom Van Essen,” Giuliani said. “And Tom had lost what turned out to be 343 firefighters. And President Bush recognized him from seeing him on television the prior two days. And he leaned over to Tom, grabbed his arm, and said to him, ‘Tom, I’m so sorry. How are things going?’ Tom looked at him and said, ‘Much better now. My wife came home last night and I got lucky.’”
“That’s locker room talk,” Giuliani continued. “President Bush remembered that so well that when he saw Tom three weeks later at a fire house dinner, he came up to him and said, ‘Tom, are you still getting lucky?’ And Tom said, ‘No, it’s worn out.’”
After 9/11, Giuliani used his new national profile to launch a security company and a failed bid for the presidency. More than 15 years later, the attacks on the World Trade Center remain at the core of his public identity. “To defeat Islamic extremist terrorists, we must put them on defense,” he said in a fiery speech at the 2016 Republican convention. Later in the campaign, the thrice-married Giuliani defended Trump after the October release of a video where the president-elect brags about how he likes to “grab them by the pussy.” “When you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump said. “You can do anything.”
Many accused Trump of trying to brush off serial sexual assault. Later, Trump said his words were nothing more than “locker room talk.”
At the Four Seasons on Thursday, after his joke, Giuliani launched into a more orthodox partisan speech.
He decried “assaults on the American Constitution.”
“It’s like we’ve been delivered from the wilderness,” he said, speaking of the election. “And boy, we were right on the cliff.”
He said that Trump had a gentle, generous, and modest side hidden under his tough exterior.
He referred to Hillary Clinton as “the person whose name I’ve forgotten.”
He also reminisced about his time on the campaign trail, telling stories of eating fast food and mediocre Midwestern pizza, “the worst pizza … I had to start taking Tums.” He praised Trump’s “beautiful airplane.” “I think Air Force One is going to be a step down,” he said.
The speech was met with applause and laughter from the crowd, which included Republican congressmen and federal judges. The luncheon was organized by the Republican National Lawyers Association, which had “deployed” many of the attorneys attending lunch to watch the polls in November.
One Illinois member of the RNLA displayed a belt-mounted badge that identified him as an election official. A board outside the luncheon identified those volunteer lawyers who had “truly helped make a difference” in the election.
McGahn’s remarks were more restrained. He said that he hoped to continue the legacy of Edwin Meese, the conservative icon who served as attorney general under Ronald Reagan and resigned while under investigation in 1988.
Efforts to reach Giuliani and Van Essen by phone late Thursday were unsuccessful. In a recent interview with the New York Observer, Van Essen said he often thought of the widows of the firefighters who died in the attacks, who would never be able to mourn their husbands’ bodies. “The inability to give these wonderful young women their husbands’ remains,” he said, “that’s the hardest part still.”
Top photo: Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani laughs as he arrives at Trump Tower, Nov. 16, 2016, in New York.
Trump won, I believe, because the media were so obsessed with taking a very dubious ang hypocritical moral highground . Shoud people talk 0f sex like that? No, but they do, women as much as men. (I work in a university, I hear)
Maybe if people had focussed on his disastrous policies and support of systemic racism, he would have lost. Maybe the Intercept can focus on revealing policy, not buffoonery, we would benefit.
Many Many people prefer the buffoon to the hypocrite
I see several comments complaining that this is not worthy to be reported as news. Exposing sexism is absolutely important news. Thank you for reporting.
Haa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Hee, hee hee. Sniff. Still weeping. (PNS Please note sarcasm.)
TIL denouncing the 9/11 perps = attacking the world trade center
Guiliani has absolutely no class- that must be why trump lets him hang around. Republicans make me sick- they prove that God is not perfect because all of them are defective- some of them must have had that problem from the “factory”- others got it by increasing their hate and greed.
i’m afraid i agree with some of the other comments here. Giuliani is a numbskull, but i don’t really think this kind of “news” is what people come to TI for.
Hey Rudy, next time you’re standing on the cliff, do us all a favor and freeeking jump off of it, you turd. Disgusting to tell a sex joke about 9/11.
Republiklan lawyers- I’m sure they were partying as they’re going to be pulling in some major bank keeping this clown car of losers out of jail. As for Rudy, unless it was a jr high locker room where he was pulling glory hole duty- he wouldn’t know a locker room from the inside of a woman.
More crap from the media. Sham on you.
All they did was print the mans own words.
We get it; a lot of you hypocrites are in continuous Kool-aid drinking mode. This is the type of people who “men of god” we’re praying to take over, right? Men who condone grabbing someone’s daughter by the pussy as locker room talk, and who then go on to call trump gods answer to our prayers.
You and your ilk are all hypocrites.
Feel shame.
Wow. True shining examples of professional behavior. When kids start emulating these guys I wonder how parents and teachers will react.
As with adults, it depends solely on their socioeconomic class. If they are poor enough, it doesn’t matter what they say — it was in bad taste, shows bad breeding, was wrong, suggests they need “special help” to make them permanently worse off. And if they’re wealthy, it’s evidence of scintillating wit, daring to take risks, self-confidence.
Great. 4 years of this type of B-squad intellect, a pleasant combo of ignorance and grinning confidence. Still, any worse than Hillary? Doubt it. Its over.
How’s that NIST report looking …
Positively disgusting… This is what we have to look forward to fellow Americans… 4 years of locker room talk and normalizing sexual indecency. Sad day in America history.
I’ve got to tell you, I am really disappointed in this kind of story in The Intercept. This is NY Post type of stuff.
What do I care about some stupid joke?
It’s not that big of a deal. Jesus. He was trying to make light of the situation, as any human being would do after a natural disaster. I wouldn’t even consider that, “Locker room” talk. That’s just striking up a conversation man to man. Getting lucky is one of the best activities in the world, of course you want to share it with your friends.
Yeah I am sure the 3000 plus people who died that day were thrilled to know that THREE fucking days after the event, the FIRE COMMISSIONER was making jokes that 9/11 got him laid. It isn’t funny AND if a Dem had said it, they would be deemed terrorist sympathizers.
How Rudy thinks he is an “expert” on PROTECTING people from terrorism is silly. He didn’t protect anybody.
Yep!! This is hugely demented!! “No its worn out?” No repect for women or our body parts!! And the audience laughed REALLY out loud.
Benito, maybe he could recruit some of the out of work CIA jokesters…some of these were pretty funny..
“One of the Gorbachev jokes read:
“A worker in a liquor line says, ‘I have had enough, save my place, I am going to shoot Gorbachev.’ Two hours later he returns to claim his place in line. His friends ask, ‘Did you get him? No, the line there was even longer than the line here’.”
https://www.rt.com/viral/374301-cia-files-soviet-jokes/
(tried to respond directly to Benito Mussolini, but “reply” function doesn’t work…not for the first time)
I like the intercept but this is lame. It just sounds to me the fireman was just breaking the tension with humor during a high stress time. It’s like the Trump appointees “bears and school” comment. It’s Inartful and even stupid, but to have a liberal gleefest over it says more about the detractors than the speaker.
This is a flimsy hook. I’m not a Trump supporter at all, but I’ve been in the EMS community for almost 10 years. We’re known for our twisted sense of humor to cope with seeing dark, depressing things every day. And a fire commissioner trying to cope with the terrible losses of 9/11 joking about having what we can assume is consensual sex with his WIFE is not the same as Trump’s abhorrent “lockroom talk” about sexually assaulting someone else’s wife.
Weak argument bro. Try harder.
Do I detect a little bit of denture adhesive peeking out there?
How refreshing is to see men talking like… Real men. The pussies can get their panties in a knot all they want. But this type of honesty is what’s missing in the cesspool of liars that DC was. I feel hope for the country again.
That’s not even close to being funny, that is cruel and disrespectful.
I hate Guli but c’mon man, levity of this type is not a bad thing during a bad time. He was just recounting it.
My god, this is your website’s take on current events/news? It sounds like you’ve never had a real job in the real world. Meet some “real” men sometime, if you can’t stand it, cover your ears. They’re the ones out there making things run, making things happen and it’s about time our world gets moving again. Enough with the pandering already.
Who cares what Giuliani jokes about? How does this impact anything, really?
This just isn’t even funny. Forget about tasteless and inappropriate just plain old NOT FUNNY. Sad!
Goul-iani is an absolute creep! How can anyone take this closeted rapist seriously?
It’s not that I want to see Giuliani keelhauled for some bizarre humor — but these are the same people who are going to be running around in the next few months finding ways to condemn all of us for what we say and believe. And we ought to have a way of keeping track of how hypocritical and stupid all that will be.
This is the stupidest thing I have read since the internet was started back in the 1960s.
I had noticed that Mr. Trump’s cabinet picks did not include a joke writer, and now this omission is coming back to bite the administration. I am not normally pessimistic, but I fear that over the next four years, we may be subjected to a lot of lame jokes.
This is indeed the darkest timeline.
i hope he doesnt laff so hard his teeth fall out.
A class act this Giuliani huh? I say he’s the kind of gentleman whose IQ level surpasses almost every man on Earth. When it comes down to it, how a man is able to strike down anyone in his path to enrich himself in any monetary way possible, is how you get to Heaven and gain support from so many spoiled, uninformed individuals who never complete an intelligent thought, that actually think they’re self destructive points and superior knowledge about politics and moral standards are really true. God bless Giuliani and the magnified hate you can truly see in his EYES. The hate for anyone that stands between him and the money he doesn’t earn with his honest efforts, hands, or hard work. Its amazing how naive and cruel people can be to themselves, and their own loves ones
Just for the sake of feeling justified for hating others and a euphoria of satisfying their mean inner souls. Pray for America.
It’s like the evil pigs in animal farm pretending to be human by doing human things but everuything they are and do gives them away.
Still using the same old formula: Noun (man’s wife) + Verb (sex) + 9/11
why is anyone still talking about this squinty greaseball? jesus…he’s like the guy who won the state championship in high school and still brings it up at age 60. also: the correct spelling is 9iul1an1.
Guiliani made a comment about 9/11?
LAME! You should submit this to “Before Its News” it would be more appropriate there with all the other lame so called journalist.
Yech! ????
he’s a fun guy
very street wise sense of humour
smart too – from his earliest days in school he has been able to remember and make use of stuff
He made his Chauffeur head of NYPD ( the guy gave good head )!! He’s a degenerate , slimeball politician !
Yep… Thats hugely demented. “No its worn out now?” No respect for women or our body parts!!
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The Intercept brings us tacky inaugural gossip, trying — and failing miserably — to tie it to issues of import and relevance.
Blecch.
Absolutely riveting investigative journalism.
Thanks so much for this latest installment Mr. Schwartz.
9/11 is NOT a laughing matter. The USA was lied to. It was obviously an inside job. Giuliani had his emergency headquarters in bldg 7. He has been part of the scam.
I am PROUD Trump chose not to nominate Giuliani to a cabinet post.
Yeah, real smart idea to put your headquarters for planning an inside job at ground zero of where it’s about to happen. Do you conspiracy theorists ever sit and think about any of your nonsense?
I’d like to punch Giuliani in his big fat ugly face.He is the main reason for the loss of all those Firefighters and Police Lives.He was too cheap to upgrade the Communication System between the Fire department and Police department.Numerous lives would have been saved if they could have talked to each. He will always have their blood on his Hands.
And I thought Bush’s WMD joke at the correspondent’s dinner was in bad taste.
Of course, one can hope that Trump won’t listen to Guliani, given Guliani’s belicose foreign policy. (Of course, the media liked Guliani’s foreign policy, with his 2008 attack on Ron Paul being the reason he was declared winner of a debate.)
Won’t listen!? Giuliani would be the very first he’d listen to. (Well, second if counting Bannon the Bigot.)
Hell, with the incoming fascist-in-chief raring to arrest whatever Mexican, Muslim, or aborting woman they can find, they’d have a great chat about Brutalist architecture prisons, seeing as Trump likes building and Giuliani loves police brutality.
He’s gonna keep the White House open, and he’s gonna load it up with some bad dudes, believe me, he’s gonna load it up. ????
(Pay no attention to the mass of question marks there. The attempt at a Unicode emoji failed, for better or worse.)
TI comment software is very provincial. It only understands ISO 8859-1.
It helps to deter Russian agents. ;^)