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KSM cable C06669354
Sep. 10, 2019
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Date:
TO: DIRECTOR
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SUBJECT:
EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKHMUHAMMAD
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SUBJECT:
EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH
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TEXT:
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ACTION REQUIRED:
2.
ATMOSPHERICS:
A.
ON 18 MARCH 2003
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NONE, FYI.
( (KHALID
SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS
INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS!
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CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING THE SESSIONS.
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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354
Date:
TO: DIRECTOR
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FROM:
SUBJECT:
EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKHMUHAMMAD
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TO:
IMMEDIATE DIRECTOR.
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SUBJECT:
EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH
MUHAMMAD
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REF:
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TEXT:
1.
ACTION REQUIRED:
2.
ATMOSPHERICS:
A.
ON 18 MARCH 2003
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NONE, FYI.
( (KHALID
SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS
INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS!
~------------ALEC TDYERS
CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING THE SESSIONS.
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DEPRIVATIONENDEDAT 2400 ON 17 MARCH2003.
B.
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KSMWAS INTERROGATED
IN THE FIRST SESSION FROM0900 TO 1420.
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C. AT THE SECONDSESSION, FROM1645 TO 1900, KSMWASCONFRONTED
REGARDINGHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID ( (KHAN) ) • KSMWASTOLD THAT HIS
STORY WASNOT MATCHINGWITH MAJID'S, AND THAT HE WOULDHAVETO PAY A
PRICE FOR LYING. KSMADMITTEDHE HAD LIED, THEN EXPLAINEDHIS
CONTACTSWITH MAJID, HIS PLAN TO ATTACKGASOLINESTATIONS IN THE US,
AND THE ALL-PURPOSEJAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT
IN THE PLAN.
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KSMWASTOLD HIS STORYABOUTAL-TAY'YAR WASNOT
CONSISTENTWITH MAJID'S AND THAT HE WOULDHAVESOMETIME TO THINK
ABOUTIT. AT THE END OF THE SESSION, KSMWASTOLD HE HAD NOT BEEN
FORTHCOMING
AND HONEST, EVEN WITH THE BETTER TREATMENT. HE WAS
RE-INITIATED IN SLEEP DEPRIVATION, IN THE STANDINGPOSITION, AT 1900
ON 18 MARCH2003.
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ENHANCED
MEASURES
: PER THE REQUIREMENTS
OF REF B,
APPROPRIATEMEDICALAND PSYCHOLOGICAL
PERSONNELWEREPRESENT.
ENHANCEDINTERROGATION
TECHNIQUESFOR KHALIDSHAYKHMUHAMMAD WERE
AUTHORIZEDBY REF B, AUTHORIZEDTO BE EMPLOYED
BY CERTIFIED
INTERROGATORS
THE FOLLOWINGENHANCED
MEASURESWEREEMPLOYED
BY
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HVTI TEAMWITH COB, RMO, AND HVT PSYCHOLOGISTOBSERVING:
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DEPRIVATIONWASRE-INITIATED AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003.
SUBJECT AWOKE(b)(3) NatSecAct
FROMHIS LAST PERIOD OF SLEEP AT 0900 TODAY.
4.
WATERBOARD:NOT UTILIZED DURINGTHESE SESSIONS.
5. ASSESSMENT: KSMWASPRESENTEDWITH INCONSISTENCIESIN HIS
STORY COMPARED
WITH THAT OF MAJID KHAN. WHENCONFRONTED
IN THIS
MANNER,KSMRESPONDEDBY PROVIDINGINFORMATION
ABOUTHIS SELECTIONOF
KHANAS A SUICIDE OPERATIVE, HIS TASKINGOF KHANWHENHE WENTTO THE
US, AND HIS PLANS FOR KHAN. THIS CONFIRMSOUR BELIEF THAT KSMWILL
SELECTIVELYLIE, PROVIDE PARTIAL TRUTHS, AND MISDIRECT WHENHE
BELIEVES HE WILL NOT BE FOUNDOUT AND HELDACCOUNTABLE.THAT SAID,
KSMAPPEARS MOREINCLINED TO MAKEACCURATEDISCLOSURESWHENHE
BELIEVES PEOPLE, EMAILS, OR OTHERSOURCEMATERIALARE AVAILABLETO
THE USG FOR CHECKINGHIS RESPONSES. A POSSIBLE KEY PART OF THE
SECONDSESSION WASKSM'S REVELATIONOF AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT
WITH
KHAN. SOMETIMESWITHOUTINTENDINGTO, KSMHAS WOVENAL-TAY'YAR INTO
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DEPRIVATIONENDEDAT 2400 ON 17 MARCH2003.
B.
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KSMWAS INTERROGATED
IN THE FIRST SESSION FROM0900 TO 1420.
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C. AT THE SECONDSESSION, FROM1645 TO 1900, KSMWASCONFRONTED
REGARDINGHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID ( (KHAN) ) • KSMWASTOLD THAT HIS
STORY WASNOT MATCHINGWITH MAJID'S, AND THAT HE WOULDHAVETO PAY A
PRICE FOR LYING. KSMADMITTEDHE HAD LIED, THEN EXPLAINEDHIS
CONTACTSWITH MAJID, HIS PLAN TO ATTACKGASOLINESTATIONS IN THE US,
AND THE ALL-PURPOSEJAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT
IN THE PLAN.
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KSMWASTOLD HIS STORYABOUTAL-TAY'YAR WASNOT
CONSISTENTWITH MAJID'S AND THAT HE WOULDHAVESOMETIME TO THINK
ABOUTIT. AT THE END OF THE SESSION, KSMWASTOLD HE HAD NOT BEEN
FORTHCOMING
AND HONEST, EVEN WITH THE BETTER TREATMENT. HE WAS
RE-INITIATED IN SLEEP DEPRIVATION, IN THE STANDINGPOSITION, AT 1900
ON 18 MARCH2003.
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ENHANCED
MEASURES
: PER THE REQUIREMENTS
OF REF B,
APPROPRIATEMEDICALAND PSYCHOLOGICAL
PERSONNELWEREPRESENT.
ENHANCEDINTERROGATION
TECHNIQUESFOR KHALIDSHAYKHMUHAMMAD WERE
AUTHORIZEDBY REF B, AUTHORIZEDTO BE EMPLOYED
BY CERTIFIED
INTERROGATORS
THE FOLLOWINGENHANCED
MEASURESWEREEMPLOYED
BY
3•
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.
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GRASP, ATTENTIONGRASP. sUBJECT's SLEEP
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DEPRIVATIONWASRE-INITIATED AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003.
SUBJECT AWOKE(b)(3) NatSecAct
FROMHIS LAST PERIOD OF SLEEP AT 0900 TODAY.
4.
WATERBOARD:NOT UTILIZED DURINGTHESE SESSIONS.
5. ASSESSMENT: KSMWASPRESENTEDWITH INCONSISTENCIESIN HIS
STORY COMPARED
WITH THAT OF MAJID KHAN. WHENCONFRONTED
IN THIS
MANNER,KSMRESPONDEDBY PROVIDINGINFORMATION
ABOUTHIS SELECTIONOF
KHANAS A SUICIDE OPERATIVE, HIS TASKINGOF KHANWHENHE WENTTO THE
US, AND HIS PLANS FOR KHAN. THIS CONFIRMSOUR BELIEF THAT KSMWILL
SELECTIVELYLIE, PROVIDE PARTIAL TRUTHS, AND MISDIRECT WHENHE
BELIEVES HE WILL NOT BE FOUNDOUT AND HELDACCOUNTABLE.THAT SAID,
KSMAPPEARS MOREINCLINED TO MAKEACCURATEDISCLOSURESWHENHE
BELIEVES PEOPLE, EMAILS, OR OTHERSOURCEMATERIALARE AVAILABLETO
THE USG FOR CHECKINGHIS RESPONSES. A POSSIBLE KEY PART OF THE
SECONDSESSION WASKSM'S REVELATIONOF AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT
WITH
KHAN. SOMETIMESWITHOUTINTENDINGTO, KSMHAS WOVENAL-TAY'YAR INTO
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PRACTICALLYEVERY STORY, EACH TIME WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE. DESPITE
AL-TAY'YAR'S EMERGENCE
AND KSMADMITTINGTHAT AL~TAY'YARPOSSESSES
CAPABILITIES SIMILAR TO MUHAMMED
( (ATTA)) , KSM PERSISTENTLYDENIES
KNOWLEDGE
OF THE DETAILS OF AL-TAY'YAR'S INTENTIONS AND ACTIVITIES.
WE BELIEVE THIS COULDINDICATE THAT KSM IS TRYING TO PROTECT
AL-TAY'YAR, AND WE INTEND TO FOCUS MORESTRONGLYON HIM. THE STORY
OF THE POSSIBLE GASOLINESTATION ATTACKSRINGS CONSISTENTWITH
PREVIOUS REPORTING FROMRAMZI ((BIN AL-SHIBH)) AND KSM'S OWNEARLIER
ADMISSIONS.
6.
PLANS: KSM WILL BE MAINTAINEDIN SLEEP DEPRIVATIONTO ALLOW
HIM TO PONDERHIS SITUATION. HE WAS LEFT WITH THE ENJOINDER THAT HE
SHOULDPROVIDE MORECOMPLETEDETAILS ON JAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR, AND HE
WILL BE INTERROGATEDON THAT SUBJECT AT THE NEXT SESSION. HVTI TEAM
INTENDS TO MAINTAINTHE PRESSURE ON KSM, NOWTHAT A CRACKHAS FORMED,
AND CONTINUETO PUSH HIM TO CLARIFY HIS EARLIER INCONSISTENCIES.
7. MEDICALOBSERVATIONS: PLS SEE SEPARATECABLE REGARDINGMEDICAL
REVIEW.
8.
HVT/SM PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: AS HVT TEAMANTICIPATED, SUBJECT
APPEARS INTENT ON MAXIMIZINGHIS TALK-TIME WITH DEBRIEFERS.
AND OTHERHVT TEAMMEMBERSBELIEVE THAT SUBJECT'S
EXPERIENCE WITH ENHANCED
MEASURESCONTRIBUTESTO ONGOINGSIGNIFICANT
PSYCHOLOGICALPRESSURETO AVOID SITUATIONS ASSOCIATEDWITH THEIR
IMPLEMENTATION. SUBJECT APPEARS MOTIVATEDTO ESPECIALLYAVOID THE
WATERBOARD. SUBJECT ALSO APPEARS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND
THAT ATTEMPTS
TO LIE AND MISLEAD WILL INCUR A COST THAT INVOLVESTHE IMPLEMENTATION
OF ONE OR MOREENHANCED
MEASURES. HE ALSO HAS BEEN TOLD AND
UNDERSTANDSTHAT SELF-CORRECTIONSWILL NOT RESULT IN SUCH COSTS. AT
THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUBJECT WAS REMINDEDTHAT INTERROGATORS
WERE
GOING TO KEEP THEIR WORDAND IMPOSE AN ENHANCEDMEASUREBECAUSETHE
SUBJECT HAD ATTEMPTEDTO MISLEAD ON A PARTICULARISSUE UNTIL
CONFRONTEDBY INTERROGATORS. SUBJECT WASOFFERED THE CHOICE OF THE
WATERBOARD
OR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION" AND SUBJECT IMMEDIATELY
TURNEDAWAYFROMHIS CELL DOORAND APPROPRIATELYPOSITIONED HIMSELF
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOMFOR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION". OVERALL,
THE SUBJECT DISPLAYEDACTIVE ENGAGEMENT
WITH INTERROGATORS
AND
WILLINGNESS TO RESPONDTO, AND EVEN ELABORATEON, QUESTIONSRELATED
TO POSSIBLE THREATS (PLANS, TARGETS, AND PEOPLE) TO THE UNITED
STATES. HVT TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION
THAT TDY DEBRIEFERS ALLOWSUBJECT
TIME TO RESPONDTO ONE QUESTIONAT A TIME, EVEN IF IT MEANSLONG
PERIODS OF SILENCE, HAS DECREASEDSUBJECT'S CONFUSIONAND/OR ABILITY
TO AVOID DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. DURING TODAY'S SESSIONS, SUBJECT
REMAINEDFULLY ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND ENGAGEDWITH INTERROGATORS. HIS
SPEECH WAS STEADY, ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND APPROPRIATETO
CONTEXT. SUBJECT'S THOUGHTPROCESSES APPEAREDINTACT, PER GROSS
EVALUATION. THERE WERENO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT
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PRACTICALLYEVERY STORY, EACH TIME WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE. DESPITE
AL-TAY'YAR'S EMERGENCE
AND KSMADMITTINGTHAT AL~TAY'YARPOSSESSES
CAPABILITIES SIMILAR TO MUHAMMED
( (ATTA)) , KSM PERSISTENTLYDENIES
KNOWLEDGE
OF THE DETAILS OF AL-TAY'YAR'S INTENTIONS AND ACTIVITIES.
WE BELIEVE THIS COULDINDICATE THAT KSM IS TRYING TO PROTECT
AL-TAY'YAR, AND WE INTEND TO FOCUS MORESTRONGLYON HIM. THE STORY
OF THE POSSIBLE GASOLINESTATION ATTACKSRINGS CONSISTENTWITH
PREVIOUS REPORTING FROMRAMZI ((BIN AL-SHIBH)) AND KSM'S OWNEARLIER
ADMISSIONS.
6.
PLANS: KSM WILL BE MAINTAINEDIN SLEEP DEPRIVATIONTO ALLOW
HIM TO PONDERHIS SITUATION. HE WAS LEFT WITH THE ENJOINDER THAT HE
SHOULDPROVIDE MORECOMPLETEDETAILS ON JAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR, AND HE
WILL BE INTERROGATEDON THAT SUBJECT AT THE NEXT SESSION. HVTI TEAM
INTENDS TO MAINTAINTHE PRESSURE ON KSM, NOWTHAT A CRACKHAS FORMED,
AND CONTINUETO PUSH HIM TO CLARIFY HIS EARLIER INCONSISTENCIES.
7. MEDICALOBSERVATIONS: PLS SEE SEPARATECABLE REGARDINGMEDICAL
REVIEW.
8.
HVT/SM PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: AS HVT TEAMANTICIPATED, SUBJECT
APPEARS INTENT ON MAXIMIZINGHIS TALK-TIME WITH DEBRIEFERS.
AND OTHERHVT TEAMMEMBERSBELIEVE THAT SUBJECT'S
EXPERIENCE WITH ENHANCED
MEASURESCONTRIBUTESTO ONGOINGSIGNIFICANT
PSYCHOLOGICALPRESSURETO AVOID SITUATIONS ASSOCIATEDWITH THEIR
IMPLEMENTATION. SUBJECT APPEARS MOTIVATEDTO ESPECIALLYAVOID THE
WATERBOARD. SUBJECT ALSO APPEARS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND
THAT ATTEMPTS
TO LIE AND MISLEAD WILL INCUR A COST THAT INVOLVESTHE IMPLEMENTATION
OF ONE OR MOREENHANCED
MEASURES. HE ALSO HAS BEEN TOLD AND
UNDERSTANDSTHAT SELF-CORRECTIONSWILL NOT RESULT IN SUCH COSTS. AT
THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUBJECT WAS REMINDEDTHAT INTERROGATORS
WERE
GOING TO KEEP THEIR WORDAND IMPOSE AN ENHANCEDMEASUREBECAUSETHE
SUBJECT HAD ATTEMPTEDTO MISLEAD ON A PARTICULARISSUE UNTIL
CONFRONTEDBY INTERROGATORS. SUBJECT WASOFFERED THE CHOICE OF THE
WATERBOARD
OR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION" AND SUBJECT IMMEDIATELY
TURNEDAWAYFROMHIS CELL DOORAND APPROPRIATELYPOSITIONED HIMSELF
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOMFOR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION". OVERALL,
THE SUBJECT DISPLAYEDACTIVE ENGAGEMENT
WITH INTERROGATORS
AND
WILLINGNESS TO RESPONDTO, AND EVEN ELABORATEON, QUESTIONSRELATED
TO POSSIBLE THREATS (PLANS, TARGETS, AND PEOPLE) TO THE UNITED
STATES. HVT TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION
THAT TDY DEBRIEFERS ALLOWSUBJECT
TIME TO RESPONDTO ONE QUESTIONAT A TIME, EVEN IF IT MEANSLONG
PERIODS OF SILENCE, HAS DECREASEDSUBJECT'S CONFUSIONAND/OR ABILITY
TO AVOID DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. DURING TODAY'S SESSIONS, SUBJECT
REMAINEDFULLY ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND ENGAGEDWITH INTERROGATORS. HIS
SPEECH WAS STEADY, ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND APPROPRIATETO
CONTEXT. SUBJECT'S THOUGHTPROCESSES APPEAREDINTACT, PER GROSS
EVALUATION. THERE WERENO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT
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