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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 Date: TO: DIRECTOR ··~:· FROM: SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKHMUHAMMAD ----------------------------------------BODY---------------------------------------- l (b)(1) (b)(3) CIAAct r(b)(3) NatSecAc:r=t =======;------------;============;-- .,., """""" (b)(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct r--------------~~~~~~~- ------{b )(3) NatSecAct- -- -- - --- - -- (b )(3) N~tSecAct ~---(b)(3) NatSecAct c=J10214oz MAR 03 ------------.------------------------------------------(b)(3) (b )( 1) r o P s E e: K E 'f 10213sz MAR 03 STAFF (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecA~ c_t__ ___,!10004 L(b)d)~ CIAAct ___________ _ (b)(3) NatSecAct 1 TO: IMMEDIATE DIRECTOR. (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD ~__ REF: (b)(1) ____ (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct _ TEXT: 1. ACTION REQUIRED: 2. ATMOSPHERICS: A. ON 18 MARCH 2003 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct NONE, FYI. ( (KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS! ~------------ALEC TDYERS CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING THE SESSIONS. ~I ------~ SLEEP Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 Date: TO: DIRECTOR ··~:· FROM: SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKHMUHAMMAD ----------------------------------------BODY---------------------------------------- l (b)(1) (b)(3) CIAAct r(b)(3) NatSecAc:r=t =======;------------;============;-- .,., """""" (b)(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct r--------------~~~~~~~- ------{b )(3) NatSecAct- -- -- - --- - -- (b )(3) N~tSecAct ~---(b)(3) NatSecAct c=J10214oz MAR 03 ------------.------------------------------------------(b)(3) (b )( 1) r o P s E e: K E 'f 10213sz MAR 03 STAFF (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecA~ c_t__ ___,!10004 L(b)d)~ CIAAct ___________ _ (b)(3) NatSecAct 1 TO: IMMEDIATE DIRECTOR. (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 18 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD ~__ REF: (b)(1) ____ (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct _ TEXT: 1. ACTION REQUIRED: 2. ATMOSPHERICS: A. ON 18 MARCH 2003 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct NONE, FYI. ( (KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS! ~------------ALEC TDYERS CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING THE SESSIONS. ~I ------~ SLEEP Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 DEPRIVATIONENDEDAT 2400 ON 17 MARCH2003. B. -~. KSMWAS INTERROGATED IN THE FIRST SESSION FROM0900 TO 1420. (b )( 1) (b)(3) (b )( 1) (b)(3) NatSecAct C. AT THE SECONDSESSION, FROM1645 TO 1900, KSMWASCONFRONTED REGARDINGHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID ( (KHAN) ) • KSMWASTOLD THAT HIS STORY WASNOT MATCHINGWITH MAJID'S, AND THAT HE WOULDHAVETO PAY A PRICE FOR LYING. KSMADMITTEDHE HAD LIED, THEN EXPLAINEDHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID, HIS PLAN TO ATTACKGASOLINESTATIONS IN THE US, AND THE ALL-PURPOSEJAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE PLAN. NatSecAc'=====a----=---------------------" KSMWASTOLD HIS STORYABOUTAL-TAY'YAR WASNOT CONSISTENTWITH MAJID'S AND THAT HE WOULDHAVESOMETIME TO THINK ABOUTIT. AT THE END OF THE SESSION, KSMWASTOLD HE HAD NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING AND HONEST, EVEN WITH THE BETTER TREATMENT. HE WAS RE-INITIATED IN SLEEP DEPRIVATION, IN THE STANDINGPOSITION, AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003. ~--------~ ENHANCED MEASURES : PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF REF B, APPROPRIATEMEDICALAND PSYCHOLOGICAL PERSONNELWEREPRESENT. ENHANCEDINTERROGATION TECHNIQUESFOR KHALIDSHAYKHMUHAMMAD WERE AUTHORIZEDBY REF B, AUTHORIZEDTO BE EMPLOYED BY CERTIFIED INTERROGATORS THE FOLLOWINGENHANCED MEASURESWEREEMPLOYED BY 3• c__ _______________________ (b )( 1) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) __J HVTI TEAMWITH COB, RMO, AND HVT PSYCHOLOGISTOBSERVING: . (b)(1) ~---~FACIAL GRASP, ATTENTIONGRASP. sUBJECT's SLEEP (b)( 3 ) CIAAct DEPRIVATIONWASRE-INITIATED AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003. SUBJECT AWOKE(b)(3) NatSecAct FROMHIS LAST PERIOD OF SLEEP AT 0900 TODAY. 4. WATERBOARD:NOT UTILIZED DURINGTHESE SESSIONS. 5. ASSESSMENT: KSMWASPRESENTEDWITH INCONSISTENCIESIN HIS STORY COMPARED WITH THAT OF MAJID KHAN. WHENCONFRONTED IN THIS MANNER,KSMRESPONDEDBY PROVIDINGINFORMATION ABOUTHIS SELECTIONOF KHANAS A SUICIDE OPERATIVE, HIS TASKINGOF KHANWHENHE WENTTO THE US, AND HIS PLANS FOR KHAN. THIS CONFIRMSOUR BELIEF THAT KSMWILL SELECTIVELYLIE, PROVIDE PARTIAL TRUTHS, AND MISDIRECT WHENHE BELIEVES HE WILL NOT BE FOUNDOUT AND HELDACCOUNTABLE.THAT SAID, KSMAPPEARS MOREINCLINED TO MAKEACCURATEDISCLOSURESWHENHE BELIEVES PEOPLE, EMAILS, OR OTHERSOURCEMATERIALARE AVAILABLETO THE USG FOR CHECKINGHIS RESPONSES. A POSSIBLE KEY PART OF THE SECONDSESSION WASKSM'S REVELATIONOF AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT WITH KHAN. SOMETIMESWITHOUTINTENDINGTO, KSMHAS WOVENAL-TAY'YAR INTO Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354
Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 DEPRIVATIONENDEDAT 2400 ON 17 MARCH2003. B. -~. KSMWAS INTERROGATED IN THE FIRST SESSION FROM0900 TO 1420. (b )( 1) (b)(3) (b )( 1) (b)(3) NatSecAct C. AT THE SECONDSESSION, FROM1645 TO 1900, KSMWASCONFRONTED REGARDINGHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID ( (KHAN) ) • KSMWASTOLD THAT HIS STORY WASNOT MATCHINGWITH MAJID'S, AND THAT HE WOULDHAVETO PAY A PRICE FOR LYING. KSMADMITTEDHE HAD LIED, THEN EXPLAINEDHIS CONTACTSWITH MAJID, HIS PLAN TO ATTACKGASOLINESTATIONS IN THE US, AND THE ALL-PURPOSEJAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE PLAN. NatSecAc'=====a----=---------------------" KSMWASTOLD HIS STORYABOUTAL-TAY'YAR WASNOT CONSISTENTWITH MAJID'S AND THAT HE WOULDHAVESOMETIME TO THINK ABOUTIT. AT THE END OF THE SESSION, KSMWASTOLD HE HAD NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING AND HONEST, EVEN WITH THE BETTER TREATMENT. HE WAS RE-INITIATED IN SLEEP DEPRIVATION, IN THE STANDINGPOSITION, AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003. ~--------~ ENHANCED MEASURES : PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF REF B, APPROPRIATEMEDICALAND PSYCHOLOGICAL PERSONNELWEREPRESENT. ENHANCEDINTERROGATION TECHNIQUESFOR KHALIDSHAYKHMUHAMMAD WERE AUTHORIZEDBY REF B, AUTHORIZEDTO BE EMPLOYED BY CERTIFIED INTERROGATORS THE FOLLOWINGENHANCED MEASURESWEREEMPLOYED BY 3• c__ _______________________ (b )( 1) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) __J HVTI TEAMWITH COB, RMO, AND HVT PSYCHOLOGISTOBSERVING: . (b)(1) ~---~FACIAL GRASP, ATTENTIONGRASP. sUBJECT's SLEEP (b)( 3 ) CIAAct DEPRIVATIONWASRE-INITIATED AT 1900 ON 18 MARCH2003. SUBJECT AWOKE(b)(3) NatSecAct FROMHIS LAST PERIOD OF SLEEP AT 0900 TODAY. 4. WATERBOARD:NOT UTILIZED DURINGTHESE SESSIONS. 5. ASSESSMENT: KSMWASPRESENTEDWITH INCONSISTENCIESIN HIS STORY COMPARED WITH THAT OF MAJID KHAN. WHENCONFRONTED IN THIS MANNER,KSMRESPONDEDBY PROVIDINGINFORMATION ABOUTHIS SELECTIONOF KHANAS A SUICIDE OPERATIVE, HIS TASKINGOF KHANWHENHE WENTTO THE US, AND HIS PLANS FOR KHAN. THIS CONFIRMSOUR BELIEF THAT KSMWILL SELECTIVELYLIE, PROVIDE PARTIAL TRUTHS, AND MISDIRECT WHENHE BELIEVES HE WILL NOT BE FOUNDOUT AND HELDACCOUNTABLE.THAT SAID, KSMAPPEARS MOREINCLINED TO MAKEACCURATEDISCLOSURESWHENHE BELIEVES PEOPLE, EMAILS, OR OTHERSOURCEMATERIALARE AVAILABLETO THE USG FOR CHECKINGHIS RESPONSES. A POSSIBLE KEY PART OF THE SECONDSESSION WASKSM'S REVELATIONOF AL-TAY'YAR'S INVOLVEMENT WITH KHAN. SOMETIMESWITHOUTINTENDINGTO, KSMHAS WOVENAL-TAY'YAR INTO Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354
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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 PRACTICALLYEVERY STORY, EACH TIME WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE. DESPITE AL-TAY'YAR'S EMERGENCE AND KSMADMITTINGTHAT AL~TAY'YARPOSSESSES CAPABILITIES SIMILAR TO MUHAMMED ( (ATTA)) , KSM PERSISTENTLYDENIES KNOWLEDGE OF THE DETAILS OF AL-TAY'YAR'S INTENTIONS AND ACTIVITIES. WE BELIEVE THIS COULDINDICATE THAT KSM IS TRYING TO PROTECT AL-TAY'YAR, AND WE INTEND TO FOCUS MORESTRONGLYON HIM. THE STORY OF THE POSSIBLE GASOLINESTATION ATTACKSRINGS CONSISTENTWITH PREVIOUS REPORTING FROMRAMZI ((BIN AL-SHIBH)) AND KSM'S OWNEARLIER ADMISSIONS. 6. PLANS: KSM WILL BE MAINTAINEDIN SLEEP DEPRIVATIONTO ALLOW HIM TO PONDERHIS SITUATION. HE WAS LEFT WITH THE ENJOINDER THAT HE SHOULDPROVIDE MORECOMPLETEDETAILS ON JAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR, AND HE WILL BE INTERROGATEDON THAT SUBJECT AT THE NEXT SESSION. HVTI TEAM INTENDS TO MAINTAINTHE PRESSURE ON KSM, NOWTHAT A CRACKHAS FORMED, AND CONTINUETO PUSH HIM TO CLARIFY HIS EARLIER INCONSISTENCIES. 7. MEDICALOBSERVATIONS: PLS SEE SEPARATECABLE REGARDINGMEDICAL REVIEW. 8. HVT/SM PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: AS HVT TEAMANTICIPATED, SUBJECT APPEARS INTENT ON MAXIMIZINGHIS TALK-TIME WITH DEBRIEFERS. AND OTHERHVT TEAMMEMBERSBELIEVE THAT SUBJECT'S EXPERIENCE WITH ENHANCED MEASURESCONTRIBUTESTO ONGOINGSIGNIFICANT PSYCHOLOGICALPRESSURETO AVOID SITUATIONS ASSOCIATEDWITH THEIR IMPLEMENTATION. SUBJECT APPEARS MOTIVATEDTO ESPECIALLYAVOID THE WATERBOARD. SUBJECT ALSO APPEARS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ATTEMPTS TO LIE AND MISLEAD WILL INCUR A COST THAT INVOLVESTHE IMPLEMENTATION OF ONE OR MOREENHANCED MEASURES. HE ALSO HAS BEEN TOLD AND UNDERSTANDSTHAT SELF-CORRECTIONSWILL NOT RESULT IN SUCH COSTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUBJECT WAS REMINDEDTHAT INTERROGATORS WERE GOING TO KEEP THEIR WORDAND IMPOSE AN ENHANCEDMEASUREBECAUSETHE SUBJECT HAD ATTEMPTEDTO MISLEAD ON A PARTICULARISSUE UNTIL CONFRONTEDBY INTERROGATORS. SUBJECT WASOFFERED THE CHOICE OF THE WATERBOARD OR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION" AND SUBJECT IMMEDIATELY TURNEDAWAYFROMHIS CELL DOORAND APPROPRIATELYPOSITIONED HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOMFOR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION". OVERALL, THE SUBJECT DISPLAYEDACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH INTERROGATORS AND WILLINGNESS TO RESPONDTO, AND EVEN ELABORATEON, QUESTIONSRELATED TO POSSIBLE THREATS (PLANS, TARGETS, AND PEOPLE) TO THE UNITED STATES. HVT TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION THAT TDY DEBRIEFERS ALLOWSUBJECT TIME TO RESPONDTO ONE QUESTIONAT A TIME, EVEN IF IT MEANSLONG PERIODS OF SILENCE, HAS DECREASEDSUBJECT'S CONFUSIONAND/OR ABILITY TO AVOID DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. DURING TODAY'S SESSIONS, SUBJECT REMAINEDFULLY ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND ENGAGEDWITH INTERROGATORS. HIS SPEECH WAS STEADY, ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND APPROPRIATETO CONTEXT. SUBJECT'S THOUGHTPROCESSES APPEAREDINTACT, PER GROSS EVALUATION. THERE WERENO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT ~---~ \. E~M_o_TI_o_N_AL_o_R_Ps_Y_c_H_OL_OG_ICAL __ HARM __ · ________ (b)(1) ____ ~ (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 PRACTICALLYEVERY STORY, EACH TIME WITH A DIFFERENT ROLE. DESPITE AL-TAY'YAR'S EMERGENCE AND KSMADMITTINGTHAT AL~TAY'YARPOSSESSES CAPABILITIES SIMILAR TO MUHAMMED ( (ATTA)) , KSM PERSISTENTLYDENIES KNOWLEDGE OF THE DETAILS OF AL-TAY'YAR'S INTENTIONS AND ACTIVITIES. WE BELIEVE THIS COULDINDICATE THAT KSM IS TRYING TO PROTECT AL-TAY'YAR, AND WE INTEND TO FOCUS MORESTRONGLYON HIM. THE STORY OF THE POSSIBLE GASOLINESTATION ATTACKSRINGS CONSISTENTWITH PREVIOUS REPORTING FROMRAMZI ((BIN AL-SHIBH)) AND KSM'S OWNEARLIER ADMISSIONS. 6. PLANS: KSM WILL BE MAINTAINEDIN SLEEP DEPRIVATIONTO ALLOW HIM TO PONDERHIS SITUATION. HE WAS LEFT WITH THE ENJOINDER THAT HE SHOULDPROVIDE MORECOMPLETEDETAILS ON JAFFAR AL-TAY'YAR, AND HE WILL BE INTERROGATEDON THAT SUBJECT AT THE NEXT SESSION. HVTI TEAM INTENDS TO MAINTAINTHE PRESSURE ON KSM, NOWTHAT A CRACKHAS FORMED, AND CONTINUETO PUSH HIM TO CLARIFY HIS EARLIER INCONSISTENCIES. 7. MEDICALOBSERVATIONS: PLS SEE SEPARATECABLE REGARDINGMEDICAL REVIEW. 8. HVT/SM PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: AS HVT TEAMANTICIPATED, SUBJECT APPEARS INTENT ON MAXIMIZINGHIS TALK-TIME WITH DEBRIEFERS. AND OTHERHVT TEAMMEMBERSBELIEVE THAT SUBJECT'S EXPERIENCE WITH ENHANCED MEASURESCONTRIBUTESTO ONGOINGSIGNIFICANT PSYCHOLOGICALPRESSURETO AVOID SITUATIONS ASSOCIATEDWITH THEIR IMPLEMENTATION. SUBJECT APPEARS MOTIVATEDTO ESPECIALLYAVOID THE WATERBOARD. SUBJECT ALSO APPEARS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT ATTEMPTS TO LIE AND MISLEAD WILL INCUR A COST THAT INVOLVESTHE IMPLEMENTATION OF ONE OR MOREENHANCED MEASURES. HE ALSO HAS BEEN TOLD AND UNDERSTANDSTHAT SELF-CORRECTIONSWILL NOT RESULT IN SUCH COSTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SUBJECT WAS REMINDEDTHAT INTERROGATORS WERE GOING TO KEEP THEIR WORDAND IMPOSE AN ENHANCEDMEASUREBECAUSETHE SUBJECT HAD ATTEMPTEDTO MISLEAD ON A PARTICULARISSUE UNTIL CONFRONTEDBY INTERROGATORS. SUBJECT WASOFFERED THE CHOICE OF THE WATERBOARD OR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION" AND SUBJECT IMMEDIATELY TURNEDAWAYFROMHIS CELL DOORAND APPROPRIATELYPOSITIONED HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOMFOR "STANDINGSLEEP DEPRIVATION". OVERALL, THE SUBJECT DISPLAYEDACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH INTERROGATORS AND WILLINGNESS TO RESPONDTO, AND EVEN ELABORATEON, QUESTIONSRELATED TO POSSIBLE THREATS (PLANS, TARGETS, AND PEOPLE) TO THE UNITED STATES. HVT TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION THAT TDY DEBRIEFERS ALLOWSUBJECT TIME TO RESPONDTO ONE QUESTIONAT A TIME, EVEN IF IT MEANSLONG PERIODS OF SILENCE, HAS DECREASEDSUBJECT'S CONFUSIONAND/OR ABILITY TO AVOID DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. DURING TODAY'S SESSIONS, SUBJECT REMAINEDFULLY ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND ENGAGEDWITH INTERROGATORS. HIS SPEECH WAS STEADY, ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND APPROPRIATETO CONTEXT. SUBJECT'S THOUGHTPROCESSES APPEAREDINTACT, PER GROSS EVALUATION. THERE WERENO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT ~---~ \. E~M_o_TI_o_N_AL_o_R_Ps_Y_c_H_OL_OG_ICAL __ HARM __ · ________ (b)(1) ____ ~ (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 (b)( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354 ~___ ~ (b)(1) _______ (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct END OF MESSAGE TOP Sl!l€!RB'f Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06669354