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KSM cable C06676662
Sep. 10, 2019
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Date:
20030317
TO: DIRECTOR
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SUBJECT:
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INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD
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TEXT:
1.
ACTION REQUIR~D:
2.
ATMOSPHERICS:
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NONE, FYI.
ON 16 MARCH 2003
( (KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD))(KSM) WAS
INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS
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CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING T~E SESSIONS.
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Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06676662
Date:
20030317
TO: DIRECTOR
FROM:
SUBJECT:
(b)(1)
EYES ONLY - 16 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD
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IMMEDIATE DIRECTOR.
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SUBJECT:
EYES ONLY - 16 MARCH 2003
INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH
MUHAMMAD
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TEXT:
1.
ACTION REQUIR~D:
2.
ATMOSPHERICS:
. ·A.
NONE, FYI.
ON 16 MARCH 2003
( (KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD))(KSM) WAS
INTERROGATED BY HVT INTERROGATORS
~-------------~-AL_E_C_T_D_Y-ER_S
________________
~----7
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CONDUCTEDDETAILED DEBRIEFING OF KSM DURING T~E SESSIONS.
Approved for Release: 2017/12/27 C06676662
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B.
KSM PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ON HASSAN ( (GHUL) ) AND
OTHER AL-QA'IDA
PERSONALITIES.
AS. PREVIOUSLY, KSM WAS RESPONSIVE IN
DISCUSSING THE NON-THREATENING QUESTIONS.
ANY.DISCUSSION
INTERESTS.
HE CONTINUED TO PROTECT
OF US TARGETS OR IMMINENT ATTACKS AGAINST US
HE ATTEMPTED TO MISDIRECT WHEN ASKED TO LIST TARGETS IN
THE US WHICH COULD BE ATTACKED, AND WAS GIVEN PAPER AND A PRISON PEN
AND TOLD TO LIST ALL THE TARGETS IN THE US WHICH HAD BEEN APPROVED BY
USAMA ( (BIN LADIN) ) .
C.
AT .THE SECOND MEETING KSM PRESENTED HIS LIST,
INTERROGATORS AND DEBRIEFERS DISCUSSED WITH HIM.
REPORTED IN INTEL TRAFFIC)
WHICH
(INFORMATION
HADNO
KSM CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN THAT HE
PLANNED TARGETS IN THE US WHICH WERE PENDING ATTACK, THAT HE HAD BEEN
CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING THE AL-QA.'IDA FAMILIES SINCE 9/11,
AFTER 9/11
THE US HAD BECOME TOO
HARDA
REVERTED TO HIS STANDARD STORY THAT JOSE
((REID))
TARGET.
INFILTRATE,INTO
WHEN PRESSED,
((PADILLA))
HAD BEEN THE LAST OPERATIVES AL-QA'IDA
AND THAT
KSM.
AND RICHARD
HAD ATTEMPTED TO
THE US, AND THAT KSM HAD NO OPERATIVES IN THE US AT
THIS TIME.
D.
INTERROGATORS TOLD KSM THAT HE WAS' ONLY PROLONGING HIS
PROBLEMS, AND THEY WOULDCONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IMMINENT THREATS TO THE
US UNTIL HE ANSWEREDTHE QUESTION SATISFACTORILY.
KSM WAS TAKEN TO
THE WATER BOARD, WHERE HE BEGGED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
WHEN
ALLOWED TO TALK, HE REPEATED HIS SAME STORY THAT HE HAD TOLD
EVERYTHING.
AT ONE POINT DURING THE INTERROGATION, INTERROGATORS
TOLD KSM THAT HE WAS EITHER STUPID AND INCOMPETENT AS THE CHIEF OF
EXTERNAL OPERATIONS OF AL-QA'IDA,
OR THAT HE WAS LYING WHEN HE SAID
HE HAD NO PENDING OPERATIONS AGAINST THE US.
ON THE WATER BOARD,
WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS CURRENT PLANS AGAINST THE. US, KSM SAID,
HAVE ANY. I'M
3.
"I DON'T
STUPID."
ENHANCED MEASURES:
PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF REF B,
APPROPRIATE MEDICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PERSONNEL WERE PRESENT.
ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES FOR KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD
WERE
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1
(b)( 3 )
(b)(3)
AUTHORIZED BY REF B., AUTHORIZED TO BE EMPLOYED BY CERTIFIED
CIAActINTERROGAToRs ~-------------------NatSecAct
THE FOLLOWING ENHANCED MEASURES WERE EMPLOYED BY
FACIAL
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(b)(3)
(b)(3)
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GRASP, WALLING, ATTENTION GRASP, INSULT- SLAP.
4.
(b)(1)
(b)(3)
(b)(3)
WATER BOARD:
IN ONE SESSION ON 16 MARCH 2003,
KHALID SHAYKH
MUHAMMAD
WAS SUBJECTED TO THE WATER BOARD BY INTERROGATORS
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5.
ASSESSMENT:
AL-QA'IDA
CONUS.
KSM CONTINUES TO PROTECT ANY INFORMATION ON
PLANS, CAPABILITIES,
PERSONNEL, AND OPERATIONS AGAINST
OF NOTE IS THAT KSM ALWAYS OFFERS THE SAME MANTRAWHEN ASKED
ABOUT ATTACKS PLANNED AGAINST THE US - HIS EFFORTS FOR FOLLOW-ON
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B.
KSM PROVIDED SOME INFORMATION ON HASSAN ( (GHUL) ) AND
OTHER AL-QA'IDA
PERSONALITIES.
AS. PREVIOUSLY, KSM WAS RESPONSIVE IN
DISCUSSING THE NON-THREATENING QUESTIONS.
ANY.DISCUSSION
INTERESTS.
HE CONTINUED TO PROTECT
OF US TARGETS OR IMMINENT ATTACKS AGAINST US
HE ATTEMPTED TO MISDIRECT WHEN ASKED TO LIST TARGETS IN
THE US WHICH COULD BE ATTACKED, AND WAS GIVEN PAPER AND A PRISON PEN
AND TOLD TO LIST ALL THE TARGETS IN THE US WHICH HAD BEEN APPROVED BY
USAMA ( (BIN LADIN) ) .
C.
AT .THE SECOND MEETING KSM PRESENTED HIS LIST,
INTERROGATORS AND DEBRIEFERS DISCUSSED WITH HIM.
REPORTED IN INTEL TRAFFIC)
WHICH
(INFORMATION
HADNO
KSM CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN THAT HE
PLANNED TARGETS IN THE US WHICH WERE PENDING ATTACK, THAT HE HAD BEEN
CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING THE AL-QA.'IDA FAMILIES SINCE 9/11,
AFTER 9/11
THE US HAD BECOME TOO
HARDA
REVERTED TO HIS STANDARD STORY THAT JOSE
((REID))
TARGET.
INFILTRATE,INTO
WHEN PRESSED,
((PADILLA))
HAD BEEN THE LAST OPERATIVES AL-QA'IDA
AND THAT
KSM.
AND RICHARD
HAD ATTEMPTED TO
THE US, AND THAT KSM HAD NO OPERATIVES IN THE US AT
THIS TIME.
D.
INTERROGATORS TOLD KSM THAT HE WAS' ONLY PROLONGING HIS
PROBLEMS, AND THEY WOULDCONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IMMINENT THREATS TO THE
US UNTIL HE ANSWEREDTHE QUESTION SATISFACTORILY.
KSM WAS TAKEN TO
THE WATER BOARD, WHERE HE BEGGED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
WHEN
ALLOWED TO TALK, HE REPEATED HIS SAME STORY THAT HE HAD TOLD
EVERYTHING.
AT ONE POINT DURING THE INTERROGATION, INTERROGATORS
TOLD KSM THAT HE WAS EITHER STUPID AND INCOMPETENT AS THE CHIEF OF
EXTERNAL OPERATIONS OF AL-QA'IDA,
OR THAT HE WAS LYING WHEN HE SAID
HE HAD NO PENDING OPERATIONS AGAINST THE US.
ON THE WATER BOARD,
WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS CURRENT PLANS AGAINST THE. US, KSM SAID,
HAVE ANY. I'M
3.
"I DON'T
STUPID."
ENHANCED MEASURES:
PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF REF B,
APPROPRIATE MEDICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PERSONNEL WERE PRESENT.
ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES FOR KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD
WERE
(b )( )
1
(b)( 3 )
(b)(3)
AUTHORIZED BY REF B., AUTHORIZED TO BE EMPLOYED BY CERTIFIED
CIAActINTERROGAToRs ~-------------------NatSecAct
THE FOLLOWING ENHANCED MEASURES WERE EMPLOYED BY
FACIAL
(b )( 1)
(b)(3)
(b)(3)
CIAAct
NatSecAct
GRASP, WALLING, ATTENTION GRASP, INSULT- SLAP.
4.
(b)(1)
(b)(3)
(b)(3)
WATER BOARD:
IN ONE SESSION ON 16 MARCH 2003,
KHALID SHAYKH
MUHAMMAD
WAS SUBJECTED TO THE WATER BOARD BY INTERROGATORS
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5.
ASSESSMENT:
AL-QA'IDA
CONUS.
KSM CONTINUES TO PROTECT ANY INFORMATION ON
PLANS, CAPABILITIES,
PERSONNEL, AND OPERATIONS AGAINST
OF NOTE IS THAT KSM ALWAYS OFFERS THE SAME MANTRAWHEN ASKED
ABOUT ATTACKS PLANNED AGAINST THE US - HIS EFFORTS FOR FOLLOW-ON
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OPERATIONS AFTER 9/11
RICHARD REID.
POST-9/11
STARTED AND STOPPED WITH JOSE PADILLA AND
KSM REFUSES TO -DISCUSS WHETHER AL-QA'IDA
BY PRE-POSITIONING
PREPARED FOR
PERSONNEL IN THE US.
THE
CONDITIONING OF THE INTERROGATION PROCESS IS PROCEEDING, HOWEVER, AND
HIS DEFENSES MAY BE WEAKENING.
THE DREAD OF THE WATER BOARD HAS
INCREASED SO THAT HE WHIMPERS AND PLEADS WHENEVERIT IS THREATENED.
HE APPEARS ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE
BETWEEN THE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS AND
THE HARD INTERROGATION SESSIONS,
AND CONTINUES TO BE RESPONSIVE WHEN
DEBRIEFED. ABOUT NON-US INFORMATION.
6.
PLANS:
HVTI TEAM PLANS TO INCREASE THE PRESSURE ON KSM BY
RESTARTING THE SLEEP DEPRIVATION (SLEEP DEPRIVATION INITIATED
MARCH 2?03
AT 1800)
BY A POSSIBLE
17 MAR WATER BOARD SESSION.
WATER BOARD SESSION,
AFTER RECOVERING FROM THE
KSM WILL BE PLACED IN THE STANDING SLEEP
DEPRIVATION POSITION.
DEBRIEFERS,
ON 16
AND MAINTAINING THE HARD INTERROGATIONS, FOLLOWED
TO INSURE KSM REMAINS RESPONSIVE TO THE ALEC
THE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WILL BE FENCED AND WILL NOT BE
FOCUSED TO RESULT IN A NON-RESPONSE, FOLLOWEDBY THE W~TER BOARD ON
THE NON-RESPONSE.
HARD INTERROGATION SESSIONS WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE
US THREAT AND WILL BE REINFORCED BY ENHANCEDMEASURES AND THE WATER
(b)(1)
BOARD,
(b)(3) CIAAct
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IF KSM REMAINS UNRESPONSIVE.
MEDICAL OBSERVATIONS:
SEE SEPARATE MEDICAL REVIEW
~---~
ON NINTH SESSION WITH KSM.
8.
SM PSYCHOLOGIST COMMENTS: SUBJECT CONTINUES TO APPEAR
ALERT, STEADY, FAIRLY STRONG, AND COMPOSED DURING DEBRIEFING AND
INTERROGATION SESSIONS..
IN ADDITION,
HE CONTINUES TO USE SEVERAL
RESISTANCE STRATEGIES WHEN CONFRONTEDWITH QUESTIONS ADDRESSING
DIRECT THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES..
SPECIFICALLY,
HE SEEMS TO RELY
ON DENIAL OF ACCESS AND KNOWLEDGE.,LACK OF APPROPRIATELY DOCUMENTED
AND TRAINED OPERATORS, AND ARGUMENTSTHAT POST-9/11
DIFFICULT
A TARGET.
AMERICA IS TOO
THE FEW TIMES SUBJECT HAS MADE LONG PAUSES AND
APPEARED SPEECHLESS HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH BLUNT QUESTIONS ABOUT
HIS KNOWLEDGEOF PREPARATION FOR AND TARGETS OF CURRENT OPERATIONS
AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.
SUBJECT UNDERWENTA WATER BOARD SESSION
IN THE LATE AFTERNOON FOLLOWING HIS REFUSAL TO OFFER NEW INFORMATION
ABOUT THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES OR TO PRESENT A REASONABLE
EXPLANATION FOR WHY HE WOULDN'T KNOWABOUT SUCH OPERATIONS.
WHINED AND WIMPERED AS HE WAS LED TO THE WATER BOARD.
SUBJECT
IN ADDITION,
HE CONTINUED TO TALK WITH INTERROGATORS AND PLEAD HIS IGNORANCE WHILE
ON THE WATER BOARD..
THE INTERRROGATORS CONTINUED TO EMPHASIZE THAT
THE PROCESS WOULD END IMMEDIATELY IF SUBJECT WAS FORTHCOMINGABOUT
HIS,
USAMA'S,
STATES.
OR OTHERS' _CURRENT OPERATIONS AGAINST THE UNITED
ALTHOUGH HIS EFFECTIVENESS IS MARKEDLYDIMINISHED,
SUBJECT
STILL MAKES ATTEMPTS TO USE COUNTER MEASURES TO AMELIORATE THE WATER
BOARD PROCESS.
SUBJECT CONTINUES TO SHOW INCREASED EMOTION AND
DISCOMFORT WHILE ON THE WATER BOARD.
PER TODAY'S OBSERVATIONS, THERE
ARE NO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUND OR PERMANENT EMOTIONAL OR
PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM.
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OPERATIONS AFTER 9/11
RICHARD REID.
POST-9/11
STARTED AND STOPPED WITH JOSE PADILLA AND
KSM REFUSES TO -DISCUSS WHETHER AL-QA'IDA
BY PRE-POSITIONING
PREPARED FOR
PERSONNEL IN THE US.
THE
CONDITIONING OF THE INTERROGATION PROCESS IS PROCEEDING, HOWEVER, AND
HIS DEFENSES MAY BE WEAKENING.
THE DREAD OF THE WATER BOARD HAS
INCREASED SO THAT HE WHIMPERS AND PLEADS WHENEVERIT IS THREATENED.
HE APPEARS ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE
BETWEEN THE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS AND
THE HARD INTERROGATION SESSIONS,
AND CONTINUES TO BE RESPONSIVE WHEN
DEBRIEFED. ABOUT NON-US INFORMATION.
6.
PLANS:
HVTI TEAM PLANS TO INCREASE THE PRESSURE ON KSM BY
RESTARTING THE SLEEP DEPRIVATION (SLEEP DEPRIVATION INITIATED
MARCH 2?03
AT 1800)
BY A POSSIBLE
17 MAR WATER BOARD SESSION.
WATER BOARD SESSION,
AFTER RECOVERING FROM THE
KSM WILL BE PLACED IN THE STANDING SLEEP
DEPRIVATION POSITION.
DEBRIEFERS,
ON 16
AND MAINTAINING THE HARD INTERROGATIONS, FOLLOWED
TO INSURE KSM REMAINS RESPONSIVE TO THE ALEC
THE DEBRIEFING SESSIONS WILL BE FENCED AND WILL NOT BE
FOCUSED TO RESULT IN A NON-RESPONSE, FOLLOWEDBY THE W~TER BOARD ON
THE NON-RESPONSE.
HARD INTERROGATION SESSIONS WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE
US THREAT AND WILL BE REINFORCED BY ENHANCEDMEASURES AND THE WATER
(b)(1)
BOARD,
(b)(3) CIAAct
(b)(3) NatSecAct1.
IF KSM REMAINS UNRESPONSIVE.
MEDICAL OBSERVATIONS:
SEE SEPARATE MEDICAL REVIEW
~---~
ON NINTH SESSION WITH KSM.
8.
SM PSYCHOLOGIST COMMENTS: SUBJECT CONTINUES TO APPEAR
ALERT, STEADY, FAIRLY STRONG, AND COMPOSED DURING DEBRIEFING AND
INTERROGATION SESSIONS..
IN ADDITION,
HE CONTINUES TO USE SEVERAL
RESISTANCE STRATEGIES WHEN CONFRONTEDWITH QUESTIONS ADDRESSING
DIRECT THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES..
SPECIFICALLY,
HE SEEMS TO RELY
ON DENIAL OF ACCESS AND KNOWLEDGE.,LACK OF APPROPRIATELY DOCUMENTED
AND TRAINED OPERATORS, AND ARGUMENTSTHAT POST-9/11
DIFFICULT
A TARGET.
AMERICA IS TOO
THE FEW TIMES SUBJECT HAS MADE LONG PAUSES AND
APPEARED SPEECHLESS HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH BLUNT QUESTIONS ABOUT
HIS KNOWLEDGEOF PREPARATION FOR AND TARGETS OF CURRENT OPERATIONS
AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.
SUBJECT UNDERWENTA WATER BOARD SESSION
IN THE LATE AFTERNOON FOLLOWING HIS REFUSAL TO OFFER NEW INFORMATION
ABOUT THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES OR TO PRESENT A REASONABLE
EXPLANATION FOR WHY HE WOULDN'T KNOWABOUT SUCH OPERATIONS.
WHINED AND WIMPERED AS HE WAS LED TO THE WATER BOARD.
SUBJECT
IN ADDITION,
HE CONTINUED TO TALK WITH INTERROGATORS AND PLEAD HIS IGNORANCE WHILE
ON THE WATER BOARD..
THE INTERRROGATORS CONTINUED TO EMPHASIZE THAT
THE PROCESS WOULD END IMMEDIATELY IF SUBJECT WAS FORTHCOMINGABOUT
HIS,
USAMA'S,
STATES.
OR OTHERS' _CURRENT OPERATIONS AGAINST THE UNITED
ALTHOUGH HIS EFFECTIVENESS IS MARKEDLYDIMINISHED,
SUBJECT
STILL MAKES ATTEMPTS TO USE COUNTER MEASURES TO AMELIORATE THE WATER
BOARD PROCESS.
SUBJECT CONTINUES TO SHOW INCREASED EMOTION AND
DISCOMFORT WHILE ON THE WATER BOARD.
PER TODAY'S OBSERVATIONS, THERE
ARE NO INDICATIONS OF ANY PROFOUND OR PERMANENT EMOTIONAL OR
PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM.
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