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Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 DATE: 27 MAR 03 TO: DIRECTOR SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 26 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD ---------------------------------------- BODY (b )( 1) -----(b)(3) CIAAct---------------------(b)(3) NatSecAct I (b)(3) NatSecAc..=t ===------------~~~~~~~~~~~=-___J I TOP !!:e1un (b)(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) NatSecActL- __________________ _____, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------PAGE 001 -'-I ---~ (b)(3) NatSecAct 211034z MAR 03 (b)(1) I 11026 (b)(1) --- - - - ------- -- -- - - --- ------ - --- - - ------------ - ----(b)(3) CIAAct------------(b)(3) CIAActp s 13 e A ii T 271008Z MAR 03 STAFF (b)(3) NatSecAct --- (b)(3) NatSecAct~ __J11026 1 TO: IMMEDIATEDIRECTOR. FOR: (b)(1) L._____J~(b)(3) CIAAct'____________ ____ (b)(3) NatSecAct..__ ______ SUBJECT: REF: EYES ONLY - 26 MARCH 2003 MUHAMMAD A. DIRECTOR a. DIRECTOR ___J ~ INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct TEXT: 1. ACTION REQUIRED: NONE, FYI. 2. SUMMARY: ON 26 MARCH 2003 ((KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS DEBRIEFED BY ALEC TDYERSL..___________ _j KSM APPEARED RESTED AND WAS PERCEPTIVELY LESS RESPONSIVE THAN THE Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct
Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 DATE: 27 MAR 03 TO: DIRECTOR SUBJECT: EYES ONLY - 26 MARCH 2003 INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD ---------------------------------------- BODY (b )( 1) -----(b)(3) CIAAct---------------------(b)(3) NatSecAct I (b)(3) NatSecAc..=t ===------------~~~~~~~~~~~=-___J I TOP !!:e1un (b)(3) NatSecAct (b)(3) NatSecActL- __________________ _____, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------PAGE 001 -'-I ---~ (b)(3) NatSecAct 211034z MAR 03 (b)(1) I 11026 (b)(1) --- - - - ------- -- -- - - --- ------ - --- - - ------------ - ----(b)(3) CIAAct------------(b)(3) CIAActp s 13 e A ii T 271008Z MAR 03 STAFF (b)(3) NatSecAct --- (b)(3) NatSecAct~ __J11026 1 TO: IMMEDIATEDIRECTOR. FOR: (b)(1) L._____J~(b)(3) CIAAct'____________ ____ (b)(3) NatSecAct..__ ______ SUBJECT: REF: EYES ONLY - 26 MARCH 2003 MUHAMMAD A. DIRECTOR a. DIRECTOR ___J ~ INTERROGATION OF KHALID SHAYKH (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct TEXT: 1. ACTION REQUIRED: NONE, FYI. 2. SUMMARY: ON 26 MARCH 2003 ((KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS DEBRIEFED BY ALEC TDYERSL..___________ _j KSM APPEARED RESTED AND WAS PERCEPTIVELY LESS RESPONSIVE THAN THE Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b )(3) NatSecAct
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Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 PREVIOUS SESSION. INTERROGATORS EXPLAINED HIS SITUATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH HIS OPTIONS, AND DIRECTED MORE COMPLETE RESPONSES. AT A LATE SESSION KSM WAS DEBRIEFED FOR IMMEDIATE THREAT INFORMATION. WAS MORE RESPONSIVE, 3. HE BUT MAY STILL BE WITHHOLDING SOME INFORMATION. ATMOSPHERICS: A. AT THE START OF THE INTERROGATION DAY, ((KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS DEBRIEFED BY ALEC SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AND CONTINUED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. KSM HAD A COMPLETE NIGHT'S SLEEP, AND HE STARTED OFF IN A SOMEWHATGROGGYMODE. B. AS THE INTERROGATION DAY PROGRESSED KSM BECAME MORE RESPONSIVE AND PROVIDED IDENTIFICATION AL-( (BRITANI)) AND~-------------~ SEPARATE TRAFFIC). EVEN WHEN NOT BEING DEBRIEFED, (REPORTED IN KSM CONTINUED TO STILL APPARENTLY SUFFERING FROMTHE WRITE ON HIS ASSIGNED TOPICS. SLEEP DEPRIVATION, (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct DATA ON ABU ISSA KSM ALTERNATED BETWEEN CATNAPS AND WORKING ON THE WRITTEN ASSIGNMENTS. C. AT A LATER SESSION, DEBRIEFERS FOUND KSM SOMEWHATLESS THAN RESPONSIVE BECAUSE HE HAD FAILED TO WORKON HIS ASSIGNED WRITTEN TOPIC, BUT HAD CHOSEN TO CONTINUE WRITING ON A PREVIOUS TOPIC. HVT ~ INTERROGATORsc_____________________ INTERVENED AND HAD A HEART-TO-HEART TALK WITH KSM. ~--- (b)(1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct INTERROGATORS POINTED OUT THAT KSM HAD TO CONTINUE PROVIDING NEW AND COMPLETE INFORMATION, OR HE WOULDRETURN TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS. KSM INDICATED HE UNDERSTOOD FULLY, AND DID NOT WANT TO REGRESS. KSM COMPLAINED THAT HE WAS EXPECTED TO KNOWEVERYTHING, AND THAT HE WAS BEING TRUTHFUL WHEN HE CLAIMED NO SPECIFIC QUESTION. KNOWLEDGEIN RESPONSE TO A KSM SAID HE BECAME FRUSTRATED WHEN HE DID NOT KNOWTHE ANSWER TO A QUESTION AND WAS TOLD HE WAS LYING BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWNIT. INTERROGATORS TOLD KSM THEY KNEWHE WAS CONTINUING TO HOLD BACK INFORMATION, AND THAT HIS JOB WAS TO PROVIDE COMPLETE ANSWERS OR A CREDIBLE REASON WHY HE DID NOT KNOWTHE ANSWER TO A SPECIFIC QUESTION. INTERROGATORS EMPHASIZED THAT IF.KSM WERE DEEMED TO BE WITHHOLDING OR LYING, HE WOULDBE RETURNED TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS - NO QUESTIONS ASKED. D. AT A LATER SESSION LASTING UNTIL 2400, KSM WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT IMMEDIATE THREAT INFORMATION REGARDING THREE WAVES OF AL-QA'IDA MAINTAINED HE HAD NO SPECIFIC ATTACKS AGAINST THE US. KSM KNOWLEDGEOF THE PLANS DISCUSSED, THAT HE HAD PROVIDED WHAT HE KNEWABOUT PLANNED OR PROJECTED OPERATIONS AGAINST THE US. 3. ENHANCEDMEASURES: 4. WATERBOARD: NONE. 5. ASSESSMENT: NONE UTILIZED THIS SESSION. KSM CONTINUED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AS HE Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 BUT (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 PREVIOUS SESSION. INTERROGATORS EXPLAINED HIS SITUATION TO HIM, ALONG WITH HIS OPTIONS, AND DIRECTED MORE COMPLETE RESPONSES. AT A LATE SESSION KSM WAS DEBRIEFED FOR IMMEDIATE THREAT INFORMATION. WAS MORE RESPONSIVE, 3. HE BUT MAY STILL BE WITHHOLDING SOME INFORMATION. ATMOSPHERICS: A. AT THE START OF THE INTERROGATION DAY, ((KHALID SHAYKH MUHAMMAD)) (KSM) WAS DEBRIEFED BY ALEC SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, AND CONTINUED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. KSM HAD A COMPLETE NIGHT'S SLEEP, AND HE STARTED OFF IN A SOMEWHATGROGGYMODE. B. AS THE INTERROGATION DAY PROGRESSED KSM BECAME MORE RESPONSIVE AND PROVIDED IDENTIFICATION AL-( (BRITANI)) AND~-------------~ SEPARATE TRAFFIC). EVEN WHEN NOT BEING DEBRIEFED, (REPORTED IN KSM CONTINUED TO STILL APPARENTLY SUFFERING FROMTHE WRITE ON HIS ASSIGNED TOPICS. SLEEP DEPRIVATION, (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct DATA ON ABU ISSA KSM ALTERNATED BETWEEN CATNAPS AND WORKING ON THE WRITTEN ASSIGNMENTS. C. AT A LATER SESSION, DEBRIEFERS FOUND KSM SOMEWHATLESS THAN RESPONSIVE BECAUSE HE HAD FAILED TO WORKON HIS ASSIGNED WRITTEN TOPIC, BUT HAD CHOSEN TO CONTINUE WRITING ON A PREVIOUS TOPIC. HVT ~ INTERROGATORsc_____________________ INTERVENED AND HAD A HEART-TO-HEART TALK WITH KSM. ~--- (b)(1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct INTERROGATORS POINTED OUT THAT KSM HAD TO CONTINUE PROVIDING NEW AND COMPLETE INFORMATION, OR HE WOULDRETURN TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS. KSM INDICATED HE UNDERSTOOD FULLY, AND DID NOT WANT TO REGRESS. KSM COMPLAINED THAT HE WAS EXPECTED TO KNOWEVERYTHING, AND THAT HE WAS BEING TRUTHFUL WHEN HE CLAIMED NO SPECIFIC QUESTION. KNOWLEDGEIN RESPONSE TO A KSM SAID HE BECAME FRUSTRATED WHEN HE DID NOT KNOWTHE ANSWER TO A QUESTION AND WAS TOLD HE WAS LYING BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWNIT. INTERROGATORS TOLD KSM THEY KNEWHE WAS CONTINUING TO HOLD BACK INFORMATION, AND THAT HIS JOB WAS TO PROVIDE COMPLETE ANSWERS OR A CREDIBLE REASON WHY HE DID NOT KNOWTHE ANSWER TO A SPECIFIC QUESTION. INTERROGATORS EMPHASIZED THAT IF.KSM WERE DEEMED TO BE WITHHOLDING OR LYING, HE WOULDBE RETURNED TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS - NO QUESTIONS ASKED. D. AT A LATER SESSION LASTING UNTIL 2400, KSM WAS QUESTIONED ABOUT IMMEDIATE THREAT INFORMATION REGARDING THREE WAVES OF AL-QA'IDA MAINTAINED HE HAD NO SPECIFIC ATTACKS AGAINST THE US. KSM KNOWLEDGEOF THE PLANS DISCUSSED, THAT HE HAD PROVIDED WHAT HE KNEWABOUT PLANNED OR PROJECTED OPERATIONS AGAINST THE US. 3. ENHANCEDMEASURES: 4. WATERBOARD: NONE. 5. ASSESSMENT: NONE UTILIZED THIS SESSION. KSM CONTINUED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AS HE Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 BUT (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct
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Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 ATTEMPTEDTO SOLIDIFY HIS IMPROVEDCONDITIONS. ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH MOREREST, KSMAPPEAREDPOSSIBLY TO BE ATTEMPTINGTO RE-DEVELOP A BASIC RESISTANCE STANCE. AS PREVIOUSLY, KSM PROVIDEDINFORMATION WHENHE THOUGHTDEBRIEFERS ALREADYHAD PART OF THE PICTURE, WHILE POSSIBLY WITHHOLDINGINFORMATIONWHICHHE THOUGHTHE COULDPROTECT. WHENPROVIDINGANSWERSTHAT WEREPROBABLYTRUTHFUL, KSM CONTINUEDHIS BEHAVIOROF SPEAKING IN A CONVERSATIONAL AND CASUALMANNER. WHEN APPARENTLYLYING OR WITHHOLDING,KSM CONTINUEDHIS EARLIER PATTERNOF LOOKINGDOWN,SLOWINGHIS ANSWERSAND SPEAKING PATTERN, AND FREQUENTLYBURPING NERVOUSLY. REGARDLESSOF HIS ATTEMPTSTO RENEWA POSSIBLE RESISTANCE STANCE, KSMGAVE EVERY INDICATION HE HAD NO DESIRE TO RETURNTO ACTIVE INTERROGATIONAND INTERROGATORS BELIEVE HE CAN BE DIRECTED AND ORIENTEDAPPROPRIATELY. 6. PLANS: INTERROGATORS WILL CONTINUETO INSURE KSM UNDERSTANDS FULLY THE CONSEQUENCES IF HE REGRESSESAND IS NOT FORTHCOMING WITH INFORMATION. AT THE FIRST VERIFIED SIGN OF LYING, INTERROGATORS WILL REACT VIGOROUSLYTO REMINDKSM OF HIS STATUS. KSM'S CONDITIONSWILL BE ADJUSTEDAPPROPRIATELYUNTIL HE RETURNSTO PROVIDING INFORMATION,AND WILL BE IMPROVEDAPPROPRIATELYAS HE DEMONSTRATES PROPER BEHAVIOR. 7. HVT PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: SUBJECT APPEAREDSOMEWHAT RESTED DURINGTODAY'S SESSIONS, AFTER GETTING AT LEAST FOUR HOURSOF SOUND SLEEP LAST NIGHT AND SOMEBRIEF NAPS BETWEENINTERROGATIONSESSIONS AND PERIODS OF WRITING. SUBJECT CONTINUESTO SPEAK AND WRITE IN A GENERALLYWELL-ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND METHODICALMANNER. IN ADDITION, HE CONTINUESTO BE ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND WILLING TO ENGAGE AND ANSWERQUESTIONS DURING INTERACTIONSWITH INTERROGATORS AND TOY DEBRIEFERS. THE EVENINGSESSION INCLUDEDTHE PRESENCEOF A NEWLY ARRIVED TOY DEBRIEFER. SUBJECT APPEAREDSOMEWHAT OFF BALANCE, FRUSTRATED,AND LESS FORTHCOMING AND RESPONSIVE. IT WASNOT CLEAR WHETHEROR NOT THIS BEHAVIORRESULTEDFROMRESISTANCE, GENUINE IGNORANCE,A REACTIONTO A NEWDEBRIEFING STYLE, OR SOME COMBINATION OF TWOOR MOREOF THESE ELEMENTS. TOMORROW'SSESSIONS SHOULDPROVIDE ENOUGHADDITIONALOBSERVATIONSTO ALLOWTHE HVTI TEAMMOREINSIGHT INTO SUBJECT'S BEHAVIOR. PER TODAY'S ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE NO INDICATIONS OF PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT EMOTIONALOR PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct END OF MESSAGE IOP !!:CJlt'!'f Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718
Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718 ATTEMPTEDTO SOLIDIFY HIS IMPROVEDCONDITIONS. ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH MOREREST, KSMAPPEAREDPOSSIBLY TO BE ATTEMPTINGTO RE-DEVELOP A BASIC RESISTANCE STANCE. AS PREVIOUSLY, KSM PROVIDEDINFORMATION WHENHE THOUGHTDEBRIEFERS ALREADYHAD PART OF THE PICTURE, WHILE POSSIBLY WITHHOLDINGINFORMATIONWHICHHE THOUGHTHE COULDPROTECT. WHENPROVIDINGANSWERSTHAT WEREPROBABLYTRUTHFUL, KSM CONTINUEDHIS BEHAVIOROF SPEAKING IN A CONVERSATIONAL AND CASUALMANNER. WHEN APPARENTLYLYING OR WITHHOLDING,KSM CONTINUEDHIS EARLIER PATTERNOF LOOKINGDOWN,SLOWINGHIS ANSWERSAND SPEAKING PATTERN, AND FREQUENTLYBURPING NERVOUSLY. REGARDLESSOF HIS ATTEMPTSTO RENEWA POSSIBLE RESISTANCE STANCE, KSMGAVE EVERY INDICATION HE HAD NO DESIRE TO RETURNTO ACTIVE INTERROGATIONAND INTERROGATORS BELIEVE HE CAN BE DIRECTED AND ORIENTEDAPPROPRIATELY. 6. PLANS: INTERROGATORS WILL CONTINUETO INSURE KSM UNDERSTANDS FULLY THE CONSEQUENCES IF HE REGRESSESAND IS NOT FORTHCOMING WITH INFORMATION. AT THE FIRST VERIFIED SIGN OF LYING, INTERROGATORS WILL REACT VIGOROUSLYTO REMINDKSM OF HIS STATUS. KSM'S CONDITIONSWILL BE ADJUSTEDAPPROPRIATELYUNTIL HE RETURNSTO PROVIDING INFORMATION,AND WILL BE IMPROVEDAPPROPRIATELYAS HE DEMONSTRATES PROPER BEHAVIOR. 7. HVT PSYCHOLOGISTCOMMENTS: SUBJECT APPEAREDSOMEWHAT RESTED DURINGTODAY'S SESSIONS, AFTER GETTING AT LEAST FOUR HOURSOF SOUND SLEEP LAST NIGHT AND SOMEBRIEF NAPS BETWEENINTERROGATIONSESSIONS AND PERIODS OF WRITING. SUBJECT CONTINUESTO SPEAK AND WRITE IN A GENERALLYWELL-ORGANIZED,GOAL-DIRECTED, AND METHODICALMANNER. IN ADDITION, HE CONTINUESTO BE ALERT, ATTENTIVE, AND WILLING TO ENGAGE AND ANSWERQUESTIONS DURING INTERACTIONSWITH INTERROGATORS AND TOY DEBRIEFERS. THE EVENINGSESSION INCLUDEDTHE PRESENCEOF A NEWLY ARRIVED TOY DEBRIEFER. SUBJECT APPEAREDSOMEWHAT OFF BALANCE, FRUSTRATED,AND LESS FORTHCOMING AND RESPONSIVE. IT WASNOT CLEAR WHETHEROR NOT THIS BEHAVIORRESULTEDFROMRESISTANCE, GENUINE IGNORANCE,A REACTIONTO A NEWDEBRIEFING STYLE, OR SOME COMBINATION OF TWOOR MOREOF THESE ELEMENTS. TOMORROW'SSESSIONS SHOULDPROVIDE ENOUGHADDITIONALOBSERVATIONSTO ALLOWTHE HVTI TEAMMOREINSIGHT INTO SUBJECT'S BEHAVIOR. PER TODAY'S ASSESSMENT, THERE ARE NO INDICATIONS OF PROFOUNDOR PERMANENT EMOTIONALOR PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM (b )( 1) (b)(3) CIAAct (b)(3) NatSecAct END OF MESSAGE IOP !!:CJlt'!'f Approved for Release: 2018/03/28 C06718718