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SDSG Integrated Analytics Workshop
Feb. 22, 2017
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SDSG Integrated Analytics Workshop (14 Oct 2011)
Palantir
Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Easy to share / publish knowledge amongst Collaboration capabilities less mature than
the analytical community
Mamba offering
Timeline capabilities are visually appealing
Analyst education about value and use of
target knowledge versus target data
Effective navigation through target
knowledge (right-click & explore around)
Dealing with high volumes and big indexes
Sensible division between searching
around entities for target knowledge and
searching for events or ‘raw’ data
Concern that the tool gives the analyst
greater potential for going down too many
analytical paths which could distract from the
intelligence requirement
Collaborative app and ‘step-back in
analytical path’ offers potential for sharing
tradecraft
Mindset change for analysts surrounding any
platform for analysis and collaboration
Easy to do data integration – quick to
deliver an 80% solution
Restricted potential (due to being commercial
product) – it develops how the owning
company want it to develop
Could take any data
Flexibility
Openness of commercial ‘black box’
Code could be better commented
Usability / intuitive interface appears to be a How many ‘versions’ of Palantir would the
strength (at least relatively)
company support?
International user community including SF
and DSD
Integration – with other platforms?
Tool responsiveness
Mature stage of development
User Interface and usability
Presentation capabilities
Accountability
Mamba
Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Talks to the vision (and thus is powerful)
Are hard coded-questions restrictive?
Great data integration
Usability, usability, usability
Has the potential to deliver more effective
and efficient QC’ing capability than current
systems provide
Appears to be fairly complex with a steep
learning curve
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SDSG Integrated Analytics Workshop (14 Oct 2011)
Palantir
Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Easy to share / publish knowledge amongst Collaboration capabilities less mature than
the analytical community
Mamba offering
Timeline capabilities are visually appealing
Analyst education about value and use of
target knowledge versus target data
Effective navigation through target
knowledge (right-click & explore around)
Dealing with high volumes and big indexes
Sensible division between searching
around entities for target knowledge and
searching for events or ‘raw’ data
Concern that the tool gives the analyst
greater potential for going down too many
analytical paths which could distract from the
intelligence requirement
Collaborative app and ‘step-back in
analytical path’ offers potential for sharing
tradecraft
Mindset change for analysts surrounding any
platform for analysis and collaboration
Easy to do data integration – quick to
deliver an 80% solution
Restricted potential (due to being commercial
product) – it develops how the owning
company want it to develop
Could take any data
Flexibility
Openness of commercial ‘black box’
Code could be better commented
Usability / intuitive interface appears to be a How many ‘versions’ of Palantir would the
strength (at least relatively)
company support?
International user community including SF
and DSD
Integration – with other platforms?
Tool responsiveness
Mature stage of development
User Interface and usability
Presentation capabilities
Accountability
Mamba
Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Talks to the vision (and thus is powerful)
Are hard coded-questions restrictive?
Great data integration
Usability, usability, usability
Has the potential to deliver more effective
and efficient QC’ing capability than current
systems provide
Appears to be fairly complex with a steep
learning curve
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Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Allows the analyst to filter the data prior to
Complexity – what skill levels would be
importing it onto the chart – means analysts necessary or could different levels of access
aren’t wasting time deleting
be matched to analyst skill levels
Potential for very intuitive exploration of
data and relationships between QFDs
Deliverability and complexity of eclipse userinterface
Strong on sharing of analysis
Challenge of uniform data models
Potential for on-line coaching via screen
sharing
Relative immature progress on graph change
Integration agenda – flexibility and
illustrates the art of the possible
Open architecture
Has the concept of a ‘hypothesis’
Offers good potential for bringing more
collaborative opportunities between Ops
and JTRIG
Rich layered model allows unique
navigation and viewing of details of the
events, especially multi-participant c2c
events
Mamba potentially offers greater potential
for closer sharing and collaboration with
NSA
Though currently doesn’t deliver this
Mamba and Palantir ‘summing-up’ feedback
“A completely commercial product, in this instance Palantir, is clearly more polished and
delivers more in terms of usability, compared with the in-house built offering (i.e. Mambabased products) which offers complete flexibility, arguably thus more potential but ‘Eclipse’
doesn’t sell simplicity.”
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External collaboration is at least as important as internal collaboration
Interoperability important between whatever tool(s) are progressed
A desire where at all possible to avoid local specialism (if the applications can support
that)
Concerns over what capabilities truly work at scale
Consider competition with tools already ‘bedded in’ in the business
Attendees acknowledge the best assessment is realised through using any capability
rather than demonstrations alone
Visual representation of the data is a key component to explore
Usability / complexity / polish will have an impact on the users
Could whichever tool have an ‘unlock’ application features based on analysts skill
level, hiding buttons and features until needed and capable of utilising
Experiment with diverse range of analysts, from Skill level 0 up to L3’s
Fully understand and consider the time necessary for analysts to change / take on
new tools and ways of working
Some concerns expressed that there is still a very real risk that as CDO / CDL roles continue
to develop across the 4th floor that such analysts will need to become users of a vastly
growing tool set and that decisions / agreements on tool choices and tool mix will be hard
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Opportunities & Strengths
Risks & challenges
Allows the analyst to filter the data prior to
Complexity – what skill levels would be
importing it onto the chart – means analysts necessary or could different levels of access
aren’t wasting time deleting
be matched to analyst skill levels
Potential for very intuitive exploration of
data and relationships between QFDs
Deliverability and complexity of eclipse userinterface
Strong on sharing of analysis
Challenge of uniform data models
Potential for on-line coaching via screen
sharing
Relative immature progress on graph change
Integration agenda – flexibility and
illustrates the art of the possible
Open architecture
Has the concept of a ‘hypothesis’
Offers good potential for bringing more
collaborative opportunities between Ops
and JTRIG
Rich layered model allows unique
navigation and viewing of details of the
events, especially multi-participant c2c
events
Mamba potentially offers greater potential
for closer sharing and collaboration with
NSA
Though currently doesn’t deliver this
Mamba and Palantir ‘summing-up’ feedback
“A completely commercial product, in this instance Palantir, is clearly more polished and
delivers more in terms of usability, compared with the in-house built offering (i.e. Mambabased products) which offers complete flexibility, arguably thus more potential but ‘Eclipse’
doesn’t sell simplicity.”
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•
•
•
•
•
•
•
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External collaboration is at least as important as internal collaboration
Interoperability important between whatever tool(s) are progressed
A desire where at all possible to avoid local specialism (if the applications can support
that)
Concerns over what capabilities truly work at scale
Consider competition with tools already ‘bedded in’ in the business
Attendees acknowledge the best assessment is realised through using any capability
rather than demonstrations alone
Visual representation of the data is a key component to explore
Usability / complexity / polish will have an impact on the users
Could whichever tool have an ‘unlock’ application features based on analysts skill
level, hiding buttons and features until needed and capable of utilising
Experiment with diverse range of analysts, from Skill level 0 up to L3’s
Fully understand and consider the time necessary for analysts to change / take on
new tools and ways of working
Some concerns expressed that there is still a very real risk that as CDO / CDL roles continue
to develop across the 4th floor that such analysts will need to become users of a vastly
growing tool set and that decisions / agreements on tool choices and tool mix will be hard
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A ?shared? decision going forward is needed
Concern over the data model implemented around the collated /fused data and how it
supports and integrates itself with a data model around conducting actual analysis and the
building of intelligence pictures
Performance of any application tool /framework is always a key consideration
Can any tool cope with the diversity of data types?
Vision and Principals (feedback)
No broad concerns over vision or principals
Action for ADS: But simplify vision and key principles
Action for ADS: Can the principals be condensed from its current two pages?
Action for ADS: Can it be shared more broadly, perhaps on GCwiki and linked to from these
workshop pages
IAC (feedbackl
Requires a clear future and decisions
Generic statements that could be considered Ops requirements:
More independence between front-end user-interfaces and the back-end data, i.e.
build service tiers (helps future proofing against new capabilities)
Easier linkages between social media collaborative tools applications) and the
tools applications that support analysis and data exploration
Don?t necessarily deliver the capability in the engineer?s current favourite technology
Usability for the ?whole? analyst community is key (avoid future kerfuf?es)
There is a need to really understand the user base amongst the analyst community
for any capability going forward
The CapDev community need to give quick assessments to ISD over particular new
capabilities, especially to ensure the right tool choices are made and roadmaps are
not stove-piped
Another concern
Concerns that the Olympic questions for Rumour Mill have not been broadly enough shared,
at least some attendees had not had visibility of them
Action: ADS to circulate (included in email with these minutes) and available atF
Attendees
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A ?shared? decision going forward is needed
Concern over the data model implemented around the collated /fused data and how it
supports and integrates itself with a data model around conducting actual analysis and the
building of intelligence pictures
Performance of any application tool /framework is always a key consideration
Can any tool cope with the diversity of data types?
Vision and Principals (feedback)
No broad concerns over vision or principals
Action for ADS: But simplify vision and key principles
Action for ADS: Can the principals be condensed from its current two pages?
Action for ADS: Can it be shared more broadly, perhaps on GCwiki and linked to from these
workshop pages
IAC (feedbackl
Requires a clear future and decisions
Generic statements that could be considered Ops requirements:
More independence between front-end user-interfaces and the back-end data, i.e.
build service tiers (helps future proofing against new capabilities)
Easier linkages between social media collaborative tools applications) and the
tools applications that support analysis and data exploration
Don?t necessarily deliver the capability in the engineer?s current favourite technology
Usability for the ?whole? analyst community is key (avoid future kerfuf?es)
There is a need to really understand the user base amongst the analyst community
for any capability going forward
The CapDev community need to give quick assessments to ISD over particular new
capabilities, especially to ensure the right tool choices are made and roadmaps are
not stove-piped
Another concern
Concerns that the Olympic questions for Rumour Mill have not been broadly enough shared,
at least some attendees had not had visibility of them
Action: ADS to circulate (included in email with these minutes) and available atF
Attendees
3of3
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