Photographs and video of heavily armed police officers wearing body armor and helmets arresting protesters in Baton Rouge over the weekend reverberated on social networks and in the world’s media, focusing new attention on the militarization of police forces across the United States.
The image that drew the most comment, taken by Jonathan Bachman for Reuters, showed a young woman in a dress standing serenely on a road outside the Baton Rouge police headquarters as two Louisiana State Police officers dressed for battle rushed to arrest her.
Ieshia Evans, a nurse from Brooklyn, was arrested on Saturday outside the Baton Rouge Police Department during a protest against the killing of Alton Sterling.
Photo: Jonathan Bachman/Reuters
The woman was later identified as Ieshia Evans, a nurse and mother from Brooklyn, who had come to protest the killing of Alton Sterling by two Baton Rouge police officers last week.
Baton Rouge PD looks ridiculous. I never wore so much armor in combat. This is their own community. (Photo: Reuters) pic.twitter.com/clCFFyD6jx
— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) July 10, 2016
This Reuters pic of a serene protestor in Baton Rouge brings to mind the Tank-Man in Tiananmen Square. pic.twitter.com/i8SES79Kco
— Gus Silber (@gussilber) July 10, 2016
Grace under pressure #BlackLivesMatter #BatonRouge #blm Photo by Jonathan Bachman/Reuters pic.twitter.com/uRwVTWNUSI
— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) July 10, 2016
When you see this image you think thank God America won the Cold War and defeated tyranny
(JONATHAN BACHMAN/REUTERS) pic.twitter.com/ryVd3lGqIw— Karl Sharro (@KarlreMarks) July 11, 2016
#BlackLivesMatter Iconic photo of Baton Rouge activist labelled 'legendary' https://t.co/vOSXXI84Zw pic.twitter.com/ModUWUg6cf
— Times of India (@timesofindia) July 12, 2016
Mugshot released of Ieshia Evans, 35, whose Baton Rouge protest pic went viral (Jonathan Bachman of @Reuters) pic.twitter.com/bX9YGIVGkO
— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 11, 2016
Evans, who was released on Sunday, wrote on Facebook that she had no desire to speak to the media until she could get home to her young son. “I appreciate the well wishes and love, but this is the work of God,” she added. “I am a vessel!”
She was one of 102 protesters arrested on Saturday night outside the police station on Airline Highway. Another of those detained and held overnight was DeRay Mckesson, a prominent Black Lives Matter activist, who was live-streaming video from the shoulder of the road when he was tackled by an officer.
.@deray was live streaming on #Periscope when he got arrested. Go to 4:00 https://t.co/q5JeQbPafJ
— Alex Medina (@mrmedina) July 10, 2016
Another photograph taken by Bachman, showing a police officer’s knee pinning an African-American protester’s head to the pavement, struck a chord with photo editors in Iran and Russia, where the crackdown on peaceful protesters made complaints from the United States government about repression of dissent in those countries seem hypocritical.
Jonathan Bachman of Reuters made another iconic photo from the Baton Rouge protests: pic.twitter.com/HHthNvfnV4
— Clayton Cubitt (@claytoncubitt) July 11, 2016
This is Iran's most conservative paper on violence in the US. (not sure where the pic is from) pic.twitter.com/CHo6bQ7Su4
— Arash Karami (@thekarami) July 11, 2016
Cops use @FBI #PolicePurge warning as license to crackdown on peaceful protests #BatonRougehttps://t.co/6iMQOjXuJI pic.twitter.com/Z6BFHVHXmv
— Sputnik (@SputnikInt) July 11, 2016
"American nightmare": From "land of opportunity" to killing field for young black men (including Kim Kardashian's) pic.twitter.com/qUv9IdtiBo
— Borzou Daragahi (@borzou) July 11, 2016
There were more arrests on Sunday, and more images of what looked like a clear mismatch between the threat of violence from protesters and the aggressive use of force by police officers confronting them.
Disperse or be arrested, police say pic.twitter.com/quc4F02ysd
— Rebekah Allen (@rebekahallen) July 10, 2016
A literal standoff. #AltonSterling pic.twitter.com/uz8z7ckzhV
— Rebekah Allen (@rebekahallen) July 10, 2016
Two young white woman arrested after they refused to move from in front of police vehicle. pic.twitter.com/o36kWamjsD
— Terry L Jones (@tjonesreporter) July 10, 2016
Swat car literally pushing crowd back pic.twitter.com/Z4GM5lEJpU
— Rebekah Allen (@rebekahallen) July 10, 2016
Look whats happening in Baton Rouge RNNoJusticeNoPeace #AltonSterling #BlackLivesMatter #BatonRouge pic.twitter.com/0wz54B0JqI
— liz (@lizzkatherine_) July 10, 2016
As the Baton Rouge Advocate reported, a demonstration in a residential neighborhood of the city on Sunday only got more heated when about 300 marchers were blocked by officers wearing gas masks and driving an armored vehicle with an ear-splitting sound cannon called an LRAD, or long-range acoustic device.
As the standoff got more tense, the protesters screamed, “They’re going to gas us,” and “Put down your guns,” video recorded at the scene showed.
Here's a photo of the police from earlier today. Again, from @chris_granger #AltonSterling pic.twitter.com/ohauQPNkIR
— Julia O'Donoghue (@JSODonoghue) July 11, 2016
Baton Rouge is not having it…wow???? pic.twitter.com/U1KcC6tIn8
— logizzle (@iRUNx_LA) July 10, 2016
BATON ROUGE HAS TURNED INTO SYRIA #AltonSterling #BlackLivesMatter #BatonRouge pic.twitter.com/LCwAyP1AJA
— liz (@lizzkatherine_) July 11, 2016
Tensions high in Baton Rouge as police clash with protesters wearing riot gear and gas masks pic.twitter.com/3KRN9NMKHa
— wynton yates (@WyntonYates) July 11, 2016
Crowd still chanting despite final warning from police. pic.twitter.com/AmFg3zm319
— Terry L Jones (@tjonesreporter) July 11, 2016
Eventually, there was a spate of forcible arrests, even of protesters who had retreated from the streets onto sidewalks and, in one case, into the front yard of a woman who tried to shelter them.
After 50 demonstrators were taken away, Lisa Batiste, the woman whose front yard was raided by the police, told the CBS News correspondent David Begnaud she was shocked and disappointed by the behavior of the police.
Baton Rouge home owner "very upset" after police storm her yard arresting protesters who had permission to be there pic.twitter.com/gwE8aRGKfL
— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 11, 2016
“It was extremely unnerving — the military-style policing,” Batiste told The Advocate later. “I just wanted them to have a safe place to voice their opinions.”
This isn't Baghdad. It's #BatonRouge.
What militarized police looks like. pic.twitter.com/u3SvJpf1Vi
— Khaled Bey (@KhaledBeydoun) July 11, 2016
State Police Superintendent Mike Edmonson later blamed the protesters, telling the New Orleans Times-Picayune that when ordered to disperse, “They seemed to have no intention of doing so in a peaceful manner.” Some of those who fled the scene then tossed lumps of concrete at his officers, he added.
“The bottom line is, this group was certainly not about a peaceful protest, because they could’ve easily left on their own,” Edmonson said.
He also called their anti-police chants a form of incitement. “The whole time when you sat there listening to them, their words were not conducive to a peaceful-type demonstration,” he said.
Marjorie Esman, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Louisiana, condemned the arrests as unlawful in a statement:
The Baton Rouge police used violent, militarized tactics on groups of people who have gathered peacefully in protest of Alton Sterling’s killing. We were on the scene and witnessed police in full riot gear with assault rifles while individuals were exercising their lawful rights and posed no threat. The police lunged and grabbed at peacefully assembled people and threw them to the ground. Such misconduct violates the constitution and is serving to escalate an environment already filled with tension.
We depend on the police to protect and serve everyone in our communities, to treat people fairly, to use violence only as the very last resort. But the Baton Rouge police have failed us. They failed when they encountered Alton Sterling. They failed when they lashed out at people protesting in peace.
The ACLU stands with the protesters in Baton Rouge and urges the police to honor our constitutional rights instead of stomping on them.
There were similar images of the apparent use of excessive force against Black Lives Matter protesters in other parts of the country. The arrest of one young woman late Friday in Rochester, New York, as she was giving an interview to a local news station, also drew widespread condemnation.
She literally did nothing pic.twitter.com/qaKrEB1X3y
— jack (@WISTERIAJACK) July 10, 2016
The journalist who filmed that arrest, Tara Grimes of TWC News Rochester, reported later that the police said dozens of protesters were arrested after unacceptable “verbal confrontations” between officers and demonstrators. Grimes also shared video of that protester scolding a line of officers in riot gear just before she was arrested.
This is needed to clarify previous video. This is what happened before the woman was arrested while we spoke w/ her pic.twitter.com/BRoOQzd4Xd
— Tara Grimes (@TaraTWCNews) July 9, 2016
“What you do speaks so loudly, I can’t hear what you’re saying,” Ralph Waldo Emerson.
Chief of Dallas Police Brown, articulate, highly regarded and
charismatic Dallas citizen could significantly move the nation’s police
forward. Remove those four-stars from the collar. These “stars” are
indicative of a military order.
As Chief Brown is well aware,
Civil Authority is functionally different from military authority. The
positing of civil authorized police as “quasi” military, by emulating
military dress/signage as in the four general stars, is a divisive
projection of civil police departments across the nation.
“Do” remove
this military regalia. No press announcement needed. Remove them, do
not wear them and pass the word to colleagues. Alleviating four-stars
is an initiating step to lessening the gap between community and civil
police. The regard with which the police community and “civil”
community would hold such a step-forward would not go unheeded.
War is a for killing. Soldiers kill. When cops become soldiers, they murder people.
This is why it has escalated from beating up Rodney King to killing people. Soldiers kill with impunity. It’s because the policies have been communicated to them already. They already believe they are in a war. They have a dominance and kill commission. They have orders to kill and to subdue with injurious or murderous force.
Military police are soldiers. Soliders obey orders, generals and follow war manuals. They get body count.
When the justice system does not intervene in domestic war making on US soil, they are complicit with general policy of war making. There are indirect hostilities being provoked and incrementally escalated to harm US citizens. Every civil war starts with a government destabilizing or singling out a couple of people groups as villains to pivot or redirect from apex power struggles taking place at the heights of the government.
Massive corruption was recently drowned out completely by 5 murdered cops. It wasn’t totally overlooked by the people watching that Hillary Clinton will be able to run for the highest office in the nation without the sword of an FBI arrest in her future. Obama indirectly pardoned her for her corruptions so we can have the binary option of ‘D’ to vote for.
That made a lot of people angry, but they haven’t taken to arms yet. Someone seems to want a war on US soil from inside the US government. However, I don’t think everyone is in agreement on that.
Welcome to V for Vendetta
hmm they want peace but are willing to adhere to laws backed by violenc e to get thier point across all the while wearing dept issued depends because they are in fear for their lives so let me point it out to the general public when a cop approaches you “YOU so be scared to death he might kill you . YOU should be in fear for your life once one of these Halloween costumed thugs attempts to contact you after all as we have seen in so many cases when you are in fear for your life and you kill some one its justified and there is hundreds of documented cases that will back you up
Am I the only one wondering to which extent it is them using turks or their turks using them?
RCL
You’re the only one who’s not staying on topic, while editing/chopping up people’s comments and posting them at the top of the thread; seemingly to pick and choose how you’d like to frame the discussion. Why is that??
Just so readers (and anyone else who is interested) is aware: The East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff’s Dept., in conjunction with federal ATF agents and the LA State Police, already explained on Tuesday that the extraordinary precautions taken by police forces from July 8th – 12th was due to “the real and viable threats against law enforcement” already reported by the mainstream media. As Sheriff Sid Gautreaux explained, “Several times, we’ve been asked… Why the show of force? We couldn’t say and wouldn’t say because of the investigation. But what you saw is because of the real and viable threats against law enforcement… Look what happened in Dallas: a very peaceful protest, and some crazy madman did what he did. We can’t take anything for granted anymore. Our goal has always been and always will be to protect and serve the public. All of the public, including those who peacefully protest, as is their right.”
Moreover, as State Police Commander Mike Edmonson explained, the protests on Sunday afternoon were nothing like those of the prior two days: “Those people were not here for a peaceful protest. They were trying to get on the Interstate, they were hurling bricks, pieces of concrete, they were injuring officers.”
Source: http://www.katc.com/story/32429405/raid-of-baton-rouge-home-connected-to-alleged-murder-plot-against-police; http://www.wbrz.com/news/timeline-alton-sterling-shooting-and-protests
Baton Rouge is living down to its name, which is French for ‘red stick’. The city of the blood-soaked billy club swings back into the past.
The’Land of the Free’, who are they kidding.
“I appreciate the well wishes and love, but this is the work of God,” she added. “I am a vessel!”
Vessel? Arrogant much?
“The ACLU stands with the protesters…”
That’s the problem. The ACLU should stand in court, so they can defend the protesters and defend the Constitution.
They can’t win either way. Rather these officers risk their lives and wear no protection if there is another crazy shooter? No, the current atmosphere it is ore for their lives than anything else. People will complain either way. Officers are there to protect and provide protection in an orderly civilized society.
Good luck fight any new wars in the name of democracy and freedom now!
Thank you. You should have started with that data.
As I remember, “woefully ignorant” is just an advervial phrase and I am not so sure if the implications of your statement are more ignorant than racist.
Here is a good start for you to sort it out yourself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis
Moreover. you can’t “merely” see you are not making sense.
Yes, my initial interpretation of your argument was not totally right, but …
still if you are trying to make sense of those figures, you will have to prorate them to the proportions in the general population. Read up on weighted probabilities
Are you talking about “political correctness” here, not statistics, right?
What do they say about? Terrorism? You see, the NSA was right after all.
RCL
“Thank you. You should have started with that data.” You’re welcome and I did…you just didn’t believe it (for some reason) so I cited it upon request.
“As I remember, “woefully ignorant” is just an adverbial phrase…” You remember incorrectly.
There’s no such thing as “*just* an adverbial phrase.” Adverbial phrases have a purpose and that purpose is to modify or describe verbs. This particular adverbial phrase directly describes what it takes to assume “that crime percentage should correlate to racial demography” -woeful ignorance. One would have to disregard all anthropologic understanding of human nature to assume such.
Null hypothesis has nothing to do with this. People do not commit crime in equal numbers according to race. Crime varies across cultures; and culture varies widely in the enormous United States. To constitute a certain racial percentage of the population in no way means that the same percentage of crime will be committed relative to racial demographic; thus the objection to the correlation is apt and your assertion of null hypothesis is unfounded and unsupported with reason.
“Moreover. you can’t ‘merely’ see you are not making sense.” Without supporting your assertion, you’re just being caustically argumentative while not proving your point. There’s nothing nonsensical about noting “that BLM is racially focused on only 25% of people killed by police.”
“Yes, my initial interpretation of your argument was not totally right, but …”
You didn’t ‘interpret my argument;’ you denied the data. You can’t be half pregnant; likewise you weren’t ‘partially’ wrong, you were completely wrong. Again, without the facts or knowledge of the data, you were totally comfortable criticizing my argument as ‘b#lls!t’ while being completely wrong in your claim. Those figures stand on their own to prove my point. Weighted probability is irrelevant. The assertion is that BLM segregates its focus, outrage, and importance solely by race; when clearly the issue is not limited to black people as proven by the 700 other dead people.
Take your lumps like an adult; you inserted your bias and spoke without knowledge.
“Are you talking about “political correctness” here, not statistics, right?” I’m not talking about either. I’m using real data to show that BLM segregates its focus, outrage, and importance solely by race; ergo BLM is inherently racist.
“What do they say about? Terrorism?” They don’t say anything about terrorism. What point are you trying to make???
Correction: you didn’t deny the data; you created your own data.
BREATHE DEEPLY WHEN ACCESSING YOUR EMOTIONS.
Move slowly and carefully through this world.
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The Hague rules that China has ‘no legal basis’ to claim resources in the South China Sea
The Tribunal also found that China had violated the Philippines’ sovereign rights and caused damage to marine life. By Priyanka Mogul July 12, 2016 10:32 BST
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/south-china-sea-dispute-hague-rules-no-legal-basis-china-claim-rights-resources-1570182
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NATO faces up to Russian challenge By Ian Brzezinski Tue July 12, 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/12/opinions/nato-summit-responds-to-russia-brzezinski/index.html
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OK, guys! Wake me up if you/we can when the “freedom loving“ starts. Why do they keep obfuscating about “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”?
Great Lord! Is it so hard to make up some b#llsh!t about China’s and/or Russia’s WMD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
Only a tiny amount of those WMD will be way more than we need to return to a little fart of dust in the unimaginably vast reaches of Universe. And, no, there will be no gringos or “freedom-loving” out there.
Yet, if after billions of years and a mind boggling chain of circumstances, if some sort of life as we know reappear somewhere, I am not so sure gringos won’t be there and think again of the world as their star-trek playground. But, hey! Billions of years without “freedom-loving”!
RCL
Take a guess which peace loving, tolerant country is teaching them this s**t?
It is already known that most law enforcement ppl are trained by trainers from Israel…they train ppl from several different countries. You saying there is a different country that claims that distinction?
The vetting process of people looking to work in their local police/law enforcement organization has a specific purpose and it doesn’t make sense. The process has been accepted and approved by BAR members/attorneys/judges to give those law enforcement personnel credibility in COURT. In other words those who are hired are elevated or are given an increased value of truth or their decisions are more reliable or more legitimate than civilians because of the vetting. Basically, our members of the Judicial branch and BAR members gave persons in law enforcement a pass to do things that are totally in conflict to the US Constitution. Members of the BAR occupy every level of government and every branch and it’s the members of the BAR who are the “legal consultants” used to review everything and advise. It doesn’t matter what the vetting process consists of because a foundational element of our country is that everyone is equal to each other, per the Declaration of Independence & US Constitution. It is this inequality that has created the current domestic instability and insecurity resulting in an unknown number of US citizens deaths. That is treason!
Getting the “legal clearance” to sell military equipment to local law enforcement organizations and not to civilians as well is treason. Civilians lacking the ability to adequately resist an armed force is no different than being under an occupying force, foreign or domestic. That is treason!
When will people understand how the BAR, whom has the regulatory authority over lawyers, has not only failed to discipline those who allowed unconstitutional acts and behavior while under their watch but supports unconstitutional acts and behavior with approving “law degree programs” for those looking to become a lawyer but can not unless they become a BAR member and to become a BAR member the law degree has to be approved and recognized by the BAR and by giving conferences, seminars, classes and the like for its members
What you describe is just a minor, necessary bureaucratic aspect of a police state. The funny thing is that the use “laws” to make it legal. What this article is talking about is the next natural step: militarizing the police.
As I pointed out some time ago, now we not only all live in Jerusalem, but they are extended Iraq all the way into the U.S.
RCL
You are totally correct; by giving policemen the status of gods and even calling them “police officers” while all other members of society are called “civilians” the BAR legitimizes their crimes. Civil war is around the corner.
America is now an occupied nation and the invading Army is home grown. The police are armed, trained and staffed by the American military and are every bit as lethal as ISIS. When I see citizens huddled on a lawn-clad in shorts and flip flops facing black clad robo cops armed with machine guns–I know which side I’m on. Dallas isn’t a set back–it’s blow back.
“The bottom line is, this group was certainly not about a peaceful protest, because they could’ve easily left on their own,” Edmonson said.
He also called their anti-police chants a form of incitement. “The whole time when you sat there listening to them, their words were not conducive to a peaceful-type demonstration,” he said.”
These people all have freedom of speech and freedom of assembly as long as they don’t actually try to exercise them. What’s wrong with them?
a 2004 Pentagon-commissioned report specified in listing the causes of terrorism: “American direct intervention in the Muslim world”; our “one-sided support in favor of Israel”; support for Islamic tyrannies in places like Egypt and Saudi Arabia; and, most of all, “the American occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.” The report concluded: “Muslims do not ‘hate our freedom,’ but rather, they hate our policies.” Countless individuals who carried out or plotted attacks on the West have said the same.
Nobody should need official reports or statements from attackers to confirm what common sense makes clear: If you go around the world for years proclaiming yourself “at war,” bombing and occupying and otherwise interfering in numerous countries for your own ends — as the U.S. and U.K. have been doing for decades, long before 9/11 —
A NEW WAR ZONE……because that is what Washington wants – our elected officials are not elected to militarize the police > > How many secret pentagon programs are involved?? Austerity – Poverty but the FED still feeds Wall Street
The police are afraid When they found harmless victims they became sadists. Reminds me of Chicago police riot at Democratic convention
It’s not clear to me in some of these photos if people are protesting on public or private property. In some photos people were actually blocking public roads. Also important to remember is the difference between peaceful protest and inciting a population to riot.
Sorry if I’m not ready to join the injustice circle jerk, I’ll wait until the facts are in on this one. I’m going to guess there are two sides to a lot of these pictures. In a lot of these scenarios the cops end up vindicated, but the public loses interest too quickly and all that’s left is the initial impression. Look at the Alton Sterling situation. As soon as it came out that he was a criminal sex offender who threatened a homeless man with a gun it was illegal for him to have (since he was on probation) no one wants to cover the story anymore. We’ll all remember it as a case of police brutality.
The US is a tough place to be right now… but for a lot of reasons.
Blinders on–life is good, eh? White?
NYPD = Terrorism
Twice n the last six months the New York City Police Department without warrants raided my apartment at gun-point after breaking its door.
Mayor William de Blasio and Police Commissioner William Bratton refused to investigate claiming that “no one was shot or killed”.
Who are the terrorists?
William–keep posting and learn how to live stream. When it happens again–show it to the world.
And cops wonder why people are beginning to shoot and kill them. Hell I have not idea…except maybe they are tired of having their constitutional rights violated.
Where is the “freedom loving” when we most need it?
How come they don’t send “patriots” there?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/11/iraq-us-troop-increase-isis-mosul
They say they are “fighting terrorism”.
Still?
RCL
Political repression. Activists should assume that they are having their phone, Facebook and other social media accounts monitored.
An angry email or tweet can be easily misinterpreted.
A Hungarian friend of mine asked why cops in the U.S. deal with protesters so brutally. It happens in other countries too, but here, if you block traffic it is cause for tear gas, concussion and flash-bang grenades, arrest, beatings, etc.
Traffic flow comes ahead of the 1st amendment in most cities.
For most Americans, cars are sacred and the “freedom to drive” is the most precious of their imagined freedoms.
They’d rather sit in a 20 mph traffic jam crawl for three hours than have someone (especially someone black, homeless, or otherwise undesirable) dare to block the road for a minute.
I heard on CNN recently that “law enforcement was there in Baton Rouge to protect protesters”. I think if there were no police present at the BLM protests thing would go much smoother.
Now you might understand why many of us don’t watch MSM. Lame reporting and you won’t find such drivel here.
It all invariably ends like that. There is some sort of inside cynical poetic justice to it to. At the end of the day “We the people” will clearly see the kind of “give them ‘cake'” contempt in which they hold us all, that they have never seen us as their equals in a society ruled by laws and “We the people” will be more able to understand “terrorists” in other countries.
They are making it as clear as possible! “Jeez! They still don’t get it. Wake up, ‘America’! Forget about all those silly ideas about laws, rights and such things. The U.S. has officially become a militaristic police state! You will do yourself a favor by getting it at once!”
First, let’s start by asking you from where did you get that data. Second, based on somewhat credible data
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States
percentage-wise blacks are from 2.5% of the current U.S. population to 8.8% claiming african ancestry (mixed races). So, let’s say that black folks are 10% of U.S. population, then you could claim that figure to be fair if only 100 black people had been killed by police, but it has been more than 2.5 times greater.
Third, as part of your “persuasive” b#llsh!t, you are making it seem like the rest of those people are white, which could make anyone sarcastically laugh. From those 742 individuals killed I would guess way more than half are Latino.
Fourth, what do statistics say about races in the country with the highest incarceration rate?
Last but not least, in the same way that “there are many ways to skin a cat”, there are “killings” and “killings” …
Many (most?) police constantly harass us. Philando Castile was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stopped-52-times-police-racial-profiling-052139197.html
Police say that “racial profiling” is just “common sense” (so, are you going to call them racist?). They say, they are “‘just’ doing their ‘work’”, police say, “It’s one of many, many ‘tools’ that we use.”
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/03/328120358/top-nypd-cop-stop-and-frisk-is-not-the-problem-or-the-solution
In fact, in places like NYC black and Latino folks live so “scared” of police brutality that most don’t seem to be able to digest very obvious jokes:
// __ Bloomberg Defends NYPD’s Controversial Stop And Kiss Program
youtube.com/watch?v=GXXaj–a6-4
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// __ Response -Bloomberg Defends NYPD’s Controversial Stop And Kiss Program
youtube.com/watch?v=WBy9Ltp8wNc
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Now, for white folks watching this and people that don’t know the U.S. well enough. You may find that stupid, incredible beyound belief because it is, but fear is more of a primal feeling and people are not that stupid, this is the result of constantly harassing them.
I grew up in an open, different police state, Cuba. People do hate the government there and know very well they are full of sh!t, but do not live in that kind of constant fear of being carelessly killed by police. You may find this silly.
// __ (7:33) Policeman fight with a drunk guy in Habana , Cuba,at a bus stop
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youtube.com/watch?v=3S50rfJndfE
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Could you imagine Julian Assange fist fighting police if they would come to arrest him?Notorious anti Castro blogger and media darling Yoany Sánchez was once arrested and fought a police officer. She even boasts about having grabbed his balls: “Yoani, semiasfixiada, apretó los testículos del atacante que la ahogaba. (Yoani, half-choked squeezed the testicles of the (police) attacker)” … something I don’t think would have saved Eric Gardner’s life.
publico.es/internacional/267745/la-policia-cubana-detiene-y-maltrata-a-yoani-sanchez
// __ Yoani Sánchez golpeada en La Habana
youtube.com/watch?v=umu5f6kdUhI
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From censuses to “laws” all forms of societal control mechanisms have been eventually abused.
I know, I know “‘the’ land of the ‘free’ and ‘the’ ‘brave’ …” is “exceptional”
RCL
{{{applause}}} for taking on the mob. ;)
Use all kinds of statistics from income, to general health, to life expectancy, to educational level, to access to government services, to areas of relatively safe upbringing … and tell me if you don’t see some stark stratification (not to call it segregation). What do you see?
How does it matter what you call it, or that we black and Latino folks call it by its name: racism
Also, I see some “white” folks there protesting too and I don’t think that they or black people there give an eff about how you would call it.
RCL
First, the source is this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/
Second, you seem to erroneously suggest that people commit crimes in equal numbers by race. So assuming that crime percentage should correlate to racial demography is woefully ignorant.
Third, “you are making it seem like the rest of those people are white…” No I’m not. That’s your own strawman bias creeping into my actual statement, which
said nothing about the race of the other 700 people. I merely highlighted that BLM is racially focused on only 25% of people killed by police.
“From those 742 individuals killed I would guess way more than half are Latino.”
Ah, but there you show you’re ignorant of the facts, but willing to argue them anyway while calling my point “b#llsh!t”…how academic
And your guess is completely wrong. White – 494, Black – 258, Hispanic – 172, Other – 38.
Now is a good time to insert the crux of my quote which you edited out in your citation: “How can anyone with any modicum of sense not see that [BLM] segregates its focus, outrage, and importance by race. How is that not a racist organization???”
Fourth, stats don’t say anything about racISM. Re: “Second, you seem to erroneously suggest that people commit crimes in equal numbers by race. So assuming that crime percentage should correlate to racial demography is woefully ignorant.”
Anyway, that’s irrelevant. The assertion is that BLM is an inherently racist organization because of their aforementioned racial segregation of focus, outrage, and importance.
Retweet:
“Inevitable for any country in an Endless War posture that the war mentality, tactics & weaponry will be imported home.” Glenn Greenwald
Five officers killed in Dallas last Thursday night during what had been an extremely peaceful protest. Killer took advantage of those officers’ lack of tactical gear. Given that incident, who in their right mind would not have worn as much protection as available under the circumstances. At the end of the day, cops are people who want to go home to their families.
At the end of the day, cops are people who want to go home to their families.
Badge bunny talking point #7.
That would be perfectly OK, of course, except that they don’t seem to give a damn whether any of the rest of us go home to our families.
Could not agree with you more, Doug. That has become the meme of the police supporters, i.e. “hey, at the end of the day they’re just everyday chaps like you and me, they just want to go home to their families”. Nope: this is an utterly dishonest whitewash and ‘badge bunny’ smarm talking point as you point out, no doubt.
You nailed it! Couldn’t have put it any better, kudos.
Jul 9, 2016 Dallas Sets New Police State Precedent: Using Robots to Kill Suspects
The Orwellian nightmare continues, and this time, even casual low-level Black Lives Matter members are saying this event was staged. When it comes to false flags, never forget to ask… “Cui Bono?” Who will benefit? And what is the ultimate gain?
https://youtu.be/gjH237mAxVs
Aug 28, 2014 Pentagon Has ‘Everything Must Go’ Sale
After protestors in Ferguson, Missouri, were met with a militarized police force, new attention was brought to the Pentagon’s 1033 program, a program that supplies military-grade equipment to local police departments, often for free.
http://youtu.be/HcvyHMyhpaA
police said “dozens of protesters were arrested after unacceptable ‘verbal confrontations’ between officers and demonstrators”.
Poor management of valuable resources.
Good will being one of the most valuable since it is so easily lost.
War always comes home.
Nothing new here. The old Soviet Union used to follow American problems closely. It’s what rival countries do. If you want to save on insurance, you….
…switch to Geico?
Dick.
I don’t know if he is a dick or not, but he is correct. Stay plugged into MSM where news in infotainment, the same thing as the obnoxious commercials. Be a good american and keep on consuming.
There is a huge disconnect between Baton Rouge police and the protestors. One might think that the police would try to be more conciliatory towards the demonstrators in light of the horrific execution murder of Alton Sterling by the Baton Rouge police–but no! A week later, they are fully militarized. The photos could be from Afghanistan or Iraq, there is no difference. It is all such a tragedy for the USA as it slides further and further into becoming a military police state.
I know many have said it before observing this grotesque spectacle of militarized police bullying protestors in countless cities, but the chickens have come home to roost: America will increasingly treat its own citizens just like it treats the public in occupied countries like Iraq and Afghanistan. The constant mass shootings, the police killing so many blacks, the militarization of police departments all across the country. It is all so tragic, America is really going down the drain :-(
This is what Obama said when nazi factions armed to the teeth in Ukraine were burning Kiev and Ukrainian cops:
Obama said in a statement that Ukraine should respect the right of protest.
“We hold the Ukrainian government primarily responsible in making sure it is dealing with peaceful protesters in an appropriate way,”
The double speak and hypocrisy of the US government as reached a new high.
The US is the new 4th Reich ! And it is gonna end up probably the same way as the 3rd one !
Interesting, in all of the pictures and the video I saw one black skin in uniform with a rookie ball cap. I did see a whole bunch of other offices pushing and shoving each other try to get at the people on the porch. And the two arresting the lady in the open street with a whole bunch of goons be hind them. Don’t they look brave, staunch, proud and confident. Americas finest.
Well, well, Mr President, maybe you could take some time away from polishing your legacy and making nice comedy, and finally acknowledge you can’t have a country run by “authorities” whose job is to police the “civilians”.
The cancer spreads out of control this summer, and it will not be easily stopped. Modern communications technology only exposes what has already happened. Some 15 years of war have altered this country, and all perspective has been lost. Like economic opportunity, power and authority is being concentrated and abused. Rule of law transitions to rule by law.
Now is your time to take a firm stand against police & prosecutorial powers and domestic warfare, Mr. President. Now is your time for one more big speech that outlines a vision and a detailed program of self-supporting initiatives for a 21st America that can move ahead economically, socially, and politically as one diverse people. You need to tie it all up, soberly and specifically, without poetry, and be clear how the social and political compact is broken. It is all you should talk about, repeatedly, on late night television or in news conferences. Try it. You have nothing to lose.
Pardon me… someone looks very familiar. Where is the director? Isn’t that ROBOCOP? So this is the the next in the series where they clone a whole lot of them?
We must ask why are the police and the power structure so aggressive against it’s citizens? Perhaps it’s because they have a reason to. We are on the verge of discovering what’s really going on. The more we become empowered we will see the deception and endless corruption and seek it’s end. It’s blatantly obvious the system is very concerned.
We need to retrain our police. The first lesson should be what the term “Law enforcement” means. Executing people without due process against the laws and Constitution of our country is not enforcing the laws but it is implementing a state of anarchy by fascist armed tugs. The Second lesson should be on the Amendments to the Constitution. End the 1033 program and the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) training and disengage the police from the Courts to end their role as revenue collectors, as the police should be a under the Executive branch and not the judiciary.
Absolutely!
Totally agree, but first we will have to “retrain” the politicians and elements of the media that have given rise to this mentality of confrontation. The attacks on America’s street citizens differs little from America’s world hegemony.
I think that they are one in the same.
This is just a microcosm of what our government has become: Shoot first, ask questions later.
This violence prone ideology, neocon born, has moved from violent regime changes and outright armed invasions to our soil with the same aim to crack down on downtrodden minority communities and any persons or organizations daring to oppose that brutality.
Our poor and minority communities now face the same strife and violence our government is inflicting on people and nations around the world, specifically the ME.
This is a structural and systemic crisis that is at the heart of our pseudo-democracy that now is rearing its ugly head for all to and fear!
You nailed it!
I can’t stand cops,and these clowns personify why I hate them,but the black communities are already filled with violence,and most of it isn’t cop related,its black on black.
Of course their are myriad issues which have caused this,not least zio neocapitalism,but until they stop shooting and robbing each other,there will be cops doing what they do.
In fact,the guy in Minn had a gun permit to protect himself,not from police,but from his fellow citizens.
Until all sides face truth,there will be no progress.
Decriminalizing drug use will put an end to most of this btw.
Another fact is that some of these corrupt and violent cops are minorities themselves.
Is it black white,or the culture of fascism which is the cops mantra?
The US Domestic Occupation Army in action. It is high time to disarm the US, it’s citizens and it’s police. That won’t happen, of course. Which is why more Americans will buy guns, and the police gets ever more militarized. A vicious circle, spiraling onward. Until police is no longer distinguishable from the army. Enter the general who becomes president. Hail Cesar! Not the movie, but the reality coming to you soon.
How exactly do you think that disarmament is logical (notice that I didn’t say ‘practical’ as you seem to have already addressed that)?? Not that I don’t believe that people should **choose** to do it, I just wonder how you think that makes sense.
As a nation we have to wonder if our education system needs an overhaul. We just are not able to inculcate the right values to our young people during their formative years. The Muslim clerics are stepping in and filling the void, which is very unfortunate.
In this forum also I see one or two people crap-flooding in areas they have very little knowledge about, but nevertheless deem it their duty to voice something, like for instance the politics in Brazil. On the whole our defective and insufficient education system is to blame, because of which China and India are taking away all our jobs, and we end up killing each other.
You think that, if we had a better education system, the capitalists who run the economy would keep the jobs here and pay good wages, instead of moving them to places with dirt-cheap labor costs?
I guess anything’s possible . . .
Muslim clerics?Other than Louis Farrakhan,I couldn’t name one.
Why is Islam filling a vacuum of non believing Christian and Jewish irreligious hypocrites bad?Maybe they’ll find values eschewed by the hypocrites.
And the jobs India and china take from US,are all given to them by neocapitalist zionist traitors and their whores in govt,like Obomba,the rethugs and the demoncrat scum.
Trump for POTUS.
>“The bottom line is, this group was certainly not about a peaceful protest, because they could’ve easily left on their own,”
So peaceful protest = No protest
Everything else gets riot police.
What is telling about these new displays of naked aggression in these murders and the reactions to the demonstrations is how hollow are the many promises made after the earlier uprisings in Ferguson and elsewhere.
Federal oversight, training ,community involvement and of course voting were the nostrums offered to calm the masses while the slave patrols got the real message, up-armor and get ready to rumble while maintaining their free fire zones.
BTW DeRay McKesson does not represent BLM, he is a democrat party stooge and opportunist. Whether they are or are not, BLM is being targeted as leading these peaceful revolts and the attacks on them seem to be coming not just from the right but also the extreme center and once targeted we have already seen what awaits any successful Black Power movement.
Please do tell what constitutes ‘extreme center.’
How can the center be extreme?
The alleged center today,rethugs and demoncrats,are all radical warmongers for Zion,totally for American destruction and traitors.
They are the center of an insane asylum.
Now, in Atlanta:
https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/751606852060745728
That is just utterly insane.
It’s good, though, for Americans and the world to see how our authorities react to any perceived threat from the public. Watch that video snippet, folks.
Oh come on now Doug. When else are they going to get to use all this fancy equipment that the government spent billions of dollars on. Let them play with their toys.
Joking aside, I have to say that the Baton Rouge police were in a getup I’ve never seen in my life. You’d think they were getting ready to fight barbarians.
That, AIT, is one of the questions that worries me most. ;^(
I thought the Baton Rouge cops looked like barbarians getting ready to fight nurses — barbarians with really bad battle-dress fashion sense.
Only $190K to $300K per copy. Of course, we paid for them, but DoD and Homeland Security gave them to Our Nation’s Finest*, to help them protect and serve us.
*After the missions were accomplished in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course.
War has been declared on Law Enforcement, they should dress in attire that can help and save them from those who wish to harm them.
“The bottom line is, this group was certainly not about a peaceful protest, because they could’ve easily left on their own,” Edmonson said.
“Dah”, Edmonson a protest is not about leaving it is about that The United States Constitution explicitly provides for ‘the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances’ as in the First Amendment.
Edmonson, believe it or not cops unnecessarily killing black men is a legitimate grievance if there ever was one.
The pictures being shown here make the police look like the epitome of a bully. I hope the mother of one of those cops supplied with all that weaponry and armor that arrested that lovely nurse tells him she is ashamed of him, and that he looked ridiculous.
The blatant militarizing of police very well may both enflame the life-force and tactics of the rebellion. David verse Goliath did not work out so well for Goliath.
Hopefully both the police and the protesters across our nation will come to the understanding that neither the police nor the protesters are part of the .0001% that the rebellion should be taken to in the first place, as they are the source of the oppression, poverty and suffering.
A sidebar on an earlier dissenter. Things aren’t going well with Chelsea Manning.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/11/chelsea-manning-confirms-suicide-attempt-hospitalized
No, not well, but is sounds as if she is recovering and (if I’m reading between the lines of the Attorneys’ statement correctly) that she wants to recover.
Much better situation than the alternative.
She posted following tweet just recently:
I am okay. I’m glad to be alive. Thank you all for your love <3 I will get through this.
https://twitter.com/xychelsea/status/752676465443942401
Will Pvt Manning be held to the Clinton Standard?
I am filled with admiration at that photo of the two police officers, protected by nothing more than body armor, arresting Iesha Evans. But there is a point at which courage crosses the line and becomes recklessness. She is a trained nurse, who has spent years studying the vulnerabilities of human biology. If she were to unleash that knowledge, the backup police officers massed in the background probably wouldn’t be able to react quickly enough to save their colleagues.
Drones are the answer. It is better to risk an expensive piece of equipment, even one costing millions of dollars, than to endanger the lives of police officers. A drone can be operated from the comfort of a donut shop. This still poses a risk of adult onset diabetes caused by over-consumption of sugar, but police officers must accept some degree of risk in the line of duty.
They already crossed that line by waiting a WHOLE 2 hours before blowing up the Dallas gunman. The only thing left is to reduce the cycle time for efficiency purposes.
Totally and utterly magnificent!!
Indeed, duce, and now we have the dystopia that Orwell and Ray Bradbury could only predict. Fully-automated drones, ground robots and face-recog CCTV are all a part of our world now.
We’ll be back after this word for the Soylent Corporation.
I choose morphine over procaine any day.
I need a sedagive.
America’s Black Holocaust Continues.
Nah, that’s not extreme hyperbole…
What irony!!!! That such a photo emerges after almost 8 years of a phony “black” POTUS.
Neither ironic nor surprising. This President is the most disengaged in living memory, apparently concerned with little except doing favors for his supporters on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley, expecting nothing in return save acceptance. Watch how they drop him like a hot potato once he has left office and is thus of no further use. Then perhaps he will find his roots, and realize how many great opportunities he squandered.
But of course the current situation is not entirely his fault. His blame is not for the racism and inequality in this country, but rather for making the situation worse instead of better.
Yeah,the uniter turns out to be a divider,like the dreamboat who turns footnote.
He can shove his neocapitalist zioworldview up his ass where the sun doesn’t shine,despite WH and MSM proclamations to the contrary.
I think he’d rather be a major sport commissioner,its more interesting to his tastes.
Think about BB and the salaries.The only way for black and other minorities to hit the big time is either sport lotteries or gambling ones.
Its obscene,the disparity of wealth distribution.
Just now listing to a news program on NPR or some such I heard a statement by the DA in Baton Rouge concerning the arrests yesterday of some 50+ protesters. He said that of the 50 or so, some 35 were from outside the area, and referred to them as “Outside Agitators.” That struck a deep chord in me because, some 50 years ago, in the early ’60s, when I was a student at LSU (in Baton Rouge) the marches and protests of the civil rights movement were characterized by that man’s distant predecessor using exactly the same term. So we see how little things have changed in the deep south.
Another East Baton Rouge Parish DA story. A member of my family was arrested during the late ’60s for distribution. That he was guilty I have no doubt, having been allowed to help myself to grass he kept in cookie jars and flour jars and sugar jars in his kitchen. Another relative, an attorney, consulted with one of his LSU classmates, a prominent Baton Rouge attorney, and suggested to the father of the accused that he should make a contribution to the campaign of a certain individual who was running for EBR DA. That he did, and when the votes were tallied, our candidate won. Shortly thereafter, all charges were dropped. Such was the way in the south when you are white and can afford to pay to play. I have little doubt that things have not changed in that regard either.
Does plus-sized riot gear cost extra? Or does the volume discount offset the additional cost? Seriously, I think “militarization” would be a lot less popular among police if it required them to show up for PT every morning at 5:30 AM.
I just had the opportunity to visit the Facebook page of Ieshia Babbybadman Evans (AKA Queen Ieshia; The Queen in The Sun Dress) and I am now convinced her Tiananmen square pose is merely a reflection of her obvious narcissism. She even goes so far as to advice “all of my friends and acquaintances please don’t do any interviews about me. If they want my story, I am here. I would like the opportunity to represent myself! Thank you. Peace, love, blk power! ?#?blacklivesmatter?. ” Never have I seen a Facebook page so full of photo updates of ones self. Hell, she even has a picture of herself taking a selfie! I cannot believe that any credible news organization could not see through such naked acts of self promotion. I cannot wait to hear her speak…
“I did it because I am black.” Wow, very deep and enlightening. Obviously she speaks for every person of color.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tajuENKgns
“a reflection of her obvious narcissism”
And I’m convinced your faith in State’s Rights and the 10th amendment is a reflection of your obvious racism. Good Catch!
Of course you do. Anyone who takes exception to the afrocentric, racial separatist, misandrist, anti-hetero, anti white-privileged hate speech and brand enhancing antics of BlackLivesMatter must be racist (that simply goes without saying);)
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/17/721441/-
No, not everyone. Just those like this. I’m fairly certain you fit into this category.
If you have something to say, then just say it. Your links mean nothing to me.
Tim Berners-Lee will be heartbroken. This might help:
The Internet for Dummies
To Karl and a little bit to Galactus-36215
Karl, I have read much of what you post and therefore know you are far from a racist and I absolutely respect that you did research regarding the young lady. Good work!
I choose under these circumstances to give her the benefit of the doubt and feel that is fair in that we have not jailed our nation’s corrupt judges and politicians about 98% of which (maybe a little hyperbole here) are part of what is becoming one of the most corrupt political systems in history.
So even if her motives may not be 100% snow white she still has accomplished more than any of us bloggers have sitting comfortable on our couches in air conditioning, as she really did make those cops look absolutely ridiculous.
I always enjoy you posts.
There is a very deliberate effort by BlackLivesMatters to divide Americans along racial, class, and gender lines. One only needs to read or hear the views of Alicia Garcia to understand that this is a well funded, top-down political movement that harbors utter contempt for all American institutions. I have watched several videos of Ms. Garcia wrap her warped sensibilities in high sounding language that is only intended to confuse and conflate historical fact in a way that undermines the very benchmarks by which the moral integrity of her actions can be objectively weighed in context to those of the Black Liberation Movement. I would be willing to bet that, if you quizzed the average black who identifies with the BlackLivesMatters movement, you would find that precious few truly understand its philosophical underpinnings or, for that matter, American history and law. What we are witnessing is a fundamentally dishonest exploitation of America’s black culture toward political and cultural ends that few of them truly understand.
Ieshia Babbybadman Evans describes herself as a vessel of a Christian god. Yet I see nothing on her website, or in her public comportment, that suggests that she is anything but an attention getting narcissist. I have been involved in social and political movements since the 1960s and I have seen countless attention seekers smear the blood of the truly committed upon their cloths (e.g. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton) as a pretext to seeking out the cameras. Even the photo of a protestor facing down a tank in Tienanmen square was staged – as was the 2002 dismantling of Saddam’s statue in Firdos Square – and the picture of American soldiers raising of an American flag at the battle of Iwo Jima. There is a very unhealthy relationship between the media, who has an interest in sensationalizing such stories, and those who would exploit that impulse to enhance their public image and advance their aims. BlackLivesMatter has consistently engaged in a deliberate strategy of garnering and exacerbating violent responses from their perceived enemy for the purpose of building their brand by casting themselves as victims. Such appeals are intended to incite a purely visceral response in those whose ignorance and bias makes them susceptible to manipulation and prone to violent confrontation. This formula is going to get a lot of innocents hurt or killed.
The main problem I have with BLM is they are attacking the wrong party,as it is the demoncrats who get their vote and do nothing for them.
It is incredible the disconnect from the reality of the modern democrat party which except for window dressing is the same as the rethugs.
To Karl and a little bit to Galactus-36215
Karl, I have read much of what you post and therefore know you are far from a racist and I absolutely respect that you did research regarding the young lady. Good work!
I choose under these circumstances to give her the benefit of the doubt and feel that is fair in that we have not jailed our nation’s corrupt judges and politicians about 98% of which (maybe a little hyperbole here) are part of what is becoming one of the most corrupt political systems in history.
So even if her motives may not be 100% snow white she still has accomplished more than any of us bloggers have sitting comfortable on our couches in air conditioning, as she really did make those cops look absolutely ridiculous.
I always enjoy you posts.
Hard to image what this cops could be afraid of… oh right, all the murders that have been encouraged by BLM and their allies in the media… silly me, I forgot.
I posted a comment well over an hour and a half ago which has yet to appear. It had a link to the youtube video that Mackey linked to which he titled “Edmonson said.” No reason that I know of for the comment to have been delayed this long. So, I’m not rewriting and re-posting it just now but, this is a test.
Check back at 11am PST tomorrow morning. I got $5 says it shows up then. ;)
There is a god…
I’m sure that there will be a big payday for her once she makes all the talk show rounds. Nice career move. Funny, out here in LA, the crowd dispersed once they realized the media went home at midnight. Perfect for LA: all show and no go. Its all about getting the good photo that can be used for propaganda purposes.
I’ll give you a thousand dollars if you go tell that to people on a busy street corner in Park-Windsor Hills.
Obviously, she managed to find a couple of volunteer soldiers to help her spread her propaganda, after she asked nicely for their assistance, of course. This clever woman will now have a respectable level of much needed street cred when she makes the talk show rounds.
A picture is worth a thousand words, a posed picture is worth millions, United States Marines raising a U.S. flag atop Mount Suribachi.
Look at those uniforms, if that’s what you can call them. They look like something out of a futuristic sci-fi movie. Pure intimidation of Americans exercising their constitutional rights. Reminds one of the images of the tank barrel aimed at the unarmed protesters in Ferguson. They’re going to make you do what they want you to do, whether what you are doing is peaceful and legal or not.
The point is that they are establishing who’s in control, and it’s not the people or even the Constitution anymore. It’s the military. We no longer have police forces in our great country. Cities–and small towns, too, with all the excess military equipment used in our world-wide invasions and given to local yokel forces when more weapons need to be sold–are being controlled by totally militarized robo-cop armies.
The lady looks supremely confident confronting those two clowns in battle-gear.
I think she is one of those few BLM folks who will vote for Donald Trump.
Thank god the cops are OK.
There are a lot of bad actors to go around; from Black hoodlums to White supremacists to politicians from mayors to POTUS but that picture, that picture; what kind of people are you? I have lived and worked and vacationed in America for half a century and I have been waiting on some progress on racism that has been plateaued for 40 years and it ain’t happening. I have been waiting for a better deal for the lower working class with health care for everyone as a human right and decent wages and opportunities. My last boss in the USA was shot twice; once when he was a Cop and once when he went back to see his friends in the hood. Blacks, Hispanics and Women had to sue my Union to get in. I’m still waiting but I’m starting to look for another place to spend my winters; not because I feel unsafe but because I just don’t like you much anymore. It won’t be Mexico which is worse than the USA. What is the matter with you and why are Black people supporting Hillary and why are you afraid of Socialism; any Scandinavian country is better than you. So many good Americans; such a rotten society.
MohamadAli had it right, get yourselves out of the slave owners xian churches. They take over 10% of your life and wealth to label a ‘wretch’. He was always avoided and silenced by the white press. Every taxpayer in america pay over $1,000 /year ro subsidize churches and non-profits. Agod who kills his child is aborrhent. Be truly free to be.
Yes, Ali was correct about a lot of things, “Birds of a feather want to flock together”.
Multiculturalism has failed! The Black Panthers are correct, they need their own state. I need my own state!
Nothing better epitomizes the struggle of people of color in this country against the forces of repression than the picture of the young woman being assailed by cowards in armor in the above article.
Cowards, I tell you! Not heroes, as they and their propagandists would have it. They half as likely to lose their lives on the job as garbage collectors, who in turn are much less likely to lose their lives on the job as farmers. There is a need for police, I do not dispute that, but in the US policing has become proactive, whether it is setting up speed traps to snare unwary motorists, stop and frisk to harass “suspicious looking” people on the street, or any of the myriad of other daily intrusions in our lives.
If you want to see what policing ought to be like in this country go to western Europe. There, the crime rates – and especially violent crime rates – are lower, and so is the level of police presence. For the vast majority of the citizenry, the police are viewed not as a threat, but as protectors. Here, the police do not police their own ranks, and so the ones who are really good cops are being put in harm’s way by the bad ones. It is time to break the blue code of silence.
I expect that the good cops get out. It would be a caustic atmosphere to spend your working life in. My son always wanted to be a cop, that is until he got old enough to see what was the reality. We lose good people to protect not just individual thugs in uniform, but also and to a much greater extent, a vast military style bureaucracy that is pretty much untouchable and self directed.
The kicker in this comment is that we are Canadian citizens living in Canada. The same crap but to a lesser degree is going on up here. It’s a bit misleading to characterize the root of the problem as being racial. It’s about powerlessness, …and it’s about military style training termed ‘use of force’. Admittedly, blacks and browns are extremely powerless in the face of authority in the U.S. and, as are whites, much of this is due to class, police involvement, poverty, profiling, access to legal representation, etc. That is why black and brown officers are often involved in these matters.
But if you think that this abusive military style policing model that has evolved since the war is about to be influenced by the public, you should reflect on the words, tone and demeanor of President Obama as he addressed the killings of the two black men at the hands of the police, one in Louisiana and one in Minnesota. shortly after they occurred. Then review his words, tone and demeanor two days later as he addressed the killings of five police officers in Dallas. The first was controlled and carefully worded, while conveying his deep displeasure. The second was seething outrage as he recounted the shooter’s moves, methods and villainy.
This sends a message that certainly will not be missed by those in management, or the rank and file, in law enforcement in the U.S. or in Canada. And subsequently, nothing will happen beyond a bit of window dressing perhaps.
“I expect that the good cops get out. ”
My neighbor just made the comment to me that his friend in the police force is getting out for that reason. It’s the new 20-somethings that want to kick ass rather than serve and protect.
The Israelification is on-going. Just wait until a BDS protest pops up.
Indeed it is about powerlessness. It’s disappointing but not surprising to watch Fox Five and see their reaction to this by blaming BHO and BLM; their comments were hypocritical by and large. Greg G. had the dumbest comment on this mess by saying folks have it too easy…
The U.S. system of justice is brutal and entrapping. You have to have power and money to navigate your way out should you be ensnared. Hypocrisy: The Five goes on and on about double standard, multiple justice systems when it’s HRC getting off.. but shoot and murder my black boyfriend in front of my child just because a cop doesn’t feel respected and the reaction is the justice system is fair wtf are you complaining about, you must be bored and have it too easy in America, BLM is racist-cop-hating movement. The NAACP and others likely have helped; but those have more work to do and perhaps the work they need to be doing is making moves to stand down the police in accordance w/ Yul Tel’s comment above.
Freedom and justice in America is lost for good unless people learn how to get informed, stay informed, use the ballot box, write letters certified to politicians, etc.. before starting armed revolution. Maybe it’s already too late though.
Calling Baton Rouge
BLM is a racist terrorist organization and after Dallas it is expected that the police are going to ramp it up.. These people should not protest. they have not looked at the numbers or the biology of the matter. It is estimated that of the 13 percent blacks in the population 50 percent of our murder and violent crime is committed by 3 percent of them the other ten percent are very much law abiding. But those kind of numbers require profiling. Those kind of numbers are going to generate a logical fear inside law enforcement officers. https://youtu.be/XRJE2gRtD1A
“Should not protest” — whether you agree with their cause or not, peaceful demonstration is a fundamental right necessary to a functioning democracy. And if the police have a “fear” of these protesters, what an stupid way of dealing with the situation: this show of violence will clearly provoke even greater protests, and quite possibly more violence against police. When you dress up as a black-fisted enemy soldier, you encourage people to see you as an enemy soldier and respond in kind. Wise people will stick with nonviolence, but some idiots will see this as an invitation to combat.
By the way: “racist”? “terrorist”? How ignorant can you get?
They have EVERY right to protest according to the constitution. That is what I served my country for 20 years so that EVERYONE had the right to equal protection under the constitution not to be assaulted by police that have more gear on than I ever had in a war zone. This is America, not Afgan and these are the people in their communities. We have become a fascist police state. I swore to protect this country and the people in it from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC. This is BS.
I’m too old and have read and heard this horseshit far too often to have patience for refuting it at this moment when authoritarian brutality is on the edge of either taking over the nation entirely or provoking a general uprising, so I’ll just say this:
You, Greg, are a vile, stupid, racist badge bunny.
As for “logical fear inside law enforcement officers,” well, poor Americans, brown people black people, and others have been “logically afraid” of the cops for a long time, now and . . . what goes around comes around.
If American police were afraid that they might not be able to get away with anything and everything, including outright murder, would that really be a bad thing?
I think that police brutality/militarization is ubiquitous and wrong; and I also think BLM is inherently racist (not terroristic). How can anyone with any modicum of sense not see that it segregates it focus, outrage, and importance by race. How is that not a racist organization??? In 2015, nearly 1,000 people were killed by police in the US. Of those dead 1,000 people, 258 were black. If I were gleaning my information from BLM and the media, I would have no idea that anyone (especially 3 times as many) else was being murdered by police. Can we discuss the veracity of my claim without descriptors ad hominem?
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that BLM gets Soros money,as divide and conquer is the zionist mantra.
And yes,the focus just on black lives is dumb,and divisive,so that probably confirms the first point.
Why they are not picketing the hell bitch for all her scumbag statements and her husbands crummy racist laws is mystifying,unless it is a fixed anti Trump movement.
I bet the alleged racist fascist has hired more black and minorities than any candidate in American history.
How do you feel about basic arithmetic, John? Is it racist too?
5x as many whites etc. in the US as blacks (1/5 black)
3x as many blacks are killed as whites (1/4 black)
So, roughly, 58 of those black corpses, or 20%, were “excess” deaths. On the white side, 75% of deaths came from about 80% of the population.
Can we now discuss arithmetic without resorting to insinuating that black people are racists because they notice that 20% more of them are being killed than should be?
Are all numerically literate people racist?
No, basic arithmetic is not racist…but neither is your comment reasonable.
You spit out raw numbers without investigating or appropriately representing any of the data to actually support your conclusion of ‘racism.’
“3x as many blacks are killed as whites” -by whom????? Your citation is meaningless in an argument to prove systemic racism until you account for who killed them and why.
‘So, roughly, 58 of those black corpses, or 20%, were “excess” deaths. ‘
58 out of what number, and from where did you glean these stats? Also, how are you defining “excess deaths”??? Is that your own made-up term?
I certainly didn’t insinuate that ‘black people are racists because they notice that 20% more of them are being killed than should be.’ That’s your own hyperbolic straw man.
I said that “***BLM*** is inherently racist [because] it segregates its focus, outrage, and importance by race.
“Are all numerically literate people racist?” No, but all those who would make specious claims based on faulty statistical inferences are certainly intellectually bankrupt.
Also, when you say “should be,” you’re inherently assuming that there’s a golden number of those who “should be” killed. How exactly do you come up with that number, and what’s your methodology for ascribing justification to ANY of these killings??
Here in Brazil there are people with similar views as you, greg.
They think the police is always right.
And that’s why we have, here in Brazil, Policemen executing young black people for such hideous crimes as:
Holding a bag of popcorn.
Holding a cellphone.
Holding a glass-case.
Wearing a hood.
And, more recently, police has come to justify their antics at executing black people by just planting a gun at their corpse and then arresting anyone who videotapes them doing it.
Just these two last months, twice have policemen killed 10-11 year olds black kids. One for stealing a car (and, according to the police, engaging in a prolonged firefight with the police from inside the car AND AFTER THE CAR crashed… with a 6-shooter…) and another for being in a stolen car (according to the police he was heavily armed. According all other witnesses they just shot him in the back of the head when unarmed.)
I’m an Atheist, but sometimes I wished there was some kind of special hell for people who abuse their authorities to kill and injure with impunity, and the same hell for people who defend such authority…
“You mean black racists who don’t know how to examine a statistic or look into biology. ”
hunnee i haev mi own porblumz beein unnerstood butt yew raizin teh ruuf an extendun teh gowl poosts wiht taht statemunt don u no.
Cannot and would not argue with that.
I’m confused. Are you using the New Math?
Jews in Germany complied with police in the belief that no harm would come to them if they did.
In ’36 or ’37, the Nazis made it law that everyone had to register their address with the police. Further when moving from that address the police had to be notified of the move and the new address. When arriving at the new address the police had to be informed immediately of your arrival and new address. This information was fundamental in rounding up the Jews, Gypsies, criminals, homosexuals, Poles, etc., for extermination as the system turned on the people.
Look at those thugs. They look perfectly the part of thugs. Their costume is the distilled essence of aggression and intimidation, and they’re acting just like thugs. Just one look at any of these images and you can see who the bad people are. Heavily armed predatorial thugs invading a peaceful community. Whoever planned this police action has just helped galvanize a nation of black rights activists.
You mean black racists who don’t know how to examine a statistic or look into biology. There is nothing wrong with a strong police force. BLM has been poking at our police hard for like 2 years now. It is not acceptable they are the force that enables peace within our borders. Police are necessary and perform a vital function.
“Police are necessary and perform a vital function” — yes. Which is why it’s so incredibly irresponsible for these police to erode public trust the way they are. By becoming the aggressors towards peaceful communities they’re supposed to serve, they are sabotaging their ability to perform that vital function.
And you should examine your generalisation that BLM are “racist terrorists”. Perhaps a few are racist, but all? Really? Are you perhaps trying to tar all BLM activists with a single brush? Not entirely accurately? Overbroad negative generalisations tend to be a strong indicator for bigotry. Are you racist yourself, by any chance?
Biology? Twice you have posted that. Biology according to who? Trofim Lysenko or Ernst Lehmann, no doubt. Or both.
I think many whites ignore the biology that humans of all races?creeds and color can interbreed and their progeny can interbreed,which means species commonality and sameness,other than cultural differences.
You used the word “biology” in two separate comments. Can you elucidate your choice of that word? I’m struggling to understand the gist of your argument.
Exactly the same thoughts I had. I know now why people in other countries will always fight the US. Just look at those invaders, dressed to kill.
As the US does to other countries, via the local cops they do the same thing in domestic operations.
Not only is the US invaders, but they work at intimidation and confrontation, forcing honest citizens to escalate their weaponry.
The nurse knows the way.
When I look at the images in this article, the Black Lives Matter movement and about the killing of the 5 police officers in Dallas, I see a fight for political power in the struggle for equality for Black Americans.
Equality is scale or timeline (phases) that occurs in the following way: 1st, Legal Equality, then Political Equality, then Economic Equality and finally Social Equality.
We passed the Legal Equality phase back the in 60’s with the end of the Jim Crow era and are now in the Political Equality phase where Black Americans struggle to have greater say politically in their communities and for their citizens.
When I see the images of the police now cracking down on Black Lives Matter protests, I see a political action that says, “We are denying your claim to have a voice in your community”.
This is why the power of the bully pulpit and peaceful protests are not producing change. Each protest is being met with more police power to deny the Black Live Matter movement any change.
Political Power is the ability to force your opponent to do what they would not normally do or agree to. And it may take more power than a simple protest march to force congress and the president to act that will results in changes to police department abuses.
A majority white electorate twice voted for a black man to hold the highest office in the land.
Stemming police department abuses on a national level would require the federal government to assume assume powers and impose mandates upon the states for purposes not enumerated by the Constitution. The 10th amendment reads, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” However, the militarization of police departments is being done under America’s first black president.
Be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.
Are you aware that it’s usually KKK members that often invoke States Rights argument.?This is a leftover from the civil war.
Are you also aware that federal laws supersede state laws, therefore Congress can simply pass a federal law and impose it on the states?
Do you believe in the tooth fairy too?
This is not true. A number of recent SCOTUS decisions upheld state’s rights in the face of federal creep.
States’ rights and the Rehnquist Court:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights#10th_Amendment_Resolutions
“The law that applies to situations where state and federal laws disagree is called the supremacy clause, which is part of article VI of the Constitution. The supremacy clause contains what’s known as the doctrine of pre-emption, which says that the federal government wins in the case of conflicting legislation. Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you’re in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you. When there is a conflict between a state law and federal law, it is the federal law that prevails. ”
huffingtonpost.com/lesley-daunt/state-vs-federal-law-who-_b_4676579.html
State laws can challenge Federal laws and can affect Federal Law, but it’s Federal Law first, State Law second. It’s called Supremacy clause in Article 6 of the Constitution.
Get Knowledge.
The Supremacy Clause assumes the underlying priority of federal authority when that authority is expressed in the Constitution itself. Again, read some of the cases that I previously linked to and you will see that the Supremacy Clause is not absolute. Rather it is subject to legal challenge and Judicial review.
I said, “Are you aware Federal Law supersedes State Law?”
You said, “This is not True.”
God, you’re thick. But I’ll say it again, “When there is a conflict between a state law and federal law, it is the federal law that prevails”
What you actually said is: “Are you also aware that federal laws supersede state laws, therefore Congress can simply pass a federal law and impose it on the states? But hey, why the need for accuracy when it can so readily impede ones ability to resort to insult at will?
Again, this statement is not always true!!! Federal Legislation has been successfully challenged by states in the SCOTUS. The supremacy clause which you so glibly cited is not absolute. Congress cannot simply pass a federal law and impose it on the states in exception to the limitations imposed by the US Constitution or existing federal law.
The larger question that you have so adroitly avoided is whether, or not, we want to encourage Federal legislation that allows for federal law enforcement in exception to the limitations currently imposed by the Posse Comitatus Act.
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/07/one-simple-change-to-the-law-could-make-prosecuting-killer-cops-easier/
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There are two fundamental problems in calling on the Federal Government to bring about the changes that will stop police department abuses.
First there is the issue of competence at the Federal level. We have seen a complete unwillingness to prosecute perpetrators of major crimes by the Justice Department, whether it be the soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan who have committed war crimes, leaders of the financial community whose illegal activities brought about the crash of 2008, and even the selective punishment of people who mishandled classified information. Given the level of corruption in Congress and the demonstrable lack of morality in the Executive branch, would you really want the Feds to be in charge of reforming the criminal justice system?
Second there is the issue of states’ rights. While I completely agree that part of the problem is the totally inadequate screening and largely inappropriate training of police in many jurisdictions, that could be remedied by the imposition of national standards, the first thing that would happen were the Federal government attempt to impose such standards would be a spate of law suits charging the Feds with overstepping their constitutional authority. Nowhere in the Constitution is the Federal Government given the right to enforce the law in peacetime.
If people really want change in our criminal justice system – and that is where it is needed, not just in certain police departments – then the place to effect that change is at the local level. Start with your own community, and work up to the state level. There is no magic bullet (sorry about that metaphor).
You’re right, bad choice of metaphors…but do appreciate your comments.
But my original comment didn’t specify where the struggle for Political Power needed to occur. I agree it must be done first at local level, starting with the Mayor’s office and local state legislatures.
I see where my second comment did mention Federal statute. My bad. But I still agree that local states should start first. Would be nice if Obama pressured local mayors to do something. A Federal law could create citizen review boards.
Spot-on!
Yeah,and the abject SC where members(Ginsburg) make political statements that belie their neutrality,the most important attribute of being a judge.
We are living in an age of mediocrity.
@24b4Jeff-“While I completely agree that part of the problem is the totally inadequate screening and largely inappropriate training of police in many jurisdictions,”
You are correct but it’s worse than that. The vetting process of people looking to work in their local police/law enforcement organization has a specific purpose and it doesn’t make sense. The process has been accepted and approved by BAR members/attorneys/judges to give those law enforcement personnel credibility in COURT. In other words those who are hired are elevated or are given an increased value of truth or their decisions are more reliable or more legitimate than civilians because of the vetting. Basically, our members of the Judicial branch and BAR members gave persons in law enforcement a pass to do things that are totally in conflict to the US Constitution. Members of the BAR occupy every level of government and every branch and it’s the members of the BAR who are the “legal consultants” used to review everything and advise. It doesn’t matter what the vetting process consists of because a foundational element of our country is that everyone is equal to each other, per the Declaration of Independence & US Constitution. It is this inequality that has created the current domestic instability and insecurity resulting in an unknown number of US citizens deaths. That is treason!
Getting the “legal clearance” to sell military equipment to local law enforcement organizations and not to civilians as well is treason. Civilians lacking the ability to adequately resist an armed force is no different than being under an occupying force, foreign or domestic. That is treason!
When will people understand how the BAR, whom has the regulatory authority over lawyers, has not only failed to discipline those who allowed unconstitutional acts and behavior while under their watch but supports unconstitutional acts and behavior with approving “law degree programs” for those looking to become a lawyer but can not unless they become a BAR member and to become a BAR member the law degree has to be approved and recognized by the BAR and by giving conferences, seminars, classes and the like for its members.
Whatever way you cut it up, the US federal state ever more looks, feels and acts like a proto-fascist state. There is nothing positive about those objective conditions.
Oh my God!!!
The MSM told me this is what Russia is like.
Yeah, those cops are ridiculous for wearing equipment that might have saved some of the Dallas police had they been wearing it.
Blocking a road is an excuse for a militarized police force? I knew the suburban dream was in fact a fascist nightmare but never realized it was this bad.
Yes it is. When truckers do it it is considered treason. Blacks do it and somehow they get a free pass?
“a free pass”- beaten and arrested? Nitwit…
I know in Memphis, BLM shut down I-40. They should have been arrested.
Why doesn’t BLM go shut down the liberal media? They are the ones causing the agitation with their 24/7 propaganda.
Yes. Too much liberality in the media. Too much freedom. The media should be more strictly controlled. No propaganda but that approved by the state. Pacify the population. Arrest all who do not comply with the state. Order. Order! Order must be obeyed at all times! Lock them up and let them rot. Better yet, send them to the gas chambers.
You forgot, “Release the Hounds!”
You describe the MSM, strictly controlled, by what appears to be Jewish owners? When ALL the MSM recite the exact same talking points, it becomes obvious that they are unified in producing scripted propaganda, aka Baghdad Bob.
Yeah, cuz blocking traffic while protesting extrajudicial killings is just unforgivable!
My God! some people might not have been able to travel along a particular stretch of highway — in their cars! — exactly when they wanted to. It’s un-American, I tell ya.
Isn’t that tantamount to arguing that ‘I can punch you because I’m mad at some other guy’???
The MSM are all reactionary Zionists.
Liberal implies love of liberty,which they hate,at least for US.
First they enact gun control and confiscate our weapons. Then the police arm themselves all the more heavily so they can shoot and kill at will. Anybody who objects is “mental” and entirely loses the right to possess firearms for life if the cops aren’t able to trump up some bullshit felony charge.
Apparently there is a corollary to Godwin’s law that invokes the 2nd Amendment. Should we call it the BumbleBee law? Nah, it would give real bumble bees a bad name.
“Marjorie Esman, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Louisiana, condemned the arrests as unlawful…”
Hahaha….silly ACLU. If the police do it’s it’s not illegal. Kind of like Nixon’s rule.
@KhaledBeydoun: “This isn’t Baghdad. It’s BatonRouge.”
This unfortunately contradicts one of the operating syllogisms of global politics today:
1. There is a ‘Global War on Terror’.
2. “Terrorism” is defined as anything that the global 1% dislikes.
Therefore, Baghdad == Baton Rouge == everywhere forever, until we stop the Everywhere and Forever War.
Hmm. . .
Tiananmen Square, Beijing, June 4, 1989
The pic of the man in front of a Chinese tank is the first thing it reminded me of when I saw this pic too…. Though I’m quite certain the American people won’t be sheep for long.
Fingers crossed.
You do realize that all the sheep are voting for the Hell Bitch and not Trump,the renegade black sheep?
The sheepherders hate him with a passion.
I think almost all who vote for either of them are sheep — just slightly different breeds.
“Wait! Wait! . . .”
One protester after another should slowly and calmly approach the police line exactly like Ieshia Evans. After one gets arrested the next should begin her walk. If there are a few thousand people willing to make that walk it might make an impression.
That tactic was depicted in an important scene of the film “Gandhi.” How get it into the hands of the leadership of Black Lives Matter? How make it an element of the curriculum at the police academy?
Your right, same idea except the BLM protesters probably won’t get beaten and the protest will be streamed live. I also think one at a time would be better, but who am I to question Gandhi (or Richard Attenborough)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1DHNoHxB_c#t=1m35s